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Aren’t there cautionary words somewhere about being careful what you wish for, looking before you leap?Foxy said:Belzebub has a devil put aside...
https://twitter.com/dontbrexitfixit/status/1047165840859312128?s=19
Or something like that!0 -
then move to ScotlandSouthamObserver said:
The Scots have an escape path from the hard right English nationalist right that will be controlling my country for the foreseeable future. I envy them greatly.hamiltonace said:I am still not sure how you could implement a hard brexit in Scotland without sending the army in. In effect England would need to invade Scotland. I cannot see the SNP complying with orders to put up borders
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Unskilled workers is a silly term - people in plenty of such jobs still need training for a variety of tasks. So it doesn't strike me as an inherently dumb statement.rcs1000 said:0 -
This is of course the great advantage of being an historian. The number of bad puns is almost limitless.Fysics_Teacher said:
I do use the occasional bad pun for teaching, but unless you need to know the difference between Fleming’s Left Hand Rule and his Right Hand Rule they are not much use.ydoethur said:
At a push, I suppose...Fysics_Teacher said:
It would have been even better as a trip of course...ydoethur said:
And I thought my puns were bad. 'Side tip,' indeed!Fysics_Teacher said:
Defenestration is a good word. I’ve been doing a “word of the week” segment with my registration form and that will be a good one to add to the list. I’ve also been to Prague and went on a side tip to see the window.logical_song said:
It's not always fatal.Ishmael_Z said:
Not if you know,what it means, it doesn't.LordOfReason said:
I love the word defenestrate. Conjures images of pips being cut off shoulders as you have to stand there.grabcocque said:
The response will be no doubt almost "Iain Duncan Smith mere weeks before he was summarily defenestrated" levels of ovation.NickPalmer said:
I'm sure she will.Richard_Nabavi said:
She'll get a good response, I expect.archer101au said:
If she gets booed at her own conference she might be gone tomorrow!Richard_Nabavi said:For the first time since 10pm on 8th June 2017, I beginning to think that Theresa May might stay the course as PM and party leader until the next general election in 2021 or 2022.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/defenestration-of-prague-window
On topic: if Boris gets to be leader of the Coservative party and almost anybody but Corbyn leads Labour, then I will not be voting Tory at the next election for the first time in my life.
It can backfire though. I remember the time I had to teach about the Lewinsky affair in a girl's school - the chapter in the textbook was headlined 'the President after Bush.' That was an - interesting - day...
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Very tempted to buy, but, I'm afraid it would just confirm my total cynicism of the political, economic and media systems of the UK.There has to be hope, however futile....DecrepitJohnL said:
There is a recent book called Bluffocracy which blames the PPE degree in particular for producing politicians, civil servants and journalists adept at quickly mastering briefs well enough for debate (or last minute essays at Oxford) but with no understanding.OchEye said:
The lack of knowledge about modern technology in Parliament is actually rather sweet. Personally I read the comments on The Register website after the latest Government technology announcements, and have to stop myself laughing at the replies by actual experts. Having a PPE or a degree in Law or the Classics can't make a civil servant or cabinet minister an expert in something which is moving forward so fast.. Or the EU, manufacturing, house building, finance, banking and hedge funds, agriculture and fishing,....Dura_Ace said:FPT on Galileo... If you adopt the position, pour la vue de nez, that Williamson is misinformed or ignorant about everything except fireplaces you won't go far wrong.
The Falklands and Ascension Galileo facilities are "Sensor Stations". They download telemetry and relay it to the control centres. They provide NO uplink or control or localised position information. If Galileo lost access to these facilities it means there would be an area over the South Atlantic where data would not be available. As Galileo satellites have an orbital period of 14 hours and 'repeat cycle' of 10 days the black spot would only be a relatively small percentage of each satellite's cycle.
In reality, if Galileo where to be kicked out of the FI and ASI then they would probably build new Sensor Stations on the coast of Chile or Argentina (who would love to fuck us over on this matter) and Cape Verde.
Finally, while the satellite payloads are manufactured the UK they are not made by the UK government owned and directed Royal British Satellite Factory they are made by Airbus Space and Defense. So while the British government could certainly do a Putin/Mugabe style expropriation of the facility it could not stop Airbus using the intellectual property to make them elsewhere.
In conclusion, Willamson is, as usual, talking absolute shit fuelled by crass stupidity.
This theme of Galileo does reappear quite frequently in a squall of ill informed speculation. Maybe I'll write a header on it...
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LOL excellent, give the man a cigar !ydoethur said:
This is of course the great advantage of being an historian. The number of bad puns is almost limitless.Fysics_Teacher said:
I do use the occasional bad pun for teaching, but unless you need to know the difference between Fleming’s Left Hand Rule and his Right Hand Rule they are not much use.ydoethur said:
At a push, I suppose...Fysics_Teacher said:
It would have been even better as a trip of course...ydoethur said:
And I thought my puns were bad. 'Side tip,' indeed!Fysics_Teacher said:
Defenestration is a good word. I’ve been doing a “word of the week” segment with my registration form and that will be a good one to add to the list. I’ve also been to Prague and went on a side tip to see the window.logical_song said:
It's not always fatal.Ishmael_Z said:
Not if you know,what it means, it doesn't.LordOfReason said:
I love the word defenestrate. Conjures images of pips being cut off shoulders as you have to stand there.grabcocque said:
The response will be no doubt almost "Iain Duncan Smith mere weeks before he was summarily defenestrated" levels of ovation.NickPalmer said:
I'm sure she will.Richard_Nabavi said:
She'll get a good response, I expect.archer101au said:
If she gets booed at her own conference she might be gone tomorrow!Richard_Nabavi said:For the first time since 10pm on 8th June 2017, I beginning to think that Theresa May might stay the course as PM and party leader until the next general election in 2021 or 2022.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/defenestration-of-prague-window
On topic: if Boris gets to be leader of the Coservative party and almost anybody but Corbyn leads Labour, then I will not be voting Tory at the next election for the first time in my life.
It can backfire though. I remember the time I had to teach about the Lewinsky affair in a girl's school - the chapter in the textbook was headlined 'the President after Bush.' That was an - interesting - day...
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The conference speech, and then the next summit. How to solve a problem like Salzburg?
Seems to be a lot of EU bashing this week, particularly from Leadership contenders. Farage even boasted Hunt was quoting from the Farage Playbook! Not sure that’s the answer.
If we are honestly looking for answers, Anyone else thinking the problem isn’t all the EU, its us as well? Just looking again at the appalling and disgusting behaviour of the EU at Salzburg summit, what did EU leaders actually say about Chequers that Farage, Davis, Cable, Clegg, Boris et el had not already said? Put me right where I am wrong, but to me if anything the damn foreigners were even politer in their rejection, unless you genuinely believe joke about cherry on cake is more offensive than comparisons with suicide vests?
I recall in build up to 2012 Olympics, lots of hysterical bashing from British media that we are not ready, its disorganised, etc etc that mood swivelled as soon as it began with the magic opening ceremony. However Mitt Romney visiting Britain in the run up merely quoted what British press were screaming, and had a hail of abuse for that. We can knock ourselves, but damn foreigners cant join in! or even say a few honest truths to us. Or reject our offers on unacceptable, underhanded and insulting basis that : its honestly further than they can go?
If everyone from Cable to Boris can say what they said about Chequers and treat May the brutal way they treated her in the build up to the summit, and we react the way we did only to the EU, shocked, mugged, its Britain that needs to see the Doctor, lie down the couch and get our head examined. As a nation we are in denial about what we are becoming: something so full of itself its can’t see its faults, we are lacking the required HUMILITY to be treated the right way by others.
Enough of the EU bashing now, we are becoming perpetually drunk on that shit. Get this moment in our history right is important. With all the spin going on lets not lose sight of the bottom line, the bottom line to learn from the Salzburg summit. The problem with the Salzburg summit was not entirely the EU. The problem with the Salzburg summit was simply Chequers itself, and the bloody useless chief negotiator wedded to it. We need to sober up, dump chequers, dump the red lines which created it, and get some kind of tidy job protecting closure with the EU.0 -
It all seems rather dull, nothing has seemingly approached car crash levrls.hamiltonace said:Anyone think the conference is going well for the tories? It seems like a car crash in slow motion.
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There are also plans for a horizontal-launch facility from Cornwall, near Newquay, potentially along with other sites in North Wales and near Glasgow. I think Virgin Galactic are involved with at least one. AIUI the planes can carry only small payloads into orbit, but by flying over the sea they can get a wide range of orbits unavailable from land.rpjs said:Only good for polar orbits though, although I have a feeling GPS/Galileo/GLONASS satellites are in very highly-inclined orbits anyway. In any case, I expect the biggest obstacle to building a British Galileo (Newton?) system will be establishing the ground station network. Perhaps Pitcairn Island will prove useful at last.
So I guess the question is how big GPS satellites are compared to VG's capability. According to Wiki each GPS satellite weighs about 2t at launch and 1t once on orbit (presumably the difference being propellant), whilst Gallileo sats weight about 700kg. It looks as though VG's LauncherOne will not be able to loft anywhere near that weight.
It's all moot, though: the Russians, SpaceX or eventually BO would launch them - and I doubt the Russian or American governments would object. It'd be expensive, though.0 -
Excellent. It demonstrates yet again how well our University fees are being spent.Morris_Dancer said:Culture war fans might enjoy some of the batshit insane millennial PC tosh that three people managed to get published:
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Ascension Island is almost perfectly situated for a launch facility.rpjs said:
Only good for polar orbits though, although I have a feeling GPS/Galileo/GLONASS satellites are in very highly-inclined orbits anyway. In any case, I expect the biggest obstacle to building a British Galileo (Newton?) system will be establishing the ground station network. Perhaps Pitcairn Island will prove useful at last.Fysics_Teacher said:
I thought we were building a space port in Scotland?Jonathan said:
Going cap in hand to Trump or Putin doesn’t feel like taking back (ground) control.rpjs said:
Other launch facilities are available, in the US and Russia/Kazakhstan. I shouldn’t be too surprised if the Chinese and Indians get into the commercial launch game before to long, if they haven’t already.Jonathan said:
How will we get satellites into space? Will Boris fart them up there from our new outer hebredies space port.Casino_Royale said:
My takeaway from that is that the UK is a significant contributor to Galileo and if it were no longer part of the programme it would cause significant inconvenience to the EU.Dura_Ace said:FPT on Galileo... If you adopt the position, pour la vue de nez, that Williamson is misinformed or ignorant about everything except fireplaces you won't go far wrong.
In reality, if Galileo where to be kicked out of the FI and ASI then they would probably build new Sensor Stations on the coast of Chile or Argentina (who would love to fuck us over on this matter) and Cape Verde.
Finally, while the satellite payloads are manufactured the UK they are not made by the UK government owned and directed Royal British Satellite Factory they are made by Airbus Space and Defense. So while the British government could certainly do a Putin/Mugabe style expropriation of the facility it could not stop Airbus using the intellectual property to make them elsewhere.
In conclusion, Willamson is, as usual, talking absolute shit fuelled by crass stupidity.
This theme of Galileo does reappear quite frequently in a squall of ill informed speculation. Maybe I'll write a header on it...
Meanwhile, we have the technology, resources and expertise to do it ourselves as well.
Of course it would be a massive waste of money, and just getting stuff there would cost a mint...but it's technically feasible.0 -
You simply pay Elon $62 million.Jonathan said:
Going cap in hand to Trump or Putin doesn’t feel like taking back (ground) control.rpjs said:
Other launch facilities are available, in the US and Russia/Kazakhstan. I shouldn’t be too surprised if the Chinese and Indians get into the commercial launch game before to long, if they haven’t already.Jonathan said:
How will we get satellites into space? Will Boris fart them up there from our new outer hebredies space port.Casino_Royale said:
My takeaway from that is that the UK is a significant contributor to Galileo and if it were no longer part of the programme it would cause significant inconvenience to the EU.Dura_Ace said:FPT on Galileo... If you adopt the position, pour la vue de nez, that Williamson is misinformed or ignorant about everything except fireplaces you won't go far wrong.
The Falklands and Ascension Galileo facilities are "Sensor Stations". They download telemetry and relay it to the control centres. They provide NO uplink or control or localised position information. If Galileo lost access to these facilities it means there would be an area over the South Atlantic where data would not be available. As Galileo satellites have an orbital period of 14 hours and 'repeat cycle' of 10 days the black spot would only be a relatively small percentage of each satellite's cycle.
In reality, if Galileo where to be kicked out of the FI and ASI then they would probably build new Sensor Stations on the coast of Chile or Argentina (who would love to fuck us over on this matter) and Cape Verde.
Finally, while the satellite payloads are manufactured the UK they are not made by the UK government owned and directed Royal British Satellite Factory they are made by Airbus Space and Defense. So while the British government could certainly do a Putin/Mugabe style expropriation of the facility it could not stop Airbus using the intellectual property to make them elsewhere.
In conclusion, Willamson is, as usual, talking absolute shit fuelled by crass stupidity.
This theme of Galileo does reappear quite frequently in a squall of ill informed speculation. Maybe I'll write a header on it...
Meanwhile, we have the technology, resources and expertise to do it ourselves as well.
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Wales also voted Leave, it was not just EnglandSouthamObserver said:
The Scots have an escape path from the hard right English nationalist right that will be controlling my country for the foreseeable future. I envy them greatly.hamiltonace said:I am still not sure how you could implement a hard brexit in Scotland without sending the army in. In effect England would need to invade Scotland. I cannot see the SNP complying with orders to put up borders
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Just read this post and no it does not work that way and does question whether you are a member of our party as you would not have made that suggestionarcher101au said:
You are right but if someone had enough letters there is nothing to stop them ‘standing’ against May in the VONC. They can say that they are challenging her at that stage. So in theory Boris (or someone else) can get a group of letters, announce he is standing against May and trigger the vote. It would change the dynamic. I don’t expect it to happen like that but it could.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You really do not know our system. I have explained it to youWulfrun_Phil said:
By waiting. Wait for a few more weeks for May's Chequers offer to completely unravel in the face of EU political intransigence. Then let the letters go in. And then wait a bit longer in the hope that another challenger throws their hat in the ring to challenge May first, before he does so himself.SeanT said:Boris is closer to being PM, right now, than at any point in his career. But how does he seize the crown?
If TM lost a vnoc she would stand down and a full leadership contest would take place with at least 6 -8 candidates, one of course would be Boris. Televised hustings would take place and then a vote is taken by all conservative mps to put two of the candidates to the members. At present Boris has annoyed so many of his fellow colleagues it is doubtful he would get in the final two. However, if he did it is more than likely he would win
The whole process would take 2 - 3 months and I would expect TM to be a caretaker pending the appointment of her successor.
I hope that you accept that as a membership I do know the process0 -
Well at least they get asked about of support, unlike Cable.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
While you can. Suppose we actually end FOM, the EU reciprocates and Scotland joins the EU. You won't be able to move to Scotland without fulfilling whatever the criteria are.Alanbrooke said:
then move to ScotlandSouthamObserver said:
The Scots have an escape path from the hard right English nationalist right that will be controlling my country for the foreseeable future. I envy them greatly.hamiltonace said:I am still not sure how you could implement a hard brexit in Scotland without sending the army in. In effect England would need to invade Scotland. I cannot see the SNP complying with orders to put up borders
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Polling has shown even Scots would support a Canada deal but a big majority of Scots are opposed to WTO terms No Deal Brexit but then polls also show a majority of English voters polled also oppose WTO terms No Deal Brexit even if by a smaller margin than Scots.hamiltonace said:I am still not sure how you could implement a hard brexit in Scotland without sending the army in. In effect England would need to invade Scotland. I cannot see the SNP complying with orders to put up borders
The differences between the majority of Scottish and English voters as a whole on Brexit are not as big as they appear0 -
thats why you should move nowRecidivist said:
While you can. Suppose we actually end FOM, the EU reciprocates and Scotland joins the EU. You won't be able to move to Scotland without fulfilling whatever the criteria are.Alanbrooke said:
then move to ScotlandSouthamObserver said:
The Scots have an escape path from the hard right English nationalist right that will be controlling my country for the foreseeable future. I envy them greatly.hamiltonace said:I am still not sure how you could implement a hard brexit in Scotland without sending the army in. In effect England would need to invade Scotland. I cannot see the SNP complying with orders to put up borders
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Spanish unemployment was 16% in 1999 compared to 17.1% in 2017.rcs1000 said:
https://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=sp&v=74
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Perhaps I am alone in asking why we want a separate satellite system of our own?JosiasJessop said:
There are also plans for a horizontal-launch facility from Cornwall, near Newquay, potentially along with other sites in North Wales and near Glasgow. I think Virgin Galactic are involved with at least one. AIUI the planes can carry only small payloads into orbit, but by flying over the sea they can get a wide range of orbits unavailable from land.rpjs said:Only good for polar orbits though, although I have a feeling GPS/Galileo/GLONASS satellites are in very highly-inclined orbits anyway. In any case, I expect the biggest obstacle to building a British Galileo (Newton?) system will be establishing the ground station network. Perhaps Pitcairn Island will prove useful at last.
So I guess the question is how big GPS satellites are compared to VG's capability. According to Wiki each GPS satellite weighs about 2t at launch and 1t once on orbit (presumably the difference being propellant), whilst Gallileo sats weight about 700kg. It looks as though VG's LauncherOne will not be able to loft anywhere near that weight.
It's all moot, though: the Russians, SpaceX or eventually BO would launch them - and I doubt the Russian or American governments would object. It'd be expensive, though.
Surely it just increases the cost and inconvenience. Why not just use other countries systems?
It all sounds a bit Blue Streak to me.0 -
Yep, Wales did its job and has now been entirely forgotten.HYUFD said:
Wales also voted Leave, it was not just EnglandSouthamObserver said:
The Scots have an escape path from the hard right English nationalist right that will be controlling my country for the foreseeable future. I envy them greatly.hamiltonace said:I am still not sure how you could implement a hard brexit in Scotland without sending the army in. In effect England would need to invade Scotland. I cannot see the SNP complying with orders to put up borders
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Watched a news programme the other week, a TV journalist had been sent to a strawberry and other fruit farm to find out how easy it is to earn £500+ a week. It wasn't. Takes at least a couple of seasons to learn how to pick the best fruit, fast and without damage, at the best time of day before moving to a different tunnel or field to pick a different type or variety. Amazing the amount of fruit that a skilled picker can pack away. As for fish filleting or meat cutting and packing, the managers wouldn't let him near a knife or blade in case he hurt himself or someone else, accidentally.kle4 said:
Unskilled workers is a silly term - people in plenty of such jobs still need training for a variety of tasks. So it doesn't strike me as an inherently dumb statement.rcs1000 said:
All in all, very repetitive, very hard, very skilled and mostly highly paid work that very few Brits are interested in doing. Much nicer being in a call centre even on minimum wage....0 -
In that case there would also likely be tariffs on Scottish goods coming to England and Wales and visa versaRecidivist said:
While you can. Suppose we actually end FOM, the EU reciprocates and Scotland joins the EU. You won't be able to move to Scotland without fulfilling whatever the criteria are.Alanbrooke said:
then move to ScotlandSouthamObserver said:
The Scots have an escape path from the hard right English nationalist right that will be controlling my country for the foreseeable future. I envy them greatly.hamiltonace said:I am still not sure how you could implement a hard brexit in Scotland without sending the army in. In effect England would need to invade Scotland. I cannot see the SNP complying with orders to put up borders
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I am English and England is my home. But moving away should things get really bad is always an option for someone with a bit of cash (or an Irish passport)Alanbrooke said:
then move to ScotlandSouthamObserver said:
The Scots have an escape path from the hard right English nationalist right that will be controlling my country for the foreseeable future. I envy them greatly.hamiltonace said:I am still not sure how you could implement a hard brexit in Scotland without sending the army in. In effect England would need to invade Scotland. I cannot see the SNP complying with orders to put up borders
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Interestingly Wales had a higher Leave vote than the South East of EnglandSouthamObserver said:
Yep, Wales did its job and has now been entirely forgotten.HYUFD said:
Wales also voted Leave, it was not just EnglandSouthamObserver said:
The Scots have an escape path from the hard right English nationalist right that will be controlling my country for the foreseeable future. I envy them greatly.hamiltonace said:I am still not sure how you could implement a hard brexit in Scotland without sending the army in. In effect England would need to invade Scotland. I cannot see the SNP complying with orders to put up borders
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No doubt. Let's hope however bad Brexit is, it doesn't get that bad.HYUFD said:
In that case there would also likely be tariffs on Scottish goods coming to England and Wales and visa versaRecidivist said:
While you can. Suppose we actually end FOM, the EU reciprocates and Scotland joins the EU. You won't be able to move to Scotland without fulfilling whatever the criteria are.Alanbrooke said:
then move to ScotlandSouthamObserver said:
The Scots have an escape path from the hard right English nationalist right that will be controlling my country for the foreseeable future. I envy them greatly.hamiltonace said:I am still not sure how you could implement a hard brexit in Scotland without sending the army in. In effect England would need to invade Scotland. I cannot see the SNP complying with orders to put up borders
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Ah, but we don’t want those furriners getting involved.Foxy said:
Perhaps I am alone in asking why we want a separate satellite system of our own?JosiasJessop said:
There are also plans for a horizontal-launch facility from Cornwall, near Newquay, potentially along with other sites in North Wales and near Glasgow. I think Virgin Galactic are involved with at least one. AIUI the planes can carry only small payloads into orbit, but by flying over the sea they can get a wide range of orbits unavailable from land.rpjs said:Only good for polar orbits though, although I have a feeling GPS/Galileo/GLONASS satellites are in very highly-inclined orbits anyway. In any case, I expect the biggest obstacle to building a British Galileo (Newton?) system will be establishing the ground station network. Perhaps Pitcairn Island will prove useful at last.
So I guess the question is how big GPS satellites are compared to VG's capability. According to Wiki each GPS satellite weighs about 2t at launch and 1t once on orbit (presumably the difference being propellant), whilst Gallileo sats weight about 700kg. It looks as though VG's LauncherOne will not be able to loft anywhere near that weight.
It's all moot, though: the Russians, SpaceX or eventually BO would launch them - and I doubt the Russian or American governments would object. It'd be expensive, though.
Surely it just increases the cost and inconvenience. Why not just use other countries systems?
It all sounds a bit Blue Streak to me.
It’s odd that this Govt. is so opposed to Sinn Fein when the translation is ‘ourselves alone'0 -
O/T but the news that the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance is going to investigate the New York Times’ report alleging massive tax fraud by the Trump family is huge.
Even if SCOTUS strikes down the dual sovereignty doctrine (that allows prosecution for the same
offence at state and federal level) as counter to the constitutional ban on double jeopardy, fiddling federal and state taxes are two separate crimes as in the US federal and state income taxes are legied, returned and collected independently. Even if the IRS prosecutes any allegations of federal tax evasion and Trump pardons himself and his family for them, double jeopardy would not apply to any state charges even without the dual sovereignty doctrine.
Of course it is probable that Trump as Presdent cannot be arrested by state authorities while in office, but it does hold open the bizarre possibility of NYS officers armed with an extradition request waiting patiently at the inaugaration of his successor to take Trump into custody.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/02/trump-helped-parents-hide-money-on-tax-returns-new-york-times0 -
If Scotland chooses to leave the CTA that’s their right - but as that would cut both ways it may be unwise.Recidivist said:
While you can. Suppose we actually end FOM, the EU reciprocates and Scotland joins the EU. You won't be able to move to Scotland without fulfilling whatever the criteria are.Alanbrooke said:
then move to ScotlandSouthamObserver said:
The Scots have an escape path from the hard right English nationalist right that will be controlling my country for the foreseeable future. I envy them greatly.hamiltonace said:I am still not sure how you could implement a hard brexit in Scotland without sending the army in. In effect England would need to invade Scotland. I cannot see the SNP complying with orders to put up borders
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As far as I could see, the catenary is already in place, but I may want to do it again today simply because it was just on the stroke of sunset as I passed the Bellshill area westbound on Monday evening, and a little difficult to see all the different junctions between there and Uddingstonold_labour said:
The Shotts line will be electrified in its entirety from next year. Does that mean you have to do it again?Sunil_Prasannan said:OK, so I invaded Scotland again (second time within the last month!).
Yesterday did the Shotts line from Edinburgh to Glasgow, and today added the Gourock, Largs, and Ardrossan branches and the Troon to Kilmarnock line. Slumming it in Glasgow tonight before switching to Edinburgh tomorrow
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Mr. L, alarming yet hilarious that a feminist rewriting of Mein Kampf got through.0
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What with diehard Remainers moving to the EU if it looks like No Deal Brexit and Tories moving to the Cayman Islands, Florida, Singapore etc if Corbyn becomes PM will Sunil and Justin124 be the only PBers left in the country in a few years?SouthamObserver said:
I am English and England is my home. But moving away should things get really bad is always an option for someone with a bit of cash (or an Irish passport)Alanbrooke said:
then move to ScotlandSouthamObserver said:
The Scots have an escape path from the hard right English nationalist right that will be controlling my country for the foreseeable future. I envy them greatly.hamiltonace said:I am still not sure how you could implement a hard brexit in Scotland without sending the army in. In effect England would need to invade Scotland. I cannot see the SNP complying with orders to put up borders
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Why are you staying in England, increasingly you dont like any of your neighbours, you could have a nice home in Cumbernauld and your own tartan.SouthamObserver said:
I am English and England is my home. But moving away should things get really bad is always an option for someone with a bit of cash (or an Irish passport)Alanbrooke said:
then move to ScotlandSouthamObserver said:
The Scots have an escape path from the hard right English nationalist right that will be controlling my country for the foreseeable future. I envy them greatly.hamiltonace said:I am still not sure how you could implement a hard brexit in Scotland without sending the army in. In effect England would need to invade Scotland. I cannot see the SNP complying with orders to put up borders
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Sky saying it is 11.30DavidL said:The theme of this conference was supposed to be opportunity. A pretty vacuous word at best but what has any minister said that is relevant to it?
Where are the announcements of the extension of homework clubs, pupil premiums and incentivisation of teachers to go to "difficult" schools, what has been said (other than by Boris) about the difficulties with housing, with the unfairness of student grants, with funding social care, etc etc? Where is this opportunity that they speak of?
I confess I have not been glued to the Conference, it is entirely possible that I have missed something but the 2 announcements I have picked up on are (a) waiters get to keep their tips and (b) EU citizens in the future will be treated the same as applicants from the rest of the world. (b) is obviously subject to the terms of deal with the EU so it doesn't exactly leave a program for government does it?
One of May's most serious failings as a leader (definitely top 3) is that she thinks the job of government is to keep buggering on through difficult circumstances without wasting too much time wondering where they are going and why. No doubt she will unveil a vision of a shining city on a hill at 10am today...0 -
I have some sympathy with that. Rockets are sexy, and that's where people (wrongly) concentrate. Yet the UK has a massive space industry - over £10 billion - without a native launch capability.Foxy said:
Perhaps I am alone in asking why we want a separate satellite system of our own?
Surely it just increases the cost and inconvenience. Why not just use other countries systems?
It all sounds a bit Blue Streak to me.
It's like people concentrate on the trucks rather than the goods carried within them. The trucks are necessary, but what they carry is far more important.
Having said that, the cubesat (very small satellites) revolution and improved technology is making the cost of entry into satellite launch much cheaper. As cubesast capabilities increase, it may be worthwhile for companies like Virgin Galactic or Orbex to provide a 'native' UK capability.
Although there are dozens of microsatellite launchers under development, and there will probably only be a handful of winners.0 -
Well that gives her another 90 minutes to come up with something.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sky saying it is 11.30DavidL said:The theme of this conference was supposed to be opportunity. A pretty vacuous word at best but what has any minister said that is relevant to it?
Where are the announcements of the extension of homework clubs, pupil premiums and incentivisation of teachers to go to "difficult" schools, what has been said (other than by Boris) about the difficulties with housing, with the unfairness of student grants, with funding social care, etc etc? Where is this opportunity that they speak of?
I confess I have not been glued to the Conference, it is entirely possible that I have missed something but the 2 announcements I have picked up on are (a) waiters get to keep their tips and (b) EU citizens in the future will be treated the same as applicants from the rest of the world. (b) is obviously subject to the terms of deal with the EU so it doesn't exactly leave a program for government does it?
One of May's most serious failings as a leader (definitely top 3) is that she thinks the job of government is to keep buggering on through difficult circumstances without wasting too much time wondering where they are going and why. No doubt she will unveil a vision of a shining city on a hill at 10am today...0 -
You'd think that turnitin really should have picked that up. Alarming indeed.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. L, alarming yet hilarious that a feminist rewriting of Mein Kampf got through.
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Im hoping she has a tap dance routineDavidL said:
Well that gives her another 90 minutes to come up with something.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sky saying it is 11.30DavidL said:The theme of this conference was supposed to be opportunity. A pretty vacuous word at best but what has any minister said that is relevant to it?
Where are the announcements of the extension of homework clubs, pupil premiums and incentivisation of teachers to go to "difficult" schools, what has been said (other than by Boris) about the difficulties with housing, with the unfairness of student grants, with funding social care, etc etc? Where is this opportunity that they speak of?
I confess I have not been glued to the Conference, it is entirely possible that I have missed something but the 2 announcements I have picked up on are (a) waiters get to keep their tips and (b) EU citizens in the future will be treated the same as applicants from the rest of the world. (b) is obviously subject to the terms of deal with the EU so it doesn't exactly leave a program for government does it?
One of May's most serious failings as a leader (definitely top 3) is that she thinks the job of government is to keep buggering on through difficult circumstances without wasting too much time wondering where they are going and why. No doubt she will unveil a vision of a shining city on a hill at 10am today...0 -
The UK has an inflated view of our military and its requirements. If we have nuclear subs for example, then we can't use another countries navigation systems to bomb the hell out of them, just ain't done, old boy, apart from which they might not approve and turn the systems, off.Foxy said:
Perhaps I am alone in asking why we want a separate satellite system of our own?JosiasJessop said:
There are also plans for a horizontal-launch facility from Cornwall, near Newquay, potentially along with other sites in North Wales and near Glasgow. I think Virgin Galactic are involved with at least one. AIUI the planes can carry only small payloads into orbit, but by flying over the sea they can get a wide range of orbits unavailable from land.rpjs said:Only good for polar orbits though, although I have a feeling GPS/Galileo/GLONASS satellites are in very highly-inclined orbits anyway. In any case, I expect the biggest obstacle to building a British Galileo (Newton?) system will be establishing the ground station network. Perhaps Pitcairn Island will prove useful at last.
So I guess the question is how big GPS satellites are compared to VG's capability. According to Wiki each GPS satellite weighs about 2t at launch and 1t once on orbit (presumably the difference being propellant), whilst Gallileo sats weight about 700kg. It looks as though VG's LauncherOne will not be able to loft anywhere near that weight.
It's all moot, though: the Russians, SpaceX or eventually BO would launch them - and I doubt the Russian or American governments would object. It'd be expensive, though.
Surely it just increases the cost and inconvenience. Why not just use other countries systems?
It all sounds a bit Blue Streak to me.0 -
Michael Gove says No Deal Brexit would be 'suboptimal' and 'did not expect the head of steam' behind the 'People's Vote' campaign
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Try to hang on until 11:32 before declaring it a game changing triumph.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sky saying it is 11.30DavidL said:The theme of this conference was supposed to be opportunity. A pretty vacuous word at best but what has any minister said that is relevant to it?
Where are the announcements of the extension of homework clubs, pupil premiums and incentivisation of teachers to go to "difficult" schools, what has been said (other than by Boris) about the difficulties with housing, with the unfairness of student grants, with funding social care, etc etc? Where is this opportunity that they speak of?
I confess I have not been glued to the Conference, it is entirely possible that I have missed something but the 2 announcements I have picked up on are (a) waiters get to keep their tips and (b) EU citizens in the future will be treated the same as applicants from the rest of the world. (b) is obviously subject to the terms of deal with the EU so it doesn't exactly leave a program for government does it?
One of May's most serious failings as a leader (definitely top 3) is that she thinks the job of government is to keep buggering on through difficult circumstances without wasting too much time wondering where they are going and why. No doubt she will unveil a vision of a shining city on a hill at 10am today...0 -
Even in the event of the hardest possible no-deal car crash Brexit there will still be FOM between the UK and Ireland by virtue of the Ireland Act and reciprocal legislation in Ireland. There’s nothing to stop indy Scotland and rump England-and-Wales (Scottish independence would swiftly be followed by Irish reunification) from setting up something similar. There’s also FOM independent of EU/EEA rules between the Nordic Passport Union states, although practically the fact that all are also EEA and Schengen members supercedes it.Recidivist said:
While you can. Suppose we actually end FOM, the EU reciprocates and Scotland joins the EU. You won't be able to move to Scotland without fulfilling whatever the criteria are.Alanbrooke said:
then move to ScotlandSouthamObserver said:
The Scots have an escape path from the hard right English nationalist right that will be controlling my country for the foreseeable future. I envy them greatly.hamiltonace said:I am still not sure how you could implement a hard brexit in Scotland without sending the army in. In effect England would need to invade Scotland. I cannot see the SNP complying with orders to put up borders
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PM Boris of England and Wales and Alex Salmond the first PM of an independent Scotland (assuming he is cleared of the current allegations) could get interesting!Recidivist said:
No doubt. Let's hope however bad Brexit is, it doesn't get that bad.HYUFD said:
In that case there would also likely be tariffs on Scottish goods coming to England and Wales and visa versaRecidivist said:
While you can. Suppose we actually end FOM, the EU reciprocates and Scotland joins the EU. You won't be able to move to Scotland without fulfilling whatever the criteria are.Alanbrooke said:
then move to ScotlandSouthamObserver said:
The Scots have an escape path from the hard right English nationalist right that will be controlling my country for the foreseeable future. I envy them greatly.hamiltonace said:I am still not sure how you could implement a hard brexit in Scotland without sending the army in. In effect England would need to invade Scotland. I cannot see the SNP complying with orders to put up borders
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Mr. L, is that some sort of automatic detection software to prevent the old copy-and-paste trick?0
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In my experience picking fruit in the rain is good for the soul and the bank balance (as the fruit is heavier) but not in the top 100 of fun things to do.OchEye said:
Watched a news programme the other week, a TV journalist had been sent to a strawberry and other fruit farm to find out how easy it is to earn £500+ a week. It wasn't. Takes at least a couple of seasons to learn how to pick the best fruit, fast and without damage, at the best time of day before moving to a different tunnel or field to pick a different type or variety. Amazing the amount of fruit that a skilled picker can pack away. As for fish filleting or meat cutting and packing, the managers wouldn't let him near a knife or blade in case he hurt himself or someone else, accidentally.kle4 said:
Unskilled workers is a silly term - people in plenty of such jobs still need training for a variety of tasks. So it doesn't strike me as an inherently dumb statement.rcs1000 said:
All in all, very repetitive, very hard, very skilled and mostly highly paid work that very few Brits are interested in doing. Much nicer being in a call centre even on minimum wage....0 -
Brexit, standing up for Britain, Corbyn, Jewish people, security, terrorism and crime.DavidL said:
Well that gives her another 90 minutes to come up with something.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sky saying it is 11.30DavidL said:The theme of this conference was supposed to be opportunity. A pretty vacuous word at best but what has any minister said that is relevant to it?
Where are the announcements of the extension of homework clubs, pupil premiums and incentivisation of teachers to go to "difficult" schools, what has been said (other than by Boris) about the difficulties with housing, with the unfairness of student grants, with funding social care, etc etc? Where is this opportunity that they speak of?
I confess I have not been glued to the Conference, it is entirely possible that I have missed something but the 2 announcements I have picked up on are (a) waiters get to keep their tips and (b) EU citizens in the future will be treated the same as applicants from the rest of the world. (b) is obviously subject to the terms of deal with the EU so it doesn't exactly leave a program for government does it?
One of May's most serious failings as a leader (definitely top 3) is that she thinks the job of government is to keep buggering on through difficult circumstances without wasting too much time wondering where they are going and why. No doubt she will unveil a vision of a shining city on a hill at 10am today...
Maybe the odd recycled Labour idea just to add a little something extra.0 -
Although don’t we have to use American systems to send our subs launch orders anyway?OchEye said:
The UK has an inflated view of our military and its requirements. If we have nuclear subs for example, then we can't use another countries navigation systems to bomb the hell out of them, just ain't done, old boy, apart from which they might not approve and turn the systems, off.Foxy said:
Perhaps I am alone in asking why we want a separate satellite system of our own?JosiasJessop said:
There are also plans for a horizontal-launch facility from Cornwall, near Newquay, potentially along with other sites in North Wales and near Glasgow. I think Virgin Galactic are involved with at least one. AIUI the planes can carry only small payloads into orbit, but by flying over the sea they can get a wide range of orbits unavailable from land.rpjs said:Only good for polar orbits though, although I have a feeling GPS/Galileo/GLONASS satellites are in very highly-inclined orbits anyway. In any case, I expect the biggest obstacle to building a British Galileo (Newton?) system will be establishing the ground station network. Perhaps Pitcairn Island will prove useful at last.
So I guess the question is how big GPS satellites are compared to VG's capability. According to Wiki each GPS satellite weighs about 2t at launch and 1t once on orbit (presumably the difference being propellant), whilst Gallileo sats weight about 700kg. It looks as though VG's LauncherOne will not be able to loft anywhere near that weight.
It's all moot, though: the Russians, SpaceX or eventually BO would launch them - and I doubt the Russian or American governments would object. It'd be expensive, though.
Surely it just increases the cost and inconvenience. Why not just use other countries systems?
It all sounds a bit Blue Streak to me.0 -
As I understand it, you rejoined the Labour Party. Your witch finder morality compass is perfectly tuned to other people.SouthamObserver said:
They pretty much are a bunch of murderous racists, homophobes and cretins, too. The Tories provide succour to anti-Semites and stand shoulder to shoulder with oppressive, murderous regimes, just as the labour party does. It's just that they choose different bigots and xenophobes to hang out with. Our country's reputation and its long-term standing are being destroyed by both the left and right.ydoethur said:
This is why I said we shouldn't pay much attention to polls putting them ahead after Labour's epochal shambles.hamiltonace said:Anyone think the conference is going well for the tories? It seems like a car crash in slow motion.
Mind you, I don't think it's been quite as bad as that so far. Hunt has been maladroit and Boris Boris, but at least nobody has been threatening violence or the overthrow of the government by force.
That said, when the best I can come up with is that they're not as bad as a bunch of murderous racists, homophobes and cretins, things are pretty bad.0 -
I will tell it as I see it. If you read my posts you would see many that critise herDura_Ace said:
Try to hang on until 11:32 before declaring it a game changing triumph.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sky saying it is 11.30DavidL said:The theme of this conference was supposed to be opportunity. A pretty vacuous word at best but what has any minister said that is relevant to it?
Where are the announcements of the extension of homework clubs, pupil premiums and incentivisation of teachers to go to "difficult" schools, what has been said (other than by Boris) about the difficulties with housing, with the unfairness of student grants, with funding social care, etc etc? Where is this opportunity that they speak of?
I confess I have not been glued to the Conference, it is entirely possible that I have missed something but the 2 announcements I have picked up on are (a) waiters get to keep their tips and (b) EU citizens in the future will be treated the same as applicants from the rest of the world. (b) is obviously subject to the terms of deal with the EU so it doesn't exactly leave a program for government does it?
One of May's most serious failings as a leader (definitely top 3) is that she thinks the job of government is to keep buggering on through difficult circumstances without wasting too much time wondering where they are going and why. No doubt she will unveil a vision of a shining city on a hill at 10am today...0 -
And up to 30 minutes after the pubs open to get some Dutch courage inside the delegates before they are required to undergo a Chequers indoctrination. Should be fun watching from afar. . .DavidL said:
Well that gives her another 90 minutes to come up with something.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sky saying it is 11.30DavidL said:The theme of this conference was supposed to be opportunity. A pretty vacuous word at best but what has any minister said that is relevant to it?
Where are the announcements of the extension of homework clubs, pupil premiums and incentivisation of teachers to go to "difficult" schools, what has been said (other than by Boris) about the difficulties with housing, with the unfairness of student grants, with funding social care, etc etc? Where is this opportunity that they speak of?
I confess I have not been glued to the Conference, it is entirely possible that I have missed something but the 2 announcements I have picked up on are (a) waiters get to keep their tips and (b) EU citizens in the future will be treated the same as applicants from the rest of the world. (b) is obviously subject to the terms of deal with the EU so it doesn't exactly leave a program for government does it?
One of May's most serious failings as a leader (definitely top 3) is that she thinks the job of government is to keep buggering on through difficult circumstances without wasting too much time wondering where they are going and why. No doubt she will unveil a vision of a shining city on a hill at 10am today...0 -
Anti cheat software, supposed to review other texts and give a score of much it is copied.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. L, is that some sort of automatic detection software to prevent the old copy-and-paste trick?
Not sure exactly how the system works but I could see why Mein Kampf would not be an obvious text to cheat using...0 -
Makes sense to me. And makes someone shocked that unskilled workers still need training of some kind look like they are sneering, as far as I can see it.OchEye said:
Watched a news programme the other week, a TV journalist had been sent to a strawberry and other fruit farm to find out how easy it is to earn £500+ a week. It wasn't. Takes at least a couple of seasons to learn how to pick the best fruit, fast and without damage, at the best time of day before moving to a different tunnel or field to pick a different type or variety. Amazing the amount of fruit that a skilled picker can pack away. As for fish filleting or meat cutting and packing, the managers wouldn't let him near a knife or blade in case he hurt himself or someone else, accidentally.kle4 said:
Unskilled workers is a silly term - people in plenty of such jobs still need training for a variety of tasks. So it doesn't strike me as an inherently dumb statement.rcs1000 said:
All in all, very repetitive, very hard, very skilled and mostly highly paid work that very few Brits are interested in doing. Much nicer being in a call centre even on minimum wage....0 -
Is it not because the Europeans are saying they are going to exclude us from the encrypted, higher spec, parts of Galileo?Foxy said:
Perhaps I am alone in asking why we want a separate satellite system of our own?JosiasJessop said:
There are also plans for a horizontal-launch facility from Cornwall, near Newquay, potentially along with other sites in North Wales and near Glasgow. I think Virgin Galactic are involved with at least one. AIUI the planes can carry only small payloads into orbit, but by flying over the sea they can get a wide range of orbits unavailable from land.rpjs said:Only good for polar orbits though, although I have a feeling GPS/Galileo/GLONASS satellites are in very highly-inclined orbits anyway. In any case, I expect the biggest obstacle to building a British Galileo (Newton?) system will be establishing the ground station network. Perhaps Pitcairn Island will prove useful at last.
So I guess the question is how big GPS satellites are compared to VG's capability. According to Wiki each GPS satellite weighs about 2t at launch and 1t once on orbit (presumably the difference being propellant), whilst Gallileo sats weight about 700kg. It looks as though VG's LauncherOne will not be able to loft anywhere near that weight.
It's all moot, though: the Russians, SpaceX or eventually BO would launch them - and I doubt the Russian or American governments would object. It'd be expensive, though.
Surely it just increases the cost and inconvenience. Why not just use other countries systems?
It all sounds a bit Blue Streak to me.0 -
Yes and every exam paper and document in University and college is supposed to be put through it.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. L, is that some sort of automatic detection software to prevent the old copy-and-paste trick?
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Brexit is the car crash. The conference is merely a sideshow. We haven't had Theresa May''s speech though.hamiltonace said:Anyone think the conference is going well for the tories? It seems like a car crash in slow motion.
I don't think ground stations are a big issue for geostationary positioning. You need four or five secure locations to control the satellites from. The rest are beacons essentially and you dot them all over the place. Galileo has 30 satellites for full coverage. I guess you can manage with fewer. I believe you can also get a much cheaper piggy back system with three satellites that sharpens the accuracy of other positioning. The UK could develop a system like that to cover the area around the British isles.0 -
Mr. Jezziah/Mr. L, cheers.0
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Crazy young (well, not so young) people and their crazy fashions.
https://twitter.com/bellacaledonia/status/1047374148249554945
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Having heard the rumours some years ago of how fruit pickers added weight to the buckets of fruit, put me off jam for many years, hint, rain was not involved (unless in a golden Trumpian sense). Probable reason for packing straight into cartons these days....DavidL said:
In my experience picking fruit in the rain is good for the soul and the bank balance (as the fruit is heavier) but not in the top 100 of fun things to do.OchEye said:
Watched a news programme the other week, a TV journalist had been sent to a strawberry and other fruit farm to find out how easy it is to earn £500+ a week. It wasn't. Takes at least a couple of seasons to learn how to pick the best fruit, fast and without damage, at the best time of day before moving to a different tunnel or field to pick a different type or variety. Amazing the amount of fruit that a skilled picker can pack away. As for fish filleting or meat cutting and packing, the managers wouldn't let him near a knife or blade in case he hurt himself or someone else, accidentally.kle4 said:
Unskilled workers is a silly term - people in plenty of such jobs still need training for a variety of tasks. So it doesn't strike me as an inherently dumb statement.rcs1000 said:
All in all, very repetitive, very hard, very skilled and mostly highly paid work that very few Brits are interested in doing. Much nicer being in a call centre even on minimum wage....0 -
Double the savings by scrapping Trident too.rpjs said:
Although don’t we have to use American systems to send our subs launch orders anyway?OchEye said:
The UK has an inflated view of our military and its requirements. If we have nuclear subs for example, then we can't use another countries navigation systems to bomb the hell out of them, just ain't done, old boy, apart from which they might not approve and turn the systems, off.Foxy said:
Perhaps I am alone in asking why we want a separate satellite system of our own?JosiasJessop said:
There are also plans for a horizontal-launch facility from Cornwall, near Newquay, potentially along with other sites in North Wales and near Glasgow. I think Virgin Galactic are involved with at least one. AIUI the planes can carry only small payloads into orbit, but by flying over the sea they can get a wide range of orbits unavailable from land.rpjs said:Only good for polar orbits though, although I have a feeling GPS/Galileo/GLONASS satellites are in very highly-inclined orbits anyway. In any case, I expect the biggest obstacle to building a British Galileo (Newton?) system will be establishing the ground station network. Perhaps Pitcairn Island will prove useful at last.
So I guess the question is how big GPS satellites are compared to VG's capability. According to Wiki each GPS satellite weighs about 2t at launch and 1t once on orbit (presumably the difference being propellant), whilst Gallileo sats weight about 700kg. It looks as though VG's LauncherOne will not be able to loft anywhere near that weight.
It's all moot, though: the Russians, SpaceX or eventually BO would launch them - and I doubt the Russian or American governments would object. It'd be expensive, though.
Surely it just increases the cost and inconvenience. Why not just use other countries systems?
It all sounds a bit Blue Streak to me.0 -
No he is right just not being clear.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Just read this post and no it does not work that way and does question whether you are a member of our party as you would not have made that suggestionarcher101au said:
You are right but if someone had enough letters there is nothing to stop them ‘standing’ against May in the VONC. They can say that they are challenging her at that stage. So in theory Boris (or someone else) can get a group of letters, announce he is standing against May and trigger the vote. It would change the dynamic. I don’t expect it to happen like that but it could.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You really do not know our system. I have explained it to youWulfrun_Phil said:
By waiting. Wait for a few more weeks for May's Chequers offer to completely unravel in the face of EU political intransigence. Then let the letters go in. And then wait a bit longer in the hope that another challenger throws their hat in the ring to challenge May first, before he does so himself.SeanT said:Boris is closer to being PM, right now, than at any point in his career. But how does he seize the crown?
If TM lost a vnoc she would stand down and a full leadership contest would take place with at least 6 -8 candidates, one of course would be Boris. Televised hustings would take place and then a vote is taken by all conservative mps to put two of the candidates to the members. At present Boris has annoyed so many of his fellow colleagues it is doubtful he would get in the final two. However, if he did it is more than likely he would win
The whole process would take 2 - 3 months and I would expect TM to be a caretaker pending the appointment of her successor.
I hope that you accept that as a membership I do know the process
Boris could announce on TV (or the Telegraph) before the VonC that he is standing and then urge his supporters to vote against her so he can run.
The problem for Boris is that it would backfire. It would transform the dynamic but not in the way Archer hopes. The last thing Boris actually wants is the VonC to be a May v Boris run off proxy vote as he would lose. Boris clearly doesn't have the confidence of getting 33%+1 needed to guarantee being in the final 2 so why would he be confident of 50%+1 to get rid of May in a binary proxy vote?
What would change the dynamic isn't Boris announcing he is running but a "moderate" Stop Boris candidate doing so while calling on May to go.0 -
And with the UK's historical record in matters European, if we're not with the EU we will be seen as a potential enemy...DavidL said:
Is it not because the Europeans are saying they are going to exclude us from the encrypted, higher spec, parts of Galileo?Foxy said:
Perhaps I am alone in asking why we want a separate satellite system of our own?JosiasJessop said:
There are also plans for a horizontal-launch facility from Cornwall, near Newquay, potentially along with other sites in North Wales and near Glasgow. I think Virgin Galactic are involved with at least one. AIUI the planes can carry only small payloads into orbit, but by flying over the sea they can get a wide range of orbits unavailable from land.rpjs said:Only good for polar orbits though, although I have a feeling GPS/Galileo/GLONASS satellites are in very highly-inclined orbits anyway. In any case, I expect the biggest obstacle to building a British Galileo (Newton?) system will be establishing the ground station network. Perhaps Pitcairn Island will prove useful at last.
So I guess the question is how big GPS satellites are compared to VG's capability. According to Wiki each GPS satellite weighs about 2t at launch and 1t once on orbit (presumably the difference being propellant), whilst Gallileo sats weight about 700kg. It looks as though VG's LauncherOne will not be able to loft anywhere near that weight.
It's all moot, though: the Russians, SpaceX or eventually BO would launch them - and I doubt the Russian or American governments would object. It'd be expensive, though.
Surely it just increases the cost and inconvenience. Why not just use other countries systems?
It all sounds a bit Blue Streak to me.0 -
Actually all of the conferences have had loads of unsold popcorn. These guys cannot even provide decent entertainment.FF43 said:
Brexit is the car crash. The conference is merely a sideshow. We haven't had Theresa May''s speech though.hamiltonace said:Anyone think the conference is going well for the tories? It seems like a car crash in slow motion.
I don't think ground stations are a big issue for geostationary positioning. You need four or five secure locations to control the satellites from. The rest are beacons essentially and you dot them all over the place. Galileo has 30 satellites for full coverage. I guess you can manage with fewer. I believe you can also get a much cheaper piggy back system with three satellites that sharpens the accuracy of other positioning. The UK could develop a system like that to cover the area around the British isles.
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Obviously impostors. Everyone knows Tories are seventy or older.....Theuniondivvie said:Crazy young (well, not so young) people and their crazy fashions.
https://twitter.com/bellacaledonia/status/1047374148249554945
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Luckily for May, the Tory conference has been such an unmitigated disaster so far that her speech can only mark a distinct improvement. As someone posited the other day, her reading out the Maidenhead phone book backwards would be sufficiently better than what has gone before.
Theresa May - it’s good to talk.0 -
God that man is shameless. Translation - “I don’t really care about the outcome of Brexit, all I really care about is trying to gain favour with the Remainers in the party so I can be the next leader. So I will support whatever rubbish May comes back with so Brexit will be out of the way and then I can take over. In the meantime I will tell some lies about improving Brexit later to keep the Leavers onside.”HYUFD said:Michael Gove says No Deal Brexit would be 'suboptimal' and 'did not expect the head of steam' behind the 'People's Vote' campaign
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I was not suggesting it would work, just that it was possible!Philip_Thompson said:
No he is right just not being clear.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Just read this post and no it does not work that way and does question whether you are a member of our party as you would not have made that suggestionarcher101au said:<
You are right but if someone had enough letters there is nothing to stop them ‘standing’ against May in the VONC. They can say that they are challenging her at that stage. So in theory Boris (or someone else) can get a group of letters, announce he is standing against May and trigger the vote. It would change the dynamic. I don’t expect it to happen like that but it could.
Boris could announce on TV (or the Telegraph) before the VonC that he is standing and then urge his supporters to vote against her so he can run.
The problem for Boris is that it would backfire. It would transform the dynamic but not in the way Archer hopes. The last thing Boris actually wants is the VonC to be a May v Boris run off proxy vote as he would lose. Boris clearly doesn't have the confidence of getting 33%+1 needed to guarantee being in the final 2 so why would he be confident of 50%+1 to get rid of May in a binary proxy vote?
What would change the dynamic isn't Boris announcing he is running but a "moderate" Stop Boris candidate doing so while calling on May to go.
BUT I agree it could work if it was not Boris. Let’s say, just hypothetically, that Raab resigns over May’s deal and he and the ERG decide she has to go and he is the guy to do it. Then he could just challenge May and get the letters in. It would create a sense of crisis and show that there is an alternative. MPs might vote for him knowing that they could enter the race later. What if the deal is a stinker and DD tries this trick, positioning himself as the only person who can step in and stop her? It all depends on the circumstance. Having an opponent is more ‘real’ than just a VONC.
My feeling is that it won’t be Boris but he is not without a chance. I also think May will resign as soon as her deal is voted down so I don’t expect it to get that far. If the deal she is going for is anything like that being leaked the wheels will fall of May’s little parade very quickly. The public hated Chequers; they will loathe her for this.0 -
May has stopped reading newspapers in the morning 'to preserve her wellbeing'
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It isn't inevitable. But it is a possible outcome of the route which we are currently on. And whether or not it happens is out of our control. That's what being a small power very close to a much larger power means in practice.rpjs said:
Even in the event of the hardest possible no-deal car crash Brexit there will still be FOM between the UK and Ireland by virtue of the Ireland Act and reciprocal legislation in Ireland. There’s nothing to stop indy Scotland and rump England-and-Wales (Scottish independence would swiftly be followed by Irish reunification) from setting up something similar. There’s also FOM independent of EU/EEA rules between the Nordic Passport Union states, although practically the fact that all are also EEA and Schengen members supercedes it.Recidivist said:
While you can. Suppose we actually end FOM, the EU reciprocates and Scotland joins the EU. You won't be able to move to Scotland without fulfilling whatever the criteria are.Alanbrooke said:
then move to ScotlandSouthamObserver said:
The Scots have an escape path from the hard right English nationalist right that will be controlling my country for the foreseeable future. I envy them greatly.hamiltonace said:I am still not sure how you could implement a hard brexit in Scotland without sending the army in. In effect England would need to invade Scotland. I cannot see the SNP complying with orders to put up borders
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https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1047382766348853248DavidL said:
Well that gives her another 90 minutes to come up with something.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sky saying it is 11.30DavidL said:The theme of this conference was supposed to be opportunity. A pretty vacuous word at best but what has any minister said that is relevant to it?
Where are the announcements of the extension of homework clubs, pupil premiums and incentivisation of teachers to go to "difficult" schools, what has been said (other than by Boris) about the difficulties with housing, with the unfairness of student grants, with funding social care, etc etc? Where is this opportunity that they speak of?
I confess I have not been glued to the Conference, it is entirely possible that I have missed something but the 2 announcements I have picked up on are (a) waiters get to keep their tips and (b) EU citizens in the future will be treated the same as applicants from the rest of the world. (b) is obviously subject to the terms of deal with the EU so it doesn't exactly leave a program for government does it?
One of May's most serious failings as a leader (definitely top 3) is that she thinks the job of government is to keep buggering on through difficult circumstances without wasting too much time wondering where they are going and why. No doubt she will unveil a vision of a shining city on a hill at 10am today...0 -
I laughed out loud when I read this. BrilliantJonathan said:
Are you a medium sized country let down by your leaders? Have you been misold PPE?DecrepitJohnL said:
There is a recent book called Bluffocracy which blames the PPE degree in particular for producing politicians, civil servants and journalists adept at quickly mastering briefs well enough for debate (or last minute essays at Oxford) but with no understanding.OchEye said:
The lack of knowledge about modern technology in Parliament is actually rather sweet. Personally I read the comments on The Register website after the latest Government technology announcements, and have to stop myself laughing at the replies by actual experts. Having a PPE or a degree in Law or the Classics can't make a civil servant or cabinet minister an expert in something which is moving forward so fast.. Or the EU, manufacturing, house building, finance, banking and hedge funds, agriculture and fishing,....Dura_Ace said:FPT on Galileo... If you adopt the position, pour la vue de nez, that Williamson is misinformed or ignorant about everything except fireplaces you won't go far wrong.
The Falklands and Ascension Galileo facilities are "Sensor Stations". They download telemetry and relay it to the control centres. They provide NO uplink or control or localised position information. If Galileo lost access to these facilities it means there would be an area over the South Atlantic where data would not be available. As Galileo satellites have an orbital period of 14 hours and 'repeat cycle' of 10 days the black spot would only be a relatively small percentage of each satellite's cycle.
In reality, if Galileo where to be kicked out of the FI and ASI then they would probably build new Sensor Stations on the coast of Chile or Argentina (who would love to fuck us over on this matter) and Cape Verde.
Finally, while the satellite payloads are manufactured the UK they are not made by the UK government owned and directed Royal British Satellite Factory they are made by Airbus Space and Defense. So while the British government could certainly do a Putin/Mugabe style expropriation of the facility it could not stop Airbus using the intellectual property to make them elsewhere.
In conclusion, Willamson is, as usual, talking absolute shit fuelled by crass stupidity.
This theme of Galileo does reappear quite frequently in a squall of ill informed speculation. Maybe I'll write a header on it...
https://www.bitebackpublishing.com/books/bluffocracy 0 -
Danny Finkelstein 'A second EU referendum may just happen'
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/second-referendum-may-come-sooner-than-we-think-l2cxnpfbv0 -
Is the weight difference not just because stuff weighs (as opposed to masses) less in orbit? I doubt they use a ton of propellant to get there in the first place (the rocket does that) and what propellant they do have, they hoard for positioning manoeuvres.Foxy said:
There are also plans for a horizontal-launch facility from Cornwall, near Newquay, potentially along with other sites in North Wales and near Glasgow. I think Virgin Galactic are involved with at least one. AIUI the planes can carry only small payloads into orbit, but by flying over the sea they can get a wide range of orbits unavailable from land.
So I guess the question is how big GPS satellites are compared to VG's capability. According to Wiki each GPS satellite weighs about 2t at launch and 1t once on orbit (presumably the difference being propellant), whilst Gallileo sats weight about 700kg. It looks as though VG's LauncherOne will not be able to loft anywhere near that weight.
It's all moot, though: the Russians, SpaceX or eventually BO would launch them - and I doubt the Russian or American governments would object. It'd be expensive, though.
Then again, I gave up science after a C in Physics O level.0 -
Gove is certainly now firmly in the pro Deal prop up May camp rather than the Boris camparcher101au said:
God that man is shameless. Translation - “I don’t really care about the outcome of Brexit, all I really care about is trying to gain favour with the Remainers in the party so I can be the next leader. So I will support whatever rubbish May comes back with so Brexit will be out of the way and then I can take over. In the meantime I will tell some lies about improving Brexit later to keep the Leavers onside.”HYUFD said:Michael Gove says No Deal Brexit would be 'suboptimal' and 'did not expect the head of steam' behind the 'People's Vote' campaign
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Yeh. GenuineRoyalBlue said:
I laughed out loud when I read this. BrilliantJonathan said:
Are you a medium sized country let down by your leaders? Have you been misold PPE?DecrepitJohnL said:
There is a recent book called Bluffocracy which blames the PPE degree in particular for producing politicians, civil servants and journalists adept at quickly mastering briefs well enough for debate (or last minute essays at Oxford) but with no understanding.OchEye said:
The lack of knowledge about modern technology in Parliament is actually rather sweet. Personally I read the comments on The Register website after the latest Government technology announcements, and have to stop myself laughing at the replies by actual experts. Having a PPE or a degree in Law or the Classics can't make a civil servant or cabinet minister an expert in something which is moving forward so fast.. Or the EU, manufacturing, house building, finance, banking and hedge funds, agriculture and fishing,....Dura_Ace said:FPT on Galileo... If you adopt the position, pour la vue de nez, that Williamson is misinformed or ignorant about everything except fireplaces you won't go far wrong.
The Falklands and Ascension Galileo facilities are "Sensor Stations". They download telemetry and relay it to the control centres. They provide NO uplink or control or localised position information. If Galileo lost access to these facilities it means there would be an area over the South Atlantic where data would not be available. As Galileo satellites have an orbital period of 14 hours and 'repeat cycle' of 10 days the black spot would only be a relatively small percentage of each satellite's cycle.
In reality, if Galileo where to be kicked out of the FI and ASI then they would probably build new Sensor Stations on the coast of Chile or Argentina (who would love to fuck us over on this matter) and Cape Verde.
Finally, while the satellite payloads are manufactured the UK they are not made by the UK government owned and directed Royal British Satellite Factory they are made by Airbus Space and Defense. So while the British government could certainly do a Putin/Mugabe style expropriation of the facility it could not stop Airbus using the intellectual property to make them elsewhere.
In conclusion, Willamson is, as usual, talking absolute shit fuelled by crass stupidity.
This theme of Galileo does reappear quite frequently in a squall of ill informed speculation. Maybe I'll write a header on it...
https://www.bitebackpublishing.com/books/bluffocracy
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I remember it was not so long ago that you assured us that Gove would back Boris in the next Tory leadership contest.HYUFD said:
Gove is certainly now firmly in the pro Deal prop up May camp rather than the Boris camparcher101au said:
God that man is shameless. Translation - “I don’t really care about the outcome of Brexit, all I really care about is trying to gain favour with the Remainers in the party so I can be the next leader. So I will support whatever rubbish May comes back with so Brexit will be out of the way and then I can take over. In the meantime I will tell some lies about improving Brexit later to keep the Leavers onside.”HYUFD said:Michael Gove says No Deal Brexit would be 'suboptimal' and 'did not expect the head of steam' behind the 'People's Vote' campaign
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45725615
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Gove will back himself above allTheScreamingEagles said:
I remember it was not so long ago that you assured us that Gove would back Boris in the next Tory leadership contest.HYUFD said:
Gove is certainly now firmly in the pro Deal prop up May camp rather than the Boris camparcher101au said:
God that man is shameless. Translation - “I don’t really care about the outcome of Brexit, all I really care about is trying to gain favour with the Remainers in the party so I can be the next leader. So I will support whatever rubbish May comes back with so Brexit will be out of the way and then I can take over. In the meantime I will tell some lies about improving Brexit later to keep the Leavers onside.”HYUFD said:Michael Gove says No Deal Brexit would be 'suboptimal' and 'did not expect the head of steam' behind the 'People's Vote' campaign
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45725615
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This is excellent advice more should follow.HYUFD said:May has stopped reading newspapers in the morning 'to preserve her wellbeing'
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LOL! In her bunker and in denial.HYUFD said:May has stopped reading newspapers in the morning 'to preserve her wellbeing'
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Danny Finkelstein,,, Who wanted to remain?HYUFD said:Danny Finkelstein 'A second EU referendum may just happen'
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/second-referendum-may-come-sooner-than-we-think-l2cxnpfbv 0 -
He had another chat with his wife?TheScreamingEagles said:
I remember it was not so long ago that you assured us that Gove would back Boris in the next Tory leadership contest.HYUFD said:
Gove is certainly now firmly in the pro Deal prop up May camp rather than the Boris camparcher101au said:
God that man is shameless. Translation - “I don’t really care about the outcome of Brexit, all I really care about is trying to gain favour with the Remainers in the party so I can be the next leader. So I will support whatever rubbish May comes back with so Brexit will be out of the way and then I can take over. In the meantime I will tell some lies about improving Brexit later to keep the Leavers onside.”HYUFD said:Michael Gove says No Deal Brexit would be 'suboptimal' and 'did not expect the head of steam' behind the 'People's Vote' campaign
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45725615
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She definitely looks more like a strictly sort of girl to me.Alanbrooke said:
Im hoping she has a tap dance routineDavidL said:
Well that gives her another 90 minutes to come up with something.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sky saying it is 11.30DavidL said:The theme of this conference was supposed to be opportunity. A pretty vacuous word at best but what has any minister said that is relevant to it?
Where are the announcements of the extension of homework clubs, pupil premiums and incentivisation of teachers to go to "difficult" schools, what has been said (other than by Boris) about the difficulties with housing, with the unfairness of student grants, with funding social care, etc etc? Where is this opportunity that they speak of?
I confess I have not been glued to the Conference, it is entirely possible that I have missed something but the 2 announcements I have picked up on are (a) waiters get to keep their tips and (b) EU citizens in the future will be treated the same as applicants from the rest of the world. (b) is obviously subject to the terms of deal with the EU so it doesn't exactly leave a program for government does it?
One of May's most serious failings as a leader (definitely top 3) is that she thinks the job of government is to keep buggering on through difficult circumstances without wasting too much time wondering where they are going and why. No doubt she will unveil a vision of a shining city on a hill at 10am today...0 -
Oops, embarrassing : "DFE caught adding tuition fees to school funding claims"
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Note: pure guesswork (I daresay My Ace will be along to say this is waffle):Ishmael_Z said:
Is the weight difference not just because stuff weighs (as opposed to masses) less in orbit? I doubt they use a ton of propellant to get there in the first place (the rocket does that) and what propellant they do have, they hoard for positioning manoeuvres.Foxy said:
There are also plans for a horizontal-launch facility from Cornwall, near Newquay, potentially along with other sites in North Wales and near Glasgow. I think Virgin Galactic are involved with at least one. AIUI the planes can carry only small payloads into orbit, but by flying over the sea they can get a wide range of orbits unavailable from land.
So I guess the question is how big GPS satellites are compared to VG's capability. According to Wiki each GPS satellite weighs about 2t at launch and 1t once on orbit (presumably the difference being propellant), whilst Gallileo sats weight about 700kg. It looks as though VG's LauncherOne will not be able to loft anywhere near that weight.
It's all moot, though: the Russians, SpaceX or eventually BO would launch them - and I doubt the Russian or American governments would object. It'd be expensive, though.
Then again, I gave up science after a C in Physics O level.
There might be some differences in capability that account for the weight, More likely, it is manoeuvring fuel to get them from the orbit that the rocket delivers them, to their final orbit. US GPG satellites may rely on on-board thrusters to achieve their final orbit, whilst the Galileo ones may be delivered nearer their final orbit by the rocket (e.g. by using a third stage). Or the given weights might be wrong.
It is common for many satellites to get themselves from (say) a Geostationary Transfer Orbit to their final geostationary orbit using their on-board fuel and thrusters. Galileo is MEO rather than GEO (hence lower), but the effect will be the same. Also, if you launch multiple on the same rocket, but want them in slightly different orbits, they'll need to move to their required orbits from the launch one.0 -
He was never backing Johnson.rottenborough said:
He had another chat with his wife?TheScreamingEagles said:
I remember it was not so long ago that you assured us that Gove would back Boris in the next Tory leadership contest.HYUFD said:
Gove is certainly now firmly in the pro Deal prop up May camp rather than the Boris camparcher101au said:
God that man is shameless. Translation - “I don’t really care about the outcome of Brexit, all I really care about is trying to gain favour with the Remainers in the party so I can be the next leader. So I will support whatever rubbish May comes back with so Brexit will be out of the way and then I can take over. In the meantime I will tell some lies about improving Brexit later to keep the Leavers onside.”HYUFD said:Michael Gove says No Deal Brexit would be 'suboptimal' and 'did not expect the head of steam' behind the 'People's Vote' campaign
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45725615
Where did it all go wrong?
I tried to tell HYUFD that.0 -
So did Mrs Thatcher. Her former press secretary, Bernard Ingham, lamented that one reason for John Major's problems was that he insisted on reading the papers for himself, and not the carefully edited extracts prepared by the civil service.HYUFD said:May has stopped reading newspapers in the morning 'to preserve her wellbeing'
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Same as everyone else in the country then. Only the old and the mad still read newspapers, and mostly those in the overlapping part of the Venn diagram.HYUFD said:May has stopped reading newspapers in the morning 'to preserve her wellbeing'
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The Telegraph has more on Kavanaugh's legal past:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/my-battle-brett-kavanaugh-over-truth-ambrose-evans-pritchard/0 -
Unlike you, Gove lives in the UK and would have to deal with the consequences of a No Deal Brexit.archer101au said:
God that man is shameless. Translation - “I don’t really care about the outcome of Brexit, all I really care about is trying to gain favour with the Remainers in the party so I can be the next leader. So I will support whatever rubbish May comes back with so Brexit will be out of the way and then I can take over. In the meantime I will tell some lies about improving Brexit later to keep the Leavers onside.”HYUFD said:Michael Gove says No Deal Brexit would be 'suboptimal' and 'did not expect the head of steam' behind the 'People's Vote' campaign
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45725615
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I think the best May could manage would be an out of time hand jive.DavidL said:
She definitely looks more like a strictly sort of girl to me.Alanbrooke said:
Im hoping she has a tap dance routineDavidL said:
Well that gives her another 90 minutes to come up with something.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sky saying it is 11.30DavidL said:The theme of this conference was supposed to be opportunity. A pretty vacuous word at best but what has any minister said that is relevant to it?
Where are the announcements of the extension of homework clubs, pupil premiums and incentivisation of teachers to go to "difficult" schools, what has been said (other than by Boris) about the difficulties with housing, with the unfairness of student grants, with funding social care, etc etc? Where is this opportunity that they speak of?
I confess I have not been glued to the Conference, it is entirely possible that I have missed something but the 2 announcements I have picked up on are (a) waiters get to keep their tips and (b) EU citizens in the future will be treated the same as applicants from the rest of the world. (b) is obviously subject to the terms of deal with the EU so it doesn't exactly leave a program for government does it?
One of May's most serious failings as a leader (definitely top 3) is that she thinks the job of government is to keep buggering on through difficult circumstances without wasting too much time wondering where they are going and why. No doubt she will unveil a vision of a shining city on a hill at 10am today...
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Excuse me. I am not old and my psychiatrist assures me that madness is a spectrum illness.AlastairMeeks said:
Same as everyone else in the country then. Only the old and the mad still read newspapers, and mostly those in the overlapping part of the Venn diagram.HYUFD said:May has stopped reading newspapers in the morning 'to preserve her wellbeing'
https://mobile.twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1047251687411515392
I try and buy and read the Guardian everyday, plus spend far too long on news websites.0 -
I believe Mr Archer is a UK citizen, which I would have thought gave him the right to comment without this point being made against him every time. He is upfront in his username as to where he comes from. But perhaps you regard his posts as unwelcome immigrants which should be turned away at the UK's cyberboundaries and sent back where they came from?SouthamObserver said:
Unlike you, Gove lives in the UK and would have to deal with the consequences of a No Deal Brexit.archer101au said:
God that man is shameless. Translation - “I don’t really care about the outcome of Brexit, all I really care about is trying to gain favour with the Remainers in the party so I can be the next leader. So I will support whatever rubbish May comes back with so Brexit will be out of the way and then I can take over. In the meantime I will tell some lies about improving Brexit later to keep the Leavers onside.”HYUFD said:Michael Gove says No Deal Brexit would be 'suboptimal' and 'did not expect the head of steam' behind the 'People's Vote' campaign
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OchEye said:
The lack of knowledge about modern technology in Parliament is actually rather sweet. Personally I read the comments on The Register website after the latest Government technology announcements, and have to stop myself laughing at the replies by actual experts. Having a PPE or a degree in Law or the Classics can't make a civil servant or cabinet minister an expert in something which is moving forward so fast.. Or the EU, manufacturing, house building, finance, banking and hedge funds, agriculture and fishing,....Dura_Ace said:FPT on Galileo... If you adopt the position, pour la vue de nez, that Williamson is misinformed or ignorant about everything except fireplaces you won't go far wrong.
The Falklands and Ascension Galileo facilities are "Sensor Stations". They download telemetry and relay it to the control centres. They provide NO uplink or control or localised position information. If Galileo lost access to these facilities it means there would be an area over the South Atlantic where data would not be available. As Galileo satellites have an orbital period of 14 hours and 'repeat cycle' of 10 days the black spot would only be a relatively small percentage of each satellite's cycle.
In reality, if Galileo where to be kicked out of the FI and ASI then they would probably build new Sensor Stations on the coast of Chile or Argentina (who would love to fuck us over on this matter) and Cape Verde.
Finally, while the satellite payloads are manufactured the UK they are not made by the UK government owned and directed Royal British Satellite Factory they are made by Airbus Space and Defense. So while the British government could certainly do a Putin/Mugabe style expropriation of the facility it could not stop Airbus using the intellectual property to make them elsewhere.
In conclusion, Willamson is, as usual, talking absolute shit fuelled by crass stupidity.
This theme of Galileo does reappear quite frequently in a squall of ill informed speculation. Maybe I'll write a header on it...
The problem is mainly with the army of Sir Humphreys, who seem to acquire information about the modern world of technology at a glacial pace. 0 -
Sounds about right to me. I am no expert on orbital mechanics.JosiasJessop said:
Note: pure guesswork (I daresay My Ace will be along to say this is waffle):
I don't think anyone is contesting that the UK could do its own satellite guidance system. The pertinent question is that is it a wise use of the money that would have to be borrowed to do it. We'd probably need one or more international partners to make it viable but it's hard to see who that could be. Israel would have been a good match and would bring a lot to the project but they have recently joined Galileo.0 -
Agree.Ishmael_Z said:
I believe Mr Archer is a UK citizen, which I would have thought gave him the right to comment without this point being made against him every time. He is upfront in his username as to where he comes from. But perhaps you regard his posts as unwelcome immigrants which should be turned away at the UK's cyberboundaries and sent back where they came from?SouthamObserver said:
Unlike you, Gove lives in the UK and would have to deal with the consequences of a No Deal Brexit.archer101au said:
God that man is shameless. Translation - “I don’t really care about the outcome of Brexit, all I really care about is trying to gain favour with the Remainers in the party so I can be the next leader. So I will support whatever rubbish May comes back with so Brexit will be out of the way and then I can take over. In the meantime I will tell some lies about improving Brexit later to keep the Leavers onside.”HYUFD said:Michael Gove says No Deal Brexit would be 'suboptimal' and 'did not expect the head of steam' behind the 'People's Vote' campaign
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45725615
Also we do good threads here about US politics, and a lot of the more astute comments aren't from people who live in the US.0 -
Can you please stop these mind-numbingly tedious references to archer’s location? It is perfectly possible to be British, resident overseas and concerned for one’s country, unless you’re a knuckle-dragging nativist. I know you’re a member of the Labour Party under Corbyn’s leadership, but I wouldn’t call you that.SouthamObserver said:
Unlike you, Gove lives in the UK and would have to deal with the consequences of a No Deal Brexit.archer101au said:
God that man is shameless. Translation - “I don’t really care about the outcome of Brexit, all I really care about is trying to gain favour with the Remainers in the party so I can be the next leader. So I will support whatever rubbish May comes back with so Brexit will be out of the way and then I can take over. In the meantime I will tell some lies about improving Brexit later to keep the Leavers onside.”HYUFD said:Michael Gove says No Deal Brexit would be 'suboptimal' and 'did not expect the head of steam' behind the 'People's Vote' campaign
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45725615
Would you like it if posters here suggested your anti-Brexit stance was motivated solely by the pile of money you recently made, and concern that it might be devalued?0 -
The way the party is at war with itself is deeply depressing.GIN1138 said:
Danny Finkelstein,,, Who wanted to remain?HYUFD said:Danny Finkelstein 'A second EU referendum may just happen'
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/second-referendum-may-come-sooner-than-we-think-l2cxnpfbv
Boris represents the little englander mindset that tells Airbus to FO, together with not caring a jot for the union with some content to lose NI and Scotland. Not one person from this hard right of the party explain how they prevent an Irish hard border or protect our just in time car and aerospace industries.
Then looking at the left of the party we have mps actively campaigning to put the country through another referendum including Soubry, Grieve, Lee, Wollaston, and Greening, going as far as threatening to cross the floor if they do not get their way. Additionally there are a group of female conservatives mps who have said they will resign from the party if Boris gets near power.
Well I say a plague on both of your houses.
Neither of you represent this member who just wants to achieve a sensible divorce from the EU and move onto domestic issues including the NHS, social care, housing and affordable renting, and recognisation of the struggles of the young generation.
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