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ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol0
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Or Chope?Philip_Thompson said:
Are we talking Trump, Cummings or Corbyn?AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
Comments on BBC News now - he is utterly deranged.dyedwoolie said:
Lol, he loves a good trade war.notme2 said:Trump has just now on air threatened a trade war with Europe.
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Even if you have money, in tghe US you often have to work longer hours, commute for longer and have half the annual leave compared to comparable work in the UK and Europe.rpjs said:
That’s true about all of the US: it’s a great place to live if you have money.Sean_F said:
California is generally badly run. Its schools are on a par with those of Mississippi, it has almost the highest State taxes in the USA, its infrastructure is falling apart, it's overregulated, and over-unionised.SeanT said:
I follow American news closely. They too have culture wars, and they too have a weird class of people using identity politics to deconstruct their own hardwon freedoms. BUT they have that Constituion. A vital bulwark against the madness. Plus they have a more vibrant economy. Especially in California, where I’d go. Maybe Santa Barbara.Floater said:
You might want to look more closely at American news before making that decision.SeanT said:
If I were 25 years old, I would emigrate tomorrow. Britain is finished. Europe is finished. Stagnation and religious strife await.Floater said:
It isCyclefree said:
An utter disgrace.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Imagine the furore and outrage if another school had caved into pressure from protesters and stopped teaching classes on Islam...SeanT said:This is infinitely depressing. We have lost. We have no backbone. The Enlightenment is over. Now comes the Darkening.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1106196762690314240?s=21
I’d go to America. Where English freedoms and the Enlightenment are still, thank god, protected by that Constitution. And I’d buy lots of guns.
Or I’d go to Asia. The future.
It's great if you've got enough money to ignore these failings.0 -
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Mind you, you've got to hand it to Andrew Moffat, whose teaching program kicked off the protests. He's nothing if not persistent. Looks as if he was involved in an almost identical controversy five years ago:SeanT said:
Do you really think the school would have abandoned these lessons if it was just Christians or Jews complaining? Of course not. And what’s your guess as to the religious complexion of the kids in this school. In Birmingham. Majority Jewish? Welsh evangelicals?Stark_Dawning said:
According to the article, all kinds of God Squadders have got involved.SeanT said:
This is what it’s like when the Muslim population of the country is just 5%. We cower and cringe, and abandon precious freedoms and principles with barely a fight. We already have a de facto blasphemy law - that only protects Islam.Sean_F said:
Imagine what it will be like if and when the Muslim population reaches 10%, or 20%.
Grim.
Christians and Jews have also joined the protests, and on one Friday this month campaigners claimed that 600 of the school’s 750 children did not attend classes after being pulled out by their parents.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gay-teacher-resigns-after-parent-protest-3tp2kxnf25n0 -
I don't think that's cricket.dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
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17.4 million people voted leave but each had a different perception of what "leave" meant.Fenman said:
And you have ascertained what 'the people' voted for? How exactly? 40 years of campaigning has taught me nothing of the sort!Richard_Tyndall said:
No, they are choosing to reject those powers and leave them with the EU. That is not what the people voted for.Fenman said:Life is curious isn't it? Throughout the Referendum campaign Leave said we had to restore the power and sovereignty of Parliament.. Now they are doing just that they hate it.
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Hi Joe, nice to see you on here. I got blocked from UKPR for some reason. Still read all the comments on there.JoeJamesBroughton said:We got into this mess because it was obvious we were afraid to keep No deal on the table. (Properly on the table - using the last 3 years to visibly prepare our ports, infrastructure, tax system, really good practical advice for businesses). A certain amount has been done - should have been more ambitious.
Britain is capable of so much more than this. The country voted to leave. We don't need months or years of asking the EU or Ireland what we can or can't do.
I appreciate the PM's efforts and attention to detail.
Anyway, the law currently says we leave the EU on 29th March.0 -
So we'll soon have loads of people telling Trump to but out of Brexit coz he's a bloody foreigner who shouldn't try to tip the scales, right?williamglenn said:0 -
https://twitter.com/elliotttimes/status/1106214740425089024Sean_F said:
I don't think that's cricket.dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
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they get everywhere....matt said:
Jews run HMG, it appears.Richard_Nabavi said:
'orders from Goldman Sachs' - what a loon.TGOHF said:https://dominiccummings.com/
"The Conservative Party now has almost no intellectual connection to crucial debates about the ecosystem of science, productivity, universities, funding, startups and so on. I know from personal experience that even billionaire entrepreneurs whose donations are vital to the survival of CCHQ cannot get people like Hammond to listen to anything about all this — Hammond’s focus is obeying his orders from Goldman Sachs.
Downing Street is much more interested in protecting corporate looting by large banks and companies and protecting rent-seekers than they are in productivity and entrepreneurs. "0 -
The motion is now the property of the house, any of the signatories can now move......Sean_F said:
I don't think that's cricket.dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
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The ridiculous Yvette has opened pandoras boxSean_F said:
I don't think that's cricket.dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
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The one thing I'm looking forward to, when all this is eventually over, is the end of those irritating protestors who stand behind Simon McCoy/Huw Edwards and scream.
FFS, get a job.0 -
Why is it that I get the genuine impression that practically every person on PB is several magnitudes brighter than practically every MP in Parliament?dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
And that is not me being sarcastic. I believe that the vast majority of people on here, including all those I rant against daily, have a better understanding pf politics, the EU, real life and business than almost everyone sat in the Commons.
We are led by imbeciles.0 -
Is the boyfriend the one in the dress?rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/brinning_/status/1106215145183817728
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Very nice. I don't know many hunters, mind youTOPPING said:
stephenpritchard.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/snaffles-hunting-prints-the-finest-view-in-europe.jpgFenster said:
Ystrad Mynach, South Wales Valleys = Utopiastodge said:Afternoon all
Extraordinary to hear Conservative MPs publicly threatening to vote against their own Government in a VoNC. That suggests internal party order has now collapsed and perhaps the first head on the block should be that of Brandon Lewis. I watched some hapless Government spokesman from the Lords wheeled out to be the cannon fodder to Ken Clarke who naturally treated his argument as though it was something into which his shoe had inadvertently gone.
As for SeanT claiming the end of civilisation has come - maybe but nowhere is perfect. Everywhere has its flaws - all the Tories on here seem to hate California with a healthy passion. I love San Diego and Rancho Mirage but could I live there? No. Mrs Stodge tells me New Zealand is still a decent place - maybe but you won't find Utopia on a map - you might be bale to make a local Utopia for yourself somewhere but that's all.
It is lovely here. We are close enough to Cardiff to be a relatively well-off area; lots of parks and walks and sports facilities. Very friendly and communal, barely any serious crime. A good council; two great primary schools. It's a happy little place.0 -
Yes: but it's really hard to know which actual deaths were due to Volkswagen. We can make estimates of the effect, but an individual death? And this makes individual litigation hard.tlg86 said:
Plenty of people have died because of dieselgate.SeanT said:In other news, this is just TERRIBLE for Boeing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/new-software-in-boeing-737-max-planes-under-scrutinty-after-second-crash/2019/03/13/06716fda-45c7-11e9-90f0-0ccfeec87a61_story.html
They are going to get sued for billions. This is worse than dieselgate. Many people have died.
With Boeing and the 737Max, I think we can work out exactly which deaths are the responsibility of Boeing.
So what do we reckon - $10m/death? That works out at $3bn. A large check, but not one Boeing cannot shrug off.
The biggest question is whether the 737Max remains under a cloud for some time. Ironic, really, that Airbus already has seven year waiting lists for the A320Neo, and therefore won't be able to benefit.0 -
Think yourself lucky we haven't got 650 Alexandria Ocasio-CortezsRichard_Tyndall said:
Why is it that I get the genuine impression that practically every person on PB is several magnitudes brighter than practically every MP in Parliament?dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
And that is not me being sarcastic. I believe that the vast majority of people on here, including all those I rant against daily, have a better understanding pf politics, the EU, real life and business than almost everyone sat in the Commons.
We are led by imbeciles.0 -
FTFYTheScreamingEagles said:
Time to tell the DUP No Deal means an Irish unity referendum.Andrew said:https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1106202908805210112
So again it comes back down to the DUP.
The question then: how many Tory holdouts? 5 remainers, 15 ultra-ERGers? That would mean May needed 15 Labour Ayes.
Oh and Westminster will pass legislation to make same sex marriage legal compulsory in Northern Ireland.
‘Cause the DUP hate any difference between NI and GB.0 -
Fair play to Mr Varadkar, he's done well for himself.rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/brinning_/status/1106215145183817728
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AlastairMeeks said:
Fair play to Mr Varadkar, he's done well for himself.rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/brinning_/status/1106215145183817728
Trolling of the Year award.
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With all due respect to Mr Cummings, and I speak as a former Goldman Sachs employee and an entrepreneur, that is bollocks.TGOHF said:https://dominiccummings.com/
"The Conservative Party now has almost no intellectual connection to crucial debates about the ecosystem of science, productivity, universities, funding, startups and so on. I know from personal experience that even billionaire entrepreneurs whose donations are vital to the survival of CCHQ cannot get people like Hammond to listen to anything about all this — Hammond’s focus is obeying his orders from Goldman Sachs.
Downing Street is much more interested in protecting corporate looting by large banks and companies and protecting rent-seekers than they are in productivity and entrepreneurs. "0 -
I think that the Palace of Westminster is like the hotel in The Shining.Richard_Tyndall said:
Why is it that I get the genuine impression that practically every person on PB is several magnitudes brighter than practically every MP in Parliament?dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
And that is not me being sarcastic. I believe that the vast majority of people on here, including all those I rant against daily, have a better understanding pf politics, the EU, real life and business than almost everyone sat in the Commons.
We are led by imbeciles.0 -
Looks fantastic. Oh and...Fenster said:
Very nice. I don't know many hunters, mind youTOPPING said:
stephenpritchard.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/snaffles-hunting-prints-the-finest-view-in-europe.jpgFenster said:
Ystrad Mynach, South Wales Valleys = Utopiastodge said:Afternoon all
Extraordinary to hear Conservative MPs publicly threatening to vote against their own Government in a VoNC. That suggests internal party order has now collapsed and perhaps the first head on the block should be that of Brandon Lewis. I watched some hapless Government spokesman from the Lords wheeled out to be the cannon fodder to Ken Clarke who naturally treated his argument as though it was something into which his shoe had inadvertently gone.
As for SeanT claiming the end of civilisation has come - maybe but nowhere is perfect. Everywhere has its flaws - all the Tories on here seem to hate California with a healthy passion. I love San Diego and Rancho Mirage but could I live there? No. Mrs Stodge tells me New Zealand is still a decent place - maybe but you won't find Utopia on a map - you might be bale to make a local Utopia for yourself somewhere but that's all.
It is lovely here. We are close enough to Cardiff to be a relatively well-off area; lots of parks and walks and sports facilities. Very friendly and communal, barely any serious crime. A good council; two great primary schools. It's a happy little place.
https://thehuntingoffice.org.uk/ju-directory/63-glamorgan/46-ystrad-taf-fechan-hunt.html
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I have seen nothing in the last couple of years to suggest that "Britain is capable of so much more than this". I'm with SeanT and would be looking to get out if I was younger, as it is I'm retired and may yet do it once the post-Brexit implications of moving to another part of Europe become clearer.JoeJamesBroughton said:We got into this mess because it was obvious we were afraid to keep No deal on the table. (Properly on the table - using the last 3 years to visibly prepare our ports, infrastructure, tax system, really good practical advice for businesses). A certain amount has been done - should have been more ambitious.
Britain is capable of so much more than this. The country voted to leave. We don't need months or years of asking the EU or Ireland what we can or can't do.
I appreciate the PM's efforts and attention to detail.
Anyway, the law currently says we leave the EU on 29th March.
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The quieter ones are probably more intelligent than the rentagobs that love to air their views.Sean_F said:
I think that the Palace of Westminster is like the hotel in The Shining.Richard_Tyndall said:
Why is it that I get the genuine impression that practically every person on PB is several magnitudes brighter than practically every MP in Parliament?dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
And that is not me being sarcastic. I believe that the vast majority of people on here, including all those I rant against daily, have a better understanding pf politics, the EU, real life and business than almost everyone sat in the Commons.
We are led by imbeciles.0 -
Los Angeles is particularly attractive at this time of year. I'm currently having breakfast in The Brentwood Countrymart, sitting about five yards from a selection of excellent artisinal cheeses*. This weekend, we'll go hiking in the Santa Monica mountains, and I may go for a swim in ocean. Next weekend, we're going skiing, which is perfectly simple, due to the fact that the nearest ski resort is just 90 minutes drive away.SeanT said:
In posh parts of California you can get every variety of European cheese plus their own new artisanal stuff, which is nice. Also Californian wines (not quite as good as Aussie, but v pleasant). Plus all those deserts and mountains. The sweet summer sweat. Warm smell of calyptus.Richard_Nabavi said:
Or try eating some of their 'cheese'.Floater said:
You might want to look more closely at American news before making that decision.SeanT said:
If I were 25 years old, I would emigrate tomorrow. Britain is finished. Europe is finished. Stagnation and religious strife await.Floater said:
It isCyclefree said:
An utter disgrace.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Imagine the furore and outrage if another school had caved into pressure from protesters and stopped teaching classes on Islam...SeanT said:This is infinitely depressing. We have lost. We have no backbone. The Enlightenment is over. Now comes the Darkening.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1106196762690314240?s=21
I’d go to America. Where English freedoms and the Enlightenment are still, thank god, protected by that Constitution. And I’d buy lots of guns.
Or I’d go to Asia. The future.
Fuck it, I’m going.
And at the kids school** fundraiser last week there was a basket of weed products - mostly edibles, but some "pre-rolls too" - in the auction.
* The artisinal cheeses are quite eyewateringly expensive.
** Just the local public elementary school0 -
The hotel was in a better state of repair.Sean_F said:
I think that the Palace of Westminster is like the hotel in The Shining.Richard_Tyndall said:
Why is it that I get the genuine impression that practically every person on PB is several magnitudes brighter than practically every MP in Parliament?dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
And that is not me being sarcastic. I believe that the vast majority of people on here, including all those I rant against daily, have a better understanding pf politics, the EU, real life and business than almost everyone sat in the Commons.
We are led by imbeciles.0 -
Really? Every time someone complains about Bercow's choice of amendments we're told they are the rules, suck it up. I think MPs have every right to vote on something, even if the original proposer would rather not go through with it.Sean_F said:
I don't think that's cricket.dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
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Letwin says he has 20 Cons voting for his amendment (ITV).0
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Paul Masterton MP explains his actions last night:
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I daresay you're right.tlg86 said:
Really? Every time someone complains about Bercow's choice of amendments we're told they are the rules, suck it up. I think MPs have every right to vote on something, even if the original proposer would rather not go through with it.Sean_F said:
I don't think that's cricket.dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
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10 mil a life is on on the high side as an average I would say.rcs1000 said:
Yes: but it's really hard to know which actual deaths were due to Volkswagen. We can make estimates of the effect, but an individual death? And this makes individual litigation hard.tlg86 said:
Plenty of people have died because of dieselgate.SeanT said:In other news, this is just TERRIBLE for Boeing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/new-software-in-boeing-737-max-planes-under-scrutinty-after-second-crash/2019/03/13/06716fda-45c7-11e9-90f0-0ccfeec87a61_story.html
They are going to get sued for billions. This is worse than dieselgate. Many people have died.
With Boeing and the 737Max, I think we can work out exactly which deaths are the responsibility of Boeing.
So what do we reckon - $10m/death? That works out at $3bn. A large check, but not one Boeing cannot shrug off.
The biggest question is whether the 737Max remains under a cloud for some time. Ironic, really, that Airbus already has seven year waiting lists for the A320Neo, and therefore won't be able to benefit.
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As noted below Boeing are highly likely to have substantial liability insurance to cover any claims against them.rcs1000 said:
Yes: but it's really hard to know which actual deaths were due to Volkswagen. We can make estimates of the effect, but an individual death? And this makes individual litigation hard.tlg86 said:
Plenty of people have died because of dieselgate.SeanT said:In other news, this is just TERRIBLE for Boeing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/new-software-in-boeing-737-max-planes-under-scrutinty-after-second-crash/2019/03/13/06716fda-45c7-11e9-90f0-0ccfeec87a61_story.html
They are going to get sued for billions. This is worse than dieselgate. Many people have died.
With Boeing and the 737Max, I think we can work out exactly which deaths are the responsibility of Boeing.
So what do we reckon - $10m/death? That works out at $3bn. A large check, but not one Boeing cannot shrug off.
The biggest question is whether the 737Max remains under a cloud for some time. Ironic, really, that Airbus already has seven year waiting lists for the A320Neo, and therefore won't be able to benefit.0 -
They have some talented people and ate very disciplined but there does seem to be some hero worship of them by some in England that ignites that they are still politicians and suffer the same sorts of issues. Are they the best of a bad bunch? I dont know, maybe, but they surely dont deserve hagiographic praise that they getIanB2 said:I wish we had politicians as good as the SNP in England.
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Would anyone want Alex Salmond?kle4 said:
They have some talented people and ate very disciplined but there does seem to be some hero worship of them by some in England that ignites that they are still politicians and suffer the same sorts of issues.IanB2 said:I wish we had politicians as good as the SNP in England.
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Especially as the constant refrain on here is that MPs actually need to decide on something.tlg86 said:
Really? Every time someone complains about Bercow's choice of amendments we're told they are the rules, suck it up. I think MPs have every right to vote on something, even if the original proposer would rather not go through with it.Sean_F said:
I don't think that's cricket.dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
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RobD said:
Also breaking: his keyboard. I'm imagining how furiously that tweet was typed.williamglenn said:
Probably paving the way for saying another Presidential election will be unfair because he's already been elected bigly.0 -
They haven't done it yet. And when the government wins things parliament is still sovereign then yet the losers still claim parliament is not listened to. So in short, a lot of guff is spoken about such things, but parliament is still in control were May to get her deal through itFenman said:Life is curious isn't it? Throughout the Referendum campaign Leave said we had to restore the power and sovereignty of Parliament.. Now they are doing just that they hate it.
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Is even making the threat against party rules?williamglenn said:Chope says he would seriously consider voting with Labour to no confidence the government.
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Absolutely.148grss said:
So we'll soon have loads of people telling Trump to but out of Brexit coz he's a bloody foreigner who shouldn't try to tip the scales, right?williamglenn said:0 -
If its permissible for them to add their names I cannot see the problem. Play procedural games and the other side will too. The ERG I do not like but Starmer and Grieve have been lionised for their use of procedural arcana.tlg86 said:
Really? Every time someone complains about Bercow's choice of amendments we're told they are the rules, suck it up. I think MPs have every right to vote on something, even if the original proposer would rather not go through with it.Sean_F said:
I don't think that's cricket.dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
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Be interesting to see how much they can retrieve:
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I'm going to hell for laughing at that, aren't I...TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
I hope Christopher Chope gets sodomised by a herd of horny honey badgers.
I’d call him a c*nt but he lacks the depth and the warmth.0 -
That's a colourful way of describing his import/export strategy.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
You’ll be joining me.Danny565 said:
I'm going to hell for laughing at that, aren't I...TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
If so about a dozen Remainers have already broken party rules.kle4 said:
Is even making the threat against party rules?williamglenn said:Chope says he would seriously consider voting with Labour to no confidence the government.
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I don't have a problem with this.kle4 said:
If its permissible for them to add their names I cannot see the problem. Play procedural games and the other side will too. The ERG I do not like but Starmer and Grieve have been lionised for their use of procedural arcana.tlg86 said:
Really? Every time someone complains about Bercow's choice of amendments we're told they are the rules, suck it up. I think MPs have every right to vote on something, even if the original proposer would rather not go through with it.Sean_F said:
I don't think that's cricket.dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
It seems to me that both sides are making entirely unnecessary strategic errors at the moment.0 -
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So presumably not then. In fairness the remainers made threats to quit first, and Indeed some did so.Philip_Thompson said:
If so about a dozen Remainers have already broken party rules.kle4 said:
Is even making the threat against party rules?williamglenn said:Chope says he would seriously consider voting with Labour to no confidence the government.
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On an even more basic level Trump should butt out because, bloody foreigner or not, he is an utter tosser.148grss said:
So we'll soon have loads of people telling Trump to but out of Brexit coz he's a bloody foreigner who shouldn't try to tip the scales, right?williamglenn said:0 -
Yes, but the image of Mrs. May at her typewriter....rottenborough said:
The hotel was in a better state of repair.Sean_F said:
I think that the Palace of Westminster is like the hotel in The Shining.Richard_Tyndall said:
Why is it that I get the genuine impression that practically every person on PB is several magnitudes brighter than practically every MP in Parliament?dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
And that is not me being sarcastic. I believe that the vast majority of people on here, including all those I rant against daily, have a better understanding pf politics, the EU, real life and business than almost everyone sat in the Commons.
We are led by imbeciles.
WAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWA....
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On both potential Wollaston-2 and MV3 being ineligible because they've already been asked, hasn't a customs union been voted down about 5 times by the house already ?0
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FTFY properly as the second abortion issue really does need to be fixed as part of a concerted plan to bring Ulster into the 1990s..rcs1000 said:
FTFYTheScreamingEagles said:
Time to tell the DUP No Deal means an Irish unity referendum.Andrew said:https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1106202908805210112
So again it comes back down to the DUP.
The question then: how many Tory holdouts? 5 remainers, 15 ultra-ERGers? That would mean May needed 15 Labour Ayes.
Oh and Westminster will pass legislation to make same sex marriage legal compulsory and implement an Abortion law to ensure people do not need to travel in Northern Ireland.
‘Cause the DUP hate any difference between NI and GB.0 -
Probably everything - those things are built to take incredible punishment.CarlottaVance said:Be interesting to see how much they can retrieve:
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I'm surprised Andrew Lilico hasn't formed Tories for Corbyn.williamglenn said:0 -
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If you exclude utter tossers we might lose half of Parliament ...Richard_Tyndall said:
On an even more basic level Trump should butt out because, bloody foreigner or not, he is an utter tosser.148grss said:
So we'll soon have loads of people telling Trump to but out of Brexit coz he's a bloody foreigner who shouldn't try to tip the scales, right?williamglenn said:
... wait I'm not sure if that's a negative or positive.0 -
Did the ludicrous Cox bellow in everyone's earhole?Scott_P said:0 -
Go to Socal.SeanT said:
Indeed. I have encountered the US tax system. I am still recovering.Richard_Nabavi said:
True, there are small pockets of the US where one can get decent stuff. Dreadful bureaucracy though - much worse than here.SeanT said:
In posh parts of California you can get every variety of European cheese plus their own new artisanal stuff, which is nice. Also Californian wines (not quite as good as Aussie, but v pleasant). Plus all those deserts and mountains. The sweet summer sweat. Warm smell of calyptus.Richard_Nabavi said:
Or try eating some of their 'cheese'.Floater said:
You might want to look more closely at American news before making that decision.SeanT said:
If I were 25 years old, I would emigrate tomorrow. Britain is finished. Europe is finished. Stagnation and religious strife await.Floater said:
It isCyclefree said:
An utter disgrace.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Imagine the furore and outrage if another school had caved into pressure from protesters and stopped teaching classes on Islam...SeanT said:This is infinitely depressing. We have lost. We have no backbone. The Enlightenment is over. Now comes the Darkening.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1106196762690314240?s=21
I’d go to America. Where English freedoms and the Enlightenment are still, thank god, protected by that Constitution. And I’d buy lots of guns.
Or I’d go to Asia. The future.
Fuck it, I’m going.
It is amazing how vivacious their economy is - creating giants like apple, and amazon, and google - when the bureaucracy seems designed to frustrate it.
The weather is what you imagine, while in Norcal on a good day it's like Birmingham0 -
Love it. Also, how many is the right amount of leaks?Scott_P said:0 -
Mr. Pulpstar, quite.
And nobody that I can remember, from either side, advocated staying in the customs union if we left the EU.0 -
Trumpton really is a soggy cockend.GIN1138 said:0 -
And its maze wasn't quite as difficult to negotiate as Brexit - even when being pursued by an axe-wielding Jack Nicholson......rottenborough said:
The hotel was in a better state of repair.Sean_F said:
I think that the Palace of Westminster is like the hotel in The Shining.Richard_Tyndall said:
Why is it that I get the genuine impression that practically every person on PB is several magnitudes brighter than practically every MP in Parliament?dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
And that is not me being sarcastic. I believe that the vast majority of people on here, including all those I rant against daily, have a better understanding pf politics, the EU, real life and business than almost everyone sat in the Commons.
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Would the Chris Bryant motion actually block the govt from bringing "MV3", or would it just be symbolic?0
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The important bit is the memory held in the cylinder, so it'll probably be fine.CarlottaVance said:Be interesting to see how much they can retrieve:
https://twitter.com/BEA_Aero/status/11062215997353328640 -
I might be misremembering but I'm sure SNP amendments to revoke article 50 have been defeated before now.Foxy said:
As has No DealPulpstar said:On both potential Wollaston-2 and MV3 being ineligible because they've already been asked, hasn't a customs union been voted down about 5 times by the house already ?
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Where is Birmingham's Napa Valley?Charles said:
Go to Socal.SeanT said:
Indeed. I have encountered the US tax system. I am still recovering.Richard_Nabavi said:
True, there are small pockets of the US where one can get decent stuff. Dreadful bureaucracy though - much worse than here.SeanT said:
In posh parts of California you can get every variety of European cheese plus their own new artisanal stuff, which is nice. Also Californian wines (not quite as good as Aussie, but v pleasant). Plus all those deserts and mountains. The sweet summer sweat. Warm smell of calyptus.Richard_Nabavi said:
Or try eating some of their 'cheese'.Floater said:
You might want to look more closely at American news before making that decision.SeanT said:
If I were 25 years old, I would emigrate tomorrow. Britain is finished. Europe is finished. Stagnation and religious strife await.Floater said:
It isCyclefree said:
An utter disgrace.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Imagine the furore and outrage if another school had caved into pressure from protesters and stopped teaching classes on Islam...SeanT said:This is infinitely depressing. We have lost. We have no backbone. The Enlightenment is over. Now comes the Darkening.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1106196762690314240?s=21
I’d go to America. Where English freedoms and the Enlightenment are still, thank god, protected by that Constitution. And I’d buy lots of guns.
Or I’d go to Asia. The future.
Fuck it, I’m going.
It is amazing how vivacious their economy is - creating giants like apple, and amazon, and google - when the bureaucracy seems designed to frustrate it.
The weather is what you imagine, while in Norcal on a good day it's like Birmingham0 -
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Why? – nowt wrong with AOC. She has got serious game and would one considered a centre-left moderate were she European.dyedwoolie said:
Think yourself lucky we haven't got 650 Alexandria Ocasio-CortezsRichard_Tyndall said:
Why is it that I get the genuine impression that practically every person on PB is several magnitudes brighter than practically every MP in Parliament?dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
And that is not me being sarcastic. I believe that the vast majority of people on here, including all those I rant against daily, have a better understanding pf politics, the EU, real life and business than almost everyone sat in the Commons.
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They prefer big banks to entrepreneurial minnows though! Otherwise where are the minnows paying massive amounts into the compensation funds because of the big banks f*** ups ?rcs1000 said:
With all due respect to Mr Cummings, and I speak as a former Goldman Sachs employee and an entrepreneur, that is bollocks.TGOHF said:https://dominiccummings.com/
"The Conservative Party now has almost no intellectual connection to crucial debates about the ecosystem of science, productivity, universities, funding, startups and so on. I know from personal experience that even billionaire entrepreneurs whose donations are vital to the survival of CCHQ cannot get people like Hammond to listen to anything about all this — Hammond’s focus is obeying his orders from Goldman Sachs.
Downing Street is much more interested in protecting corporate looting by large banks and companies and protecting rent-seekers than they are in productivity and entrepreneurs. "0 -
CarlottaVance said:
Be interesting to see how much they can retrieve:
https://twitter.com/BEA_Aero/status/1106221599735332864
Just stop.0 -
Clearly you haven’t been to Dudley.williamglenn said:
Where is Birmingham's Napa Valley?Charles said:
Go to Socal.SeanT said:
Indeed. I have encountered the US tax system. I am still recovering.Richard_Nabavi said:
True, there are small pockets of the US where one can get decent stuff. Dreadful bureaucracy though - much worse than here.SeanT said:
In posh parts of California you can get every variety of European cheese plus their own new artisanal stuff, which is nice. Also Californian wines (not quite as good as Aussie, but v pleasant). Plus all those deserts and mountains. The sweet summer sweat. Warm smell of calyptus.Richard_Nabavi said:
Or try eating some of their 'cheese'.Floater said:
You might want to look more closely at American news before making that decision.SeanT said:
If I were 25 years old, I would emigrate tomorrow. Britain is finished. Europe is finished. Stagnation and religious strife await.Floater said:
It isCyclefree said:
An utter disgrace.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Imagine the furore and outrage if another school had caved into pressure from protesters and stopped teaching classes on Islam...SeanT said:This is infinitely depressing. We have lost. We have no backbone. The Enlightenment is over. Now comes the Darkening.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1106196762690314240?s=21
I’d go to America. Where English freedoms and the Enlightenment are still, thank god, protected by that Constitution. And I’d buy lots of guns.
Or I’d go to Asia. The future.
Fuck it, I’m going.
It is amazing how vivacious their economy is - creating giants like apple, and amazon, and google - when the bureaucracy seems designed to frustrate it.
The weather is what you imagine, while in Norcal on a good day it's like Birmingham0 -
With the ERG's political nous, the other MPs will probably pass it - just to spite them.....rottenborough said:
https://twitter.com/elliotttimes/status/1106214740425089024Sean_F said:
I don't think that's cricket.dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
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Well yes, but the House of Commons' own expressed view on the subject is clearly going to be a highly relevant consideration for the chair. The Bryant amendment seems highly risky to me for that reason.CarlottaVance said:0 -
Or the ERG might end up voting for it by mistake.MarqueeMark said:
With the ERG's political nous, the other MPs will probably pass it - just to spite them.....rottenborough said:
https://twitter.com/elliotttimes/status/1106214740425089024Sean_F said:
I don't think that's cricket.dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
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And Brum had Hollywood before LA.....RoyalBlue said:
Clearly you haven’t been to Dudley.williamglenn said:
Where is Birmingham's Napa Valley?Charles said:
Go to Socal.SeanT said:
Indeed. I have encountered the US tax system. I am still recovering.Richard_Nabavi said:
True, there are small pockets of the US where one can get decent stuff. Dreadful bureaucracy though - much worse than here.SeanT said:
In posh parts of California you can get every variety of European cheese plus their own new artisanal stuff, which is nice. Also Californian wines (not quite as good as Aussie, but v pleasant). Plus all those deserts and mountains. The sweet summer sweat. Warm smell of calyptus.Richard_Nabavi said:
Or try eating some of their 'cheese'.Floater said:
You might want to look more closely at American news before making that decision.SeanT said:
If I were 25 years old, I would emigrate tomorrow. Britain is finished. Europe is finished. Stagnation and religious strife await.Floater said:
It isCyclefree said:
An utter disgrace.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Imagine the furore and outrage if another school had caved into pressure from protesters and stopped teaching classes on Islam...SeanT said:This is infinitely depressing. We have lost. We have no backbone. The Enlightenment is over. Now comes the Darkening.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1106196762690314240?s=21
I’d go to America. Where English freedoms and the Enlightenment are still, thank god, protected by that Constitution. And I’d buy lots of guns.
Or I’d go to Asia. The future.
Fuck it, I’m going.
It is amazing how vivacious their economy is - creating giants like apple, and amazon, and google - when the bureaucracy seems designed to frustrate it.
The weather is what you imagine, while in Norcal on a good day it's like Birmingham0 -
Christ, he can't even get his 'I was belt and braces prepared for No Deal & look what those naughty terrorists have done' strategy right.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Not necessarily, I work similar hours, get as much, if not more vacation than I did in the UK, and my commute is infinitely less stressful as it no longer involves Southeastern (the subway is worse than the tube I grant you). OK, so my employer is a European company, but my T&Cs were pretty much the same at my last job which was an American company.eristdoof said:
Even if you have money, in tghe US you often have to work longer hours, commute for longer and have half the annual leave compared to comparable work in the UK and Europe.rpjs said:
That’s true about all of the US: it’s a great place to live if you have money.Sean_F said:
California is generally badly run. Its schools are on a par with those of Mississippi, it has almost the highest State taxes in the USA, its infrastructure is falling apart, it's overregulated, and over-unionised.SeanT said:
I follow American news closely. They too have culture wars, and they too have a weird class of people using identity politics to deconstruct their own hardwon freedoms. BUT they have that Constituion. A vital bulwark against the madness. Plus they have a more vibrant economy. Especially in California, where I’d go. Maybe Santa Barbara.Floater said:
You might want to look more closely at American news before making that decision.SeanT said:
If I were 25 years old, I would emigrate tomorrow. Britain is finished. Europe is finished. Stagnation and religious strife await.Floater said:
It isCyclefree said:
An utter disgrace.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Imagine the furore and outrage if another school had caved into pressure from protesters and stopped teaching classes on Islam...SeanT said:This is infinitely depressing. We have lost. We have no backbone. The Enlightenment is over. Now comes the Darkening.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1106196762690314240?s=21
I’d go to America. Where English freedoms and the Enlightenment are still, thank god, protected by that Constitution. And I’d buy lots of guns.
Or I’d go to Asia. The future.
It's great if you've got enough money to ignore these failings.0 -
Christ, everything has to be about him doesn't it?williamglenn said:Trump on Brexit.
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Some of them seem to have enjoyed making impossible promises during a referendum campaign a lot more than the challenges of delivering on them afterwards.Sean_F said:
Or the ERG might end up voting for it by mistake.MarqueeMark said:
With the ERG's political nous, the other MPs will probably pass it - just to spite them.....rottenborough said:
https://twitter.com/elliotttimes/status/1106214740425089024Sean_F said:
I don't think that's cricket.dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
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His comments are very funny, in the context of how much she's invested in him, and he knows that.
He's ever the unforgiving political clown-provocateur.0 -
Germans, playing the long game again.....Theuniondivvie said:
Christ, he can't even get his 'I was belt and braces prepared for No Deal & look what those naughty terrorists have done' strategy right.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Overall, the standard of living is about a third higher in the US than it is here, but probably worse there the bottom quarter of the population than it is here.rpjs said:
Not necessarily, I work similar hours, get as much, if not more vacation than I did in the UK, and my commute is infinitely less stressful as it no longer involves Southeastern (the subway is worse than the tube I grant you). OK, so my employer is a European company, but my T&Cs were pretty much the same at my last job which was an American company.eristdoof said:
Even if you have money, in tghe US you often have to work longer hours, commute for longer and have half the annual leave compared to comparable work in the UK and Europe.rpjs said:
That’s true about all of the US: it’s a great place to live if you have money.Sean_F said:
California is generally badly run. Its schools are on a par with those of Mississippi, it has almost the highest State taxes in the USA, its infrastructure is falling apart, it's overregulated, and over-unionised.SeanT said:
I follow American news closely. They too have culture wars, and they too have a weird class of people using identity politics to deconstruct their own hardwon freedoms. BUT they have that Constituion. A vital bulwark against the madness. Plus they have a more vibrant economy. Especially in California, where I’d go. Maybe Santa Barbara.Floater said:
You might want to look more closely at American news before making that decision.SeanT said:
If I were 25 years old, I would emigrate tomorrow. Britain is finished. Europe is finished. Stagnation and religious strife await.Floater said:
It isCyclefree said:
An utter disgrace.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Imagine the furore and outrage if another school had caved into pressure from protesters and stopped teaching classes on Islam...SeanT said:This is infinitely depressing. We have lost. We have no backbone. The Enlightenment is over. Now comes the Darkening.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1106196762690314240?s=21
I’d go to America. Where English freedoms and the Enlightenment are still, thank god, protected by that Constitution. And I’d buy lots of guns.
Or I’d go to Asia. The future.
It's great if you've got enough money to ignore these failings.0 -
Turned on the TV to watch the Commons.
Managed 5 minutes. TV off again.0 -
The full section in Erskine may seems to allow for someone suitably creative to bring back the same thing, or if the house says we just want to, or the underlying situation has changed. If it wants to do it again it can find a way. But it all still hinges on Bercow.AlastairMeeks said:
Well yes, but the House of Commons' own expressed view on the subject is clearly going to be a highly relevant consideration for the chair. The Bryant amendment seems highly risky to me for that reason.CarlottaVance said:0 -
Actually, she probably did, and look where that's got her!kle4 said:
Christ, everything has to be about him doesn't it?williamglenn said:Trump on Brexit.
https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1106220001550364673
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It's a British bomb.MarqueeMark said:
Germans, playing the long game again.....Theuniondivvie said:
Christ, he can't even get his 'I was belt and braces prepared for No Deal & look what those naughty terrorists have done' strategy right.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
She represents America's future far more than Trump and his base do._Anazina_ said:
Why? – nowt wrong with AOC. She has got serious game and would one considered a centre-left moderate were she European.dyedwoolie said:
Think yourself lucky we haven't got 650 Alexandria Ocasio-CortezsRichard_Tyndall said:
Why is it that I get the genuine impression that practically every person on PB is several magnitudes brighter than practically every MP in Parliament?dyedwoolie said:ERG adding names to Woolly amendment to ensure its voted on. Politics is now broken lol
And that is not me being sarcastic. I believe that the vast majority of people on here, including all those I rant against daily, have a better understanding pf politics, the EU, real life and business than almost everyone sat in the Commons.
We are led by imbeciles.0
