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It was a far more interesting thread for it as well, even if it did involve the obligatory 'politicians are tossers' posts.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42197309
Surely DD doesn't give a fig about Green per se. Presumably this is all about ingratiating himself with Theresa and re-establishing his tough-guy image after his humiliation at the hands of Boris and Gove.
On the relative tosser scale it really does take an extra ordinary effort from members of an organisation to make them appear more of a bunch of tossers than the politicians. If you are making MPs or Ministers look good you really must be doing something seriously wrong.
Presumably John Rentoul and his friend don’t realise that post-Iraq world, his idea of the Labour Party has gradually lost credibility, which is a reason why we have Corbynism in the first place. Blair is one of the most reviled politicians in this country. IIRC even when Corbyn was at his most unpopular he was still more popular than Blair. Yet he really thinks the problem was only Gordon Brown and Ed Miliband.
Damien Green has not committed a crime -and the ONLY reason that this police officer could possibly have released this information is political.
I also didn’t say Corbynism was particularly credible, merely that attitudes like Rentoul’s has partly led to the emergence of Corbynism.
Callaghan is a bit too young for me, though I did meet him once, and I think he wasn't really given much of a chance to show his true self
Callaghan was unlucky to take over when the unions were really flexing their muscles and to be fair to him he did try and take sensible decisions on the public finances.
But if he goes, it will just encourage even more attacks like this.
Samuel Langhorne Clemens.
On QT: given the Greek ex-finance minister has been on, can we anticipate the wisdom of the Venezuelan finance minister? The Saudi Arabian minister for equality?
Edited extra bit: and don't forget to read my post-season review, replete with glorious graphs:
http://enormo-haddock.blogspot.co.uk/2017/12/2017-post-season-review.html
https://twitter.com/spajw/status/936988814974832640
And I guess from what you say, you'd be happy to have Plod able to access your MPs computer - and to read your private correspondence with your MP. Correspondence that might - theoretically - cover you talking to your MP about police corruption....
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/937007006526959618
Green needs to exempt himself from the glare of headlines like minister of porn even though the vast majority of men with independent access to the internet have browsed porn.....
But I wonder if Green was a lefty we would be getting quite the sense of injustice about the police from right wingers.
When people are asked generically about the police, they think of events like this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-42207935
@felix I’m not sure Cameron would win a GE again, especially in this new political climate where many are fed up of austerity, and where a divide in world views and values exists between Remainers and Leavers. The reality is people are not going to accept depressed wages for years and years on end; and a candidate which does not seek to address that is unlikely to win.
Clinton, Monica Lewinsky
Reagan, Iran-Contra
Nixon, WaterGate
Richard III, The Princes in the Tower.
I have an uneasy feeling we're about to add Trump to this list...
I'm nursing a horrible bout of manflu...but I have a ticket for the Divine Comedy this evening. It's a mile walk to the venue. Should I go?
No: how could you even THINK of inflicting Manflu on a crowded venue? I mean, the SUFFERING.....
Watch out for the floods!
I also once threatened to have two constables prosecuted for illegally stopping cars in Dursley for no reason while failing to show ID, which caused their sergeant a great deal of anxiety (he deserved it the bastard).
Don't know enough about Orgreave to comment. But if we don't hold the police to the highest standards, we're fools given the powers they have.
Hand size inadequate
Like you, I think the tide ha moved away from the type of Labour politics that he and Tony Blair espoused. Many people on all sides of politics haven't really noticed that the greeat ideological battles of the 20th century have disappeared. They think that nothing in politics demonstrably works for them, though they draw different conclusions from that.
https://twitter.com/DanielJHannan/status/936637825251934208
As Odo said, when you give people a choice the problem is sometimes they make that wrong choice.
The sad thing is, hardly anyone still lives in Venice.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/01/abc-news-issues-corrects-bombshell-michael-flynn-report.html
FAKE NEWS!!!
Rather like Damian Green, people are going to start sympathising with Trump if this continues.
But I'm not sure that the labels take us far any more. People are mostly quite conflicted themselves.
He went awfully quiet.
I agree with open borders and migration uncontrolled by governments. But I also feel anger and sadness when I see more and more housebuilding being proposed.
I want as little Government intervention in markets and in our activities as possible but I then get angry when that allows developers to destroy archaeological or environmentally sensitive sites because of lack of oversight.
I want absolute equality of treatment for all parts of society but still feel uneasy when an individual hotelier or shop keeper is prosecuted or forced out of business because of their religious beliefs conflicting with the law.
In all these cases I have chosen to let head rule over heart and so argue in favour of open borders, migration, cutting government intervention and abiding by equality laws. But I still recognise that these are things I am greatly conflicted over and as a result my arguments are not necessarily logical or coordinated in these or many other cases.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e34M6P1NXYM
Hanging on my a thread. Not good.
As Jonathan doesn't quite say, it's back to the 70s.
It is rather a myth that the unions were running amok in the Callaghan years. Until the Ford Motor strike in Autumn 1978 which was then followed by the Winter of Discontent in January & February 1979 the industrial scene had been largely peaceful since Wilson returned to office in March 1974. The way the Callaghan Government ended has coloured perceptions of that period as a whole. The Heath Government of the early to mid 70s and the earlier Wilson Government in the late 60s saw much more industrial unrest.
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It took Thatcher to control the unions after Wilson, Heath and Callaghan all failed to do so
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Castle, with Wilson's support, wanted to tame the unions and issued In Place of Strife, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Place_of_Strife.
Callaghan had no time for this, being much closer to the unions than either Castle or Wilson. When he took over in 1976, he sacked her.