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Genuine question; if the date on the article 50 legislation can be changed by SI, what else can be changed in this way?

Nothing. Has. Changed.

https://twitter.com/peston/status/1109902703411507203?s=21

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

President Trump's campaign "did not conspire" with Russia during 2016 election, Robert Mueller's report says

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

Sat on it for 6 years, she must have been bursting to share it!

A_View_From_Cumbria5 said:

ExpatMalaysia said:

Benpointer said:
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Yes, well, I think it highly likely now that we will be participating in the EU elections.

Could be interesting if the #PeoplesVote organisation flex their muscles in any UK EU elections; no party won 5 million votes in the last election.


What are the odds of the UK participating in Euro elections ? Is there a Market up for that?

Even if they are held I'm not sure there is a People's Vote party that is eligible to stand. The Brexit Party would stand and would be likely to be very successful. The split of the pro-remain vote will cost them dearly in the De Hondt system.

Indeed. My thinking was not that they would stand but rather promote any parties who propose a 2nd referendum. Labour would come under intense pressure to include such a commitment in their manifesto.

Re "the split of the pro-remain vote will cost them dearly in the De Hondt system" won't that affect the pro-leave (anti-2ndref) vote too?

FrancisUrquhart said:

President Trump's campaign "did not conspire" with Russia during 2016 election, Robert Mueller's report says

I never thought it had done.

AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

Toms said:

AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

(((Rep. Nadler)))
@RepJerryNadler

“The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”

Uh oh.

From this I'm not sure what Nadler means, but I think Mueller's brief was the limited one of looking for possible collaboration with Russia to influence the election, and nothing else---correct me please if I err---so leaving much scope for other law-breaking.

This is on the basis of the text in Barr's letter to Congress. Worth noting they do not have the full report, and that Mueller has handed lots of stuff off to state prosecutors e.g. SDNY to continue investigations on other 'issues'.

I wouldn't be in the least surprised if we find more attempts of "self enrichment" have been discovered.

NickPalmer said:

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

Sounds distressing but not somthing to concern the public.

'I slapped him because I felt threatened'; I'm not sure this is a good justification. I've heard similar reasons given for carrying knives and other weapons.

FrancisUrquhart said:

AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

Toms said:

AramintaMoonbeamQC said:

(((Rep. Nadler)))
@RepJerryNadler

“The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”

Uh oh.

From this I'm not sure what Nadler means, but I think Mueller's brief was the limited one of looking for possible collaboration with Russia to influence the election, and nothing else---correct me please if I err---so leaving much scope for other law-breaking.

This is on the basis of the text in Barr's letter to Congress. Worth noting they do not have the full report, and that Mueller has handed lots of stuff off to state prosecutors e.g. SDNY to continue investigations on other 'issues'.

I wouldn't be in the least surprised if we find more attempts of "self enrichment" have been discovered.

From what I've read, the SDNY are covering potential financial wrongdoings (e.g. the activities of the Foundation), and worth remembering presidential pardons only cover federal offences, so could be much more fun ahead.

stodge said:

isam said:

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

Sat on it for 6 years, she must have been bursting to share it!

Massive non-story there. A little bit of mischief making at most - you'd almost think some were scared of Moran winning the LD leadership election. To be fair though it will be small potatoes compared to the Conservative leadership race.

Doesn't bother me at all, but in todays world of equal rights etc, you have to wonder how it would be received had it been a man admitting to slapping a female partner, and why it should be any different

TudorRose said:

Genuine question; if the date on the article 50 legislation can be changed by SI, what else can be changed in this way?

I’m not sure how general your question is but in my view it is a huge issue. The EU Withdrawal Act gives Ministers broad delegated powers under SI’s to amend and repeal primary legislation. The argument is that there is so much to unpick after 45 years that there is no time to repeal and amend everything through primary legislation. It may not be practical but I would like these Henry VIII powers to be abolished or at least severely limited in all cases. It is not just this Act but the huge scope of EU law that has built up over 45 years makes it the worst culprit. Brexit has resulted in this unholy power grab by the Executive and I think some of what we are seeing is a reaction by the Legislature.

It is one of the main reasons why, although I think Brexit was possible, it was not possible in the time given. The appropriate legislation should have been proposed and passed, with suspended implementation pending the outcome, and a set of proposals formulated and published, before A50 was triggered. It was at least a 5 and maybe 10 year process end to end IMHO but Brexiteers were not prepared to wait that long.

TudorRose said:

NickPalmer said:

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

Sounds distressing but not somthing to concern the public.

'I slapped him because I felt threatened'; I'm not sure this is a good justification. I've heard similar reasons given for carrying knives and other weapons.

Slap versus 'knives and other weapons'

Hmmm...

Non-story imo.

CNN contributors still pushing trump been up to no good...legal bar very high Yadda yadda yadda....congress can still impeach....AG dodgy decision.

Benpointer said:

TudorRose said:

NickPalmer said:

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

Sounds distressing but not somthing to concern the public.

'I slapped him because I felt threatened'; I'm not sure this is a good justification. I've heard similar reasons given for carrying knives and other weapons.

Slap versus 'knives and other weapons'

Hmmm...

Non-story imo.

You're probably right, but caveat emptor for anyone in that betting market I think.

TudorRose said:

Benpointer said:

TudorRose said:

NickPalmer said:

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

Sounds distressing but not somthing to concern the public.

'I slapped him because I felt threatened'; I'm not sure this is a good justification. I've heard similar reasons given for carrying knives and other weapons.

Slap versus 'knives and other weapons'

Hmmm...

Non-story imo.

You're probably right, but caveat emptor for anyone in that betting market I think.

Fair point. And as stated up-thread (or is that down-thread?) releasing this after 6 years on the People's March day takes the gloss off the 'brave for being honest' aspect.

Foxy said:

isam said:

stodge said:

isam said:

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

Sat on it for 6 years, she must have been bursting to share it!

Massive non-story there. A little bit of mischief making at most - you'd almost think some were scared of Moran winning the LD leadership election. To be fair though it will be small potatoes compared to the Conservative leadership race.

Doesn't bother me at all, but in todays world of equal rights etc, you have to wonder how it would be received had it been a man admitting to slapping a female partner, and why it should be any different

It would depend on context and physical capability. Was Layla right to feel physically threatened by her Ex? If so then it is self defence (not sure what Scottish Law says on this).

I reckon she had him down on his knees, begging her darling please to stop

TheScreamingEagles said:

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

You call that a scandal?

I remember when Lib Dem leadership candidates were exposed for [moderating] all over male prostitutes or ringing up gay chat lines.

I miss the good old days.

The real story here is that it confirms her interest in standing.

NickPalmer said:

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

Sounds distressing but not somthing to concern the public.

I’m sure you’d feel the same if it were Boris

CNN aren't willing to accept this report and opening speculating on what nudge nudge wink wink stuff has gone on. They are in dangerous birther type territory.

Can they not see they are actually helping trump by doing this as it plays into his fake news schtick.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

You call that a scandal?

I remember when Lib Dem leadership candidates were exposed for [moderating] all over male prostitutes or ringing up gay chat lines.

I miss the good old days.

Turns out their best hope is a bit of a slapper

TudorRose said:

DougSeal said:

TudorRose said:

Genuine question; if the date on the article 50 legislation can be changed by SI, what else can be changed in this way?

I’m not sure how general your question is but in my view it is a huge issue. The EU Withdrawal Act gives Ministers broad delegated powers under SI’s to amend and repeal primary legislation. The argument is that there is so much to unpick after 45 years that there is no time to repeal and amend everything through primary legislation. It may not be practical but I would like these Henry VIII powers to be abolished or at least severely limited in all cases. It is not just this Act but the huge scope of EU law that has built up over 45 years makes it the worst culprit. Brexit has resulted in this unholy power grab by the Executive and I think some of what we are seeing is a reaction by the Legislature.

It is one of the main reasons why, although I think Brexit was possible, it was not possible in the time given. The appropriate legislation should have been proposed and passed, with suspended implementation pending the outcome, and a set of proposals formulated and published, before A50 was triggered. It was at least a 5 and maybe 10 year process end to end IMHO but Brexiteers were not prepared to wait that long.

Thank you. My question was probably less broad; could an SI be used to change anything else on the A50 legislation, might have been better wording.

The answer is yes. Just about anything. Do read section 8 at your pleasure -

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2018/16/section/8/enacted

Benpointer said:

A_View_From_Cumbria5 said:

ExpatMalaysia said:

Benpointer said:
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Yes, well, I think it highly likely now that we will be participating in the EU elections.

Could be interesting if the #PeoplesVote organisation flex their muscles in any UK EU elections; no party won 5 million votes in the last election.


What are the odds of the UK participating in Euro elections ? Is there a Market up for that?

Even if they are held I'm not sure there is a People's Vote party that is eligible to stand. The Brexit Party would stand and would be likely to be very successful. The split of the pro-remain vote will cost them dearly in the De Hondt system.

Indeed. My thinking was not that they would stand but rather promote any parties who propose a 2nd referendum. Labour would come under intense pressure to include such a commitment in their manifesto.

Re "the split of the pro-remain vote will cost them dearly in the De Hondt system" won't that affect the pro-leave (anti-2ndref) vote too?

If we've had a long extension and are therefore having EU elections, it should be on the grounds that either we've committed to a new referendum, or we're negotiating an entire new Deal, or a new General Election has happened or is about to happen, all of which will overwhelm the Euro elections.

Does anyone know : if we sign up to the Boles Common Market 2.0 can we unilaterally exit from it later on as opposed to TM deal where we are tied in with EU

williamglenn said:

DougSeal said:

TudorRose said:

DougSeal said:

TudorRose said:

Genuine question; if the date on the article 50 legislation can be changed by SI, what else can be changed in this way?

I’m not sure how general your question is but in my view it is a huge issue. The EU Withdrawal Act gives Ministers broad delegated powers under SI’s to amend and repeal primary legislation. The argument is that there is so much to unpick after 45 years that there is no time to repeal and amend everything through primary legislation. It may not be practical but I would like these Henry VIII powers to be abolished or at least severely limited in all cases. It is not just this Act but the huge scope of EU law that has built up over 45 years makes it the worst culprit. Brexit has resulted in this unholy power grab by the Executive and I think some of what we are seeing is a reaction by the Legislature.

It is one of the main reasons why, although I think Brexit was possible, it was not possible in the time given. The appropriate legislation should have been proposed and passed, with suspended implementation pending the outcome, and a set of proposals formulated and published, before A50 was triggered. It was at least a 5 and maybe 10 year process end to end IMHO but Brexiteers were not prepared to wait that long.

Thank you. My question was probably less broad; could an SI be used to change anything else on the A50 legislation, might have been better wording.

The answer is yes. Just about anything. Do read section 8 at your pleasure -

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2018/16/section/8/enacted

Once Brexiteers hear about this, they'll want that Act repealed sharpish.

If only someone had given them the chance to read it before they passed it!

TheScreamingEagles said:

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

You call that a scandal?

I remember when Lib Dem leadership candidates were exposed for [moderating] all over male prostitutes or ringing up gay chat lines.

I miss the good old days.

Physical violence v consensual chat lines. Which is worse?

AndyJS said:

What a marvellous resource this page is.

https://www.livefrombrexit.com/petitions/241584

Any anomalies?

Birmingham Ladywood 64.4% Remain and only 9% signed

Central Devon is the highest Leave constituency (50.9% & 14%)
Bradford West is the lowest Remain (53.5% & 5%)

Irish, Scottish and Welsh Remain seats seem to be least interested

Philip_Thompson said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

You call that a scandal?

I remember when Lib Dem leadership candidates were exposed for [moderating] all over male prostitutes or ringing up gay chat lines.

I miss the good old days.

Physical violence v consensual chat lines. Which is worse?

The police investigated it and said she did nothing wrong, her ex corroborated her events.

But you appear to know better.

According to Barr's letter, Mueller's team found two main Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US election, both by Russian groups and the Russian government:

"Attempts by a Russian organisation, the Internet Research Agency, to conduct disinformation and social media operations in the United States designed to sow social discord, eventually with the aim of interfering with the election."

"Russian government's efforts to conduct computer hacking operations designed to gather and disseminate information to influence the election...Russian government actors successfully hacked into computers and obtained emails from persons affiliated with the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party organisations and publicly disseminated those materials through various intermediaries, including WikiLeaks."

I would have thought Layla Moran would become more popular after this story.

Tough woman standing up for herself . Go Layla !

MarqueeMark said:

TudorRose said:

NickPalmer said:

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

Sounds distressing but not somthing to concern the public.

'I slapped him because I felt threatened'; I'm not sure this is a good justification. I've heard similar reasons given for carrying knives and other weapons.

I have no dog in the LibDems leadership fight.

Didn't know they were bringing that in as well

No one should be slapping, or physically attacking anyone else under any circumstances, out with the sporting arena.
Slapping because you feel threatened is a poor excuse.
I felt under threat of physical violence, so I used physical violence to de-escalate. Would not be acceptable in any workplace. Instant dismissal.
Should not be in a domestic setting either.
Shows poor self control, at the very least.

I appear to have been blocked by David Lammy.

https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/1109900150858752000

isam said:

AndyJS said:

What a marvellous resource this page is.

https://www.livefrombrexit.com/petitions/241584

Any anomalies?

Birmingham Ladywood 64.4% Remain and only 9% signed

Central Devon is the highest Leave constituency (50.9% & 14%)
Bradford West is the lowest Remain (53.5% & 5%)

Irish, Scottish and Welsh Remain seats seem to be least interested

That resource will be very useful for betting on the next GE or (shudder) EU ref...

AlastairMeeks said:

The Democrats would be well-advised to let thoughts of impeachment drop. Robert Mueller’s thoroughness is well-established. They should accept his conclusions.

They should, but they won't. They've all got Trump derangement syndrome and can't let go. Trump is going to ride this wave until 2020.

TheScreamingEagles said:

I appear to have been blocked by David Lammy.

https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/1109900150858752000

Treat it as a compliment? Although outsmarting him doesn’t appear to require you to be the new Oscar Wilde.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Philip_Thompson said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

You call that a scandal?

I remember when Lib Dem leadership candidates were exposed for [moderating] all over male prostitutes or ringing up gay chat lines.

I miss the good old days.

Physical violence v consensual chat lines. Which is worse?

The police investigated it and said she did nothing wrong, her ex corroborated her events.

But you appear to know better.

It is the image that this leaves.

I am not interested in the lib dems leadership but I do not think this is a helpful intervention

So like Harriet Harman you believe in the court of public opinion as opposed to the rule of law?

dixiedean said:

No one should be slapping, or physically attacking anyone else under any circumstances, out with the sporting arena.
Slapping because you feel threatened is a poor excuse.
I felt under threat of physical violence, so I used physical violence to de-escalate. Would not be acceptable in any workplace. Instant dismissal.
Should not be in a domestic setting either.
Shows poor self control, at the very least.

Agree especially over self control

Big_G_NorthWales said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Philip_Thompson said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

You call that a scandal?

I remember when Lib Dem leadership candidates were exposed for [moderating] all over male prostitutes or ringing up gay chat lines.

I miss the good old days.

Physical violence v consensual chat lines. Which is worse?

The police investigated it and said she did nothing wrong, her ex corroborated her events.

But you appear to know better.

It is the image that this leaves.

I am not interested in the lib dems leadership but I do not think this is a helpful intervention

I'm old fashioned enough to think that 'girl slaps bloke' isn't a story but 'bloke slaps girl' is. However she needs to get this bit of rubbish out before someone else does.

TheScreamingEagles said:

I appear to have been blocked by David Lammy.

https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/1109900150858752000

My favourite political clip of the last few years

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RCtX03pT8Wc

Big_G_NorthWales said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Philip_Thompson said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

You call that a scandal?

I remember when Lib Dem leadership candidates were exposed for [moderating] all over male prostitutes or ringing up gay chat lines.

I miss the good old days.

Physical violence v consensual chat lines. Which is worse?

The police investigated it and said she did nothing wrong, her ex corroborated her events.

But you appear to know better.

It is the image that this leaves.

I am not interested in the lib dems leadership but I do not think this is a helpful intervention

Really . It’s not like she beat him to a pulp . And a slap it’s not like she punched him . Of course if it had been a man slapping his wife it would be different . But I like Layla Moran and this shouldn’t harm her chances . Indeed this could play well for her , she’s tough and doesn’t take any crap .

Philip_Thompson said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

You call that a scandal?

I remember when Lib Dem leadership candidates were exposed for [moderating] all over male prostitutes or ringing up gay chat lines.

I miss the good old days.

Physical violence v consensual chat lines. Which is worse?

Thought the issue with Simon Hughes was hypocrisy. He ran against Peter Tatchell with the slogan "The straight choice."

ydoethur said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Philip_Thompson said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

You call that a scandal?

I remember when Lib Dem leadership candidates were exposed for [moderating] all over male prostitutes or ringing up gay chat lines.

I miss the good old days.

Physical violence v consensual chat lines. Which is worse?

The police investigated it and said she did nothing wrong, her ex corroborated her events.

But you appear to know better.

I think Mr Eagles there is a difference between 'she did nothing wrong' and 'she faced no criminal charges.'

So I can use that approach on Trump?

nico67 said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Philip_Thompson said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

You call that a scandal?

I remember when Lib Dem leadership candidates were exposed for [moderating] all over male prostitutes or ringing up gay chat lines.

I miss the good old days.

Physical violence v consensual chat lines. Which is worse?

The police investigated it and said she did nothing wrong, her ex corroborated her events.

But you appear to know better.

It is the image that this leaves.

I am not interested in the lib dems leadership but I do not think this is a helpful intervention

Really . It’s not like she beat him to a pulp . And a slap it’s not like she punched him . Of course if it had been a man slapping his wife it would be different . But I like Layla Moran and this shouldn’t harm her chances . Indeed this could play well for her , she’s tough and doesn’t take any crap .

So if you like her she gets a pass for slapping a man but, what if he had slapped her

isam said:

AndyJS said:

What a marvellous resource this page is.

https://www.livefrombrexit.com/petitions/241584

Any anomalies?

Birmingham Ladywood 64.4% Remain and only 9% signed

Central Devon is the highest Leave constituency (50.9% & 14%)
Bradford West is the lowest Remain (53.5% & 5%)

Irish, Scottish and Welsh Remain seats seem to be least interested

Remain seats with large ethnic minority populations, like Bradford West, Harrow East and Edmonton, have not been signing the petition with the enthusiasm one might have expected. Conversely, seats that narrowly voted Leave with very middle-class profiles, like Chichester, Wealden and Devon Central, have been signing it in surprisingly large numbers. The simple conclusion may be that middle-class people are a lot more likely to go to the trouble of signing a petition like this.

dixiedean said:

Philip_Thompson said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

You call that a scandal?

I remember when Lib Dem leadership candidates were exposed for [moderating] all over male prostitutes or ringing up gay chat lines.

I miss the good old days.

Physical violence v consensual chat lines. Which is worse?

Thought the issue with Simon Hughes was hypocrisy. He ran against Peter Tatchell with the slogan "The straight choice."

No he didn't - that slogan was coined by an independent candidate and former Labour member who ran against Tatchell specifically because he was gay.

Foxy said:

ydoethur said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Ishmael_Z said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

I appear to have been blocked by David Lammy.

https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/1109900150858752000

Console yourself with the thought that he thinks radium was discovered by Marie Antoinette.

I don't think he will better his black smoke comment.

Did he get burned for that?

He is toast now...

But he can brush it all off.

ydoethur said:

Foxy said:

ydoethur said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Ishmael_Z said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

I appear to have been blocked by David Lammy.

https://twitter.com/TSEofPB/status/1109900150858752000

Console yourself with the thought that he thinks radium was discovered by Marie Antoinette.

I don't think he will better his black smoke comment.

Did he get burned for that?

He is toast now...

But he can brush it all off.

Even so, he'll be on the rack soon.

ydoethur said:

dixiedean said:

Philip_Thompson said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Paristonda said:

Has this been shared already on here?
Potential betting implications given she is currently favourite for next leader. It's a very awkward subject and I doubt there is much appetite in the lib dems to have domestic violence as a topic of debate in the same way that a debate over religion vs gay rights overtook Farrons tenure


https://twitter.com/LaylaMoran/status/1109528327453331456?s=09

You call that a scandal?

I remember when Lib Dem leadership candidates were exposed for [moderating] all over male prostitutes or ringing up gay chat lines.

I miss the good old days.

Physical violence v consensual chat lines. Which is worse?

Thought the issue with Simon Hughes was hypocrisy. He ran against Peter Tatchell with the slogan "The straight choice."

No he didn't - that slogan was coined by an independent candidate and former Labour member who ran against Tatchell specifically because he was gay.

In which case what was the problem?