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Wish I could show a Handbags iconHYUFD said:0 -
Macron being very no dealish according to Rigby, no serious idea on table0
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Tbf Boulton has a backbone with the tensile strength of a curly wurlyExiledInScotland said:
Wish I could show a Handbags iconHYUFD said:0 -
Is Westminster a better school than Eton? Discuss....HYUFD said:0 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwXSYcXbVYYdyedwoolie said:
Tbf Boulton has a backbone with the tensile strength of a curly wurlyExiledInScotland said:
Wish I could show a Handbags iconHYUFD said:0 -
Not tonight but I think the Cabinet will end May's time as PM tomorrow or Friday.Scott_P said:0 -
Betting on Francois is definitely more likely than my bets on Sherrod Brown and Tulsi Gabbard.0
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Jealousy is Eton the Moggsters alive.FrancisUrquhart said:
Is Westminster a better school than Eton? Discuss....HYUFD said:0 -
If it means so much to Bone, why does he not resign the whip in protest? I don't think the Brexit supporting MPs have been squeezed hard enough as none are willing to walk away from the party and if they do Boris becoming PM diminishes...Scott_P said:0 -
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She's been the DUP leader for ages, where is this guy getting his info.TGOHF said:
I don't know why Arlene has got a strop on about this, isn't it what she actually wanted?0 -
He means 'new' as in 'breaking news'.Luckyguy1983 said:
She's been the DUP leader for ages, where is this guy getting his info.TGOHF said:
I don't know why Arlene has got a strop on about this, isn't it what she actually wanted?0 -
You can imagine him thinking:dyedwoolie said:Macron being very no dealish according to Rigby, no serious idea on table
I say Non and then either les Rosbifs revoke (and we make fun of them forever),or they pass the WA in a panic (and we make fun of them forever while passing whatever rules we like to choke their industry) or they No Deal (and probably crawl back in a few weeks to sign the WA anyway).
Their gouvernement has shown itself so useless that they won't make a success of their economy outside the EU anyway.
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He means 'new' as in 'breaking news'.Luckyguy1983 said:
She's been the DUP leader for ages, where is this guy getting his info.TGOHF said:
I don't know why Arlene has got a strop on about this, isn't it what she actually wanted?0 -
I'm amazed it's not their preferred position tbhExiledInScotland said:
You can imagine him thinking:dyedwoolie said:Macron being very no dealish according to Rigby, no serious idea on table
I say Non and then either les Rosbifs revoke (and we make fun of them forever),or they pass the WA in a panic (and we make fun of them forever while passing whatever rules we like to choke their industry) or they No Deal (and probably crawl back in a few weeks to sign the WA anyway).
Their gouvernement has shown itself so useless that they won't make a success of their economy outside the EU anyway.
Where is the downside?0 -
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Two public schoolboys arguing over which of them went to a ‘better’ school. Even PB’s falsely modest Cowley Tech / Fen Poly wank is more bearable.0
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Chuka can always have a "People's Vote" in his constituency anytime he likes...HYUFD said:
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I think old Fathead takes the biscuit, after accepting an Honorary Doctorate of Business from Plymouth University....he has never run a business and Plymouth Poly shakes head..._Anazina_ said:Two public schoolboys arguing over which of them went to a ‘better’ school. Even PB’s falsely modest Cowley Tech / Fen Poly wank is more bearable.
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Brave move with an election round the corner, and since there's no party/whip discipline anyway it's an empty move.The_Taxman said:
If it means so much to Bone, why does he not resign the whip in protest? I don't think the Brexit supporting MPs have been squeezed hard enough as none are willing to walk away from the party and if they do Boris becoming PM diminishes...Scott_P said:0 -
Latest: leaders who have spoken favour March or December, but Macron has yet to speak.0
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Judging by the usual Brexit related twitter feeds tonight, everyone, whatever side, is totally losing the plot.
FFS calm down.0 -
1. Making it clear she herself is a roadblock to getting the WA passed because Labour won't sign up knowing there will be a new Con leader who might tear everything up after she's departed._Anazina_ said:
2. Threaten a mass resignation if she doesn't stand down as Con leader. We already know Hancock, Hunt and Javid are in campaign mode... For anyone who wants to succeed Theresa it's in their interests to push her under the proverbial bus once she's secured the extension.0 -
I have this awful feeling - and I really hope I am wrong - that the EU will just say to us: "no. You cannot make up your mind. You cannot get anything through Parliament. If we give you more time you will just waste it. We cannot risk you electing MEPs to our Parliament who will behave like incontinent children and try and smash the place up. If you cannot agree to the WA, you will have to exit without a deal or Revoke, both of which are entirely in your power.anothernick said:
At my work management meeting on Tuesday we agreed to drop Brexit risks from one of the 5 biggest risks facing the business down to 20th on the grounds that it was not imminent and might never happen. Nobody dissented from that analysis._Anazina_ said:Reporting here from planet normal (I’m with the in laws). Seems to me that most nonpolitical people have now largely forgotten about Brexit and assume it’s no longer happening.
Anecdotal, obviously,
If you revoke we will welcome you back with open arms. The EU is better with you in it. We think it is better for you too. But we are not going to carry on indulging this nonsense where you expect us to keep pulling you out of the hole you keep on digging yourself into. Take back control, please. And make a decision. You have until the Easter weekend to make up your mind."
I hope I'm wrong.
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Is it not just plain rude to turn down an hon. doctorate? Everyone knows it has no academic bearing.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think old Fathead takes the biscuit, after accepting an Honorary Doctorate of Business from Plymouth University....he has never run a business and Plymouth Poly shakes head..._Anazina_ said:Two public schoolboys arguing over which of them went to a ‘better’ school. Even PB’s falsely modest Cowley Tech / Fen Poly wank is more bearable.
Thanks but no thanks, your university is shit, is not a good look surely?0 -
Slander and "liable"? What school did he go to?HYUFD said:0 -
Perhaps May is bipolar. I won't carry on as leader. Yes I will. I couldn't continue as PM if a delay past 30th June. I am continuing.
If May stated she saw the sun rise in the East I'd question it...0 -
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She could just tell them to go fuck themselvesGIN1138 said:
1. Making it clear she herself is a roadblock to getting the WA passed because Labour won't sign up knowing there will be a new Con leader who might tear everything up after she's departed._Anazina_ said:
2. Threaten a mass resignation if she doesn't stand down as Con leader. We already know Hancock, Hunt and Javid are in campaign mode... For anyone who wants to succeed Theresa it's in their interests to push her under the proverbial bus once she's secured the extension.0 -
I hope you're right. It would concentrate what convention obliges us to call MP's minds.Cyclefree said:
I have this awful feeling - and I really hope I am wrong - that the EU will just say to us: "no. You cannot make up your mind. You cannot get anything through Parliament. If we give you more time you will just waste it. We cannot risk you electing MEPs to our Parliament who will behave like incontinent children and try and smash the place up. If you cannot agree to the WA, you will have to exit without a deal or Revoke, both of which are entirely in your power.anothernick said:
At my work management meeting on Tuesday we agreed to drop Brexit risks from one of the 5 biggest risks facing the business down to 20th on the grounds that it was not imminent and might never happen. Nobody dissented from that analysis._Anazina_ said:Reporting here from planet normal (I’m with the in laws). Seems to me that most nonpolitical people have now largely forgotten about Brexit and assume it’s no longer happening.
Anecdotal, obviously,
If you revoke we will welcome you back with open arms. The EU is better with you in it. We think it is better for you too. But we are not going to carry on indulging this nonsense where you expect us to keep pulling you out of the hole you keep on digging yourself into. Take back control, please. And make a decision. You have until the Easter weekend to make up your mind."
I hope I'm wrong.0 -
I liked this.rottenborough said:Judging by the usual Brexit related twitter feeds tonight, everyone, whatever side, is totally losing the plot.
FFS calm down.
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Damn the length of time complex fraud investigations take.rottenborough said:0 -
She could... But she won't._Anazina_ said:
She could just tell them to go fuck themselvesGIN1138 said:
1. Making it clear she herself is a roadblock to getting the WA passed because Labour won't sign up knowing there will be a new Con leader who might tear everything up after she's departed._Anazina_ said:
2. Threaten a mass resignation if she doesn't stand down as Con leader. We already know Hancock, Hunt and Javid are in campaign mode... For anyone who wants to succeed Theresa it's in their interests to push her under the proverbial bus once she's secured the extension.
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Well, technically it doesn't. It comes into view over the eastern curve of the earth due to planetary rotation.RochdalePioneers said:Perhaps May is bipolar. I won't carry on as leader. Yes I will. I couldn't continue as PM if a delay past 30th June. I am continuing.
If May stated she saw the sun rise in the East I'd question it...0 -
And of course every MPs vote to revoke, to not revoke and for No Deal or for abstention would be recorded for all their constituents and party members to seeSean_F said:
I hope you're right. It would concentrate what convention obliges us to call MP's minds.Cyclefree said:
I have this awful feeling - and I really hope I am wrong - that the EU will just say to us: "no. You cannot make up your mind. You cannot get anything through Parliament. If we give you more time you will just waste it. We cannot risk you electing MEPs to our Parliament who will behave like incontinent children and try and smash the place up. If you cannot agree to the WA, you will have to exit without a deal or Revoke, both of which are entirely in your power.anothernick said:
At my work management meeting on Tuesday we agreed to drop Brexit risks from one of the 5 biggest risks facing the business down to 20th on the grounds that it was not imminent and might never happen. Nobody dissented from that analysis._Anazina_ said:Reporting here from planet normal (I’m with the in laws). Seems to me that most nonpolitical people have now largely forgotten about Brexit and assume it’s no longer happening.
Anecdotal, obviously,
If you revoke we will welcome you back with open arms. The EU is better with you in it. We think it is better for you too. But we are not going to carry on indulging this nonsense where you expect us to keep pulling you out of the hole you keep on digging yourself into. Take back control, please. And make a decision. You have until the Easter weekend to make up your mind."
I hope I'm wrong.0 -
I'm listening to "The Prime Minister's: David Lloyd George" on BBC Sounds. Gordon Brown is in it briefly. Damn, I do miss him (Brown, not DLG). Although I acknowledge the well-readoned objections to him by @Richard_Nabavi and others...
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That's not what bipolar is. That's more split personality disorderRochdalePioneers said:Perhaps May is bipolar. I won't carry on as leader. Yes I will. I couldn't continue as PM if a delay past 30th June. I am continuing.
If May stated she saw the sun rise in the East I'd question it...0 -
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Indeed so. Particularly the alleged 'reports' from within the EU27 discussions. I mean, how plausible is it that Sky and the Irish Times have moles surreptitiously WhatsApping them from the dinner table?rottenborough said:Judging by the usual Brexit related twitter feeds tonight, everyone, whatever side, is totally losing the plot.
FFS calm down.0 -
Yes this is quite a likely scenario I think. Up to now I have been expecting a second referendum but I am beginning to wonder if there will just be an endless series of extensions and eventually A50 will be revoked because everyone will have forgotten what was the point of leaving in the first place.MikeL said:
It's going to be interesting to see how Brexit features in the news media going forward.anothernick said:
At my work management meeting on Tuesday we agreed to drop Brexit risks from one of the 5 biggest risks facing the business down to 20th on the grounds that it was not imminent and might never happen. Nobody dissented from that analysis._Anazina_ said:Reporting here from planet normal (I’m with the in laws). Seems to me that most nonpolitical people have now largely forgotten about Brexit and assume it’s no longer happening.
Anecdotal, obviously,
For a long time now, it's been the number 1 story on TV news almost every single day.
But TV news editors must be conscious that people have short attention spans and will be getting bored.
If there's a short extension then of course it'll remain prominent. But if there's a long extension I do wonder whether TV news editors are going to dramatically reduce its prominence - and if they do then to some extent it may become a self-fulfilling prophecy - less publicity = people lose interest = people move onto other things = politicians move onto other things. And it's then less of a stretch to just not bother - forget it and abandon it.0 -
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"There is no point in settling the precedence between a louse and flea" sums up most conflicts on Twitter.rottenborough said:0 -
It depends on your frame of reference...ydoethur said:
Well, technically it doesn't. It comes into view over the eastern curve of the earth due to planetary rotation.RochdalePioneers said:Perhaps May is bipolar. I won't carry on as leader. Yes I will. I couldn't continue as PM if a delay past 30th June. I am continuing.
If May stated she saw the sun rise in the East I'd question it...
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Has Macron got the guts to veto and push us out the door?HYUFD said:0 -
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Are they going to roll in a golden desk in for him?HYUFD said:0 -
Isn’t it just honest to turn down an honorary degree?rottenborough said:
Is it not just plain rude to turn down an hon. doctorate? Everyone knows it has no academic bearing.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think old Fathead takes the biscuit, after accepting an Honorary Doctorate of Business from Plymouth University....he has never run a business and Plymouth Poly shakes head..._Anazina_ said:Two public schoolboys arguing over which of them went to a ‘better’ school. Even PB’s falsely modest Cowley Tech / Fen Poly wank is more bearable.
Thanks but no thanks, your university is shit, is not a good look surely?
I mean, you didn’t do the work ?
There is a case for retaining honorary degrees for people who may have missed out on formal education but nonetheless have carried out exceptional work (e.g., amateur astronomers or amateur natural historians, etc).
But, there is no real reason for picking some of the great and good and rewarding them with an “honorary degree”.0 -
I agree that she probably won’t put it in quite those words!GIN1138 said:
She could... But she won't._Anazina_ said:
She could just tell them to go fuck themselvesGIN1138 said:
1. Making it clear she herself is a roadblock to getting the WA passed because Labour won't sign up knowing there will be a new Con leader who might tear everything up after she's departed._Anazina_ said:
2. Threaten a mass resignation if she doesn't stand down as Con leader. We already know Hancock, Hunt and Javid are in campaign mode... For anyone who wants to succeed Theresa it's in their interests to push her under the proverbial bus once she's secured the extension.0 -
MikeL said:
If there's a short extension then of course it'll remain prominent. But if there's a long extension I do wonder whether TV news editors are going to dramatically reduce its prominence - and if they do then to some extent it may become a self-fulfilling prophecy - less publicity = people lose interest = people move onto other things = politicians move onto other things. And it's then less of a stretch to just not bother - forget it and abandon it.
The bandwagon will roll on to a Con leadership election (won't that be fun) EU and local elections and eventually a general election, IMO.
Brexit will remain the dark cloud hanging over all of it. 0 -
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If Macron says it should be no deal or revoke by Friday, the WA will be through every stage by 10am tomorrow.Richard_Nabavi said:0 -
If he's the only one, no. No matter how much he might be tempted why take an action against the wishes of all the others, even though it is possible?GIN1138 said:
Has Macron got the guts to veto and push us out the door?HYUFD said:
If they'd only pass her damn deal she'd put us out of our misery and announce a departure, I am sure.RochdalePioneers said:Perhaps May is bipolar. I won't carry on as leader. Yes I will. I couldn't continue as PM if a delay past 30th June. I am continuing.
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Why not? Our Cabinet ministers livestream their meetings.Richard_Nabavi said:
Indeed so. Particularly the alleged 'reports' from within the EU27 discussions. I mean, how plausible is it that Sky and the Irish Times have moles surreptitiously WhatsApping them from the dinner table?rottenborough said:Judging by the usual Brexit related twitter feeds tonight, everyone, whatever side, is totally losing the plot.
FFS calm down.0 -
I hope Macron forces the issue, otherwise it will never end.ydoethur said:
If Macron says it should be no deal or revoke by Friday, the WA will be through every stage by 10am tomorrow.Richard_Nabavi said:0 -
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Good point! I'm showing my age.Sean_F said:
Why not? Our Cabinet ministers livestream their meetings.Richard_Nabavi said:
Indeed so. Particularly the alleged 'reports' from within the EU27 discussions. I mean, how plausible is it that Sky and the Irish Times have moles surreptitiously WhatsApping them from the dinner table?rottenborough said:Judging by the usual Brexit related twitter feeds tonight, everyone, whatever side, is totally losing the plot.
FFS calm down.0 -
Breaking: Macron arguing strongly for June0
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Another Richard.
Indeed. As I suggest upthread I think that narrative has already begun. Hence why the Brexiteers said, over and over again, “we’re leaving on 29 March, get over it,” and “sorry, we are out on 29 March, you lost”. Looking back on this forum alone shows how clear they were about that.
Once a ‘deadline’ slips...0 -
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Given that the Remainers were jubilant about winning Cooper-Letwin by one vote, it would be hilarious if the extension was refused and we headed to No Deal by just the one vote of Macron....HYUFD said:0 -
The point is all degrees are technically honorary and awarded in recognition of something the university values. That might be a programme of study, or it might be other achievements outside. The 'PhD by publication,' where a body of research is accepted rather than a thesis, is another example.YBarddCwsc said:
Isn’t it just honest to turn down an honorary degree?rottenborough said:
Is it not just plain rude to turn down an hon. doctorate? Everyone knows it has no academic bearing.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think old Fathead takes the biscuit, after accepting an Honorary Doctorate of Business from Plymouth University....he has never run a business and Plymouth Poly shakes head..._Anazina_ said:Two public schoolboys arguing over which of them went to a ‘better’ school. Even PB’s falsely modest Cowley Tech / Fen Poly wank is more bearable.
Thanks but no thanks, your university is shit, is not a good look surely?
I mean, you didn’t do the work ?
There is a case for retaining honorary degrees for people who may have missed out on formal education but nonetheless have carried out exceptional work (e.g., amateur astronomers or amateur natural historians, etc).
But, there is no real reason for picking some of the great and good and rewarding them with an “honorary degree”.
The difference with an honorary degree, as we call them, is that they don't count towards career advancement elsewhere and cannot be used except to decide status on formal occasions at the awarding university.0 -
Not if their phones are taken by the Cabinet Sec. at the door.Richard_Nabavi said:
Good point! I'm showing my age.Sean_F said:
Why not? Our Cabinet ministers livestream their meetings.Richard_Nabavi said:
Indeed so. Particularly the alleged 'reports' from within the EU27 discussions. I mean, how plausible is it that Sky and the Irish Times have moles surreptitiously WhatsApping them from the dinner table?rottenborough said:Judging by the usual Brexit related twitter feeds tonight, everyone, whatever side, is totally losing the plot.
FFS calm down.0 -
May sets herself to stay until 2020:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/may-brexit-extension-delay-prime-minister-resign-2020-a8864286.html
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You can understand Macron position as we all know another year delay and we will all be here in 11 months and 20 days time arguing the same stuff.0
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PR for the the awards day.YBarddCwsc said:
Isn’t it just honest to turn down an honorary degree?rottenborough said:
Is it not just plain rude to turn down an hon. doctorate? Everyone knows it has no academic bearing.FrancisUrquhart said:
I think old Fathead takes the biscuit, after accepting an Honorary Doctorate of Business from Plymouth University....he has never run a business and Plymouth Poly shakes head..._Anazina_ said:Two public schoolboys arguing over which of them went to a ‘better’ school. Even PB’s falsely modest Cowley Tech / Fen Poly wank is more bearable.
Thanks but no thanks, your university is shit, is not a good look surely?
I mean, you didn’t do the work ?
There is a case for retaining honorary degrees for people who may have missed out on formal education but nonetheless have carried out exceptional work (e.g., amateur astronomers or amateur natural historians, etc).
But, there is no real reason for picking some of the great and good and rewarding them with an “honorary degree”.0 -
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Hilarious?MarqueeMark said:
Given that the Remainers were jubilant about winning Cooper-Letwin by one vote, it would be hilarious if the extension was refused and we headed to No Deal by just the one vote of Macron....HYUFD said:0 -
The campaigners' reports from the doorsteps do rather suggest otherwise.anothernick said:
Yes this is quite a likely scenario I think. Up to now I have been expecting a second referendum but I am beginning to wonder if there will just be an endless series of extensions and eventually A50 will be revoked because everyone will have forgotten what was the point of leaving in the first place.MikeL said:
It's going to be interesting to see how Brexit features in the news media going forward.anothernick said:
At my work management meeting on Tuesday we agreed to drop Brexit risks from one of the 5 biggest risks facing the business down to 20th on the grounds that it was not imminent and might never happen. Nobody dissented from that analysis._Anazina_ said:Reporting here from planet normal (I’m with the in laws). Seems to me that most nonpolitical people have now largely forgotten about Brexit and assume it’s no longer happening.
Anecdotal, obviously,
For a long time now, it's been the number 1 story on TV news almost every single day.
But TV news editors must be conscious that people have short attention spans and will be getting bored.
If there's a short extension then of course it'll remain prominent. But if there's a long extension I do wonder whether TV news editors are going to dramatically reduce its prominence - and if they do then to some extent it may become a self-fulfilling prophecy - less publicity = people lose interest = people move onto other things = politicians move onto other things. And it's then less of a stretch to just not bother - forget it and abandon it.0 -
Macron says June. Everyone else says December or March.
So it's going to be September isn't it?
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Miaow, sir, I felt your Claus there.Benpointer said:
I never get a chance to take it off!IanB2 said:Just keep your coat on.
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Westminster and Christ Church certainly beats Eton and Trinity (Trinity Oxford at least; Trinity Cambridge would tie).FrancisUrquhart said:
Is Westminster a better school than Eton? Discuss....HYUFD said:0 -
The fact that discussions are still going suggests that they are going better than I would have expected.rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/PatLeahyIT/status/1116076559457247233
I hear the flap of white coats.0 -
UCS and Exeter beats both.blueblue said:
Westminster and Christ Church certainly beats Eton and Trinity (Trinity Oxford at least; Trinity Cambridge would tie).FrancisUrquhart said:
Is Westminster a better school than Eton? Discuss....HYUFD said:0 -
May is like a limpet the more you tug at it the firmer it grips0
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She'll be gone by December.IanB2 said:May sets herself to stay until 2020:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/may-brexit-extension-delay-prime-minister-resign-2020-a8864286.html0 -
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Not really. Neither can afford to look like the one walking away.glw said:
The fact that discussions are still going suggests that they are going better than I would have expected.rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/PatLeahyIT/status/1116076559457247233
I hear the flap of white coats.0 -
What you want is a grubby comp in a nondescript midlands town. Unbeatable.blueblue said:
Westminster and Christ Church certainly beats Eton and Trinity (Trinity Oxford at least; Trinity Cambridge would tie).FrancisUrquhart said:
Is Westminster a better school than Eton? Discuss....HYUFD said:0 -
Peter Bone says April 15th !!!GIN1138 said:Macron says June. Everyone else says December or March.
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The famous “chemist” Elena Ceausescu amassed over a hundred honorary degrees and honorary professorships.
She was honoured by the UK’s Royal Institute for Chemistry and the University of London for her “distinguished scientific achievements in macromolecular chemistry”.
I think I rest my case. It is better to get rid of these “honours” which demean the giver, but pander to the vanity of the recipient.
There is no need for honorary degrees or honorary professorships or honorary anything.0 -
She could well have resigned at Con leader by the weekend.MarqueeMark said:
She'll be gone by December.IanB2 said:May sets herself to stay until 2020:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/may-brexit-extension-delay-prime-minister-resign-2020-a8864286.html0 -
Which December !!!!!!!MarqueeMark said:
She'll be gone by December.IanB2 said:May sets herself to stay until 2020:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/may-brexit-extension-delay-prime-minister-resign-2020-a8864286.html0 -
I suspect Mark Francois is still holding out for March 29th!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Peter Bone says April 15th !!!GIN1138 said:Macron says June. Everyone else says December or March.
So it's going to be September isn't it? 0
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