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My first act as Directly Elected Dictator Prime Minister will be to ban pineapple on pizza.RobD said:
Who defines reasonable? Can’t the government declare product X illegal tomorrow, I thought Parliament was sovereign?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I cannot understand it unless the legal advice was that a judicial challenge by the gambling industry was possible if the notice period was unreasonableJosiasJessop said:Tracey Crouch's resignation is an utterly avoidable fuck-up by the government.
A question: does anyone actually defend FOBTs?
(And BTW, it's a shame iSam is not on for this; I had my disagreements with him, but he was bang-on about this at a time it was not generally on the radar.)
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Big mistake - it's useful to know who are the people who like such things.TheScreamingEagles said:
My first act as Directly Elected Dictator Prime Minister will be to ban pineapple on pizza.RobD said:
Who defines reasonable? Can’t the government declare product X illegal tomorrow, I thought Parliament was sovereign?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I cannot understand it unless the legal advice was that a judicial challenge by the gambling industry was possible if the notice period was unreasonableJosiasJessop said:Tracey Crouch's resignation is an utterly avoidable fuck-up by the government.
A question: does anyone actually defend FOBTs?
(And BTW, it's a shame iSam is not on for this; I had my disagreements with him, but he was bang-on about this at a time it was not generally on the radar.)0 -
And mine would be to double all taxes on people who buy Apple products, which cannot even survive a little contact with Helium.TheScreamingEagles said:
My first act as Directly Elected Dictator Prime Minister will be to ban pineapple on pizza.RobD said:
Who defines reasonable? Can’t the government declare product X illegal tomorrow, I thought Parliament was sovereign?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I cannot understand it unless the legal advice was that a judicial challenge by the gambling industry was possible if the notice period was unreasonableJosiasJessop said:Tracey Crouch's resignation is an utterly avoidable fuck-up by the government.
A question: does anyone actually defend FOBTs?
(And BTW, it's a shame iSam is not on for this; I had my disagreements with him, but he was bang-on about this at a time it was not generally on the radar.)
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An act which unleashes a fierce violent resistance from the Pineapple Liberation Front, the Liberation Front of Pineapple, the Popular Pineapple Front, Pineapple Republican Army, Pineapple National Liberation Army, Pineapple Volunteer Force, Pineapple Defence Association, and the Pineapple People's Front.TheScreamingEagles said:
My first act as Directly Elected Dictator Prime Minister will be to ban pineapple on pizza.RobD said:
Who defines reasonable? Can’t the government declare product X illegal tomorrow, I thought Parliament was sovereign?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I cannot understand it unless the legal advice was that a judicial challenge by the gambling industry was possible if the notice period was unreasonableJosiasJessop said:Tracey Crouch's resignation is an utterly avoidable fuck-up by the government.
A question: does anyone actually defend FOBTs?
(And BTW, it's a shame iSam is not on for this; I had my disagreements with him, but he was bang-on about this at a time it was not generally on the radar.)0 -
Ken is a lefty, and an anti-Semite. Corbyn is the same.Anazina said:
What has Ken’s mayoral trip to Venezuela got to do with Corbyn?JosiasJessop said:
He'd neglect anyone or anything that doesn't fit into his narrow left-wing, anti-Semitic and terrorist-supporting worldview, however deserved.Stereotomy said:I could never be completely sure that any government would spend their money well. I'd have to wait for the manifesto/campaign to get a better sense of where it'd be going. Out of interest, what do you think is the real need he'd neglect, and the peripheries he'd spend on instead?
As an example, when MoL, Ken Livingstone with Chavez to get cheap oil from Venezuela. History will show this as being of virtually no benefit to Londoners, and a massive negative to Venezuelans. It helped Chavez and his regime, however.
Please forgive the Mail link:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3192933/Hugo-Chavez-s-ambassador-daughter-Venezuela-s-richest-woman-according-new-report.html
They are also friends.
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In regard to your last paragraph my experience with my late sister was that the £39,500 annual cost paid under continuing care at her nursing home was substantially less than private patients paid to close the shortfall in running costs. The increasing national living wage has caused major problems and there is hardly a private nursing home making profits and many have closedstodge said:
I'd pay more in tax to ensure the elderly are treated with dignity and proper care. We all have a responsibility and a duty to ensure older people get to enjoy their latter years and are treated with respect.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You may find that that is not a view widely held by many.
Tax rises are ok by the public unless they are mine
I don't think that can happen when so much care home provision seems to operate more on the basis of the Owners making money than on providing proper care and respect for those being looked after (and that includes paying the staff decent living wages)
No one is addressing social care as it is almost impossible to see where the additional 30 billion a year is going to come from other than peoples homes, and we all know how that ended0 -
Ouch.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Mr Kipper???rpjs said:FPT - Any confirmation of this?
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I know the people, they are people are without taste, they are lucky I don't deny them the vote.kle4 said:
Big mistake - it's useful to know who are the people who like such things.TheScreamingEagles said:
My first act as Directly Elected Dictator Prime Minister will be to ban pineapple on pizza.RobD said:
Who defines reasonable? Can’t the government declare product X illegal tomorrow, I thought Parliament was sovereign?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I cannot understand it unless the legal advice was that a judicial challenge by the gambling industry was possible if the notice period was unreasonableJosiasJessop said:Tracey Crouch's resignation is an utterly avoidable fuck-up by the government.
A question: does anyone actually defend FOBTs?
(And BTW, it's a shame iSam is not on for this; I had my disagreements with him, but he was bang-on about this at a time it was not generally on the radar.)0 -
Not really relevant at all though is it? Your logic is failing you this evening.JosiasJessop said:
Ken is a lefty, and an anti-Semite. Corbyn is the same.Anazina said:
What has Ken’s mayoral trip to Venezuela got to do with Corbyn?JosiasJessop said:
He'd neglect anyone or anything that doesn't fit into his narrow left-wing, anti-Semitic and terrorist-supporting worldview, however deserved.Stereotomy said:I could never be completely sure that any government would spend their money well. I'd have to wait for the manifesto/campaign to get a better sense of where it'd be going. Out of interest, what do you think is the real need he'd neglect, and the peripheries he'd spend on instead?
As an example, when MoL, Ken Livingstone with Chavez to get cheap oil from Venezuela. History will show this as being of virtually no benefit to Londoners, and a massive negative to Venezuelans. It helped Chavez and his regime, however.
Please forgive the Mail link:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3192933/Hugo-Chavez-s-ambassador-daughter-Venezuela-s-richest-woman-according-new-report.html
They are also friends.
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I've put a few more pennies on her for next Tory leader.... over 800-1 on Betfair exchange...RobD said:Good for Tracey Crouch. What an own goal by the government.
We Spurs fans stick together!0 -
With no carers , due to them being mostly Filipino or from other countries, being paid minimum wage, intolerable conditions and work demands, there is no chance of them being replaced by UK citizens. I've seen them, respected them, and there is no way I would want to do it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
In regard to your last paragraph my experience with my late sister was that the £39,500 annual cost paid under continuing care at her nursing home was substantially less than private patients paid to close the shortfall in running costs. The increasing national living wage has caused major problems and there is hardly a private nursing home making profits and many have closedstodge said:
I'd pay more in tax to ensure the elderly are treated with dignity and proper care. We all have a responsibility and a duty to ensure older people get to enjoy their latter years and are treated with respect.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You may find that that is not a view widely held by many.
Tax rises are ok by the public unless they are mine
I don't think that can happen when so much care home provision seems to operate more on the basis of the Owners making money than on providing proper care and respect for those being looked after (and that includes paying the staff decent living wages)
No one is addressing social care as it is almost impossible to see where the additional 30 billion a year is going to come from other than peoples homes, and we all know how that ended0 -
Splitters (or is that the bananas)?Sunil_Prasannan said:
An act which unleashes a fierce violent resistance from the Pineapple Liberation Front, the Liberation Front of Pineapple, the Popular Pineapple Front, Pineapple Republican Army, Pineapple National Liberation Army, Pineapple Volunteer Force, Pineapple Defence Association, and the Pineapple People's Front.TheScreamingEagles said:
My first act as Directly Elected Dictator Prime Minister will be to ban pineapple on pizza.RobD said:
Who defines reasonable? Can’t the government declare product X illegal tomorrow, I thought Parliament was sovereign?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I cannot understand it unless the legal advice was that a judicial challenge by the gambling industry was possible if the notice period was unreasonableJosiasJessop said:Tracey Crouch's resignation is an utterly avoidable fuck-up by the government.
A question: does anyone actually defend FOBTs?
(And BTW, it's a shame iSam is not on for this; I had my disagreements with him, but he was bang-on about this at a time it was not generally on the radar.)0 -
She's awesome.Scrapheap_as_was said:
I've put a few more pennies on her for next Tory leader.... over 800-1 on Betfair exchange...RobD said:Good for Tracey Crouch. What an own goal by the government.
We Spurs fans stick together!
Crouch for PM now.0 -
My first act would be to ban all screenings of The Last Jedi outside penitentiaries, where twice daily watching will be compulsory.TheScreamingEagles said:
My first act as Directly Elected Dictator Prime Minister will be to ban pineapple on pizza.RobD said:
Who defines reasonable? Can’t the government declare product X illegal tomorrow, I thought Parliament was sovereign?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I cannot understand it unless the legal advice was that a judicial challenge by the gambling industry was possible if the notice period was unreasonableJosiasJessop said:Tracey Crouch's resignation is an utterly avoidable fuck-up by the government.
A question: does anyone actually defend FOBTs?
(And BTW, it's a shame iSam is not on for this; I had my disagreements with him, but he was bang-on about this at a time it was not generally on the radar.)0 -
Forcing the watching of that every night would surely do wonders for the recidivism rate but we may need to withdraw from the ECHR first.ydoethur said:
My first act would be to ban all screenings of The Last Jedi outside penitentiaries, where twice daily watching will be compulsory.TheScreamingEagles said:
My first act as Directly Elected Dictator Prime Minister will be to ban pineapple on pizza.RobD said:
Who defines reasonable? Can’t the government declare product X illegal tomorrow, I thought Parliament was sovereign?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I cannot understand it unless the legal advice was that a judicial challenge by the gambling industry was possible if the notice period was unreasonableJosiasJessop said:Tracey Crouch's resignation is an utterly avoidable fuck-up by the government.
A question: does anyone actually defend FOBTs?
(And BTW, it's a shame iSam is not on for this; I had my disagreements with him, but he was bang-on about this at a time it was not generally on the radar.)0 -
Given the anti Semitic sewer that Banks has been swimming in then I love karma.
Lock him up indeed.0 -
So split it in two - first and third acts.DavidL said:
Forcing the watching of that every night would surely do wonders for the recidivism rate but we may need to withdraw from the ECHR first.ydoethur said:
My first act would be to ban all screenings of The Last Jedi outside penitentiaries, where twice daily watching will be compulsory.TheScreamingEagles said:
My first act as Directly Elected Dictator Prime Minister will be to ban pineapple on pizza.RobD said:
Who defines reasonable? Can’t the government declare product X illegal tomorrow, I thought Parliament was sovereign?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I cannot understand it unless the legal advice was that a judicial challenge by the gambling industry was possible if the notice period was unreasonableJosiasJessop said:Tracey Crouch's resignation is an utterly avoidable fuck-up by the government.
A question: does anyone actually defend FOBTs?
(And BTW, it's a shame iSam is not on for this; I had my disagreements with him, but he was bang-on about this at a time it was not generally on the radar.)0 -
Not sure of your point but my sisters nursing home had lovely staff including a Filipino staff nurse. Their working environment was far from intolerable and most were paid more than the minimum wage. But the bigger point is that this work attracts EU and other immigrants who should be welcome here and that is why Farage and his like disgusts meOchEye said:
With no carers , due to them being mostly Filipino or from other countries, being paid minimum wage, intolerable conditions and work demands, there is no chance of them being replaced by UK citizens. I've seen them, respected them, and there is no way I would want to do it.Big_G_NorthWales said:
In regard to your last paragraph my experience with my late sister was that the £39,500 annual cost paid under continuing care at her nursing home was substantially less than private patients paid to close the shortfall in running costs. The increasing national living wage has caused major problems and there is hardly a private nursing home making profits and many have closedstodge said:
I'd pay more in tax to ensure the elderly are treated with dignity and proper care. We all have a responsibility and a duty to ensure older people get to enjoy their latter years and are treated with respect.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You may find that that is not a view widely held by many.
Tax rises are ok by the public unless they are mine
I don't think that can happen when so much care home provision seems to operate more on the basis of the Owners making money than on providing proper care and respect for those being looked after (and that includes paying the staff decent living wages)
No one is addressing social care as it is almost impossible to see where the additional 30 billion a year is going to come from other than peoples homes, and we all know how that ended0 -
NPxMP says she's a good egg, and from the BBC story...TheScreamingEagles said:
She's awesome.Scrapheap_as_was said:
I've put a few more pennies on her for next Tory leader.... over 800-1 on Betfair exchange...RobD said:Good for Tracey Crouch. What an own goal by the government.
We Spurs fans stick together!
Crouch for PM now.
The 43-year-old MP has represented Chatham and Aylesford, in Kent, since 2010
She was promoted to the front bench as sports minister in 2015
She is known for her opposition to fox hunting and her love of football - she is a qualified FA coach
Grammar school educated at Folkestone School for Girls, she went on to get a degree in law and politics from Hull University
She had worked for various Tory MPs, including Michael Howard and David Davis before standing for election
She had her first child in 2016 and is thought to have been the first Tory minister to take maternity leave0 -
Mr Eagles, I am surprised to hear you enthusiastically embracing a Hindu concept. Has the good Dr Prasannan hacked your account?TheScreamingEagles said:Given the anti Semitic sewer that Banks has been swimming in then I love karma.
Lock him up indeed.0 -
Nah, it is the scientist in me.ydoethur said:
Mr Eagles, I am surprised to hear you enthusiastically embracing a Hindu concept. Has the good Dr Prasannan hacked your account?TheScreamingEagles said:Given the anti Semitic sewer that Banks has been swimming in then I love karma.
Lock him up indeed.
Karma is positively Newtonian, for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.0 -
It is relevant. Why did Ken do that deal? There was no geopolitical advantage, and f'all for Londoners. It was to do with ideology: he liked Chavez's ideology and wanted to line the pockets of Chavez help the people of Venezuela rather than his own constituents.Anazina said:
Not really relevant at all though is it? Your logic is failing you this evening.JosiasJessop said:
Ken is a lefty, and an anti-Semite. Corbyn is the same.Anazina said:
What has Ken’s mayoral trip to Venezuela got to do with Corbyn?JosiasJessop said:
He'd neglect anyone or anything that doesn't fit into his narrow left-wing, anti-Semitic and terrorist-supporting worldview, however deserved.Stereotomy said:I could never be completely sure that any government would spend their money well. I'd have to wait for the manifesto/campaign to get a better sense of where it'd be going. Out of interest, what do you think is the real need he'd neglect, and the peripheries he'd spend on instead?
As an example, when MoL, Ken Livingstone with Chavez to get cheap oil from Venezuela. History will show this as being of virtually no benefit to Londoners, and a massive negative to Venezuelans. It helped Chavez and his regime, however.
Please forgive the Mail link:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3192933/Hugo-Chavez-s-ambassador-daughter-Venezuela-s-richest-woman-according-new-report.html
They are also friends.
Next.
That is exactly what would happen under a Corbyn government. People who fitted his worldview - however rich or immoral or evil - would get help over the poor and/or moral who did not fit his worldview.0 -
I'd be surprised if they couldn't implement the £2 limit overnight on 90%+ of machines (the network-connected ones). The rest a few days max via flash drives.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I cannot understand it unless the legal advice was that a judicial challenge by the gambling industry was possible if the notice period was unreasonable
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The Black Death was in the last 700 years right?Anorak said:If you think us remoaners on here are over the top:
https://twitter.com/Jorvik4/status/10580408459774238770 -
What's her views on grammar schools, might be a deal breaker for me.Scrapheap_as_was said:
NPxMP says she's a good egg, and from the BBC story...TheScreamingEagles said:
She's awesome.Scrapheap_as_was said:
I've put a few more pennies on her for next Tory leader.... over 800-1 on Betfair exchange...RobD said:Good for Tracey Crouch. What an own goal by the government.
We Spurs fans stick together!
Crouch for PM now.
The 43-year-old MP has represented Chatham and Aylesford, in Kent, since 2010
She was promoted to the front bench as sports minister in 2015
She is known for her opposition to fox hunting and her love of football - she is a qualified FA coach
Grammar school educated at Folkestone School for Girls, she went on to get a degree in law and politics from Hull University
She had worked for various Tory MPs, including Michael Howard and David Davis before standing for election
She had her first child in 2016 and is thought to have been the first Tory minister to take maternity leave0 -
Started in England - exact entry point disputed - in summer 1348. So 670 years ago.Charles said:
The Black Death was in the last 700 years right?Anorak said:If you think us remoaners on here are over the top:
https://twitter.com/Jorvik4/status/1058040845977423877
Edit - so another example of hyperbole. I doubt if 40% of the population will die and entire towns disappear.0 -
Considering all the no-marks that the government has pandered to, could they not have stretched a point for a passionate minister on this occasion?0
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I'm always curious in these sorts of over the top claims how people choose their time period. Why 700, not 800 or 600, or whatever? If it is chosen at random why did 800 seem too much and 600 not enough, if it is not at random, it would be nice if they explained why it was not worse than an event 701 years ago at least.Anorak said:If you think us remoaners on here are over the top:
https://twitter.com/Jorvik4/status/1058040845977423877
Good use of potentially though, totally covered.
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Well, hopefully a Brexiteer will not suggest that would be worth if for the improved economic and social standing of the common man in the decades afterwards.ydoethur said:
Started in England - exact entry point disputed - in summer 1348. So 670 years ago.Charles said:
The Black Death was in the last 700 years right?Anorak said:If you think us remoaners on here are over the top:
https://twitter.com/Jorvik4/status/1058040845977423877
Edit - so another example of hyperbole. I doubt if 40% of the population will die and entire towns disappear.0 -
Just you wait, in the events of medicine shortages due to Brexit I'd expect it to get very very ugly.ydoethur said:
Started in England - exact entry point disputed - in summer 1348. So 670 years ago.Charles said:
The Black Death was in the last 700 years right?Anorak said:If you think us remoaners on here are over the top:
https://twitter.com/Jorvik4/status/1058040845977423877
Edit - so another example of hyperbole. I doubt if 40% of the population will die and entire towns disappear.
Especially for those who promised us a no risk, sunlit upland Brexit.0 -
Just imagine being a survivor of the Black Death. The effect on the psyche must have been extreme. You get a glimpse of it in Piers Plowman but it is hard to imagine just how devastating it must have been.0
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McDonnell is very clever to support the tax cuts. Makes Labour seem cuddly and non-horse scaring; blunts inevitable Tory attacks come next election; casts Tories as party of the selfish 10%.0
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I find it pretty inconceivable how society continued to function to any degree during any such devastating plague. Even assuming a lot of people being left to their own devices and struggling through it, it is astounding.AlastairMeeks said:Just imagine being a survivor of the Black Death. The effect on the psyche must have been extreme. You get a glimpse of it in Piers Plowman but it is hard to imagine just how devastating it must have been.
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"Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong. The Rebellion is reborn today. The war is just beginning. And I will not be the last Jedi."ydoethur said:
My first act would be to ban all screenings of The Last Jedi outside penitentiaries, where twice daily watching will be compulsory.TheScreamingEagles said:
My first act as Directly Elected Dictator Prime Minister will be to ban pineapple on pizza.RobD said:
Who defines reasonable? Can’t the government declare product X illegal tomorrow, I thought Parliament was sovereign?Big_G_NorthWales said:
I cannot understand it unless the legal advice was that a judicial challenge by the gambling industry was possible if the notice period was unreasonableJosiasJessop said:Tracey Crouch's resignation is an utterly avoidable fuck-up by the government.
A question: does anyone actually defend FOBTs?
(And BTW, it's a shame iSam is not on for this; I had my disagreements with him, but he was bang-on about this at a time it was not generally on the radar.)0 -
The 70 was chosen as covering the post war period. The 700 was chosen by adding a nought on that.kle4 said:
I'm always curious in these sorts of over the top claims how people choose their time period. Why 700, not 800 or 600, or whatever? If it is chosen at random why did 800 seem too much and 600 not enough, if it is not at random, it would be nice if they explained why it was not worse than an event 701 years ago at least.Anorak said:If you think us remoaners on here are over the top:
https://twitter.com/Jorvik4/status/1058040845977423877
Good use of potentially though, totally covered.
70 seems fair.0 -
Actually, unlike TSE, I self-identify as an atheistydoethur said:
Mr Eagles, I am surprised to hear you enthusiastically embracing a Hindu concept. Has the good Dr Prasannan hacked your account?TheScreamingEagles said:Given the anti Semitic sewer that Banks has been swimming in then I love karma.
Lock him up indeed.
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There's an entire chapter on it in Colin Platt's King Death, if memory serves, and if you are interested.AlastairMeeks said:Just imagine being a survivor of the Black Death. The effect on the psyche must have been extreme. You get a glimpse of it in Piers Plowman but it is hard to imagine just how devastating it must have been.
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https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/1058096223532601345TheScreamingEagles said:
What's her views on grammar schools, might be a deal breaker for me.Scrapheap_as_was said:
NPxMP says she's a good egg, and from the BBC story...TheScreamingEagles said:
She's awesome.Scrapheap_as_was said:
I've put a few more pennies on her for next Tory leader.... over 800-1 on Betfair exchange...RobD said:Good for Tracey Crouch. What an own goal by the government.
We Spurs fans stick together!
Crouch for PM now.
The 43-year-old MP has represented Chatham and Aylesford, in Kent, since 2010
She was promoted to the front bench as sports minister in 2015
She is known for her opposition to fox hunting and her love of football - she is a qualified FA coach
Grammar school educated at Folkestone School for Girls, she went on to get a degree in law and politics from Hull University
She had worked for various Tory MPs, including Michael Howard and David Davis before standing for election
She had her first child in 2016 and is thought to have been the first Tory minister to take maternity leave0 -
You were the only poster I could think of with either a Hindu or a Buddhist background. And also the only one I can think of who would try to troll TSE in that way...Sunil_Prasannan said:
Actually, unlike TSE, I self-identify as an atheistydoethur said:
Mr Eagles, I am surprised to hear you enthusiastically embracing a Hindu concept. Has the good Dr Prasannan hacked your account?TheScreamingEagles said:Given the anti Semitic sewer that Banks has been swimming in then I love karma.
Lock him up indeed.0 -
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I can imagine this might be the most damaging event for British foreign and trade policy since Suez.AlastairMeeks said:
The 70 was chosen as covering the post war period. The 700 was chosen by adding a nought on that.kle4 said:
I'm always curious in these sorts of over the top claims how people choose their time period. Why 700, not 800 or 600, or whatever? If it is chosen at random why did 800 seem too much and 600 not enough, if it is not at random, it would be nice if they explained why it was not worse than an event 701 years ago at least.Anorak said:If you think us remoaners on here are over the top:
https://twitter.com/Jorvik4/status/1058040845977423877
Good use of potentially though, totally covered.
70 seems fair.
I'm reluctant to go further than that. I'm not sure it will be worse than the botched withdrawal from India, Cyprus or Palestine, for example.0 -
That's as mebbe., but is the God that you don't believe in, a Hindu god?Sunil_Prasannan said:
Actually, unlike TSE, I self-identify as an atheistydoethur said:
Mr Eagles, I am surprised to hear you enthusiastically embracing a Hindu concept. Has the good Dr Prasannan hacked your account?TheScreamingEagles said:Given the anti Semitic sewer that Banks has been swimming in then I love karma.
Lock him up indeed.0 -
The Honours Committee’s wariness to date about awarding anything to Nigel Farage is looking well-judged today.0
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Off-topic:
There is an excellent article in the latest LRB about Ambazonia, a territory in Cameroon that has a secessionist movement. It's an area of the world I know next to nothing about, and I fear the author is more than a little biased, but it's an excellent read on the way lingering colonialism is still affecting people to this day.
https://www.lrb.co.uk/v40/n20/adewale-maja-pearce/prospects-for-ambazonia0 -
The problem for McDonnell he has endorsed the rich receiving tax cuts while the majority of his party are outraged. It is all so comicalGardenwalker said:McDonnell is very clever to support the tax cuts. Makes Labour seem cuddly and non-horse scaring; blunts inevitable Tory attacks come next election; casts Tories as party of the selfish 10%.
And the conservative party are not for the many, or the few, but for everyone0 -
I am a good atheist boy, you see...ydoethur said:
You were the only poster I could think of with either a Hindu or a Buddhist background. And also the only one I can think of who would try to troll TSE in that way...Sunil_Prasannan said:
Actually, unlike TSE, I self-identify as an atheistydoethur said:
Mr Eagles, I am surprised to hear you enthusiastically embracing a Hindu concept. Has the good Dr Prasannan hacked your account?TheScreamingEagles said:Given the anti Semitic sewer that Banks has been swimming in then I love karma.
Lock him up indeed.0 -
I don't think that will catch on, it's too long for people to remember and it will just keep the Labour slogan in peoples' minds.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And the conservative party are not for the many, or the few, but for everyoneGardenwalker said:McDonnell is very clever to support the tax cuts. Makes Labour seem cuddly and non-horse scaring; blunts inevitable Tory attacks come next election; casts Tories as party of the selfish 10%.
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The worst thing to happen to our country. Awful though the partition to India in particular was, it didn’t happen to our country.ydoethur said:
I can imagine this might be the most damaging event for British foreign and trade policy since Suez.AlastairMeeks said:
The 70 was chosen as covering the post war period. The 700 was chosen by adding a nought on that.kle4 said:
I'm always curious in these sorts of over the top claims how people choose their time period. Why 700, not 800 or 600, or whatever? If it is chosen at random why did 800 seem too much and 600 not enough, if it is not at random, it would be nice if they explained why it was not worse than an event 701 years ago at least.Anorak said:If you think us remoaners on here are over the top:
https://twitter.com/Jorvik4/status/1058040845977423877
Good use of potentially though, totally covered.
70 seems fair.
I'm reluctant to go further than that. I'm not sure it will be worse than the botched withdrawal from India, Cyprus or Palestine, for example.0 -
Must say I too am genuinely impressed. She joins the very small band of Tories I would actually vote for (others: Soubry, Wollaston, and the man who features as your avatar).Scrapheap_as_was said:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/1058096223532601345TheScreamingEagles said:
What's her views on grammar schools, might be a deal breaker for me.Scrapheap_as_was said:
NPxMP says she's a good egg, and from the BBC story...TheScreamingEagles said:
She's awesome.Scrapheap_as_was said:
I've put a few more pennies on her for next Tory leader.... over 800-1 on Betfair exchange...RobD said:Good for Tracey Crouch. What an own goal by the government.
We Spurs fans stick together!
Crouch for PM now.
The 43-year-old MP has represented Chatham and Aylesford, in Kent, since 2010
She was promoted to the front bench as sports minister in 2015
She is known for her opposition to fox hunting and her love of football - she is a qualified FA coach
Grammar school educated at Folkestone School for Girls, she went on to get a degree in law and politics from Hull University
She had worked for various Tory MPs, including Michael Howard and David Davis before standing for election
She had her first child in 2016 and is thought to have been the first Tory minister to take maternity leave0 -
I'm an atheist/agnostic in all but name.
I've put my parents through a lot but this might be *it* to push them over the edge if I formally confirmed it.0 -
Sound man.ThomasNashe said:
Must say I too am genuinely impressed. She joins the very small band of Tories I would actually vote for (others: Soubry, Wollaston, and the man who features as your avatar).Scrapheap_as_was said:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/1058096223532601345TheScreamingEagles said:
What's her views on grammar schools, might be a deal breaker for me.Scrapheap_as_was said:
NPxMP says she's a good egg, and from the BBC story...TheScreamingEagles said:
She's awesome.Scrapheap_as_was said:
I've put a few more pennies on her for next Tory leader.... over 800-1 on Betfair exchange...RobD said:Good for Tracey Crouch. What an own goal by the government.
We Spurs fans stick together!
Crouch for PM now.
The 43-year-old MP has represented Chatham and Aylesford, in Kent, since 2010
She was promoted to the front bench as sports minister in 2015
She is known for her opposition to fox hunting and her love of football - she is a qualified FA coach
Grammar school educated at Folkestone School for Girls, she went on to get a degree in law and politics from Hull University
She had worked for various Tory MPs, including Michael Howard and David Davis before standing for election
She had her first child in 2016 and is thought to have been the first Tory minister to take maternity leave0 -
Perhaps TMay was faced with an ultimatum by Esther McVey, who is strongly in favour of high FOBT stakes. She might have lost a Minister either way and decided that losing Tracey Crouch would cause her less damage.AlastairMeeks said:Considering all the no-marks that the government has pandered to, could they not have stretched a point for a passionate minister on this occasion?
"Ms McVey is in a relationship with fellow Tory MP Philip Davies, who has been an outspoken defender of FOBT machines in the House of Commons, and has accepted thousands of pounds worth of hospitality from bookmakers"
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/esther-mcvey-lodges-protest-against-125108760 -
Too many gods (and goddesses) in Hinduism!Foxy said:
That's as mebbe., but is the God that you don't believe in, a Hindu god?Sunil_Prasannan said:
Actually, unlike TSE, I self-identify as an atheistydoethur said:
Mr Eagles, I am surprised to hear you enthusiastically embracing a Hindu concept. Has the good Dr Prasannan hacked your account?TheScreamingEagles said:Given the anti Semitic sewer that Banks has been swimming in then I love karma.
Lock him up indeed.0 -
And calling form him to be installed as PM looks a touch impetuous in hindsight.AlastairMeeks said:The Honours Committee’s wariness to date about awarding anything to Nigel Farage is looking well-judged today.
https://twitter.com/MelanieLatest/status/1016252131832139776?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1016256499423866880&ref_url=https://www.indy100.com/article/melanie-phillips-nigel-farage-twitter-uk-prime-minister-brexit-theresa-may-leave-eu-84391610 -
I'm doing a Ken as Churchill, No Deal is Norway/Fall of France thread.Scrapheap_as_was said:
Sound man.ThomasNashe said:
Must say I too am genuinely impressed. She joins the very small band of Tories I would actually vote for (others: Soubry, Wollaston, and the man who features as your avatar).Scrapheap_as_was said:
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/1058096223532601345TheScreamingEagles said:
What's her views on grammar schools, might be a deal breaker for me.Scrapheap_as_was said:
NPxMP says she's a good egg, and from the BBC story...TheScreamingEagles said:
She's awesome.Scrapheap_as_was said:
I've put a few more pennies on her for next Tory leader.... over 800-1 on Betfair exchange...RobD said:Good for Tracey Crouch. What an own goal by the government.
We Spurs fans stick together!
Crouch for PM now.
The 43-year-old MP has represented Chatham and Aylesford, in Kent, since 2010
She was promoted to the front bench as sports minister in 2015
She is known for her opposition to fox hunting and her love of football - she is a qualified FA coach
Grammar school educated at Folkestone School for Girls, she went on to get a degree in law and politics from Hull University
She had worked for various Tory MPs, including Michael Howard and David Davis before standing for election
She had her first child in 2016 and is thought to have been the first Tory minister to take maternity leave0 -
https://twitter.com/ByRobDavies/status/1058060286228393986BudG said:
Perhaps TMay was faced with an ultimatum by Esther McVey, who is strongly in favour of high FOBT stakes. She might have lost a Minister either way and decided that losing Tracey Crouch would cause her less damage.AlastairMeeks said:Considering all the no-marks that the government has pandered to, could they not have stretched a point for a passionate minister on this occasion?
"Ms McVey is in a relationship with fellow Tory MP Philip Davies, who has been an outspoken defender of FOBT machines in the House of Commons, and has accepted thousands of pounds worth of hospitality from bookmakers"
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/esther-mcvey-lodges-protest-against-125108760 -
I don't think that many would have thought it looked a great idea even at the time!Stark_Dawning said:
And calling form him to be installed as PM looks a touch impetuous in hindsight.AlastairMeeks said:The Honours Committee’s wariness to date about awarding anything to Nigel Farage is looking well-judged today.
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A score of six or lower on two six-sided dice added together approximates the probability of dying from the Black Death. So back when my daughter was about seven I had her and her best friend sit down and make a list of all the people they knew - family, friends, teachers, etc - and then roll two dice for everyone on the list.AlastairMeeks said:Just imagine being a survivor of the Black Death. The effect on the psyche must have been extreme. You get a glimpse of it in Piers Plowman but it is hard to imagine just how devastating it must have been.
I didn't take it to the next stage of pretending for the next week that everyone who was dead on the list was actually dead, but I think it made an impression.0 -
I recall a story, perhaps urban myth, of a Hindu who frequented bars in NI, and was often quizzed at length over whether he was a Protestant Hindu or a Catholic Hindu.Foxy said:
That's as mebbe., but is the God that you don't believe in, a Hindu god?Sunil_Prasannan said:
Actually, unlike TSE, I self-identify as an atheistydoethur said:
Mr Eagles, I am surprised to hear you enthusiastically embracing a Hindu concept. Has the good Dr Prasannan hacked your account?TheScreamingEagles said:Given the anti Semitic sewer that Banks has been swimming in then I love karma.
Lock him up indeed.0 -
"The Brits partitioned my country too, you know!"Pro_Rata said:
I recall a story, perhaps urban myth, of a Hindu who frequented bars in NI, and was often quizzed at length over whether he was a Protestant Hindu or a Catholic Hindu.Foxy said:
That's as mebbe., but is the God that you don't believe in, a Hindu god?Sunil_Prasannan said:
Actually, unlike TSE, I self-identify as an atheistydoethur said:
Mr Eagles, I am surprised to hear you enthusiastically embracing a Hindu concept. Has the good Dr Prasannan hacked your account?TheScreamingEagles said:Given the anti Semitic sewer that Banks has been swimming in then I love karma.
Lock him up indeed.
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I could actually buy that as a theory. It is at least an explanation for something that is otherwise inexplicable.BudG said:
Perhaps TMay was faced with an ultimatum by Esther McVey, who is strongly in favour of high FOBT stakes. She might have lost a Minister either way and decided that losing Tracey Crouch would cause her less damage.AlastairMeeks said:Considering all the no-marks that the government has pandered to, could they not have stretched a point for a passionate minister on this occasion?
"Ms McVey is in a relationship with fellow Tory MP Philip Davies, who has been an outspoken defender of FOBT machines in the House of Commons, and has accepted thousands of pounds worth of hospitality from bookmakers"
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/esther-mcvey-lodges-protest-against-125108760 -
Plenty to not believe in then!Sunil_Prasannan said:
Too many gods (and goddesses) in Hinduism!Foxy said:
That's as mebbe., but is the God that you don't believe in, a Hindu god?Sunil_Prasannan said:
Actually, unlike TSE, I self-identify as an atheistydoethur said:
Mr Eagles, I am surprised to hear you enthusiastically embracing a Hindu concept. Has the good Dr Prasannan hacked your account?TheScreamingEagles said:Given the anti Semitic sewer that Banks has been swimming in then I love karma.
Lock him up indeed.0 -
Theresa May's going to be feeling sicker than a cyclist with piles after that endorsement of Tracey Crouch by the Archbishop of Canterbury what with Mrs May being a vicar's daughter.0
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The tent can only get so big before it collapses under its own contradictions.Big_G_NorthWales said:
The problem for McDonnell he has endorsed the rich receiving tax cuts while the majority of his party are outraged. It is all so comical
And the conservative party are not for the many, or the few, but for everyone
No party can be "for everyone" except by going to the lowest common denominator or to meaningless platitudes and soundbites like "our precious union" and "hard working families".
Are you for the bookmaker, the gambler and the gambling addict at the same time?
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Personally I would have banned them immediately and it looks like an own goalstodge said:
The tent can only get so big before it collapses under its own contradictions.Big_G_NorthWales said:
The problem for McDonnell he has endorsed the rich receiving tax cuts while the majority of his party are outraged. It is all so comical
And the conservative party are not for the many, or the few, but for everyone
No party can be "for everyone" except by going to the lowest common denominator or to meaningless platitudes and soundbites like "our precious union" and "hard working families".
Are you for the bookmaker, the gambler and the gambling addict at the same time?0 -
He was never suitable as PM.kle4 said:
I don't think that many would have thought it looked a great idea even at the time!Stark_Dawning said:
And calling form him to be installed as PM looks a touch impetuous in hindsight.AlastairMeeks said:The Honours Committee’s wariness to date about awarding anything to Nigel Farage is looking well-judged today.
President of the European Commission was more his line.0 -
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It was revealed recently that potential nominees are screened for financial impropriety and that agencies such as HMRC effectively have a veto.AlastairMeeks said:The Honours Committee’s wariness to date about awarding anything to Nigel Farage is looking well-judged today.
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Better hope the panic story provokes a sizable donation to shore things up. Are there no rich Tory opponents who cannot stand Corbyn who could help out?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
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Judge politicians and parties by who they are against, not who they are for. The Conservatives are currently against the outward looking, the confident, the young and the smart workers and the hopeful in favour of the insular, the surly, the fearful and the retired. Most of these are sharp reversals of recent positions.stodge said:
The tent can only get so big before it collapses under its own contradictions.Big_G_NorthWales said:
The problem for McDonnell he has endorsed the rich receiving tax cuts while the majority of his party are outraged. It is all so comical
And the conservative party are not for the many, or the few, but for everyone
No party can be "for everyone" except by going to the lowest common denominator or to meaningless platitudes and soundbites like "our precious union" and "hard working families".
Are you for the bookmaker, the gambler and the gambling addict at the same time?
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The only crumb of comfort I could offer is that when the Liberals laid off most of their staff after one disastrous election where they lost three-quarters of their MPs and another where they made a very slight recovery, at the following election they increased the number of seats they held by a fifth.TheScreamingEagles said:
The downside is that they were split three ways, the country was in crisis due to a vast budget deficit, protectionism was being brought in and the Conservatives won 473 seats.
So I'm not sure that's encouraging.
Surely however this is the final sign that Vince needs to go? Admittedly that will make him the third leader in the last four to have served less than three years.0 -
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"Dad, can't we just play Monopoly instead?"OblitusSumMe said:
A score of six or lower on two six-sided dice added together approximates the probability of dying from the Black Death. So back when my daughter was about seven I had her and her best friend sit down and make a list of all the people they knew - family, friends, teachers, etc - and then roll two dice for everyone on the list.AlastairMeeks said:Just imagine being a survivor of the Black Death. The effect on the psyche must have been extreme. You get a glimpse of it in Piers Plowman but it is hard to imagine just how devastating it must have been.
I didn't take it to the next stage of pretending for the next week that everyone who was dead on the list was actually dead, but I think it made an impression.0 -
I don't quite understand how someone cannot be fibbing here, since how could people so intimately involved not be aware of when something was planned for? But why fib?Scott_P said:0 -
I think it more likely that May & Hammond have four tin ears between 'em. I'm sure both have admirable qualities, but neither are terribly good at this whole politician wossname.AlastairMeeks said:
I could actually buy that as a theory. It is at least an explanation for something that is otherwise inexplicable.BudG said:
Perhaps TMay was faced with an ultimatum by Esther McVey, who is strongly in favour of high FOBT stakes. She might have lost a Minister either way and decided that losing Tracey Crouch would cause her less damage.AlastairMeeks said:Considering all the no-marks that the government has pandered to, could they not have stretched a point for a passionate minister on this occasion?
"Ms McVey is in a relationship with fellow Tory MP Philip Davies, who has been an outspoken defender of FOBT machines in the House of Commons, and has accepted thousands of pounds worth of hospitality from bookmakers"
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/esther-mcvey-lodges-protest-against-125108760 -
There's an old Billy Connolly gag about taking a friend up from London to the Scottish Cup final, an Old Firm game:Pro_Rata said:
I recall a story, perhaps urban myth, of a Hindu who frequented bars in NI, and was often quizzed at length over whether he was a Protestant Hindu or a Catholic Hindu.Foxy said:
That's as mebbe., but is the God that you don't believe in, a Hindu god?Sunil_Prasannan said:
Actually, unlike TSE, I self-identify as an atheistydoethur said:
Mr Eagles, I am surprised to hear you enthusiastically embracing a Hindu concept. Has the good Dr Prasannan hacked your account?TheScreamingEagles said:Given the anti Semitic sewer that Banks has been swimming in then I love karma.
Lock him up indeed.
'Aye, but are you a Protestant Jew, or a Catholic Jew?'0 -
I'm sure Remainers will, as one Eurocritter, put their hands in their pockets to save Uncle Vince.kle4 said:
Better hope the panic story provokes a sizable donation to shore things up. Are there no rich Tory opponents who cannot stand Corbyn who could help out?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
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There has been a conscious decision taken to let Tracey Crouch resign over this.John_M said:
I think it more likely that May & Hammond have four tin ears between 'em. I'm sure both have admirable qualities, but neither are terribly good at this whole politician wossname.AlastairMeeks said:
I could actually buy that as a theory. It is at least an explanation for something that is otherwise inexplicable.BudG said:
Perhaps TMay was faced with an ultimatum by Esther McVey, who is strongly in favour of high FOBT stakes. She might have lost a Minister either way and decided that losing Tracey Crouch would cause her less damage.AlastairMeeks said:Considering all the no-marks that the government has pandered to, could they not have stretched a point for a passionate minister on this occasion?
"Ms McVey is in a relationship with fellow Tory MP Philip Davies, who has been an outspoken defender of FOBT machines in the House of Commons, and has accepted thousands of pounds worth of hospitality from bookmakers"
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/esther-mcvey-lodges-protest-against-125108760 -
Not all of the party by some distanceAlastairMeeks said:
Judge politicians and parties by who they are against, not who they are for. The Conservatives are currently against the outward looking, the confident, the young and the smart workers and the hopeful in favour of the insular, the surly, the fearful and the retired. Most of these are sharp reversals of recent positions.stodge said:
The tent can only get so big before it collapses under its own contradictions.Big_G_NorthWales said:
The problem for McDonnell he has endorsed the rich receiving tax cuts while the majority of his party are outraged. It is all so comical
And the conservative party are not for the many, or the few, but for everyone
No party can be "for everyone" except by going to the lowest common denominator or to meaningless platitudes and soundbites like "our precious union" and "hard working families".
Are you for the bookmaker, the gambler and the gambling addict at the same time?0 -
Compared with how things were for the nascent Liberal Democrats in 1989 this is nothing.TheScreamingEagles said:
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Academic convention, buttressed by grammar and aesthetics, would suggest after.TheScreamingEagles said:Before the full stop for me.
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That was the date I had in mind but I wasn’t sureydoethur said:
Started in England - exact entry point disputed - in summer 1348. So 670 years ago.Charles said:
The Black Death was in the last 700 years right?Anorak said:If you think us remoaners on here are over the top:
https://twitter.com/Jorvik4/status/1058040845977423877
Edit - so another example of hyperbole. I doubt if 40% of the population will die and entire towns disappear.0 -
That's even up for debate?! Why wouldn't it? Visually it looks strange for it to be after. Certainly it was not something anyone ever upbraided us for at Uni, and they were quite hot on most referencing.TheScreamingEagles said:Before the full stop for me.
https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1057949028187623424
The one that gets me, and I'm sure there is a reason for it I just do not know, is putting two spaces after a full stop. I have to change so many reports which do that, my brain cannot accept it.0 -
It’s worth going to the Museum of London - they have a very effective short film on it.AlastairMeeks said:Just imagine being a survivor of the Black Death. The effect on the psyche must have been extreme. You get a glimpse of it in Piers Plowman but it is hard to imagine just how devastating it must have been.
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Dear oh dear Mr Eagles.TheScreamingEagles said:Before the full stop for me.
https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1057949028187623424
It's as well for you you were at Cambridge rather than a University that cared about such things.0 -
Seems like it. Politics heyAlastairMeeks said:
There has been a conscious decision taken to let Tracey Crouch resign over this.John_M said:
I think it more likely that May & Hammond have four tin ears between 'em. I'm sure both have admirable qualities, but neither are terribly good at this whole politician wossname.AlastairMeeks said:
I could actually buy that as a theory. It is at least an explanation for something that is otherwise inexplicable.BudG said:
Perhaps TMay was faced with an ultimatum by Esther McVey, who is strongly in favour of high FOBT stakes. She might have lost a Minister either way and decided that losing Tracey Crouch would cause her less damage.AlastairMeeks said:Considering all the no-marks that the government has pandered to, could they not have stretched a point for a passionate minister on this occasion?
"Ms McVey is in a relationship with fellow Tory MP Philip Davies, who has been an outspoken defender of FOBT machines in the House of Commons, and has accepted thousands of pounds worth of hospitality from bookmakers"
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/esther-mcvey-lodges-protest-against-125108760 -
I love the Oxford comma.ydoethur said:
Dear oh dear Mr Eagles.TheScreamingEagles said:Before the full stop for me.
https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1057949028187623424
It's as well for you you were at Cambridge rather than a University that cared about such things.0 -
Testify.kle4 said:
That's even up for debate?! Why wouldn't it? Visually it looks strange for it to be after. Certainly it was not something anyone ever upbraided us for at Uni, and they were quite hot on most referencing.TheScreamingEagles said:Before the full stop for me.
https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1057949028187623424
The one that gets me, and I'm sure there is a reason for it I just do not know, is putting two spaces after a full stop. I have to change so many reports which do that, my brain cannot accept it.0 -
I do. I thought the legislation ill-thought out and based on dubious axioms and logic. I think gambling is neutral not bad, and there was no linkage established between the putative problem (gambling bad) and the legislation itself (limit FOBT stakes).JosiasJessop said:A question: does anyone actually defend FOBTs?
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For myself I prefer an Irish redhead, but tastes differ.TheScreamingEagles said:
I love the Oxford comma.ydoethur said:
Dear oh dear Mr Eagles.TheScreamingEagles said:Before the full stop for me.
https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1057949028187623424
It's as well for you you were at Cambridge rather than a University that cared about such things.0 -
I married a quarter Irish redhead.ydoethur said:
For myself I prefer an Irish redhead, but tastes differ.TheScreamingEagles said:
I love the Oxford comma.ydoethur said:
Dear oh dear Mr Eagles.TheScreamingEagles said:Before the full stop for me.
https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1057949028187623424
It's as well for you you were at Cambridge rather than a University that cared about such things.0 -
Apple, the world’s first company to be valued at $1 trillion, continues to grow at speed and has announced a double-digit increase in revenue.
Slightly exceeding projected revenues, with $62.9bn, the tech giant is up roughly 20% over last year.
The CEO, Tim Cook, and CFO, Luca Maestri, cited strong performances from services like iCloud, Apple Music, and the App Store, which reached an all time high of $10bn.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/nov/01/apple-revenue-report-quarter-record-breaking?CMP=twt_gu0 -
Do you mean she was a quarter Irish and a redhead, or a quarter of her head was Irish and red?TheScreamingEagles said:
I married a quarter Irish redhead.ydoethur said:
For myself I prefer an Irish redhead, but tastes differ.TheScreamingEagles said:
I love the Oxford comma.ydoethur said:
Dear oh dear Mr Eagles.TheScreamingEagles said:Before the full stop for me.
https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1057949028187623424
It's as well for you you were at Cambridge rather than a University that cared about such things.
The latter has conjured a strange image...0 -
What colour is the rest of her hair?TheScreamingEagles said:
I married a quarter Irish redhead.ydoethur said:
For myself I prefer an Irish redhead, but tastes differ.TheScreamingEagles said:
I love the Oxford comma.ydoethur said:
Dear oh dear Mr Eagles.TheScreamingEagles said:Before the full stop for me.
https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1057949028187623424
It's as well for you you were at Cambridge rather than a University that cared about such things.0 -
Putting the reference before the comma, unless it is supporting a quote inside the full stop, looks very weird to me.
But not as weird as hyperlinking the 't' only of "it said"...!0 -
Not knowing anything about academic convention, and precious little more about grammar or aesthetics, I'd say it depends. My own style - as much as I have one - is to put small footnotes such as references before a full stop, and larger ones, such as explanations, afterwards.ThomasNashe said:
Academic convention, buttressed by grammar and aesthetics, would suggest after.TheScreamingEagles said:Before the full stop for me.
https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1057949028187623424
My thinking being that small footnotes such as references are almost part of the sentence, and longer ones, which are almost stand-alone pieces of text that can be read on their own are not part of the footnoted sentence.
But this is complicated by what happens when references occur in the middle (1) of the sentence, rather than the end (2).
Then again, I'm probably a heretic.
(1) This is roughly two-thirds of the way through the sentence.
(2) This is the end of the sentence, aside from an ascii 02E.0 -
Wikipedians insist on after.ThomasNashe said:
Academic convention, buttressed by grammar and aesthetics, would suggest after.TheScreamingEagles said:Before the full stop for me.
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I always put two spaces after a full stop. It's just a habit, probably first learned by two finger typing on a typewriter. It just looks better with a bit of extra space between sentences.kle4 said:
That's even up for debate?! Why wouldn't it? Visually it looks strange for it to be after. Certainly it was not something anyone ever upbraided us for at Uni, and they were quite hot on most referencing.TheScreamingEagles said:Before the full stop for me.
https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1057949028187623424
The one that gets me, and I'm sure there is a reason for it I just do not know, is putting two spaces after a full stop. I have to change so many reports which do that, my brain cannot accept it.0
