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Obscure corners of the US constitution were made for delving into, particularly when they interact with a scenario which is not wholly implausible: in this case, a post-presidency impeachment.
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And its not just Darroch Johnson wouldn't stand up for:
Miss Symonds, 31, had allegedly been asked by her bosses to step down amid claims her performance was not up to scratch......Senior party officials asked her to quit last summer. They allegedly told her that if she did not agree to go she would face the sack.
Sources said Miss Symonds recruited her lover to argue for her job. But one claimed his attempts were viewed by Tory chiefs as “a bit half-hearted”.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-fought-save-partners-17859061
The other leader whose health is raising questions is Merkel's - she doesn't look well.
Here’s what he said about May in a tweet on Monday: “I have been very critical about the way the U.K. and Prime Minister Theresa May handled Brexit. What a mess she and her representatives have created.”
Both statements can’t be true. Darroch spoke what he saw as the truth, and for doing so, he’s out. Trump said what was most expedient or useful to him in the moment. He’s running for reelection.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/07/trumps-bullying-forces-uk-ambassador-resign/593668/
Simply, no matter what you did, he would back you in public. A stupid challenge? It was never a card, the referee must have been blind. A karate kick at a fan? Appalling provocation, the police should be involved.
In the dressing room, it was another matter. Sir Alex might throw boots at you or scream at you. He would tell you what he really thought of your behaviour.
But in front of the public: he always had your back, whether you were right or wrong.
That's how Boris Johnson should have been. He could tell Sir Kim to resign in private. But in public, he has to back his man.
That he did not, tells you much of the character of the man.
Boris is only interested in one person. Not his current girlfriend. Not his wife, nor his ex-wife, nor his "5 or 6" children. Only Boris.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/10/american-carnage-excerpt-access-hollywood-tape-227269
MPs' staffers have been warned to expect "distressing and uncomfortable" revelations in a long-awaited report into Parliament's bullying and sexual harassment culture to be published Thursday.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9472771/mp-staffers-warned-bullying-sexual-harassment-report/
Trump simply fails to grasp this self-evident point. As with Canada and Mexico, Germany and Japan, the EU and NATO, the pattern keeps repeating. The president is blind to the fact that alliances aren’t merely obligations; they serve America’s interests, whether constraining China or resolving conflicts in the Middle East.
The friendship between the U.K. and the U.S. will no doubt endure. It’s based not on the fixations of any one leader but on decades of shared values and interests. This rupture is hugely damaging nonetheless: Trump has managed to alienate America’s closest friend over a trifling spat, and gained nothing for it. “Uniquely dysfunctional” sums it up pretty well.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-07-10/darroch-resignation-highlights-trump-s-shameful-treatment-of-u-k
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jul/10/no-10-vows-deliver-landmark-northern-ireland-votes-same-sex-marriage-abortion
We know who the cult will blame for the ultimate failure of the Corbyn cancer - Israel. Not that there is an anti-semitism problem...
None of the Government, MPs or Speaker’s office has been given an advance copy of the report, which will be published in the House of Commons at 10am tomorrow.
But John Bercow and his staff are said to be “fearing the worst” from the report.
You don't see a basic political flaw with this strategy. Never mind a basic human decency flaw...
He should have backed Darroch in public, then told him privately to resign.
Her Majesty's Government backs its soldiers and its diplomats in public. What it does in private is another matter altogether.
I pointed out the one person on the program was an ex Israeli embassy employee, I realise as an angry centrist who keeps losing this is irritating so you have to create a grand conspiracy about what I really mean.
Keep ranting if it makes you feel better, the facts stand however angry a response you make to them.
For a start, the political effort and capital expended would be enormous, and an incoming Democratic administration faces enormous tasks, given the commitments the candidates are talking about, any single one of which will take great effort to shepherd through Congress.
In addition, the non-cooperation of the Republicans is almost guaranteed. While they are quite likely to abandon Trump, the last thing they will want to do is publicly rehearse at great length the details of how his malfeasance were enabled.
And what all this overlooks is that there are likely to be numerous pending criminal charges against him at the state level, certainly including, but not limited to, the active investigation in the Southern District of New York. A presidential pardon does not touch these, and recent Supreme Court rulings suggest they will not fall foul of any double jeopardy challenge.
Another four years in office would see Trump continue and likely accelerate his assault on an impartial justice system, but barring that, an incoming administration would have more important things to worry about.
Darroch would have chosen to fall on his sword, and Boris would have been publicly sorry that he chose to do so, although he quite understands his reasons.
You always back your people in public, even if you curse them in private.
http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201907100025.html
https://twitter.com/jonsnowC4/status/1149187510100221952
And it would be a lovely F.U. from Mrs May (who'd never say such a thing) to the Fat Fatuous Fathead
Miss Vance, Lord Darroch of Verity?
Would having a close Jewish friend, attending a Jewish wedding or having a holiday in Israel wreck a case. I watched a few minutes of the Eurovision Song Contest hosted by Israel this year. Does that make me just musically delinquent or an agent of Mossad ?
May will advise the Queen that presently Boris Johnson is best placed to secure the confidence of the House of Commons.
How long that situation persists is an entirely different matter.
If either of those occur what should May say?
No surprise I guess considering the polling showing more anti semitism among Conservative voters than other parties such as Labour and Lib Dems.
May remained PM in 2017 as did Heath and Wilson in 1974.
And stop this whataboutism. It’s moronic.
The times probably thinks Corbyn planned it with his buddies in the KKK.
John Ware thinks it was the Muslims.... In fairness broken clock syndrome has kicked in and it probably is actually some people who are Muslims.
I realise you are in a rush to criticise the Labour party but maybe look into things before you automatically attack, at least to maintain credibility when doing so....
If the BBC want to maintain their position in the field of investigative journalism they'll have to do better than that. Decent documentaries involve a lot of research and they cost a lot of money. Getting an office junior to splice together a few bits of old news footage and then to interview a few people with a gripe accompanied by some library music entitled 'funerial' doesn't cut it and never will. 2/10
You also imply that I'm an anti-Semitic Conservative voter. Wrong on both counts. The problem with Corbyn cultists is that you will brook no criticism of the Dear Leader even when fundamental weaknesses are evident. The project must not be derailed whatever the cost.
You are a great Whig.
It's probably easier to have loyal players when you're winning the title most years!
I also note the classic corbynista tactic of instead of discussing the actual point, it’s just a deflect, deflect, attack, attack.
I can’t wait until your cult becomes a SWP irrelevance one again.
I made no more serious implications than you did, if you find yourself offended then maybe consider how you treat others.
Also imagine I'm meeting the left wing slight with returned fire about ignorant old right wingers.
On Panorama, the Labour Party is acting exactly like the Catholic Church and its child abuse problem. Defend the institution whatever it takes and don't care who gets damaged on the way.
The best identifier for an anti semite is probably a right wing old man who bangs on about Muslims as being the problem.
Non-Labour members, imagine being Jewish or a non-Corbyn cultist in room full of Jezziahs. That's what many CLP meetings up and down the country are like these days - and there are many people suffering the anguish experienced by the Panorama interviewees as a result.
However, if I did have a vote, one of the few things that could potentially persuade me to back the egregious blond mop sex pest and serial liar would be Ashcroft endorsing the other candidate.
Being left-wing is not a slight. Being unable to recognise severe problems within a left wing party certainly is.
I have never heard woke voters call a woman him and then proceed to get angry when corrected that the other person has assumed the gender, I think you are out on your own there.
I can't wait until you can correctly identify which people you are trying to argue about.
Yes, of course the Labour Party has an AS problem. It's a leadership failure, and won't be properly dealt with until the leadership is changed.
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1139508299756384256
It's not as acute or far-reaching as the CC's problem, and much easier fixed. All the Party needs to do is appoint a competent compliance team and back it. I can't see the current leadership doing that so the leadership needs to be changed.
I can see that happening, but maybe not soon.
But that would be the least of the damage done.
Is the Chief Wingnut amongst us?
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But didn't most Tories and leavers also back Trump over the ambassador?
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2018/07/27/ultimately-corbyns-got-to-compromise-on-antisemitism-or-else-risk-splitting-the-party/
Ultimately, damaging though the accusations of racism are, they are most serious as a threat to Labour because they feed in to the impression of cronyism, incompetence, dishonesty and lethargy surrounding Corbyn's leadership. To this we can now also add bullying and managerial practices that Tsar Nicholas II would blush at.
Which is what is actually going to cost them the next election.
And on that cheerful note, have a good morning.