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The 2017/2018 English Premier League season came to an end yesterday and the above chart shows the final rankings linked to the Brexit referendum Remain shares.
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These Brexit and football comparisons are silly.
Another example of this association that is in the news this morning is D.Miliband - it would have been a disaster if he had ever become Labour's leader. JC has much sounder views, on both domestic and foreign policy.
That would make him an excellent civil servant, a fine CEO, and a plausible CotE. He doesn't have what it would take to be PM. He would be a less impressive version of May or Brown.
He then went to the FO which involves little administration and frankly, was a failure.
That's not the full picture of the Brexit vote by a long chalk, but on the data and anecdotally we know a key driver of the Brexit vote was the margins Leave racked up in those towns - where the working class voted very differently to their city based peers as they felt their area had long been in decline and were looking to attach blame.
I feel like my F1 bets this year are giving me some insight into how frustrated strong Remain voters must feel. Narrowly losing is irksome (doing so repeatedly, even worse). Post-race ramble here: http://enormo-haddock.blogspot.co.uk/2018/05/spain-post-race-analysis-2018.html
I'd be delighted - but very surprised.
What I don't get is the religious devotion a small number seem to have for it. I don't get that in any sport (and booing an F1 podium is just ridiculous too).
It's diarrhoetic*.
Football haters may want to retreat to their bunkers, the World Cup starts shortly....
There's no history of football supporting in the family (unless grandpa counts), I don't really care, and she doesn't play. Nevertheless, she is undoubtedly a big fan
Fastest way to make me switch off in sheer boredom is to talk about football. Watching one is my idea of hell.
Now in middle age he hasn’t a son himself, but two of his daughters are quite good players.
The teams are better prepared and drilled. But international football in major tournaments is special and the stakes feel much higher.
The World Cup also gives a stage for what is truly the world's most popular sport. Countries that do not often get that degree of international prominence get their day in the sun.
I greatly enjoy watching football but I am mainly a TV fan these days. Got a slight problem for the Cup final on Saturday. Apparently someone failed to check the calendar and is getting married that day.
Yesterday was peak Klopp, we only needed a draw and he started with four strikers.
Fun fact, on the 26th of May this year Liverpool will have played in more European finals this millennium than Everton have won derbies. What a world.
Back in the days when I was a season ticket holder I used to go with 2 of my uncles and a great uncle. I don't know how much I would have seen of them otherwise. Football can be a great bond for men.
If only there were a decent leader out there.
That 80 mins against Roma was the best football I’ve ever watched.
50,000 odd Liverpool fans at Anfield needed a cigarette afterwards.
I don't understand people who don't understand why people get so involved in games.
If you want to get a feel of the good old days then the PAOK/AEK cup final was the place to be this weekend:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6270255/aek-paok-fans-clash-incredible-video/
My Greek friends are PAOK supporters, so will be happy.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/995912938048311296
We’d have finished ahead of Manchester United had we been awarded every penalty we deserved at Anfield. Heck even Spurs won more penalties at Anfield this season than us.
Plus we’ve been distracted trying to win Old Big Ears for the sixth time.
Also shall we compare Klopp’s net spend to Jose’s?
What does happen is a lot of hope and hype, but not shock and surprise.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/995912938048311296
To quote one of John McDonnell’s heroes, let a thousand flowers bloom
"But they still finished six points behind Man U and have never won the premiership !!!!!"
The Premiership? Pah!
Every year an English club win the Premiership. Even Leicester (apologies to Dr Fox) did it a couple of years ago. You only have to beat teams like West Brom and Stoke. Very seldom do you see an English club win the European Champions Cup - that is a much rarer feat.
And I'm not even a Liverpool fan.
How does the SPL table compare?
So I'd say, bloody hell, not this nonsense about football being a quasi religion again. It comes up when people are overdramatic about not caring for football. That's fine, but I don't buy the weeping resentment some display about how others like it too much. No one is judged for not liking football.
It just comes across as a less amusing version of the people who get genuinely angry, not faux angry, about euro vision being cheesy, filled with bad songs and local politics influencing it.
"t just comes across as a less amusing version of the people who get genuinely angry, not faux angry, about euro vision being cheesy,"
I've never met anyone that daft. The Euro song contest is meant to be cheesy, what else is it good for? It is what it is.
Although I still think the Polish milkmaids were robbed by the Austrian tranny. PC gone mad!
My favourite moment? The time the Swedish hostess a few years ago told the crowd around the stage "Just tell your mother you've not met the right girl yet."
For example, cities tended to vote Remain. Is that due to large population centres having a lower proportion of white people and being more ethnically mixed? Is it due to higher average wages? Is there a geographical skew (to the Central Belt in Scotland, south in Wales/England)? It could even be down to car usage.
The party aspects are no less difficult. Socially conservative people appear likelier to have voted Leave, but that includes a lot of Old Labour types, as well as old-fashioned Conservatives.
It'd be fascinating to see how we would've voted if, instead of both campaigns being dreadful, both campaigns had been fantastic. Suppose we'd had a lucid explanation of the positives of being in the EU, opposed by a confident, well-considered assessment of the advantages of leaving. Would the weight of inertia presented by the status quo and mass of the political/media class told? Would we have remained (ahem) on a course to leave, because the UK simply doesn't want the political integration?
I see the LibDems are establishing footholds in Merton, Ealing and Haringay. All it takes to start with is two or three enthusiatic members who are willing to campaign on local issues, who attract followers, and then win a few seats and enthuse members in neighbouring districts. The tinder is dry. All it needs is a flame. Then it spreads.
The often exaggeratedly short prices on England's chances caused by punters' money tend to suggest that some folk do have unrealistic expectations, though that probably applies to a lot of teams.
Haringey and Newham and Islington and Mancester and Liverpool also contain some of the highest levels of deprivation in the country.
Not sure that it tells us much bar the fact that large football clubs tend to be based in our biggest cities where you tend to find younger and more BME voters who trended remain. The people who support those clubs with their money however generally don't live locally - and actually live in leave areas in the suburbs and surrounding shires.
I'm feeling old. Can someone explain the latest lefty meme: this 'gammon' thing?
"There's nothing wrong with the car except that it's on fire."
Mr. Borough, it's a criticism of older white votes (based on them being the colour of gammon). Not quite as overt as 'white mansplaining', though:
https://twitter.com/DamCou/status/995624616998703104
Were you bicycling to holy communion through the morning mist this am?
A priest is cycling round his parish, visiting his flock, ahead of the service that evening. After emerging from a house, he can't find his bike, and decides he'll speak about the Ten Commandments, particularly Thou Shalt Not Steal (the eighth, I think).
He's just preparing his notes, running through the commandments, when he reaches the seventh, and remembers he left his bike elsewhere. The seventh, of course, being Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery...