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Boris Johnson lays out his own, radical vision for Brexit. Impossible not to see it as a challenge to Theresa May https://t.co/XDVQZBkRpT
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1) David Herdson who is probably putting the finishing touches to his morning thread and Boris has meant that ends up on the cutting room floor
2) Me, tonight is date night.
3) Mike will never be allowed to go on a foreign holiday again.
She did her duty hanging in there to shore up the country after her election meltdown but time for her and Philip to retire to the Shires now methinks.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/15/exclusive-boris-johnson-yes-will-take-back-350m-eu-nhs/
Having said that he might very well bring down Theresa May with him.
See now, what were those odds against LaMay seeing out 2017 as PM?
In this case Boris is about as popular north of the border as a Johnson slapped in your face.
He says Britain will “keep environmental and social protections that are fair and wise”, but will ditch EU regulations that he says cost anything between 4 and 7 per cent of GDP.
Treading heavily on Mr Hammond’s toes, Mr Johnson says: “We should seize the opportunity of Brexit to reform our tax system,” pointing out that the Bank of England’s chief economist said in 2015 that the system is “skewed” and discourages investment.
...He also accuses Jeremy Corbyn of “chickening out” of Brexit with his party’s preference for remaining in the single market and customs union, or nearest equivalent.
“He would make a complete mockery of Brexit,” he writes, “and turn an opportunity into a national humiliation.”
Also suggestions Boris wants to reform planning laws and tax foreign buyers of UK property
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/15/exclusive-boris-johnson-yes-will-take-back-350m-eu-nhs/
The Republic of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, here we come.
https://twitter.com/AllieHBNews/status/908788005565059073
Nah, they'd just switch to Diana's Son...
He doesn't even get the gender of 'patrie' right, so his claim to be a man of letters also takes a knock.
I'd be okay with a ginger monarch.
- It's a superb piece by any standard, even if the only concrete example of the benefit of 'taking back control' is that we'll be able to introduce an anomaly into VAT regulations.
- Yes of course it's a leadership bid.
- He just about manages to avoid contradicting stated UK government policy. He doesn't quite say that we shouldn't pay anything for a transitional period, although he comes achingly close to it. His exact words are:
We would not expect to pay for access to their markets any more than they would expect to pay for access to ours.
And yes – once we have settled our accounts, we will take back control of roughly £350 million per week. [emphasis mine]
- Theresa May won't dare sack him for this. He's carefully crafted it so as not to leave her, in her already very weak position, with any sufficiently strong reason.
- The fact that it is so carefully crafted is a key point; this is not Boris being careless with his words, as he so often is.
- He has clearly decided that wrecking the negotiations is a price worth paying to further his career.
*tut*
https://www.inquisitr.com/1498029/pregnant-kate-middleton-bans-camilla-parker-bowles-from-family-gets-revenge/
Then people say that he wants to wreck the negotiations by insisting on Vote Leave's claims to further his career.
Maybe he actually believed what he said at the time and still does?
To get rid of a monarch, you get rid of their Praetorian Guard.
Just think of the optics of her going (voluntarily or otherwise) now, in terms of the negotiations - and, even worse, Boris (who is absolutely detested in Europe) taking over.
Just make sure any investments you've got are crash-out- and Corbyn-proof, because the probability of both has just doubled.
More likely he's playing to the gallery for a 2019 leadership election after May has carried the can for the inevitable Brexit climb down. But it's incredibly dangerous stuff which could get out of control.
I never, ever thought I would say it but thank God for the Corbyn surge. God alone knows what this shower would have been like with a majority. The prospect of 5years of the ghastly McDonell/Corbyn being less damaging than a Tory government should be absurd but it appears to be where we are. Buckle up.
If the hereditary principle is discarded, the credibility of the monarchy goes too. If only popular figures can hold the post then why not have an election to decide Head of State?
Edit: spooky thought - someone born at the same time as the strike tag was deprecated in HTML 4.01, is now old enough to vote.
Though I accept if Labour then get someone more moderate like Chuka Umunna to then take over as leader after a Boris victory it would likely swiftly be downhill for BJ from there
Put it another way - is an absolute chancer really what you want to vote for in a time of uncertainty? Corbyn would only have to stick to his half in, half out cake and eat it position to look (superficially) like the safe choice.
The reverse ferret of some PBers will be a sight to behold.
Would he have any support for a leadership bid? Are the Tories as crazy as that?
Its splendid stuff.
Then what?
As some one who still even now finds the GE17 utterly bewildering this all comes as close as anything else does to explaining it. How is it remotely possible for 40% of the population of an old, wise, stable, complex industrial democracy to vote the Jeremy Corbyn to be PM ?
Well look at what your party is putting the country through with it's euro lycenthropy.
Was intensely relaxed about the whole thing and still am!
https://twitter.com/RuthDavidsonMSP/status/908804118629711878
http://survation.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/MoS-Brexit-Poll-Tables-16.07.2017.pdf
Can she just hurry up and become PM now?
Even the hardcore lefties of my acquaintance love Ruth.
1 One thing is that we now know what is in May's Florence speech. Presumably, other Senior Ministers have seen it and (in general at least) approved it.
2 Which leaves Boris isolated (unless anyone else comes on board).
3 May cannot back down, but is too weak to sack him and have him on the back benches.
4 Where does Ms Davidson stand in all this? She has been busting her metaphorical balls to even get Scots to consider voting Tory. Boris puts the kaibosh on that. EDIT: I see she's tweeted.
5 Is a Boris/Osborne alliance on the cards? It would be powerful enough to see off May.
Now you can rightly argue the electorate is now stuck after disconnecting the steering wheel which is very irritating. But I'd rather be immobile than die like Thelma and Louise.
In fact this leaves you a bit fecked, because you have sworn up and down that the figure was a lie, and now it turns out it might well not be. Still, there must be some mileage left in pretending not to know the meaning of ordinary English words like "expert" and "accession talks".
It's worth noting that Boris Johnson has shortened on Betfair for both next Prime Minister and next Conservative leader, but not that markedly. He clearly wants it but has he the Parliamentary base to get it? My instinct is no.