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It’s just over a year’s time we should be seeing the formal declarations of those entering the run for president in the 2020 White House race and over the ensuing 12 months we are going to hear a lot of speculation about who might put their hats into the ring.
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Called it.0
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E pluribus unum.0
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Mike have you ever had a long odds winner in the Presidential markets ?0
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But you are again conflating all the issues of the past few weeks into one.TOPPING said:
You said that right wing newspapers have conflated this issue (you mention "right wing newspapers" three times in your first paragraph) with their choice of good or bad Jewish groups as though it is only the RWNs who have done so.TheJezziah said:
So now you just have to find the quote of me saying this is no anti semitism in the Labour party... I have pointed out many times this isn't true.TOPPING said:
Yet again you are wilfully not understanding the context. Labour MPs say there is a problem with anti-semitism within the Labour Party, Momentum tells us there is an anti-semitism problem within the Labour Party. And The Jezziah (THE Jezziah, that is) tells us there is an anti-semitism problem within the Labour Party.TheJezziah said:95% and many on here say a lot of things about Corbyn. (1)
Only to your mind. (2)
So what indeed, quite frankly who cares what regularly xenophobic right wing newspapers judge to be the good or bad Jewish groups, as far as I am concerned, they are the bad papers. Yes it must be annoying for the right wing newspapers that despite a campaign lasting years now all they have done reinforced his position. Thank god, I've been waiting all my life for a potential PM that wasn't enslaved to our crazy right wing newspapers, it seems to drive them ballistic, good, they have been holding our democracy back for years. The best they can hope for is holding Labour back until Corbyn's successor, who will be left wing.
So - three impeccable may I be so bold as to say non-right wing sources tell us there is an anti-semitism problem within the Labour Party. And in this context, Jeremy Corbyn wilfully/idiotically/cluelessly exacerbates the situation.
And you? The Jezziah of PB? It is all the fault of the right wing press.
One of us is not getting it.
One of us is making stuff up.
As we have already discussed with the emboldening slider that everything please the anti-semites on one side or the other, the excuse you can back just your side using it only really applies if you claim one group is more important than the other rather than decisions being based on doing the right thing.
Ignoring the fact that left wing entities (Lab MPs, Mo, JC) have said there is anti-semitism and IT IS IN THIS CONTEXT that Jeremy Corbyn, by further continuing to embolden anti-semites, either made an error of judgement, or didn't.
The fact that a small number of Labour members post antisemitic stuff and deny the Holocaust is a problem. The fact those members aren't chucked out is a problem. I would say Corbyn's comments about that mural are a problem. The fact he had Passover dinner with Jewish people is not a problem, and it's laughable to claim it is.0 -
The Democratic base is not going to pick someone even more centrist than Clinton as Hickenlooper is, if he runs it will be on a third party ticket with Kasich.
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But lost the nomination.HYUFD said:The Democratic base is not going to pick someone even more centrist than Clinton as Hickenlooper is, if he runs it will be on a third party ticket with Kasich.
Sanders let us not forget won New Hampshire in the 2016 primaries and lost Iowa by less than 1%0 -
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I won't reply in too much detail as I need to go to the gym and hit something (not a bag with @TheJezziah's face on it!!Danny565 said:But you are again conflating all the issues of the past few weeks into one.
The fact that a small number of Labour members post antisemitic stuff and deny the Holocaust is a problem. The fact those members aren't chucked out is a problem. I would say Corbyn's comments about that mural are a problem. The fact he had Passover dinner with Jewish people is not a problem, and it's laughable to claim it is.
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But his trip to Jewdas flew in the face of and arguably exacerbated all those issues of the past few weeks. As ever, @RochdalePioneers nailed it. Why not just avoid any potential issue or offence or exacerbation and not go?0 -
Nice longshot. I expect you'll make money on him in time, one way or another.
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To be fair Mike mentions that in his piece. But Ladbrokes have Hickenlooper at 40/1 for the Democratic nomination, not 16/1. 40/1 sounds more like it for the reasons you give.HYUFD said:The Democratic base is not going to pick someone even more centrist than Clinton as Hickenlooper is, if he runs it will be on a third party ticket with Kasich.
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If he doesn't run, can we call him Hicken the Chicken?0
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I still like the idea of Biden-Kennedy double ticket, with Biden promising one term only.
BF Exchange doesn't even feature Kennedy III. Only Caroline.0 -
You sound like David Cameron’s Mum.AlastairMeeks said:Nice longshot. I expect you'll make money on him in time, one way or another.
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And by sticking in the 2016 race for far too long enabled Trump to win the Presidency.TheScreamingEagles said:
But lost the nomination.HYUFD said:The Democratic base is not going to pick someone even more centrist than Clinton as Hickenlooper is, if he runs it will be on a third party ticket with Kasich.
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I don't see how it exacerbates it, unless one is being very disingenuous. "Jewdas" are a group which, however "far left" they may be, and however critical of Israel they may be, have a history of fighting antisemitism - they called for Ken Livingstone's expulsion, for example. I don't really see why right-wing commentators feel they have the right to designate which Jews are legitimate to meet and which aren't.TOPPING said:fpt
I won't reply in too much detail as I need to go to the gym and hit something (not a bag with @TheJezziah's face on it!!Danny565 said:But you are again conflating all the issues of the past few weeks into one.
The fact that a small number of Labour members post antisemitic stuff and deny the Holocaust is a problem. The fact those members aren't chucked out is a problem. I would say Corbyn's comments about that mural are a problem. The fact he had Passover dinner with Jewish people is not a problem, and it's laughable to claim it is. ).
But his trip to Jewdas flew in the face of and arguably exacerbated all those issues of the past few weeks. As ever, @RochdalePioneers nailed it. Why not just avoid any potential issue or offence or exacerbation and not go?0 -
Had he won Iowa he would have won the nomination most likely.TheScreamingEagles said:
But lost the nomination.HYUFD said:The Democratic base is not going to pick someone even more centrist than Clinton as Hickenlooper is, if he runs it will be on a third party ticket with Kasich.
Sanders let us not forget won New Hampshire in the 2016 primaries and lost Iowa by less than 1%
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Funny you should say that but modesty forbids me from highlighting what became my best known bet.TheScreamingEagles said:Mike have you ever had a long odds winner in the Presidential markets ?
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Hillary Clinton sticking in the 2016 race for far too long was what enabled Trump. Though he'd have beaten Sanders too, imo. Biden would have won.MikeSmithson said:
And by sticking in the 2016 race for far too long enabled Trump to win the Presidency.TheScreamingEagles said:
But lost the nomination.HYUFD said:The Democratic base is not going to pick someone even more centrist than Clinton as Hickenlooper is, if he runs it will be on a third party ticket with Kasich.
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He is a better bet for the general election than the nomination but his problems getting the latter will mean he probably does not get to the former unless on a third party ticketTissue_Price said:
To be fair Mike mentions that in his piece. But Ladbrokes have Hickenlooper at 40/1 for the Democratic nomination, not 16/1. 40/1 sounds more like it for the reasons you give.HYUFD said:The Democratic base is not going to pick someone even more centrist than Clinton as Hickenlooper is, if he runs it will be on a third party ticket with Kasich.
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Hmm. I get the feeling that this latest 'Jewdas' revelation has only served to muddy the waters. The gripe now seems to be not that Jezza is anti-semitic but that he's not as slavishly pro-Israel/IDF as someone one like Guido would like. While this may still play well amongst Guido's fellow travellers, for Jezza's more mainstream critics it may only blunt their attacks.0
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I'm working on a SnookerLooper angle....SandyRentool said:If he doesn't run, can we call him Hicken the Chicken?
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I have problems with flyaway collars, so I sympathise. The comb is less of a pressing need for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
You sound like David Cameron’s Mum.AlastairMeeks said:Nice longshot. I expect you'll make money on him in time, one way or another.
He needs to sort out the flyaway collar and get an acquaintanceship with a comb.0 -
Agree on Biden. He would have taken the fight to Trump in a way HRC didn't.Tissue_Price said:
Hillary Clinton sticking in the 2016 race for far too long was what enabled Trump. Though he'd have beaten Sanders too, imo. Biden would have won.MikeSmithson said:
And by sticking in the 2016 race for far too long enabled Trump to win the Presidency.TheScreamingEagles said:
But lost the nomination.HYUFD said:The Democratic base is not going to pick someone even more centrist than Clinton as Hickenlooper is, if he runs it will be on a third party ticket with Kasich.
Sanders let us not forget won New Hampshire in the 2016 primaries and lost Iowa by less than 1%
However, I think she probably could have won if she had listened to her husband's pleas to get out into the rust belt and not the data wiz kids who said he was out of date.0 -
No, had Sanders been the nominee he may well have won the rustbelt states like Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania as well as border state Iowa which Hillary lost and they would have been enough for him to win the presidency even if he lost every southern state bar VirginiaMikeSmithson said:
And by sticking in the 2016 race for far too long enabled Trump to win the Presidency.TheScreamingEagles said:
But lost the nomination.HYUFD said:The Democratic base is not going to pick someone even more centrist than Clinton as Hickenlooper is, if he runs it will be on a third party ticket with Kasich.
Sanders let us not forget won New Hampshire in the 2016 primaries and lost Iowa by less than 1%0 -
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Democrats to me feel very reminiscent of Labour in the 2010-15 period. They seem entirely focussed on screaming about what's wrong with the incumbents, rather than offering any positive alternative of their own. And to cap it off, the issue on which they're attacking Trump most is one which I'd imagine is rather esoteric to most Americans (the Russia scandal is the equivalent of the phone-hacking/Murdoch scandal in the Labour 2010-15 analogy).
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I take an instant dislike to people who wear dental floss thin ties.AlastairMeeks said:
I have problems with flyaway collars, so I sympathise. The comb is less of a pressing need for me.TheScreamingEagles said:
You sound like David Cameron’s Mum.AlastairMeeks said:Nice longshot. I expect you'll make money on him in time, one way or another.
He needs to sort out the flyaway collar and get an acquaintanceship with a comb.0 -
Many, many moons ago, I made a tidy sum on an unknown from Arkansa called Bill.MikeSmithson said:
Funny you should say that but modesty forbids me from highlighting what became my best known bet.TheScreamingEagles said:Mike have you ever had a long odds winner in the Presidential markets ?
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Well if Corbyn has his own song:MikeSmithson said:
Funny you should say that but modesty forbids me from highlighting what became my best known bet.TheScreamingEagles said:Mike have you ever had a long odds winner in the Presidential markets ?
*singing* Ohhhhh Bama Smithson.......0 -
Kennedy III has to run for Senate first, which he may do in 2020, 2024 is an election too early for him to run for POTUSrottenborough said:I still like the idea of Biden-Kennedy double ticket, with Biden promising one term only.
BF Exchange doesn't even feature Kennedy III. Only Caroline.0 -
I’m also President of The Balthus Knot Appreciation Society.0
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Though perhaps not quite so intimately as the incumbent.AlastairMeeks said:Nice longshot. I expect you'll make money on him in time, one way or another.
He needs to sort out the flyaway collar and get an acquaintanceship with a comb.
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Tremendous Shippers' anecdote about the Prince Over the Water:
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If the Denocrats want their own Corbyn style populism then Bernie Sanders is surely their man?Danny565 said:On topic:-
Democrats to me feel very reminiscent of Labour in the 2010-15 period. They seem entirely focussed on screaming about what's wrong with the incumbents, rather than offering any positive alternative of their own. And to cap it off, the issue on which they're attacking Trump most is one which I'd imagine is rather esoteric to most Americans (the Russia scandal is the equivalent of the phone-hacking/Murdoch scandal in the Labour 2010-15 analogy).0 -
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Hopefully the French people back him over the unions.MarqueeMark said:The Macron
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Worried that bringing back David Miliband is basically becoming the centrist equivalent of bringing back grammar schools0 -
It's Cargo Cult behaviour (both examples)Danny565 said:
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Worried that bringing back David Miliband is basically becoming the centrist equivalent of bringing back grammar schools0 -
.. and the Labour party passing off this meeting as "in a personal capacity"is complete BULLSHINE.Scott_P said:0 -
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This is true of the Tories too. They're telling us how dreadful a Labour government would be, without the necessary magic ingredient - how wonderful life will be if we opt for another five years of Mrs May and her unlovely cabinet.Danny565 said:On topic:-
Democrats to me feel very reminiscent of Labour in the 2010-15 period. They seem entirely focussed on screaming about what's wrong with the incumbents, rather than offering any positive alternative of their own. And to cap it off, the issue on which they're attacking Trump most is one which I'd imagine is rather esoteric to most Americans (the Russia scandal is the equivalent of the phone-hacking/Murdoch scandal in the Labour 2010-15 analogy).0 -
Or Betamax.Danny565 said:
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Worried that bringing back David Miliband is basically becoming the centrist equivalent of bringing back grammar schools0 -
According to the Sussex Friends of Israel Facebook group this is the programme from last night's Jewdas meeting.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l3kr_7IFCjzSZ7MHclK1WIplUvbvkASp/view
The Prayer Against the State of Israel is well worth a read. Not sure if this would have been recited but for the Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition to have read out the last paragraph would have been quite something.0 -
Agreed, he has a close to zero chance of actually getting the nomination. Having said that, 270 was a pretty good price for an active politician who isn't actually brain dead; nice trading bet.HYUFD said:The Democratic base is not going to pick someone even more centrist than Clinton as Hickenlooper is, if he runs it will be on a third party ticket with Kasich.
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Who in Labour wants David Miliband back?!?
Can that be laid anywhere? I feel like getting some free money.0 -
BF have a lay at 40. Only £10 available.MaxPB said:Who in Labour wants David Miliband back?!?
Can that be laid anywhere? I feel like getting some free money.0 -
TheScreamingEagles said:
You sound like David Cameron’s Mum.AlastairMeeks said:Nice longshot. I expect you'll make money on him in time, one way or another.
He needs to sort out the flyaway collar and get an acquaintanceship with a comb.
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New forecast from Electoral Calculus based on March opinion polls:
Con 309
Lab 265
LD 13
SNP 40
Con 42.3%
Lab 41.0%
LD 7.4%
http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html0 -
Wonderfully daft name. Governor of what used to be a swing state although it is now fairly reliably Democratic. Not a complete geriatric. His odds are falling with every sentence.0
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At least you provide a reason for the existence of button downs.AlastairMeeks said:
I have problems with flyaway collars, so I sympathise....TheScreamingEagles said:
You sound like David Cameron’s Mum.AlastairMeeks said:Nice longshot. I expect you'll make money on him in time, one way or another.
He needs to sort out the flyaway collar and get an acquaintanceship with a comb.
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He can't do worse than the last one.Scott_P said:0 -
They are quite simply raving bonkers, no wonder Corbyn enjoyed his evening (in a personal capacity, of course).bardigiani said:According to the Sussex Friends of Israel Facebook group this is the programme from last night's Jewdas meeting.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l3kr_7IFCjzSZ7MHclK1WIplUvbvkASp/view
The Prayer Against the State of Israel is well worth a read. Not sure if this would have been recited but for the Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition to have read out the last paragraph would have been quite something.0 -
I can't remember who Clinton's VP pick was, yet I remember John Edwards was on the ticket in 2004. I didn't realise I was getting this old so quickly.
Edit: Tim Kaine, sounds like the poor chap who took over as Aussie captain recently.0 -
Was that written by a 12 year old?bardigiani said:According to the Sussex Friends of Israel Facebook group this is the programme from last night's Jewdas meeting.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l3kr_7IFCjzSZ7MHclK1WIplUvbvkASp/view
The Prayer Against the State of Israel is well worth a read. Not sure if this would have been recited but for the Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition to have read out the last paragraph would have been quite something.0 -
She wasn’t wrong.Nigelb said:TheScreamingEagles said:
You sound like David Cameron’s Mum.AlastairMeeks said:Nice longshot. I expect you'll make money on him in time, one way or another.
He needs to sort out the flyaway collar and get an acquaintanceship with a comb.
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I bet on him at 35/1rottenborough said:
BF have a lay at 40. Only £10 available.MaxPB said:Who in Labour wants David Miliband back?!?
Can that be laid anywhere? I feel like getting some free money. only to free up some cash for elsewhere on my books mind 0 -
What do you think gives you the right to dictate who the "right kind" of Jew to meet is?Richard_Nabavi said:
They are quite simply raving bonkers, no wonder Corbyn enjoyed his evening (in a personal capacity, of course).bardigiani said:According to the Sussex Friends of Israel Facebook group this is the programme from last night's Jewdas meeting.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l3kr_7IFCjzSZ7MHclK1WIplUvbvkASp/view
The Prayer Against the State of Israel is well worth a read. Not sure if this would have been recited but for the Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition to have read out the last paragraph would have been quite something.0 -
That’s a spoof.bardigiani said:According to the Sussex Friends of Israel Facebook group this is the programme from last night's Jewdas meeting.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l3kr_7IFCjzSZ7MHclK1WIplUvbvkASp/view
The Prayer Against the State of Israel is well worth a read. Not sure if this would have been recited but for the Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition to have read out the last paragraph would have been quite something.
Cut n paste Seder.
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Re: The Prince over the water.
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I see Owen Jones going all out to defend them too. What's happened to him? Is he trying to make amends for ever doubting Corbyn?Richard_Nabavi said:
They are quite simply raving bonkers, no wonder Corbyn enjoyed his evening (in a personal capacity, of course).bardigiani said:According to the Sussex Friends of Israel Facebook group this is the programme from last night's Jewdas meeting.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l3kr_7IFCjzSZ7MHclK1WIplUvbvkASp/view
The Prayer Against the State of Israel is well worth a read. Not sure if this would have been recited but for the Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition to have read out the last paragraph would have been quite something.0 -
Nothing, which is why I haven't 'dictated' any such thing. Quite the contrary, I would expect that those are exactly the kind of Jews Corbyn would happy to meet. He's entirely inclusive, supporting a widely diverse set of bonkers groups.Danny565 said:
What do you think gives you the right to dictate who the "right kind" of Jew to meet is?Richard_Nabavi said:
They are quite simply raving bonkers, no wonder Corbyn enjoyed his evening (in a personal capacity, of course).bardigiani said:According to the Sussex Friends of Israel Facebook group this is the programme from last night's Jewdas meeting.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l3kr_7IFCjzSZ7MHclK1WIplUvbvkASp/view
The Prayer Against the State of Israel is well worth a read. Not sure if this would have been recited but for the Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition to have read out the last paragraph would have been quite something.0 -
Vince Cable holds the balance of powerAndyJS said:New forecast from Electoral Calculus based on March opinion polls:
Con 309
Lab 265
LD 13
SNP 40
Con 42.3%
Lab 41.0%
LD 7.4%
http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html0 -
Indeed the unions are striking over reforms that Macron said he would do if elected.MaxPB said:
Hopefully the French people back him over the unions.MarqueeMark said:The Macron
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43617033
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I wouldn't count on it. France is a country where the voters lie to the politicians by voting for reformist leaders then en allant aux barricades when reform is proposed.MaxPB said:
Hopefully the French people back him over the unions.MarqueeMark said:The Macron
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For some reason I can't disassociate his name from this Dr Seuss book:DavidL said:Wonderfully daft name. Governor of what used to be a swing state although it is now fairly reliably Democratic. Not a complete geriatric. His odds are falling with every sentence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrambled_Eggs_Super!
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Plenty of sane people, who had been previously critical of Labour's handling of antisemitism, are defending Corbyn over this.Razedabode said:
I see Owen Jones going all out to defend them too. What's happened to him? Is he trying to make amends for ever doubting Corbyn?Richard_Nabavi said:
They are quite simply raving bonkers, no wonder Corbyn enjoyed his evening (in a personal capacity, of course).bardigiani said:According to the Sussex Friends of Israel Facebook group this is the programme from last night's Jewdas meeting.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l3kr_7IFCjzSZ7MHclK1WIplUvbvkASp/view
The Prayer Against the State of Israel is well worth a read. Not sure if this would have been recited but for the Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition to have read out the last paragraph would have been quite something.
Rhea Wolfson was on radio just yesterday saying how she was frustrated with how so many actual antisemites aren't being chucked out of the party - https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/labour-antisemitism-jewish-momentum-rhea-wolfson-corbyn-1.461778 - but today has been posting things like this on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/rheawolfson/status/981050566917984257
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Many moons ago I gave a lecture and touted a Governor from Georgia called Carter - but forgot to put a bet on it.rottenborough said:
Many, many moons ago, I made a tidy sum on an unknown from Arkansa called Bill.MikeSmithson said:
Funny you should say that but modesty forbids me from highlighting what became my best known bet.TheScreamingEagles said:Mike have you ever had a long odds winner in the Presidential markets ?
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Lol - you're getting manic with the continual posting today. No need to worry Jeremy's position is secure - nothing so far has budged him so always unlikely that the Jewish front could do it. Everything is hunky dory. I for one am very happy to see Labour continue to be led by JC.Danny565 said:
What do you think gives you the right to dictate who the "right kind" of Jew to meet is?Richard_Nabavi said:
They are quite simply raving bonkers, no wonder Corbyn enjoyed his evening (in a personal capacity, of course).bardigiani said:According to the Sussex Friends of Israel Facebook group this is the programme from last night's Jewdas meeting.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l3kr_7IFCjzSZ7MHclK1WIplUvbvkASp/view
The Prayer Against the State of Israel is well worth a read. Not sure if this would have been recited but for the Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition to have read out the last paragraph would have been quite something.0 -
Good one. Did you bet on a 2nd term?slade said:
Many moons ago I gave a lecture and touted a Governor from Georgia called Carter - but forgot to put a bet on it.rottenborough said:
Many, many moons ago, I made a tidy sum on an unknown from Arkansa called Bill.MikeSmithson said:
Funny you should say that but modesty forbids me from highlighting what became my best known bet.TheScreamingEagles said:Mike have you ever had a long odds winner in the Presidential markets ?
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Alternatively the strikers heading to the barricades aren't the same voters who elected the politician in the first place. So we have democracy trumped by caving in to the strikers.Dura_Ace said:
I wouldn't count on it. France is a country where the voters lie to the politicians by voting for reformist leaders then en allant aux barricades when reform is proposed.MaxPB said:
Hopefully the French people back him over the unions.MarqueeMark said:The Macron
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Good one. Did you bet on a 2nd term?slade said:
Many moons ago I gave a lecture and touted a Governor from Georgia called Carter - but forgot to put a bet on it.rottenborough said:
Many, many moons ago, I made a tidy sum on an unknown from Arkansa called Bill.MikeSmithson said:
Funny you should say that but modesty forbids me from highlighting what became my best known bet.TheScreamingEagles said:Mike have you ever had a long odds winner in the Presidential markets ?
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Conspiracy theory time: I wonder if McDonnell suggested to Jezza that he ought to attend the Jewdas event?0
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I feel there's a Woody Allen joke somewhere in there.Danny565 said:
Plenty of sane people, who had been previously critical of Labour's handling of antisemitism, are defending Corbyn over this.Razedabode said:
I see Owen Jones going all out to defend them too. What's happened to him? Is he trying to make amends for ever doubting Corbyn?Richard_Nabavi said:
They are quite simply raving bonkers, no wonder Corbyn enjoyed his evening (in a personal capacity, of course).bardigiani said:According to the Sussex Friends of Israel Facebook group this is the programme from last night's Jewdas meeting.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l3kr_7IFCjzSZ7MHclK1WIplUvbvkASp/view
The Prayer Against the State of Israel is well worth a read. Not sure if this would have been recited but for the Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition to have read out the last paragraph would have been quite something.
Rhea Wolfson was on radio just yesterday saying how she was frustrated with how so many actual antisemites aren't being chucked out of the party - https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/labour-antisemitism-jewish-momentum-rhea-wolfson-corbyn-1.461778 - but today has been posting things like this on Twitter:
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So what you're saying is the group of people Corbyn was attempting to unify have split over this issue?Danny565 said:
Plenty of sane people, who had been previously critical of Labour's handling of antisemitism, are defending Corbyn over this.Razedabode said:
I see Owen Jones going all out to defend them too. What's happened to him? Is he trying to make amends for ever doubting Corbyn?Richard_Nabavi said:
They are quite simply raving bonkers, no wonder Corbyn enjoyed his evening (in a personal capacity, of course).bardigiani said:According to the Sussex Friends of Israel Facebook group this is the programme from last night's Jewdas meeting.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l3kr_7IFCjzSZ7MHclK1WIplUvbvkASp/view
The Prayer Against the State of Israel is well worth a read. Not sure if this would have been recited but for the Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition to have read out the last paragraph would have been quite something.
Rhea Wolfson was on radio just yesterday saying how she was frustrated with how so many actual antisemites aren't being chucked out of the party - https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/labour-antisemitism-jewish-momentum-rhea-wolfson-corbyn-1.461778 - but today has been posting things like this on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/rheawolfson/status/981050566917984257
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In today’s Times, mentions one D Miliband.rottenborough said:Re: The Prince over the water.
Have I missed something this morning?
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Delivered with McDonnell's ruthlessness, this might have worked.SandyRentool said:Conspiracy theory time: I wonder if McDonnell suggested to Jezza that he ought to attend the Jewdas event?
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From last October. Just sayin'.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/10/21/tips-for-wh2020-bullock-hickenlooper-and-trump/0 -
I wouldn't trust Vince to hold anything for long. He'll drop it.HYUFD said:
Vince Cable holds the balance of powerAndyJS said:New forecast from Electoral Calculus based on March opinion polls:
Con 309
Lab 265
LD 13
SNP 40
Con 42.3%
Lab 41.0%
LD 7.4%
http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html0 -
Why would he hasten the leadership of Thornberry?TheWhiteRabbit said:
Delivered with McDonnell's ruthlessness, this might have worked.SandyRentool said:Conspiracy theory time: I wonder if McDonnell suggested to Jezza that he ought to attend the Jewdas event?
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Ta. Missed this one.TheScreamingEagles said:
In today’s Times, mentions one D Miliband.rottenborough said:Re: The Prince over the water.
Have I missed something this morning?
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/981117069491101697?s=21
This is an annual rite of spring now. A news story about Miliband returning to the shores like some migrating snow goose.0 -
Top Tip Jeremy: If McDonnell suggests you do a Solidarity For Bobby Sands Fast.....pack some sandwiches.SandyRentool said:Conspiracy theory time: I wonder if McDonnell suggested to Jezza that he ought to attend the Jewdas event?
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I consider myself a pretty centrist sort of guy, but if the answer is David Miliband Lord only knows what the question is.0
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I'm going to take a wild stab, and guess that these chaps aren't Jewish:
"Two men arrested in Dewsbury on suspicion of terrorist plot"
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/03/two-men-arrested-dewsbury-suspicion-terrorist-plot
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https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/981139501044019200/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https://www.conservativehome.com/category/frontpage
Oh dear - more training needed Naz.....0 -
It should be remembered that for all the media orgasms over Macron, he only won 24% of the vote in the first round: more than three-quarters of voters backed someone else. he won because he wasn't Le Pen. In the Fifth Republic's history, only Chirac (twice) was elected with a smaller first-round share.Philip_Thompson said:
Alternatively the strikers heading to the barricades aren't the same voters who elected the politician in the first place. So we have democracy trumped by caving in to the strikers.Dura_Ace said:
I wouldn't count on it. France is a country where the voters lie to the politicians by voting for reformist leaders then en allant aux barricades when reform is proposed.MaxPB said:
Hopefully the French people back him over the unions.MarqueeMark said:The Macron
DreamReality:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-436170330 -
"Who is the rudest interviewee you have ever met?" seems to be a popular answer from journalists to that query.Pulpstar said:I consider myself a pretty centrist sort of guy, but if the answer is David Miliband Lord only knows what the question is.
Tim Shipman suggested that that reason alone was why he lost the leadership (though being rude to others, including unions, must also have played a possibly sufficient part).0 -
I mean, just how f*cking stupid do you have to be to get selected as a Labour MP?felix said:https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/981139501044019200/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https://www.conservativehome.com/category/frontpage
Oh dear - more training needed Naz.....0 -
Having given this some thought, I think the only answer is that Corbyn's going for this record:;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YFsPKkR8ok
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Maybe there is a belief that he will flourish and grow into a good politician, be a wonderful speaker generating enthusiasm and loyalty in the electorate, that he will become a sure footed colossus of ideas and policy. It will magically happen if he is leader.Pulpstar said:I consider myself a pretty centrist sort of guy, but if the answer is David Miliband Lord only knows what the question is.
In any other galaxy or universe this requires pixie dust, powerful drugs and some extensive and ground breaking surgery to D Milliband providing him with emotional intelligence, empathy, charisma and a successful political mind, and that is just for starters.
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So no one wants him, he doesn't want it, and even if that weren't the case, he'd be useless.rottenborough said:
Sounds as though great uncle Vince is safe for another few months...0 -
Probably the training needed for Naz is not to use Twitter.felix said:https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/981139501044019200/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https://www.conservativehome.com/category/frontpage
Oh dear - more training needed Naz.....
There were always lots of very dumb MPs, but we never knew about them.
Twitter has removed all doubt about the collective stupidity of MPs, whether they are the Labour MP for Bradford West or the Tory MP for Mansfield.0 -
He has much more chance of winning the presidency as a Democrat than some third party / joint ticket run. The logistics of mounting that kind of outsider campaign are almost impossible to overcome. By contrast, a sensible centre candidate won't fire up the student vote but after three years of Trump, voters might have wearied a little of populists and radicals. That's not to say it'd be a walk in the park but it should certainly provide a route to the White House for a capable candidate.HYUFD said:
He is a better bet for the general election than the nomination but his problems getting the latter will mean he probably does not get to the former unless on a third party ticketTissue_Price said:
To be fair Mike mentions that in his piece. But Ladbrokes have Hickenlooper at 40/1 for the Democratic nomination, not 16/1. 40/1 sounds more like it for the reasons you give.HYUFD said:The Democratic base is not going to pick someone even more centrist than Clinton as Hickenlooper is, if he runs it will be on a third party ticket with Kasich.
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There is a long history of stupid MPs.YBarddCwsc said:
Probably the training needed for Naz is not to use Twitter.felix said:https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/981139501044019200/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https://www.conservativehome.com/category/frontpage
Oh dear - more training needed Naz.....
There were always lots of very dumb MPs, but we never knew about them.
Twitter has removed all doubt about the collective stupidity of MPs, whether they are the Labour MP for Bradford West or the Tory MP for Mansfield.
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