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Lucky then that neither IDS nor anyone else wants to force marriage or children on people who don't want it.The_Apocalypse said:@foxinsoxuk Agree with your last point, but I’m not sure about your point that some men not wanting marriage is symptom of a lack of stake in society. If we go by the YouGov figures there are more women out there that don’t want to get married than men!
@Richard Nabavi Not all those who aren’t keen on marriage are those with children. Some don’t want marriage and children.0 -
True, and that's absolutely fine, of course. Statistically they are likely to be less happy and less healthy, both physically and mentally, than those in stable marriages, but it's entirely up to them, and I certainly would never criticise such a choice. Marriage isn't for everyone.The_Apocalypse said:@Richard Nabavi Not all those who aren’t keen on marriage are those with children. Some don’t want marriage and children.
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That Ben Bradley is quite impressive.0
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P1 was convinced that we were fine. I was not and I just asserted that since I was effectively PIC then the aircraft was going to do what I wanted so I landed and told him to get out and launched on my own.Sandpit said:
Ha, well done. I’m sure P1 didn’t want to get killed either. 800’ doesn’t give you a lot of time or options, lots of ‘eventualities’ to consider there. Better to look out and watch the ASI during the launch, and react correctly to a failed launch in the first place.Beverley_C said:
I refused an 800ft spin entry from an instructor in a glider once. Apparently things got heated enough that they overheard us from the launch point below.Sandpit said:
In gliders we practice spins from 1,000’ - the spin following a failed winch launch is what kills people. Easily dealt with if well trained though, even if you have a horrible view for a few seconds.Dura_Ace said:
The best advice I ever got on spins was from my Hawk instructor: if it's still spinning at 10,000 feet get out of it and take your ground posting like a man,Beverley_C said:
I did a lot of glider flying at one point and spin practice was mandatory - especially in a Puchacz. Seeing nothing but the ground in front of you and approaching at 100kts was "interesting". It really made you lean back in your seat
I was always glad to get above the 300ft - 400ft point on winch launches. I reserved my polebending for the final phases.
It is a massive improvement on Tory leader elections or BrexitSandpit said:We’re way, way off topic for a politics blog!
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Sadly some of us find out that marriage isn't for everyone after we get married.Richard_Nabavi said:
True, and that's absolutely fine, of course. Statistically they are likely to be less happy and less healthy, both physically and mentally, than those in stable marriages, but it's entirely up to them, and I certainly would never criticise such a choice. Marriage isn't for everyone.The_Apocalypse said:@Richard Nabavi Not all those who aren’t keen on marriage are those with children. Some don’t want marriage and children.
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Ah, that's the suboptimal way round!TheScreamingEagles said:
Sadly some of us find out that marriage isn't for everyone after we get married.Richard_Nabavi said:
True, and that's absolutely fine, of course. Statistically they are likely to be less happy and less healthy, both physically and mentally, than those in stable marriages, but it's entirely up to them, and I certainly would never criticise such a choice. Marriage isn't for everyone.The_Apocalypse said:@Richard Nabavi Not all those who aren’t keen on marriage are those with children. Some don’t want marriage and children.
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It means that one is horror of horrors, judgemental, in saying that some forms of family life produce better outcomes than others.Richard_Nabavi said:
Why are you inventing things which have absolutely zero to do with what IDS says?Beverley_C said:
Really? What is next? That women are holding jobs that blokes should be doing? That we should all be housewives to ensure our children are not neglected and the breadwinner comes home to a warm fire, slippers and his dinner on the table? Should we return to A-line dresses and petticoats?
IDS might be pining for the 1950s, most of us are not.
This is part of the underlying issue - we can't have a sensible debate on the massive problems caused by family breakdown because it's a taboo subject amongst many, for some bizarre reason.
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Which algorithm do we think has been installed in MayBot this morning?
Sounds like it may be a fork of the Miliband program.0 -
Sorry but when politicians start suggesting that lack of marriage is the problem that implies that marriage is the cure. And who are these young men supposed to get married to? Other "problem" young men? No. Apparently they are supposed to find some woman somewhere and marry her.Richard_Nabavi said:
Why are you inventing things which have absolutely zero to do with what IDS says?Beverley_C said:
Really? What is next? That women are holding jobs that blokes should be doing? That we should all be housewives to ensure our children are not neglected and the breadwinner comes home to a warm fire, slippers and his dinner on the table? Should we return to A-line dresses and petticoats?
IDS might be pining for the 1950s, most of us are not.
This is part of the underlying issue - we can't have a sensible debate on the massive problems caused by family breakdown because it's a taboo subject amongst many, for some bizarre reason.
I do not like being seen as the "cure" for someone else's problems. It is only in the last 100 years that women have stopped being "property" and chattels. So yes - I am touchy about it.0 -
I can't wait.....rottenborough said:Which algorithm do we think has been installed in MayBot this morning?
Sounds like it may be a fork of the Miliband program.0 -
I hope some availed themselves of the 28-1 on Emily a couple of months ago after she deputised for Mr Corbyn at PMQs.
This interested me with regards to the next Tory leader market.Gavin Williamson is best-priced at 66-1 in 3 places.I'm adding him to my portfolio of Johnson(Jo) at 100-1.
https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/observations/2017/07/gavin-williamson-cunning-tory-chief-whip-tarantula-his-desk0 -
Blimey, who'd have thought so many glider pilots on PB! Did all my training in a Blanik - built like a tank and span (and recovered) beautifully.Beverley_C said:
I did quite a few in K13s, but I could never get the K21 to spin with me solo. The loading was too light. It generally just wound up in a spiral dive and I give up when the g-meter recorded 4.2g on the pullout.Sandpit said:
The Puch was horrible to spin, like the DG505 it takes a couple of turns to come out even when you’ve got the recovery spot on. K13 and G103 much better for check flights!Beverley_C said:
I did a lot of glider flying at one point and spin practice was mandatory - especially in a Puchacz. Seeing nothing but the ground in front of you and approaching at 100kts was "interesting". It really made you lean back in your seatDura_Ace said:
They only spin it in the sim - it's highly departure resistant. I've spun a Bulldog when I was in my UAS and decided that was enough spinning for the rest of my aviation career.Beverley_C said:
I would not mind a little bunt around in a Typhoon, but no spin practiceSandpit said:
Good it was nothing serious, another practice sortie for the QRA who keep us all safe.Beverley_C said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41495677Sandpit said:
It’s always Stansted or Prestwick if there’s a ‘problem’. Airports designated for such occurrences.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Stansted not LutonBig_G_NorthWales said:Two RAF typhoon fighter jets escort a Ryanair jet into Luton
Reports of sonic booms over Norfolk and Suffolk, so whatever it is the QRA got permission to be extra ‘Q’ this morning.
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LOL, well done.Beverley_C said:
P1 was convinced that we were fine. I was not and I just asserted that since I was effectively PIC then the aircraft was going to do what I wanted so I landed and told him to get out and launched on my own.Sandpit said:
Ha, well done. I’m sure P1 didn’t want to get killed either. 800’ doesn’t give you a lot of time or options, lots of ‘eventualities’ to consider there. Better to look out and watch the ASI during the launch, and react correctly to a failed launch in the first place.Beverley_C said:
I refused an 800ft spin entry from an instructor in a glider once. Apparently things got heated enough that they overheard us from the launch point below.Sandpit said:
In gliders we practice spins from 1,000’ - the spin following a failed winch launch is what kills people. Easily dealt with if well trained though, even if you have a horrible view for a few seconds.Dura_Ace said:
The best advice I ever got on spins was from my Hawk instructor: if it's still spinning at 10,000 feet get out of it and take your ground posting like a man,Beverley_C said:
I did a lot of glider flying at one point and spin practice was mandatory - especially in a Puchacz. Seeing nothing but the ground in front of you and approaching at 100kts was "interesting". It really made you lean back in your seat
I was always glad to get above the 300ft - 400ft point on winch launches. I reserved my polebending for the final phases.
It is a massive improvement on Tory leader elections or BrexitSandpit said:We’re way, way off topic for a politics blog!
Yes, way more fun than Brexit or leadership, you and I will disagree all day on that!! 0 -
They are supposed to get married to women, assuming they can find someone suitable whom they love, (or nowadays, to other men in some cases), to the mutual benefit of both partners, and most especially to any children. Nothing to get touchy about: just look at the mountain of statistical evidence.Beverley_C said:Sorry but when politicians start suggesting that lack of marriage is the problem that implies that marriage is the cure. And who are these young men supposed to get married to? Other "problem" young men? No. Apparently they are supposed to find some woman somewhere and marry her.
I do not like being seen as the "cure" for someone else's problems. IT is only in the last 100 years that women have stopped being "property" and chattels. So yes - I am touchy about it.0 -
For PB's pissheads drinkers.
Waitrose has launched a range of half bottles of wine to target middle-class midweek drinkers.
The supermarket said its new line of own-label wines, which provide the equivalent of two large glasses of wine, are the ideal portion size for a couple enjoying a "midweek evening meal".
It is believed to be the first time a major UK supermarket has sold half bottles of own-label wine to discourage consumers from opening a larger bottle.
It comes after numerous studies have warned that a "wine o'clock" culture among the middle-classes is fueling a rise people drinking too much alcohol.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/03/waitrose-launches-half-bottles-wine-mid-week-drinkers/0 -
The EU is referring Ireland to the ECJ over 13 billion of unpaid tax by Apple
Sure that will cement relationships between Dublin and Brussels
To all those who think the EU is so wonderful how can they justify them meddling in sovereign Nations tax affairs0 -
Benpointer said:
Blimey, who'd have thought so many glider pilots on PB! Did all my training in a Blanik - built like a tank and span (and recovered) beautifully.Beverley_C said:
I did quite a few in K13s, but I could never get the K21 to spin with me solo. The loading was too light. It generally just wound up in a spiral dive and I give up when the g-meter recorded 4.2g on the pullout.Sandpit said:
The Puch was horrible to spin, like the DG505 it takes a couple of turns to come out even when you’ve got the recovery spot on. K13 and G103 much better for check flights!Beverley_C said:
I did a lot of glider flying at one point and spin practice was mandatory - especially in a Puchacz. Seeing nothing but the ground in front of you and approaching at 100kts was "interesting". It really made you lean back in your seatDura_Ace said:
They only spin it in the sim - it's highly departure resistant. I've spun a Bulldog when I was in my UAS and decided that was enough spinning for the rest of my aviation career.Beverley_C said:
I would not mind a little bunt around in a Typhoon, but no spin practiceSandpit said:
Good it was nothing serious, another practice sortie for the QRA who keep us all safe.Beverley_C said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41495677Sandpit said:
It’s always Stansted or Prestwick if there’s a ‘problem’. Airports designated for such occurrences.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Stansted not LutonBig_G_NorthWales said:Two RAF typhoon fighter jets escort a Ryanair jet into Luton
Reports of sonic booms over Norfolk and Suffolk, so whatever it is the QRA got permission to be extra ‘Q’ this morning. I flew both L-23s and L-13s. Noisey on the ground run 0 -
Reason why she has to go #43424rottenborough said:
If a Leader of a Party, let alone a PM, can't generate excitement at her own Party Conference then what is the point?0 -
Come to PB instead - exciting aviation based conversations are happening!rottenborough said:0 -
I'm getting excited by Ben Bradley and Paul Masterton.Philip_Thompson said:
Reason why she has to go #43424rottenborough said:
If a Leader of a Party, let alone a PM, can't generate excitement at her own Party Conference then what is the point?
A lot of potential here.0 -
Of course these days, in a bar or pub, a "large" glass is 250ml = 1/3 or a bottle so not quite two large glasses. Which is of course a good thing.TheScreamingEagles said:For PB's pissheads drinkers.
Waitrose has launched a range of half bottles of wine to target middle-class midweek drinkers.
The supermarket said its new line of own-label wines, which provide the equivalent of two large glasses of wine, are the ideal portion size for a couple enjoying a "midweek evening meal".
It is believed to be the first time a major UK supermarket has sold half bottles of own-label wine to discourage consumers from opening a larger bottle.
It comes after numerous studies have warned that a "wine o'clock" culture among the middle-classes is fueling a rise people drinking too much alcohol.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/03/waitrose-launches-half-bottles-wine-mid-week-drinkers/0 -
If you're not going to engage with the issue seriously, what is the point?Beverley_C said:
Really? What is next? That women are holding jobs that blokes should be doing? That we should all be housewives to ensure our children are not neglected and the breadwinner comes home to a warm fire, slippers and his dinner on the table? Should we return to A-line dresses and petticoats?Mortimer said:
I'd agree with that almost entirely.foxinsoxuk said:
IDS is rather like Ed Miliband in that he is far better at identifying problems than coming up with solutions.The_Apocalypse said:
The ‘unmarried men’ are a problem message is something I always associated by and large with the American right. It would often be commentators from the American Right that I’d see saying as such (from my Twitter feed). Then again I’m not surprised that someone like IDS is agreeing with them. He’s pretty right wing, after all.Pong said:
Urgh.The_Apocalypse said:Has anyone seen what IDS has said about unmarried men?http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_59d3b8f9e4b04b9f92054af5/amp?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004
This is the brexiteers binge.
The ultimate failure of dave's detox.
The Conservative party in its current ideological configuration cannot win another election.
I am much in agreement with his analysis of young men and their alienation from society. Where he falls down is not being tough on the causes. Marriage is a symptom of lack of stake in society, not its answer.
IDS might be pining for the 1950s, most of us are not.0 -
What time is her speech?0
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They are saying a big return for council house building - that sounds to me like a very good idea.
It's a start on correcting the mistakes made by past Labour and Tory governments.0 -
Blimey
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson was on the verge of resigning this past summer amid mounting policy disputes and clashes with the White House, according to multiple senior administration officials who were aware of the situation at the time.
The tensions came to a head around the time President Donald Trump delivered a politicized speech in late July to the Boy Scouts of America, an organization Tillerson once led, the officials said.
Just days earlier, Tillerson had openly disparaged the president, referring to him as a “moron,” after a July 20 meeting at the Pentagon with members of Trump’s national security team and Cabinet officials, according to three officials familiar with the incident.
While it's unclear if he was aware of the incident, Vice President Mike Pence counseled Tillerson, who is fourth in line to the presidency, on ways to ease tensions with Trump, and other top administration officials urged him to remain in the job at least until the end of the year, officials said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/tillerson-s-fury-trump-required-intervention-pence-n8064510 -
I said he wouldn't last a year.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Shortly i believe.Philip_Thompson said:What time is her speech?
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About now 11.30Philip_Thompson said:What time is her speech?
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Cabinet been shown to their seats.
Don't trip over your daggers guys.0 -
If the Tories were to lose just two by elections it would only require the DUP to abstain for the Government to be vulnerable to a No Confidence vote.Barnesian said:
The odds on Betfair on Corbyn still being in place in 2020 is about 60% probability (compared with about 12% for May). That seems a bit low for both of them.tlg86 said:My guess is that if there’s no earlier election he will have stood down before them.
I disagree - he'll only go if his health fails and I reckon he's in quite good shape.
If May stays as leader then I don't think there will be an early GE. If she is replaced, then I think the parliamentary Tory party will not be able to hold together sufficiently to prevent an early election. That's why it is unlikely she will be replaced until after 2020. They'll just soldier on.0 -
As an occasional lurker, I am wondering if anyone here sees any parallels between Gordon Brown and Theresa May as PM?
Both are facing issues that are bigger than they can manage - Brexit, Global Financial Crisis (and possibly bigger than any can manage).
Both have lost control of the domestic agenda because of the all-encompassing nature of this issue - anyone recall Eco-towns, British jobs for British workers? Now May with council housing and student fee freezes?
Both have lost some control of the idealogues and leadership plotters in their cabinet. They are both attempting to buy them off with red meat.
I suppose one key difference is the fact that Brown didn't go for the snap election and May did.
Also is Boris Johnson Sirte line the equivalent of the David Milliband banana photo?
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It doesn't surprise me a lot of men don't want to get married. If the woman decides she doesn't fancy it anymore she can tell you to bugger off and keep the house and stop you seeing the kids.0
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That's just the rivets settling into their seats for the flightBeverley_C said:Benpointer said:
Blimey, who'd have thought so many glider pilots on PB! Did all my training in a Blanik - built like a tank and span (and recovered) beautifully.Beverley_C said:
I did quite a few in K13s, but I could never get the K21 to spin with me solo. The loading was too light. It generally just wound up in a spiral dive and I give up when the g-meter recorded 4.2g on the pullout.Sandpit said:
The Puch was horrible to spin, like the DG505 it takes a couple of turns to come out even when you’ve got the recovery spot on. K13 and G103 much better for check flights!Beverley_C said:
I did a lot of glider flying at one point and spin practice was mandatory - especially in a Puchacz. Seeing nothing but the ground in front of you and approaching at 100kts was "interesting". It really made you lean back in your seatDura_Ace said:
They only spin it in the sim - it's highly departure resistant. I've spun a Bulldog when I was in my UAS and decided that was enough spinning for the rest of my aviation career.Beverley_C said:
I would not mind a little bunt around in a Typhoon, but no spin practiceSandpit said:
Good it was nothing serious, another practice sortie for the QRA who keep us all safe.Beverley_C said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41495677Sandpit said:
It’s always Stansted or Prestwick if there’s a ‘problem’. Airports designated for such occurrences.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Stansted not LutonBig_G_NorthWales said:Two RAF typhoon fighter jets escort a Ryanair jet into Luton
Reports of sonic booms over Norfolk and Suffolk, so whatever it is the QRA got permission to be extra ‘Q’ this morning. I flew both L-23s and L-13s. Noisey on the ground run
The time to get worried with a Blanik is when there's no creaking because it probably means you've forgotten to put the wings on!0 -
Mr. Lurker, welcome to pb.com.
There are definitely some similarities in their political fortunes. May, however, screwed up her election campaign far more than Brown did.0 -
welcome to the mad house :-)Jim_the_Lurker said:As an occasional lurker, I am wondering if anyone here sees any parallels between Gordon Brown and Theresa May as PM?
Both are facing issues that are bigger than they can manage - Brexit, Global Financial Crisis (and possibly bigger than any can manage).
Both have lost control of the domestic agenda because of the all-encompassing nature of this issue - anyone recall Eco-towns, British jobs for British workers? Now May with council housing and student fee freezes?
Both have lost some control of the idealogues and leadership plotters in their cabinet. They are both attempting to buy them off with red meat.
I suppose one key difference is the fact that Brown didn't go for the snap election and May did.
Also is Boris Johnson Sirte line the equivalent of the David Milliband banana photo?
Last point: no, i dont think so, as a photo can easily be reproduce over and over. The joke takes more effort to reproduce.
Plus, 99.5% of the population will have no idea where/what Sirte is.0 -
I can see why so many people see a glorious future for Kemi Badenoch0
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Some of us have been pointing out for over a year that Mrs May was a pound shop Gordon Brown.Jim_the_Lurker said:As an occasional lurker, I am wondering if anyone here sees any parallels between Gordon Brown and Theresa May as PM?
Both are facing issues that are bigger than they can manage - Brexit, Global Financial Crisis (and possibly bigger than any can manage).
Both have lost control of the domestic agenda because of the all-encompassing nature of this issue - anyone recall Eco-towns, British jobs for British workers? Now May with council housing and student fee freezes?
Both have lost some control of the idealogues and leadership plotters in their cabinet. They are both attempting to buy them off with red meat.
I suppose one key difference is the fact that Brown didn't go for the snap election and May did.
Also is Boris Johnson Sirte line the equivalent of the David Milliband banana photo?0 -
Absolutely. She is very engaging.TheScreamingEagles said:I can see why so many people see a glorious future for Kemi Badenoch
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Thanks for the welcome (I am a regular lurker).Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Lurker, welcome to pb.com.
There are definitely some similarities in their political fortunes. May, however, screwed up her election campaign far more than Brown did.
I think you are right that she made a hash of her snap election. *But* if she does keep going until the next election. Maybe, like Brown, she will be harder to shift than the opposition expect. She could even bring the band back together like Brown did.0 -
Switched from Sky talking to themselves to BBC Parliament and so impressed with her. One to watchMortimer said:
Absolutely. She is very engaging.TheScreamingEagles said:I can see why so many people see a glorious future for Kemi Badenoch
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Come on get May out. I have to go out shortly, and I don't want to miss this major speech 0
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If/when TM goes - it seems likely the Tories would want a change of direction.volcanopete said:I hope some availed themselves of the 28-1 on Emily a couple of months ago after she deputised for Mr Corbyn at PMQs.
This interested me with regards to the next Tory leader market.Gavin Williamson is best-priced at 66-1 in 3 places.I'm adding him to my portfolio of Johnson(Jo) at 100-1.
https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/observations/2017/07/gavin-williamson-cunning-tory-chief-whip-tarantula-his-desk
Choosing her Remainer chief of staff would be a strange move then.0 -
Presume most of us are purely interested in the length of the any ovation??rottenborough said:Come on get May out. I have to go out shortly, and I don't want to miss this major speech
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struggling to write this but evidently Brown was the wiser. He knew that 100% of power today is worth the XX% probability of power tomorrow bestowed via a GE (for all values of XX up to and including 99.9999%).Jim_the_Lurker said:As an occasional lurker, I am wondering if anyone here sees any parallels between Gordon Brown and Theresa May as PM?
Both are facing issues that are bigger than they can manage - Brexit, Global Financial Crisis (and possibly bigger than any can manage).
Both have lost control of the domestic agenda because of the all-encompassing nature of this issue - anyone recall Eco-towns, British jobs for British workers? Now May with council housing and student fee freezes?
Both have lost some control of the idealogues and leadership plotters in their cabinet. They are both attempting to buy them off with red meat.
I suppose one key difference is the fact that Brown didn't go for the snap election and May did.
Also is Boris Johnson Sirte line the equivalent of the David Milliband banana photo?0 -
Men working for the BBC earn an average of 9.3% more than women, an audit of the corporation's staff pay has found.
The audit covered rank-and-file staff rather than on-air presenters and senior managers.
The figure compares with a UK average of 18% and BBC director general Tony Hall said it showed the BBC was "in a better place than many organisations".
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41497265
The BBC motto really should be "we got it right".0 -
Will she make it to the end of the speech?0
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Catalonia will declare independence from Spain in a matter of days, the leader of the autonomous region has told the BBC.
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She’s very good.TheScreamingEagles said:I can see why so many people see a glorious future for Kemi Badenoch
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May starting well with the apology.0
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Is there a sweepstake on this?Benpointer said:
Presume most of us are purely interested in the length of the any ovation??rottenborough said:Come on get May out. I have to go out shortly, and I don't want to miss this major speech
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May has a chance of pulling this around, she's being very honest0
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Who wrote this speech?
"The british dream" is all wrong.0 -
Tone very good at present0
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There was. Although ovation at end I think. I had something mad like 8 minutes.dr_spyn said:
Is there a sweepstake on this?Benpointer said:
Presume most of us are purely interested in the length of the any ovation??rottenborough said:Come on get May out. I have to go out shortly, and I don't want to miss this major speech
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And in other news...In Corbynistan....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4947610/Venezuelan-baseball-gets-10million-country-starves.html0 -
The apology and a joke about George Osborne, she'll get quite the ovation.0
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Lol, sounds like the ‘50s K8, or the old wooden Ka6. If it’s not creaking you didn’t rig it right!Benpointer said:
That's just the rivets settling into their seats for the flightBeverley_C said:Benpointer said:
Blimey, who'd have thought so many glider pilots on PB! Did all my training in a Blanik - built like a tank and span (and recovered) beautifully.Beverley_C said:
I did quite a few in K13s, but I could never get the K21 to spin with me solo. The loading was too light. It generally just wound up in a spiral dive and I give up when the g-meter recorded 4.2g on the pullout.Sandpit said:
The Puch was horrible to spin, like the DG505 it takes a couple of turns to come out even when you’ve got the recovery spot on. K13 and G103 much better for check flights!Beverley_C said:
I did a lot of glider flying at one point and spin practice was mandatory - especially in a Puchacz. Seeing nothing but the ground in front of you and approaching at 100kts was "interesting". It really made you lean back in your seatDura_Ace said:
They only spin it in the sim - it's highly departure resistant. I've spun a Bulldog when I was in my UAS and decided that was enough spinning for the rest of my aviation career.Beverley_C said:
I would not mind a little bunt around in a Typhoon, but no spin practiceSandpit said:
Good it was nothing serious, another practice sortie for the QRA who keep us all safe.Beverley_C said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41495677Sandpit said:
It’s always Stansted or Prestwick if there’s a ‘problem’. Airports designated for such occurrences.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Stansted not LutonBig_G_NorthWales said:Two RAF typhoon fighter jets escort a Ryanair jet into Luton
Reports of sonic booms over Norfolk and Suffolk, so whatever it is the QRA got permission to be extra ‘Q’ this morning. I flew both L-23s and L-13s. Noisey on the ground run
The time to get worried with a Blanik is when there's no creaking because it probably means you've forgotten to put the wings on!0 -
That's a superb Osborne joke! (Did he suggest it, I wonder?)0
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Do keep in mind that I have been married for nearly 30 years. I am not against marriage per se, but marriage is not medicine / therapyRichard_Nabavi said:
They are supposed to get married to women, assuming they can find someone suitable whom they love, (or nowadays, to other men in some cases), to the mutual benefit of both partners, and most especially to any children. Nothing to get touchy about: just look at the mountain of statistical evidence.Beverley_C said:Sorry but when politicians start suggesting that lack of marriage is the problem that implies that marriage is the cure. And who are these young men supposed to get married to? Other "problem" young men? No. Apparently they are supposed to find some woman somewhere and marry her.
I do not like being seen as the "cure" for someone else's problems. IT is only in the last 100 years that women have stopped being "property" and chattels. So yes - I am touchy about it.0 -
May says her grandmother was a ladies’ maid, a servant.
She worked hard, and wanted her family to get on.
And her grandchildren include three professors and a prime minister.
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In what way is spin recovery OT ?Sandpit said:
Ha, well done. I’m sure P1 didn’t want to get killed either. 800’ doesn’t give you a lot of time or options, lots of ‘eventualities’ to consider there. Better to look out and watch the ASI during the launch, and react correctly to a failed launch in the first place.Beverley_C said:
I refused an 800ft spin entry from an instructor in a glider once. Apparently things got heated enough that they overheard us from the launch point below.Sandpit said:
In gliders we practice spins from 1,000’ - the spin following a failed winch launch is what kills people. Easily dealt with if well trained though, even if you have a horrible view for a few seconds.Dura_Ace said:
The best advice I ever got on spins was from my Hawk instructor: if it's still spinning at 10,000 feet get out of it and take your ground posting like a man,Beverley_C said:
I did a lot of glider flying at one point and spin practice was mandatory - especially in a Puchacz. Seeing nothing but the ground in front of you and approaching at 100kts was "interesting". It really made you lean back in your seat
I was always glad to get above the 300ft - 400ft point on winch launches. I reserved my polebending for the final phases.
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Never be the first to stop clapping...rottenborough said:
There was. Although ovation at end I think. I had something mad like 8 minutes.dr_spyn said:
Is there a sweepstake on this?Benpointer said:
Presume most of us are purely interested in the length of the any ovation??rottenborough said:Come on get May out. I have to go out shortly, and I don't want to miss this major speech
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Good on Mrs May. She is going to turn this around.0
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I have quite a bit of sympathy with IDS there.There is no justification for the State having to pick up the bill for absent fathers, and I wish to see them pursued relentlessly to meet their financial responsibilities to children. Unlike student tuition fees their liabilities should never be written off - even if they end up having deuctions from their State Pensions.Richard_Nabavi said:
He's actually making some very good points. Family breakdown is a major social issue:Pong said:
Urgh.The_Apocalypse said:Has anyone seen what IDS has said about unmarried men?http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_59d3b8f9e4b04b9f92054af5/amp?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004
This is the brexiteers binge.
The ultimate failure of dave's detox.
The Conservative party in its current ideological configuration cannot win another election.
“Cohabitation is a very different relationship from marriage,” he said. “It is inherently unstable.”
He went on: “The answer I think is because cohabitation suits one of the partners more than the other. Almost invariably it suits the man, because they have to make good on their commitment and when that commitment is facing them they then withdraw.”
Not much to disagree with there. Look at the number of households where the father has scarpered, leaving the mother, and society, to pick up the pieces. And on every measure, from educational attainment to mental health to physical health to financial stability to crime, children in those households are statistically much more likely to be heavily disadvantaged.
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Brown had a healthy majority, May had a slender one. Five years with a massive majority would have been more powerful than 3 years with a slender one.TOPPING said:
struggling to write this but evidently Brown was the wiser. He knew that 100% of power today is worth the XX% probability of power tomorrow bestowed via a GE (for all values of XX up to and including 99.9999%).Jim_the_Lurker said:As an occasional lurker, I am wondering if anyone here sees any parallels between Gordon Brown and Theresa May as PM?
Both are facing issues that are bigger than they can manage - Brexit, Global Financial Crisis (and possibly bigger than any can manage).
Both have lost control of the domestic agenda because of the all-encompassing nature of this issue - anyone recall Eco-towns, British jobs for British workers? Now May with council housing and student fee freezes?
Both have lost some control of the idealogues and leadership plotters in their cabinet. They are both attempting to buy them off with red meat.
I suppose one key difference is the fact that Brown didn't go for the snap election and May did.
Also is Boris Johnson Sirte line the equivalent of the David Milliband banana photo?
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Can't helping thinking that Cameron would have been more convincing with this script somehow.0
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What was it, I can't motivate myself to watch her.Richard_Nabavi said:That's a superb Osborne joke! (Did he suggest it, I wonder?)
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She always looks more Prime Ministerial compared to Boris. Boris has his 'Boris is Boris, Boris the Buffoon' act which is the only thing he can do. But she's fatally wounded.Big_G_NorthWales said:Very Prime Ministerial so far
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This dream is her story too, she says.TOPPING said:
What was it, I can't motivate myself to watch her.Richard_Nabavi said:That's a superb Osborne joke! (Did he suggest it, I wonder?)
She says people think she is not emotional.
She does not mind being called the ice maiden - “although perhaps George Osborne did take the analogy a little too far”.0 -
The speech sounds a bit valedictory at the moment.0
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Not necessarily. What is striking about Thornberry is that until she allied herself with Corbyn post 2015, there was next to nothing in her record that would suggest she would follow that course. Doing so has it turned out enabled her to climb the greasy pole with alacrity. Who knows what course she would seek to take the Labour Party on if she makes it to the top? Remember that Wilson and Kinnock also gained the leadership standing as the candidates of the left.rottenborough said:
McD would still be Chancellor under Thornberry. Let that sink in.TheScreamingEagles said:
Less terrifying than Corbyn and May as PM.MarqueeMark said:Just stand back a moment.
Emily Thornberry.
Prime Minister Emily Thornberry.
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v good. Def not one of her own.Richard_Nabavi said:
This dream is her story too, she says.TOPPING said:
What was it, I can't motivate myself to watch her.Richard_Nabavi said:That's a superb Osborne joke! (Did he suggest it, I wonder?)
She says people think she is not emotional.
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I think you will find she has just secured her position for the foreseable future, like it or notjonny83 said:
She always looks more Prime Ministerial compared to Boris. Boris has his 'Boris is Boris' act that he can only do. But she's fatally wounded.Big_G_NorthWales said:Very Prime Ministerial so far
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I suppose. But I doubt Red Len or Lansmans will allow her the leadership without guarantees on McD.Wulfrun_Phil said:
Not necessarily. What is striking about Thornberry is that until she allied herself with Corbyn post 2015, there was next to nothing in her record that would suggest she would follow that course. Doing so has it turned out enabled her to climb the greasy pole with alacrity. Who knows what course she would seek to take the Labour Party on if she makes it to the top? Remember that Wilson and Kinnock also gained the leadership standing as the candidates of the left.rottenborough said:
McD would still be Chancellor under Thornberry. Let that sink in.TheScreamingEagles said:
Less terrifying than Corbyn and May as PM.MarqueeMark said:Just stand back a moment.
Emily Thornberry.
Prime Minister Emily Thornberry.
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I may have spoken too soon. This is indeed more personal, and there's a softness and appeal to conscience that never comes across when she is ranting about Brexit or Corbyn.0
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In what way is spin recovery OT ?Sandpit said:
Ha, well done. I’m sure P1 didn’t want to get killed either. 800’ doesn’t give you a lot of time or options, lots of ‘eventualities’ to consider there. Better to look out and watch the ASI during the launch, and react correctly to a failed launch in the first place.Beverley_C said:
I refused an 800ft spin entry from an instructor in a glider once. Apparently things got heated enough that they overheard us from the launch point below.Sandpit said:
In gliders we practice spins from 1,000’ - the spin following a failed winch launch is what kills people. Easily dealt with if well trained though, even if you have a horrible view for a few seconds.Dura_Ace said:
The best advice I ever got on spins was from my Hawk instructor: if it's still spinning at 10,000 feet get out of it and take your ground posting like a man,Beverley_C said:
I did a lot of glider flying at one point and spin practice was mandatory - especially in a Puchacz. Seeing nothing but the ground in front of you and approaching at 100kts was "interesting". It really made you lean back in your seat
I was always glad to get above the 300ft - 400ft point on winch launches. I reserved my polebending for the final phases.
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Looking at the potential candidates and the situation we are in with Brexit I would be fine with sticking with her for now.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think you will find she has just secured her position for the foreseable future, like it or notjonny83 said:
She always looks more Prime Ministerial compared to Boris. Boris has his 'Boris is Boris' act that he can only do. But she's fatally wounded.Big_G_NorthWales said:Very Prime Ministerial so far
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Her future was secure beforehand. No suicidal Cons MP is going to risk another unelected (by the country) leader and would face overwhelming calls for a GE.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think you will find she has just secured her position for the foreseable future, like it or notjonny83 said:
She always looks more Prime Ministerial compared to Boris. Boris has his 'Boris is Boris' act that he can only do. But she's fatally wounded.Big_G_NorthWales said:Very Prime Ministerial so far
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That just tells us how poor the alternatives are for the Tories though. If someone significantly better than her was around, they’d be dropping her as soon as they could.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think you will find she has just secured her position for the foreseable future, like it or notjonny83 said:
She always looks more Prime Ministerial compared to Boris. Boris has his 'Boris is Boris' act that he can only do. But she's fatally wounded.Big_G_NorthWales said:Very Prime Ministerial so far
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He can see his hopes disappearing in this momentrottenborough said:Boris looking a bit glum.
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On the aviation theme, I recently flew in a 1953 De Havilland Beaver seaplane over the coast of Vancouver Island.
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Disgraceful scene giving her a P45, security shouldn't have allowed that.0
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Staying at home looking after Philip? Definitely not in No. 10. The glum faces of her cabinet just now as the camera panned along the row..Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think you will find she has just secured her position for the foreseable future, like it or notjonny83 said:
She always looks more Prime Ministerial compared to Boris. Boris has his 'Boris is Boris' act that he can only do. But she's fatally wounded.Big_G_NorthWales said:Very Prime Ministerial so far
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'Free market' was one of Shadsy's bingo phrases.
I didn't play, unfortunately.0 -
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she's now spoken out against stopping people travelling across the world, and against petty nationalism. Presumably she'll be cancelling Brexit by the end of the speech?0
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Harbour Air Seaplanes?Cyclefree said:On the aviation theme, I recently flew in a 1953 De Havilland Beaver seaplane over the coast of Vancouver Island.
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To become PM, by whatever route, means that you can stand up and perform on demand. Impressively so, we are talking about PM here, not a reality show contestant. But as you say, everything is relative.The_Apocalypse said:
That just tells us how poor the alternatives are for the Tories though. If someone significantly better than her was around, they’d be dropping her as soon as they could.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I think you will find she has just secured her position for the foreseable future, like it or notjonny83 said:
She always looks more Prime Ministerial compared to Boris. Boris has his 'Boris is Boris' act that he can only do. But she's fatally wounded.Big_G_NorthWales said:Very Prime Ministerial so far
She is a hugely capable politician, but relative to others before and, I hope, after, she is a poor PM, has little imagination, is overwhelmed by events, and will not be missed once she has left. People might have spared a sympathetic thought for her, had she not called the election and then done so badly.0 -
Lol, sounds like the ‘50s K8, or the old wooden Ka6. If it’s not creaking you didn’t rig it right!Sandpit said:The time to get worried with a Blanik is when there's no creaking because it probably means you've forgotten to put the wings on!
Johnny-come-latelys. What about a Skylark 2?0 -
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Just secured her completelyBig_G_NorthWales said:What an idiot
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Yeh On at 2/1.Richard_Nabavi said:'Free market' was one of Shadsy's bingo phrases.
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No, that wasn't me.0
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Good lord, she managed to bat it off.0
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Her speech is fucking useless. (Haven't seen or heard it.)0
