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June 2018 Monthly Summary Conservatives 7,657 votes (40.22% -0.91% on last time) winning 8 seats (-2 seats on last time) Labour 4,716 votes (24.77% +5.10% on last time) winning 3 seats (+1 seat on last time) Liberal Democrats 2,998 votes (15.75% +7.59% on last time) winning 4 seats (+3 seats on last time) United Kingdom Independence Party 1,291 votes (6.78% -5.69% on last time) winning 0 seats (-2 seats on last time) Local Independents 1,089 votes (5.72% +0.98% on last time) winning 1 seat (+1 seat on last time) Independents 836 votes (4.39% -3.97% on last time) winning 1 seat (-1 seat on last time) Green Party 410 votes (2.15% -3.17% on last time) winning 0 seats (unchanged on last time) Others 42 votes (0.22% +0.07% on last time) winning 0 seats (unchanged on last time) Conservative lead of 2,941 votes (15.45%) on a swing of 3% from Con to Lab
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Are we at mid-term yet?0
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Cheers for this, Mr. Hayfield.0
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If there's an election next year, then yes.MarqueeMark said:Are we at mid-term yet?
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Water supply problems in Shropshire, Staffordshire, Derbys... Plenty there for Corbyn to make hay with as the sun shines.
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tlg86 said:
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I am more concerned about the crumpet shortage.MarqueeMark said:Water supply problems in Shropshire, Staffordshire, Derbys... Plenty there for Corbyn to make hay with as the sun shines.
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Thanks Harry!0
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Mr. Urquhart, is that due to a shortage of carbon dioxide or has Wollaston spotted people like them and slapped a tax on them?0
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Apparently its the CO2 shortage.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Urquhart, is that due to a shortage of carbon dioxide or has Wollaston spotted people like them and slapped a tax on them?
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It's not impossible with the way the EU is going on Northern Ireland that the DUP may pull the plug. Personally (Famous last words) I've ruled out, bet against and continue to follow the tip of no election or change of Tory leader this year - but next year I think May is much more vulnerable.tlg86 said:0 -
Preventing lager drinking seems to me to be a Good Deed.0
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I can't say I have noticed any shortages in the supermarkets / pubs (yet). That one day of really bad snow seemed to cause far more issues with my local Tescos taking 2 weeks to get back to full shelves.MattW said:Preventing lager drinking seems to me to be a Good Deed.
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No chance.Pulpstar said:
It's not impossible with the way the EU is going on Northern Ireland that the DUP may pull the plug. Personally (Famous last words) I've ruled out, bet against and continue to follow the tip of no election or change of Tory leader this year - but next year I think May is much more vulnerable.tlg86 said:
2022 GE or 21 if the Brexit dividend kicks in.0 -
Just seen this tweeted
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It's the new Y2K excuse.....FrancisUrquhart said:
Apparently its the CO2 shortage.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Urquhart, is that due to a shortage of carbon dioxide or has Wollaston spotted people like them and slapped a tax on them?
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"Severn Trent set up bottled water collection points in Telford and Much Wenlock in Shropshire, parts of Staffordshire and Ashbourne, Parwich and Longcliffe in Derbyshire on Tuesday and Wednesday after supplies were affected."MarqueeMark said:Water supply problems in Shropshire, Staffordshire, Derbys... Plenty there for Corbyn to make hay with as the sun shines.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44647117
Interesting placenames there. Ashbourne, Parwich and especially Longcliffe are just a few miles away from a large water-supply reservoir, Carsington. Shame for them that it drains east to the Derwent ...
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Meanwhile in other local news, for those of you on tenterhooks about the Hadleigh referendum:
https://twitter.com/AlastairMeeks/status/10127051433960529930 -
What was the turnout >AlastairMeeks said:Meanwhile in other local news, for those of you on tenterhooks about the Hadleigh referendum:
https://twitter.com/AlastairMeeks/status/10127051433960529930 -
11%. Which, candidly, in a five hour window which included a world cup match involving England, I don't think is particularly bad!Pulpstar said:
What was the turnout >AlastairMeeks said:Meanwhile in other local news, for those of you on tenterhooks about the Hadleigh referendum:
https://twitter.com/AlastairMeeks/status/10127051433960529930 -
Re C02 shortage
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jun/20/co2-shortage-could-hit-uk-beer-and-chicken-supplies-during-world-cup
"Camra, the organisation for devotees of cask ales, seized on the opportunity to urge drinkers to abandon artificially carbonated brews.
“Beer drinkers concerned about the supply of beer this summer can rest easy,” said Tom Stainer, Camra’s chief communications officer. “There are plenty of fantastic real ales, ciders and perries that will be completely unaffected by the impending CO2 shortage."0 -
I see questions about the binding or non binding nature of the referendum have already been put too on TwitterAlastairMeeks said:
11%. Which, candidly, in a five hour window which included a world cup match involving England, I don't think is particularly bad!Pulpstar said:
What was the turnout >AlastairMeeks said:Meanwhile in other local news, for those of you on tenterhooks about the Hadleigh referendum:
https://twitter.com/AlastairMeeks/status/1012705143396052993 0 -
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Non-binding. If I were guessing, I suspect the current councillors will soldier on and decline to stand next May when they're next up.Pulpstar said:
I see questions about the binding or non binding nature of the referendum have already been put too on TwitterAlastairMeeks said:
11%. Which, candidly, in a five hour window which included a world cup match involving England, I don't think is particularly bad!Pulpstar said:
What was the turnout >AlastairMeeks said:Meanwhile in other local news, for those of you on tenterhooks about the Hadleigh referendum:
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Mr. Meeks, cheers for the update 0
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So after years of the gov claiming that we were producing too much CO2 and legislating against it, apparently it turns out we don't have enough.
Government shambles!
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Next PB meet-up in Hadleigh anyone?0
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If anybody is thinking of enjoying the lovely outdoors this weekend, may I suggest Malvern may not be where you want to be heading...or perhaps it is...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5901069/Sex-Festival-way-Signs-reveal-location-Europes-biggest-secret-sex-festival.html0 -
If only we'd built a few carbon capture plants, we'd be sorted.MarkHopkins said:
So after years of the gov claiming that we were producing too much CO2 and legislating against it, apparently it turns out we don't have enough.
Government shambles!0 -
Huge marquees have already been erectedFrancisUrquhart said:If anybody is thinking of enjoying the lovely outdoors this weekend, may I suggest Malvern may not be where you want to be heading...or perhaps it is...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5901069/Sex-Festival-way-Signs-reveal-location-Europes-biggest-secret-sex-festival.html0 -
More seriously, given that the source of the CO2 for use in the food and drinks industry is a by-product of the production of fertilisers, I wonder whether there is any potential for CO2 to be captured during cement production?MarkHopkins said:
So after years of the gov claiming that we were producing too much CO2 and legislating against it, apparently it turns out we don't have enough.
Government shambles!
The release of CO2 from calcium carbonate in cement production is responsible for about 6% of global CO2 emissions.0 -
I also hear that the crumpet shortage isn't affecting that part of the country....Pulpstar said:
Huge marquees have already been erectedFrancisUrquhart said:If anybody is thinking of enjoying the lovely outdoors this weekend, may I suggest Malvern may not be where you want to be heading...or perhaps it is...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5901069/Sex-Festival-way-Signs-reveal-location-Europes-biggest-secret-sex-festival.html0 -
Malvern, surely?tpfkar said:Next PB meet-up in Hadleigh anyone?
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Mr. Me, sounds like a good idea.0
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May I respectfully disagree.MattW said:Preventing lager drinking seems to me to be a Good Deed.
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It does sound a big one, but likely to come to a sticky end.FrancisUrquhart said:If anybody is thinking of enjoying the lovely outdoors this weekend, may I suggest Malvern may not be where you want to be heading...or perhaps it is...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5901069/Sex-Festival-way-Signs-reveal-location-Europes-biggest-secret-sex-festival.html0 -
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Trapping cow farts is the answer.They produce as much methane,even worse.I do like a nice steak.OblitusSumMe said:
More seriously, given that the source of the CO2 for use in the food and drinks industry is a by-product of the production of fertilisers, I wonder whether there is any potential for CO2 to be captured during cement production?MarkHopkins said:
So after years of the gov claiming that we were producing too much CO2 and legislating against it, apparently it turns out we don't have enough.
Government shambles!
The release of CO2 from calcium carbonate in cement production is responsible for about 6% of global CO2 emissions.0 -
I think (And it pains me to say this) an Osborne candidate might lose by less than any 'bad boy of Brexit'. Londoners go in for that sort of thing even less than they like the Tories.Scott_P said:0 -
Why do these fools do this?Scott_P said:0 -
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I believe that much of the work on ruminants aims to improve their digestion so that the farts/belching does not occur.volcanopete said:
Trapping cow farts is the answer.They produce as much methane,even worse.I do like a nice steak.OblitusSumMe said:
More seriously, given that the source of the CO2 for use in the food and drinks industry is a by-product of the production of fertilisers, I wonder whether there is any potential for CO2 to be captured during cement production?MarkHopkins said:
So after years of the gov claiming that we were producing too much CO2 and legislating against it, apparently it turns out we don't have enough.
Government shambles!
The release of CO2 from calcium carbonate in cement production is responsible for about 6% of global CO2 emissions.0 -
You might be interested in the following:OblitusSumMe said:
More seriously, given that the source of the CO2 for use in the food and drinks industry is a by-product of the production of fertilisers, I wonder whether there is any potential for CO2 to be captured during cement production?MarkHopkins said:
So after years of the gov claiming that we were producing too much CO2 and legislating against it, apparently it turns out we don't have enough.
Government shambles!
The release of CO2 from calcium carbonate in cement production is responsible for about 6% of global CO2 emissions.
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david_herdson said:
In the spirit of democracy:
https://twitter.com/DavidHerdson/status/10127115878770401290 -
Yes there is. See:OblitusSumMe said:
More seriously, given that the source of the CO2 for use in the food and drinks industry is a by-product of the production of fertilisers, I wonder whether there is any potential for CO2 to be captured during cement production?MarkHopkins said:
So after years of the gov claiming that we were producing too much CO2 and legislating against it, apparently it turns out we don't have enough.
Government shambles!
The release of CO2 from calcium carbonate in cement production is responsible for about 6% of global CO2 emissions.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/416674/Cement_Report.pdf
Also:
https://ecra-online.org/research/ccs/
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david_herdson said:david_herdson said:
In the spirit of democracy:
https://twitter.com/DavidHerdson/status/1012711587877040129
Vote for (1).
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Yes, it is interesting, higher than I thought.JosiasJessop said:
You might be interested in the following:OblitusSumMe said:
More seriously, given that the source of the CO2 for use in the food and drinks industry is a by-product of the production of fertilisers, I wonder whether there is any potential for CO2 to be captured during cement production?MarkHopkins said:
So after years of the gov claiming that we were producing too much CO2 and legislating against it, apparently it turns out we don't have enough.
Government shambles!
The release of CO2 from calcium carbonate in cement production is responsible for about 6% of global CO2 emissions.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ngeo2840
If you could capture the CO2 during cement production then you would have a carbon sink from the carbonation of cement roughly large enough to offset carbon emissions from air travel.0 -
Are you sure about that 6% figure? It seems very high going by the divisions in this report?OblitusSumMe said:
Yes, it is interesting, higher than I thought.JosiasJessop said:
You might be interested in the following:OblitusSumMe said:
More seriously, given that the source of the CO2 for use in the food and drinks industry is a by-product of the production of fertilisers, I wonder whether there is any potential for CO2 to be captured during cement production?MarkHopkins said:
So after years of the gov claiming that we were producing too much CO2 and legislating against it, apparently it turns out we don't have enough.
Government shambles!
The release of CO2 from calcium carbonate in cement production is responsible for about 6% of global CO2 emissions.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ngeo2840
If you could capture the CO2 during cement production then you would have a carbon sink from the carbonation of cement roughly large enough to offset carbon emissions from air travel.
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/global-greenhouse-gas-emissions-data#Sector0 -
Phew, you've not thinking of writing about what I've been writing about.david_herdson said:david_herdson said:In the spirit of democracy:
https://twitter.com/DavidHerdson/status/10127115878770401290 -
Whichever way it goes, I'm campaigning for a second vote once we've seen the details of the article.david_herdson said:david_herdson said:In the spirit of democracy:
https://twitter.com/DavidHerdson/status/10127115878770401290 -
Do you have something on the side of a bus?david_herdson said:In the spirit of democracy:
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Good thing you didn't have to park itAlastairMeeks said:
Phew, you've not thinking of writing about what I've been writing about.david_herdson said:david_herdson said:In the spirit of democracy:
https://twitter.com/DavidHerdson/status/10127115878770401290 -
Brexit will be next week, in all probability, given the Chequers pyjama party due then.AlastairMeeks said:
Phew, you've not thinking of writing about what I've been writing about.david_herdson said:david_herdson said:In the spirit of democracy:
https://twitter.com/DavidHerdson/status/10127115878770401290 -
I'm pretty confident. Note that the report you link to talks of "greenhouse gases" in one section, which will include CH4, NO2, etc, in addition to CO2.david_herdson said:
Are you sure about that 6% figure? It seems very high going by the divisions in this report?OblitusSumMe said:
Yes, it is interesting, higher than I thought.JosiasJessop said:
You might be interested in the following:OblitusSumMe said:
More seriously, given that the source of the CO2 for use in the food and drinks industry is a by-product of the production of fertilisers, I wonder whether there is any potential for CO2 to be captured during cement production?MarkHopkins said:
So after years of the gov claiming that we were producing too much CO2 and legislating against it, apparently it turns out we don't have enough.
Government shambles!
The release of CO2 from calcium carbonate in cement production is responsible for about 6% of global CO2 emissions.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ngeo2840
If you could capture the CO2 during cement production then you would have a carbon sink from the carbonation of cement roughly large enough to offset carbon emissions from air travel.
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/global-greenhouse-gas-emissions-data#Sector0 -
And I haven't even got there yet.....Pulpstar said:
Huge marquees have already been erectedFrancisUrquhart said:If anybody is thinking of enjoying the lovely outdoors this weekend, may I suggest Malvern may not be where you want to be heading...or perhaps it is...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5901069/Sex-Festival-way-Signs-reveal-location-Europes-biggest-secret-sex-festival.html0 -
Like most pbers, I rarely reverse on here.JonnyJimmy said:
Good thing you didn't have to park itAlastairMeeks said:
Phew, you've not thinking of writing about what I've been writing about.david_herdson said:david_herdson said:In the spirit of democracy:
https://twitter.com/DavidHerdson/status/10127115878770401290 -
This article makes several points that I would make: Why is Trump still so popular?.0
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Yet another reason why we shouldn't leave.The_Apocalypse said:0 -
Ms. Apocalypse, Trump may be risking many other nations siding against the US when it comes to trade.
The US is in a strong position, but it's not invincible. If Canada, Korea, Japan, China, the EU, and the UK all end up taking anti-US measures in retaliation to new Trumpian tariff moves, it may end up doing more harm than good for the US.0 -
Mr. Borough, sometimes fools are right. And sometimes the wise err. Just assuming an idiot is bound to be wrong or a sage is bound to be right is daft.-1
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Here it comes, the long predicted 'new' english nationalist, alt-right party.
UKIP has just had three high profile Alt-Right cyber types join it, including Paul Joseph Watson and Milo. Other new members have joined apparently.
"Ukip sources say the new members are younger, angrier and more extreme in their defence of ‘free speech’ and libertarianism than the party has ever seen."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/meet-new-face-ukip-free-12819236?!1110 -
Wasn't that announced last week?rottenborough said:Here it comes, the long predicted 'new' english nationalist, alt-right party.
UKIP has just had three high profile Alt-Right cyber types join it, including Paul Joseph Watson and Milo. Other new members have joined apparently.
"Ukip sources say the new members are younger, angrier and more extreme in their defence of ‘free speech’ and libertarianism than the party has ever seen."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/meet-new-face-ukip-free-12819236?!1110 -
Arm Forces Day in Llandudno will be spectacular with the red arrows,(12 noon) battle of Britain memorial flight and a tyhoon display.MarqueeMark said:
And I haven't even got there yet.....Pulpstar said:
Huge marquees have already been erectedFrancisUrquhart said:If anybody is thinking of enjoying the lovely outdoors this weekend, may I suggest Malvern may not be where you want to be heading...or perhaps it is...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5901069/Sex-Festival-way-Signs-reveal-location-Europes-biggest-secret-sex-festival.html
250, 000 expected with clear skys, hot sun, beaches, the Great and Little Ormes and the Prime Minister, Theresa May, with her over promoted Defence Secretary0 -
Donald Trump wants all agreements the US enters into to be bilateral. He hates the idea that the US can be bound by others.rottenborough said:
Yet another reason why we shouldn't leave.The_Apocalypse said:
We, as a mid-sized power, want the WTO to be strong.0 -
In an uncertain world being in control of our own destiny seems a better plan than shackled into a sclerotic leviathan.rottenborough said:
Yet another reason why we shouldn't leave.The_Apocalypse said:0 -
Not at all surprising. Trump has proven far more adept at withdrawing from agreements than he has at striking deals.The_Apocalypse said:0 -
And Jezza will be otherwise engaged...inspecting manhole covers or something equally important.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Arm Forces Day in Llandudno will be spectacular with the red arrows,(12 noon) battle of Britain memorial flight and a tyhoon display.MarqueeMark said:
And I haven't even got there yet.....Pulpstar said:
Huge marquees have already been erectedFrancisUrquhart said:If anybody is thinking of enjoying the lovely outdoors this weekend, may I suggest Malvern may not be where you want to be heading...or perhaps it is...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5901069/Sex-Festival-way-Signs-reveal-location-Europes-biggest-secret-sex-festival.html
250, 000 expected with clear skys, hot sun, beaches, the Great and Little Ormes and the Prime Minister, Theresa May, with her over promoted Defence Secretary0 -
Or, standing shoulder to shoulder with our european neighbours to try and hold Western liberalism together as the US implodes.Philip_Thompson said:
In an uncertain world being in control of our own destiny seems a better plan than shackled into a sclerotic leviathan.rottenborough said:
Yet another reason why we shouldn't leave.The_Apocalypse said:0 -
I for one am looking forward to reports of the first meeting in UKIP between gay donkey rape man and the assertively gay defender of predatory paedophiles.0
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None of us should be surprised that Donald Trump is popular. He has stood up for groups of people who felt left behind by the political process, and who have struggled economically. He speaks their language, and his actions - regarding American exceptionalism, migrants and trade - are popular with many.OblitusSumMe said:This article makes several points that I would make: Why is Trump still so popular?.
However, deliberately or accidentally, the measures he's proposing won't solve the problems. He has proposed no measures that penalise those - like in, errrr, the property industry - deliberately choose to employ cheap illegal migrants. He's done nothing to prevent migrants from coming the most common way - "Yes office, I'm just here for the weekend, it's my cousin's wedding".
And putting the pedal down with fiscal stimulus, will only exacerbate the trade imbalances.
Finally, the idea that Putin and Kim are better allies than Trudeau is simply wrong.
Trump risks driving everyone except Russia, the US and North Korea closer together.0 -
Guardian says it was announced on Tuesday. So yes I am a little late to catch up with this.FrancisUrquhart said:
Wasn't that announced last week?rottenborough said:Here it comes, the long predicted 'new' english nationalist, alt-right party.
UKIP has just had three high profile Alt-Right cyber types join it, including Paul Joseph Watson and Milo. Other new members have joined apparently.
"Ukip sources say the new members are younger, angrier and more extreme in their defence of ‘free speech’ and libertarianism than the party has ever seen."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/meet-new-face-ukip-free-12819236?!1110 -
It is certainly quite a "journey" for a couple of those who have repeatedly claimed to be "classical liberals". The Sargon of Akkad guy has a quite eye popping 500k subs on his YouTube channels and 250 million views on his main channel alone.rottenborough said:
Guardian says it was announced on Tuesday. So yes I am a little late to catch up with this.FrancisUrquhart said:
Wasn't that announced last week?rottenborough said:Here it comes, the long predicted 'new' english nationalist, alt-right party.
UKIP has just had three high profile Alt-Right cyber types join it, including Paul Joseph Watson and Milo. Other new members have joined apparently.
"Ukip sources say the new members are younger, angrier and more extreme in their defence of ‘free speech’ and libertarianism than the party has ever seen."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/meet-new-face-ukip-free-12819236?!1110 -
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Yep. I’ve been side eyeing many of these so called classical liberals as well.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is certainly quite a "journey" for a couple of those who have repeatedly claimed to be "classical liberals".rottenborough said:
Guardian says it was announced on Tuesday. So yes I am a little late to catch up with this.FrancisUrquhart said:
Wasn't that announced last week?rottenborough said:Here it comes, the long predicted 'new' english nationalist, alt-right party.
UKIP has just had three high profile Alt-Right cyber types join it, including Paul Joseph Watson and Milo. Other new members have joined apparently.
"Ukip sources say the new members are younger, angrier and more extreme in their defence of ‘free speech’ and libertarianism than the party has ever seen."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/meet-new-face-ukip-free-12819236?!1110 -
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If we’re on our own we won’t be in control of anythingPhilip_Thompson said:
In an uncertain world being in control of our own destiny seems a better plan than shackled into a sclerotic leviathan.rottenborough said:
Yet another reason why we shouldn't leave.The_Apocalypse said:0 -
@rottenborough Have you heard about this: https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1012682098442895360?s=21
SMH.0 -
Sadly gay donkey rape man has left UKIP and is now the leader of the Democrats and Veterans Party.AlastairMeeks said:I for one am looking forward to reports of the first meeting in UKIP between gay donkey rape man and the assertively gay defender of predatory paedophiles.
I’m sure Milo and Roger Helmer will get on fine though.0 -
The late stages of UKIP sound like a Velvet Underground gig. Few people were still members, but those that were all set up new parties.TheScreamingEagles said:
Sadly gay donkey rape man has left UKIP and is now the leader of the Democrats and Veterans Party.AlastairMeeks said:I for one am looking forward to reports of the first meeting in UKIP between gay donkey rape man and the assertively gay defender of predatory paedophiles.
I’m sure Milo and Roger Helmer will get on fine though.0 -
They are pure Alt-Right imho. Interestingly, Hawley's book "Making Sense of the Alt-Right" maintains that it is almost entirely an online based thing in the US. They hardly ever have proper conferences, or join things, or do traditional political stuff off-line.The_Apocalypse said:
Yep. I’ve been side eyeing many of these so called classical liberals as well.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is certainly quite a "journey" for a couple of those who have repeatedly claimed to be "classical liberals".rottenborough said:
Guardian says it was announced on Tuesday. So yes I am a little late to catch up with this.FrancisUrquhart said:
Wasn't that announced last week?rottenborough said:Here it comes, the long predicted 'new' english nationalist, alt-right party.
UKIP has just had three high profile Alt-Right cyber types join it, including Paul Joseph Watson and Milo. Other new members have joined apparently.
"Ukip sources say the new members are younger, angrier and more extreme in their defence of ‘free speech’ and libertarianism than the party has ever seen."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/meet-new-face-ukip-free-12819236?!111
So this is an interesting development in UK.
I assume it has been co-ordinated between these individuals.0 -
Disappointed you didn’t segue in a reference to All Tomorrow's Parties.AlastairMeeks said:
The late stages of UKIP sound like a Velvet Underground gig. Few people were still members, but those that were all set up new parties.TheScreamingEagles said:
Sadly gay donkey rape man has left UKIP and is now the leader of the Democrats and Veterans Party.AlastairMeeks said:I for one am looking forward to reports of the first meeting in UKIP between gay donkey rape man and the assertively gay defender of predatory paedophiles.
I’m sure Milo and Roger Helmer will get on fine though.0 -
I was half expecting you to say, "Three. As said, they voted two to one"AlastairMeeks said:
11%. Which, candidly, in a five hour window which included a world cup match involving England, I don't think is particularly bad!Pulpstar said:
What was the turnout >AlastairMeeks said:Meanwhile in other local news, for those of you on tenterhooks about the Hadleigh referendum:
https://twitter.com/AlastairMeeks/status/10127051433960529930 -
Whoever their candidate is the Tories need someone seen as able to tackle the rising crime rate in the capital, particularly of knife crimeScott_P said:0 -
Yep, YouTube is especially key for them. Thanks for the heads up on the ‘Making Sense of the Alt-Right’ book, I’m definitely going to read that.rottenborough said:
They are pure Alt-Right imho. Interestingly, Hawley's book "Making Sense of the Alt-Right" maintains that it is almost entirely an online based thing in the US. They hardly ever have proper conferences, or join things, or do traditional political stuff off-line.The_Apocalypse said:
Yep. I’ve been side eyeing many of these so called classical liberals as well.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is certainly quite a "journey" for a couple of those who have repeatedly claimed to be "classical liberals".rottenborough said:
Guardian says it was announced on Tuesday. So yes I am a little late to catch up with this.FrancisUrquhart said:
Wasn't that announced last week?rottenborough said:Here it comes, the long predicted 'new' english nationalist, alt-right party.
UKIP has just had three high profile Alt-Right cyber types join it, including Paul Joseph Watson and Milo. Other new members have joined apparently.
"Ukip sources say the new members are younger, angrier and more extreme in their defence of ‘free speech’ and libertarianism than the party has ever seen."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/meet-new-face-ukip-free-12819236?!111
So this is an interesting development in UK.
I assume it has been co-ordinated between these individuals.0 -
Sort of. I am currently reading Timothy Snyder's new book, "The Road to Unfreedom". Has some stuff about Deutsch bank, loans to Trump, money laundering and Russia.The_Apocalypse said:@rottenborough Have you heard about this: https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1012682098442895360?s=21
SMH.
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How long before Pepe the frog is the new UKIP logo?The_Apocalypse said:
Yep, YouTube is especially key for them. Thanks for the heads up on the ‘Making Sense of the Alt-Right’ book, I’m definitely going to read that.rottenborough said:
They are pure Alt-Right imho. Interestingly, Hawley's book "Making Sense of the Alt-Right" maintains that it is almost entirely an online based thing in the US. They hardly ever have proper conferences, or join things, or do traditional political stuff off-line.The_Apocalypse said:
Yep. I’ve been side eyeing many of these so called classical liberals as well.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is certainly quite a "journey" for a couple of those who have repeatedly claimed to be "classical liberals".rottenborough said:
Guardian says it was announced on Tuesday. So yes I am a little late to catch up with this.FrancisUrquhart said:
Wasn't that announced last week?rottenborough said:Here it comes, the long predicted 'new' english nationalist, alt-right party.
UKIP has just had three high profile Alt-Right cyber types join it, including Paul Joseph Watson and Milo. Other new members have joined apparently.
"Ukip sources say the new members are younger, angrier and more extreme in their defence of ‘free speech’ and libertarianism than the party has ever seen."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/meet-new-face-ukip-free-12819236?!111
So this is an interesting development in UK.
I assume it has been co-ordinated between these individuals.0 -
So John Rees-Evans has set up Democrats & Veterans. Anne-Marie Waters has set up For Britain. Henry Bolton is supposedly setting up OneNation. Tim Aker is both in UKIP and Thurrock Independents simultaneously. Who else among the UKIP alumni has joined or founded (or preferably led) a new party recently?0
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https://twitter.com/CER_Grant/status/1012732694537568256
JRM will then have to bring May's government down?0 -
Of course we will, we will be in control of our own actions.not_on_fire said:
If we’re on our own we won’t be in control of anythingPhilip_Thompson said:
In an uncertain world being in control of our own destiny seems a better plan than shackled into a sclerotic leviathan.rottenborough said:
Yet another reason why we shouldn't leave.The_Apocalypse said:
We won't be in control of everyone else but neither could nor should we be.
In stormy weather I'd rather put my trust in our own captain to be able to navigate the waters than a cult on one boat who can't adapt but reckon they can control the elements.0 -
LOL, wouldn’t even be shocked to see that happen! I’m not remotely surprised the route UKIP are going down though. I saw this coming as soon as Batten joined that ‘free Tommy Robinson’ narrative.rottenborough said:
How long before Pepe the frog is the new UKIP logo?The_Apocalypse said:
Yep, YouTube is especially key for them. Thanks for the heads up on the ‘Making Sense of the Alt-Right’ book, I’m definitely going to read that.rottenborough said:
They are pure Alt-Right imho. Interestingly, Hawley's book "Making Sense of the Alt-Right" maintains that it is almost entirely an online based thing in the US. They hardly ever have proper conferences, or join things, or do traditional political stuff off-line.The_Apocalypse said:
Yep. I’ve been side eyeing many of these so called classical liberals as well.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is certainly quite a "journey" for a couple of those who have repeatedly claimed to be "classical liberals".rottenborough said:
Guardian says it was announced on Tuesday. So yes I am a little late to catch up with this.FrancisUrquhart said:
Wasn't that announced last week?rottenborough said:Here it comes, the long predicted 'new' english nationalist, alt-right party.
UKIP has just had three high profile Alt-Right cyber types join it, including Paul Joseph Watson and Milo. Other new members have joined apparently.
"Ukip sources say the new members are younger, angrier and more extreme in their defence of ‘free speech’ and libertarianism than the party has ever seen."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/meet-new-face-ukip-free-12819236?!111
So this is an interesting development in UK.
I assume it has been co-ordinated between these individuals.0 -
Have you met Cap’n May and First Officer Johnson? I wouldn’t put them in charge of a rubber dinghy.Philip_Thompson said:
Of course we will, we will be in control of our own actions.not_on_fire said:
If we’re on our own we won’t be in control of anythingPhilip_Thompson said:
In an uncertain world being in control of our own destiny seems a better plan than shackled into a sclerotic leviathan.rottenborough said:
Yet another reason why we shouldn't leave.The_Apocalypse said:
We won't be in control of everyone else but neither could nor should we be.
In stormy weather I'd rather put my trust in our own captain to be able to navigate the waters than a cult on one boat who can't adapt but reckon they can control the elements.0 -
Is it conceivable that Boris could run again? Could the men in grey suits make a deal to ease him out of the FCO? There is just the impression that Boris and Number 10 have come to some sort of non-aggression pact.HYUFD said:
Whoever their candidate is the Tories need someone seen as able to tackle the rising crime rate in the capital, particularly of knife crimeScott_P said:0 -
I vote for the one Aaron Banks doesn't fund...david_herdson said:david_herdson said:In the spirit of democracy:
https://twitter.com/DavidHerdson/status/10127115878770401290 -
Mr. Eagles, I'm disappointed you missed the opportunity to make a Sugababes reference.0
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Paul Jospeh Watson has repeatedly over and over distanced himself from the alt right. Do keep up.rottenborough said:Here it comes, the long predicted 'new' english nationalist, alt-right party.
UKIP has just had three high profile Alt-Right cyber types join it, including Paul Joseph Watson and Milo. Other new members have joined apparently.
"Ukip sources say the new members are younger, angrier and more extreme in their defence of ‘free speech’ and libertarianism than the party has ever seen."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/meet-new-face-ukip-free-12819236?!111
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"Anthony Kennedy and the Death of True American Conservatism
Andrew Sullivan
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Then look at white millennial men. They’ve gone from 48 percent to 37 percent Democratic support. More striking in their case is that they haven’t just moved away from the Democrats, but have now become Republicans. Their support for the GOP in the last two years has gone from 36 percent to 46. Which means that for white men between the ages of 18 and 34, the GOP now has a ten-point lead. It has achieved that swing in the last two years.
We don’t know why this has happened..."
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/06/anthony-kennedy-and-the-death-of-true-american-conservatism.html0 -
On what grounds?notme said:
Paul Jospeh Watson has repeatedly over and over distanced himself from the alt right. Do keep up.rottenborough said:Here it comes, the long predicted 'new' english nationalist, alt-right party.
UKIP has just had three high profile Alt-Right cyber types join it, including Paul Joseph Watson and Milo. Other new members have joined apparently.
"Ukip sources say the new members are younger, angrier and more extreme in their defence of ‘free speech’ and libertarianism than the party has ever seen."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/meet-new-face-ukip-free-12819236?!1110 -
#identitypoliticsforwhitepeopleThe_Apocalypse said:
LOL, wouldn’t even be shocked to see that happen! I’m not remotely surprised the route UKIP are going down though. I saw this coming as soon as Batten joined that ‘free Tommy Robinson’ narrative.rottenborough said:
How long before Pepe the frog is the new UKIP logo?The_Apocalypse said:
Yep, YouTube is especially key for them. Thanks for the heads up on the ‘Making Sense of the Alt-Right’ book, I’m definitely going to read that.rottenborough said:
They are pure Alt-Right imho. Interestingly, Hawley's book "Making Sense of the Alt-Right" maintains that it is almost entirely an online based thing in the US. They hardly ever have proper conferences, or join things, or do traditional political stuff off-line.The_Apocalypse said:
Yep. I’ve been side eyeing many of these so called classical liberals as well.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is certainly quite a "journey" for a couple of those who have repeatedly claimed to be "classical liberals".rottenborough said:
Guardian says it was announced on Tuesday. So yes I am a little late to catch up with this.FrancisUrquhart said:
Wasn't that announced last week?rottenborough said:Here it comes, the long predicted 'new' english nationalist, alt-right party.
UKIP has just had three high profile Alt-Right cyber types join it, including Paul Joseph Watson and Milo. Other new members have joined apparently.
"Ukip sources say the new members are younger, angrier and more extreme in their defence of ‘free speech’ and libertarianism than the party has ever seen."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/meet-new-face-ukip-free-12819236?!111
So this is an interesting development in UK.
I assume it has been co-ordinated between these individuals.
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No Adrian Powlesland Asteroid Mining Party?AlastairMeeks said:So John Rees-Evans has set up Democrats & Veterans. Anne-Marie Waters has set up For Britain. Henry Bolton is supposedly setting up OneNation. Tim Aker is both in UKIP and Thurrock Independents simultaneously. Who else among the UKIP alumni has joined or founded (or preferably led) a new party recently?
I confess to a slight disappointment.0 -
On the grounds that he doesn't like the label, mainly.rottenborough said:
On what grounds?notme said:
Paul Jospeh Watson has repeatedly over and over distanced himself from the alt right. Do keep up.rottenborough said:Here it comes, the long predicted 'new' english nationalist, alt-right party.
UKIP has just had three high profile Alt-Right cyber types join it, including Paul Joseph Watson and Milo. Other new members have joined apparently.
"Ukip sources say the new members are younger, angrier and more extreme in their defence of ‘free speech’ and libertarianism than the party has ever seen."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/meet-new-face-ukip-free-12819236?!1110
