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There are times I believe that the social services are really just trolling people...TheScreamingEagles said:There's a story in the Sunday Times that's going to either confuse the Daily Mail or is a Daily Mail dream story
A MUSLIM family of Somali origin have protested after social services chose a white lesbian couple to adopt their three-year-old daughter.
They say offers from four members of their extended family to care for the girl were rejected. Relatives want the child to be brought up by a family who share their religious and ethnic background.
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The final two episodes of The Bridge were pretty harrowing viewing IMO. Brilliant scriptwriting.0
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Let's hope social services don't cave in on this.TheScreamingEagles said:There's a story in the Sunday Times that's going to either confuse the Daily Mail or is a Daily Mail dream story
A MUSLIM family of Somali origin have protested after social services chose a white lesbian couple to adopt their three-year-old daughter.
They say offers from four members of their extended family to care for the girl were rejected. Relatives want the child to be brought up by a family who share their religious and ethnic background.0 -
Two partly Chinese candidates have now been selected in winnable seats: Sarah Yong for the LDs in Somerton & Frome and Sarah Owen for Labour in Hastings & Rye.0
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Blue line, surely?fitalass said:Any Conservative Leader that decides to form a pact with UKIP would cross my red line and end my support for the party.
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AndyJS and any other Bridge fans - the author's now corrected his earlier statement - next and final sderies will air in Sweden Sept 2015 (not 2016) - so presumably here around Xmas. And yes, quite remarkable writing there.0
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South Belfast has an ethnic Chinese MLA (Stormont) - Anna Lo of the Alliance Party.AndyJS said:Two partly Chinese candidates have now been selected in winnable seats: Sarah Yong for the LDs in Somerton & Frome and Sarah Owen for Labour in Hastings & Rye.
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The discussion with the author is on http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/blogbbctv/posts/The-Bridge-Live-web-chat (assume it will stay up after the chat finishes). You have to page through zillions of pending-noderaiton messages to find his replies. Warning - it's full of soilers for anyone who hasn't watched it yet.0
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The scene in the female toilets was one of the most difficult to watch (in my experience). It was far worse than any horror film I've seen.NickPalmer said:AndyJS and any other Bridge fans - the author's now corrected his earlier statement - next and final sderies will air in Sweden Sept 2015 (not 2016) - so presumably here around Xmas. And yes, quite remarkable writing there.
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"Power flows only to those who know how!" - Megatron in "Transformers: Arrival From Cyberton"Ninoinoz said:
Oh, I don't know.Richard_Tyndall said:
I think the mistake you are making is in believing that Cameroons have any principles in the first place.Ninoinoz said:
Really? Why start now?fitalass said:Any Conservative Leader that decides to form a pact with UKIP would cross my red line and end my support for the party.
TheScreamingEagles said:Hmmm despite the spin, a majority of Tories are opposed to a pact with UKIP
When we last asked Conservative members in our monthly survey whether or not the Party should form a pact with UKIP for the next election, they divided a third for, a third against and a third not knowing (34 per cent, 33 per cent and 33 per cent, to be precise).
The best part of nine month months on, the percentage not knowing has been whittled down to a nugatory five per cent. The proportion wanting a deal is up to 41 per cent – just over two in five Tory activists, as I say. 54 per cent, the majority, are against
http://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2014/02/two-in-five-tory-members-want-a-pact-with-ukip.html
Your conservative "principles" must be pretty elastic if you're still in the Conservative Party after all the Cameroons have done and said.
Is discarding anything or anyone who might hinder their pursuit of political power a guiding principle?0 -
I think one of the minor reasons people watch The Bridge is to see whether Saga might smile, if only for half a second. And of course she never will because the writers know people are longing for her to do precisely that.0
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Grrr, there's only a part yougov in the Sunday Times.
LDs 8%, UKIP 12%0 -
"Clive James: The end of The Bridge? I might die of despair
Sofia Helin's Saga Noren in The Bridge is a case to be solved in herself, says Clive James":
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/tv-and-radio-reviews/10602238/Clive-James-The-end-of-The-Bridge-I-might-die-of-despair.html0 -
ABBA on BBC channel 4 for the last hour and half; still continuing. Sublime.0
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Sunil, good point, I should have said my clear blue Conservative line.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Blue line, surely?fitalass said:Any Conservative Leader that decides to form a pact with UKIP would cross my red line and end my support for the party.
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'The Bridge' is fantastic enough to make the sometimes ludicrous plot twists believable.0
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I wonder whether the writers were trying to make a point about the vacuity of swanky airport hotels?0
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There's some YouGov polling/Peter Kellner piece in the Sunday Times on the 50p
The effects of the 50p tax rate, part I
54% think Labour will end up raising taxes paid by people on average earnings, not just the rich
28% Say the 50p tax rate will help keep taxes down for those on average earning.
18% DK
The effects of the 50p tax rate, part II
16% Think it will raise significant extra revenue and help Labour reduce the deficit
71% Say rich people will find ways of avoiding the increase, so won't raise much
13% DK
On the effects of the 50p tax rate on foreign businesses investing in the UK
49% say it will have little/no effect on the decisions of foreign business leaders to invest in the UK
32% Disagree and say it will deter foreign business leaders in investing and job opportunities will suffer
19% DK0 -
Iirc (or rather remember reading from twitter) of the 8 seats where incumbent LD MPs are standing down, 6 have been selected, 5 of the 6 candidates are women. (The 6th is Ibrahim Taguri, standing in Brent central).AndyJS said:Two partly Chinese candidates have now been selected in winnable seats: Sarah Yong for the LDs in Somerton & Frome and Sarah Owen for Labour in Hastings & Rye.
The latent question of course being how many manage to hold the seat.0 -
Ah, I have been on Sky Arts watching Bryan Ferry 'Dylanesque' followed by the Roxy Music Story. Fab music.MikeK said:ABBA on BBC channel 4 for the last hour and half; still continuing. Sublime.
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Sunil - Your colours look very... UKIP !0
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TSE - FFS am I carrying the stanchions with the squirrel or not?0
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I'm crying like a disgraced televangelist that I missed something ABBA related on the Telly.0
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Nonsense, that's just your imaginationPulpstar said:Sunil - Your colours look very... UKIP !
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The best period for pop music was roughly 1975-85 IMO. Early 80s is my favourite, probably around 1981-84. At the moment I'm listening to Level 42's first 3 albums, which are amazingly good. They were a jazz/funk/pop band in those days before becoming more mainstream in the mid/late 80s.0
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Some more yougov in the Sunday Times, I'm unamazed by this poll.
A YouGov/Sunday Times survey has found that 56% of men, on meeting a woman, think most or some of the time what they would be like to make love to. The most likely to think about sex at first sight are male professionals aged 25 to 39.
For women, 18% — think of sex the first time they meet a man.0 -
Watched 12 Years a slave at the cinema, Chiwetel Ejiofor gives a very strong performance. An excellent movie.0
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Just got back in from a concert. Missed The Bridge and all the polling.
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For me it was probably 1967 to 1980. As a decade the 70s are very hard to beat. I do havea particular love for the late 70s with the first few albums from Talking Heads, Blondie, Dire Straits, Ian Dury and Squeeze before they all went a bit too professional and smooth.AndyJS said:The best period for pop music was roughly 1975-85 IMO. Early 80s is my favourite, probably around 1981-84. At the moment I'm listening to Level 42's first 3 albums, which are amazingly good. They were a jazz/funk/pop band in those days before becoming more mainstream in the mid/late 80s.
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The 80s were the best!AndyJS said:The best period for pop music was roughly 1975-85 IMO. Early 80s is my favourite, probably around 1981-84. At the moment I'm listening to Level 42's first 3 albums, which are amazingly good. They were a jazz/funk/pop band in those days before becoming more mainstream in the mid/late 80s.
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Holy hell http://www.foc.us/ o_O
Overclock your brain using transcranial Direct Current Stimulation (tDCS) to increase the plasticity of your brain. Make your synapses fire faster.0 -
The butler did it. :-)MikeSmithson said:Just got back in from a concert. Missed The Bridge and all the polling.
There'll be a full round-up in the morning
Seriously, do catch it on iplayer. Quite extraordinary.
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@NickPalmer I've watched every episode at least twice to pick u the nuances. A fantastic series.
There's a Welsh spin off that I've just discovered called "Hinterland" which is really good as well.0 -
TheScreamingEagles said:
Survation on Scottish Westminster and Holyrood VI
Westminster Voting Intention
Conservative – 16%, Labour – 38%, Liberal Democrat – 10%, SNP – 30%, Other – 6%
Holyrood Voting Intention
Conservative – 12%, Labour – 36%, Liberal Democrat – 9%, SNP – 38%, Other – 5%
- See more at: http://survation.com/2014/02/new-polling-on-scottish-independence-what-if-conservative-fortunes-improved/#sthash.giGXIz48.dpuf
SNP is not doing too badly in Westminster polls.TheScreamingEagles said:Survation on Scottish Westminster and Holyrood VI
Westminster Voting Intention
Conservative – 16%, Labour – 38%, Liberal Democrat – 10%, SNP – 30%, Other – 6%
Holyrood Voting Intention
Conservative – 12%, Labour – 36%, Liberal Democrat – 9%, SNP – 38%, Other – 5%
- See more at: http://survation.com/2014/02/new-polling-on-scottish-independence-what-if-conservative-fortunes-improved/#sthash.giGXIz48.dpuf
IN 2010, it was: Lab 42%, SNP 20%, LD 19%, Con 17%.. So despite the headlines, the Tory share has actually gone down. Labour may lose a few seats. However, Labour did add 2.5% in 2010 without gaining a single seat. So there is some insulation in their votes.0 -
I read about that in the Standard today - apparently the series is still on iplayer - but only until tomorrow night!MikeSmithson said:@NickPalmer I've watched every episode at least twice to pick u the nuances. A fantastic series.
There's a Welsh spin off that I've just discovered called "Hinterland" which is really good as well.
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I really regret never catching Fleetwood Mac, ABBA or Blondie live. The Police would have been on that list too if my best friend had not surprised me by getting us amazing seats at their Cardiff gig a few years ago, my first visit to Wales as well. I have to admit that Sting is like a very good vintage wine, he just gets better with age.AndyJS said:
The best period for pop music was roughly 1975-85 IMO. Early 80s is my favourite, probably around 1981-84. At the moment I'm listening to Level 42's first 3 albums, which are amazingly good. They were a jazz/funk/pop band in those days before becoming more mainstream in the mid/late 80s.
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Good interview with the main actors for Bridge groupies here:
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Why does iPlayer have time limits when it's obviously possible to use a video/DVD machine to record programmes and keep them as long as you want? (I found an old video the other day recorded by my mum featuring Ken Hom's original Chinese cookery programme from 1984).
Another gripe is that you can't download radio programmes with iPlayer. Only live streaming is available.0 -
Eagles, is it becoming incredible rare to find a phone poll of Scottish Westminster/Holyrood voting intentions these days?surbiton said:TheScreamingEagles said:
Survation on Scottish Westminster and Holyrood VI
Westminster Voting Intention
Conservative – 16%, Labour – 38%, Liberal Democrat – 10%, SNP – 30%, Other – 6%
Holyrood Voting Intention
Conservative – 12%, Labour – 36%, Liberal Democrat – 9%, SNP – 38%, Other – 5%
- See more at: http://survation.com/2014/02/new-polling-on-scottish-independence-what-if-conservative-fortunes-improved/#sthash.giGXIz48.dpuf
SNP is not doing too badly in Westminster polls.TheScreamingEagles said:Survation on Scottish Westminster and Holyrood VI
Westminster Voting Intention
Conservative – 16%, Labour – 38%, Liberal Democrat – 10%, SNP – 30%, Other – 6%
Holyrood Voting Intention
Conservative – 12%, Labour – 36%, Liberal Democrat – 9%, SNP – 38%, Other – 5%
- See more at: http://survation.com/2014/02/new-polling-on-scottish-independence-what-if-conservative-fortunes-improved/#sthash.giGXIz48.dpuf
IN 2010, it was: Lab 42%, SNP 20%, LD 19%, Con 17%.. So despite the headlines, the Tory share has actually gone down. Labour may lose a few seats. However, Labour did add 2.5% in 2010 without gaining a single seat. So there is some insulation in their votes.0 -
Another gem from the early eighties, Stevie Nicks going solo for a while.
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Polls are open in Thailand. SeanT is still in Bangkok I think.0
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I'm really fascinated by what will happen in Scotland at the next election. We all know the Lib Dems are getting absolutely hammered there even more than elsewhere in the UK, so where are their lost votes going to go? Labour obviously punched well above their weight in Scotland in 2010, and so arguably are operating at near maximum capacity already, so you'd think they maybe won't put on many extra votes. People make a good argument that people see the SNP as a bit of a wasted vote in Westminster elections, especially if they lose the independence referendum. The idea of a Scottish Tory surge doesn't really make much sense. UKIP are apparently not going anywhere there. Those lost Lib Dem votes are going to have to go somewhere, but, curiously, there doesn't seem any party who stands to be the obvious recipient of them.surbiton said:TheScreamingEagles said:Survation on Scottish Westminster and Holyrood VI
Westminster Voting Intention
Conservative – 16%, Labour – 38%, Liberal Democrat – 10%, SNP – 30%, Other – 6%
Holyrood Voting Intention
Conservative – 12%, Labour – 36%, Liberal Democrat – 9%, SNP – 38%, Other – 5%
- See more at: http://survation.com/2014/02/new-polling-on-scottish-independence-what-if-conservative-fortunes-improved/#sthash.giGXIz48.dpuf
SNP is not doing too badly in Westminster polls.TheScreamingEagles said:Survation on Scottish Westminster and Holyrood VI
Westminster Voting Intention
Conservative – 16%, Labour – 38%, Liberal Democrat – 10%, SNP – 30%, Other – 6%
Holyrood Voting Intention
Conservative – 12%, Labour – 36%, Liberal Democrat – 9%, SNP – 38%, Other – 5%
- See more at: http://survation.com/2014/02/new-polling-on-scottish-independence-what-if-conservative-fortunes-improved/#sthash.giGXIz48.dpuf
IN 2010, it was: Lab 42%, SNP 20%, LD 19%, Con 17%.. So despite the headlines, the Tory share has actually gone down. Labour may lose a few seats. However, Labour did add 2.5% in 2010 without gaining a single seat. So there is some insulation in their votes.0 -
Even trashy pop from the early 80s tends to be worth listening to I find, especially when produced by the likes of Trevor Horn and Arif Mardin.0
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This is the core of their problem. The voters may agree with them on the policy, but it'll still cost them votes if it worsens a general branding problem on tax and/or the economy.TheScreamingEagles said:54% think Labour will end up raising taxes paid by people on average earnings, not just the rich
28% Say the 50p tax rate will help keep taxes down for those on average earning.
That said, what are the equivalent numbers for the Tories ending up raising taxes paid by people on average earnings? Maybe the voters perceive (correctly, IMHO) that taxes are going up whoever wins.0 -
Your really not getting it on this issue living abroad. Labour took the 10p tax rate away from the lowest earners to fund a 2p tax cut for middle income earners in Gordon Brown's last budget as Chancellor before he entered No10. Most of those low income earners didn't really understand the slight of hand or the impact of what he had done until they opened their pay packets the following year, but it was debated here on PB at the time, and right up until it really impacted on those lowest earners. Brown and his Government on the other hand, only then increased the top rate of tax for the highest earners 57 days before he left Office. He also gave David Cameron as the next PM a pay cut about that time too.
Right now, Osborne has dropped the highest rate from 50p to 45p, but the richest earners continue to pay far more under this government than they ever did over the 13 years that Labour were in power. The lowest earners on the other hand, have now been lifted out of paying income tax at all. The Conservative party is in favour of lower taxes, the Labour party are not. So no, the voters don't currently perceive that the Tories intend to raise taxes for anyone after the GE.edmundintokyo said:
This is the core of their problem. The voters may agree with them on the policy, but it'll still cost them votes if it worsens a general branding problem on tax and/or the economy.TheScreamingEagles said:54% think Labour will end up raising taxes paid by people on average earnings, not just the rich
28% Say the 50p tax rate will help keep taxes down for those on average earning.
That said, what are the equivalent numbers for the Tories ending up raising taxes paid by people on average earnings? Maybe the voters perceive (correctly, IMHO) that taxes are going up whoever wins.0 -
@edmundintokyo
'This is the core of their problem. The voters may agree with them on the policy, but it'll still cost them votes if it worsens a general branding problem on tax and/or the economy.'
It's in Labour's DNA to increase taxes whether there's an economic crisis or not,long before the crash of 20008 we had NI hikes,the doubling of council tax and of course the 10p rate scrapped.0