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It has to be said that there would be something remarkably fitting about the climax of Brexit being the country finding itself up to its oxters in bullshit.0
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Philip_Thompson said:
Is it really?Fenman said:
Jeremy's solution for all international problems is discussion and compromise. But he refuses to extend such a strategy to domestic problems. Which is why a Labour led coalition under his leadership as the present polls would indicate is unviable.Richard_Nabavi said:
Jeremy Hunt hasn't called for sanctions on Venezuela, but presumably Corbyn is too thick to understand that. Alternatively he's not too thick, which would be even more alarming.Scott_P said:
What discussion and compromise has he ever had or proposed with Israel?
I think Occam's razor applies and Corbyn is simply genuinely friends with the likes of Venezuela, Iran, Russia, Hamas etc.
More accurately Corbyn hates the USA and so his enemy's enemy is his friend.0 -
They wanted colossal.shit@dti.gsi.gov.uk, but Mandleson was first in the queue.bigjohnowls said:
Failing.Grayling@transport.gsi.gov.ukviewcode said:
Putrefying.stockpile@transport.gsi.gov.ukgypsumfantastic said:
Funny, that's Chris Grayling's nickname.IanB2 said:
Government officials are preparing to deal with “putrefying stockpiles” of rubbish
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Just what needs to happen for you (Brexiteers collectively) to realise that this is not going well, and actually, you know, might not be worth it?Sean_F said:
That does seem like the obvious solution.DavidL said:
Just a wild theory but just maybe we could slaughter the beasts and, you know, eat them, resulting in a marked reduction in manure production. I'm up for that.malcolmg said:
So we will be starving and up to our knees in manure, lovely.IanB2 said:Government officials are preparing to deal with “putrefying stockpiles” of rubbish in the event of a no-deal Brexit, according to documents leaked to the Guardian.
If the UK leaves the EU on 29 March without a deal, export licences for millions of tonnes of waste will become invalid overnight. The Environment Agency (EA) officials said leaking stockpiles could cause pollution.
The EA is also concerned that if farmers cannot export beef and lamb a backlog of livestock on farms could cause liquid manure stores to overflow. A senior MP said the problems could cause a public health and environmental pollution emergency. An EA source said: “It could all get very ugly, very quickly.”
We're now slaughtering animals like we have a foot and mouth outbreak, content to let the supermarket shelves empty because "we're too fat anyway", and requisitioning ferries so diabetics don't keel over on the street.
If these are the sunlit uplands...0 -
The captain of the England men's one day cricket team is Irish. Eoin Morgan.Barnesian said:
Hmm. I take that as a no. I didn't know Ireland played cricket. I knew they played rugby quite well.IanB2 said:
Take a good book, a smartphone, and some strong drink.Barnesian said:
I know nothing about cricket but I've just been invited to Lord’s for the England v Ireland test 24 – 26 July (day 1 to 3). Is it likely to be exciting?bigjohnowls said:
Teas are rubbish in ChessAndyJS said:
Do you find chess boring? Because cricket is like a physical version of the game.Sunil_Prasannan said:
In the Test Match West Indies are 218 for 5 in reply to England's 187. The England manager is in denial about poor preparation.0 -
Back in 1969 Ireland bowled out the West Indies for 25 - the West Indian team included Clive Lloyd.Barnesian said:
Hmm. I take that as a no. I didn't know Ireland played cricket. I knew they played rugby quite well.IanB2 said:
Take a good book, a smartphone, and some strong drink.Barnesian said:
I know nothing about cricket but I've just been invited to Lord’s for the England v Ireland test 24 – 26 July (day 1 to 3). Is it likely to be exciting?bigjohnowls said:
Teas are rubbish in ChessAndyJS said:
Do you find chess boring? Because cricket is like a physical version of the game.Sunil_Prasannan said:0 -
England are still well in this, batting 4th here will be a nightmareDavid_Evershed said:
The captain of the England men's one day cricket team is Irish. Eoin Morgan.Barnesian said:
Hmm. I take that as a no. I didn't know Ireland played cricket. I knew they played rugby quite well.IanB2 said:
Take a good book, a smartphone, and some strong drink.Barnesian said:
I know nothing about cricket but I've just been invited to Lord’s for the England v Ireland test 24 – 26 July (day 1 to 3). Is it likely to be exciting?bigjohnowls said:
Teas are rubbish in ChessAndyJS said:
Do you find chess boring? Because cricket is like a physical version of the game.Sunil_Prasannan said:
In the Test Match West Indies are 218 for 5 in reply to England's 187. The England manager is in denial about poor preparation.0 -
And don’t cancel any plans you already had for day 3.IanB2 said:
Take a good book, a smartphone, and some strong drink.Barnesian said:
I know nothing about cricket but I've just been invited to Lord’s for the England v Ireland test 24 – 26 July (day 1 to 3). Is it likely to be exciting?bigjohnowls said:
Teas are rubbish in ChessAndyJS said:
Do you find chess boring? Because cricket is like a physical version of the game.Sunil_Prasannan said:
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If the WI need to bat again that is......Pulpstar said:
England are still well in this, batting 4th here will be a nightmareDavid_Evershed said:
The captain of the England men's one day cricket team is Irish. Eoin Morgan.Barnesian said:
Hmm. I take that as a no. I didn't know Ireland played cricket. I knew they played rugby quite well.IanB2 said:
Take a good book, a smartphone, and some strong drink.Barnesian said:
I know nothing about cricket but I've just been invited to Lord’s for the England v Ireland test 24 – 26 July (day 1 to 3). Is it likely to be exciting?bigjohnowls said:
Teas are rubbish in ChessAndyJS said:
Do you find chess boring? Because cricket is like a physical version of the game.Sunil_Prasannan said:
In the Test Match West Indies are 218 for 5 in reply to England's 187. The England manager is in denial about poor preparation.0 -
Don't write off Trump yet: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47092341
Somehow, despite this, he has bullied the Fed into deferring interest rate increases too.0 -
They need wickets whilst this ball is new. One more strong partnership and the game will slip away.MarqueeMark said:
If the WI need to bat again that is......Pulpstar said:
England are still well in this, batting 4th here will be a nightmareDavid_Evershed said:
The captain of the England men's one day cricket team is Irish. Eoin Morgan.Barnesian said:
Hmm. I take that as a no. I didn't know Ireland played cricket. I knew they played rugby quite well.IanB2 said:
Take a good book, a smartphone, and some strong drink.Barnesian said:
I know nothing about cricket but I've just been invited to Lord’s for the England v Ireland test 24 – 26 July (day 1 to 3). Is it likely to be exciting?bigjohnowls said:
Teas are rubbish in ChessAndyJS said:
Do you find chess boring? Because cricket is like a physical version of the game.Sunil_Prasannan said:
In the Test Match West Indies are 218 for 5 in reply to England's 187. The England manager is in denial about poor preparation.-1 -
There was an interesting comment on ROFTheWhiteRabbit said:
That's most whistleblowers though, isn't it? Once the rose tinted glasses fall and you come to your senses.matt said:
The fact pattern is more complicated than that - the whistleblowing came after she left, not at the time so ah has finished her TC. Recent case law doesn’t help her either.Sean_F said:
That seems remarkably unfair to me. People should not be punished for doing the right thing.TheScreamingEagles said:Poor girl.
A newly qualified solicitor has been struck off after she knowingly overcharged clients when she was a trainee.
Emily Scott joined the firm Quality Solicitors De Vita Platt in Barton-upon-Humber as a paralegal in 2010 before being taken on as a trainee in 2012. She soon found that there was very little of quality about the firm. The Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal heard that the firms two partners, Jonathan de Vita and Christopher Platt, repeatedly ripped off a number of clients. In one instance a client was charged £52,000 for work valued at £2,500.
Platt – who claimed he couldn’t live on less than £2,000 a week – bullied the unfortunate trainee into assisting with the fraud and, subsequently, his attempts to cover it up. Scott did not benefit financially and ultimately reported the firm to the SRA. She qualified in November 2014.
https://www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/trainee-struck-overcharging-clients-after-being-bullied-partner
(IANAL)
* because she went down the tribunal route the regulator would have appealed if she wasn’t struck off (policy)
* recent case law means the courts would have overruled the tribunal and awarded costs against this lady
* she informed the tribunal she didn’t want to practice law in future
Given this striking her off may actually be the best outcome for her0 -
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Apropos whistleblowers, it is not unheard of - in my experience - to find people involved in bad behaviour, then shortly before they are caught, or when they realise they are going to be caught or when an investigation is already underway, to blow the whistle as a way of trying to protect themselves from the consequences of their own actions, even when they were actively complicit in the wrongdoing.
Someone can be both a crook and a whistleblower but if the latter happens at the last minute then it does not - and should not - absolve someone from facing the consequences of their bad actions.
As ever the precise facts of who did what, when and for how long matter.0 -
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The sanctions are on individuals not the country. The “plebs” have already been beggared by Maduromalcolmg said:0 -
Ahem - I tipped him on the previous thread at 11:13 am today.rottenborough said:This guy Buttigieg (mentioned on PB this am) is looking good. Relaxed. Laugh at himself a bit. Got a pitch for the rustbelt.
His dog is called 'Truman'.
https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1091368546150612992
Are we looking at the next Veep here?
Or even more?
(So completely off the wall - but what about this chap?
https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/1088049704955465728)
And to give credit where it's due it was my son who mentioned him to me last Friday. He sent this to me under an email headed "For when you've got the knack of spread-betting....".
I was trying to explain it to him and failing. "Mum" - he said, somewhat witheringly - "How can you spend so much time on a betting site and not understand betting."0 -
WI 240 for 6.
WI lead by 53 so far on first innings.-1 -
What a load of rubbish.Scott_P said:0 -
Hey in Braveheart they didn’t even have clothes!Anorak said:
Just what needs to happen for you (Brexiteers collectively) to realise that this is not going well, and actually, you know, might not be worth it?Sean_F said:
That does seem like the obvious solution.DavidL said:
Just a wild theory but just maybe we could slaughter the beasts and, you know, eat them, resulting in a marked reduction in manure production. I'm up for that.malcolmg said:
So we will be starving and up to our knees in manure, lovely.IanB2 said:Government officials are preparing to deal with “putrefying stockpiles” of rubbish in the event of a no-deal Brexit, according to documents leaked to the Guardian.
If the UK leaves the EU on 29 March without a deal, export licences for millions of tonnes of waste will become invalid overnight. The Environment Agency (EA) officials said leaking stockpiles could cause pollution.
The EA is also concerned that if farmers cannot export beef and lamb a backlog of livestock on farms could cause liquid manure stores to overflow. A senior MP said the problems could cause a public health and environmental pollution emergency. An EA source said: “It could all get very ugly, very quickly.”
We're now slaughtering animals like we have a foot and mouth outbreak, content to let the supermarket shelves empty because "we're too fat anyway", and requisitioning ferries so diabetics don't keel over on the street.
If these are the sunlit uplands...0 -
Good to see a WI test side playing well.David_Evershed said:WI 240 for 6.
WI lead by 53 so far on first innings.0 -
Isn't the correct grammar 'piles of putrefying waste'?0
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Rotting Unicorns?Scott_P said:0 -
Good news, Brexiteers!
You can volunteer to shovel the shit you dropped us in...
https://twitter.com/lisaocarroll/status/10914321027536486420 -
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Dig For Victory!Scott_P said:Good news, Brexiteers!
You can volunteer to shovel the shit you dropped us in...
https://twitter.com/lisaocarroll/status/10914321027536486420 -
Presumably Donald will be tweeting 'Siberian winter? Please come back fast, we need you!'IanB2 said:Much of the US is now facing the fastest warm up in history, as unusually low polar vortex temperatures are replaced by seasonally above average warmth. For example north Kentucky was -13 C last night and is forecast for +19 C by Sunday.
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Cleaning the Augean stables was never going to be easyScott_P said:Good news, Brexiteers!
You can volunteer to shovel the shit you dropped us in...
https://twitter.com/lisaocarroll/status/10914321027536486420 -
'A season for boldness'Cyclefree said:
Ahem - I tipped him on the previous thread at 11:13 am today.rottenborough said:This guy Buttigieg (mentioned on PB this am) is looking good. Relaxed. Laugh at himself a bit. Got a pitch for the rustbelt.
His dog is called 'Truman'.
https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1091368546150612992
Are we looking at the next Veep here?
Or even more?
(So completely off the wall - but what about this chap?
https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/1088049704955465728)
And to give credit where it's due it was my son who mentioned him to me last Friday. He sent this to me under an email headed "For when you've got the knack of spread-betting....".
I was trying to explain it to him and failing. "Mum" - he said, somewhat witheringly - "How can you spend so much time on a betting site and not understand betting."
'Time to focus on the future'
'Walk away from the politics of the past'
One thing's for sure; he won't be short of cliches.0 -
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I suspect we will see a lot more of these 'leaked' stories as we get closer to MV2.Charles said:
Cleaning the Augean stables was never going to be easyScott_P said:Good news, Brexiteers!
You can volunteer to shovel the shit you dropped us in...
https://twitter.com/lisaocarroll/status/10914321027536486420 -
Wales lucky to go in only 16 down.
France impressive in tricky conditions.0 -
Wee Alex was still tweeting that Hilary had it in the bag on the evening of 08/11/16, so caveat emptor etc.Scott_P said:0 -
Good advert, and Axelrod is no fool.Cyclefree said:
Ahem - I tipped him on the previous thread at 11:13 am today.rottenborough said:This guy Buttigieg (mentioned on PB this am) is looking good. Relaxed. Laugh at himself a bit. Got a pitch for the rustbelt.
His dog is called 'Truman'.
https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1091368546150612992
Are we looking at the next Veep here?
Or even more?
(So completely off the wall - but what about this chap?
https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/1088049704955465728)
And to give credit where it's due it was my son who mentioned him to me last Friday. He sent this to me under an email headed "For when you've got the knack of spread-betting....".
I was trying to explain it to him and failing. "Mum" - he said, somewhat witheringly - "How can you spend so much time on a betting site and not understand betting."
Can he get traction in Iowa? I think that's likely to be the Warren vs Harris show, but he's sufficiently different, that you never know.
(Disclaimer: I can't think of the last time a Mayor became President. Or a nominee. And South Bend, Indiana, while not tiny is no New York or Los Angeles. Or even a Denver or a New Orleans.)0 -
I’m slightly surprised that Adonis never stood for election to the European Parliament. The list system would have guaranteed a seat.Scott_P said:0 -
Nah. We can feed it to all those Remainers who are dumb enough to believe the stories about food shortages. Just tell them this is all there is too eat and they are so stupid they will believe their own idiotic propaganda.Scott_P said:Good news, Brexiteers!
You can volunteer to shovel the shit you dropped us in...
https://twitter.com/lisaocarroll/status/1091432102753648642
Edit. Enjoy eating your cardboard box Scott.0 -
I am going to feast on your delicious regret, and quaff Brexitears...Richard_Tyndall said:Edit. Enjoy eating your cardboard box Scott.
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Brexiteers are going to feast on that massive buffet of Remainer Humble Pie, as Brexit turns out really rather well....Scott_P said:
I am going to feast on your delicious regret, and quaff Brexitears...Richard_Tyndall said:Edit. Enjoy eating your cardboard box Scott.
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In which case you will starve. Which would be fitting.Scott_P said:
I am going to feast on your delicious regret, and quaff Brexitears...Richard_Tyndall said:Edit. Enjoy eating your cardboard box Scott.
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Wales 17
France 16-1 -
It's pinball out there!AndyJS said:Wales 17
France 160 -
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Provided we Leave on time, you can quaff, feast or otherwise gustate whatever you wish.MarqueeMark said:
Brexiteers are going to feast on that massive buffet of Remainer Humble Pie, as Brexit turns out really rather well....Scott_P said:
I am going to feast on your delicious regret, and quaff Brexitears...Richard_Tyndall said:Edit. Enjoy eating your cardboard box Scott.
(There's nothing like having money on an outcome to focus the mind...
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Very quiet on here tonight.0
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/10/tesco-and-ms-stockpile-tinned-food-to-prepare-for-no-deal-brexitRichard_Tyndall said:
Nah. We can feed it to all those Remainers who are dumb enough to believe the stories about food shortages. Just tell them this is all there is too eat and they are so stupid they will believe their own idiotic propaganda.Scott_P said:Good news, Brexiteers!
You can volunteer to shovel the shit you dropped us in...
https://twitter.com/lisaocarroll/status/1091432102753648642
Edit. Enjoy eating your cardboard box Scott.
Serious question, do you believe that story to be idiotic propaganda? If so is the guardian lying to us, or are the supermarkets lying to the guardian, or both, or what?
Call me mr credulous if you will, but I am strangely persuaded by the claims that lots of our food comes from abroad and that getting it here from abroad will become problematic in the event of a no deal exit. Where am I going wrong?0 -
France v Wales absorbing.....AndyJS said:Very quiet on here tonight.
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Tonight, we shall all quaff French tears.....0
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Cheese eating surrender monkeys.0
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Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are embarked upon as this anodyne environment of trench warfare on Brexit sucks the life out of everything. Depressing!0
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Very peculiar game of two halves.MarqueeMark said:
France v Wales absorbing.....AndyJS said:Very quiet on here tonight.
A winger runs through a lock, a comedy knock on 1 yard from the line under little pressure, and a ludicrous pass for an interception.
Rugby equivalent of 3 own goals.0 -
See the French collapsed to our lads tonight. Great game and super result
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Come on, this was good.The_Taxman said:Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are embarked upon as this anodyne environment of trench warfare on Brexit sucks the life out of everything. Depressing!
https://youtu.be/svwslRDTyzU0 -
Hello Paul, It was very good indeed, enjoyed it a lot thank you.paulyork64 said:
hi malcolm,malcolmg said:
how was warhorse?
went to see MQ of S but was very disappointed. leading actresses were good but the script/editing left me quite bored to be honest. I was more interested trying to identify the locations they used (which I did pretty well on I think). and I was amused by the travelling scenes that had so few extras they could have almost have been out of monty python with a man with a couple of coconuts pretending to be the horse. of course this could have been historically accurate.0 -
More quaffing than when Stephen Fry did a Lord Vultan impersonation for a quaff company.MarqueeMark said:Tonight, we shall all quaff French tears.....
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I live out in the sticks. My Mrs spends lambing season hand feeding the local orphan lambs. I know a few farmers really well, and in general, they're a little concerned about CAP, but none of them are slotting their beasts in panic. It might just be a local thing, but they never struggle to sell their produce to local butchers. We live well.Anorak said:
Just what needs to happen for you (Brexiteers collectively) to realise that this is not going well, and actually, you know, might not be worth it?Sean_F said:
That does seem like the obvious solution.DavidL said:
Just a wild theory but just maybe we could slaughter the beasts and, you know, eat them, resulting in a marked reduction in manure production. I'm up for that.malcolmg said:
So we will be starving and up to our knees in manure, lovely.IanB2 said:Government officials are preparing to deal with “putrefying stockpiles” of rubbish in the event of a no-deal Brexit, according to documents leaked to the Guardian.
If the UK leaves the EU on 29 March without a deal, export licences for millions of tonnes of waste will become invalid overnight. The Environment Agency (EA) officials said leaking stockpiles could cause pollution.
The EA is also concerned that if farmers cannot export beef and lamb a backlog of livestock on farms could cause liquid manure stores to overflow. A senior MP said the problems could cause a public health and environmental pollution emergency. An EA source said: “It could all get very ugly, very quickly.”
We're now slaughtering animals like we have a foot and mouth outbreak, content to let the supermarket shelves empty because "we're too fat anyway", and requisitioning ferries so diabetics don't keel over on the street.
If these are the sunlit uplands...0 -
Unlike Tezzie, they went to Europe and didn't come back empty handed.Big_G_NorthWales said:See the French collapsed to our lads tonight. Great game and super result
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Sadly for remainers, Corbyn showed he is a brexiteer and wants chaos in no deal, while most of his members and mps let him. Why Starmer is still shadow brexit secretary I have no ideaThe_Taxman said:Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are embarked upon as this anodyne environment of trench warfare on Brexit sucks the life out of everything. Depressing!
While the type of brexit is still uncertain remain or a referendum is now a very faint likelihood
I am not excited by it but if it happens, it does respect the referendum0 -
She came back with a deal. It was just the ultra brexteers and remainers dished it, as other than full on no deal or full on remain, nothing satisfies their lust to winSandyRentool said:
Unlike Tezzie, they went to Europe and didn't come back empty handed.Big_G_NorthWales said:See the French collapsed to our lads tonight. Great game and super result
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However. The route to Remain lies through extension. A never ending period of preparing to Leave, but no government being brave or foolhardy enough to go through with it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sadly for remainers, Corbyn showed he is a brexiteer and wants chaos in no deal, while most of his members and mps let him. Why Starmer is still shadow brexit secretary I have no ideaThe_Taxman said:Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are embarked upon as this anodyne environment of trench warfare on Brexit sucks the life out of everything. Depressing!
While the type of brexit is still uncertain remain or a referendum is now a very faint likelihood
I am not excited by it but if it happens, it does respect the referendum
A never ending purgatory.
For ever and ever.
No more or less than we deserve.0 -
Fortunately the EU will not agree to an extension with a never ending destinationdixiedean said:
However. The route to Remain lies through extension. A never ending period of preparing to Leave, but no government being brave or foolhardy enough to go through with it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sadly for remainers, Corbyn showed he is a brexiteer and wants chaos in no deal, while most of his members and mps let him. Why Starmer is still shadow brexit secretary I have no ideaThe_Taxman said:Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are embarked upon as this anodyne environment of trench warfare on Brexit sucks the life out of everything. Depressing!
While the type of brexit is still uncertain remain or a referendum is now a very faint likelihood
I am not excited by it but if it happens, it does respect the referendum
A never ending purgatory.
For ever and ever.
No more or less than we deserve.
I do believe TM deal, improved or not, will eventually pass and we exit on the 29th March0 -
Yes, I had forgotten that one!Jonathan said:
Come on, this was good.The_Taxman said:Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are embarked upon as this anodyne environment of trench warfare on Brexit sucks the life out of everything. Depressing!
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I am not so sure I share your optimism. I think 29th March is likely to be postponed due to the amount of legislation required and related to that the recess in parliament going ahead. I think postponement is a done deal.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Fortunately the EU will not agree to an extension with a never ending destinationdixiedean said:
However. The route to Remain lies through extension. A never ending period of preparing to Leave, but no government being brave or foolhardy enough to go through with it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sadly for remainers, Corbyn showed he is a brexiteer and wants chaos in no deal, while most of his members and mps let him. Why Starmer is still shadow brexit secretary I have no ideaThe_Taxman said:Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are embarked upon as this anodyne environment of trench warfare on Brexit sucks the life out of everything. Depressing!
While the type of brexit is still uncertain remain or a referendum is now a very faint likelihood
I am not excited by it but if it happens, it does respect the referendum
A never ending purgatory.
For ever and ever.
No more or less than we deserve.
I do believe TM deal, improved or not, will eventually pass and we exit on the 29th March
I am still concerned that No Deal will happen and I might have difficulty getting my medication, which unnervingly seems to be imported from elsewhere in the EU.0 -
I suspect a second referendum will not happen as it is too divisive.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sadly for remainers, Corbyn showed he is a brexiteer and wants chaos in no deal, while most of his members and mps let him. Why Starmer is still shadow brexit secretary I have no ideaThe_Taxman said:Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are embarked upon as this anodyne environment of trench warfare on Brexit sucks the life out of everything. Depressing!
While the type of brexit is still uncertain remain or a referendum is now a very faint likelihood
I am not excited by it but if it happens, it does respect the referendum0 -
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No the EU won't. However, a period in limbo (in the true theological sense) would serve us so right.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Fortunately the EU will not agree to an extension with a never ending destinationdixiedean said:
However. The route to Remain lies through extension. A never ending period of preparing to Leave, but no government being brave or foolhardy enough to go through with it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sadly for remainers, Corbyn showed he is a brexiteer and wants chaos in no deal, while most of his members and mps let him. Why Starmer is still shadow brexit secretary I have no ideaThe_Taxman said:Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are embarked upon as this anodyne environment of trench warfare on Brexit sucks the life out of everything. Depressing!
While the type of brexit is still uncertain remain or a referendum is now a very faint likelihood
I am not excited by it but if it happens, it does respect the referendum
A never ending purgatory.
For ever and ever.
No more or less than we deserve.
I do believe TM deal, improved or not, will eventually pass and we exit on the 29th March
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I am leaning to a deal being agreed to enable us to leave on the 29th March, but if a few weeks is required for the parliamentary work to be completed I do not see that as a problem for the EU to agreeThe_Taxman said:
I am not so sure I share your optimism. I think 29th March is likely to be postponed due to the amount of legislation required and related to that the recess in parliament going ahead. I think postponement is a done deal.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Fortunately the EU will not agree to an extension with a never ending destinationdixiedean said:
However. The route to Remain lies through extension. A never ending period of preparing to Leave, but no government being brave or foolhardy enough to go through with it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sadly for remainers, Corbyn showed he is a brexiteer and wants chaos in no deal, while most of his members and mps let him. Why Starmer is still shadow brexit secretary I have no ideaThe_Taxman said:Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are embarked upon as this anodyne environment of trench warfare on Brexit sucks the life out of everything. Depressing!
While the type of brexit is still uncertain remain or a referendum is now a very faint likelihood
I am not excited by it but if it happens, it does respect the referendum
A never ending purgatory.
For ever and ever.
No more or less than we deserve.
I do believe TM deal, improved or not, will eventually pass and we exit on the 29th March
I am still concerned that No Deal will happen and I might have difficulty getting my medication, which unnervingly seems to be imported from elsewhere in the EU.
Both my wife and I are dependent on medication and I expect the supplies to be maintained, no matter the outcome. At least I am not worrying about it at this stage
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I tend to be cautious in my approach to life these days, so this is why I am concerned about medication.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am leaning to a deal being agreed to enable us to leave on the 29th March, but if a few weeks is required for the parliamentary work to be completed I do not see that as a problem for the EU to agreeThe_Taxman said:
I am not so sure I share your optimism. I think 29th March is likely to be postponed due to the amount of legislation required and related to that the recess in parliament going ahead. I think postponement is a done deal.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Fortunately the EU will not agree to an extension with a never ending destinationdixiedean said:
However. The route to Remain lies through extension. A never ending period of preparing to Leave, but no government being brave or foolhardy enough to go through with it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sadly for remainers, Corbyn showed he is a brexiteer and wants chaos in no deal, while most of his members and mps let him. Why Starmer is still shadow brexit secretary I have no ideaThe_Taxman said:Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are embarked upon as this anodyne environment of trench warfare on Brexit sucks the life out of everything. Depressing!
While the type of brexit is still uncertain remain or a referendum is now a very faint likelihood
I am not excited by it but if it happens, it does respect the referendum
A never ending purgatory.
For ever and ever.
No more or less than we deserve.
I do believe TM deal, improved or not, will eventually pass and we exit on the 29th March
I am still concerned that No Deal will happen and I might have difficulty getting my medication, which unnervingly seems to be imported from elsewhere in the EU.
Both my wife and I are dependent on medication and I expect the supplies to be maintained, no matter the outcome. At least I am not worrying about it at this stage
I suspect a Deal is going to be harder to obtain unless we end up with single market access and customs union to get around NI. I can see ERG + DUP hope of NI backstop changes being frustrated. In my mind though if we stay in the customs union and single market we might as well stay in the EU and have a say in the future development of things.0 -
But why do you want the UK punished no matter your views on brexit.dixiedean said:
No the EU won't. However, a period in limbo (in the true theological sense) would serve us so right.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Fortunately the EU will not agree to an extension with a never ending destinationdixiedean said:
However. The route to Remain lies through extension. A never ending period of preparing to Leave, but no government being brave or foolhardy enough to go through with it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sadly for remainers, Corbyn showed he is a brexiteer and wants chaos in no deal, while most of his members and mps let him. Why Starmer is still shadow brexit secretary I have no ideaThe_Taxman said:Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are embarked upon as this anodyne environment of trench warfare on Brexit sucks the life out of everything. Depressing!
While the type of brexit is still uncertain remain or a referendum is now a very faint likelihood
I am not excited by it but if it happens, it does respect the referendum
A never ending purgatory.
For ever and ever.
No more or less than we deserve.
I do believe TM deal, improved or not, will eventually pass and we exit on the 29th March0 -
And I agree 100% with you. Norway style brexit is a sell out and we are better remainingThe_Taxman said:
I tend to be cautious in my approach to life these days, so this is why I am concerned about medication.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am leaning to a deal being agreed to enable us to leave on the 29th March, but if a few weeks is required for the parliamentary work to be completed I do not see that as a problem for the EU to agreeThe_Taxman said:
I am not so sure I share your optimism. I think 29th March is likely to be postponed due to the amount of legislation required and related to that the recess in parliament going ahead. I think postponement is a done deal.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Fortunately the EU will not agree to an extension with a never ending destinationdixiedean said:
However. The route to Remain lies through extension.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sadly for remainers, Corbyn showed he is a brexiteer and wants chaos in no deal, while most of his members and mps let him. Why Starmer is still shadow brexit secretary I have no ideaThe_Taxman said:Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are embarked upon as this anodyne environment of trench warfare on Brexit sucks the life out of everything. Depressing!
While the type of brexit is still uncertain remain or a referendum is now a very faint likelihood
I am not excited by it but if it happens, it does respect the referendum
I do believe TM deal, improved or not, will eventually pass and we exit on the 29th March
I am still concerned that No Deal will happen and I might have difficulty getting my medication, which unnervingly seems to be imported from elsewhere in the EU.
Both my wife and I are dependent on medication and I expect the supplies to be maintained, no matter the outcome. At least I am not worrying about it at this stage
I suspect a Deal is going to be harder to obtain unless we end up with single market access and customs union to get around NI. I can see ERG + DUP hope of NI backstop changes being frustrated. In my mind though if we stay in the customs union and single market we might as well stay in the EU and have a say in the future development of things.
TM deal is brexit and I do not see any choice other than the deal or no deal, which would be unforgiveable0 -
Thanks, I wish you a good night.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And I agree 100% with you. Norway style brexit is a sell out and we are better remainingThe_Taxman said:
I tend to be cautious in my approach to life these days, so this is why I am concerned about medication.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am leaning to a deal being agreed to enable us to leave on the 29th March, but if a few weeks is required for the parliamentary work to be completed I do not see that as a problem for the EU to agreeThe_Taxman said:
I am not so sure I share your optimism. I think 29th March is likely to be postponed due to the amount of legislation required and related to that the recess in parliament going ahead. I think postponement is a done deal.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Fortunately the EU will not agree to an extension with a never ending destinationdixiedean said:
However. The route to Remain lies through extension.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sadly for remainers, Corbyn showed he is a brexiteer and wants chaos in no deal, while most of his members and mps let him. Why Starmer is still shadow brexit secretary I have no ideaThe_Taxman said:Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are embarked upon as this anodyne environment of trench warfare on Brexit sucks the life out of everything. Depressing!
While the type of brexit is still uncertain remain or a referendum is now a very faint likelihood
I am not excited by it but if it happens, it does respect the referendum
I do believe TM deal, improved or not, will eventually pass and we exit on the 29th March
I am still concerned that No Deal will happen and I might have difficulty getting my medication, which unnervingly seems to be imported from elsewhere in the EU.
Both my wife and I are dependent on medication and I expect the supplies to be maintained, no matter the outcome. At least I am not worrying about it at this stage
I suspect a Deal is going to be harder to obtain unless we end up with single market access and customs union to get around NI. I can see ERG + DUP hope of NI backstop changes being frustrated. In my mind though if we stay in the customs union and single market we might as well stay in the EU and have a say in the future development of things.
TM deal is brexit and I do not see any choice other than the deal or no deal, which would be unforgiveable0 -
And youThe_Taxman said:
Thanks, I wish you a good night.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And I agree 100% with you. Norway style brexit is a sell out and we are better remainingThe_Taxman said:
I tend to be cautious in my approach to life these days, so this is why I am concerned about medication.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am leaning to a deal being agreed to enable us to leave on the 29th March, but if a few weeks is required for the parliamentary work to be completed I do not see that as a problem for the EU to agreeThe_Taxman said:
I am not so sure I share your optimism. I think 29th March is likely to be postponed due to the amount of legislation required and related to that the recess in parliament going ahead. I think postponement is a done deal.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Fortunately the EU will not agree to an extension with a never ending destinationdixiedean said:
However. The route to Remain lies through extension.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sadly for remainers, Corbyn showed he is a brexiteer and wants chaos in no deal, while most of his members and mps let him. Why Starmer is still shadow brexit secretary I have no ideaThe_Taxman said:Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are !
While the type of brexit is still uncertain remain or a referendum is now a very faint likelihood
I am not excited by it but if it happens, it does respect the referendum
I do believe TM deal, improved or not, will eventually pass and we exit on the 29th March
I am still concerned that No Deal will happen and I might have difficulty getting my medication, which unnervingly seems to be imported from elsewhere in the EU.
Both my wife and I are dependent on medication and I expect the supplies to be maintained, no matter the outcome. At least I am not worrying about it at this stage
I suspect a Deal is going to be harder to obtain unless we end up with single market access and customs union to get around NI. I can see ERG + DUP hope of NI backstop changes being frustrated. In my mind though if we stay in the customs union and single market we might as well stay in the EU and have a say in the future development of things.
TM deal is brexit and I do not see any choice other than the deal or no deal, which would be unforgiveable0 -
I didn't say I wanted it. I said we would deserve it. For the appalling decline in the standards of public discourse. The incivility. The threats, insults and widespread unpleasantness unleashed by the whole process.Big_G_NorthWales said:
But why do you want the UK punished no matter your views on brexit.dixiedean said:
No the EU won't. However, a period in limbo (in the true theological sense) would serve us so right.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Fortunately the EU will not agree to an extension with a never ending destinationdixiedean said:
However. The route to Remain lies through extension. A never ending period of preparing to Leave, but no government being brave or foolhardy enough to go through with it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sadly for remainers, Corbyn showed he is a brexiteer and wants chaos in no deal, while most of his members and mps let him. Why Starmer is still shadow brexit secretary I have no ideaThe_Taxman said:Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are embarked upon as this anodyne environment of trench warfare on Brexit sucks the life out of everything. Depressing!
While the type of brexit is still uncertain remain or a referendum is now a very faint likelihood
I am not excited by it but if it happens, it does respect the referendum
A never ending purgatory.
For ever and ever.
No more or less than we deserve.
I do believe TM deal, improved or not, will eventually pass and we exit on the 29th March
On both sides.0 -
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I really do share your view on this and it makes me weep at times. It is a disaster for harmony and tolerance but if as is reported tonight, 40 labour mps back TM deal, it does look much more likely that the deal will go through and we will leave on the 29th March.dixiedean said:
I didn't say I wanted it. I said we would deserve it. For the appalling decline in the standards of public discourse. The incivility. The threats, insults and widespread unpleasantness unleashed by the whole process.Big_G_NorthWales said:
But why do you want the UK punished no matter your views on brexit.dixiedean said:
No the EU won't. However, a period in limbo (in the true theological sense) would serve us so right.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Fortunately the EU will not agree to an extension with a never ending destinationdixiedean said:
However. The route to Remain lies through extension. A never ending period of preparing to Leave, but no government being brave or foolhardy enough to go through with it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sadly for remainers, Corbyn showed he is a brexiteer and wants chaos in no deal, while most of his members and mps let him. Why Starmer is still shadow brexit secretary I have no ideaThe_Taxman said:Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are embarked upon as this anodyne environment of trench warfare on Brexit sucks the life out of everything. Depressing!
While the type of brexit is still uncertain remain or a referendum is now a very faint likelihood
I am not excited by it but if it happens, it does respect the referendum
A never ending purgatory.
For ever and ever.
No more or less than we deserve.
I do believe TM deal, improved or not, will eventually pass and we exit on the 29th March
On both sides.
It is then upto everyone on all sides to at least try to come together0 -
"Harry Redknapp: We must do something about knife crime epidemic"
https://news.sky.com/story/harry-redknapp-we-must-do-something-about-knife-crime-epidemic-116251840 -
Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really do share your view on this and it makes me weep at times. It is a disaster for harmony and tolerance but if as is reported tonight, 40 labour mps back TM deal, it does look much more likely that the deal will go through and we will leave on the 29th March.
Still be tight - 38 Tory rebels would be enough to block it.0 -
I am 0beginining to think any form of BREXIT will have to do.0
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man updixiedean said:
I didn't say I wanted it. I said we would deserve it. For the appalling decline in the standards of public discourse. The incivility. The threats, insults and widespread unpleasantness unleashed by the whole process.Big_G_NorthWales said:
But why do you want the UK punished no matter your views on brexit.dixiedean said:
No the EU won't. However, a period in limbo (in the true theological sense) would serve us so right.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Fortunately the EU will not agree to an extension with a never ending destinationdixiedean said:
However. The route to Remain lies through extension. A never ending period of preparing to Leave, but no government being brave or foolhardy enough to go through with it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sadly for remainers, Corbyn showed he is a brexiteer and wants chaos in no deal, while most of his members and mps let him. Why Starmer is still shadow brexit secretary I have no ideaThe_Taxman said:Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are embarked upon as this anodyne environment of trench warfare on Brexit sucks the life out of everything. Depressing!
While the type of brexit is still uncertain remain or a referendum is now a very faint likelihood
I am not excited by it but if it happens, it does respect the referendum
A never ending purgatory.
For ever and ever.
No more or less than we deserve.
I do believe TM deal, improved or not, will eventually pass and we exit on the 29th March
On both sides.0 -
OMG - we never used to be a nation of wimps. Where is our Maggie? Where is our Winston?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really do share your view on this and it makes me weep at times. It is a disaster for harmony and tolerance but if as is reported tonight, 40 labour mps back TM deal, it does look much more likely that the deal will go through and we will leave on the 29th March.dixiedean said:
I didn't say I wanted it. I said we would deserve it. For the appalling decline in the standards of public discourse. The incivility. The threats, insults and widespread unpleasantness unleashed by the whole process.Big_G_NorthWales said:
But why do you want the UK punished no matter your views on brexit.dixiedean said:
No the EU won't. However, a period in limbo (in the true theological sense) would serve us so right.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Fortunately the EU will not agree to an extension with a never ending destinationdixiedean said:
However. The route to Remain lies through extension. A never ending period of preparing to Leave, but no government being brave or foolhardy enough to go through with it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sadly for remainers, Corbyn showed he is a brexiteer and wants chaos in no deal, while most of his members and mps let him. Why Starmer is still shadow brexit secretary I have no ideaThe_Taxman said:Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are embarked upon as this anodyne environment of trench warfare on Brexit sucks the life out of everything. Depressing!
While the type of brexit is still uncertain remain or a referendum is now a very faint likelihood
I am not excited by it but if it happens, it does respect the referendum
A never ending purgatory.
For ever and ever.
No more or less than we deserve.
I do believe TM deal, improved or not, will eventually pass and we exit on the 29th March
On both sides.
It is then upto everyone on all sides to at least try to come together0 -
Yes it is idiotic propaganda. Partly done by supermarkets who are primarily stockpiling because they fear panic buying and partly fed by those who wish to see it accepted as inevitable as part of the campaign to ensure we do not have a No Deal Brexit.Ishmael_Z said:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/10/tesco-and-ms-stockpile-tinned-food-to-prepare-for-no-deal-brexitRichard_Tyndall said:
Nah. We can feed it to all those Remainers who are dumb enough to believe the stories about food shortages. Just tell them this is all there is too eat and they are so stupid they will believe their own idiotic propaganda.Scott_P said:Good news, Brexiteers!
You can volunteer to shovel the shit you dropped us in...
https://twitter.com/lisaocarroll/status/1091432102753648642
Edit. Enjoy eating your cardboard box Scott.
Serious question, do you believe that story to be idiotic propaganda? If so is the guardian lying to us, or are the supermarkets lying to the guardian, or both, or what?
Call me mr credulous if you will, but I am strangely persuaded by the claims that lots of our food comes from abroad and that getting it here from abroad will become problematic in the event of a no deal exit. Where am I going wrong?
A No Deal would be bad for the British economy. It will not mean food shortages nor medicines running out. Anyone who actually believes that really is too dumb to be let out on their own.
In a way of course I hope there are lots of gullible morons out there believing this as I am in favour of the Deal. But don't for a minute think that means I believe this bullshit. It has as much basis in fact as Anorak's bullshit about slaughtering animals.
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I think this is a lesson in people hearing want they want to hear. I have already heard sensible people saying we will be starving after Brexit (not that there will be problems with some items) and that the economy will collapse (not that there will be a small change over a number of years). Unfortunately I now fear that there will be so many of these it is self fulfilling. Panic buying leading to economic issues around confidence.Richard_Tyndall said:
Yes it is idiotic propaganda. Partly done by supermarkets who are primarily stockpiling because they fear panic buying and partly fed by those who wish to see it accepted as inevitable as part of the campaign to ensure we do not have a No Deal Brexit.Ishmael_Z said:
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/10/tesco-and-ms-stockpile-tinned-food-to-prepare-for-no-deal-brexitRichard_Tyndall said:
Nah. We can feed it to all those Remainers who are dumb enough to believe the stories about food shortages. Just tell them this is all there is too eat and they are so stupid they will believe their own idiotic propaganda.Scott_P said:Good news, Brexiteers!
You can volunteer to shovel the shit you dropped us in...
https://twitter.com/lisaocarroll/status/1091432102753648642
Edit. Enjoy eating your cardboard box Scott.
Serious question, do you believe that story to be idiotic propaganda? If so is the guardian lying to us, or are the supermarkets lying to the guardian, or both, or what?
Call me mr credulous if you will, but I am strangely persuaded by the claims that lots of our food comes from abroad and that getting it here from abroad will become problematic in the event of a no deal exit. Where am I going wrong?
A No Deal would be bad for the British economy. It will not mean food shortages nor medicines running out. Anyone who actually believes that really is too dumb to be let out on their own.
In a way of course I hope there are lots of gullible morons out there believing this as I am in favour of the Deal. But don't for a minute think that means I believe this bullshit. It has as much basis in fact as Anorak's bullshit about slaughtering animals.0 -
Both thankfully dead and buried . Man up and face the present .ReggieCide said:
OMG - we never used to be a nation of wimps. Where is our Maggie? Where is our Winston?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really do share your view on this and it makes me weep at times. It is a disaster for harmony and tolerance but if as is reported tonight, 40 labour mps back TM deal, it does look much more likely that the deal will go through and we will leave on the 29th March.dixiedean said:
I didn't say I wanted it. I said we would deserve it. For the appalling decline in the standards of public discourse. The incivility. The threats, insults and widespread unpleasantness unleashed by the whole process.Big_G_NorthWales said:
But why do you want the UK punished no matter your views on brexit.dixiedean said:
No the EU won't. However, a period in limbo (in the true theological sense) would serve us so right.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Fortunately the EU will not agree to an extension with a never ending destinationdixiedean said:
However. The route to Remain lies through extension. A never ending period of preparing to Leave, but no government being brave or foolhardy enough to go through with it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sadly for remainers, Corbyn showed he is a brexiteer and wants chaos in no deal, while most of his members and mps let him. Why Starmer is still shadow brexit secretary I have no ideaThe_Taxman said:Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are embarked upon as this anodyne environment of trench warfare on Brexit sucks the life out of everything. Depressing!
While the type of brexit is still uncertain remain or a referendum is now a very faint likelihood
I am not excited by it but if it happens, it does respect the referendum
A never ending purgatory.
For ever and ever.
No more or less than we deserve.
I do believe TM deal, improved or not, will eventually pass and we exit on the 29th March
On both sides.
It is then upto everyone on all sides to at least try to come together0 -
If a deal is agreed and ratified, we won't be leaving on March 29 - the timetable is too tight to get the enabling legislation through. June 30 is more likely. If we leave on March 29, it'll be without a deal.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really do share your view on this and it makes me weep at times. It is a disaster for harmony and tolerance but if as is reported tonight, 40 labour mps back TM deal, it does look much more likely that the deal will go through and we will leave on the 29th March.dixiedean said:
I didn't say I wanted it. I said we would deserve it. For the appalling decline in the standards of public discourse. The incivility. The threats, insults and widespread unpleasantness unleashed by the whole process.Big_G_NorthWales said:
But why do you want the UK punished no matter your views on brexit.dixiedean said:
No the EU won't. However, a period in limbo (in the true theological sense) would serve us so right.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Fortunately the EU will not agree to an extension with a never ending destinationdixiedean said:
However. The route to Remain lies through extension. A never ending period of preparing to Leave, but no government being brave or foolhardy enough to go through with it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sadly for remainers, Corbyn showed he is a brexiteer and wants chaos in no deal, while most of his members and mps let him. Why Starmer is still shadow brexit secretary I have no ideaThe_Taxman said:Brexit supporters on here remind me of those rather funny clips 10 years ago of Hitler in the bunker. Still pledging support to a failing Brexit. 10 years ago The subtitles were changed to fit Gordon Browns travails. What ever you think of Brexit, whether you support it or are opposed, the UK is in need of some humour about the situation we are embarked upon as this anodyne environment of trench warfare on Brexit sucks the life out of everything. Depressing!
While the type of brexit is still uncertain remain or a referendum is now a very faint likelihood
I am not excited by it but if it happens, it does respect the referendum
A never ending purgatory.
For ever and ever.
No more or less than we deserve.
I do believe TM deal, improved or not, will eventually pass and we exit on the 29th March
On both sides.
It is then upto everyone on all sides to at least try to come together0
