All this stuff about how Boris's campaign is "faltering" or is in "crisis" etc has there actually been any polling evidence to suggest he doesn't still have anything other than a commanding lead with Con members?
This campaign is becoming hugely entertaining, but so far the evidence that BoJo is a star campaigner seemcs pretty thin.
The original Lib Dem decapitation strategy was back in 2005 which was in a more innocent era.And it was the most imposing and abject failure in British politics since John Dudley tried to put his daughter in law on the throne of England.
And is widely agreed to be so by every Lib Dem apart from Ed Davey.
Why? Does he think that failing to win any targeted seat apart from one that with hindsight they would have been better off losing was a success?
Or does he just think the Home Rule Bill of 1886 was a worse failure?
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
All this stuff about how Boris's campaign is "faltering" or is in "crisis" etc has there actually been any polling evidence to suggest he doesn't still have anything other than a commanding lead with Con members?
This campaign is becoming hugely entertaining, but so far the evidence that BoJo is a star campaigner seemcs pretty thin.
I don't know. A star is a little prick in an acre of darkness.
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
Frightened by Johnson?
Speak for yourself. He is a Machiavellian narcissist and scares the living daylights out of me!
Machiavellian?!!!
Duplicitous, underhand and without moral compass.
Machiavelli was not without a moral compass. He believed a leader had a duty to act ruthlessly to defend the state.
The original Lib Dem decapitation strategy was back in 2005 which was in a more innocent era.And it was the most imposing and abject failure in British politics since John Dudley tried to put his daughter in law on the throne of England.
And is widely agreed to be so by every Lib Dem apart from Ed Davey.
Why? Does he think that failing to win any targeted seat apart from one that with hindsight they would have been better off losing was a success?
Or does he just think the Home Rule Bill of 1886 was a worse failure?
Ha. I couldn't tell you.
But I am interested to note that although Ed Davey is running a good campaign and appears very convincing, pretty much any Liberal Democrat of any significance (...yeah yeah, I know) has swung in behind Jo Swinson. I suspect that says a lot.
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
Frightened by Johnson?
Speak for yourself. He is a Machiavellian narcissist and scares the living daylights out of me!
Machiavellian?!!!
Duplicitous, underhand and without moral compass.
Machiavelli was not without a moral compass. He believed a leader had a duty to act ruthlessly to defend the state.
So you must admire the way the British state is thwarting the self-harm demanded of it by the people?
I didn't say I agreed with him. Just that he was not without a moral compass. And neither do I agree with your analysis that in this instance the British state is acting in the interests of the populace.
All this stuff about how Boris's campaign is "faltering" or is in "crisis" etc has there actually been any polling evidence to suggest he doesn't still have anything other than a commanding lead with Con members?
This campaign is becoming hugely entertaining, but so far the evidence that BoJo is a star campaigner seems pretty thin.
I don't know. A star is a little prick in an acre of darkness.
That joke is light years better than anything I could manage.
All this stuff about how Boris's campaign is "faltering" or is in "crisis" etc has there actually been any polling evidence to suggest he doesn't still have anything other than a commanding lead with Con members?
This campaign is becoming hugely entertaining, but so far the evidence that BoJo is a star campaigner seems pretty thin.
I don't know. A star is a little prick in an acre of darkness.
That joke is light years better than anything I could manage.
Well Boris as a historian knows what happened to Charles I when he tried this democratic obscenity.
I trust this post will be roundly condemned by many of your fellow remainers who rightly deplore the undercurrent of violence that is creeping into political discourse.
Or not.
Don't be a snowflake comrade.
I was talking about Boris, like Charles I, being removed from power.
It was your vile Leaver mind that jumped to execution.
Although a prominent Remainer, Sir Ed Davey, had to apologise today for suggesting the LibDems aim to decapitate Boris
And very graciously apologized for his language accepting that the term ‘decapitation’ whilst commonly used amongst political nerds was inappropriate.
I agree, but was setting out the context of why threatening someone that Parliament would treat someone like they treated Charles I would jump to that conclusion...
Not just because they have a “vile Leaver mind”
Me thinks TSE was tongue in cheek
His original post was. His response was unpleasant and nasty
It was directed at someone who has repeatedly said the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag operation.
Sure - LuckyGuy is a crank (at best) and should be ignored.
But the rhetoric on both sides should be toned down
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
Frightened by Johnson?
Speak for yourself. He is a Machiavellian narcissist and scares the living daylights out of me!
Machiavellian?!!!
Duplicitous, underhand and without moral compass.
Machiavelli was not without a moral compass. He believed a leader had a duty to act ruthlessly to defend the state.
So you must admire the way the British state is thwarting the self-harm demanded of it by the people?
I didn't say I agreed with him. Just that he was not without a moral compass. And neither do I agree with your analysis that in this instance the British state is acting in the interests of the populace.
The question is whether it's acting in the interests of the state, and if it is in the interests of the British state to be in the EU, does that not contradict the arguments about sovereignty?
Well Boris as a historian knows what happened to Charles I when he tried this democratic obscenity.
I trust this post will be roundly condemned by many of your fellow remainers who rightly deplore the undercurrent of violence that is creeping into political discourse.
Or not.
Don't be a snowflake comrade.
I was talking about Boris, like Charles I, being removed from power.
It was your vile Leaver mind that jumped to execution.
Although a prominent Remainer, Sir Ed Davey, had to apologise today for suggesting the LibDems aim to decapitate Boris
And very graciously apologized for his language accepting that the term ‘decapitation’ whilst commonly used amongst political nerds was inappropriate.
I agree, but was setting out the context of why threatening someone that Parliament would treat someone like they treated Charles I would jump to that conclusion...
Not just because they have a “vile Leaver mind”
Me thinks TSE was tongue in cheek
His original post was. His response was unpleasant and nasty
It was directed at someone who has repeatedly said the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag operation.
Sure - LuckyGuy is a crank (at best) and should be ignored.
But the rhetoric on both sides should be toned down
We need to heal as a polity and a nation
The healing process can only start when people who ought to have known better admit their mistakes.
All this stuff about how Boris's campaign is "faltering" or is in "crisis" etc has there actually been any polling evidence to suggest he doesn't still have anything other than a commanding lead with Con members?
This campaign is becoming hugely entertaining, but so far the evidence that BoJo is a star campaigner seemcs pretty thin.
Indeed it is difficult to see why the Tories regard him as a sure fire election winner when his campaign technique seems to consist of cowering in the corner refusing to engage with his opponents. When he does tiptoe out of his bunker he seems quite unable to answer even the most obvious and predictable questions from journalists. Even Theresa May was more forthcoming.
Well Boris as a historian knows what happened to Charles I when he tried this democratic obscenity.
I trust this post will be roundly condemned by many of your fellow remainers who rightly deplore the undercurrent of violence that is creeping into political discourse.
Or not.
Don't be a snowflake comrade.
I was talking about Boris, like Charles I, being removed from power.
It was your vile Leaver mind that jumped to execution.
Although a prominent Remainer, Sir Ed Davey, had to apologise today for suggesting the LibDems aim to decapitate Boris
And very graciously apologized for his language accepting that the term ‘decapitation’ whilst commonly used amongst political nerds was inappropriate.
I agree, but was setting out the context of why threatening someone that Parliament would treat someone like they treated Charles I would jump to that conclusion...
Not just because they have a “vile Leaver mind”
Me thinks TSE was tongue in cheek
His original post was. His response was unpleasant and nasty
It was directed at someone who has repeatedly said the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag operation.
Sure - LuckyGuy is a crank (at best) and should be ignored.
But the rhetoric on both sides should be toned down
We need to heal as a polity and a nation
The healing process can only start when people who ought to have known better admit their mistakes.
I agree: the likes of Grieve and Lee - as well as the nut jobs in the ERG - must accept that we need to leave in a firm which is broadly acceptable to most.
Well Boris as a historian knows what happened to Charles I when he tried this democratic obscenity.
I trust this post will be roundly condemned by many of your fellow remainers who rightly deplore the undercurrent of violence that is creeping into political discourse.
Or not.
Don't be a snowflake comrade.
I was talking about Boris, like Charles I, being removed from power.
It was your vile Leaver mind that jumped to execution.
Although a prominent Remainer, Sir Ed Davey, had to apologise today for suggesting the LibDems aim to decapitate Boris
And very graciously apologized for his language accepting that the term ‘decapitation’ whilst commonly used amongst political nerds was inappropriate.
I agree, but was setting out the context of why threatening someone that Parliament would treat someone like they treated Charles I would jump to that conclusion...
Not just because they have a “vile Leaver mind”
Me thinks TSE was tongue in cheek
His original post was. His response was unpleasant and nasty
It was directed at someone who has repeatedly said the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag operation.
Sure - LuckyGuy is a crank (at best) and should be ignored.
But the rhetoric on both sides should be toned down
We need to heal as a polity and a nation
The healing process can only start when people who ought to have known better admit their mistakes.
I agree: the likes of Grieve and Lee - as well as the nut jobs in the ERG - must accept that we need to leave in a firm which is broadly acceptable to most.
Hmmmm. Bit late to try to win support of “traitors”, ”saboteurs” and “citizens of nowhere”.
Well Boris as a historian knows what happened to Charles I when he tried this democratic obscenity.
I trust this post will be roundly condemned by many of your fellow remainers who rightly deplore the undercurrent of violence that is creeping into political discourse.
Or not.
Don't be a snowflake comrade.
I was talking about Boris, like Charles I, being removed from power.
It was your vile Leaver mind that jumped to execution.
Although a prominent Remainer, Sir Ed Davey, had to apologise today for suggesting the LibDems aim to decapitate Boris
And very graciously apologized for his language accepting that the term ‘decapitation’ whilst commonly used amongst political nerds was inappropriate.
I agree, but was setting out the context of why threatening someone that Parliament would treat someone like they treated Charles I would jump to that conclusion...
Not just because they have a “vile Leaver mind”
Me thinks TSE was tongue in cheek
His original post was. His response was unpleasant and nasty
It was directed at someone who has repeatedly said the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag operation.
Sure - LuckyGuy is a crank (at best) and should be ignored.
But the rhetoric on both sides should be toned down
We need to heal as a polity and a nation
Actually, I'm very simply a Tory. I merely believe states (or rather elements within them) to be capable of greater wickedness than most here would be comfortable to live with. It's not something I choose to spend much time dwelling upon however, and I have great optimism and confidence in humankind and that everything will turn out fine in the end.
Well Boris as a historian knows what happened to Charles I when he tried this democratic obscenity.
I trust this post will be roundly condemned by many of your fellow remainers who rightly deplore the undercurrent of violence that is creeping into political discourse.
Or not.
Don't be a snowflake comrade.
I was talking about Boris, like Charles I, being removed from power.
It was your vile Leaver mind that jumped to execution.
Although a prominent Remainer, Sir Ed Davey, had to apologise today for suggesting the LibDems aim to decapitate Boris
And very graciously apologized for his language accepting that the term ‘decapitation’ whilst commonly used amongst political nerds was inappropriate.
I agree, but was setting out the context of why threatening someone that Parliament would treat someone like they treated Charles I would jump to that conclusion...
Not just because they have a “vile Leaver mind”
Me thinks TSE was tongue in cheek
His original post was. His response was unpleasant and nasty
It was directed at someone who has repeatedly said the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag operation.
Sure - LuckyGuy is a crank (at best) and should be ignored.
But the rhetoric on both sides should be toned down
We need to heal as a polity and a nation
The healing process can only start when people who ought to have known better admit their mistakes.
I agree: the likes of Grieve and Lee - as well as the nut jobs in the ERG - must accept that we need to leave in a firm which is broadly acceptable to most.
Hmmmm. Bit late to try to win support of “traitors”, ”saboteurs” and “citizens of nowhere”.
None of those terms should be used although the last was mischievously and deliberately misinterpreted
Well Boris as a historian knows what happened to Charles I when he tried this democratic obscenity.
I trust this post will be roundly condemned by many of your fellow remainers who rightly deplore the undercurrent of violence that is creeping into political discourse.
Or not.
Don't be a snowflake comrade.
I was talking about Boris, like Charles I, being removed from power.
It was your vile Leaver mind that jumped to execution.
Although a prominent Remainer, Sir Ed Davey, had to apologise today for suggesting the LibDems aim to decapitate Boris
And very graciously apologized for his language accepting that the term ‘decapitation’ whilst commonly used amongst political nerds was inappropriate.
I agree, but was setting out the context of why threatening someone that Parliament would treat someone like they treated Charles I would jump to that conclusion...
Not just because they have a “vile Leaver mind”
Me thinks TSE was tongue in cheek
His original post was. His response was unpleasant and nasty
It was directed at someone who has repeatedly said the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag operation.
Sure - LuckyGuy is a crank (at best) and should be ignored.
But the rhetoric on both sides should be toned down
We need to heal as a polity and a nation
The healing process can only start when people who ought to have known better admit their mistakes.
I agree: the likes of Grieve and Lee - as well as the nut jobs in the ERG - must accept that we need to leave in a firm which is broadly acceptable to most.
Hmmmm. Bit late to try to win support of “traitors”, ”saboteurs” and “citizens of nowhere”.
None of those terms should be used although the last was mischievously and deliberately misinterpreted
Wake up old chap, the bridges are burned. Nobody in their right mind wants anything to do with it. You only have the ideological nut jobs left. The antithesis of everything Conservative.
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
When Pulpstar (I think it was) did a survey of regular PB posters a few months ago I believe the scores came to 44 Remain voters against 56 Leave voters.
Now, I am willing to believe a few erstwhile Leavers have seen the light since then but still the actual evidence hardly supports the suggestion that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers".
Well Boris as a historian knows what happened to Charles I when he tried this democratic obscenity.
I trust this post will be roundly condemned by many of your fellow remainers who rightly deplore the undercurrent of violence that is creeping into political discourse.
Or not.
Don't be a snowflake comrade.
I was talking about Boris, like Charles I, being removed from power.
It was your vile Leaver mind that jumped to execution.
Although a prominent Remainer, Sir Ed Davey, had to apologise today for suggesting the LibDems aim to decapitate Boris
And very graciously apologized for his language accepting that the term ‘decapitation’ whilst commonly used amongst political nerds was inappropriate.
I agree, but was setting out the context of why threatening someone that Parliament would treat someone like they treated Charles I would jump to that conclusion...
Not just because they have a “vile Leaver mind”
Me thinks TSE was tongue in cheek
His original post was. His response was unpleasant and nasty
It was directed at someone who has repeatedly said the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag operation.
Sure - LuckyGuy is a crank (at best) and should be ignored.
But the rhetoric on both sides should be toned down
We need to heal as a polity and a nation
The healing process can only start when people who ought to have known better admit their mistakes.
I agree: the likes of Grieve and Lee - as well as the nut jobs in the ERG - must accept that we need to leave in a firm which is broadly acceptable to most.
Hmmmm. Bit late to try to win support of “traitors”, ”saboteurs” and “citizens of nowhere”.
None of those terms should be used although the last was mischievously and deliberately misinterpreted
Ok, lets hear how we have mischievously and deliberately interpreted citizens of nowhere. I am a citizen of London, UK, Europe and the world and proud of all of them, not a citizen of nowhere.
Well Boris as a historian knows what happened to Charles I when he tried this democratic obscenity.
I trust this post will be roundly condemned by many of your fellow remainers who rightly deplore the undercurrent of violence that is creeping into political discourse.
Or not.
Don't be a snowflake comrade.
I was talking about Boris, like Charles I, being removed from power.
It was your vile Leaver mind that jumped to execution.
Although a prominent Remainer, Sir Ed Davey, had to apologise today for suggesting the LibDems aim to decapitate Boris
And very graciously apologized for his language accepting that the term ‘decapitation’ whilst commonly used amongst political nerds was inappropriate.
I agree, but was setting out the context of why threatening someone that Parliament would treat someone like they treated Charles I would jump to that conclusion...
Not just because they have a “vile Leaver mind”
Me thinks TSE was tongue in cheek
His original post was. His response was unpleasant and nasty
It was directed at someone who has repeatedly said the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag operation.
Sure - LuckyGuy is a crank (at best) and should be ignored.
But the rhetoric on both sides should be toned down
We need to heal as a polity and a nation
The healing process can only start when people who ought to have known better admit their mistakes.
Yes, when John Major admits he was wrong on Maastricht we can start the process.
Ok, lets hear how we have mischievously and deliberately interpreted citizens of nowhere. I am a citizen of London, UK, Europe and the world and proud of all of them, not a citizen of nowhere.
Ok, lets hear how we have mischievously and deliberately interpreted citizens of nowhere. I am a citizen of London, UK, Europe and the world and proud of all of them, not a citizen of nowhere.
But are you a queue jumper?!
Yes, if the person/people ahead are dallying. Otherwise no.
Well Boris as a historian knows what happened to Charles I when he tried this democratic obscenity.
I trust this post will be roundly condemned by many of your fellow remainers who rightly deplore the undercurrent of violence that is creeping into political discourse.
Or not.
Don't be a snowflake comrade.
I was talking about Boris, like Charles I, being removed from power.
It was your vile Leaver mind that jumped to execution.
Although a prominent Remainer, Sir Ed Davey, had to apologise today for suggesting the LibDems aim to decapitate Boris
And very graciously apologized for his language accepting that the term ‘decapitation’ whilst commonly used amongst political nerds was inappropriate.
I agree, but was setting out the context of why threatening someone that Parliament would treat someone like they treated Charles I would jump to that conclusion...
Not just because they have a “vile Leaver mind”
Me thinks TSE was tongue in cheek
His original post was. His response was unpleasant and nasty
It was directed at someone who has repeatedly said the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag operation.
Sure - LuckyGuy is a crank (at best) and should be ignored.
But the rhetoric on both sides should be toned down
We need to heal as a polity and a nation
The healing process can only start when people who ought to have known better admit their mistakes.
Yes, when John Major admits he was wrong on Maastricht we can start the process.
Indeed, he should never have imposed those opt-outs that left us bitter and marginalised.
How long before someone in the Johnson camp comes out with the line 'Let Boris be Boris'?
He likes buses. We know that. Some with big fat lies on them.
I cannot understand why he brought buses up again as everyone associates that with his lies about Brexit on the side of buses. I would like to see these model buses and paintings he has been doing as well, just to prove he was not telling yet more porkies!
Boris Johnson comes across very badly IMO. Why on earth anyone would want Boris as PM is beyond me.
Well Boris as a historian knows what happened to Charles I when he tried this democratic obscenity.
I trust this post will be roundly condemned by many of your fellow remainers who rightly deplore the undercurrent of violence that is creeping into political discourse.
Or not.
Don't be a snowflake comrade.
I was talking about Boris, like Charles I, being removed from power.
It was your vile Leaver mind that jumped to execution.
Although a prominent Remainer, Sir Ed Davey, had to apologise today for suggesting the LibDems aim to decapitate Boris
And very graciously apologized for his language accepting that the term ‘decapitation’ whilst commonly used amongst political nerds was inappropriate.
I agree, but was setting out the context of why threatening someone that Parliament would treat someone like they treated Charles I would jump to that conclusion...
Not just because they have a “vile Leaver mind”
Me thinks TSE was tongue in cheek
His original post was. His response was unpleasant and nasty
It was directed at someone who has repeatedly said the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag operation.
Sure - LuckyGuy is a crank (at best) and should be ignored.
But the rhetoric on both sides should be toned down
We need to heal as a polity and a nation
The healing process can only start when people who ought to have known better admit their mistakes.
Yes, when John Major admits he was wrong on Maastricht we can start the process.
Indeed, he should never have imposed those opt-outs that left us bitter and marginalised.
Well Boris as a historian knows what happened to Charles I when he tried this democratic obscenity.
I trust this post will be roundly condemned by many of your fellow remainers who rightly deplore the undercurrent of violence that is creeping into political discourse.
Or not.
Don't be a snowflake comrade.
I was talking about Boris, like Charles I, being removed from power.
It was your vile Leaver mind that jumped to execution.
Although a prominent Remainer, Sir Ed Davey, had to apologise today for suggesting the LibDems aim to decapitate Boris
And very graciously apologized for his language accepting that the term ‘decapitation’ whilst commonly used amongst political nerds was inappropriate.
I agree, but was setting out the context of why threatening someone that Parliament would treat someone like they treated Charles I would jump to that conclusion...
Not just because they have a “vile Leaver mind”
Me thinks TSE was tongue in cheek
His original post was. His response was unpleasant and nasty
It was directed at someone who has repeatedly said the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag operation.
Sure - LuckyGuy is a crank (at best) and should be ignored.
But the rhetoric on both sides should be toned down
We need to heal as a polity and a nation
The healing process can only start when people who ought to have known better admit their mistakes.
Yes, when John Major admits he was wrong on Maastricht we can start the process.
Indeed, he should never have imposed those opt-outs that left us bitter and marginalised.
Yes, then put it to a referendum.
Agreed. It would have been Maggie's Last Stand, and UK politics would have been completely different over the last 20 years.
How long before someone in the Johnson camp comes out with the line 'Let Boris be Boris'?
He likes buses. We know that. Some with big fat lies on them.
I cannot understand why he brought buses up again as everyone associates that with his lies about Brexit on the side of buses. I would like to see these model buses and paintings he has been doing as well, just to prove he was not telling yet more porkies!
Boris Johnson comes across very badly IMO. Why on earth anyone would want Boris as PM is beyond me.
It is a core vote strategy and shows he is only interested in squeaking thru to be PM, not campaigning to the wider public. We are not going to have an autumn election and we are therefore not leaving in October (barring strange events).
Well Boris as a historian knows what happened to Charles I when he tried this democratic obscenity.
I trust this post will be roundly condemned by many of your fellow remainers who rightly deplore the undercurrent of violence that is creeping into political discourse.
Or not.
Don't be a snowflake comrade.
I was talking about Boris, like Charles I, being removed from power.
It was your vile Leaver mind that jumped to execution.
Although a prominent Remainer, Sir Ed Davey, had to apologise today for suggesting the LibDems aim to decapitate Boris
And very graciously apologized for his language accepting that the term ‘decapitation’ whilst commonly used amongst political nerds was inappropriate.
I agree, but was setting out the context of why threatening someone that Parliament would treat someone like they treated Charles I would jump to that conclusion...
Not just because they have a “vile Leaver mind”
Me thinks TSE was tongue in cheek
His original post was. His response was unpleasant and nasty
It was directed at someone who has repeatedly said the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag operation.
Sure - LuckyGuy is a crank (at best) and should be ignored.
But the rhetoric on both sides should be toned down
We need to heal as a polity and a nation
The healing process can only start when people who ought to have known better admit their mistakes.
Yes, when John Major admits he was wrong on Maastricht we can start the process.
Indeed, he should never have imposed those opt-outs that left us bitter and marginalised.
Yes, then put it to a referendum.
Agreed. It would have been Maggie's Last Stand, and UK politics would have been completely different over the last 20 years.
As if people would have voted to join the Euro, or Maggie would have been in favour of it. Delusional.
Well Boris as a historian knows what happened to Charles I when he tried this democratic obscenity.
I trust this post will be roundly condemned by many of your fellow remainers who rightly deplore the undercurrent of violence that is creeping into political discourse.
Or not.
Don't be a snowflake comrade.
I was talking about Boris, like Charles I, being removed from power.
It was your vile Leaver mind that jumped to execution.
Although a prominent Remainer, Sir Ed Davey, had to apologise today for suggesting the LibDems aim to decapitate Boris
And very graciously apologized for his language accepting that the term ‘decapitation’ whilst commonly used amongst political nerds was inappropriate.
I agree, but was setting out the context of why threatening someone that Parliament would treat someone like they treated Charles I would jump to that conclusion...
Not just because they have a “vile Leaver mind”
Me thinks TSE was tongue in cheek
His original post was. His response was unpleasant and nasty
It was directed at someone who has repeatedly said the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag operation.
Sure - LuckyGuy is a crank (at best) and should be ignored.
But the rhetoric on both sides should be toned down
We need to heal as a polity and a nation
The healing process can only start when people who ought to have known better admit their mistakes.
Yes, when John Major admits he was wrong on Maastricht we can start the process.
Indeed, he should never have imposed those opt-outs that left us bitter and marginalised.
Yes, then put it to a referendum.
Agreed. It would have been Maggie's Last Stand, and UK politics would have been completely different over the last 20 years.
As if people would have voted to join the Euro, or Maggie would have been in favour of it. Delusional.
I'm suggesting Maggie would have inevitably become the face of No, and would have lost.
How long before someone in the Johnson camp comes out with the line 'Let Boris be Boris'?
He likes buses. We know that. Some with big fat lies on them.
I cannot understand why he brought buses up again as everyone associates that with his lies about Brexit o4n the side of buses. I would like to see these model buses and paintings he has been doing as well, just to prove he was not telling yet more porkies!
Boris Johnson comes across very badly IMO. Why on earth anyone would want Boris as PM is beyond me.
It is a core vote strategy and shows he is only interested in squeaking thru to be PM, not campaigning to the wider public. We are not going to have an autumn election and we are therefore not leaving in October (barring strange events).
I think he is being badly advised them. He is not going to rebuild trust by saying one thing and doing the reverse.
Well Boris as a historian knows what happened to Charles I when he tried this democratic obscenity.
I trust this post will be roundly condemned by many of your fellow remainers who rightly deplore the undercurrent of violence that is creeping into political discourse.
Or not.
Don't be a snowflake comrade.
I was talking about Boris, like Charles I, being removed from power.
It was your vile Leaver mind that jumped to execution.
Although a prominent Remainer, Sir Ed Davey, had to apologise today for suggesting the LibDems aim to decapitate Boris
And very graciously apologized for his language accepting that the term ‘decapitation’ whilst commonly used amongst political nerds was inappropriate.
I agree, but was setting out the context of why threatening someone that Parliament would treat someone like they treated Charles I would jump to that conclusion...
Not just because they have a “vile Leaver mind”
Me thinks TSE was tongue in cheek
His original post was. His response was unpleasant and nasty
It was directed at someone who has repeatedly said the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag operation.
Sure - LuckyGuy is a crank (at best) and should be ignored.
But the rhetoric on both sides should be toned down
We need to heal as a polity and a nation
The healing process can only start when people who ought to have known better admit their mistakes.
I agree: the likes of Grieve and Lee - as well as the nut jobs in the ERG - must accept that we need to leave in a firm which is broadly acceptable to most.
Hmmmm. Bit late to try to win support of “traitors”, ”saboteurs” and “citizens of nowhere”.
None of those terms should be used although the last was mischievously and deliberately misinterpreted
It is remarkable how many people thought "those who think themselves citizens of the world" could refer to those who think themselves cosmopolitans.
There's not always something much behind an action. It may well just be as it appears - he knows that plan will not work and will not pretend it will.
Which given even the Mayites did plenty of pretending things would work, is a pretty strong indication of how much he believes that plan will not work.
Katya says EU leaders don't think either man would throw away their premiership after two months by trying to force No Deal on MPs.
Perhaps they are a better judge of Boris than his own cultish supporters.
Perhaps, but the EU leaders are not perfect prognosticators by any means, nor do people always react rationally in a time of crisis. One, or both, men, might find their premiership being taken from them if they don't go for no deal and cannot come up with anything else.
In such a situation they might crave the false agency of choosing to throw their premiership away (and hoping it works out) rather than be brought down from the other side for not getting us out.
How long before someone in the Johnson camp comes out with the line 'Let Boris be Boris'?
He likes buses. We know that. Some with big fat lies on them.
I cannot understand why he brought buses up again as everyone associates that with his lies about Brexit o4n the side of buses. I would like to see these model buses and paintings he has been doing as well, just to prove he was not telling yet more porkies!
Boris Johnson comes across very badly IMO. Why on earth anyone would want Boris as PM is beyond me.
It is a core vote strategy and shows he is only interested in squeaking thru to be PM, not campaigning to the wider public. We are not going to have an autumn election and we are therefore not leaving in October (barring strange events).
I think he is being badly advised them. He is not going to rebuild trust by saying one thing and doing the reverse.
He is only interested in squeaking thru to be PM, not what happens afterwards. He is making his own decisions.
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
When Pulpstar (I think it was) did a survey of regular PB posters a few months ago I believe the scores came to 44 Remain voters against 56 Leave voters.
Now, I am willing to believe a few erstwhile Leavers have seen the light since then but still the actual evidence hardly supports the suggestion that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers".
Soft leavers count as remainers. And soft now includes people who are not willing to see no deal.
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
When Pulpstar (I think it was) did a survey of regular PB posters a few months ago I believe the scores came to 44 Remain voters against 56 Leave voters.
Now, I am willing to believe a few erstwhile Leavers have seen the light since then but still the actual evidence hardly supports the suggestion that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers".
Soft leavers count as remainers. And soft now includes people who are not willing to see no deal.
Rory Stewart is apparently a hardcore remainer whilst explicitly ruling out revoke and second referendum, and promising to leave.
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
When Pulpstar (I think it was) did a survey of regular PB posters a few months ago I believe the scores came to 44 Remain voters against 56 Leave voters.
Now, I am willing to believe a few erstwhile Leavers have seen the light since then but still the actual evidence hardly supports the suggestion that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers".
Was a bit of fun but yes there was an evenish split of leavers and remainers.
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
Which party DO you think this "vast majority" wants to win? Corbyn's Labour? TBP?
Well Boris as a historian knows what happened to Charles I when he tried this democratic obscenity.
I trust this post will be roundly condemned by many of your fellow remainers who rightly deplore the undercurrent of violence that is creeping into political discourse.
Or not.
Don't be a snowflake comrade.
I was talking about Boris, like Charles I, being removed from power.
It was your vile Leaver mind that jumped to execution.
Although a prominent Remainer, Sir Ed Davey, had to apologise today for suggesting the LibDems aim to decapitate Boris
And very graciously apologized for his language accepting that the term ‘decapitation’ whilst commonly used amongst political nerds was inappropriate.
I agree, but was setting out the context of why threatening someone that Parliament would treat someone like they treated Charles I would jump to that conclusion...
Not just because they have a “vile Leaver mind”
Me thinks TSE was tongue in cheek
His original post was. His response was unpleasant and nasty
It was directed at someone who has repeatedly said the murder of Jo Cox was a false flag operation.
Sure - LuckyGuy is a crank (at best) and should be ignored.
But the rhetoric on both sides should be toned down
We need to heal as a polity and a nation
Actually, I'm very simply a Tory. I merely believe states (or rather elements within them) to be capable of greater wickedness than most here would be comfortable to live with. It's not something I choose to spend much time dwelling upon however, and I have great optimism and confidence in humankind and that everything will turn out fine in the end.
Hmm, you have dwelt on it sufficiently to repeat the odious claim about the late Ms Cox several times on PB, with neither retraction nor regret.
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
When Pulpstar (I think it was) did a survey of regular PB posters a few months ago I believe the scores came to 44 Remain voters against 56 Leave voters.
Now, I am willing to believe a few erstwhile Leavers have seen the light since then but still the actual evidence hardly supports the suggestion that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers".
Soft leavers count as remainers. And soft now includes people who are not willing to see no deal.
Rory Stewart is apparently a hardcore remainer whilst explicitly ruling out revoke and second referendum, and promising to leave.
And yet people here took him to their hearts - and were gutted when he didn't make the final two.....
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
When Pulpstar (I think it was) did a survey of regular PB posters a few months ago I believe the scores came to 44 Remain voters against 56 Leave voters.
Now, I am willing to believe a few erstwhile Leavers have seen the light since then but still the actual evidence hardly supports the suggestion that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers".
Soft leavers count as remainers. And soft now includes people who are not willing to see no deal.
How long before the Leave community splinters even further? I suspect the next true Leaver will only be someone who agrees with the forced deportation of all EU citizens. Slippery slope and all that.
Andrew Mitchell a psychologist’s dream on Newsnight. All the ticks and nervous pauses at the wrong moment. Bogus outrage, clenched knuckles, public-schoolboy condescension, you name it.
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
When Pulpstar (I think it was) did a survey of regular PB posters a few months ago I believe the scores came to 44 Remain voters against 56 Leave voters.
Now, I am willing to believe a few erstwhile Leavers have seen the light since then but still the actual evidence hardly supports the suggestion that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers".
Soft leavers count as remainers. And soft now includes people who are not willing to see no deal.
I should have just told HYUFD that a recent poll of PBers proved that the PBLeave party was going to win a landslide majority in the next GE.
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
When Pulpstar (I think it was) did a survey of regular PB posters a few months ago I believe the scores came to 44 Remain voters against 56 Leave voters.
Now, I am willing to believe a few erstwhile Leavers have seen the light since then but still the actual evidence hardly supports the suggestion that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers".
Soft leavers count as remainers. And soft now includes people who are not willing to see no deal.
How long before the Leave community splinters even further? I suspect the next true Leaver will only be someone who agrees with the forced deportation of all EU citizens. Slippery slope and all that.
I think that's the plot of the video game 'Not tonight'.
Andrew Mitchell a psychologist’s dream on Newsnight. All the ticks and nervous pauses at the wrong moment. Bogus outrage, clenched knuckles, public-schoolboy condescension, you name it.
I thought he came across very badly. Trying to not talk about planted pictures shows a campaign born of deception. Do they think we dont notice these things?
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
Which party DO you think this "vast majority" wants to win? Corbyn's Labour? TBP?
Dunno, something crazy like his actual job as a trade minister?
Liam seems to be on something of a journey. We’ll make a Remainer of him yet!
Die hard leavers are the best people to convince one time leavers to become remainers. Die hard remainers are the best people to convince one time remainers to become leavers.
And of course, while the BoJos of the world who said the WA was worse than remaining were full of it and voted for it in the end (in fairness I don't recall if he personally actually implied that, but some of the ERG sure did), there are holdouts who believe it, and thus are technically remainers by default if they cannot get no deal.
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
When Pulpstar (I think it was) did a survey of regular PB posters a few months ago I believe the scores came to 44 Remain voters against 56 Leave voters.
Now, I am willing to believe a few erstwhile Leavers have seen the light since then but still the actual evidence hardly supports the suggestion that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers".
The last full survey of PBers I saw in 2015 was Tories and Labour about the national average but an over representation of LDs and an under representation of UKIP backers
Boris will still probably win the leadership, but if he runs a general election campaign like the way he's acting now, even someone like Corbyn could beat him.
Boris will still probably win the leadership, but if he runs a general election campaign like the way he's acting now, even someone like Corbyn could beat him.
That’s harsh. His homemade battle bus will win over the people.
Andrew Mitchell a psychologist’s dream on Newsnight. All the ticks and nervous pauses at the wrong moment. Bogus outrage, clenched knuckles, public-schoolboy condescension, you name it.
I thought he came across very badly. Trying to not talk about planted pictures shows a campaign born of deception. Do they think we dont notice these things?
Empathy and sharp antennae are not really a Tory thing.
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
When Pulpstar (I think it was) did a survey of regular PB posters a few months ago I believe the scores came to 44 Remain voters against 56 Leave voters.
Now, I am willing to believe a few erstwhile Leavers have seen the light since then but still the actual evidence hardly supports the suggestion that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers".
Soft leavers count as remainers. And soft now includes people who are not willing to see no deal.
How long before the Leave community splinters even further? I suspect the next true Leaver will only be someone who agrees with the forced deportation of all EU citizens. Slippery slope and all that.
I think that's the plot of the video game 'Not tonight'.
Really? Clever that they made a game from it, though it is rather obvious.
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
When Pulpstar (I think it was) did a survey of regular PB posters a few months ago I believe the scores came to 44 Remain voters against 56 Leave voters.
Now, I am willing to believe a few erstwhile Leavers have seen the light since then but still the actual evidence hardly supports the suggestion that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers".
The last full survey of PBers I saw in 2015 was Tories and Labour about the national average but an over representation of LDs and an under representation of UKIP backers
I take it you accept your earlier statement that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers" is rubbish?
Boris will still probably win the leadership, but if he runs a general election campaign like the way he's acting now, even someone like Corbyn could beat him.
It is a joke campaign!
Like with Brexit Leavers, the Tories are not listening to the public. They will regret propelling Boris into No.10!
Boris will still probably win the leadership, but if he runs a general election campaign like the way he's acting now, even someone like Corbyn could beat him.
That’s harsh. His homemade battle bus will win over the people.
Banksy will probably paint a Red Bus onto Johnsons flat wall with some cutting jibe with Boris dressed as a clown.
Boris will still probably win the leadership, but if he runs a general election campaign like the way he's acting now, even someone like Corbyn could beat him.
It is a joke campaign!
Like with Brexit Leavers, the Tories are not listening to the public. They will regret propelling Boris into No.10!
The Tories are listening to the public, Boris still led Hunt with the public in the Sky Data poll yesterday outside of London and more narrowly Scotland
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
When Pulpstar (I think it was) did a survey of regular PB posters a few months ago I believe the scores came to 44 Remain voters against 56 Leave voters.
Now, I am willing to believe a few erstwhile Leavers have seen the light since then but still the actual evidence hardly supports the suggestion that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers".
The last full survey of PBers I saw in 2015 was Tories and Labour about the national average but an over representation of LDs and an under representation of UKIP backers
I take it you accept your earlier statement that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers" is rubbish?
No. The vast majority of PBers are not committed Leavers, Deal or No Deal
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
When Pulpstar (I think it was) did a survey of regular PB posters a few months ago I believe the scores came to 44 Remain voters against 56 Leave voters.
Now, I am willing to believe a few erstwhile Leavers have seen the light since then but still the actual evidence hardly supports the suggestion that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers".
The last full survey of PBers I saw in 2015 was Tories and Labour about the national average but an over representation of LDs and an under representation of UKIP backers
I take it you accept your earlier statement that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers" is rubbish?
No. The vast majority of PBers are not committed Leavers, Deal or No Deal
Have you one shred of evidence to support your claim?
Edit: I see you have changed your claim - pathetic.
Boris will still probably win the leadership, but if he runs a general election campaign like the way he's acting now, even someone like Corbyn could beat him.
A leadership campaign where he is still in the lead you mean?
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
When Pulpstar (I think it was) did a survey of regular PB posters a few months ago I believe the scores came to 44 Remain voters against 56 Leave voters.
Now, I am willing to believe a few erstwhile Leavers have seen the light since then but still the actual evidence hardly supports the suggestion that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers".
The last full survey of PBers I saw in 2015 was Tories and Labour about the national average but an over representation of LDs and an under representation of UKIP backers
I take it you accept your earlier statement that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers" is rubbish?
No. The vast majority of PBers are not committed Leavers, Deal or No Deal
Boris will still probably win the leadership, but if he runs a general election campaign like the way he's acting now, even someone like Corbyn could beat him.
That’s harsh. His homemade battle bus will win over the people.
He can double it up as a soap box. Worked for Major....
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
When Pulpstar (I think it was) did a survey of regular PB posters a few months ago I believe the scores came to 44 Remain voters against 56 Leave voters.
Now, I am willing to believe a few erstwhile Leavers have seen the light since then but still the actual evidence hardly supports the suggestion that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers".
The last full survey of PBers I saw in 2015 was Tories and Labour about the national average but an over representation of LDs and an under representation of UKIP backers
I take it you accept your earlier statement that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers" is rubbish?
No. The vast majority of PBers are not committed Leavers, Deal or No Deal
HYUFD voted Remain
Yes I know, he's one of the 44 Remainers from (Pulpstar's?) list.
Boris will still probably win the leadership, but if he runs a general election campaign like the way he's acting now, even someone like Corbyn could beat him.
A leadership campaign where he is still in the lead you mean?
I'm sure most Tory members still love him, no matter what he does. I don't know whether the rest of the voting public would be so forgiving.
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
When Pulpstar (I think it was) did a survey of regular PB posters a few months ago I believe the scores came to 44 Remain voters against 56 Leave voters.
Now, I am willing to believe a few erstwhile Leavers have seen the light since then but still the actual evidence hardly supports the suggestion that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers".
The last full survey of PBers I saw in 2015 was Tories and Labour about the national average but an over representation of LDs and an under representation of UKIP backers
I take it you accept your earlier statement that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers" is rubbish?
No. The vast majority of PBers are not committed Leavers, Deal or No Deal
Haha. So now 'committed' leavers are the only ones who count. Shameless goalpost moving.
I've never seen such unanimity on PB about the unsuitability of a politician for high office and particularly one from the right. Even Corbyn had his followers.
Only because the vast majority of PBers are Remainers determined to stop Brexit and they are frightened of Boris as he might actually win a general election and deliver Brexit
When Pulpstar (I think it was) did a survey of regular PB posters a few months ago I believe the scores came to 44 Remain voters against 56 Leave voters.
Now, I am willing to believe a few erstwhile Leavers have seen the light since then but still the actual evidence hardly supports the suggestion that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers".
The last full survey of PBers I saw in 2015 was Tories and Labour about the national average but an over representation of LDs and an under representation of UKIP backers
I take it you accept your earlier statement that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers" is rubbish?
No. The vast majority of PBers are not committed Leavers, Deal or No Deal
Haha. So now 'committed' leavers are the only ones who count. Shameless goalpost moving.
By definition if you are not committed to Leave even with No Deal you are willing to Remain
Boris will still probably win the leadership, but if he runs a general election campaign like the way he's acting now, even someone like Corbyn could beat him.
A leadership campaign where he is still in the lead you mean?
I'm sure most Tory members still love him, no matter what he does. I don't know whether the rest of the voting public would be so forgiving.
The voting public still had Boris ahead of Hunt with Sky's poll yesterday and not one recent poll has had a Boris led Tory Party behind Corbyn Labour in voteshare
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Or does he just think the Home Rule Bill of 1886 was a worse failure?
But I am interested to note that although Ed Davey is running a good campaign and appears very convincing, pretty much any Liberal Democrat of any significance (...yeah yeah, I know) has swung in behind Jo Swinson. I suspect that says a lot.
It's possible, but not more likely than not. I think the 30-40% band is cheap at 23/10 (boosted)
Someone mentioned it
But the rhetoric on both sides should be toned down
We need to heal as a polity and a nation
Now, I am willing to believe a few erstwhile Leavers have seen the light since then but still the actual evidence hardly supports the suggestion that the "vast majority of PBers are Remainers".
Still our last hope. Go Jeremy!
https://twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1143626890336460802
Perhaps they are a better judge of Boris than his own cultish supporters.
Boris Johnson comes across very badly IMO. Why on earth anyone would want Boris as PM is beyond me.
Which given even the Mayites did plenty of pretending things would work, is a pretty strong indication of how much he believes that plan will not work.
In such a situation they might crave the false agency of choosing to throw their premiership away (and hoping it works out) rather than be brought down from the other side for not getting us out.
https://twitter.com/peterkyle/status/1143619022640033792
And of course, while the BoJos of the world who said the WA was worse than remaining were full of it and voted for it in the end (in fairness I don't recall if he personally actually implied that, but some of the ERG sure did), there are holdouts who believe it, and thus are technically remainers by default if they cannot get no deal.
It is like asking the disgraced Linford Christie to commentate the Olympic Games.
She impresses every time she hosts Newsnight .
Like with Brexit Leavers, the Tories are not listening to the public. They will regret propelling Boris into No.10!
Edit: I see you have changed your claim - pathetic.
You're listed on the Leave side Sunil - shocking!
https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1143621421807099906?s=20
https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1143621423547723776?s=20
https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1143621425577832449?s=20