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Amber Rudd has resigned
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One more vote in the HoC against the government's Brexit policy.0
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Rudd may have gone over the potential misleading of Parliament but for the average voter the fact the government has targets for deporting illegal migrants is probably a good thing in their view0
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Nice tip TSE, as the actress said to the bishop.0
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Not before time. Either she lied, or was utterly ignorant of what was going on in her Department.0
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It just gets betterwilliamglenn said:One more vote in the HoC against the government's Brexit policy.
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Fsake0
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sorry to see her go BUT
I did place my £50 on her going on friday pm with Shadsy... albeit not quite 33-1....0 -
Next leader, Javid. Was 60 a few days ago, now 20 on BF.0
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May left very exposed. And on such a quiet week with no major divisive votes...0
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Unless May puts a definite Remain vote in as Home Sec.Roger said:
It just gets betterwilliamglenn said:One more vote in the HoC against the government's Brexit policy.
Greening?
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Local elections are on Thursday, if the Tories do a better than expected that will quickly shore her upRochdalePioneers said:May left very exposed. And on such a quiet week with no major divisive votes...
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I wrote earlier that Rudd would survive. Obviously what I meant to say was that she would not survive, and it is fake news and social media spin that I had indicated otherwise.0
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No surprise I have to say.0
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Javid has a Yougov approval rating of -36%, not great but miles better than Hunt or Gove's approval rating of -63% and -67% respectively and slightly better than that for Mogg and Borisrottenborough said:Next leader, Javid. Was 60 a few days ago, now 20 on BF.
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That depends who replaces her.williamglenn said:One more vote in the HoC against the government's Brexit policy.
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But I doubt the public are happy about deporting legal ones. Even xenophobic BrexiteersHYUFD said:Rudd may have gone over the potential misleading of Parliament but for the average voter the fact the government has targets for deporting illegal migrants is probably a good thing in their view
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checking my ladbrokes account, I now find not only have I backed Tracey Crouch as next Tory leader but also Messrs Davis, Stewart and Mercer too.... the latter 2 at some serious odds.0
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Oh, for a touch of Trumpian steel in our jelly-spined, so-called Conservative Government!0
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Who's most likely to replace her?0
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I doubt even 10% of the public are aware of the news about deportation targets. This is a classic Westminster Bubble story - which isn't to say I don't think Rudd should have gone. She mislead Parliament.Roger said:
But I doubt the public are happy about deporting legal ones. Even xenophobic BrexiteersHYUFD said:Rudd may have gone over the potential misleading of Parliament but for the average voter the fact the government has targets for deporting illegal migrants is probably a good thing in their view
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The target was for illegal immigrantsRoger said:
But I doubt the public are happy about deporting legal ones. Even xenophobic BrexiteersHYUFD said:Rudd may have gone over the potential misleading of Parliament but for the average voter the fact the government has targets for deporting illegal migrants is probably a good thing in their view
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You want to put tariffs on Tories?blueblue said:Oh, for a touch of Trumpian steel in our jelly-spined, so-called Conservative Government!
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You were one of those telling us yesterday morning Rudd was safe.HYUFD said:
Local elections are on Thursday, if the Tories do a better than expected that will quickly shore her upRochdalePioneers said:May left very exposed. And on such a quiet week with no major divisive votes...
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You'd have thought the one lesson TMay might have learned in politics is 'Never fire your home secretary under any circumstances, no matter how many mistakes she makes'.0
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Hip Hip Hooray. Now time for her disgraceful business career to be fully exposed too.0
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Was this in fact a sacking rather than resignation in all but name?0
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In public opinion terms she was, neither Tory nor Labour voters blamed her for the Windrush affair, if she has gone it is purely on the impression of misleading Parliament, her approval ratings were actually still above most of her fellow Cabinet Ministersstodge said:
You were one of those telling us yesterday morning Rudd was safe.HYUFD said:
Local elections are on Thursday, if the Tories do a better than expected that will quickly shore her upRochdalePioneers said:May left very exposed. And on such a quiet week with no major divisive votes...
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Who thought Amber would be out the Cabinet before Boris (I wouldn't trust him to drive me home) Johnson? 0
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As another Leave voter, I've been fairly consistent throughout as what I want: that is I want us out of "political" Europe, but I want the closest possible relationship absent that.Elliot said:Sounds like you are now moving the goalposts from your original "low skilled workers would be mainly locked out" claim.
I'm talking more about the views of the general public. They are far more sceptical of immigration than you are. I would also imagine that retail workers, with their much greater exposure to the broader public, add to a feel of "there are a lot of immigrants here" more than other sectors.
I would also add that most shops in the US have American accents serving you. Even in New York you regularly hear them. Certainly in Chicago or DC. That's not true in London.
I believe that any bureaucracy associated with work permits will act as a tariff. Paperwork is like that: it may not be explicit, but there is a cost with filling in forms and the like. And so as any future relationship we have with the EU will include a degree of paperwork, it will increase the costs of coming here. That will predominantly affect low skill, low wage workers. Now, we can disagree about the amount it will affect flows (I suspect it will have a surprisingly large affect.)
But if this did not have the desired affect, it's very easy to adjust it. We could start with a £50 fee to register a worker. And if that still led to excessive levels of immigration, you could change it: perhaps to £500 or £1,000.
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Well, I think that's a pretty good sign I should call it a night, I won't manage two perceptive thoughts in one session.Benpointer said:
Agreed - very perceptive.kle4 said:
It is a pretty remarkable set of options. The government has had a torrid time of it for months, barring one good month for them, but it is still relevant Corbyn's time as LOTO has been so dramatic mostly because of internal party ructions. What are people to do?The_Taxman said:
Yes, but Labour are even worse! Corbyn finds it hard to even get a front bench together.Anazina said:This government is an absolute fucking shambles.
It might be my imagination, but it feels like when the options are objectively pretty bad, for either side of the political spectrum at the same time, the political debate becomes that much nastier, since it has to come down to partisan emotion, since it is harder for Tories/Labour to defend/promote their sides on the basis of their actual qualities, so it becomes a slanging match about how awful the other lot are. To a higher degree than usual.
Good night all.
The initial take - the resignation of a Cabinet Minister, holding one of the Great Offices of State no less, cannot be interpreted as anything but a moment of intense weakness for the government. May is even more deeply exposed than a regular PM would be, given she was the holder before Rudd. The story that prompted this was still in the news and causing trouble. And there is the constant difficulty of Brexit in the background. So this is a potentially significant moment for the government's image, direction and popularity.
However, I am unclear on how outraged people are by the intentions of the policy in question. Certainly many of the most outraged are outraged by its intention. There does seem to be a conflation between the incompetence of the political leadership and operation of the policy, and the policy itself. But if the general public are more concerned about the incompetence, then the government can mitigate the damage it takes if it is lucky and/or effective.
But it won't be easy.
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Sajid Javid.AndyJS said:Who's most likely to replace her?
I reckon Alastair made a good case for McVey and Lidington.
I think Karen Bradley might be a contender.0 -
Anna Soubry welcomes her friemd Amber to the back benches
Brexit in BINO beckons0 -
Javid would be the right appointment for a number of reasons. But will it happen? May has made some 'unusual' choices thus far. So it might be Boris for all we can tell!TheScreamingEagles said:
Sajid Javid.AndyJS said:Who's most likely to replace her?
I reckon Alastair made a good case for McVey and Lidington.
I think Karen Bradley might be a contender.0 -
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The 'closest possible relationship' implies that a 'political' Europe is in our interests, in which case the logic for being outside it collapses, particularly given that the UK is not an island but has a 300 mile land border with the EU27.rcs1000 said:
As another Leave voter, I've been fairly consistent throughout as what I want: that is I want us out of "political" Europe, but I want the closest possible relationship absent that.Elliot said:Sounds like you are now moving the goalposts from your original "low skilled workers would be mainly locked out" claim.
I'm talking more about the views of the general public. They are far more sceptical of immigration than you are. I would also imagine that retail workers, with their much greater exposure to the broader public, add to a feel of "there are a lot of immigrants here" more than other sectors.
I would also add that most shops in the US have American accents serving you. Even in New York you regularly hear them. Certainly in Chicago or DC. That's not true in London.0 -
I think it might be.AndyJS said:Was this in fact a sacking rather than resignation in all but name?
Tomorrow's session in the Commons would have been brutal for the government.0 -
Lord Falconer has resigned.0
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I wonder what has the larger wage cost discrepancy between British workers and Poles/Romanians: high skill workers or low skill ones.rcs1000 said:
As another Leave voter, I've been fairly consistent throughout as what I want: that is I want us out of "political" Europe, but I want the closest possible relationship absent that.Elliot said:Sounds like you are now moving the goalposts from your original "low skilled workers would be mainly locked out" claim.
I'm talking more about the views of the general public. They are far more sceptical of immigration than you are. I would also imagine that retail workers, with their much greater exposure to the broader public, add to a feel of "there are a lot of immigrants here" more than other sectors.
I would also add that most shops in the US have American accents serving you. Even in New York you regularly hear them. Certainly in Chicago or DC. That's not true in London.
I believe that any bureaucracy associated with work permits will act as a tariff. Paperwork is like that: it may not be explicit, but there is a cost with filling in forms and the like. And so as any future relationship we have with the EU will include a degree of paperwork, it will increase the costs of coming here. That will predominantly affect low skill, low wage workers. Now, we can disagree about the amount it will affect flows (I suspect it will have a surprisingly large affect.)
But if this did not have the desired affect, it's very easy to adjust it. We could start with a £50 fee to register a worker. And if that still led to excessive levels of immigration, you could change it: perhaps to £500 or £1,000.0 -
No it doesn't, there is no way we are leaving free movement in place, there is a chance we stay in the Customs Unions but the Single Market is definitely outBig_G_NorthWales said:Anna Soubry welcomes her friemd Amber to the back benches
Brexit in BINO beckons0 -
Diane Abbott managing what Yvette Cooper never did in 4 years as Shadow Home Sec.
Abbott is truly one of the political titans of her generation!0 -
Did you see it?Theuniondivvie said:Nice tip TSE, as the actress said to the bishop.
I've hardly mentioned it.0 -
His tweet on Friday was a joke. Rightly got flack for that.AndyJS said:
Javid should be the next Home Secretary.
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I'm feeling even more confident about my 100/1 tip on Diane Abbott being Corbyn's successor.Danny565 said:Diane Abbott managing what Yvette Cooper never did in 4 years as Shadow Home Sec.
Abbott is truly one of the political titans of her generation!0 -
Yes, because when a Cabinet Minister resigns it is always solely because of their opposite number. Come on, even as a joke it lacks plausibility to label Abbott so.Danny565 said:Diane Abbott managing what Yvette Cooper never did in 4 years as Shadow Home Sec.
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How about James Cleverly. He ran the fire brigade in London - a Home Office function - and has lots of police related experience from his time on the GLA. A black veteran representing an Essex seat?oxfordsimon said:
Javid would be the right appointment for a number of reasons. But will it happen? May has made some 'unusual' choices thus far. So it might be Boris for all we can tell!TheScreamingEagles said:
Sajid Javid.AndyJS said:Who's most likely to replace her?
I reckon Alastair made a good case for McVey and Lidington.
I think Karen Bradley might be a contender.
Maybe a big promotion but he actually has some knowledge of the issues that the HO deals with.0 -
Not his fault. The algorithm is simply programmed that way.stodge said:
You were one of those telling us yesterday morning Rudd was safe.HYUFD said:
Local elections are on Thursday, if the Tories do a better than expected that will quickly shore her upRochdalePioneers said:May left very exposed. And on such a quiet week with no major divisive votes...
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Wasn't it under cross-examination by Yvette at that select committee meeting that it all started to unravel for Amber?Danny565 said:Diane Abbott managing what Yvette Cooper never did in 4 years as Shadow Home Sec.
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Er, no, it was Yvette who exploded the bomb by asking, in committee, about the regional targets.Danny565 said:Diane Abbott managing what Yvette Cooper never did in 4 years as Shadow Home Sec.
Abbott is truly one of the political titans of her generation!0 -
I was in a meeting when it was posted I think >.>TheScreamingEagles said:
Did you see it?Theuniondivvie said:Nice tip TSE, as the actress said to the bishop.
I've hardly mentioned it.
Obviously I dropped a ton on her staying till Tuesday too
And a reheated 11 day old news story finally does for her ffsake0 -
I think Lidington is a strong bet, too. And Bradley.TheScreamingEagles said:
Sajid Javid.AndyJS said:Who's most likely to replace her?
I reckon Alastair made a good case for McVey and Lidington.
I think Karen Bradley might be a contender.
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Well hopefully Monticello, Siberian Pacific Resources and Kensington Resources to name but a few will mean a bit more to the average person in time.0
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David Herdson said on Saturdays thread Amber Rudd was safe for now.0
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Hammond to the Home Office, Lord Osborne to the Treasury?0
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Sajid Javid is now the 2/1 favourite to be Home Secretary.0
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Fake news. He went yesterday.Anazina said:Lord Falconer has resigned.
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For all Verstappen fans, this clip of his being overtaken by Maldonado back in 2015 is rather funny...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4VcjE3F6oN80 -
Or, he may be proved right. His message was: be careful what you wish for...AndyJS said:0 -
In the last few weeks he’s another one who has been ridiculous. Even in his years at the Telegraph, I may not have agreed with all of what he said but I still thought he was worth a read.rottenborough said:This has aged well:
https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/9906393961174138880 -
I feel your pain.Pulpstar said:
I was in a meeting when it was posted I think >.>TheScreamingEagles said:
Did you see it?Theuniondivvie said:Nice tip TSE, as the actress said to the bishop.
I've hardly mentioned it.
Obviously I dropped a ton on her staying till Tuesday too
And a reheated 11 day old news story finally does for her ffsake0 -
Mourdount?oxfordsimon said:
Javid would be the right appointment for a number of reasons. But will it happen? May has made some 'unusual' choices thus far. So it might be Boris for all we can tell!TheScreamingEagles said:
Sajid Javid.AndyJS said:Who's most likely to replace her?
I reckon Alastair made a good case for McVey and Lidington.
I think Karen Bradley might be a contender.0 -
Surely, a reshuffle means Rory finally makes Cabinet?0
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That was Saturday. That memo may not have been new (apparently) but it rose in attention and changed the dynamics. Rudd's remaining in place as a shield made sense, but things were clearly going to get so hot the shield was going to evaporate, so it was time for it to be discarded. The fire may well now hit May, so watch out for the political equivalent of diving into a lake to put out the flames (eg a big u-turn, or deliberate raising of another huge issue to distract)Yorkcity said:David Herdson said on Saturdays thread Amber Rudd was safe for now.
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Note to No 10: can we get Kwasi Kwarteng in the cabinet, please?0
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Whoever was leaking to the guardian , must be the main reason she resigned.kle4 said:
Yes, because when a Cabinet Minister resigns it is always solely because of their opposite number. Come on, even as a joke it lacks plausibility to label Abbott so.Danny565 said:Diane Abbott managing what Yvette Cooper never did in 4 years as Shadow Home Sec.
Abbott is truly one of the political titans of her generation!
Hard to understand what she stated to parliament , makes no sense to me.0 -
I'm not even (completely) joking.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm feeling even more confident about my 100/1 tip on Diane Abbott being Corbyn's successor.Danny565 said:Diane Abbott managing what Yvette Cooper never did in 4 years as Shadow Home Sec.
Abbott is truly one of the political titans of her generation!
She said in December 2016 that Labour would catch up with the Tories in the polls within 12 months. Commentators scoffed, but she turned out to be right, showing her great political predictive skills.
Then her car-crash interview on police cuts got a lot of negative publicity in the short run, but it also made the public aware that Labour wanted to increase police numbers - which paid dividends later on in the campaign after the terrorist attacks. Brilliant Machiavellian strategic skills from Diane there.
Now she's shown her skills at the day-to-day opposition work, by harrying the government into the most senior scandal-related resignation in years.
People can mock her all they want, but Di always has the last laugh!0 -
Who's going to make the HoC statement tomorrow? Will they ask Rudd's predecessor maybe?0
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Well, don't forget that a fixed fee for an employer is a much higher % of cost for a low skilled worker than a high skilled one.Elliot said:
I wonder what has the larger wage cost discrepancy between British workers and Poles/Romanians: high skill workers or low skill ones.rcs1000 said:
As another Leave voter, I've been fairly consistent throughout as what I want: that is I want us out of "political" Europe, but I want the closest possible relationship absent that.Elliot said:Sounds like you are now moving the goalposts from your original "low skilled workers would be mainly locked out" claim.
I'm talking more about the views of the general public. They are far more sceptical of immigration than you are. I would also imagine that retail workers, with their much greater exposure to the broader public, add to a feel of "there are a lot of immigrants here" more than other sectors.
I would also add that most shops in the US have American accents serving you. Even in New York you regularly hear them. Certainly in Chicago or DC. That's not true in London.
I believe that any bureaucracy associated with work permits will act as a tariff. Paperwork is like that: it may not be explicit, but there is a cost with filling in forms and the like. And so as any future relationship we have with the EU will include a degree of paperwork, it will increase the costs of coming here. That will predominantly affect low skill, low wage workers. Now, we can disagree about the amount it will affect flows (I suspect it will have a surprisingly large affect.)
But if this did not have the desired affect, it's very easy to adjust it. We could start with a £50 fee to register a worker. And if that still led to excessive levels of immigration, you could change it: perhaps to £500 or £1,000.
I'm the CFO of a mid sized tech company - c. 1,200 workers worldwide, with the biggest concentration being London and Estonia (both about 25% of the workforce each).
The thing I'm most worried about is secondment visas: we regularly have people from Estonian teams come to the UK for six to nine months, and vice-versa. These aren't people looking to emigrate, but to learn from working on another team. We need to make sure there is an easy process for enabling this kind of thing.0 -
I’m surprised that Rudd’s gone.
I think she’s a bungler, but she seemed one of the better talents in Cabinet. I didn’t detect any antipathy toward her from the public - pity if anything. It feels like May has hung her out to dry.
Yet May must realise she is now very exposed. Apart from anything else, Rudd was a loyal counterweight to Johnson et al.
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That this memo was apparently not new, and yet she still made statements which contradicted it...mind boggling. She's not been good at damage control.Yorkcity said:
Whoever was leaking to the guardian , must be the main reason she resigned.kle4 said:
Yes, because when a Cabinet Minister resigns it is always solely because of their opposite number. Come on, even as a joke it lacks plausibility to label Abbott so.Danny565 said:Diane Abbott managing what Yvette Cooper never did in 4 years as Shadow Home Sec.
Abbott is truly one of the political titans of her generation!
Hard to understand what she stated to parliament , makes no sense to me.
But now good night for real.0 -
Might they send the police in , to find the leaker at the Home Office ?kle4 said:
That was Saturday. That memo may not have been new (apparently) but it rose in attention and changed the dynamics. Rudd's remaining in place as a shield made sense, but things were clearly going to get so hot the shield was going to evaporate, so it was time for it to be discarded. The fire may well now hit May, so watch out for the political equivalent of diving into a lake to put out the flames (eg a big u-turn, or deliberate raising of another huge issue to distract)Yorkcity said:David Herdson said on Saturdays thread Amber Rudd was safe for now.
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The sickening sound of a barrel being scraped.Mortimer said:
I think Lidington is a strong bet, too. And Bradley.TheScreamingEagles said:
Sajid Javid.AndyJS said:Who's most likely to replace her?
I reckon Alastair made a good case for McVey and Lidington.
I think Karen Bradley might be a contender.0 -
Naughty...Benpointer said:Who's going to make the HoC statement tomorrow? Will they ask Rudd's predecessor maybe?
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I should think Lord Osborne to the Tower is more likely while May remains PMwilliamglenn said:Hammond to the Home Office, Lord Osborne to the Treasury?
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About Immigration? The immigration minister, I'd suspect. Caroline Nokes.Benpointer said:Who's going to make the HoC statement tomorrow? Will they ask Rudd's predecessor maybe?
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Does this prove that May, despite appearances, is a genius to have survived six years at Home.0
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I don't think that will cut it somehow.Mortimer said:
About Immigration? The immigration minister, I'd suspect. Caroline Nokes.Benpointer said:Who's going to make the HoC statement tomorrow? Will they ask Rudd's predecessor maybe?
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Yvette did the work.Danny565 said:
I'm not even (completely) joking.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm feeling even more confident about my 100/1 tip on Diane Abbott being Corbyn's successor.Danny565 said:Diane Abbott managing what Yvette Cooper never did in 4 years as Shadow Home Sec.
Abbott is truly one of the political titans of her generation!
She said in December 2016 that Labour would catch up with the Tories in the polls within 12 months. Commentators scoffed, but she turned out to be right, showing her great political predictive skills.
Then her car-crash interview on police cuts got a lot of negative publicity in the short run, but it also made the public aware that Labour wanted to increase police numbers - which paid dividends later on in the campaign after the terrorist attacks. Brilliant Machiavellian strategic skills from Diane there.
Now she's shown her skills at the day-to-day opposition work, by harrying the government into the most senior scandal-related resignation in years.
People can mock her all they want, but Di always has the last laugh!0 -
When there is a vacancy, it would usually be the relevant minister of state who steps in.Benpointer said:
I don't think that will cut it somehow.Mortimer said:
About Immigration? The immigration minister, I'd suspect. Caroline Nokes.Benpointer said:Who's going to make the HoC statement tomorrow? Will they ask Rudd's predecessor maybe?
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You can find some great stuff at the bottom of a barrel.Anazina said:
The sickening sound of a barrel being scraped.Mortimer said:
I think Lidington is a strong bet, too. And Bradley.TheScreamingEagles said:
Sajid Javid.AndyJS said:Who's most likely to replace her?
I reckon Alastair made a good case for McVey and Lidington.
I think Karen Bradley might be a contender.
If you're lucky.0 -
Except Nokes is in trouble herself at the moment.Mortimer said:
About Immigration? The immigration minister, I'd suspect. Caroline Nokes.Benpointer said:Who's going to make the HoC statement tomorrow? Will they ask Rudd's predecessor maybe?
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/news/94759/tories-probe-minister-caroline-nokes-over0 -
Chortle.Mortimer said:
About Immigration? The immigration minister, I'd suspect. Caroline Nokes.Benpointer said:Who's going to make the HoC statement tomorrow? Will they ask Rudd's predecessor maybe?
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I agree . 66-1 on himrottenborough said:Surely, a reshuffle means Rory finally makes Cabinet?
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I don't think May has hung her out to dry so much as stood back while she too the blame for May's policy decisions. But the hammer blow seems to have been self-inflicted by Rudd in the end.Gardenwalker said:I’m surprised that Rudd’s gone.
I think she’s a bungler, but she seemed one of the better talents in Cabinet. I didn’t detect any antipathy toward her from the public - pity if anything. It feels like May has hung her out to dry.
Yet May must realise she is now very exposed. Apart from anything else, Rudd was a loyal counterweight to Johnson et al.
Bring back Damian Green?
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I agree . 66-1 on himrottenborough said:Surely, a reshuffle means Rory finally makes Cabinet?
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Saw this in the paper earlier. Sounds like there is little to investigate. Check with the council; job done....TheScreamingEagles said:
Except Nokes is in trouble herself at the moment.Mortimer said:
About Immigration? The immigration minister, I'd suspect. Caroline Nokes.Benpointer said:Who's going to make the HoC statement tomorrow? Will they ask Rudd's predecessor maybe?
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/news/94759/tories-probe-minister-caroline-nokes-over0 -
Danny565 said:
Diane Abbott managing what Yvette Cooper never did in 4 years as Shadow Home Sec.
Abbott is truly one of the political titans of her generation!
It was Cooper's questioning during the Select Committee which led to all this.
My guess at new Home Secretary would be Greg Clark. May has run out of allies so is left with promoting the safest pair of hands available. I don't think she'd want one of Osborne's allies like Javid in such a high position.0 -
Am I right in saying this is going to be the 5th reshuffle since the election...
One in June 2017 immediately after the election
One after Priti Patel quit
One a week later after Michael Fallon quit
Then the botched one in January when people refused to move jobs.0 -
As we are making off-the-wall predictions, how about David Davis to the Home Office: he was Shadow HS until he resigned, and no, I can't see it either. Javid for the reasons TSE gave and his Telegraph article.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/04/28/sajid-javids-windrush-fury-could-have-mum-dad/
Javid also led on antisemitism and is preparing the Windrush anniversary celebrations.0 -
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Sharon or Ozzy ?williamglenn said:Hammond to the Home Office, Lord Osborne to the Treasury?
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Nah.. Tory leader... Along with crouch. Dd or mercer.. Heck of a portfolio that.rottenborough said:
As?Scrapheap_as_was said:
I agree . 66-1 on himrottenborough said:Surely, a reshuffle means Rory finally makes Cabinet?
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You have to feel sorry for all those sent out to defend her on this mornings political shows.
Jo Johnson is the most boring politician I have seen in a long while.
When he was on Preston , they could not wait to get him off air.0
