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I’m a dutiful son and I visit my parents regularly. They live in Hadleigh, a quiet market town in south Suffolk. Hadleigh has never quite made it onto the tourist trail. This is a little odd because Kersey, a couple of miles away, is a staple of Christmas cards and meerkat adverts and Lavenham, a few miles further away, is besieged with visitors.
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First for Hadleigh!0
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Interesting article. On localism, I think Boris is going to find himself in all sorts of local difficulty in 2022, especially if the building work has commenced. His majority definitely looks shaky.0
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In terms of other local difficulties, Guido's story about Emma Dent Coad's electoral expenses could well create a few ripples.
Though given how the Police failed to take action against Sarah Olney, perhaps another blind eye will be turned.
If Dent Coad is found to have broken electoral law, her chances of still being allowed to stand as a candidate must surely be in date at any by-election.
Would be a very interesting campaign.0 -
Given that this particular poll is one of no confidence in the town council I think it's worth mentioning the proposal for recall elections for MPs. If you wanted to encourage a bottom-up renaissance of British politics I think that would be a good place to start.0
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Oh dear. Hungary has gone off message:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5884845/Hungary-warns-EU-faces-economic-devastation-without-post-Brexit-trade-deal.html0 -
On topic, fascinating story and insight, Alastair; thanks.
I agree. I can’t see any harm in these.0 -
Interesting. I wonder if that has anything to do with calls from some in the EU to discipline Hungary for the recent law taxing advocacy for migrants?Casino_Royale said:Oh dear. Hungary has gone off message:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5884845/Hungary-warns-EU-faces-economic-devastation-without-post-Brexit-trade-deal.html0 -
I think that's a story that both remainers AND leavers can enjoy. Let's all enjoy a brief moment of solidarity before hostilities recommence.Casino_Royale said:Oh dear. Hungary has gone off message:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5884845/Hungary-warns-EU-faces-economic-devastation-without-post-Brexit-trade-deal.html
It's the Christmas Truce all over again. Anyone for footy?0 -
Meeks has been doing his duty for Brexit.Casino_Royale said:Oh dear. Hungary has gone off message:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5884845/Hungary-warns-EU-faces-economic-devastation-without-post-Brexit-trade-deal.html
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Interesting story. Many thanks.
I think, however, trying to draw broader lessons from it is fraught with difficulties. Our politics is unstable enough without having pressure groups pushing for additional elections when frustrated with the direction of progress. Sometimes elected governments have to govern. And make decisions. And just get on with it.
I do think that the power to recall individual MPs guilty of misconduct should be put in place though.0 -
The referendum will be on the day of England vs Belgium. I expect the turnout will be abysmal but the 'overturners' will win.0
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I'm a member of little local facebook groups. There seems to be one or two people convinced the local (tory) councillors are all utter corrupt and doing dodgy deals with funding for cricket clubs etc..
all without every much evidence at all, of course.0 -
That seems to be their role in life. When was Hungary last 'on message'?Casino_Royale said:Oh dear. Hungary has gone off message:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5884845/Hungary-warns-EU-faces-economic-devastation-without-post-Brexit-trade-deal.html0 -
Good afternoon, everyone.
Interesting article, and a nice photograph too.
I do dislike this heat.0 -
I’m not saying my office is hot but two Hobbits just walked into my office and threw a ring into it.Morris_Dancer said:Good afternoon, everyone.
Interesting article, and a nice photograph too.
I do dislike this heat.0 -
Nice to know I’m not the only PBer that doesn’t discuss the extent of his betting with his mother.0
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Powers granted under "part 3, schedule 12, paragraph 18, sub-paragraphs 4 and 5 of the Local Government Act of 1972. In Wales, the reference is part 5, paragraph 34, sub-paragraphs 4 and 5..."
http://www.iniref.org/local-referendum.html
Became more of an issue under the Localism Act, which grated greater powers to parish councils (cf 'Big Society'....)0 -
Mr. Eagles, fitting, given your name.
On betting and parents: I did just mention it in passing but don't bang on about it. A year or two ago, my father asked me to put a bet on the Grand National (something or other Arthur was the horse's name). I put a little on for myself, on the basis I'd be pissed off if he won via my account and I didn't actually make anything.
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The horse won.0 -
I'm left wondering whether the Senior Meeks are the ones fomenting revolution?
We had a useful parish poll demonstrating support for a controversial housing development - yes really. People took it quite seriously.
I've always supported full recall for MPs and councillors - if you have 10% of your residents who want you out at any time you have really stuffed up. Would Boris be feeling the heat this week?
Looks like a beautiful if sleepy town - anyone famous from Hadleigh?0 -
My mother would need sedating if she ever found out how spread betting works and that I dabble a lot in it.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, fitting, given your name.
On betting and parents: I did just mention it in passing but don't bang on about it. A year or two ago, my father asked me to put a bet on the Grand National (something or other Arthur was the horse's name). I put a little on for myself, on the basis I'd be pissed off if he won via my account and I didn't actually make anything.
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The horse won.0 -
I'm pretty sure however there would be the usual suspects on both sides which would be permanent campaigning to unseat all MPs.tpfkar said:
I've always supported full recall for MPs and councillors - if you have 10% of your residents who want you out at any time you have really stuffed up. Would Boris be feeling the heat this week?
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The other long-standing series of referenda in the UK was each district in Wales holding a referendum every decade on whether to remain "dry" on Sundays. As I understand it, once "wet" won, then that result became permanent and no more referendums would be held in that district, and I think all the districts are "wet" now.
Certainly though, when I was a student at St David's University College, Lampeter (as it was then) in the late 80s, Ceredigion was still "dry" on Sundays and so the Cwmann Arms just across the Teifi in Carmarthenshire did a brisk trade every weekend.0 -
Mr. Eagles, even if you can afford it and (presumably) are ahead overall?
Pretty disastrous first half of 2018 for me. I've misjudged some F1 things but I've never known such a streak of misfortune either. Even at the last race, the bloke I backed was taken out (recovery drive but still) at the first corner, and the chaps I backed for qualifying were because of potential rain, which happened before and after qualifying but not during.
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I’m not saying my office is hot but two Hobbits just walked into my office and threw a ring into it.Morris_Dancer said:Good afternoon, everyone.
Interesting article, and a nice photograph too.
I do dislike this heat.
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No idea why he failed to become PM and instead became a Thunderbird...I am sure Stoke man is right on board with that tweet.rottenborough said:twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/1011602552125870083
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Mr. Borough, surely 'crises'?
Although that isn't quite as bad as the time he got the capital of Brazil wrong. When he was Foreign Secretary.0 -
https://twitter.com/DMiliband/status/1011338597495136256rottenborough said:twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/1011602552125870083
Says man who now permanently resides in America.0 -
I wonder how that Ivory tower is going for him...rottenborough said:0 -
Mr. Urquhart, an unkind fellow might describe David Miliband as a six figure twit. Or words to that effect.
Still, if he wants to move back here, stand as an MP, and promote open borders, that's his right. Daft sod.0 -
It's all one big interconnected crisis with its root cause being the absence of a humble banana-wielding British politician from the highest rung of political power.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Borough, surely 'crises'?
Although that isn't quite as bad as the time he got the capital of Brazil wrong. When he was Foreign Secretary.0 -
Labour’s Brexit policy is even more of a nonsense than the cabinet’s.
https://twitter.com/philaldrick/status/1011561871642628096?s=210 -
A British man has been found guilty of planning a terror attack in Westminster and making bombs for the Taliban.
Khalid Ali, 28, was arrested in April 2017 in Parliament Street, where he was caught carrying three knives.
Ali had recently returned from Afghanistan, where he made and detonated bombs, the Old Bailey heard.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-446135870 -
Parish/Town councils now have to have referendums to approve (or not) their neighbourhood plans.
Where there is no approved area plan (as in Aylesbury District Council) the neighbourhood plan is the sole statutory plan.0 -
Cakism on the rise?williamglenn said:Labour’s Brexit policy is even more of a nonsense than the cabinet’s.
https://twitter.com/philaldrick/status/1011561871642628096?s=210 -
Mr. Glenn, it's an achievement.
The Government's varying shades of rubbish, yet the Opposition is markedly worse.
Mr. Urquhart, a British man has been found guilty of planning a coup.
Boris Johnson, 54, returned recently from Afghanistan, where he was hiding under a table to avoid following a three line whip. Mr. Johnson, who left his dignity behind in Kabul, said he couldn't possibly resign as he wanted to be Prime Minister.
Theresa May was too busy laughing to comment.0 -
rottenborough said:
Miliband is in Aspen?0 -
I think if the UK stayed in "the" customs union they are correct. All members of the customs union would have their views represented in trade talks, we'd still be only one of 28 which leaves us in the same weak position we have within the EU.williamglenn said:Labour’s Brexit policy is even more of a nonsense than the cabinet’s.
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I thought the government could overrule these neighbourhood plans? I think that’s what happened in my (old) neck of the woods.David_Evershed said:Parish/Town councils now have to have referendums to approve (or not) their neighbourhood plans.
Where there is no approved area plan (as in Aylesbury District Council) the neighbourhood plan is the sole statutory plan.0 -
What a twunt.FrancisUrquhart said:
https://twitter.com/DMiliband/status/1011338597495136256rottenborough said:twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/1011602552125870083
Says man who now permanently resides in America.0 -
Corbyn's version of Brexit makes Boris look principled.williamglenn said:Labour’s Brexit policy is even more of a nonsense than the cabinet’s.
https://twitter.com/philaldrick/status/1011561871642628096?s=210 -
I'm re-reading Musashi and recently came across the passage cited here:
https://twitter.com/anonymityiskey4/status/10097647730623692820 -
What is an illegal tooth?williamglenn said:Labour’s Brexit policy is even more of a nonsense than the cabinet’s.
https://twitter.com/philaldrick/status/1011561871642628096?s=210 -
Is this Miliband we are talking about?Morris_Dancer said:I'm re-reading Musashi and recently came across the passage cited here:
https://twitter.com/anonymityiskey4/status/10097647730623692820 -
I am sure it is really Tracy Island but they like to keep the exact location of that under wraps.David_Evershed said:0 -
Mr. Evershed, well, not in the book, which is set in 17th century Japan
But it did seem apt. For him and the Jezbollah.0 -
The Secretary of State (with Planing Inspector advice) can overrule a specific planning application decision which gets 'called in' but not overrule a neighbourhood plan.RobD said:
I thought the government could overrule these neighbourhood plans? I think that’s what happened in my (old) neck of the woods.David_Evershed said:Parish/Town councils now have to have referendums to approve (or not) their neighbourhood plans.
Where there is no approved area plan (as in Aylesbury District Council) the neighbourhood plan is the sole statutory plan.0 -
Thank you, Alastair, very interesting article. I've even cast my vote in such things without making the connection.
Good afternoon, everyone.0 -
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I just want some Sanity. I just want good environment for trade with as small barriers, if not none as possible, without being part of a political buerecratic un-democratic state...
Is that too much to ask?0 -
We had all that as full members of the EUSlackbladder said:I just want some Sanity. I just want good environment for trade with as small barriers, if not none as possible, without being part of a political buerecratic un-democratic state...
Is that too much to ask?0 -
Good afternoon, Miss JGP.0
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Ivory teeth, were the second in line to the throne have his way.DavidL said:
What is an illegal tooth?williamglenn said:Labour’s Brexit policy is even more of a nonsense than the cabinet’s.
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Not the latter part.Scott_P said:
We had all that as full members of the EUSlackbladder said:I just want some Sanity. I just want good environment for trade with as small barriers, if not none as possible, without being part of a political buerecratic un-democratic state...
Is that too much to ask?0 -
No, I do not want to part of what will be an EU-super state in the futureScott_P said:
We had all that as full members of the EUSlackbladder said:I just want some Sanity. I just want good environment for trade with as small barriers, if not none as possible, without being part of a political buerecratic un-democratic state...
Is that too much to ask?0 -
You'd rather be a satellite of it?Slackbladder said:
No, I do not want to part of what will be an EU-super state in the futureScott_P said:
We had all that as full members of the EUSlackbladder said:I just want some Sanity. I just want good environment for trade with as small barriers, if not none as possible, without being part of a political buerecratic un-democratic state...
Is that too much to ask?0 -
Not even Trump?Morris_Dancer said:I'm re-reading Musashi and recently came across the passage cited here:
https://twitter.com/anonymityiskey4/status/1009764773062369282
Or Farage?0 -
Shona Robison has been on a shoogly peg for some time and has been getting unending grief about the mess in Tayside Health Board in her local paper. She is a very close friend of Nicola so this will not have been easy for her.Scott_P said:
My daughter, who works in Tayside NHS, tells me that a series of wards have been closed, expensive medication is no longer available and a series of budgetary cuts have been made in Ninewells (the largest hospital in the Board) as they seek to claw back the deficit that the previous Board was not able to address. It has been made clear in an e-mail to staff that there is now a lot of direct control by the Scottish Government.0 -
While true, the article rather suggests that government is likely unaware of most of them.RobD said:
I thought the government could overrule these neighbourhood plans? I think that’s what happened in my (old) neck of the woods.David_Evershed said:Parish/Town councils now have to have referendums to approve (or not) their neighbourhood plans.
Where there is no approved area plan (as in Aylesbury District Council) the neighbourhood plan is the sole statutory plan.0 -
Scott_P said:
Another comment in that thread was that there was literally no space for customs facilities at the UK terminus of the channel tunnel.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1011610133267406849
Yes, no space:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.0983661,1.1281326,4580m/data=!3m1!1e30 -
This is what I do not get. Sky reported that the police/MoD had pieces from 43 IED's with his fingerprints on. Is not building, handling bombs that set off against British troops some kind of criminal offence?FrancisUrquhart said:A British man has been found guilty of planning a terror attack in Westminster and making bombs for the Taliban.
Khalid Ali, 28, was arrested in April 2017 in Parliament Street, where he was caught carrying three knives.
Ali had recently returned from Afghanistan, where he made and detonated bombs, the Old Bailey heard.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-446135870 -
My cousin works at NinewellsDavidL said:My daughter, who works in Tayside NHS, tells me that a series of wards have been closed, expensive medication is no longer available and a series of budgetary cuts have been made in Ninewells (the largest hospital in the Board) as they seek to claw back the deficit that the previous Board was not able to address. It has been made clear in an e-mail to staff that there is now a lot of direct control by the Scottish Government.
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She'll have got the same email then. The description was really for the benefit of our southern readers.Scott_P said:
My cousin works at NinewellsDavidL said:My daughter, who works in Tayside NHS, tells me that a series of wards have been closed, expensive medication is no longer available and a series of budgetary cuts have been made in Ninewells (the largest hospital in the Board) as they seek to claw back the deficit that the previous Board was not able to address. It has been made clear in an e-mail to staff that there is now a lot of direct control by the Scottish Government.
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Did the EU shill Islam ask him about space on the French side ?RobD said:Scott_P said:
Another comment in that thread was that there was literally no space for customs facilities at the UK terminus of the channel tunnel.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1011610133267406849
Yes, no space:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.0983661,1.1281326,4580m/data=!3m1!1e3
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You think we should ask them to help us prepare to threaten to walk away?TGOHF said:
Did the EU shill Islam ask him about space on the French side ?RobD said:Scott_P said:
Another comment in that thread was that there was literally no space for customs facilities at the UK terminus of the channel tunnel.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1011610133267406849
Yes, no space:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.0983661,1.1281326,4580m/data=!3m1!1e30 -
Yes I was wondering this. Lorries coming here pass both France and UK borders before boarding the train.TGOHF said:
Did the EU shill Islam ask him about space on the French side ?RobD said:Scott_P said:
Another comment in that thread was that there was literally no space for customs facilities at the UK terminus of the channel tunnel.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1011610133267406849
Yes, no space:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.0983661,1.1281326,4580m/data=!3m1!1e3
Whereas Lorries going out what do we need to check "Got your papers, Mate?" "Yup, sure do" "On you go then."
Where are all these delays, on the French side as far as I can see.0 -
That would suggest that he has been extraordinarily prolific (and somewhat careless). I trust he will not be released.ralphmalph said:
This is what I do not get. Sky reported that the police/MoD had pieces from 43 IED's with his fingerprints on. Is not building, handling bombs that set off against British troops some kind of criminal offence?FrancisUrquhart said:A British man has been found guilty of planning a terror attack in Westminster and making bombs for the Taliban.
Khalid Ali, 28, was arrested in April 2017 in Parliament Street, where he was caught carrying three knives.
Ali had recently returned from Afghanistan, where he made and detonated bombs, the Old Bailey heard.
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All of the checks are before boarding, in both directionsralphmalph said:Yes I was wondering this. Lorries coming here pass both France and UK borders before boarding the train.
Whereas Lorries going out what do we need to check "Got your papers, Mate?" "Yup, sure do" "On you go then."
Where are all these delays, on the French side as far as I can see.0 -
I don't want to sound bitter but it took me 70 minutes yesterday to get my car off the ferry at Newcastle and through border security/customs. In Amsterdam it took less than 30. Both ways the customs was completely desultory. No one looked in my car or the boot. But somehow the UK end took more than twice as long. Exactly the same happened the last time I made the trip. Why is our Border Security Service so incompetent?0
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Vote Brexit, trash the Green Belt.RobD said:Scott_P said:
Another comment in that thread was that there was literally no space for customs facilities at the UK terminus of the channel tunnel.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1011610133267406849
Yes, no space:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.0983661,1.1281326,4580m/data=!3m1!1e30 -
6 years of Theresa rubbed off?DavidL said:I don't want to sound bitter but it took me 70 minutes yesterday to get my car off the ferry at Newcastle and through border security/customs. In Amsterdam it took less than 30. Both ways the customs was completely desultory. No one looked in my car or the boot. But somehow the UK end took more than twice as long. Exactly the same happened the last time I made the trip. Why is our Border Security Service so incompetent?
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A tiny fraction of it, maybe.TOPPING said:
Vote Brexit, trash the Green Belt.RobD said:Scott_P said:
Another comment in that thread was that there was literally no space for customs facilities at the UK terminus of the channel tunnel.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1011610133267406849
Yes, no space:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.0983661,1.1281326,4580m/data=!3m1!1e30 -
As if it isn't being trashed with us in the EU.TOPPING said:
Vote Brexit, trash the Green Belt.RobD said:Scott_P said:
Another comment in that thread was that there was literally no space for customs facilities at the UK terminus of the channel tunnel.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1011610133267406849
Yes, no space:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.0983661,1.1281326,4580m/data=!3m1!1e30 -
Amazing.RobD said:
A tiny fraction of it, maybe.TOPPING said:
Vote Brexit, trash the Green Belt.RobD said:Scott_P said:
Another comment in that thread was that there was literally no space for customs facilities at the UK terminus of the channel tunnel.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1011610133267406849
Yes, no space:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.0983661,1.1281326,4580m/data=!3m1!1e3
Let me guess your aerial shot is nowhere near where you live.0 -
I have said that I would comment on Brexit when I returned from my cruise and subsequent visit to our family in the North of Scotland and therefore these are my views on the matter
Over the last few weeks there has been a co-ordinated attack on Brexit from the EU, politicians in the UK, pressure groups and now the manufactures including Airbus, BMW (though they have now withdrawn their threat to leave the UK) and today by the car manufacturers. Indeed this full on anti Brexit crescendo seems to be timed for the EU meeting this week which ironically, due to the chronic problems in the EU over migration and other matters, seems now to be at the bottom of the EU’s agenda, which seems very unwise.
These scare stories do not help the dialogue but as far as I see it, and having run a business before I retired, there is a considerable amount of sense in the expressions of concern and we are now at decision time.
Theresa May needs to step up to the plate in her Chequers meeting and act in the Country’s interest, and not the hard line Brexiteers, and demand a business friendly Brexit with serious consideration of ‘a’ customs union and allowing the ECJ some role, especially over the transition period that needs to be extended by at least a year and maybe more. As far as the Brexiteers are concerned let them resign as I believe she will be strengthened both in Parliament and the Country by taking the difficult decisions that are incumbent on her as Prime Minister.
Boris has lost all respect and integrity and should have voted against Heathrow runway and resigned. That he did not do so must signal the end of his ambition to succeed TM.
As for Williamson he is immature and promoted way above his pay grade and needs putting back in his box
Yesterday’s decision to overwhelmingly back Heathrow (which I strongly support) was the wrong time to reject the Swansea lagoon scheme, especially as it and a lagoon for North Wales had united the Welsh conservatives, was in the 2015 manifesto, and was supported by most of the Country. I have spoken to a Welsh Conservative MP and he is bitterly disappointed. It seems anything for England and the DUP is fine but Wales can be forgotten as it is not important. Coming on top of the cancellation of the electrification to Swansea it is just crass politics and will cost conservatives votes. These decisions on Wales have put into question my membership but ultimately I have nowhere else to go, however it is frustrating in the extreme
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"All this time commentators have been telling us that referendums weren’t a longstanding part of British politics and it turns out they were wrong"
I did know, having looked into the history of referendums in Britain, that parish polls of this nature do indeed predate the larger national, regional and local polls that have abounded in more recent years and, as Alastair says, that there've been many of them. I didn't know, however, how easy they were to call or that they could be called on such wide subject matter. Cheers for the primer.
That said, even the bigger referendums have quite a long history now. The first, inglorious, one was held in Northern Ireland in 1973 (on whether the province should remain with the UK or join the RoI), and was boycotted by nationalists. That's 45 years ago now - before most people in the country were born. That was followed, more famously, by the EEC referendum in 1975 and, infamously, the devolution referendums of 1979 with their super-majority requirements - a history with its associated grievance conveniently forgotten by Remain refuseniks in search of an excuse for illegitimising the 2016 poll. Since 1997, there've been a further nine referendums at regional level or above, plus many more at district level, on local government reform.
That said, I'm not convinced of the merits of widespread popular democracy. For all that they're a part of our constitution now, I don't think them a good way of determining any but the biggest decisions, given how advocates for any position have the luxury of not being the ones charged with delivering the result and, as such, do not have the inhibiting factor that politicans do at general elections, of the foreknowledge of the costs of over-promising.0 -
Mitch McConnell just posted a picture of him and Gorsuch after the news of the SCOTUS upholding the travel ban broke: https://twitter.com/team_mitch/status/1011615705568071681?s=21
Yeah, the US isn’t just going to go back to normal after Trump’s presidency. I don’t think Dems will ever move past what happened with Garland.0 -
US Supreme Court upholds Trump's travel ban
The US Supreme Court has ruled in favour of the Trump administration's travel ban targeting people from several Muslim-majority countries.
Lower courts had deemed the ban unconstitutional, but the US top court has reversed this decision in a 5-4 ruling announced on Tuesday.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44619976
I am sure he will be very gracious in victory.0 -
I don't know, but I've seen the same at airports. I went through sets of automatic passport readers in Copenhagen and Amsterdam without issue, but in Edinburgh half the machines weren't working and there was an enormous queue.DavidL said:I don't want to sound bitter but it took me 70 minutes yesterday to get my car off the ferry at Newcastle and through border security/customs. In Amsterdam it took less than 30. Both ways the customs was completely desultory. No one looked in my car or the boot. But somehow the UK end took more than twice as long. Exactly the same happened the last time I made the trip. Why is our Border Security Service so incompetent?
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At the time, I thought it a big mistake on the part of the Republicans, as they'd end up with someone to the left of Garland. But, they gambled and won.The_Apocalypse said:Mitch McConnell just posted a picture of him and Gorsuch after the news of the SCOTUS upholding the travel ban broke: https://twitter.com/team_mitch/status/1011615705568071681?s=21
Yeah, the US isn’t just going to go back to normal after Trump’s presidency. I don’t think Dems will ever move past what happened with Garland.0 -
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Will the lower courts respect the ruling though, the US legal system seems a lore unto itself even more than ours and many judges seemingly have blatant political bias.FrancisUrquhart said:US Supreme Court upholds Trump's travel ban
The US Supreme Court has ruled in favour of the Trump administration's travel ban targeting people from several Muslim-majority countries.
Lower courts had deemed the ban unconstitutional, but the US top court has reversed this decision in a 5-4 ruling announced on Tuesday.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44619976
I am sure he will be very gracious in victory.0 -
Just as good, from the Republicans' point of view, was the 5-4 decision to uphold the Congressional Boundaries of Texas.FrancisUrquhart said:US Supreme Court upholds Trump's travel ban
The US Supreme Court has ruled in favour of the Trump administration's travel ban targeting people from several Muslim-majority countries.
Lower courts had deemed the ban unconstitutional, but the US top court has reversed this decision in a 5-4 ruling announced on Tuesday.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44619976
I am sure he will be very gracious in victory.0 -
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Every time I look to what’s happening in America, I feel beyond lucky to live in this country. Several of these SCOTUS decisions are thousand times worse than Brexit.Sean_F said:
At the time, I thought it a big mistake on the part of the Republicans, as they'd end up with someone to the left of Garland. But, they gambled and won.The_Apocalypse said:Mitch McConnell just posted a picture of him and Gorsuch after the news of the SCOTUS upholding the travel ban broke: https://twitter.com/team_mitch/status/1011615705568071681?s=21
Yeah, the US isn’t just going to go back to normal after Trump’s presidency. I don’t think Dems will ever move past what happened with Garland.0 -
Based on the aerial shot, no one does. The farmer might be annoyed though. Just pointing out it was factually incorrect to say that there was no space.TOPPING said:
Amazing.RobD said:
A tiny fraction of it, maybe.TOPPING said:
Vote Brexit, trash the Green Belt.RobD said:Scott_P said:
Another comment in that thread was that there was literally no space for customs facilities at the UK terminus of the channel tunnel.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1011610133267406849
Yes, no space:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.0983661,1.1281326,4580m/data=!3m1!1e3
Let me guess your aerial shot is nowhere near where you live.0 -
The lead singer from Spandau Ballet?tpfkar said:I'm left wondering whether the Senior Meeks are the ones fomenting revolution?
We had a useful parish poll demonstrating support for a controversial housing development - yes really. People took it quite seriously.
I've always supported full recall for MPs and councillors - if you have 10% of your residents who want you out at any time you have really stuffed up. Would Boris be feeling the heat this week?
Looks like a beautiful if sleepy town - anyone famous from Hadleigh?0 -
Amazing really that the UK Govt has not made preparations for a smart border, at all as far as I can see, because if there is no smart border there will be SM/CU membership.Scott_P said:0 -
Although I've only arrived at Heathrow in the mornings, I have not once had to wait at the automatic barriers. Those things are a godsend.OblitusSumMe said:
I don't know, but I've seen the same at airports. I went through sets of automatic passport readers in Copenhagen and Amsterdam without issue, but in Edinburgh half the machines weren't working and there was an enormous queue.DavidL said:I don't want to sound bitter but it took me 70 minutes yesterday to get my car off the ferry at Newcastle and through border security/customs. In Amsterdam it took less than 30. Both ways the customs was completely desultory. No one looked in my car or the boot. But somehow the UK end took more than twice as long. Exactly the same happened the last time I made the trip. Why is our Border Security Service so incompetent?
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It wasn't factually incorrect.RobD said:Just pointing out it was factually incorrect to say that there was no space.
Neither the port of Dover, nor the Channel tunnel terminal, have enough space to build the necessary lorry parks.
They may be able to buy space, but they don't have it today0 -
Annoyed ?RobD said:
Based on the aerial shot, no one does. The farmer might be annoyed though. Just pointing out it was factually incorrect to say that there was no space.TOPPING said:
Amazing.RobD said:
A tiny fraction of it, maybe.TOPPING said:
Vote Brexit, trash the Green Belt.RobD said:Scott_P said:
Another comment in that thread was that there was literally no space for customs facilities at the UK terminus of the channel tunnel.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1011610133267406849
Yes, no space:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.0983661,1.1281326,4580m/data=!3m1!1e3
Let me guess your aerial shot is nowhere near where you live.
He;ll be rubbing his hands if Eurotunnel needs the space as he'll be able to charge what he likes for the land !0 -
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So there is some space? OK.Scott_P said:
It wasn't factually incorrect.RobD said:Just pointing out it was factually incorrect to say that there was no space.
Neither the port of Dover, nor the Channel tunnel terminal, have enough space to build the necessary lorry parks.
They may be able to buy space, but they don't have it today0 -
Could be a decent brexit dividend for the farmerRobD said:
So there is some space? OK.Scott_P said:
It wasn't factually incorrect.RobD said:Just pointing out it was factually incorrect to say that there was no space.
Neither the port of Dover, nor the Channel tunnel terminal, have enough space to build the necessary lorry parks.
They may be able to buy space, but they don't have it today0 -
We have done this one before.Scott_P said:twitter.com/thomasforth/status/1011626795936952322
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If the Republicans hold the Senate, this Autumn, and if either Ginsburg or Kennedy retire or die before 2020, (and I'd say the likelihood of both is high) then Trump will be able to appoint another hardline conservative to SCOTUS.The_Apocalypse said:
Every time I look to what’s happening in America, I feel beyond lucky to live in this country. Several of these SCOTUS decisions are thousand times worse than Brexit.Sean_F said:
At the time, I thought it a big mistake on the part of the Republicans, as they'd end up with someone to the left of Garland. But, they gambled and won.The_Apocalypse said:Mitch McConnell just posted a picture of him and Gorsuch after the news of the SCOTUS upholding the travel ban broke: https://twitter.com/team_mitch/status/1011615705568071681?s=21
Yeah, the US isn’t just going to go back to normal after Trump’s presidency. I don’t think Dems will ever move past what happened with Garland.0 -
Any farmer whose land is compulsorily purchased will be tap-dancing with joy,.Pulpstar said:
Annoyed ?RobD said:
Based on the aerial shot, no one does. The farmer might be annoyed though. Just pointing out it was factually incorrect to say that there was no space.TOPPING said:
Amazing.RobD said:
A tiny fraction of it, maybe.TOPPING said:
Vote Brexit, trash the Green Belt.RobD said:Scott_P said:
Another comment in that thread was that there was literally no space for customs facilities at the UK terminus of the channel tunnel.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1011610133267406849
Yes, no space:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.0983661,1.1281326,4580m/data=!3m1!1e3
Let me guess your aerial shot is nowhere near where you live.
He;ll be rubbing his hands if Eurotunnel needs the space as he'll be able to charge what he likes for the land !0
