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It will be interesting to see the effect (if any) on the polls. A couple of debates and a virtual party political broadcast for Ukip earlier in the week. A couple of percent for them maybe but will it mean anything in 2015?0
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Titter.maaarsh said:
It's not simply wrong. British people are people in the EU with the right to move to Britain. They are already in Britain which limits the likelyhood of them to re-exercise that right, but it's you're going to make pathetic nitpicky complaints then you should stick to the semantics rather more closely.
That would make the true number ~510 million ;-)0 -
Seems a bit of a faff to reconnect the printer to the desktop. Plugged it in, but it won't work without downloading a driver (the automatic attempts to do so have failed). It's just a bloody printer, why should it need a download?
I saw little bits of the debate, during the ad breaks when Futurama was on. Hard to tell from snippets, but Clegg didn't look great.0 -
Kellner on Sky with some poll breakdown info.0
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33% of Lib Dems backing Farage. Remind me of that win win argument? Clegg just turned off a third of his tiny vote for the EU elections.0
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Peter Kellner: Both Lab and Lib Dem voters have shifted to Farage since last week.0
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Dinnae tell Fitta lass.RobD said:
Tory seats doubling? PB surger!!Stuart_Dickson said:Just had a look at that Populus monthly summary. Very frightening findings for Lamont's hopeless Slabbers and Rennie's hopeless Con-merchants.
Westminster voting intention - Scotland
SNP 34% (+14)
Lab 34% (-8)
Con 18% (+1)
LD 7% (-12)
UKIP 3% (+2)
Grn 2% (+1)
Baxter:
Lab 35 seats (-6 seats)
SNP 20 seats (+14 seats)
Con 2 seats (+1 seat)
LD 2 seats (-9 seats)
http://www.populus.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/140401-Populus_FT-March-2014.pdf
http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/cgi-bin/usercode.pl?CON=18&LAB=34&LIB=7&NAT=34®ion=AllScotland&boundary=2010&seat=All+Scotland+seats+majority-sorted
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68% ! Looks like Shadsy is paying up.0
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I was surprised he tried peddling that 7% line again. I thought after getting exposed on Daily Politics they would have come up with something else.MikeK said:Actually I think Cleggo was better this week than last. But a definite win for Farage despite the Putin tangle.
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According to the Sky News front-page:
http://news.sky.com/
Al-Beeb had "Dutchie" Clegg backdropped betwixt a Dutch and Russian flag embracing the EU States wannae-be flag. Fair-and-balanced as a topsy-turvy that has too much topsy and an underweight turvy. And us Netherlands' tax-payers have to pay for this bull...?0 -
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Well, was winner, not votes! 1 in 3 from 1 in 5.old_labour said:Peter Kellner: Both Lab and Lib Dem votes have shifted to Farage since last week.
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Clegg talking about Orpington was a mistake. Most people won't know what he was on about.0
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How will the Tories react to all this? I know, I know 'PM's got better things to do/debate between minor politicians/etc etc' but the Tory backbenchers are full of whiny children when it comes to Europe, and a beaming Farage is...well I was going to say it's the last thing they want to see, but actually it's the thing they want to see the most, either out of latent UKIPism or in the hope it forces Cameron and co to tack right (it'll win them the election you see, somehow) and it's been a few weeks since a good Tory rebellion story at least.0
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Farage did much better than expected. I am more hopeful on my EC bet! Interesting that there is a clear disconnect between the chatterati judging Clegg as performing well and then the great thud of the Yougov poll.0
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Leaving aside that that would give you a different number again.maaarsh said:
It's not simply wrong. British people are people in the EU with the right to move to Britain. They are already in Britain which limits the likelyhood of them to re-exercise that right, but it's you're going to make pathetic nitpicky complaints then you should stick to the semantics rather more closely.corporeal said:maaarsh said:
I'll save you a google. There is no remotely important sense in which 445 and 485 are different in this context - it does not change anything, it is not material.corporeal said:
Well since we were talking about misleading statistics one that was just simply untrue seemed worth a comment.maaarsh said:
I'll save you a google. There is no remotely important sense in which 445 and 485 are different in this context - it does not change anything, it is not material.corporeal said:
Sticking to the semantics, if you are already somewhere can you 'move' there?0 -
Oh, and I heard Clegg's "Put-in" joke. Bloody awful.0
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Kay's trying to get a racism angle going here, but racism does not poll anywhere near that well.0
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There'll be more than a few beers and maybe a few whiskeys, downed tonight as UKIP celebrate another win by Nigel Farage.
Wouldn't surprise me to find another thousand have joined UKIP by weeks end.0 -
Clegg must go.0
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It's not about whether they can, it's about whether they have the right to - look at reproduction rights to see the difference. I am entitled to give birth to my first born in an NHS bed. There's something between my legs guaranteeing I never will.corporeal said:
Leaving aside that that would give you a different number again.maaarsh said:
It's not simply wrong. British people are people in the EU with the right to move to Britain. They are already in Britain which limits the likelyhood of them to re-exercise that right, but it's you're going to make pathetic nitpicky complaints then you should stick to the semantics rather more closely.corporeal said:maaarsh said:
I'll save you a google. There is no remotely important sense in which 445 and 485 are different in this context - it does not change anything, it is not material.corporeal said:
Well since we were talking about misleading statistics one that was just simply untrue seemed worth a comment.maaarsh said:
I'll save you a google. There is no remotely important sense in which 445 and 485 are different in this context - it does not change anything, it is not material.corporeal said:
Sticking to the semantics, if you are already somewhere can you 'move' there?0 -
It's nothing to do with a housing bubble. It's to do with the way members of *both* of my in-law's families have had members move away because they cannot afford to buy houses in their areas.david_herdson said:
You already pay full council tax on a second home, plus capital gains if it's made enough. At the moment, we're having to pay full rates on my financee's house, which we've been trying to sell for the last 7 months. In that time we've had five viewings for a property that's in reasonable condition, in a lovely location and a friendly, neighbourly area. It's on the market for £75k so hardly top-end. Count me unimpressed by talk of housing bubbles.JosiasJessop said:
"Ghost towns"Charles said:
That's why it is so difficult to judge when it will deflate. Ghost towns like my area are much more likely.taffys said:I nearly bought one 10 years ago for £565,000...
This isn;t a classic ballooon, in that many of the inflators of it are unleveraged wealthy foreigners looking for a bolthole. Increases in interest rates might not necessarily affect them.
Just go to any scenic area of the country out of season (e.g. the Cornish coast, Derbyshire Peaks) and you will find ghost 'towns'. The rich buy holiday homes but can't face using them in winter.
It's terrible for the young local populations who cannot afford to compete.
F' the mansion tax. Tax - heavily - second homes and rented holiday homes. They do no social good and kill communities.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-27787896.html
This is a social injustice. It's not as if the incomers are doing up a house prior to a move, or wanting to sell. They are kept as holiday homes and rented out, giving them the best of both worlds. The council tax can be paid for by one week's stay by a paying family. In the meantime, the community - the shops, petrol stations, pubs - close.
It's worse in areas like Walberswick, which is within commuting distance of London. That might as well be known as luvvie-on-sea.0 -
UKIP membership to overtake LDs soon?0
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There will be some Lib Dem voters who faintly dislike europe and were not aware they were voting for the main cheer leaders. Farron summed it up - if you like the EU vote lib dem, if you don't vote UKIP.corporeal said:
I thought Farage won and am not turned off.maaarsh said:33% of Lib Dems backing Farage. Remind me of that win win argument? Clegg just turned off a third of his tiny vote for the EU elections.
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Wow!
Farage smashed Clegg out of the park.. proud to be a UKIP member tonight, he was absolutely different class
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Utterly pathetic.Jonathan said:Farage trotted out the classic nationalist playbook. Oversimpified populism, laced with nostalgia and military imagery.
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Was this like the 2 horse race I watched today where the 1/33 favourite romped home on the bit by 11 lengths ?0
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