I understand she has dual citizenship - UK and Iranian.
I also understand this complicates the situation in diplomatic terms
Not really. When acquiring British citizenship you are explicitly told that the U.K. government cannot help you in the event of detention by your home country if you retain citizenship of it. Dual citizenship has pluses and minuses.....
Could be. But if the govt doesn't have the votes to pass it... that will be quite awkward for TM won't it? Or will it let her claim there really are saboteurs?
It would show that Parliament really is Sovereign.
@bbclaurak: Stand out stat, there are ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SIX pages of amendments to the withdrawal bill... gulp
And this is the heart of May's problem - she doesn't have a working majority. The only issue of any real import in parliament is Brexit and she will be defeated if she tries to drive through whatever it is she's judged as the best hope to keep her in office.
She won't be able to abstain on these ones and declare victory. I remember the soap-opera feel of the Maastrict treaty through the Commons, but in the 20+ years since the audience has hardened and wants more bodies on the floor nudity and unbelievably bizarre plot twists. I expect we'll get all of this and more
One of my colleagues is from Northern Ireland, he's been pretty much channelling the wife of Corry Evans when it comes to Romanians and gypsies this morning.
Mr. L, Hillsborough is a fair point, stop and search less so. As stop and search has declined, crime has risen. Better for someone to be subject to a search than an acid or knife attack.
Indeed.
Expressing scepticism about a claim made by a former police officer with a grudge doesn't mean one should regard most police officers as dishonest, any more than one should regard Phil Shiner as being representative of the legal profession.
@elashton: PM spox on Zaghari-Ratcliffe: “The government’s position on this is very clear. She was there on holiday.” Won’t comment specifically on Gove’s remarks yesterday
Mr. L, Hillsborough is a fair point, stop and search less so. As stop and search has declined, crime has risen. Better for someone to be subject to a search than an acid or knife attack.
Indeed.
Expressing scepticism about a claim made by a former police officer with a grudge doesn't mean one should regard most police officers as dishonest, any more than one should regard Phil Shiner as being representative of the legal profession.
Yeah but we know all lawyers are a load of shysters though aren't they ;-)
Google says...
shyster - a person, especially aall lawyers, who uses unscrupulous, fraudulent, or deceptive methods in business.
Thanks so much. Hope TM starts getting some good luck for a change.
She is meeting European and UK business leaders in no 10 today and this must open a window of opportunity for her to persuade them to put equal pressure on the EU to resolve issues and move onto trade
Your optimism regarding TMay is admirable but, I fear, sadly misplaced. I suspect when historians look back on this period they will view it as one of the most inept examples of government in our nation's history.
However, on a more positive note, we still have a world class health service and I wish you every good fortune with your op!
I agree about historians likely view but it will almost certainly condemn all politicians on all sides to singularly fail to come together in the nations interest. I am sure history will be very unkind to TM but she has made some big mistakes and unless she is able to resolve Brexit she will not be able to recover her previous reputation
Always, when governments are up the proverbial creek without any form of propulsion, then the clarion call to all come together in the countries interest, shows that they really have lost it.....
Thanks so much. Hope TM starts getting some good luck for a change.
She is meeting European and UK business leaders in no 10 today and this must open a window of opportunity for her to persuade them to put equal pressure on the EU to resolve issues and move onto trade
Your optimism regarding TMay is admirable but, I fear, sadly misplaced. I suspect when historians look back on this period they will view it as one of the most inept examples of government in our nation's history.
However, on a more positive note, we still have a world class health service and I wish you every good fortune with your op!
I agree about historians likely view but it will almost certainly condemn all politicians on all sides to singularly fail to come together in the nations interest. I am sure history will be very unkind to TM but she has made some big mistakes and unless she is able to resolve Brexit she will not be able to recover her previous reputation
Always, when governments are up the proverbial creek without any form of propulsion, then the clarion call to all come together in the countries interest, shows that they really have lost it.....
It may just be too big an issue for any single party to resolve it but at present TM is retaining about 40% of the vote share and is preferred to Jeremy Corbyn. You may ask how on earth are labour not out of sight
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
You would have more credence ,if you showed us a quote of your prediction of the GE in June 17.Dated before June 8th.
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
You would have more credence ,if you showed us a quote of your prediction of the GE in June 17.Dated before June 8th.
The point is valid though. Corbyn is the issue for labour and it seems he is not going to be replaced anytime soon
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
Will be interesting to see how many votes Labour get with Corbyn in an election where he has a chance of winning rather than the free pass many thought the 2017 GE was.
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
Will be interesting to see how many votes Labour get with Corbyn in an election where he has a chance of winning rather than the free pass many thought the 2017 GE was.
He has no answers to his Iranian connections which have surfaced over the weekend
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
I wrote this in August 2016, and it seems apt now.
Those expecting Jeremy Corbyn to comport himself at the next general election with all the dignity, competence, and elan of a man who has just accidentally inserted his penis and scrotum into a hornets’ nest might be surprised at just how well Corbyn does at the next general election, in the past year nobody has become rich by underestimating Jeremy Corbyn.
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
Will be interesting to see how many votes Labour get with Corbyn in an election where he has a chance of winning rather than the free pass many thought the 2017 GE was.
He has no answers to his Iranian connections which have surfaced over the weekend
The electoral impact, even if Corbyn is still leader at the next election, is likely to be zero. See Venezuela and the IRA in the 2017 election.
Nicki Morgan on BBCDP effectively joining Soubry and calling for Boris to resign ("should be considering his position" followed by a set of scathing comments about his conduct)
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
You would have more credence ,if you showed us a quote of your prediction of the GE in June 17.Dated before June 8th.
The point is valid though. Corbyn is the issue for labour and it seems he is not going to be replaced anytime soon
He was the main issue at the last GE for Labour , many on here me included said he would take Labour to a calamitous defeat .On here discussions were Labour were finished .Now a bit of reflection that their preconceived opinions might just be wrong would be nice to read for a change .Rather than tell us the same thing they did in April 17 then regurgitate for 2022.
Nicki Morgan on BBCDP effectively joining Soubry and calling for Boris to resign ("should be considering his position" followed by a set of scathing comments about his conduct)
I don't think she was over happy about the dead bodies in Libya gag, was she?
It is especially important at a time when Trump is potus that we put down a marker to say that in this country at least there are limits to how big an arse you can be and remain in high office. May should sack him this week.
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
Corbyn may not win next time, the Tories could even win most seats but provided he has enough support from the SNP and LDs when combined with Labour to get over the 326 MPs needed for a majority in Parliament even if he does not win an overall majority Corbyn could for a minority government.
It may become the worst government in our post war history but that would not stop Corbyn leading it.
Nicki Morgan on BBCDP effectively joining Soubry and calling for Boris to resign ("should be considering his position" followed by a set of scathing comments about his conduct)
I don't think she was over happy about the dead bodies in Libya gag, was she?
It is especially important at a time when Trump is potus that we put down a marker to say that in this country at least there are limits to how big an arse you can be and remain in high office. May should sack him this week.
Now she is describing Mrs May as tone deaf and tin eared....
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
You would have more credence ,if you showed us a quote of your prediction of the GE in June 17.Dated before June 8th.
The point is valid though. Corbyn is the issue for labour and it seems he is not going to be replaced anytime soon
He was the main issue at the last GE for Labour , many on here me included said he would take Labour to a calamitous defeat .On here discussions were Labour were finished .Now a bit of reflection that their preconceived opinions might just be wrong would be nice to read for a change .Rather than tell us the same thing they did in April 17 then regurgitate for 2022.
But why are laboir not miles ahead in the polls - if they had a half decent leader they would be
Perhaps but there is an argument for saying it would have been better for the Tories had Kinnock become PM in 1992
Possibly. I distinctly remember that the first thing Kinnock did after losing was to get a letter off to the Times criticising the Major government's ERM policy. He seems to have foreseen the problem that later wrecked the Tories' reputation for economic competence. I think it is entirely plausible that he would have avoided that pitfall.
Kinnock would have kept the UK in the ERM again until at least Black Wednesday and ran a far more left-wing government than Blair did. Heseltine or Portillo could have succeeded Major as Tory leader and even beaten Kinnock by 1997.
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
I wrote this in August 2016, and it seems apt now.
Those expecting Jeremy Corbyn to comport himself at the next general election with all the dignity, competence, and elan of a man who has just accidentally inserted his penis and scrotum into a hornets’ nest might be surprised at just how well Corbyn does at the next general election, in the past year nobody has become rich by underestimating Jeremy Corbyn.
In the context of his subsequent (relative) success, one has to wonder whether you actually witnessed him perform such a procedure with (relative) elan before writing the article....
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
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Wrong ! If the Tories were to lose 7 by elections support from the DUP would no longer be sufficient to prop them up..
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
yebbut...
That is an I wouldn't have started from here point.
If Jezza hadn't been leader then whoever it had been would have campaigned strongly for Remain, the Referendum would have been Remain, there would have been no GE, and we would all be throwing our hands up in horror at the pasty tax debacle today.
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
You would have more credence ,if you showed us a quote of your prediction of the GE in June 17.Dated before June 8th.
The point is valid though. Corbyn is the issue for labour and it seems he is not going to be replaced anytime soon
He was the main issue at the last GE for Labour , many on here me included said he would take Labour to a calamitous defeat .On here discussions were Labour were finished .Now a bit of reflection that their preconceived opinions might just be wrong would be nice to read for a change .Rather than tell us the same thing they did in April 17 then regurgitate for 2022.
I fess up. And I did at the time. I predicted absolutely slaughter for Labour, I bet accordingly, and I was wrong. About a week or so from polling day, I started to get a feeling that things were seriously starting to head Labour's way and put a bit of a hedge bet in. Just as well, otherwise I would have lost big time.
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
You would have more credence ,if you showed us a quote of your prediction of the GE in June 17.Dated before June 8th.
The point is valid though. Corbyn is the issue for labour and it seems he is not going to be replaced anytime soon
He was the main issue at the last GE for Labour , many on here me included said he would take Labour to a calamitous defeat .On here discussions were Labour were finished .Now a bit of reflection that their preconceived opinions might just be wrong would be nice to read for a change .Rather than tell us the same thing they did in April 17 then regurgitate for 2022.
But why are laboir not miles ahead in the polls - if they had a half decent leader they would be
That is very rare a mere 5 months after a general election.
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
I wrote this in August 2016, and it seems apt now.
Those expecting Jeremy Corbyn to comport himself at the next general election with all the dignity, competence, and elan of a man who has just accidentally inserted his penis and scrotum into a hornets’ nest might be surprised at just how well Corbyn does at the next general election, in the past year nobody has become rich by underestimating Jeremy Corbyn.
In the context of his subsequent (relative) success, one has to wonder whether you actually witnessed him perform such a procedure with (relative) elan before writing the article....
Well, a few days later I wrote this.
During PMQs, Jeremy Corbyn often displays the anguish of a man with a bumblebee trapped under his foreskin
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
You would have more credence ,if you showed us a quote of your prediction of the GE in June 17.Dated before June 8th.
The point is valid though. Corbyn is the issue for labour and it seems he is not going to be replaced anytime soon
He was the main issue at the last GE for Labour , many on here me included said he would take Labour to a calamitous defeat .On here discussions were Labour were finished .Now a bit of reflection that their preconceived opinions might just be wrong would be nice to read for a change .Rather than tell us the same thing they did in April 17 then regurgitate for 2022.
But why are laboir not miles ahead in the polls - if they had a half decent leader they would be
That is very rare a mere 5 months after a general election.
True.
The best comparison is 1992, I think. A significant period of Tory government, but a relatively new leader.
It took about 6-7 months for Labour (now under Smith) to achieve double digit leads.
That means the New Year for Corbyn (no new leader there of course).
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
You would have more credence ,if you showed us a quote of your prediction of the GE in June 17.Dated before June 8th.
The point is valid though. Corbyn is the issue for labour and it seems he is not going to be replaced anytime soon
He was the main issue at the last GE for Labour , many on here me included said he would take Labour to a calamitous defeat .On here discussions were Labour were finished .Now a bit of reflection that their preconceived opinions might just be wrong would be nice to read for a change .Rather than tell us the same thing they did in April 17 then regurgitate for 2022.
But why are laboir not miles ahead in the polls - if they had a half decent leader they would be
That is very rare a mere 5 months after a general election.
True.
The best comparison is 1992, I think. A significant period of Tory government, but a relatively new leader.
It took about 6-7 months for Labour (now under Smith) to achieve double digit leads.
That means the New Year for Corbyn (no new leader there of course).
In Corbyn's defence he has no 'Black Wednesday' moment to get a real boost from.
I maintain though that a fundamental issue for Labour is that people voted for them, despite Jezza, because he had no way on earth he would be PM.
That will not apply next time.
But by the last week of the election campaign there were several polls pointing to a Hung Parliament - a big Tory win was no longer the certainty it had appeared a month earlier. Many people cast their votes on June 8th knowing that the result might be close.
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
You would have more credence ,if you showed us a quote of your prediction of the GE in June 17.Dated before June 8th.
The point is valid though. Corbyn is the issue for labour and it seems he is not going to be replaced anytime soon
He was the main issue at the last GE for Labour , many on here me included said he would take Labour to a calamitous defeat .On here discussions were Labour were finished .Now a bit of reflection that their preconceived opinions might just be wrong would be nice to read for a change .Rather than tell us the same thing they did in April 17 then regurgitate for 2022.
But why are laboir not miles ahead in the polls - if they had a half decent leader they would be
That is very rare a mere 5 months after a general election.
True.
The best comparison is 1992, I think. A significant period of Tory government, but a relatively new leader.
It took about 6-7 months for Labour (now under Smith) to achieve double digit leads.
That means the New Year for Corbyn (no new leader there of course).
In Corbyn's defence he has no 'Black Wednesday' moment to get a real boost from.
Yet.
I would look at it like this.
Winning governments retain a certain level of confidence, for a while. Backers can't justify switching.
Then something comes along - Black Wednesday, the Omnishambles, etc, when the penny drops. To a very large extent, the drop itself is inevitable, it's the timing that's up for grabs.
I wrote this in August 2016, and it seems apt now.
Those expecting Jeremy Corbyn to comport himself at the next general election with all the dignity, competence, and elan of a man who has just accidentally inserted his penis and scrotum into a hornets’ nest might be surprised at just how well Corbyn does at the next general election, in the past year nobody has become rich by underestimating Jeremy Corbyn.
Nick Palmer comment on that thread also looks pretty good (abridged)
"As we're seeing in other countries, people don't always vote on a predictable left-right scale, and sometimes they vote for a style instead. I think he'll find it difficult to win a majority, but he has a style USP that his opponents generally lack which will make him do better than expected."
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
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Wrong ! If the Tories were to lose 7 by elections support from the DUP would no longer be sufficient to prop them up..
Losing 7 in a modern parliament is going some. MPs don't drop like they used to and there is no way on earth any tory MP who is sitting on anything less than a 20,000 majority will be made High Commissioner of Wheresthatplace.
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
You would have more credence ,if you showed us a quote of your prediction of the GE in June 17.Dated before June 8th.
The point is valid though. Corbyn is the issue for labour and it seems he is not going to be replaced anytime soon
He was the main issue at the last GE for Labour , many on here me included said he would take Labour to a calamitous defeat .On here discussions were Labour were finished .Now a bit of reflection that their preconceived opinions might just be wrong would be nice to read for a change .Rather than tell us the same thing they did in April 17 then regurgitate for 2022.
But why are laboir not miles ahead in the polls - if they had a half decent leader they would be
That is very rare a mere 5 months after a general election.
True.
The best comparison is 1992, I think. A significant period of Tory government, but a relatively new leader.
It took about 6-7 months for Labour (now under Smith) to achieve double digit leads.
That means the New Year for Corbyn (no new leader there of course).
In Corbyn's defence he has no 'Black Wednesday' moment to get a real boost from.
Yet.
I would look at it like this.
Winning governments retain a certain level of confidence, for a while. Backers can't justify switching.
Then something comes along - Black Wednesday, the Omnishambles, etc, when the penny drops. To a very large extent, the drop itself is inevitable, it's the timing that's up for grabs.
I think I can guess what this government's version of these events might be.
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
You would have more credence ,if you showed us a quote of your prediction of the GE in June 17.Dated before June 8th.
The point is valid though. Corbyn is the issue for labour and it seems he is not going to be replaced anytime soon
He was the main issue at the last GE for Labour , many on here me included said he would take Labour to a calamitous defeat .On here discussions were Labour were finished .Now a bit of reflection that their preconceived opinions might just be wrong would be nice to read for a change .Rather than tell us the same thing they did in April 17 then regurgitate for 2022.
But why are laboir not miles ahead in the polls - if they had a half decent leader they would be
That is very rare a mere 5 months after a general election.
Yep, this government is still in its 'honeymoon period' !!
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
You would have more credence ,if you showed us a quote of your prediction of the GE in June 17.Dated before June 8th.
The point is valid though. Corbyn is the issue for labour and it seems he is not going to be replaced anytime soon
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But why are laboir not miles ahead in the polls - if they had a half decent leader they would be
That is very rare a mere 5 months after a general election.
True.
The best comparison is 1992, I think. A significant period of Tory government, but a relatively new leader.
It took about 6-7 months for Labour (now under Smith) to achieve double digit leads.
That means the New Year for Corbyn (no new leader there of course).
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
You would have more credence ,if you showed us a quote of your prediction of the GE in June 17.Dated before June 8th.
The point is valid though. Corbyn is the issue for labour and it seems he is not going to be replaced anytime soon
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But why are laboir not miles ahead in the polls - if they had a half decent leader they would be
That is very rare a mere 5 months after a general election.
ICM still had Labour and the Tories level pegging in October 1992.
It's true that there was little demand or pressure for May to legitimize her leadership with a General Election when she was anointed Tory leader. Part of that was because she already held one of the highest positions, she said the right things in her opening speeches and she was deemed an acceptable PM by the population. If the Tories go for someone divisive like Rees Mogg or Boris, it could be very different.
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
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Wrong ! If the Tories were to lose 7 by elections support from the DUP would no longer be sufficient to prop them up..
Losing 7 in a modern parliament is going some. MPs don't drop like they used to and there is no way on earth any tory MP who is sitting on anything less than a 20,000 majority will be made High Commissioner of Wheresthatplace.
I am not disagreeing with that at all - but simply pointing out that if it were to happen continued support from the DUP would no longer be enough!
Dent-Coad's remarks could be construed as straight up racist. I think she's going to have to consider her position very shortly, and/or be suspended as per "Anne Marie Morris".
Dent-Coad's remarks could be construed as straight up racist. I think she's going to have to consider her position very shortly, and/or be suspended as per "Anne Marie Morris".
Can you imagine if a Tory MP for Kensington said a Black Labour candidate "wouldn't be welcome in South Ken" if they got elected???????
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
You would have more credence ,if you showed us a quote of your prediction of the GE in June 17.Dated before June 8th.
The point is valid though. Corbyn is the issue for labour and it seems he is not going to be replaced anytime soon
He was the main issue at the last GE for Labour , many on here me included said he would take Labour to a calamitous defeat .On here discussions were Labour were finished .Now a bit of reflection that their preconceived opinions might just be wrong would be nice to read for a change .Rather than tell us the same thing they did in April 17 then regurgitate for 2022.
I fess up. And I did at the time. I predicted absolutely slaughter for Labour, I bet accordingly, and I was wrong. About a week or so from polling day, I started to get a feeling that things were seriously starting to head Labour's way and put a bit of a hedge bet in. Just as well, otherwise I would have lost big time.
I was to ,betting May would get a 150 majority.All my ideas of how politics worked went up in the air , on hearing that exit poll at 10pm on 08/06/17.I started thinking something was no quite right when I took my daughter to vote , the amount of young people voting was on a different scale to 2015.Also I read on UK Polling Report that a poster was saying Canterbury was going Labour and the previous evening David Herdson comment.Still found it difficult to believe Labour were not going to get a hammering.
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Dent-Coad's remarks could be construed as straight up racist. I think she's going to have to consider her position very shortly, and/or be suspended as per "Anne Marie Morris".
I am usually at the front of the queue of those defending MPs against seeming idiocy; to be an MP you really do need a set of qualities that, simply, most people do not possess.
But this does seem extraordinary from her and for all the world they seem the words of a fucking idiot.
I wrote this in August 2016, and it seems apt now.
Those expecting Jeremy Corbyn to comport himself at the next general election with all the dignity, competence, and elan of a man who has just accidentally inserted his penis and scrotum into a hornets’ nest might be surprised at just how well Corbyn does at the next general election, in the past year nobody has become rich by underestimating Jeremy Corbyn.
Nick Palmer comment on that thread also looks pretty good (abridged)
"As we're seeing in other countries, people don't always vote on a predictable left-right scale, and sometimes they vote for a style instead. I think he'll find it difficult to win a majority, but he has a style USP that his opponents generally lack which will make him do better than expected."
Corbyn's USP is that he is the anti-establishment candidate. And a large number of voters want to give the establishment a severe kick in the hind quarters.
Neither May nor any of her putative successors - except possibly JRM - could credibly present themselves as anti-establishment figures.
I maintain though that a fundamental issue for Labour is that people voted for them, despite Jezza, because he had no way on earth he would be PM.
That will not apply next time.
But by the last week of the election campaign there were several polls pointing to a Hung Parliament - a big Tory win was no longer the certainty it had appeared a month earlier. Many people cast their votes on June 8th knowing that the result might be close.
Nah, we know that voters pay hardly any attention to the polls, it takes months for the political narrative to change because largely the voters only get interested in politics when they get in the car to drive to the polling station.
I wrote this in August 2016, and it seems apt now.
Those expecting Jeremy Corbyn to comport himself at the next general election with all the dignity, competence, and elan of a man who has just accidentally inserted his penis and scrotum into a hornets’ nest might be surprised at just how well Corbyn does at the next general election, in the past year nobody has become rich by underestimating Jeremy Corbyn.
Nick Palmer comment on that thread also looks pretty good (abridged)
"As we're seeing in other countries, people don't always vote on a predictable left-right scale, and sometimes they vote for a style instead. I think he'll find it difficult to win a majority, but he has a style USP that his opponents generally lack which will make him do better than expected."
Corbyn's USP is that he is the anti-establishment candidate. And a large number of voters want to give the establishment a severe kick in the hind quarters.
Neither May nor any of her putative successors - except possibly JRM - could credibly present themselves as anti-establishment figures.
Lol - the son of a peer and editor of The Times, educated at Eton, millionaire from working in the City - is "anti-establishment" !?! I think you need a dictionary.
There wont be a general election until 2022. For the Tories to lose a vote of confidence, they would have to lose 7 by elections, and the DUP would have to vote against the government.
Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
You would have more credence ,if you showed us a quote of your prediction of the GE in June 17.Dated before June 8th.
The point is valid though. Corbyn is the issue for labour and it seems he is not going to be replaced anytime soon
He was the main issue at the last GE for Labour , many on here me included said he would take Labour to a calamitous defeat .On here discussions were Labour were finished .Now a bit of reflection that their preconceived opinions might just be wrong would be nice to read for a change .Rather than tell us the same thing they did in April 17 then regurgitate for 2022.
But why are laboir not miles ahead in the polls - if they had a half decent leader they would be
That is very rare a mere 5 months after a general election.
True.
The best comparison is 1992, I think. A significant period of Tory government, but a relatively new leader.
It took about 6-7 months for Labour (now under Smith) to achieve double digit leads.
That means the New Year for Corbyn (no new leader there of course).
Even John Smith was a different proposition from Corbyn and even by the end of 1992 Labour had a bigger lead than it does now.
I maintain though that a fundamental issue for Labour is that people voted for them, despite Jezza, because he had no way on earth he would be PM.
That will not apply next time.
But by the last week of the election campaign there were several polls pointing to a Hung Parliament - a big Tory win was no longer the certainty it had appeared a month earlier. Many people cast their votes on June 8th knowing that the result might be close.
We care about those polls.
Other voters? Not so much. I bet they don't register at all with 90%+ of voters. And when they do, it takes a week or two for that to seep into the general consciousness. They were still on the Labour-will-get-hammered-vote-how-you-like memo......
I wrote this in August 2016, and it seems apt now.
Those expecting Jeremy Corbyn to comport himself at the next general election with all the dignity, competence, and elan of a man who has just accidentally inserted his penis and scrotum into a hornets’ nest might be surprised at just how well Corbyn does at the next general election, in the past year nobody has become rich by underestimating Jeremy Corbyn.
Nick Palmer comment on that thread also looks pretty good (abridged)
"As we're seeing in other countries, people don't always vote on a predictable left-right scale, and sometimes they vote for a style instead. I think he'll find it difficult to win a majority, but he has a style USP that his opponents generally lack which will make him do better than expected."
Corbyn's USP is that he is the anti-establishment candidate. And a large number of voters want to give the establishment a severe kick in the hind quarters.
Neither May nor any of her putative successors - except possibly JRM - could credibly present themselves as anti-establishment figures.
Lol - the son of a peer and editor of The Times, educated at Eton, millionaire from working in the City - is "anti-establishment" !?! I think you need a dictionary.
Well the prep school educated and Shropshire manor house raised Corbyn is hardly anti establishment by back round either just by ideology like Mogg.
Davis, council house raised and state educated and son of a single mother, is more non establishment by background than both, if slightly more moderate by ideology
I maintain though that a fundamental issue for Labour is that people voted for them, despite Jezza, because he had no way on earth he would be PM.
That will not apply next time.
But by the last week of the election campaign there were several polls pointing to a Hung Parliament - a big Tory win was no longer the certainty it had appeared a month earlier. Many people cast their votes on June 8th knowing that the result might be close.
We care about those polls.
Other voters? Not so much. I bet they don't register at all with 90%+ of voters. And when they do, it takes a week or two for that to seep into the general consciousness. They were still on the Labour-will-get-hammered-vote-how-you-like memo......
I think most people were aware that the gap had narrowed a lot and were no longer expecting a Tory landslide.
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Whats the bet ?
I challenged a "lost" bet with Ladbrokes recently, they paid out about 15 minutes after my chat
That minuted quote from the Housing and Property Scrutiny Committee that "Coucillor Dent Coad praised the refurbishment of Grenfell Tower which she felt showed the Council had listened to residents" is even more politically toxic though.
Dent-Coad's remarks could be construed as straight up racist. I think she's going to have to consider her position very shortly, and/or be suspended as per "Anne Marie Morris".
Mr. Pulpstar, just 2.4 on Hamilton not to be on the podium. The line was that he started from the pit lane so it didn't count but I found a tweet from Andrew Benson the day before I made the bet, indicating Hamilton would be starting from the pit lane.
I maintain though that a fundamental issue for Labour is that people voted for them, despite Jezza, because he had no way on earth he would be PM.
That will not apply next time.
But by the last week of the election campaign there were several polls pointing to a Hung Parliament - a big Tory win was no longer the certainty it had appeared a month earlier. Many people cast their votes on June 8th knowing that the result might be close.
We care about those polls.
Other voters? Not so much. I bet they don't register at all with 90%+ of voters. And when they do, it takes a week or two for that to seep into the general consciousness. They were still on the Labour-will-get-hammered-vote-how-you-like memo......
I think most people were aware that the gap had narrowed a lot and were no longer expecting a Tory landslide.
I thought it would be a 1979-type win, up till the Exit Poll.
I wrote this in August 2016, and it seems apt now.
Those expecting Jeremy Corbyn to comport himself at the next general election with all the dignity, competence, and elan of a man who has just accidentally inserted his penis and scrotum into a hornets’ nest might be surprised at just how well Corbyn does at the next general election, in the past year nobody has become rich by underestimating Jeremy Corbyn.
Nick Palmer comment on that thread also looks pretty good (abridged)
"As we're seeing in other countries, people don't always vote on a predictable left-right scale, and sometimes they vote for a style instead. I think he'll find it difficult to win a majority, but he has a style USP that his opponents generally lack which will make him do better than expected."
Corbyn's USP is that he is the anti-establishment candidate. And a large number of voters want to give the establishment a severe kick in the hind quarters.
Neither May nor any of her putative successors - except possibly JRM - could credibly present themselves as anti-establishment figures.
Lol - the son of a peer and editor of The Times, educated at Eton, millionaire from working in the City - is "anti-establishment" !?! I think you need a dictionary.
Well the prep school educated and Shropshire manor house raised Corbyn is hardly anti establishment by back round either just by ideology like Mogg.
Davis, council house raised and state educated and son of a single mother, is more non establishment by background than both, if slightly more moderate by ideology
I'm not sure it is about being a member of the elite or not, it is about appearing like you are not a cookie cut member of the political class.
Trump was establishment: rich, well connected, dad was a major property developer, friends with Clintons and bankers etc etc. But he managed to appear as if he just walked out of a redneck bar somewhere in the swamps of Louisiana.
Mr. Pulpstar, just 2.4 on Hamilton not to be on the podium. The line was that he started from the pit lane so it didn't count but I found a tweet from Andrew Benson the day before I made the bet, indicating Hamilton would be starting from the pit lane.
Anyway, got to go walk the hound now.
I suspect "starting from pit lane" wasn't there as an explicit term when you placed the bet. My own was a Dodgers saver placed each way. Ladbrokes initially tried to claim the e/w terms were 1-1, one place only. Which is ridiculous and simply wasn't the case.
They're trying it on with you, and have gone sharply downhill since the merger I think.
' “If there are places where the role of the court will make it better or easier for us to have the right relationship in the future I would be open to that.”
Makes sense to me. '
I've read it several times and still not quite sure what he's saying. Is it ...
(a) If they find in our favour, we will accept it. (b) if they find against us, we will accept it, and do what they want so as to gain goodwill.
How is that different to saying we will accept the decisions of a foreign court?
Mr G, Best wishes. Hopefully, you'll soon be back doing backward somersaults.
A bit like Labour when it comes to the EU.
This is the one area I find most difficult to understand about our EU negotiations.
In pretty much every treaty that we enter into, we accept binding dispute resolution. So, our membership of NATO leads us to accept rulings of the NATO court. Our membership of the International Telecoms Union binds us to accept the rulings of their dispute resolution mechanisms.
There is nothing unusual in us signing up to a foreign body for dispute resolution.
The question is one of scope. We are used, in the UK, the ECJ having the ability to have a major impact on domestic law. It needn't be like that. Theoretically, we could enter into a treaty with the EU that made us members of the European Medicines Agency, and meant that we accepted rulings of the ECJ in respect to medicines manufacture. The ECJ could rule on other stuff as they liked, but the treaties (and more importantly UK law) would simply not recognise them as having any impact on the UK.
I get the feeling the "no ECJ" rule was lazily tossed out, and now it can't be walked back.
I wrote this in August 2016, and it seems apt now.
Those expecting Jeremy Corbyn to comport himself at the next general election with all the dignity, competence, and elan of a man who has just accidentally inserted his penis and scrotum into a hornets’ nest might be surprised at just how well Corbyn does at the next general election, in the past year nobody has become rich by underestimating Jeremy Corbyn.
Nick Palmer comment on that thread also looks pretty good (abridged)
"As we're seeing in other countries, people don't always vote on a predictable left-right scale, and sometimes they vote for a style instead. I think he'll find it difficult to win a majority, but he has a style USP that his opponents generally lack which will make him do better than expected."
Corbyn's USP is that he is the anti-establishment candidate. And a large number of voters want to give the establishment a severe kick in the hind quarters.
Neither May nor any of her putative successors - except possibly JRM - could credibly present themselves as anti-establishment figures.
Lol - the son of a peer and editor of The Times, educated at Eton, millionaire from working in the City - is "anti-establishment" !?! I think you need a dictionary.
Well the prep school educated and Shropshire manor house raised Corbyn is hardly anti establishment by back round either just by ideology like Mogg.
Davis, council house raised and state educated and son of a single mother, is more non establishment by background than both, if slightly more moderate by ideology
I'm not sure it is about being a member of the elite or not, it is about appearing like you are not a cookie cut member of the political class.
Trump was establishment: rich, well connected, dad was a major property developer, friends with Clintons and bankers etc etc. But he managed to appear as if he just walked out of a redneck bar somewhere in the swamps of Louisiana.
Which applies equally to Sanders, Corbyn and Rees Mogg but not May or Hillary
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https://order-order.com/2017/11/13/kensington-tories-ask-voters-important-grenfell/
The Brexiteers would be cheering that. Right?
https://twitter.com/WikiGuido/status/930031292023963649
She won't be able to abstain on these ones and declare victory. I remember the soap-opera feel of the Maastrict treaty through the Commons, but in the 20+ years since the audience has hardened and wants more bodies on the floor nudity and unbelievably bizarre plot twists. I expect we'll get all of this and more
His views on Brexit matter more to the Brexiteers who seek to defend the indefensible that anybody else
https://twitter.com/CllrTomHayes/status/930032159750017026
I have no brief with Boris and absolutely do not want him near the leadership of my party
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/tyson-fury-gypsy-king-cambridgeshire-13884321
Expressing scepticism about a claim made by a former police officer with a grudge doesn't mean one should regard most police officers as dishonest, any more than one should regard Phil Shiner as being representative of the legal profession.
Google says...
shyster - a person, especially
aall lawyers, who uses unscrupulous, fraudulent, or deceptive methods in business.Corbyn will be 73, The Tories will have a new leader, none of the mistakes of the 2017 Tory campaign will be repeated, and the Tories will massively attack Corbyn's economic plans.
The only way that Labour can win a general election is to get rid of Corbyn. Corbyn not only keeps the current Tory poll rating at 40% when the Tories are messing up big, but he will also keep them in power after 2022.
Oh! Jeremy Corbyn.
https://politica.elpais.com/politica/2017/11/12/actualidad/1510492625_447115.html
Those expecting Jeremy Corbyn to comport himself at the next general election with all the dignity, competence, and elan of a man who has just accidentally inserted his penis and scrotum into a hornets’ nest might be surprised at just how well Corbyn does at the next general election, in the past year nobody has become rich by underestimating Jeremy Corbyn.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/08/30/in-praise-of-jeremy-corbyn/
It is especially important at a time when Trump is potus that we put down a marker to say that in this country at least there are limits to how big an arse you can be and remain in high office. May should sack him this week.
It may become the worst government in our post war history but that would not stop Corbyn leading it.
That is an I wouldn't have started from here point.
If Jezza hadn't been leader then whoever it had been would have campaigned strongly for Remain, the Referendum would have been Remain, there would have been no GE, and we would all be throwing our hands up in horror at the pasty tax debacle today.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/the-saudi-crown-princes-power-grab-follows-a-strongmans-playbook/2017/11/09/167d35fe-c593-11e7-84bc-5e285c7f4512_story.html
That will not apply next time.
During PMQs, Jeremy Corbyn often displays the anguish of a man with a bumblebee trapped under his foreskin
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/09/07/if-corbyn-wants-to-win-the-confidence-of-labour-mps-he-needs-to-improve-his-performance-in-the-commons/
#NotObsessedWithCorbynsTodger
#FreudWillHaveAFieldDay
The best comparison is 1992, I think. A significant period of Tory government, but a relatively new leader.
It took about 6-7 months for Labour (now under Smith) to achieve double digit leads.
That means the New Year for Corbyn (no new leader there of course).
Yet.
Winning governments retain a certain level of confidence, for a while. Backers can't justify switching.
Then something comes along - Black Wednesday, the Omnishambles, etc, when the penny drops. To a very large extent, the drop itself is inevitable, it's the timing that's up for grabs.
"As we're seeing in other countries, people don't always vote on a predictable left-right scale, and sometimes they vote for a style instead. I think he'll find it difficult to win a majority, but he has a style USP that his opponents generally lack which will make him do better than expected."
A week later, Gallup had Labour 22% ahead.
Both were outliers. At that point the real gap was teens.
Have to walk the dog fairly shortly so may have to come back to it.
But this does seem extraordinary from her and for all the world they seem the words of a fucking idiot.
Neither May nor any of her putative successors - except possibly JRM - could credibly present themselves as anti-establishment figures.
Other voters? Not so much. I bet they don't register at all with 90%+ of voters. And when they do, it takes a week or two for that to seep into the general consciousness. They were still on the Labour-will-get-hammered-vote-how-you-like memo......
Davis, council house raised and state educated and son of a single mother, is more non establishment by background than both, if slightly more moderate by ideology
I challenged a "lost" bet with Ladbrokes recently, they paid out about 15 minutes after my chat
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/reasons-to-be-cheerful-with-ed-miliband-and-geoff-lloyd/id1287081706?mt=2&i=1000394720136
Is the blog itself for people to decide for themselves.
I don't think it looks as bad as Guido makes out.
Quite why she decided to write that blog though I have no idea.
Anyway, got to go walk the hound now.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2007/may/02/communities.conservativeparty1
"The 35-year-old Bailey wears many hats. He is a local, born and bred on the deprived estates of north Kensington."
Trump was establishment: rich, well connected, dad was a major property developer, friends with Clintons and bankers etc etc. But he managed to appear as if he just walked out of a redneck bar somewhere in the swamps of Louisiana.
They're trying it on with you, and have gone sharply downhill since the merger I think.
In pretty much every treaty that we enter into, we accept binding dispute resolution. So, our membership of NATO leads us to accept rulings of the NATO court. Our membership of the International Telecoms Union binds us to accept the rulings of their dispute resolution mechanisms.
There is nothing unusual in us signing up to a foreign body for dispute resolution.
The question is one of scope. We are used, in the UK, the ECJ having the ability to have a major impact on domestic law. It needn't be like that. Theoretically, we could enter into a treaty with the EU that made us members of the European Medicines Agency, and meant that we accepted rulings of the ECJ in respect to medicines manufacture. The ECJ could rule on other stuff as they liked, but the treaties (and more importantly UK law) would simply not recognise them as having any impact on the UK.
I get the feeling the "no ECJ" rule was lazily tossed out, and now it can't be walked back.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5077183/Christian-teacher-suspended-calling-trans-boy-girl.html