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Are ISIS pro or anti Corbyn? Hmm? Because I can assure you that EVERY political decision must be put through the "are they pro or anti Corbyn" filter.kle4 said:
For fun I tried to put that into Google to see what would come up, and accidentally pasted it into a ebay search bar instead- 0 results, but the first imperfect result it came up with was a 'F*** ISIS' T shirt.RochdalePioneers said:Everyone is missing the MOST IMPORTANT question about the Syria crisis:
Is Assad pro or anti Corbyn?
Someone should tell YouGov st Al as they are missing a question on their polls0 -
Depends on which poll you look at, a Sky poll this week had 36% of voters backing missile strikes against the Assad regime in response to its chemical wweapons attack and 37% opposed, so effectively tied
https://mobile.twitter.com/britainelects/status/984150100896288769
In any case it is Macron taking the European lead on strikes not May0 -
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
How did the South Yorrkshire police come to be involved? His house was in BerkshireFrancisUrquhart said:
Why the BBC didn't just apologise like the plod and move on is beyond me.Roger said:
So's CliffFrancisUrquhart said:Adonis is very angry at the bbc again ,
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/apr/12/bbc-to-air-reading-of-enoch-powells-rivers-of-blood-speech
Instead it is now being built up into some massive test case and could end up being extremely expensive.0 -
Sounds like a very good reason to sack someone from the Cabinet, if so. I'm actually relatively positive toward the man, but unless there's a compelling reason he should not be (a non political reason) how can you not be sacked for that?HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Mr Corbyn responded by saying that "somebody was obviously responsible for it and that somebody has to be found". The student subsequently asked Mr Corbyn: "You don't think it's Putin?". Mr Corbyn responded: "I don't say it is or isn't. I say an investigation must take place so...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/04/12/jeremy-corbyn-confronted-sixth-former-refuses-say-putin-behind/
He just can't admit it can he. Unless Putin comes out on tv and says I did it, Jezza will keep trying to use weasel words.
If Trump was doing this the media would be doing their nut.0 -
Not good for his leadership prospects - another one of the listHYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Bring on the new intake0 -
Jo Johnson on Question Time and while he has made some reasonably sensible points he comes across as very dull, I think we can see where all the charisma genes went in the Johnson family0
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I guess because the allegation was based around an event that took place in South Yorkshire.Roger said:
How did the South Yorrkshire police come to be involved? His house was in BerkshireFrancisUrquhart said:
Why the BBC didn't just apologise like the plod and move on is beyond me.Roger said:
So's CliffFrancisUrquhart said:Adonis is very angry at the bbc again ,
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/apr/12/bbc-to-air-reading-of-enoch-powells-rivers-of-blood-speech
Instead it is now being built up into some massive test case and could end up being extremely expensive.0 -
What a bloody weasel he is. I swear Putin could confess and Corbyn would still express some illogical doubts so that he could avoid taking action. If it wasn't for his decades of spouting similar guff I'd assume that Putin pays him to say stuff like this.FrancisUrquhart said:Mr Corbyn responded by saying that "somebody was obviously responsible for it and that somebody has to be found". The student subsequently asked Mr Corbyn: "You don't think it's Putin?". Mr Corbyn responded: "I don't say it is or isn't. I say an investigation must take place so...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/04/12/jeremy-corbyn-confronted-sixth-former-refuses-say-putin-behind/0 -
Funny, I could have sworn he put out a statement more than a month ago that said he accepted it was highly likely to have been Russia. Must be another case of him meaning something other than what his spokesman says he means - since that quote, if true, would seem to be not taking a stance at all, when he's supposed to have weighed in on the 'highly likely' but 'let's be cautious' side of things.FrancisUrquhart said:Mr Corbyn responded by saying that "somebody was obviously responsible for it and that somebody has to be found". The student subsequently asked Mr Corbyn: "You don't think it's Putin?". Mr Corbyn responded: "I don't say it is or isn't. I say an investigation must take place so...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/04/12/jeremy-corbyn-confronted-sixth-former-refuses-say-putin-behind/
Jeremy Corbyn said the "evidence points towards Russia" being responsible for the Salisbury attack but he did not go as far as his shadow defence secretary.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43414185
Is this another case of this great communicator communicating very poorly? Why didn't he just say the same as he did in the link rather than seeming to take no stance at all?0 -
Far be it from me to say I told TSE if it is true!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Not good for his leadership prospects - another one of the listHYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Bring on the new intake0 -
It certainly sounds serious and potentially illegal but we need more evidence before making a final judgementkle4 said:
Sounds like a very good reason to sack someone from the Cabinet, if so. I'm actually relatively positive toward the man, but unless there's a compelling reason he should not be (a non political reason) how can you not be sacked for that?HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Now THAT'S funny!!!!Scott_P said:0 -
After watching Newsnight, I'm even more confused about what the point of this military action would be.
Theresa May's former adviser was interviewed, who said they wouldn't be seeking to topple Assad. One of the Newsnight correspondents said that Russia would be informed of where the strike targets would be in advance (who would then presumably tell the Syrians and give time for evacuations). So what will actually be achieved??0 -
It's not Putin, it's anyone other than us or the USglw said:
What a bloody weasel he is. I swear Putin could confess and Corbyn would still express some illogical doubts so that he could avoid taking action. If it wasn't for his decades of spouting similar guff I'd assume that Putin pays him to say stuff like this.FrancisUrquhart said:Mr Corbyn responded by saying that "somebody was obviously responsible for it and that somebody has to be found". The student subsequently asked Mr Corbyn: "You don't think it's Putin?". Mr Corbyn responded: "I don't say it is or isn't. I say an investigation must take place so...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/04/12/jeremy-corbyn-confronted-sixth-former-refuses-say-putin-behind/0 -
And we know Theresa May wanted to move him from Health last time. Hunt's only chance is if (and I've not read the story) it is an offence too technical to be grasped by the voter on the Clapham omnibus, or sent up on HIGNFY.kle4 said:
Sounds like a very good reason to sack someone from the Cabinet, if so. I'm actually relatively positive toward the man, but unless there's a compelling reason he should not be (a non political reason) how can you not be sacked for that?HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
You say different things and you can probably be sure of being right once, with the "wrongs" being deniable on the basis of context or misinterpretations. I cannot agree with the "great communicator" label, "great rabble-rouser", yes.kle4 said:
Funny, I could have sworn he put out a statement more than a month ago that said he accepted it was highly likely to have been Russia. Must be another case of him meaning something other than what his spokesman says he means - since that quote, if true, would seem to be not taking a stance at all, when he's supposed to have weighed in on the 'highly likely' but 'let's be cautious' side of things.FrancisUrquhart said:Mr Corbyn responded by saying that "somebody was obviously responsible for it and that somebody has to be found". The student subsequently asked Mr Corbyn: "You don't think it's Putin?". Mr Corbyn responded: "I don't say it is or isn't. I say an investigation must take place so...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/04/12/jeremy-corbyn-confronted-sixth-former-refuses-say-putin-behind/
Jeremy Corbyn said the "evidence points towards Russia" being responsible for the Salisbury attack but he did not go as far as his shadow defence secretary.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43414185
Is this another case of this great communicator communicating very poorly? Why didn't he just say the same as he did in the link rather than seeming to take no stance at all?0 -
It is not and never has been about regime change. It is about the rules based system where no one uses chemical weapons. France, the US , UK and Saudi (mentioned tonight as part of the coalition) and others will degrade the ability for Assad to make chemical weapons and the means of deliveryDanny565 said:After watching Newsnight, I'm even more confused about what the point of this military action would be.
Theresa May's former adviser was interviewed, who said they wouldn't be seeking to topple Assad. One of the Newsnight correspondents said that Russia would be informed of where the strike targets would be in advance (who would then presumably tell the Syrians and give time for evacuations). So what will actually be achieved??
If no action is taken now it shows to all crack pots they can use chemical weapons with no consequences.
Macron is leading this more than Trump at present0 -
It looks as if it was a technical mistake made by Hunt's accountant. TSE's betting slips should not be torn up just yet.DecrepitJohnL said:
And we know Theresa May wanted to move him from Health last time. Hunt's only chance is if (and I've not read the story) it is an offence too technical to be grasped by the voter on the Clapham omnibus, or sent up on HIGNFY.kle4 said:
Sounds like a very good reason to sack someone from the Cabinet, if so. I'm actually relatively positive toward the man, but unless there's a compelling reason he should not be (a non political reason) how can you not be sacked for that?HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
If it had been on a quiet news cycle he would, more than likely, been sacked or made to resignHYUFD said:
It certainly sounds serious and potentially illegal but we need more evidence before making a final judgementkle4 said:
Sounds like a very good reason to sack someone from the Cabinet, if so. I'm actually relatively positive toward the man, but unless there's a compelling reason he should not be (a non political reason) how can you not be sacked for that?HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
How are they going to degrade the ability to make chemical weapons? I don't see how that can be remotely achieved without ground troops.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not and never has been about regime change. It is about the rules based system where no one uses chemical weapons. France, the US , UK and Saudi (mentioned tonight as part of the coalition) and others will degrade the ability for Assad to make chemical weapons and the means of deliveryDanny565 said:After watching Newsnight, I'm even more confused about what the point of this military action would be.
Theresa May's former adviser was interviewed, who said they wouldn't be seeking to topple Assad. One of the Newsnight correspondents said that Russia would be informed of where the strike targets would be in advance (who would then presumably tell the Syrians and give time for evacuations). So what will actually be achieved??
If no action is taken now it shows to all crack pots they can use chemical weapons with no consequences.
Macron is leading this more than Trump at present
As for the "send a message" stuff, I'm not quite following how we'll send a message of how morally abhorrent it is to drop bombs on innocent civilians by......dropping bombs on innocent civilians ourselves.0 -
If so, that sounds like the sort of thing which could prevent a sacking, but which would probably still be a big hindrance to taking the top job - who'd want their leader to have to get into the details of how this serious sounding crime was really just their accountant screwing up, when it is inevitably brought up? Hunt might surprise, and as I say I'm reasonably well disposed to the man, but I doubt he would inspire the sort of passionate fanbase which would allow for him to baldfacedly ignore the criticisms he would face for that.DecrepitJohnL said:
It looks as if it was a technical mistake made by Hunt's accountant. TSE's betting slips should not be torn up just yet.DecrepitJohnL said:
And we know Theresa May wanted to move him from Health last time. Hunt's only chance is if (and I've not read the story) it is an offence too technical to be grasped by the voter on the Clapham omnibus, or sent up on HIGNFY.kle4 said:
Sounds like a very good reason to sack someone from the Cabinet, if so. I'm actually relatively positive toward the man, but unless there's a compelling reason he should not be (a non political reason) how can you not be sacked for that?HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
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Newsnight is a day late and a dollar short. All those possibilities were reported on this forum last night.Danny565 said:After watching Newsnight, I'm even more confused about what the point of this military action would be.
Theresa May's former adviser was interviewed, who said they wouldn't be seeking to topple Assad. One of the Newsnight correspondents said that Russia would be informed of where the strike targets would be in advance (who would then presumably tell the Syrians and give time for evacuations). So what will actually be achieved??0 -
https://twitter.com/mattholehouse/status/984425959251218433TheScreamingEagles said:Theresa May’s officials could be lining up to keep the U.K. in the European customs union after Brexit, according to a new analysis that chimes with the views of parts of the British government.
Some of May’s officials think that quitting the customs union in order to win the power to strike free trade agreements with countries such as the U.S. or Australia is not as desirable as passionate Brexit supporters believe.
Such trade deals with third countries can take a long time to negotiate and end up mired in litigation, while measures short of formal FTAs can still deliver significant benefits, one person said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the discussions are private.
Added to this, the growing view in May’s office is that, after a narrow referendum result and a close general election, she has no mandate for an extreme Brexit, according to an official.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-11/may-s-brexit-red-line-on-customs-union-could-be-next-to-go
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Macron leading is one thing but he must keep looking behind to check America is still following. Putin will be quite relaxed about shooting down French planes.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not and never has been about regime change. It is about the rules based system where no one uses chemical weapons. France, the US , UK and Saudi (mentioned tonight as part of the coalition) and others will degrade the ability for Assad to make chemical weapons and the means of deliveryDanny565 said:After watching Newsnight, I'm even more confused about what the point of this military action would be.
Theresa May's former adviser was interviewed, who said they wouldn't be seeking to topple Assad. One of the Newsnight correspondents said that Russia would be informed of where the strike targets would be in advance (who would then presumably tell the Syrians and give time for evacuations). So what will actually be achieved??
If no action is taken now it shows to all crack pots they can use chemical weapons with no consequences.
Macron is leading this more than Trump at present0 -
The 'smart' missiles are accurate to a metre or so and will pin point buildings known for the manufacture of the chemical components. The helicopters used to deliver the WMD will be similarly disposed off. Plenty of notice has been given and Assad is rumoured to have left the CountryDanny565 said:
How are they going to degrade the ability to make chemical weapons? I don't see how that can be remotely achieved without ground troops.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not and never has been about regime change. It is about the rules based system where no one uses chemical weapons. France, the US , UK and Saudi (mentioned tonight as part of the coalition) and others will degrade the ability for Assad to make chemical weapons and the means of deliveryDanny565 said:After watching Newsnight, I'm even more confused about what the point of this military action would be.
Theresa May's former adviser was interviewed, who said they wouldn't be seeking to topple Assad. One of the Newsnight correspondents said that Russia would be informed of where the strike targets would be in advance (who would then presumably tell the Syrians and give time for evacuations). So what will actually be achieved??
If no action is taken now it shows to all crack pots they can use chemical weapons with no consequences.
Macron is leading this more than Trump at present
As for the "send a message" stuff, I'm not quite following how we'll send a message of how morally abhorrent it is to drop bombs on innocent civilians by......dropping bombs on innocent civilians ourselves.0 -
Where does this take us...what about Burma where thousands upon thousands have been murdered, raped and tortured by the notional government....in Israel where the Govt have shot at unarmed protestors....?Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not and never has been about regime change. It is about the rules based system where no one uses chemical weapons. France, the US , UK and Saudi (mentioned tonight as part of the coalition) and others will degrade the ability for Assad to make chemical weapons and the means of deliveryDanny565 said:After watching Newsnight, I'm even more confused about what the point of this military action would be.
Theresa May's former adviser was interviewed, who said they wouldn't be seeking to topple Assad. One of the Newsnight correspondents said that Russia would be informed of where the strike targets would be in advance (who would then presumably tell the Syrians and give time for evacuations). So what will actually be achieved??
If no action is taken now it shows to all crack pots they can use chemical weapons with no consequences.
Macron is leading this more than Trump at present
I fucking hate Assad with a visceral loathing.....but what does some tokenistic bombing do?
And then you have the likes of the seanT here whose hatred of all things Muslim object to any single Muslim fleeing to the West to escape this sheer hatred and violence. Trump...who doesn't want to accept a single refugee from Syria......
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I doubt it as this would then bring in NATODecrepitJohnL said:
Macron leading is one thing but he must keep looking behind to check America is still following. Putin will be quite relaxed about shooting down French planes.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not and never has been about regime change. It is about the rules based system where no one uses chemical weapons. France, the US , UK and Saudi (mentioned tonight as part of the coalition) and others will degrade the ability for Assad to make chemical weapons and the means of deliveryDanny565 said:After watching Newsnight, I'm even more confused about what the point of this military action would be.
Theresa May's former adviser was interviewed, who said they wouldn't be seeking to topple Assad. One of the Newsnight correspondents said that Russia would be informed of where the strike targets would be in advance (who would then presumably tell the Syrians and give time for evacuations). So what will actually be achieved??
If no action is taken now it shows to all crack pots they can use chemical weapons with no consequences.
Macron is leading this more than Trump at present0 -
And if you check Companies House records, you can follow the money and see where it traces back to. That wouldn't be somewhere in the borough of Barnet would it?!HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
It says and I quote 'The Health Secretary, who has a personal fortune of more than £14 million, initially failed to declare his 50 per cent interest in the property firm to Companies House - a criminal offence punishable by a fine or up to two years in prison.DecrepitJohnL said:
It looks as if it was a technical mistake made by Hunt's accountant. TSE's betting slips should not be torn up just yet.DecrepitJohnL said:
And we know Theresa May wanted to move him from Health last time. Hunt's only chance is if (and I've not read the story) it is an offence too technical to be grasped by the voter on the Clapham omnibus, or sent up on HIGNFY.kle4 said:
Sounds like a very good reason to sack someone from the Cabinet, if so. I'm actually relatively positive toward the man, but unless there's a compelling reason he should not be (a non political reason) how can you not be sacked for that?HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Mr Hunt also failed to disclose his interest in the property firm on the Parliamentary Register of Members’ interests within the required 28 days.'
If he can blame all that on his accountant he will be a very lucky man indeed!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/04/12/exclusive-jeremy-hunt-admits-breaking-governments-rules-company/0 -
Trump will just lob a few missiles at Assad like Clinton did against Bin Laden and the news cycle moves on within a day or twoDanny565 said:After watching Newsnight, I'm even more confused about what the point of this military action would be.
Theresa May's former adviser was interviewed, who said they wouldn't be seeking to topple Assad. One of the Newsnight correspondents said that Russia would be informed of where the strike targets would be in advance (who would then presumably tell the Syrians and give time for evacuations). So what will actually be achieved??0 -
They are all evil acts but WMD have not been used as far as I am awaretyson said:
Where does this take us...what about Burma where thousands upon thousands have been murdered, raped and tortured by the notional government....in Israel where the Govt have shot at unarmed protestors....?Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not and never has been about regime change. It is about the rules based system where no one uses chemical weapons. France, the US , UK and Saudi (mentioned tonight as part of the coalition) and others will degrade the ability for Assad to make chemical weapons and the means of deliveryDanny565 said:After watching Newsnight, I'm even more confused about what the point of this military action would be.
Theresa May's former adviser was interviewed, who said they wouldn't be seeking to topple Assad. One of the Newsnight correspondents said that Russia would be informed of where the strike targets would be in advance (who would then presumably tell the Syrians and give time for evacuations). So what will actually be achieved??
If no action is taken now it shows to all crack pots they can use chemical weapons with no consequences.
Macron is leading this more than Trump at present
I fucking hate Assad with a visceral loathing.....but what does some tokenistic bombing do?
And then you have the likes of the seanT here whose hatred of all things Muslim object to any single Muslim fleeing to the West to escape this sheer hatred and violence. Trump...who doesn't want to accept a single refugee from Syria......
WMD are a red line for the UN and but for Russia and Bolivia voting down action this matter could have been resolved by the UN0 -
That's a resignable matter I think. Bye bye Hunt.HYUFD said:
It says and I quote 'The Health Secretary, who has a personal fortune of more than £14 million, initially failed to declare his 50 per cent interest in the property firm to Companies House - a criminal offence punishable by a fine or up to two years in prison.DecrepitJohnL said:
It looks as if it was a technical mistake made by Hunt's accountant. TSE's betting slips should not be torn up just yet.DecrepitJohnL said:
And we know Theresa May wanted to move him from Health last time. Hunt's only chance is if (and I've not read the story) it is an offence too technical to be grasped by the voter on the Clapham omnibus, or sent up on HIGNFY.kle4 said:
Sounds like a very good reason to sack someone from the Cabinet, if so. I'm actually relatively positive toward the man, but unless there's a compelling reason he should not be (a non political reason) how can you not be sacked for that?HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Mr Hunt also failed to disclose his interest in the property firm on the Parliamentary Register of Members’ interests within the required 28 days.'
If he can blame all that on his accountant he will be a very lucky man indeed!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/04/12/exclusive-jeremy-hunt-admits-breaking-governments-rules-company/0 -
The properties were in Southampton apparently, where the trail leads who knowshunchman said:
And if you check Companies House records, you can follow the money and see where it traces back to. That wouldn't be somewhere in the borough of Barnet would it?!HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
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Thought your conspiracy theories were all based in Finchley.hunchman said:
And if you check Companies House records, you can follow the money and see where it traces back to. That wouldn't be somewhere in the borough of Barnet would it?!HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Mind you I do not normally comment as I tend to give you a miss, in a polite way0 -
Yes, he will be lucky to ride this one out, May might need to start searching for a new Health Secretarykle4 said:
That's a resignable matter I think. Bye bye Hunt.HYUFD said:
It says and I quote 'The Health Secretary, who has a personal fortune of more than £14 million, initially failed to declare his 50 per cent interest in the property firm to Companies House - a criminal offence punishable by a fine or up to two years in prison.DecrepitJohnL said:
It looks as if it was a technical mistake made by Hunt's accountant. TSE's betting slips should not be torn up just yet.DecrepitJohnL said:
And we know Theresa May wanted to move him from Health last time. Hunt's only chance is if (and I've not read the story) it is an offence too technical to be grasped by the voter on the Clapham omnibus, or sent up on HIGNFY.kle4 said:
Sounds like a very good reason to sack someone from the Cabinet, if so. I'm actually relatively positive toward the man, but unless there's a compelling reason he should not be (a non political reason) how can you not be sacked for that?HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Mr Hunt also failed to disclose his interest in the property firm on the Parliamentary Register of Members’ interests within the required 28 days.'
If he can blame all that on his accountant he will be a very lucky man indeed!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/04/12/exclusive-jeremy-hunt-admits-breaking-governments-rules-company/0 -
Exactly.....if Trump cared about Syrians he would accept far more migrants....all Trump cares about is Trump and the news...HYUFD said:
Trump will just lob a few missiles at Assad like Clinton did against Bin Laden and the news cycle moves on within a day or twoDanny565 said:After watching Newsnight, I'm even more confused about what the point of this military action would be.
Theresa May's former adviser was interviewed, who said they wouldn't be seeking to topple Assad. One of the Newsnight correspondents said that Russia would be informed of where the strike targets would be in advance (who would then presumably tell the Syrians and give time for evacuations). So what will actually be achieved??
Similarly May...she could say we could step up humanitarian efforts...instead let's just lob some bombs...Macron too.....
Our politicians are just a bunch of useless......I can't think of the words....
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At the very least the end of any further ambitionskle4 said:
That's a resignable matter I think. Bye bye Hunt.HYUFD said:
It says and I quote 'The Health Secretary, who has a personal fortune of more than £14 million, initially failed to declare his 50 per cent interest in the property firm to Companies House - a criminal offence punishable by a fine or up to two years in prison.DecrepitJohnL said:
It looks as if it was a technical mistake made by Hunt's accountant. TSE's betting slips should not be torn up just yet.DecrepitJohnL said:
And we know Theresa May wanted to move him from Health last time. Hunt's only chance is if (and I've not read the story) it is an offence too technical to be grasped by the voter on the Clapham omnibus, or sent up on HIGNFY.kle4 said:
Sounds like a very good reason to sack someone from the Cabinet, if so. I'm actually relatively positive toward the man, but unless there's a compelling reason he should not be (a non political reason) how can you not be sacked for that?HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Mr Hunt also failed to disclose his interest in the property firm on the Parliamentary Register of Members’ interests within the required 28 days.'
If he can blame all that on his accountant he will be a very lucky man indeed!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/04/12/exclusive-jeremy-hunt-admits-breaking-governments-rules-company/0 -
So you can kill and rape and torture thousands upon thousands of innocents with guns and bombs...but as soon as you use a nerve agent that kills tens, then that is the red line?Big_G_NorthWales said:
They are all evil acts but WMD have not been used as far as I am awaretyson said:
Where does this take us...what about Burma where thousands upon thousands have been murdered, raped and tortured by the notional government....in Israel where the Govt have shot at unarmed protestors....?Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not and never has been about regime change. It is about the rules based system where no one uses chemical weapons. France, the US , UK and Saudi (mentioned tonight as part of the coalition) and others will degrade the ability for Assad to make chemical weapons and the means of deliveryDanny565 said:After watching Newsnight, I'm even more confused about what the point of this military action would be.
Theresa May's former adviser was interviewed, who said they wouldn't be seeking to topple Assad. One of the Newsnight correspondents said that Russia would be informed of where the strike targets would be in advance (who would then presumably tell the Syrians and give time for evacuations). So what will actually be achieved??
If no action is taken now it shows to all crack pots they can use chemical weapons with no consequences.
Macron is leading this more than Trump at present
I fucking hate Assad with a visceral loathing.....but what does some tokenistic bombing do?
And then you have the likes of the seanT here whose hatred of all things Muslim object to any single Muslim fleeing to the West to escape this sheer hatred and violence. Trump...who doesn't want to accept a single refugee from Syria......
WMD are a red line for the UN and but for Russia and Bolivia voting down action this matter could have been resolved by the UN
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Part of Finchley rd is in the borough of Barnet, as all us false flag waving illuminati know!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thought your conspiracy theories were all based in Finchley.hunchman said:
And if you check Companies House records, you can follow the money and see where it traces back to. That wouldn't be somewhere in the borough of Barnet would it?!HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Mind you I do not normally comment as I tend to give you a miss, in a polite way0 -
Well the company was Mare Pond Properties:HYUFD said:
It says and I quote 'The Health Secretary, who has a personal fortune of more than £14 million, initially failed to declare his 50 per cent interest in the property firm to Companies House - a criminal offence punishable by a fine or up to two years in prison.DecrepitJohnL said:
It looks as if it was a technical mistake made by Hunt's accountant. TSE's betting slips should not be torn up just yet.DecrepitJohnL said:
And we know Theresa May wanted to move him from Health last time. Hunt's only chance is if (and I've not read the story) it is an offence too technical to be grasped by the voter on the Clapham omnibus, or sent up on HIGNFY.kle4 said:
Sounds like a very good reason to sack someone from the Cabinet, if so. I'm actually relatively positive toward the man, but unless there's a compelling reason he should not be (a non political reason) how can you not be sacked for that?HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Mr Hunt also failed to disclose his interest in the property firm on the Parliamentary Register of Members’ interests within the required 28 days.'
If he can blame all that on his accountant he will be a very lucky man indeed!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/04/12/exclusive-jeremy-hunt-admits-breaking-governments-rules-company/
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11859/jeremy_hunt/south_west_surrey#register
Have a look at their registered office address until the 8th March this year, when it got a bit hot to handle for poor old Jeremy..........0 -
I think Chlorine this time. Easier to handle than nerve agents and easier to make too.tyson said:
So you can kill and rape and torture thousands upon thousands of innocents with guns and bombs...but as soon as you use a nerve agent that kills tens, then that is the red line?Big_G_NorthWales said:
They are all evil acts but WMD have not been used as far as I am awaretyson said:
Where does this take us...what about Burma where thousands upon thousands have been murdered, raped and tortured by the notional government....in Israel where the Govt have shot at unarmed protestors....?Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not and never has been about regime change. It is about the rules based system where no one uses chemical weapons. France, the US , UK and Saudi (mentioned tonight as part of the coalition) and others will degrade the ability for Assad to make chemical weapons and the means of deliveryDanny565 said:After watching Newsnight, I'm even more confused about what the point of this military action would be.
Theresa May's former adviser was interviewed, who said they wouldn't be seeking to topple Assad. One of the Newsnight correspondents said that Russia would be informed of where the strike targets would be in advance (who would then presumably tell the Syrians and give time for evacuations). So what will actually be achieved??
If no action is taken now it shows to all crack pots they can use chemical weapons with no consequences.
Macron is leading this more than Trump at present
I fucking hate Assad with a visceral loathing.....but what does some tokenistic bombing do?
And then you have the likes of the seanT here whose hatred of all things Muslim object to any single Muslim fleeing to the West to escape this sheer hatred and violence. Trump...who doesn't want to accept a single refugee from Syria......
WMD are a red line for the UN and but for Russia and Bolivia voting down action this matter could have been resolved by the UN0 -
Conspiracy theories based on prima facie Companies House documents. You've got to be having a laugh aren't you?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thought your conspiracy theories were all based in Finchley.hunchman said:
And if you check Companies House records, you can follow the money and see where it traces back to. That wouldn't be somewhere in the borough of Barnet would it?!HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Mind you I do not normally comment as I tend to give you a miss, in a polite way0 -
No - just not interestedhunchman said:
Conspiracy theories based on prima facie Companies House documents. You've got to be having a laugh aren't you?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thought your conspiracy theories were all based in Finchley.hunchman said:
And if you check Companies House records, you can follow the money and see where it traces back to. That wouldn't be somewhere in the borough of Barnet would it?!HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Mind you I do not normally comment as I tend to give you a miss, in a polite way0 -
If it is a Finchley address the company was registered at that increases the likelihood May will have to sack him if he does not resign first given how marginal Barnet is in May's local electionshunchman said:
Well the company was Mare Pond Properties:HYUFD said:
It says and I quote 'The Health Secretary, who has a personal fortune of more than £14 million, initially failed to declare his 50 per cent interest in the property firm to Companies House - a criminal offence punishable by a fine or up to two years in prison.DecrepitJohnL said:
It looks as if it was a technical mistake made by Hunt's accountant. TSE's betting slips should not be torn up just yet.DecrepitJohnL said:
And we know Theresa May wanted to move him from Health last time. Hunt's only chance is if (and I've not read the story) it is an offence too technical to be grasped by the voter on the Clapham omnibus, or sent up on HIGNFY.kle4 said:
Sounds like a very good reason to sack someone from the Cabinet, if so. I'm actually relatively positive toward the man, but unless there's a compelling reason he should not be (a non political reason) how can you not be sacked for that?HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Mr Hunt also failed to disclose his interest in the property firm on the Parliamentary Register of Members’ interests within the required 28 days.'
If he can blame all that on his accountant he will be a very lucky man indeed!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/04/12/exclusive-jeremy-hunt-admits-breaking-governments-rules-company/
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11859/jeremy_hunt/south_west_surrey#register
Have a look at their registered office address until the 8th March this year, when it got a bit hot to handle for poor old Jeremy..........0 -
To summarise, some analyst from some consultancy thinks we will stay in the customs union, based on anonymous briefings. I fail to see why this is being reported as news, particularly as membership of ‘the’ customs union is simply not available after Brexit.TheScreamingEagles said:Theresa May’s officials could be lining up to keep the U.K. in the European customs union after Brexit, according to a new analysis that chimes with the views of parts of the British government.
Some of May’s officials think that quitting the customs union in order to win the power to strike free trade agreements with countries such as the U.S. or Australia is not as desirable as passionate Brexit supporters believe.
Such trade deals with third countries can take a long time to negotiate and end up mired in litigation, while measures short of formal FTAs can still deliver significant benefits, one person said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the discussions are private.
Added to this, the growing view in May’s office is that, after a narrow referendum result and a close general election, she has no mandate for an extreme Brexit, according to an official.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-11/may-s-brexit-red-line-on-customs-union-could-be-next-to-go
We can agree to a great deal of customs cooperation without promising to follow the EU in all things. May has tasked DEXEU and DIT with generating some genuinely novel solutions. If talks were going badly, I think we would know about it.0 -
Not registering your shareholding at the time of incorporation cannot be an an oversight. You have to supply that information on the form, I think.HYUFD said:
It says and I quote 'The Health Secretary, who has a personal fortune of more than £14 million, initially failed to declare his 50 per cent interest in the property firm to Companies House - a criminal offence punishable by a fine or up to two years in prison.DecrepitJohnL said:
It looks as if it was a technical mistake made by Hunt's accountant. TSE's betting slips should not be torn up just yet.DecrepitJohnL said:
And we know Theresa May wanted to move him from Health last time. Hunt's only chance is if (and I've not read the story) it is an offence too technical to be grasped by the voter on the Clapham omnibus, or sent up on HIGNFY.kle4 said:
Sounds like a very good reason to sack someone from the Cabinet, if so. I'm actually relatively positive toward the man, but unless there's a compelling reason he should not be (a non political reason) how can you not be sacked for that?HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Mr Hunt also failed to disclose his interest in the property firm on the Parliamentary Register of Members’ interests within the required 28 days.'
If he can blame all that on his accountant he will be a very lucky man indeed!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/04/12/exclusive-jeremy-hunt-admits-breaking-governments-rules-company/0 -
There is no appetite for ground troops, no real appetite to replace Assad by someone else either, as I said he will get a rap on the knuckles and a few missiles lobbed in his direction mainly for the benefit of the media and the news cycle will move ontyson said:
Exactly.....if Trump cared about Syrians he would accept far more migrants....all Trump cares about is Trump and the news...HYUFD said:
Trump will just lob a few missiles at Assad like Clinton did against Bin Laden and the news cycle moves on within a day or twoDanny565 said:After watching Newsnight, I'm even more confused about what the point of this military action would be.
Theresa May's former adviser was interviewed, who said they wouldn't be seeking to topple Assad. One of the Newsnight correspondents said that Russia would be informed of where the strike targets would be in advance (who would then presumably tell the Syrians and give time for evacuations). So what will actually be achieved??
Similarly May...she could say we could step up humanitarian efforts...instead let's just lob some bombs...Macron too.....
Our politicians are just a bunch of useless......I can't think of the words....0 -
I am not part of the London elite and have little or no knowledge of London BoroughsFoxy said:
Part of Finchley rd is in the borough of Barnet, as all us false flag waving illuminati know!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thought your conspiracy theories were all based in Finchley.hunchman said:
And if you check Companies House records, you can follow the money and see where it traces back to. That wouldn't be somewhere in the borough of Barnet would it?!HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Mind you I do not normally comment as I tend to give you a miss, in a polite way
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Governments love people like you who remain in blissful ignorance about what is really going on in the UK. On the other hand, the local MP hates me for getting under her skin with companies house documental evidence which she can't refute............Big_G_NorthWales said:
No - just not interestedhunchman said:
Conspiracy theories based on prima facie Companies House documents. You've got to be having a laugh aren't you?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thought your conspiracy theories were all based in Finchley.hunchman said:
And if you check Companies House records, you can follow the money and see where it traces back to. That wouldn't be somewhere in the borough of Barnet would it?!HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Mind you I do not normally comment as I tend to give you a miss, in a polite way0 -
We had bomber Harris who viewed civilian murder and terror as a legitimate act of war....Foxy said:
I think Chlorine this time. Easier to handle than nerve agents and easier to make too.tyson said:
So you can kill and rape and torture thousands upon thousands of innocents with guns and bombs...but as soon as you use a nerve agent that kills tens, then that is the red line?Big_G_NorthWales said:
They are all evil acts but WMD have not been used as far as I am awaretyson said:
Where does this take us...what about Burma where thousands upon thousands have been murdered, raped and tortured by the notional government....in Israel where the Govt have shot at unarmed protestors....?Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not and never has been about regime change. It is about the rules based system where no one uses chemical weapons. France, the US , UK and Saudi (mentioned tonight as part of the coalition) and others will degrade the ability for Assad to make chemical weapons and the means of deliveryDanny565 said:After watching Newsnight, I'm even more confused about what the point of this military action would be.
Theresa May's former adviser was interviewed, who said they wouldn't be seeking to topple Assad. One of the Newsnight correspondents said that Russia would be informed of where the strike targets would be in advance (who would then presumably tell the Syrians and give time for evacuations). So what will actually be achieved??
If no action is taken now it shows to all crack pots they can use chemical weapons with no consequences.
Macron is leading this more than Trump at present
I fucking hate Assad with a visceral loathing.....but what does some tokenistic bombing do?
And then you have the likes of the seanT here whose hatred of all things Muslim object to any single Muslim fleeing to the West to escape this sheer hatred and violence. Trump...who doesn't want to accept a single refugee from Syria......
WMD are a red line for the UN and but for Russia and Bolivia voting down action this matter could have been resolved by the UN
the Americans used Hiroshima and Nagasaki....and all the stuff in Vietnam against non military targets.......
What can you say....war is horrific....That is why those with wiser heads are somewhat cautioning May et al against getting involved in Syria....
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He certainly will have a lot of explaining to do over the next few daysFF43 said:
Not registering your shareholding at the time of incorporation cannot be an an oversight. You have to supply that information on the form, I think.HYUFD said:
It says and I quote 'The Health Secretary, who has a personal fortune of more than £14 million, initially failed to declare his 50 per cent interest in the property firm to Companies House - a criminal offence punishable by a fine or up to two years in prison.DecrepitJohnL said:
It looks as if it was a technical mistake made by Hunt's accountant. TSE's betting slips should not be torn up just yet.DecrepitJohnL said:
And we know Theresa May wanted to move him from Health last time. Hunt's only chance is if (and I've not read the story) it is an offence too technical to be grasped by the voter on the Clapham omnibus, or sent up on HIGNFY.kle4 said:
Sounds like a very good reason to sack someone from the Cabinet, if so. I'm actually relatively positive toward the man, but unless there's a compelling reason he should not be (a non political reason) how can you not be sacked for that?HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Mr Hunt also failed to disclose his interest in the property firm on the Parliamentary Register of Members’ interests within the required 28 days.'
If he can blame all that on his accountant he will be a very lucky man indeed!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/04/12/exclusive-jeremy-hunt-admits-breaking-governments-rules-company/0 -
Yes according to the UNtyson said:
So you can kill and rape and torture thousands upon thousands of innocents with guns and bombs...but as soon as you use a nerve agent that kills tens, then that is the red line?Big_G_NorthWales said:
They are all evil acts but WMD have not been used as far as I am awaretyson said:
Where does this take us...what about Burma where thousands upon thousands have been murdered, raped and tortured by the notional government....in Israel where the Govt have shot at unarmed protestors....?Big_G_NorthWales said:
It is not and never has been about regime change. It is about the rules based system where no one uses chemical weapons. France, the US , UK and Saudi (mentioned tonight as part of the coalition) and others will degrade the ability for Assad to make chemical weapons and the means of deliveryDanny565 said:After watching Newsnight, I'm even more confused about what the point of this military action would be.
Theresa May's former adviser was interviewed, who said they wouldn't be seeking to topple Assad. One of the Newsnight correspondents said that Russia would be informed of where the strike targets would be in advance (who would then presumably tell the Syrians and give time for evacuations). So what will actually be achieved??
If no action is taken now it shows to all crack pots they can use chemical weapons with no consequences.
Macron is leading this more than Trump at present
I fucking hate Assad with a visceral loathing.....but what does some tokenistic bombing do?
And then you have the likes of the seanT here whose hatred of all things Muslim object to any single Muslim fleeing to the West to escape this sheer hatred and violence. Trump...who doesn't want to accept a single refugee from Syria......
WMD are a red line for the UN and but for Russia and Bolivia voting down action this matter could have been resolved by the UN
The world s crazy
Have a good nights rest Tyson0 -
If you want to supercharge your home WiFi, can I recommend getting a proper dedicated Wireless Access Point: specifically, the Ubiquiti UniFi gear is staggeringly good. It's proper kit, none of this consumer stuff. It supports roaming between access points, so you can get five bars wherever you are in the house, and devices hand off transparently.Floater said:Anyway - in more important news.....
WiFi cards in new pc's replaced and all is well with the world. :-)
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Just like winding you uphunchman said:
Governments love people like you who remain in blissful ignorance about what is really going on in the UK. On the other hand, the local MP hates me for getting under her skin with companies house documental evidence which she can't refute............Big_G_NorthWales said:
No - just not interestedhunchman said:
Conspiracy theories based on prima facie Companies House documents. You've got to be having a laugh aren't you?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thought your conspiracy theories were all based in Finchley.hunchman said:
And if you check Companies House records, you can follow the money and see where it traces back to. That wouldn't be somewhere in the borough of Barnet would it?!HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Mind you I do not normally comment as I tend to give you a miss, in a polite way0 -
There appears to be a bit of a problem amongst the US Administration regarding upcoming strikes on Assad regime facilities.
In short, the President and others are looking for something bigger that the DoD are suggesting. It has been noted that Mattis is broadly against strikes at all for reasons of effectiveness and concern over events spiralling. His comments in the last 24 hours alone suggest he isn't on the same page as much of the rest of the Administration. It may also be reflected in the news out of Russia last night that Russia's military were talking to the US military and indeed suggestions today of very limited scope of strikes. The latter story could well have come from the DoD.0 -
Well the company was incorporated on the 19th September last year. The notification of Mr Hunt having significant control (between 25 and 50% of the shareholding) came on the 29th March, ie a fortnight ago. He declared it in the register of members interests on the 7th March......slightly longer than the 28 days allowed. Now if an ordinary member of the public did that!!!!!!FF43 said:
Not registering your shareholding at the time of incorporation cannot be an an oversight. You have to supply that information on the form, I think.HYUFD said:
It says and I quote 'The Health Secretary, who has a personal fortune of more than £14 million, initially failed to declare his 50 per cent interest in the property firm to Companies House - a criminal offence punishable by a fine or up to two years in prison.DecrepitJohnL said:
It looks as if it was a technical mistake made by Hunt's accountant. TSE's betting slips should not be torn up just yet.DecrepitJohnL said:
And we know Theresa May wanted to move him from Health last time. Hunt's only chance is if (and I've not read the story) it is an offence too technical to be grasped by the voter on the Clapham omnibus, or sent up on HIGNFY.kle4 said:
Sounds like a very good reason to sack someone from the Cabinet, if so. I'm actually relatively positive toward the man, but unless there's a compelling reason he should not be (a non political reason) how can you not be sacked for that?HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Mr Hunt also failed to disclose his interest in the property firm on the Parliamentary Register of Members’ interests within the required 28 days.'
If he can blame all that on his accountant he will be a very lucky man indeed!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/04/12/exclusive-jeremy-hunt-admits-breaking-governments-rules-company/0 -
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I'm rather relieved the EU has done a proper investigation of this. It makes a pleasant change.Floater said:0 -
Well I like winding my MP up, and I know its hurting her given her reactions........but she can't run and hide, just like Jeremy Hunt can't run and hide, because there is the slime trail there if you care to investigate it using Companies House records.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Just like winding you uphunchman said:
Governments love people like you who remain in blissful ignorance about what is really going on in the UK. On the other hand, the local MP hates me for getting under her skin with companies house documental evidence which she can't refute............Big_G_NorthWales said:
No - just not interestedhunchman said:
Conspiracy theories based on prima facie Companies House documents. You've got to be having a laugh aren't you?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thought your conspiracy theories were all based in Finchley.hunchman said:
And if you check Companies House records, you can follow the money and see where it traces back to. That wouldn't be somewhere in the borough of Barnet would it?!HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Mind you I do not normally comment as I tend to give you a miss, in a polite way0 -
No - I am happy to leave it to the telegraph and his ambitions seem to be over tonighthunchman said:
Well I like winding my MP up, and I know its hurting her given her reactions........but she can't run and hide, just like Jeremy Hunt can't run and hide, because there is the slime trail there if you care to investigate it using Companies House records.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Just like winding you uphunchman said:
Governments love people like you who remain in blissful ignorance about what is really going on in the UK. On the other hand, the local MP hates me for getting under her skin with companies house documental evidence which she can't refute............Big_G_NorthWales said:
No - just not interestedhunchman said:
Conspiracy theories based on prima facie Companies House documents. You've got to be having a laugh aren't you?!Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thought your conspiracy theories were all based in Finchley.hunchman said:
And if you check Companies House records, you can follow the money and see where it traces back to. That wouldn't be somewhere in the borough of Barnet would it?!HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Mind you I do not normally comment as I tend to give you a miss, in a polite way0 -
Check Companies House records! Some people amaze me on here - on the one hand they want to keep up with the latest political gossip, including the 7/8ths of the iceberg under the surface that is hidden from public view, but then they're too bone idle to go to where the source of that information is - companies house documents, and by following the money work out what is really going on, and not the spin that politicians want us to believe.HYUFD said:
The properties were in Southampton apparently, where the trail leads who knowshunchman said:
And if you check Companies House records, you can follow the money and see where it traces back to. That wouldn't be somewhere in the borough of Barnet would it?!HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Rant over. Good night all!0 -
rcs1000 said:
If you want to supercharge your home WiFi, can I recommend getting a proper dedicated Wireless Access Point: specifically, the Ubiquiti UniFi gear is staggeringly good. It's proper kit, none of this consumer stuff. It supports roaming between access points, so you can get five bars wherever you are in the house, and devices hand off transparently.Floater said:Anyway - in more important news.....
WiFi cards in new pc's replaced and all is well with the world. :-)
My friend showed me my his connected house...lights, TV, thermostats, internet between devices, kitchen appliances...everything on an App, everything wired and on camera....
I mean FFS...god gave us arms and legs to get up and do stuff right?
So I for one do not want to supercharge my house, and am more than happy driving a knackered,. battered 12 year old Megane when need be....and like shopping everyday for the groceries by walking and carrying bags..... I'm one of the few left that carries a full bag playing golf doing 18.....
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So the "transition" period comes to a juddering halt in December 2020. Then the lorries get stopped in Dover, goods have to be checked, VAT paid etc. Supermarket shelves run empty. Exports get slowed down the other way. Farmers can no longer export their stuff which rots on the M20. Even if the government in a panic allows inbound goods to come in unchecked, it doesn't help the outbound. The paperwork still needs to be sorted somehow.Then shortly after, the election.RoyalBlue said:
To summarise, some analyst from some consultancy thinks we will stay in the customs union, based on anonymous briefings. I fail to see why this is being reported as news, particularly as membership of ‘the’ customs union is simply not available after Brexit.TheScreamingEagles said:Theresa May’s officials could be lining up to keep the U.K. in the European customs union after Brexit, according to a new analysis that chimes with the views of parts of the British government.
Some of May’s officials think that quitting the customs union in order to win the power to strike free trade agreements with countries such as the U.S. or Australia is not as desirable as passionate Brexit supporters believe.
Such trade deals with third countries can take a long time to negotiate and end up mired in litigation, while measures short of formal FTAs can still deliver significant benefits, one person said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the discussions are private.
Added to this, the growing view in May’s office is that, after a narrow referendum result and a close general election, she has no mandate for an extreme Brexit, according to an official.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-11/may-s-brexit-red-line-on-customs-union-could-be-next-to-go
We can agree to a great deal of customs cooperation without promising to follow the EU in all things. May has tasked DEXEU and DIT with generating some genuinely novel solutions. If talks were going badly, I think we would know about it.
This will be "Winter of Discontent" multiplied.
Alternatively Theresa May, if it still is she as PM, can tell Brexiteers, "Sod you, we're staying in the Customs Union"
PS there's also the insurrection in Ireland adding to the general chaos.0 -
hunchman said:
Well I'm sure the Top Doctors and many NHS staff won't be losing any sleep tonight over his imminent demise.Big_G_NorthWales said:
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Over in Washington Mr Brexit has changed his tune on the TPP.FF43 said:PS there's also the insurrection in Ireland adding to the general chaos.
https://twitter.com/esaagar/status/9844679050719928320 -
It's nuts. The whole point of TPP was to project the US interest into Eastern Asia.williamglenn said:
Over in Washington Mr Brexit has changed his tune on the TPP.FF43 said:PS there's also the insurrection in Ireland adding to the general chaos.
https://twitter.com/esaagar/status/9844679050719928320 -
I don't think you understand how company formation works, nor how unbelievably incompetent a villain you would have to be to leave evidence of anything incriminating on a Companies House form of any kind.hunchman said:
Check Companies House records! Some people amaze me on here - on the one hand they want to keep up with the latest political gossip, including the 7/8ths of the iceberg under the surface that is hidden from public view, but then they're too bone idle to go to where the source of that information is - companies house documents, and by following the money work out what is really going on, and not the spin that politicians want us to believe.HYUFD said:
The properties were in Southampton apparently, where the trail leads who knowshunchman said:
And if you check Companies House records, you can follow the money and see where it traces back to. That wouldn't be somewhere in the borough of Barnet would it?!HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:
Rant over. Good night all!0 -
i had 5 bars and .... less than 1 meg download speed -- that's with BT infinity where I was getting over 40mbps on last pcrcs1000 said:
If you want to supercharge your home WiFi, can I recommend getting a proper dedicated Wireless Access Point: specifically, the Ubiquiti UniFi gear is staggeringly good. It's proper kit, none of this consumer stuff. It supports roaming between access points, so you can get five bars wherever you are in the house, and devices hand off transparently.Floater said:Anyway - in more important news.....
WiFi cards in new pc's replaced and all is well with the world. :-)0 -
This is even more nuts.FF43 said:
It's nuts. The whole point of TPP was to project the US interest into Eastern Asia.williamglenn said:
Over in Washington Mr Brexit has changed his tune on the TPP.FF43 said:PS there's also the insurrection in Ireland adding to the general chaos.
https://twitter.com/esaagar/status/984467905071992832
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Philomena Cunk: The Labour YearsFrancisUrquhart said:
These people are just thick, it's that simple.Floater said:
read that shit again and tell me that is a serious mp - and there are too many examples of utter crap in Labour right now.kle4 said:
Well that depends what you mean. They are seriously in contention for winning the next election after all.Floater said:
Hard to believe they were once a serious partyTheScreamingEagles said:
I can disagree with the likes of Eddie spheroid or James purnell at the best way forward, but they ain't thick.0 -
"Mark Zuckerberg Refuses to Admit How Facebook Works
The CEO and the social network appear uncomfortable with the bedrock of its business."
https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2018-04-12/mark-zuckerberg-refuses-to-admit-how-facebook-works0 -
Cabinet Office - no breach of ministerial code; matter considered closed.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43748513
Would a private individual who was an incompetent pill like this be treated quite so leniently ?
I actually hope so, as this is recent anti money laundering legislation; there seems to be no intent to deceive, and no benefit derived. It does not speak well of Hunt’s diligence, though, and nor does the long delay in making a declaration in the register of members’ interests.0 -
Not a good morning for the BBC as their Breakfast presenters go through the front pages!0
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Bloody hell, Hunt - stop ruining my bets.0
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I'm really amazed by that by-election result in Chichester. It isn't actually in the city at all, it's a rural area which you'd expect to be Conservative under any conceivable political circumstances. I can't even work out how Labour managed to find enough people to nominate their candidate. Just because nobody is talking about it, it doesn't mean that a Brexit backlash isn't developing.
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Finchley Road is a hotbed of villainyhunchman said:
And if you check Companies House records, you can follow the money and see where it traces back to. That wouldn't be somewhere in the borough of Barnet would it?!HYUFD said:
Apparently Hunt broke anti money laundering legislation according to the TelegraphTheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Almost all conspiracy theories start with a misunderstanding. This company formation one is a particularly hilarious example of that.Ishmael_Z said:
I don't think you understand how company formation works, nor how unbelievably incompetent a villain you would have to be to leave evidence of anything incriminating on a Companies House form of any kind.0 -
Yes; another good night for the LD’s.Recidivist said:I'm really amazed by that by-election result in Chichester. It isn't actually in the city at all, it's a rural area which you'd expect to be Conservative under any conceivable political circumstances. I can't even work out how Labour managed to find enough people to nominate their candidate. Just because nobody is talking about it, it doesn't mean that a Brexit backlash isn't developing.
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Absolutely, and a good network infrastructure is a platform which enables a lot of other technology to be more effective. Business-class hardware is now not much more expensive than a lot of the consumer-grade APs. I usually use the Draytek kit which also works very well, as you say you get a full signal everywhere and seamless handoffs between APs.rcs1000 said:
If you want to supercharge your home WiFi, can I recommend getting a proper dedicated Wireless Access Point: specifically, the Ubiquiti UniFi gear is staggeringly good. It's proper kit, none of this consumer stuff. It supports roaming between access points, so you can get five bars wherever you are in the house, and devices hand off transparently.Floater said:Anyway - in more important news.....
WiFi cards in new pc's replaced and all is well with the world. :-)0 -
And just because the Lib Dems have won another council by-election doesn’t mean it has anything to do with Brexit.Recidivist said:I'm really amazed by that by-election result in Chichester. It isn't actually in the city at all, it's a rural area which you'd expect to be Conservative under any conceivable political circumstances. I can't even work out how Labour managed to find enough people to nominate their candidate. Just because nobody is talking about it, it doesn't mean that a Brexit backlash isn't developing.
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In my view, the worst thing about the transition is having to read this sort of nonsense for another 21 months.FF43 said:
So the "transition" period comes to a juddering halt in December 2020. Then the lorries get stopped in Dover, goods have to be checked, VAT paid etc. Supermarket shelves run empty. Exports get slowed down the other way. Farmers can no longer export their stuff which rots on the M20. Even if the government in a panic allows inbound goods to come in unchecked, it doesn't help the outbound. The paperwork still needs to be sorted somehow.Then shortly after, the election.RoyalBlue said:
To summarise, some analyst from some consultancy thinks we will stay in the customs union, based on anonymous briefings. I fail to see why this is being reported as news, particularly as membership of ‘the’ customs union is simply not available after Brexit.TheScreamingEagles said:Theresa May’s officials could be lining up to keep the U.K. in the European customs union after Brexit, according to a new analysis that chimes with the views of parts of the British government.
Some of May’s officials think that quitting the customs union in order to win the power to strike free trade agreements with countries such as the U.S. or Australia is not as desirable as passionate Brexit supporters believe.
Such trade deals with third countries can take a long time to negotiate and end up mired in litigation, while measures short of formal FTAs can still deliver significant benefits, one person said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the discussions are private.
Added to this, the growing view in May’s office is that, after a narrow referendum result and a close general election, she has no mandate for an extreme Brexit, according to an official.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-11/may-s-brexit-red-line-on-customs-union-could-be-next-to-go
We can agree to a great deal of customs cooperation without promising to follow the EU in all things. May has tasked DEXEU and DIT with generating some genuinely novel solutions. If talks were going badly, I think we would know about it.
This will be "Winter of Discontent" multiplied.
Alternatively Theresa May, if it still is she as PM, can tell Brexiteers, "Sod you, we're staying in the Customs Union"
PS there's also the insurrection in Ireland adding to the general chaos.0 -
Well only the people who voted know that. But if we can't speculate there's not much point to this forum.Casino_Royale said:
And just because the Lib Dems have won another council by-election doesn’t mean it has anything to do with Brexit.Recidivist said:I'm really amazed by that by-election result in Chichester. It isn't actually in the city at all, it's a rural area which you'd expect to be Conservative under any conceivable political circumstances. I can't even work out how Labour managed to find enough people to nominate their candidate. Just because nobody is talking about it, it doesn't mean that a Brexit backlash isn't developing.
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The victorious candidate was already the County Councillor.Casino_Royale said:
And just because the Lib Dems have won another council by-election doesn’t mean it has anything to do with Brexit.Recidivist said:I'm really amazed by that by-election result in Chichester. It isn't actually in the city at all, it's a rural area which you'd expect to be Conservative under any conceivable political circumstances. I can't even work out how Labour managed to find enough people to nominate their candidate. Just because nobody is talking about it, it doesn't mean that a Brexit backlash isn't developing.
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I attended a parish council meeting last night and local councillor for Chichester BC said he had never known a Government to be so unpopular as this. He predicted the Rogate by-election result would be "interesting."Recidivist said:I'm really amazed by that by-election result in Chichester. It isn't actually in the city at all, it's a rural area which you'd expect to be Conservative under any conceivable political circumstances. I can't even work out how Labour managed to find enough people to nominate their candidate. Just because nobody is talking about it, it doesn't mean that a Brexit backlash isn't developing.
Yet we hear on this board that May is admired for getting on with the job and the Conservatives are still leading the polls.
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You'd rather get it over with quickly and do a permanent deal to stay in the single market and customs union?Casino_Royale said:
In my view, the worst thing about the transition is having to read this sort of nonsense for another 21 months.FF43 said:
So the "transition" period comes to a juddering halt in December 2020. Then the lorries get stopped in Dover, goods have to be checked, VAT paid etc. Supermarket shelves run empty. Exports get slowed down the other way. Farmers can no longer export their stuff which rots on the M20. Even if the government in a panic allows inbound goods to come in unchecked, it doesn't help the outbound. The paperwork still needs to be sorted somehow.Then shortly after, the election.RoyalBlue said:
To summarise, some analyst from some consultancy thinks we will stay in the customs union, based on anonymous briefings. I fail to see why this is being reported as news, particularly as membership of ‘the’ customs union is simply not available after Brexit.TheScreamingEagles said:Theresa May’s officials could be lining up to keep the U.K. in the European customs union after Brexit, according to a new analysis that chimes with the views of parts of the British government.
Some of May’s officials think that quitting the customs union in order to win the power to strike free trade agreements with countries such as the U.S. or Australia is not as desirable as passionate Brexit supporters believe.
Such trade deals with third countries can take a long time to negotiate and end up mired in litigation, while measures short of formal FTAs can still deliver significant benefits, one person said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the discussions are private.
Added to this, the growing view in May’s office is that, after a narrow referendum result and a close general election, she has no mandate for an extreme Brexit, according to an official.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-11/may-s-brexit-red-line-on-customs-union-could-be-next-to-go
We can agree to a great deal of customs cooperation without promising to follow the EU in all things. May has tasked DEXEU and DIT with generating some genuinely novel solutions. If talks were going badly, I think we would know about it.
This will be "Winter of Discontent" multiplied.
Alternatively Theresa May, if it still is she as PM, can tell Brexiteers, "Sod you, we're staying in the Customs Union"
PS there's also the insurrection in Ireland adding to the general chaos.0 -
I think the general point is to challenge each other on analysis so that we make the most money possible betting on politics.Recidivist said:
Well only the people who voted know that. But if we can't speculate there's not much point to this forum.Casino_Royale said:
And just because the Lib Dems have won another council by-election doesn’t mean it has anything to do with Brexit.Recidivist said:I'm really amazed by that by-election result in Chichester. It isn't actually in the city at all, it's a rural area which you'd expect to be Conservative under any conceivable political circumstances. I can't even work out how Labour managed to find enough people to nominate their candidate. Just because nobody is talking about it, it doesn't mean that a Brexit backlash isn't developing.
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Rogate isn't far from the Hampshire border, nearer to Petersfield than Chichester.OldKingCole said:
Yes; another good night for the LD’s.Recidivist said:I'm really amazed by that by-election result in Chichester. It isn't actually in the city at all, it's a rural area which you'd expect to be Conservative under any conceivable political circumstances. I can't even work out how Labour managed to find enough people to nominate their candidate. Just because nobody is talking about it, it doesn't mean that a Brexit backlash isn't developing.
Yes 55.8% from nowhere is a good result for the LibDems.
@britainelects
Rogate (Chichester) result:
LDEM: 55.8% (+55.8)
CON: 40.1% (-27.3)
LAB: 2.6% (+2.6)
GRN: 1.5% (-18.2)
LDem GAIN from Con.
No UKIP (-12.9) as prev.
but the Northamptonshire one wasn't bad either
Middleton Cheney (South Northamptonshire) result:
CON: 42.1% (-21.6)
LDEM: 34.1% (+34.1)
LAB: 19.7% (+19.7)
GRN: 4.1% (+4.1)
and the third result was good for Labour. Not a great night for the Tories.0 -
The views of the local councillor are not supported by polling or by-election results in general. That’s not to say that most of the population are wildly enthusiastic about Mrs May’s government.SandraMc said:
I attended a parish council meeting last night and local councillor for Chichester BC said he had never known a Government to be so unpopular as this. He predicted the Rogate by-election result would be "interesting."Recidivist said:I'm really amazed by that by-election result in Chichester. It isn't actually in the city at all, it's a rural area which you'd expect to be Conservative under any conceivable political circumstances. I can't even work out how Labour managed to find enough people to nominate their candidate. Just because nobody is talking about it, it doesn't mean that a Brexit backlash isn't developing.
Yet we hear on this board that May is admired for getting on with the job and the Conservatives are still leading the polls.0 -
Good morning, everyone.
F1: first practice was normal rather than thunderstorm-ridden, so the enormo-odds/tiny stakes bets didn't come off. Still, happens.
Second practice is underway. If first practice times are indicative of qualifying pace, it's very close behind Hamilton.0 -
Mercedes and Ferrari very close together, everyone else a long way behind.Morris_Dancer said:Good morning, everyone.
F1: first practice was normal rather than thunderstorm-ridden, so the enormo-odds/tiny stakes bets didn't come off. Still, happens.
Second practice is underway. If first practice times are indicative of qualifying pace, it's very close behind Hamilton.0 -
I see you’ve taken your lead from Michel Barnier and have now entered the “bargaining” phase.williamglenn said:
You'd rather get it over with quickly and do a permanent deal to stay in the single market and customs union?Casino_Royale said:
In my view, the worst thing about the transition is having to read this sort of nonsense for another 21 months.FF43 said:
So the "transition" period comes to a juddering halt in December 2020. Then the lorries get stopped in Dover, goods have to be checked, VAT paid etc. Supermarket shelves run empty. Exports get slowed down the other way. Farmers can no longer export their stuff which rots on the M20. Even if the government in a panic allows inbound goods to come in unchecked, it doesn't help the outbound. The paperwork still needs to be sorted somehow.Then shortly after, the election.RoyalBlue said:
To summarise, some analyst from some consultancy thinks we will stay in the customs union, based on anonymous briefings. I fail to see why this is being reported as news, particularly as membership of ‘the’ customs union is simply not available after Brexit.TheScreamingEagles said:Theresa May’s officials could be lining up to keep the U.K. in the European customs union after Brexit, according to a new analysis that chimes with the views of parts of the British government.
Some of May’s officials think that quitting the customs union in order to win the power to strike free trade agreements with countries such as the U.S. or Australia is not as desirable as passionate Brexit supporters believe.
Such trade deals with third countries can take a long time to negotiate and end up mired in litigation, while measures short of formal FTAs can still deliver significant benefits, one person said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the discussions are private.
Added to this, the growing view in May’s office is that, after a narrow referendum result and a close general election, she has no mandate for an extreme Brexit, according to an official.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-11/may-s-brexit-red-line-on-customs-union-could-be-next-to-go
We can agree to a great deal of customs cooperation without promising to follow the EU in all things. May has tasked DEXEU and DIT with generating some genuinely novel solutions. If talks were going badly, I think we would know about it.
This will be "Winter of Discontent" multiplied.
Alternatively Theresa May, if it still is she as PM, can tell Brexiteers, "Sod you, we're staying in the Customs Union"
PS there's also the insurrection in Ireland adding to the general chaos.
Only 11 months till you lose that £1,000.0 -
It probably means that people already inclined to agree with him are particularly vociferous on the doorstep about it.RoyalBlue said:
The views of the local councillor are not supported by polling or by-election results in general. That’s not to say that most of the population are wildly enthusiastic about Mrs May’s government.SandraMc said:
I attended a parish council meeting last night and local councillor for Chichester BC said he had never known a Government to be so unpopular as this. He predicted the Rogate by-election result would be "interesting."Recidivist said:I'm really amazed by that by-election result in Chichester. It isn't actually in the city at all, it's a rural area which you'd expect to be Conservative under any conceivable political circumstances. I can't even work out how Labour managed to find enough people to nominate their candidate. Just because nobody is talking about it, it doesn't mean that a Brexit backlash isn't developing.
Yet we hear on this board that May is admired for getting on with the job and the Conservatives are still leading the polls.0
