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She has played a blinder todayRichard_Nabavi said:Good lord, she managed to bat it off.
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Someone tried to give Mrs May her p45, from Boris.rottenborough said:what the hell just happened?
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I have always wanted to fly a seaplane (not fly in one - fly one). As much runway as you need and no crosswind.Cyclefree said:On the aviation theme, I recently flew in a 1953 De Havilland Beaver seaplane over the coast of Vancouver Island.
Absolutely brilliant!
I am glad you enjoyed it
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Ah it was Lee Nelson.0
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???Richard_Nabavi said:Good lord, she managed to bat it off.
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How the feck did CCHQ allow someone that close to the PM?0
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lol the conspiracy people on twitter think her camp organised that stunt so that it would get the people in the audience to back her.0
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How did he get a security pass and so close?TheScreamingEagles said:Ah it was Lee Nelson.
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Who is that?TheScreamingEagles said:Ah it was Lee Nelson.
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Imagine if that was someone who wanted to do actual harm to the PM...TheScreamingEagles said:How the feck did CCHQ allow someone that close to the PM?
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I presume Lee Nelson has a new tour to promote?0
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A comedian (sic)Richard_Nabavi said:
Who is that?TheScreamingEagles said:Ah it was Lee Nelson.
This is one of his past stunts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pqO6tK8_Wg
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Almost certainly someone with an official/media pass, I recon.TheScreamingEagles said:How the feck did CCHQ allow someone that close to the PM?
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Oh no, her voice is going.0
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Comic chav character (real name Simon Brodkin, think Ali G to Sacha Baron Cohen) infamous for pranks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_BrodkinRichard_Nabavi said:
Who is that?TheScreamingEagles said:Ah it was Lee Nelson.
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The quiet woman is turning up the volume.0
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This is turning into a fucking disaster.0
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More water for the stage...0
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I feel sorry for her, this is embarrassing.0
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I think they were the ones. Based in Tofino. The day we went we started with a walk in Long Beach - with sea mist eventually rising to reveal a gloriously sunny day - and then flew in the afternoon. Looking over the coast and inlets with the sun glinting on the water was an unmissable experience.FrancisUrquhart said:
Harbour Air Seaplanes?Cyclefree said:On the aviation theme, I recently flew in a 1953 De Havilland Beaver seaplane over the coast of Vancouver Island.
Absolutely brilliant!
I have never before been to that part of Canada but it is an amazingly beautiful country. And one I can’t wait to revisit.0 -
Can you get those if you're a second rate comedian these days ?Pong said:
Almost certainly someone with an official/media pass, I recon.TheScreamingEagles said:How the feck did CCHQ allow someone that close to the PM?
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This is a disaster.0
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Vancouver Island is one of my favourite places in the world.Cyclefree said:
I think they were the ones. Based in Tofino. The day we went we started with a walk in Long Beach - with sea mist eventually rising to reveal a gloriously sunny day - and then flew in the afternoon. Looking over the coast and inlets with the sun glinting on the water was an unmissable experience.FrancisUrquhart said:
Harbour Air Seaplanes?Cyclefree said:On the aviation theme, I recently flew in a 1953 De Havilland Beaver seaplane over the coast of Vancouver Island.
Absolutely brilliant!
I have never before been to that part of Canada but it is an amazingly beautiful country. And one I can’t wait to revisit.0 -
Oh dear oh dear
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Apparently a lot of colds going around the conference.0
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What an amazing eventful speech - she has won them over completely0
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What a roller coaster this is turning into.
The cough may give me my 8 min ovation if she makes to the end!!!!0 -
He has managed to get passes for all sorts of things in the past, from FIFA to right up close to Trump.Pulpstar said:
Can you get those if you're a second rate comedian these days ?Pong said:
Almost certainly someone with an official/media pass, I recon.TheScreamingEagles said:How the feck did CCHQ allow someone that close to the PM?
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I refer to my previous comment!rottenborough said:Will she make it to the end of the speech?
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What a bizarre few minutes. I imagine it will generate a lot of sympathy for her, but this is anything but strong or stable.0
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There are no Iraqi tanks in Baghdad.Big_G_NorthWales said:What an amazing eventful speech - she has won them over completely
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Not sure I have ever seen this happen before to a major pol.0
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Hope someone will be timing the standing ovation at the end0
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Hold on - don't do the 8 mins now!!0
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I can't watch...anyone want to summarise?0
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I think that was a joke Cameron used to make about Miliband.Richard_Nabavi said:Good lord, she managed to bat it off.
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That cough and the P45 could derail this. I thought she was doing ok - but it is easy to paint a picture. The crowd is clapping her like the slowest runner in a marathon.0
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I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).
Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?0 -
I've got my stopwatch ready (well the stopwatch on my phone)MikeSmithson said:Hope someone will be timing the standing ovation at the end
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started strongly, got knocked off course, but ploughing on...Casino_Royale said:I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).
Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?0 -
It was Cameron/one nation in content, but was derailed by the 'comedian' and her voice going.Casino_Royale said:I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).
Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?0 -
Started well. Quite personal. A few jokes. Protester arrives with P45. More jokes. Then coughing for England...Casino_Royale said:I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).
Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?0 -
Maybe I am naive but I think both the P45 stunt and her soldiering on with the bad throat might play well with party members.
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I feel really sorry for May. That cough is what will hit the headlines, that and the interloper. She had some good things to say as well.0
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The conference was boring and flat until now0
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STRONG AND STABLE0
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She started well - an apology and list of various achievements (mostly Camerons). Said "This is what I'm here for" or words to that effect. Some small announcements. Middle part P45, Bob Fleming from Fast Show and pity. Needs to end well.Casino_Royale said:I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).
Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?0 -
I am optimistic on the ovation front. It certainly aint gonna be a quick 30 secs.jonny83 said:Maybe I am naive but I think both the P45 stunt and her soldiering on with the bad throat might play well with party members.
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Will Boris finish reading the speech?0
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Good lord - you'd think a politician of her experience would have heard of Vocalzones...0
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Maybe but most people give no quarter. What a shame. It makes me feel sorry for her but it is far from the Iron Lady image people look for.jonny83 said:Maybe I am naive but I think both the P45 stunt and her soldiering on with the bad throat might play well with party members.
The market should be how long she will be in tears for with Mr May after she gets off stage, very very sadly.0 -
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Some really angry MP's that are not very happy that security didn't stop that P45 stunt.0
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He's actually Simon Brodkin, he's given his real name. Lee Nelson is a stage name.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
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I feel sorry for Mrs May, that's how bad it is.0
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This is the worst speech by a party leader to conference since the debacle of IDS' Turning up the Volume speech. (No, Jeremy Corbyn) - I mean really! The couching doesn't help but I am not going to blame her for that. It really is a poor poor speech. Surely the knives have got to be out after this.0
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Thanks. So it will be remembered solely for the protestor now, then.rottenborough said:
Started well. Quite personal. A few jokes. Protester arrives with P45. More jokes. Then coughing for England...Casino_Royale said:I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).
Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?
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Some politicians are really lucky, others...not so much.
If something could go wrong for PM Brown, it is more than likely did. It seems the same for Kim Jong May.0 -
haven't looked presumably markets (betting) odds are tanking in favour of Boris?Pong said:0 -
...surely we're looking at the end of Mays career here? Not seen a speech so poor.
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Get Boris in now. May is not up to it.0
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No, he's history. It will be remember for years as the 'coughing fit speech'Casino_Royale said:
Thanks. So it will be remembered solely for the protestor now, then.rottenborough said:
Started well. Quite personal. A few jokes. Protester arrives with P45. More jokes. Then coughing for England...Casino_Royale said:I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).
Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?
Great.
It will strike terror into any front rank politician. What if it happened to me???0 -
As a polite way of excusing oneself for an hour to go and earn some moneyNigelb said:
In what way is spin recovery OT ?Sandpit said:
Ha, well done. I’m sure P1 didn’t want to get killed either. 800’ doesn’t give you a lot of time or options, lots of ‘eventualities’ to consider there. Better to look out and watch the ASI during the launch, and react correctly to a failed launch in the first place.Beverley_C said:
I refused an 800ft spin entry from an instructor in a glider once. Apparently things got heated enough that they overheard us from the launch point below.Sandpit said:
In gliders we practice spins from 1,000’ - the spin following a failed winch launch is what kills people. Easily dealt with if well trained though, even if you have a horrible view for a few seconds.Dura_Ace said:
The best advice I ever got on spins was from my Hawk instructor: if it's still spinning at 10,000 feet get out of it and take your ground posting like a man,Beverley_C said:
I did a lot of glider flying at one point and spin practice was mandatory - especially in a Puchacz. Seeing nothing but the ground in front of you and approaching at 100kts was "interesting". It really made you lean back in your seat
I was always glad to get above the 300ft - 400ft point on winch launches. I reserved my polebending for the final phases.
We’re way, way off topic for a politics blog!
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Poor woman. No-one deserves that.0
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Arguably, this is a pointless comment, *but* it will look like nothing is going to happen until (and if) it does, and then it will be happen and all be over very quickly.ExpatMalaysia said:This is the worst speech by a party leader to conference since the debacle of IDS' Turning up the Volume speech. (No, Jeremy Corbyn) - I mean really! The couching doesn't help but I am not going to blame her for that. It really is a poor poor speech. Surely the knives have got to be out after this.
Then, afterwards, it will look like it was an inevitability.0 -
This is where I am sure Cameron would have come out with an off-script gag...
https://twitter.com/daily_politics/status/9155347712996556800 -
ok So she had a cold and there was a protestor.
What about the CONTENT though.
Anything on council housing/tuition fees ?
Any tax breaks for hard pressed PAYErs
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Did they think she'd finished back there ?
Ovation started for a good 30secs & then she ploughed on, coughing.0 -
They are giving her big ovations she can recover her voice and drink water.Nigelb said:Did they think she'd finished back there ?
Ovation started for a good 30secs & then she ploughed on, coughing.
Tragic.0 -
What's the big policy announcement then?
Please don't tell me it's an energy price cap and council houses.0 -
Crap speech with crap delivery made by a crap prime minister from a crap party with crap policies at a crap conference with crap security.
IT'S ALL CRAP.0 -
Remember the Charles Kennedy speech at a Lib Dem conference. It presaged his departure.rottenborough said:
No, he's history. It will be remember for years as the 'coughing fit speech'Casino_Royale said:
Thanks. So it will be remembered solely for the protestor now, then.rottenborough said:
Started well. Quite personal. A few jokes. Protester arrives with P45. More jokes. Then coughing for England...Casino_Royale said:I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).
Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?
Great.
It will strike terror into any front rank politician. What if it happened to me???0 -
May is not a lucky General, that's for sure.0
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Depends on which soundbites get the play later on, I suspect.Razedabode said:...surely we're looking at the end of Mays career here? Not seen a speech so poor.
If the BBC were to lead with 30 seconds of coughing....0 -
Poor, cough, waffle, cough. The quiet man with a cough! Uninspiring and unbelievable...Casino_Royale said:I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).
Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?0 -
Predictable commentPong said:Crap speech with crap delivery made by a crap prime minister from a crap party with crap policies at a crap conference with crap security.
IT'S ALL CRAP.0 -
Yes - but the speech was POOR regardless of the coughing! She is a poor speaker.rottenborough said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXmQdi9pwDA0 -
No, I think they genuinely thought (were hoping) she was done for a moment...TheScreamingEagles said:
They are giving her big ovations she can recover her voice and drink water.Nigelb said:Did they think she'd finished back there ?
Ovation started for a good 30secs & then she ploughed on, coughing.
Tragic.0 -
Yes, I'm sure that's objective.OchEye said:
Poor, cough, waffle, cough. The quiet man with a cough! Uninspiring and unbelievable...Casino_Royale said:I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).
Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?
Perhaps I should come back to pb.com after we've all stopped being in spinning mode.0 -
Didn't that also happen to Sir Ming Campbell?slade said:
Remember the Charles Kennedy speech at a Lib Dem conference. It presaged his departure.rottenborough said:
No, he's history. It will be remember for years as the 'coughing fit speech'Casino_Royale said:
Thanks. So it will be remembered solely for the protestor now, then.rottenborough said:
Started well. Quite personal. A few jokes. Protester arrives with P45. More jokes. Then coughing for England...Casino_Royale said:I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).
Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?
Great.
It will strike terror into any front rank politician. What if it happened to me???0 -
The level of security at the conference bodes well for the new six counties border.0
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Hillary Clinton had some bad coughing fits at election rallies last year but I've never seen this in a big set-piece speech.0
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This is the issue.Casino_Royale said:
Yes, I'm sure that's objective.OchEye said:
Poor, cough, waffle, cough. The quiet man with a cough! Uninspiring and unbelievable...Casino_Royale said:I haven't seen or heard any of TM speech (not sure I can bear it).
Can someone please try to be objective and give me a two-three sentence summary?
Perhaps I should come back to pb.com after we've all stopped being in spinning mode.
https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/status/9155390879977676810 -
Agreed.SouthamObserver said:Poor woman. No-one deserves that.
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She's just socked it to Andrea Leadsom.0
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Sympathy.rottenborough said:
I am optimistic on the ovation front. It certainly aint gonna be a quick 30 secs.jonny83 said:Maybe I am naive but I think both the P45 stunt and her soldiering on with the bad throat might play well with party members.
But leadership election now more likely.0 -
That's the bit where it says 'pause for coughing' ?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
I missed that, what happened?TheScreamingEagles said:She's just socked it to Andrea Leadsom.
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"For cough" said BoJo (At least that's what it sounded like).
Has May whispered her resignation yet?0 -
Talked about not having children, made Andrea Leadsom look like a callous person.Philip_Thompson said:
I missed that, what happened?TheScreamingEagles said:She's just socked it to Andrea Leadsom.
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