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According to Yougov most Britons who have travelled outside Europe went to the USA and Canada, with 44% having visited North America. 30% of Britons have been to Africa, 27% to Asia, 14% to Australia and 12% to South America.Sandpit said:
So 71% have travelled outside of Europe. That's a lot higher than I would have expected.AndyJS said:I wonder what percentage of people have travelled on a plane in anything other than economy class. 1%? 2%? 0.5%?
25% have never flown at all according to this article:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/a-quarter-of-britons-have-never-been-on-a-plane-visited-a-beach-or-european-capital/
"Twenty-two percent of Britons have never travelled on a plane and one in four have never visited a capital city in Europe, while nearly a third (29 per cent) have never travelled outside of Europe, and a fifth have never been to a beach, according to new research."
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/11/21/british-people-far-more-well-travelled-americans/0 -
It is not as beautiful as Rome I will give you thatFrancisUrquhart said:
I agree with all of that, except Paris...that is a shithole.HYUFD said:
Well firstly it is the nearest, bar Ireland and secondly it has Paris, skiing and warm sunny beaches in the south and great food and wineFrancisUrquhart said:HYUFD said:
I would imagine it is the 1% who most frequently fly in exclusive plane classes designed for the top 1% of earners.AndyJS said:I wonder what percentage of people have travelled on a plane in anything other than economy class. 1%? 2%? 0.5%?
25% have never flown at all according to this article:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/a-quarter-of-britons-have-never-been-on-a-plane-visited-a-beach-or-european-capital/
"Twenty-two percent of Britons have never travelled on a plane and one in four have never visited a capital city in Europe, while nearly a third (29 per cent) have never travelled outside of Europe, and a fifth have never been to a beach, according to new research."
'Kayak’s survey also revealed that France was the country most visited by Britons, with 68 per cent having been there in their lifetime, followed by Spain (63 per cent), Italy (44 per cent), the US (42 per cent) and Germany (41 per cent)'
Why so many Brit’s want to visit a shithole country like France is beyond me*!HYUFD said:
I would imagine it is the 1% who most frequently fly in exclusive plane classes designed for the top 1% of earners.AndyJS said:I wonder what percentage of people have travelled on a plane in anything other than economy class. 1%? 2%? 0.5%?
25% have never flown at all according to this article:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/a-quarter-of-britons-have-never-been-on-a-plane-visited-a-beach-or-european-capital/
"Twenty-two percent of Britons have never travelled on a plane and one in four have never visited a capital city in Europe, while nearly a third (29 per cent) have never travelled outside of Europe, and a fifth have never been to a beach, according to new research."
'Kayak’s survey also revealed that France was the country most visited by Britons, with 68 per cent having been there in their lifetime, followed by Spain (63 per cent), Italy (44 per cent), the US (42 per cent) and Germany (41 per cent)'
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It depends where you go and what you orderMortimer said:
Great wine, sure. Not sure about the great food any more. Had some pretty mediocre meals there in a way you just don't get in Italy...HYUFD said:
Well firstly it is the nearest, bar Ireland and secondly it has Paris, skiing and warm sunny beaches in the south and great food and wineFrancisUrquhart said:HYUFD said:
I would imagine it is the 1% who most frequently fly in exclusive plane classes designed for the top 1% of earners.AndyJS said:I wonder what percentage of people have travelled on a plane in anything other than economy class. 1%? 2%? 0.5%?
25% have never flown at all according to this article:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/a-quarter-of-britons-have-never-been-on-a-plane-visited-a-beach-or-european-capital/
"Twenty-two percent of Britons have never travelled on a plane and one in four have never visited a capital city in Europe, while nearly a third (29 per cent) have never travelled outside of Europe, and a fifth have never been to a beach, according to new research."
'Kayak’s survey also revealed that France was the country most visited by Britons, with 68 per cent having been there in their lifetime, followed by Spain (63 per cent), Italy (44 per cent), the US (42 per cent) and Germany (41 per cent)'
Why so many Brit’s want to visit a shithole country like France is beyond me*!HYUFD said:
I would imagine it is the 1% who most frequently fly in exclusive plane classes designed for the top 1% of earners.AndyJS said:I wonder what percentage of people have travelled on a plane in anything other than economy class. 1%? 2%? 0.5%?
25% have never flown at all according to this article:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/a-quarter-of-britons-have-never-been-on-a-plane-visited-a-beach-or-european-capital/
"Twenty-two percent of Britons have never travelled on a plane and one in four have never visited a capital city in Europe, while nearly a third (29 per cent) have never travelled outside of Europe, and a fifth have never been to a beach, according to new research."
'Kayak’s survey also revealed that France was the country most visited by Britons, with 68 per cent having been there in their lifetime, followed by Spain (63 per cent), Italy (44 per cent), the US (42 per cent) and Germany (41 per cent)'
* joking obvs.
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Given the number of French in London, I am going to guess my opinion isn’t unique.HYUFD said:
It is not as beautiful as Rome I will give you thatFrancisUrquhart said:
I agree with all of that, except Paris...that is a shithole.HYUFD said:
Well firstly it is the nearest, bar Ireland and secondly it has Paris, skiing and warm sunny beaches in the south and great food and wineFrancisUrquhart said:HYUFD said:
I would imagine it is the 1% who most frequently fly in exclusive plane classes designed for the top 1% of earners.AndyJS said:I wonder what percentage of people have travelled on a plane in anything other than economy class. 1%? 2%? 0.5%?
25% have never flown at all according to this article:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/a-quarter-of-britons-have-never-been-on-a-plane-visited-a-beach-or-european-capital/
"Twenty-two percent of Britons have never travelled on a plane and one in four have never visited a capital city in Europe, while nearly a third (29 per cent) have never travelled outside of Europe, and a fifth have never been to a beach, according to new research."
'Kayak’s survey also revealed that France was the country most visited by Britons, with 68 per cent having been there in their lifetime, followed by Spain (63 per cent), Italy (44 per cent), the US (42 per cent) and Germany (41 per cent)'
Why so many Brit’s want to visit a shithole country like France is beyond me*!HYUFD said:
I would imagine it is the 1% who most frequently fly in exclusive plane classes designed for the top 1% of earners.AndyJS said:I wonder what percentage of people have travelled on a plane in anything other than economy class. 1%? 2%? 0.5%?
25% have never flown at all according to this article:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/a-quarter-of-britons-have-never-been-on-a-plane-visited-a-beach-or-european-capital/
"Twenty-two percent of Britons have never travelled on a plane and one in four have never visited a capital city in Europe, while nearly a third (29 per cent) have never travelled outside of Europe, and a fifth have never been to a beach, according to new research."
'Kayak’s survey also revealed that France was the country most visited by Britons, with 68 per cent having been there in their lifetime, followed by Spain (63 per cent), Italy (44 per cent), the US (42 per cent) and Germany (41 per cent)'
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44% to North America? That seems an incredibly high figure. I would definitely treat that poll with caution.HYUFD said:
According to Yougov most Britons who have travelled outside Europe went to the USA and Canada, with 44% having visited North America. 30% of Britons have been to Africa, 27% to Asia, 14% to Australia and 12% to South America.Sandpit said:
So 71% have travelled outside of Europe. That's a lot higher than I would have expected.AndyJS said:I wonder what percentage of people have travelled on a plane in anything other than economy class. 1%? 2%? 0.5%?
25% have never flown at all according to this article:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/a-quarter-of-britons-have-never-been-on-a-plane-visited-a-beach-or-european-capital/
"Twenty-two percent of Britons have never travelled on a plane and one in four have never visited a capital city in Europe, while nearly a third (29 per cent) have never travelled outside of Europe, and a fifth have never been to a beach, according to new research."
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/11/21/british-people-far-more-well-travelled-americans/0 -
Does this include Yorkshire folk travelling outside of gods own country?RoyalBlue said:The most interesting part of that Kayak survey is that less than half the population went abroad in the previous year. It’s so easy to live in bubbles, especially those like PB that are so pleasant
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Some of the biggest Alpine ski resorts around Lyon are in the Southydoethur said:
You ski on warm sunny beaches?HYUFD said:
Well firstly it is the nearest, bar Ireland and secondly it has Paris, skiing and warm sunny beaches in the south and great food and wineFrancisUrquhart said:HYUFD said:
I would imagine it is the 1% who most frequently fly in exclusive plane classes designed for the top 1% of earners.AndyJS said:I wonder what percentage of people have travelled on a plane in anything other than economy class. 1%? 2%? 0.5%?
25% have never flown at all according to this article:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/a-quarter-of-britons-have-never-been-on-a-plane-visited-a-beach-or-european-capital/
"Twenty-two percent of Britons have never travelled on a plane and one in four have never visited a capital city in Europe, while nearly a third (29 per cent) have never travelled outside of Europe, and a fifth have never been to a beach, according to new research."
'Kayak’s survey also revealed that France was the country most visited by Britons, with 68 per cent having been there in their lifetime, followed by Spain (63 per cent), Italy (44 per cent), the US (42 per cent) and Germany (41 per cent)'
Why so many Brit’s want to visit a shithole country like France is beyond me*!HYUFD said:
I would imagine it is the 1% who most frequently fly in exclusive plane classes designed for the top 1% of earners.AndyJS said:I wonder what percentage of people have travelled on a plane in anything other than economy class. 1%? 2%? 0.5%?
25% have never flown at all according to this article:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/a-quarter-of-britons-have-never-been-on-a-plane-visited-a-beach-or-european-capital/
"Twenty-two percent of Britons have never travelled on a plane and one in four have never visited a capital city in Europe, while nearly a third (29 per cent) have never travelled outside of Europe, and a fifth have never been to a beach, according to new research."
'Kayak’s survey also revealed that France was the country most visited by Britons, with 68 per cent having been there in their lifetime, followed by Spain (63 per cent), Italy (44 per cent), the US (42 per cent) and Germany (41 per cent)'
* joking obvs.
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You can get excellent food in France, it's just not cheap.Mortimer said:Great wine, sure. Not sure about the great food any more. Had some pretty mediocre meals there in a way you just don't get in Italy...
What's worsened materially is the quality of French bistro cooking*. You used to be able to walk in to any French cafe or informal restaurant and get good, inexpensive food.
And that's not really true anymore.
* I wonder if some of it is relative decline: in that British food has gotten so much better.0 -
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They'd have to be in the south, otherwise they wouldn't be near Lyon...HYUFD said:
Some of the biggest Alpine ski resorts around Lyon are in the Southydoethur said:
You ski on warm sunny beaches?HYUFD said:
Well firstly it is the nearest, bar Ireland and secondly it has Paris, skiing and warm sunny beaches in the south and great food and wineFrancisUrquhart said:HYUFD said:
I would imagine it is the 1% who most frequently fly in exclusive plane classes designed for the top 1% of earners.AndyJS said:I wonder what percentage of people have travelled on a plane in anything other than economy class. 1%? 2%? 0.5%?
25% have never flown at all according to this article:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/a-quarter-of-britons-have-never-been-on-a-plane-visited-a-beach-or-european-capital/
"Twenty-two percent of Britons have never travelled on a plane and one in four have never visited a capital city in Europe, while nearly a third (29 per cent) have never travelled outside of Europe, and a fifth have never been to a beach, according to new research."
'Kayak’s survey also revealed that France was the country most visited by Britons, with 68 per cent having been there in their lifetime, followed by Spain (63 per cent), Italy (44 per cent), the US (42 per cent) and Germany (41 per cent)'
Why so many Brit’s want to visit a shithole country like France is beyond me*!HYUFD said:
I would imagine it is the 1% who most frequently fly in exclusive plane classes designed for the top 1% of earners.AndyJS said:I wonder what percentage of people have travelled on a plane in anything other than economy class. 1%? 2%? 0.5%?
25% have never flown at all according to this article:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/a-quarter-of-britons-have-never-been-on-a-plane-visited-a-beach-or-european-capital/
"Twenty-two percent of Britons have never travelled on a plane and one in four have never visited a capital city in Europe, while nearly a third (29 per cent) have never travelled outside of Europe, and a fifth have never been to a beach, according to new research."
'Kayak’s survey also revealed that France was the country most visited by Britons, with 68 per cent having been there in their lifetime, followed by Spain (63 per cent), Italy (44 per cent), the US (42 per cent) and Germany (41 per cent)'
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Calls to mind the Hale and Pace 'Yorkshire Airline' sketch - never rated H&P, but that one was genuinely funny.FrancisUrquhart said:
Does this include Yorkshire folk travelling outside of gods own country?RoyalBlue said:The most interesting part of that Kayak survey is that less than half the population went abroad in the previous year. It’s so easy to live in bubbles, especially those like PB that are so pleasant
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The media are asking the question because it is increasingly looking like Brexit can't be delivered.FrancisUrquhart said:
Nothing to do with the media keep asking the question....williamglenn said:The increasing frequency with which the government is saying there won't be a second referendum leads one to believe there will.
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Off-topic:
I know I dislike Apple, but this isn't me...
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It matches the Kayak poll where 42% have been to the USA.ydoethur said:
44% to North America? That seems an incredibly high figure. I would definitely treat that poll with caution.HYUFD said:
According to Yougov most Britons who have travelled outside Europe went to the USA and Canada, with 44% having visited North America. 30% of Britons have been to Africa, 27% to Asia, 14% to Australia and 12% to South America.Sandpit said:
So 71% have travelled outside of Europe. That's a lot higher than I would have expected.AndyJS said:I wonder what percentage of people have travelled on a plane in anything other than economy class. 1%? 2%? 0.5%?
25% have never flown at all according to this article:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/a-quarter-of-britons-have-never-been-on-a-plane-visited-a-beach-or-european-capital/
"Twenty-two percent of Britons have never travelled on a plane and one in four have never visited a capital city in Europe, while nearly a third (29 per cent) have never travelled outside of Europe, and a fifth have never been to a beach, according to new research."
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/11/21/british-people-far-more-well-travelled-americans/
It is not that surprising to see almost half of Britons have been to New York City, Washington DC, Chicago, Florida, the Grand Canyon or California at least once in their lifetime0 -
Paris is great. What’s wrong with it?FrancisUrquhart said:
I agree with all of that, except Paris...that is a shithole.HYUFD said:
Well firstly it is the nearest, bar Ireland and secondly it has Paris, skiing and warm sunny beaches in the south and great food and wineFrancisUrquhart said:HYUFD said:
I would imagine it is the 1% who most frequently fly in exclusive plane classes designed for the top 1% of earners.AndyJS said:I wonder what percentage of people have travelled on a plane in anything other than economy class. 1%? 2%? 0.5%?
25% have never flown at all according to this article:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/a-quarter-of-britons-have-never-been-on-a-plane-visited-a-beach-or-european-capital/
"Twenty-two percent of Britons have never travelled on a plane and one in four have never visited a capital city in Europe, while nearly a third (29 per cent) have never travelled outside of Europe, and a fifth have never been to a beach, according to new research."
'Kayak’s survey also revealed that France was the country most visited by Britons, with 68 per cent having been there in their lifetime, followed by Spain (63 per cent), Italy (44 per cent), the US (42 per cent) and Germany (41 per cent)'
Why so many Brit’s want to visit a shithole country like France is beyond me*!HYUFD said:
I would imagine it is the 1% who most frequently fly in exclusive plane classes designed for the top 1% of earners.AndyJS said:I wonder what percentage of people have travelled on a plane in anything other than economy class. 1%? 2%? 0.5%?
25% have never flown at all according to this article:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/a-quarter-of-britons-have-never-been-on-a-plane-visited-a-beach-or-european-capital/
"Twenty-two percent of Britons have never travelled on a plane and one in four have never visited a capital city in Europe, while nearly a third (29 per cent) have never travelled outside of Europe, and a fifth have never been to a beach, according to new research."
'Kayak’s survey also revealed that France was the country most visited by Britons, with 68 per cent having been there in their lifetime, followed by Spain (63 per cent), Italy (44 per cent), the US (42 per cent) and Germany (41 per cent)'
* joking obvs.
Am there right now and it’s as charming as ever.0 -
The last time I personally went on a conventional holiday abroad was four years ago, and I can't see myself doing it for many years to come. A holiday abroad would eat up about a significant percentage of our total gross family household income. Plus, it's a massive hassle: going to the airport, getting the flight, organising all the accommodation etc, going somewhere you don't know. Whats the point, when you can go somewhere in the UK? Its a beautiful country. Many of my colleagues (middle ranking public sector) have exactly the same perspective.FrancisUrquhart said:
That is surprising, given you can still get a £30 return flights to Europe.RoyalBlue said:The most interesting part of that Kayak survey is that less than half the population went abroad in the previous year. It’s so easy to live in bubbles, especially those like PB that are so pleasant
I say this as a remain voter.
The woman in the Kayak survey is irritating. So is much of the bulls**t from the travel industry. At one point, they had an advert campaign suggesting that people should go on five foreign holidays a year, a play on five a portions of fruit and veg per day, implying that that there was something intrinsically healthy about foreign travel. Getting on an easyjet flight, staying in a hotel and sitting around drinking coffee on some European city break doesn't broaden the mind. Reading a book does.
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4 million Brits visit the US every year - and a few will visit Canada too. As you say this covers an entire lifetime - even if you only went once twenty years ago.HYUFD said:
It matches the Kayak poll where 42% have been to the USA.ydoethur said:
44% to North America? That seems an incredibly high figure. I would definitely treat that poll with caution.HYUFD said:
According to Yougov most Britons who have travelled outside Europe went to the USA and Canada, with 44% having visited North America. 30% of Britons have been to Africa, 27% to Asia, 14% to Australia and 12% to South America.Sandpit said:
So 71% have travelled outside of Europe. That's a lot higher than I would have expected.AndyJS said:I wonder what percentage of people have travelled on a plane in anything other than economy class. 1%? 2%? 0.5%?
25% have never flown at all according to this article:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/a-quarter-of-britons-have-never-been-on-a-plane-visited-a-beach-or-european-capital/
"Twenty-two percent of Britons have never travelled on a plane and one in four have never visited a capital city in Europe, while nearly a third (29 per cent) have never travelled outside of Europe, and a fifth have never been to a beach, according to new research."
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/11/21/british-people-far-more-well-travelled-americans/
It is not that surprising to see almost half of Britons have been to New York City, Washington DC, Chicago, Florida, the Grand Canyon or California at least once in their lifetime
So 44 per cent over an entire lifetime isn't that hard to imagine being correct.0