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  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,278

    Trees are fantastic things, help against global warming by eating carbon plus in the correct places offer mitigation against floods.

    The only thing wrong with the policy is the lack of ambition 300 or 400 million a year would be better

    Plant indigenous trees and good for wildlife biodiversity too. It should be a no brainer. Fortunately we have a leader with no brains.
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 10,033
    Foxy said:

    Nah, they will vote Lib dem, and millions are, particularly in the former Tory heartlands of Remania. People who don't like Corbyn's wilder ideas have other safe options.
    The more it looks like a huge Tory win, the less likely it is to happen.
  • MysticroseMysticrose Posts: 4,688
    eristdoof said:

    You don't remember 1997 then.
    ? 1997 was entirely predictable and totally predicted.

    And it followed the disastrous 92-97 Major Gov't when he had a narrow majority and was held to ransom by the 'bastards' (his word) like John Redwood.
  • ? 1997 was entirely predictable and totally predicted.

    And it followed the disastrous 92-97 Major Gov't when he had a narrow majority and was held to ransom by the 'bastards' (his word) like John Redwood.
    The only mild shock in 1997 was the scale of the victory not the outcome.

    Still 2 results in play for 2019 - hung or Con maj.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,569

    Poor show from the Tories, Lib Dems PC & SNP:

    https://twitter.com/UKGenElect/status/1195593894710386688?s=20

    In the current climate, it is hard to imagine why anyone would want to be a candidate. Way more so for a woman.

    And then there's this:

    https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/john-mcdonnell/news/100398/esther-mcvey-claims-john-mcdonnell
  • m.

    The tories? They want to plant a lot of trees.

    Erm.

    That's it.
    Until the manifesto appears......
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,333
    This is Scotland (and the RN) actually getting shafted. The original plan was 13 x T26 built in Scotland. Now since the tory cuts it's 8 x T26 (although only three have been ordered and the chance of getting all 8 is 0%, see T45) and 5 x T31e. The T31e is a simpler and cheaper build that provides less quality and quantity of work for our woad daubed cousins. The MoD just kept deleting weapons and sensors from the T31e until they got it down to the sticker price of 250m/hull.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,133

    The more it looks like a huge Tory win, the less likely it is to happen.
    Or the precise opposite.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,569

    The only mild shock in 1997 was the scale of the victory not the outcome.

    Still 2 results in play for 2019 - hung or Con maj.
    Still reckon that when it comes to election day, "Get Brexit Done" will be the driver of votes. The idea of going into 2020 with the political system still unable to function will make many voters' skin crawl.
  • MysticroseMysticrose Posts: 4,688
    woody662 said:

    Living in the National Forest, it has helped contribute to the highest economic growth rates in the UK for the districts within it and some of the highest life satisfaction rates according to the ONS. The National Forest was conceived by a Conservative Government of course, would love to have a look at that academic paper.
    One of the things I dislike about election campaigns is the partisan politicisation of issues that transcend such things. I love your post, apart from the attribution of the Conservative Party to the National Forest. Maybe they did, under John Major's regime - someone who loathes everything Boris Johnson stands for (if he stands for anything).

    But the National Forest builds on a long heritage stretching back at least to the Forestry Commission. That was begun in 1919 under a LIBERAL Government, in which Francis Acland, MP, played a prominent part.

    https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/killerton/features/back-to-our-roots

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Dyke_Acland

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forestry_Commission#History

    The Countryside Act of 1968 is also an important marker in this development, established under a LABOUR Government.

    Just redressing things ;)

  • MysticroseMysticrose Posts: 4,688

    Still reckon that when it comes to election day, "Get Brexit Done" will be the driver of votes. The idea of going into 2020 with the political system still unable to function will make many voters' skin crawl.
    It won't. No one cares about Brexit any more and it's a stupid slogan, as Deborah Meaden pointed out yesterday.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,569

    Trees are fantastic things, help against global warming by eating carbon plus in the correct places offer mitigation against floods.

    The only thing wrong with the policy is the lack of ambition 300 or 400 million a year would be better

    Billions are the only units of pledges in this election.

    Or trillions.
  • One of the things I dislike about election campaigns is the partisan politicisation of issues that transcend such things. I love your post, apart from the attribution of the Conservative Party to the National Forest. Maybe they did, under John Major's regime - someone who loathes everything Boris Johnson stands for (if he stands for anything).

    But the National Forest builds on a long heritage stretching back at least to the Forestry Commission. That was begun in 1919 under a LIBERAL Government, in which Francis Acland, MP, played a prominent part.

    https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/killerton/features/back-to-our-roots

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Dyke_Acland

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forestry_Commission#History

    The Countryside Act of 1968 is also an important marker in this development, established under a LABOUR Government.

    Just redressing things ;)

    It's election time. If a dog farts, someone will see the party political angle to it.
  • It won't. No one cares about Brexit any more and it's a stupid slogan, as Deborah Meaden pointed out yesterday.
    Seems to be very effective in the polls. And effective in getting the Brexit party to stand aside in most seats.
  • In the current climate, it is hard to imagine why anyone would want to be a candidate.
    Labour at least has made progress vs 2017 (in percentage terms, if not quality in some cases) adding 13% points to their number of female candidates. Con, LibD & SNP are all flat and Plaid is down slightly. The biggest increase ironically is UKIP, but then twice Fanny Adams is still Fanny Adams.....
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,333

    It won't. No one cares about Brexit any more and it's a stupid slogan, as Deborah Meaden pointed out yesterday.
    We were assured that Farage's puce faced legions under their #12b6cf coloured banner would march him into Rue de Downing if the 31st October deadline was missed. As it turned out nobody gave a fuck. That's why Boris, if he bothers passing his deal, will almost certainly extended the transition (heavy) period.
  • No one cares about Brexit any more
    That's odd.

    68% rank it as one of their top 3 issues.

    More than any other issue.

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/11/07/which-issues-will-decide-general-election
  • Billions are the only units of pledges in this election.

    Or trillions.
    Pfft, these terms are for pencil necked experts, gazillions is where it's at.
  • Foxy said:

    Looks fortunate no fatalities in the Bolton fire last night, but there are questions to be asked about fire safety.

    https://twitter.com/jabberwock951/status/1195492380666998784?s=19

    Heartening that those students were all budding Rees-Moggs.
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 10,033
    IanB2 said:

    Or the precise opposite.
    2017
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,133

    2017
    When Labour had the Big Mo. So far they haven’t achieved even Little Mo.
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