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    9 from 3!
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,839
    AndyJS said:

    I'd say 60/40 New Zealand.

    Betfair says 80/20
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Thought I'd seen everything in cricket until that.
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    3 from 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,839
    Ooh, controversial!
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    solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,623
    I've never seen anything like it...
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 41,811

    malcolmg said:

    Sandpit said:

    .

    RRR 8.63 pah can't see it happening

    Buttler out, but Betfair still reckons there’s a 60% chance of making the runs. 46 from 31, 5 in hand.
    Quoted a summary of this to Ms Brisk and she reckons it may be down to "patriotic bets" - but we're both fairly clueless on cricket.
    Going by your posts you could expand that hugely.
    You been watching the cricket too Malky? Who you supporting?
    cricket is for girlies, if forced to choose I would go for the underdogs , oops that would mean England, scrub that I would go for the small country.
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    RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 27,175
    AndyJS said:

    Thought I'd seen everything in cricket until that.

    I still don't understand it
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    If it had stopped just short of the boundary England wouldn't have taken any extra runs.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,200
    Tennis 12-12 - tie-break (equivalent of the penalty shoot-out!)
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,919
    So who won the cricket?
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    unlucky England
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,919
    If it's a single off the last ball, who wins?
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,839
    edited July 2019
    Sandpit said:

    10-10 in the tennis!

    Could we end up with a tie-break and a super over - happening at the same time?
    YES!

    Yes, we are! Quite astonishing.
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    rcs1000 said:

    If it's a single off the last ball, who wins?

    Match tied!!!!!!!!
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Did anyone bet on a tied match after 50 overs?
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,937
    Into superover in cricket and well into 5th set in tennis
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,606
    What were the odds on a tie?!
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    MaxPB said:

    What were the odds on a tie?!

    They're usually about 500/1.
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    GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,077
    What a bit of sport this is!
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    RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 27,175
    Sensational cricket. I wish I had been able to have a few jars whilst watching
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,200
    Is SuperOver a member of the Avengers or the Justice League?
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961
    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    10-10 in the tennis!

    Could we end up with a tie-break and a super over - happening at the same time?
    YES!

    Yes, we are! Quite astonishing.
    For the non-cricket experts, what is the difference between the two?
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,839
    Betfair’s £100m market voided on the tie. :o
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,200
    Djokovic wins! 13-12 in the final set.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,937
    Djokovic champion again
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 41,811
    RobD said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    10-10 in the tennis!

    Could we end up with a tie-break and a super over - happening at the same time?
    YES!

    Yes, we are! Quite astonishing.
    For the non-cricket experts, what is the difference between the two?
    Why did New zealand not win given they were 241 - 8 and England 241- all out, sounds like dodgy stuff
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961
    Sandpit said:

    Betfair’s £100m market voided on the tie. :o

    Wow!
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    Djokovic Wimbledon Champion

    This super-over malarkey sounds complicated
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,336
    malcolmg said:

    RobD said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    10-10 in the tennis!

    Could we end up with a tie-break and a super over - happening at the same time?
    YES!

    Yes, we are! Quite astonishing.
    For the non-cricket experts, what is the difference between the two?
    Why did New zealand not win given they were 241 - 8 and England 241- all out, sounds like dodgy stuff
    Hardly; those are the rules.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,919
    What happens if the Super Over is a tie?
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,793
    malcolmg said:

    Don't tell me it is not coming home despite all the promises
    Be shameful getting beaten by a tiny country who play rugby.

    Evening Malc. :)

    You supporting England? :D
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    malcolmg said:

    RobD said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    10-10 in the tennis!

    Could we end up with a tie-break and a super over - happening at the same time?
    YES!

    Yes, we are! Quite astonishing.
    For the non-cricket experts, what is the difference between the two?
    Why did New zealand not win given they were 241 - 8 and England 241- all out, sounds like dodgy stuff
    Because both teams made 241 off their 50 overs and those are the rules - no bonuses for wickets in hand.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961
    rcs1000 said:

    What happens if the Super Over is a tie?

    Hyper Over.
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,287
    England to lose on penalties.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 41,811
    Nigelb said:

    malcolmg said:

    RobD said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    10-10 in the tennis!

    Could we end up with a tie-break and a super over - happening at the same time?
    YES!

    Yes, we are! Quite astonishing.
    For the non-cricket experts, what is the difference between the two?
    Why did New zealand not win given they were 241 - 8 and England 241- all out, sounds like dodgy stuff
    Hardly; those are the rules.
    Odd rules
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    RobD said:

    Sandpit said:

    Betfair’s £100m market voided on the tie. :o

    Wow!
    nope - I bet on SL SA and it went to a super over and it went by that so Sandpit is just pulling our legs
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    glwglw Posts: 9,549
    rcs1000 said:

    What happens if the Super Over is a tie?

    Number of boundaries, but I only know that because they said it on the radio a few minutes ago.
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    nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502
    edited July 2019
    Gutting for Federer .

    I doubt he’ll get another chance , really sad .
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited July 2019
    rcs1000 said:

    What happens if the Super Over is a tie?

    The team with the most boundaries (4s and 6s) in both the 50 overs and the super over combined wins.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 41,811

    malcolmg said:

    RobD said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    10-10 in the tennis!

    Could we end up with a tie-break and a super over - happening at the same time?
    YES!

    Yes, we are! Quite astonishing.
    For the non-cricket experts, what is the difference between the two?
    Why did New zealand not win given they were 241 - 8 and England 241- all out, sounds like dodgy stuff
    Because both teams made 241 off their 50 overs and those are the rules - no bonuses for wickets in hand.
    cheers, surprised they do not do it like football on Goal difference, should be on wickets.
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 41,811
    GIN1138 said:

    malcolmg said:

    Don't tell me it is not coming home despite all the promises
    Be shameful getting beaten by a tiny country who play rugby.

    Evening Malc. :)

    You supporting England? :D
    As ever GIN , I am behind them all the way , just charging my cattle prod.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,336
    malcolmg said:

    Nigelb said:

    malcolmg said:

    RobD said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    10-10 in the tennis!

    Could we end up with a tie-break and a super over - happening at the same time?
    YES!

    Yes, we are! Quite astonishing.
    For the non-cricket experts, what is the difference between the two?
    Why did New zealand not win given they were 241 - 8 and England 241- all out, sounds like dodgy stuff
    Hardly; those are the rules.
    Odd rules
    If you think about it, England has tied the game before they lost their last wicket, and it’s the number of runs scored that counts.

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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    I reckon 15 is about par for a super over.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,336
    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    What happens if the Super Over is a tie?

    The team with the most boundaries (4s and 6s) in both the 50 overs and the super over combined wins.
    Which would be England.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Anyone know what the current state of boundaries is for both teams?
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,839
    15 the target.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,336
    A decent score, but entirely in the lap of the gods now.

    Bowling an over cold is not an easy task.
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 53,919
    Anyone know how I can watch this from the US?
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,839
    AndyJS said:

    Anyone know what the current state of boundaries is for both teams?

    England ahead, according to commentary.
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    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    RobD said:

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    10-10 in the tennis!

    Could we end up with a tie-break and a super over - happening at the same time?
    YES!

    Yes, we are! Quite astonishing.
    For the non-cricket experts, what is the difference between the two?
    Why did New zealand not win given they were 241 - 8 and England 241- all out, sounds like dodgy stuff
    Because both teams made 241 off their 50 overs and those are the rules - no bonuses for wickets in hand.
    cheers, surprised they do not do it like football on Goal difference, should be on wickets.
    In football, you kind of have to do it on that basis as you'd otherwise need to organise a whole new match. Goal difference is kind of a necessary evil - there is no great fairness in determining it based on who beat the whipping boys of the league 4-0 rather than 6-0 a few months ago, but it does the job.

    In cricket, the teams are right there, so why not do a super over?
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Sandpit said:

    AndyJS said:

    Anyone know what the current state of boundaries is for both teams?

    England ahead, according to commentary.
    Yep, but I don't know whether they're only ahead by 1 or 2 which NZ could make-up in the super over.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,187
    AndyJS said:

    Anyone know what the current state of boundaries is for both teams?

    The Stokes deflection doesn't count.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,839
    rcs1000 said:

    Anyone know how I can watch this from the US?

    Will PM you
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    MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 37,606
    rcs1000 said:

    Anyone know how I can watch this from the US?

    r/insectenthusiasts
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961
    rcs1000 said:

    Anyone know how I can watch this from the US?

    BBC radio works overseas on their site. Other, less legal, options are available. :p
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    EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976

    RobD said:

    Sandpit said:

    Betfair’s £100m market voided on the tie. :o

    Wow!
    nope - I bet on SL SA and it went to a super over and it went by that so Sandpit is just pulling our legs
    Apparently not, based on the rules I've just read. Market voided
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Current boundaries, including super overs:

    England 26
    New Zealand 16

    So NZ can't catch up on boundaries, (except if England ball no-balls).
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    spudgfshspudgfsh Posts: 1,302
    AndyJS said:

    Sandpit said:

    AndyJS said:

    Anyone know what the current state of boundaries is for both teams?

    England ahead, according to commentary.
    Yep, but I don't know whether they're only ahead by 1 or 2 which NZ could make-up in the super over.
    Ahead by enough that they'd win if it what was required was achieved (16-24)
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    GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,077
    Get off my screen Piers.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited July 2019
    England 1.17
    New Zealand 6.2

    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/cricket/market/1.117991336

    I think NZ are value with those numbers.
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,108
    Well, you can't say it's been dull.

    But I just about favour New Zealand.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,280
    I'm backing New Zealand
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    DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    Cricket
    Wimbledon
    Grand Prix
    Winning the placepot at Stratford
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    RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 27,175
    Oh come on
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,839
    Boom 6.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    No offence to Archer, but not sure he was the best choice for this super over.
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    DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    Sunglasses for fielders. That's what we need. Not flyboards.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,839
    Underarm?
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,187
    Can we bowl underarm?
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,280
    Thank fuck for that.
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    Congratulations England!!!
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    solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,623
    Holy moly.
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    RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 27,175
    My lords!
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 116,937
    Fantastic win England, great match!
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    ydoethurydoethur Posts: 67,108
    That was a match for the fecking ages. What a result.

    And how unlucky are NZ?
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961
    ... :o
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,839
    ENGLAND!!!!!!!!!!!
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,336
    Epic.
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,215
    This would be a lot more interesting if they just started and finished with this super over and dispensed with the earlier hours of tedium
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,287
    NZ robbed.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,187
    ydoethur said:

    That was a match for the fecking ages. What a result.

    And how unlucky are NZ?

    The fielder who threw the ball at Stokes will not sleep tonight. Instinct, I know, but he shouldn't have thrown it.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,839
    England. And cricket. What an epic advert for the game.
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    RobDRobD Posts: 58,961
    IanB2 said:

    This would be a lot more interesting if they just started and finished with this super over and dispensed with the earlier hours of tedium

    Then how would the anticipation build up?
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,280
    Robert can finally unblock DavidL
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    RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 27,175
    So England win the world cup having tied the 50 overs and having then tied the super over
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    dr_spyn said:

    NZ robbed.

    I think the rules are probably going to have to be changed. A four scored in that manner shouldn't really be allowed to stand, even though it was completely unintentional.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,274
    Never in doubt....
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,280
    From the Guardian OBO

    I cannot begin to imagine what New Zealand are going through. They deserve to win, unquestionably, but were beaten in circumstances that would have been beyond Hunter S Thompson on acid, never mind your average scriptwriter.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    IanB2 said:

    This would be a lot more interesting if they just started and finished with this super over and dispensed with the earlier hours of tedium

    Cricket is mostly a marmite sport. You either love it or find it utterly boring.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,336
    RobD said:

    IanB2 said:

    This would be a lot more interesting if they just started and finished with this super over and dispensed with the earlier hours of tedium

    Then how would the anticipation build up?
    A Neil Diamond concert ?
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,891
    A pretty hollow victory.
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    AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Roger said:

    A pretty hollow victory.

    Trust you to be negative about it, lol.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,336
    dr_spyn said:

    NZ robbed.

    By fate.
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    dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,287
    Roger said:

    A pretty hollow victory.

    Am inclined to agree with you - can't recall anything quite like the final stages of that England innings.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,187
    Roger said:

    A pretty hollow victory.

    But Roger, we had a West Indian in our team, surely you were cheering for us today?
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    oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,831
    That's the team of the year sorted for SPOTY night.
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