Mr. Glenn, the EU's judicial imperialism is indefensible lunacy. Do we demand English or Scottish law to apply to Britons living overseas?
The idea that the law applying equally to all the people in a country is a problem is a deranged and perverse perspective.
It's our choice whether we participate in their programmes. If we don't participate, we don't get what we want. There's a circle to be squared, which is the application of the same laws in the same way ("equivalence" is not the same and isn't good enough), not requiring the 27 EU countries to change the way THEY do things (they won't accommodate us just because we reject their membership) and at, while avoiding judicial overreach. It's a problem. The circle is squared through membership but again we chose to reject that.
That EU bodies not only monitor this stuff, but actively seek to promulgate it via their PR and education initiatives, make it pretty clear that the EU is not just a "trade area" or "common market". There are very clearly people in top posts in Brussels who see the EU as a nascent super-state, and who interpret their duty as a kind of political midwifery service. That is not inherently a good thing or bad thing - it's easy enough to see the nobility in "founders of a great nation" - but I'd be more comfortable with it if it enjoyed outright democratic enthusiasm, rather than Europeanism being projected from above down to us masses below.
(To be fair to william, he has always made it clear he believes in and advocates political union. But that was hardly a major theme of the Remain campaign.)
Mr. Glenn, the EU's judicial imperialism is indefensible lunacy. Do we demand English or Scottish law to apply to Britons living overseas?
The idea that the law applying equally to all the people in a country is a problem is a deranged and perverse perspective.
It's our choice whether we participate in their programmes. If we don't participate, we don't get what we want. There's a circle to be squared, which is the application of the same laws in the same way ("equivalence" is not the same and isn't good enough), not requiring the 27 EU countries to change the way THEY do things (they won't accommodate us just because we reject their membership) and at, while avoiding judicial overreach. It's a problem. The circle is squared through membership but again we chose to reject that.
Isn't the ECJ issue a part of the exit deal? I.e. It has nothing to do with whether we want to participate in their programmes.
From that EU survey. "more than half of Europeans continue to disagree that their voice counts in the EU (52%)". 42% agree.
After all that EU propaganda.
I was asked when giving a seminar to a Chinese group whether I felt that most people in Britain thought their voice counted in deciding national policy. "Not very many, not very much", I said, regretfully. I'd have been rather pleased to be able to say that 42% did. I wonder what the actual figure is?
I had a look recently at how many cars BMW, Mercedes and Audi were selling in the UK. Almost 100k a year each I believe. Astounding. Any downturn in UK purchasing due to EU problems over trade are going to really hurt these companies. There is already a move away from diesel by buyers and any tightening up of the financing rules will also hurt them disproportionately.
Mr. Glenn, the EU's judicial imperialism is indefensible lunacy. Do we demand English or Scottish law to apply to Britons living overseas?
The idea that the law applying equally to all the people in a country is a problem is a deranged and perverse perspective.
It's our choice whether we participate in their programmes. If we don't participate, we don't get what we want. There's a circle to be squared, which is the application of the same laws in the same way ("equivalence" is not the same and isn't good enough), not requiring the 27 EU countries to change the way THEY do things (they won't accommodate us just because we reject their membership) and at, while avoiding judicial overreach. It's a problem. The circle is squared through membership but again we chose to reject that.
I now realise that you were probably talking about the exit arrangements for citizens. I agree there isn't much the EU can do to force this issue. I don't think ithe UK government is handling the citizen issue well. This is a place where generosity would play better for the negotiations, rather than using citizens as bargaining counters or taking a minimalist position where it does the least it can get away with. Ultimately the UK would likely get a better deal overall.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
From that EU survey. "more than half of Europeans continue to disagree that their voice counts in the EU (52%)". 42% agree.
After all that EU propaganda.
I was asked when giving a seminar to a Chinese group whether I felt that most people in Britain thought their voice counted in deciding national policy. "Not very many, not very much", I said, regretfully. I'd have been rather pleased to be able to say that 42% did. I wonder what the actual figure is?
Did your Chinese interlocutors feel that their voice counted in deciding national policy?
Mr. Glenn, the EU's judicial imperialism is indefensible lunacy. Do we demand English or Scottish law to apply to Britons living overseas?
The idea that the law applying equally to all the people in a country is a problem is a deranged and perverse perspective.
It's our choice whether we participate in their programmes. If we don't participate, we don't get what we want. There's a circle to be squared, which is the application of the same laws in the same way ("equivalence" is not the same and isn't good enough), not requiring the 27 EU countries to change the way THEY do things (they won't accommodate us just because we reject their membership) and at, while avoiding judicial overreach. It's a problem. The circle is squared through membership but again we chose to reject that.
I now realise that you were probably talking about the exit arrangements for citizens. I agree there isn't much the EU can do to force this issue. I don't think ithe UK government is handling the citizen issue well. This is a place where generosity would play better for the negotiations, rather than using citizens as bargaining counters or taking a minimalist position where it does the least it can get away with. Ultimately the UK would likely get a better deal overall.
That's true. I just hope that sort of common sense approach is going on behind the scenes.
OldKingCole - Interesting comparison here between Tesla model 3 and the 3 series BMW. Not sure what the German manufacturers are up for it.
The Tesla Model 3 is the first potential game changer for electric cars. For those who don't have a long commute and can install a charger at either home or work, it's probably an easy decision to make now, but for the 18 month waiting list if production ramps up as quickly as they expect.
BUT
There's a lot of issues still to be resolved, as was discussed on here a week or two ago. Charging infrastructure on main roads is probably the most urgent, followed by the same in areas of street parking in London and other major cities. There's also a lot of government policy to consider, such as power station capacity planning and massively falling tax revenues from regular cars (£50bn in fuel duty and VED last year, that's 10p on income tax if it disappears).
If they do become widely adopted expect power prices to rise. The fixed price per MWh for Hinckley Point may not look so stupid after all.
Indeed. If we are to have all new cars electric by 2040 there will need to be half a dozen Hinckley Points built between now and then.
I suspect that there will have to be a substantial tax on car chargers and/or the use of such, to replace the massive government revenues lost as ICE cars become less common. Also expect to see the return of the "Big Brother" road pricing experiment.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Interesting that the government has leaked a specification for a new trade dispute body in a job advert for a 'Digital Design Lead'. Clearly done deliberately and for show.
My name is Brendan O’Neill and I am a Brexit extremist. . . .
Consider the mouths-agape response to new YouGov research published yesterday, showing that many Leave voters are willing to pay a high price for Brexit. Judging from the lingo being used – YouGov calls these people ‘extremists’ and much of the press has murmured in agreement – you’d be forgiven for thinking Leavers were plotting suicide attacks or a violent purge of parliament to get shot of Remainers and Soft Brexiteers. In truth, all they’ve said is that they’d be cool with going through some economic difficulty if it means their democratic cry for Britain to split from Brussels is realised.
I had a look recently at how many cars BMW, Mercedes and Audi were selling in the UK. Almost 100k a year each I believe. Astounding. Any downturn in UK purchasing due to EU problems over trade are going to really hurt these companies. There is already a move away from diesel by buyers and any tightening up of the financing rules will also hurt them disproportionately.
100k down to 90k or even 80k. Big deal ! It won't be zero. How many Qashqais will Nissan sell in Europe after duties are imposed ?
From that EU survey. "more than half of Europeans continue to disagree that their voice counts in the EU (52%)". 42% agree.
After all that EU propaganda.
I was asked when giving a seminar to a Chinese group whether I felt that most people in Britain thought their voice counted in deciding national policy. "Not very many, not very much", I said, regretfully. I'd have been rather pleased to be able to say that 42% did. I wonder what the actual figure is?
Did your Chinese interlocutors feel that their voice counted in deciding national policy?
They didn't say, but the tone of the question implied not - essentially I understood them to be saying that multi-party democracy was not significantly different from single-party government in the sense of people feeling involved. It's possible that I was projecting my view of Chinese attitudes, but I don't think so.
I'd have answered "yes" in Switzerland, incidentally, because of the frequent referenda - I think people do feel quite well-consulted there.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Just because they want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg, doesn't mean we should kill our goose too.
There will be no FTT in (from East to West) London, Johannesburg, Geneva, Moscow, Dubai, Mumbai, Singapore, HK, Beijing, Tokyo, Sydney, NY etc etc - unless somehow the whole world can agree to it without exception.
Jezza is financially illiterate, his support for turning Britain into the new Venezuela will cnontinue to boost election turnout against him for as long as he remains in office.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
I hope so. Could pay for lots of Doctors and Nurses. And Police Officers.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
James Tobin, who originated the FTT idea, described it as "throwing sand in the wheels of international capital movements" because financial markets have become too efficient for old-fashioned demand management. Your nom de plume suggests you might approve of that.
My name is Brendan O’Neill and I am a Brexit extremist.. . .
Consider the mouths-agape response to new YouGov research published yesterday, showing that many Leave voters are willing to pay a high price for Brexit. Judging from the lingo being used – YouGov calls these people ‘extremists’ and much of the press has murmured in agreement – you’d be forgiven for thinking Leavers were plotting suicide attacks or a violent purge of parliament to get shot of Remainers and Soft Brexiteers. In truth, all they’ve said is that they’d be cool with going through some economic difficulty if it means their democratic cry for Britain to split from Brussels is realised.
The problem is that you Brexit extremists would be happy if others suffer economic hardship and / or lose their jobs as a price of Brexit . Most of you are retired and have no jobs to lose anyway . Will be a different story when they themselves suffer economic hardship .
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Just because they want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg, doesn't mean we should kill our goose too.
There will be no FTT in (from East to West) London, Johannesburg, Geneva, Moscow, Dubai, Mumbai, Singapore, HK, Beijing, Tokyo, Sydney, NY etc etc - unless somehow the whole world can agree to it without exception.
Jezza is financially illiterate, his support for turning Britain into the new Venezuela will cnontinue to boost election turnout against him for as long as he remains in office.
It will be dominos... once one major centre introduces it, everyone else will follow.
I have just seen the film Dunkirk. I am appalled. The whole evacuation was flawed and should never have been undertaken for the following reasons. 1. The evacuation was not carbon neutral. 2.The personnel used were overwhelmingly white and male. What was the Ministry diversity and equality co-ordinator thinking of? 3. There is no evidence of a Health and Safety risk evaluation. 4.Why were not the ships diverted to Calais to rescue asylum seekers and economic migrants as a higher priority?
Brilliant!
Yes, post of the day. dyingswan
A good write up along the same lines: http://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/kathy-gyngell-todays-cosseted-britain-struggle-repeat-dunkirk/ On the first day, 7,669 men were evacuated, but by the end of the eighth day, the extraordinary number of 338,226 soldiers had been successfully brought back across the English Channel while under attack on all sides in a hastily assembled fleet of over 800 boats.
Imagine us achieving that level of organisation and cooperation now in our individualistic, comfort zone and entitled world.
In the week between, thousands of men, terrifyingly exposed to Luftwaffe strafing of them on the beaches, or waiting for hours shoulder deep in cold sea, laden with gear, or rescued only later to drown trapped in the hold of their torpedoed ship, were not so lucky.
Of the 933 ships took part in Operation Dynamo, 236 were lost and 61 put out of action. Six British and three French destroyers were sunk, along with nine other major vessels. In addition, 19 destroyers were damaged.
Yet there was no national collapse. No candlelit vigils. The country got on with regrouping.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
I hope so. Could pay for lots of Doctors and Nurses. And Police Officers.
Indeed, but oh my!... some investment bankers might have to struggle by on slightly reduced six-figure bonuses! The poor dears!
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
James Tobin, who originated the FTT idea, described it as "throwing sand in the wheels of international capital movements" because financial markets have become too efficient for old-fashioned demand management. Your nom de plume suggests you might approve of that.
Ha! Well where I live there's plenty of sand to go around!
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Just because they want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg, doesn't mean we should kill our goose too.
There will be no FTT in (from East to West) London, Johannesburg, Geneva, Moscow, Dubai, Mumbai, Singapore, HK, Beijing, Tokyo, Sydney, NY etc etc - unless somehow the whole world can agree to it without exception.
Jezza is financially illiterate, his support for turning Britain into the new Venezuela will cnontinue to boost election turnout against him for as long as he remains in office.
It will be dominos... once one major centre introduces it, everyone else will follow.
More likely that everyone else laughs at the one centre that does introduce it, as all their business goes elsewhere.
Do you think the fiercely independent USA, or small city states like SIN and DXB are going to go along with it?
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
I hope so. Could pay for lots of Doctors and Nurses. And Police Officers.
Indeed, but oh my!... some investment bankers might have to struggle by on slightly reduced six-figure bonuses! The poor dears!
Hm, I think it is far more than that. Surely the business just wont be done here if there are more favourable places in terms of tax? The loss to the exchequer may be significant.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Just because they want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg, doesn't mean we should kill our goose too.
There will be no FTT in (from East to West) London, Johannesburg, Geneva, Moscow, Dubai, Mumbai, Singapore, HK, Beijing, Tokyo, Sydney, NY etc etc - unless somehow the whole world can agree to it without exception.
Jezza is financially illiterate, his support for turning Britain into the new Venezuela will cnontinue to boost election turnout against him for as long as he remains in office.
It will be dominos... once one major centre introduces it, everyone else will follow.
More likely that everyone else laughs at the one centre that does introduce it, as all their business goes elsewhere.
Do you think the fiercely independent USA, or small city states like SIN and DXB are going to go along with it?
Is London's trading pre-eminence down to it being the cheapest? I hardly think so.
Taxes have to rise - since the tories attempts to reduce the deficit by cutting spending have been a lamentable failure - and the rise has to come from somewhere. A suitably modest level FTT can contribute to that.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Just because they want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg, doesn't mean we should kill our goose too.
There will be no FTT in (from East to West) London, Johannesburg, Geneva, Moscow, Dubai, Mumbai, Singapore, HK, Beijing, Tokyo, Sydney, NY etc etc - unless somehow the whole world can agree to it without exception.
Jezza is financially illiterate, his support for turning Britain into the new Venezuela will cnontinue to boost election turnout against him for as long as he remains in office.
It will be dominos... once one major centre introduces it, everyone else will follow.
More likely that everyone else laughs at the one centre that does introduce it, as all their business goes elsewhere.
Do you think the fiercely independent USA, or small city states like SIN and DXB are going to go along with it?
Is London's trading pre-eminence down to it being the cheapest? I hardly think so.
Taxes have to rise - since the tories attempts to reduce the deficit by cutting spending have been a lamentable failure - and the rise has to come from somewhere. A suitably modest level FTT can contribute to that.
I don't think the banks need any more encouragement to leave.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
I hope so. Could pay for lots of Doctors and Nurses. And Police Officers.
Indeed, but oh my!... some investment bankers might have to struggle by on slightly reduced six-figure bonuses! The poor dears!
You do realise that it's not a tax on bankers or their bonuses but on those for whom the transactions are carried out ie everyone who has a pension or savings or a shares ISA, don't you?
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Just because they want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg, doesn't mean we should kill our goose too.
There will be no FTT in (from East to West) London, Johannesburg, Geneva, Moscow, Dubai, Mumbai, Singapore, HK, Beijing, Tokyo, Sydney, NY etc etc - unless somehow the whole world can agree to it without exception.
Jezza is financially illiterate, his support for turning Britain into the new Venezuela will cnontinue to boost election turnout against him for as long as he remains in office.
It will be dominos... once one major centre introduces it, everyone else will follow.
More likely that everyone else laughs at the one centre that does introduce it, as all their business goes elsewhere.
Do you think the fiercely independent USA, or small city states like SIN and DXB are going to go along with it?
When the first auction houses introduced buyers premiums at I think 10% in 1975 , everyone said that they would lose custom to those that did not charge them . Now 40 years later they are ubiquitous and around 15% plus VAT .
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Just because they want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg, doesn't mean we should kill our goose too.
There will be no FTT in (from East to West) London, Johannesburg, Geneva, Moscow, Dubai, Mumbai, Singapore, HK, Beijing, Tokyo, Sydney, NY etc etc - unless somehow the whole world can agree to it without exception.
Jezza is financially illiterate, his support for turning Britain into the new Venezuela will cnontinue to boost election turnout against him for as long as he remains in office.
It will be dominos... once one major centre introduces it, everyone else will follow.
More likely that everyone else laughs at the one centre that does introduce it, as all their business goes elsewhere.
Do you think the fiercely independent USA, or small city states like SIN and DXB are going to go along with it?
Is London's trading pre-eminence down to it being the cheapest? I hardly think so.
Taxes have to rise - since the tories attempts to reduce the deficit by cutting spending have been a lamentable failure - and the rise has to come from somewhere. A suitably modest level FTT can contribute to that.
The Tories have both raised taxes and curbed spending, and the deficit has fallen from 11% of GDP to 2.8%. That is a considerable success.
The FTT is like Stamp Duty, in that it's a tax on transactions. It doesn't hurt bankers any more than Stamp Duty hurts estate agents.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Just because they want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg, doesn't mean we should kill our goose too.
There will be no FTT in (from East to West) London, Johannesburg, Geneva, Moscow, Dubai, Mumbai, Singapore, HK, Beijing, Tokyo, Sydney, NY etc etc - unless somehow the whole world can agree to it without exception.
Jezza is financially illiterate, his support for turning Britain into the new Venezuela will cnontinue to boost election turnout against him for as long as he remains in office.
It will be dominos... once one major centre introduces it, everyone else will follow.
More likely that everyone else laughs at the one centre that does introduce it, as all their business goes elsewhere.
Do you think the fiercely independent USA, or small city states like SIN and DXB are going to go along with it?
Is London's trading pre-eminence down to it being the cheapest? I hardly think so.
Taxes have to rise - since the tories attempts to reduce the deficit by cutting spending have been a lamentable failure - and the rise has to come from somewhere. A suitably modest level FTT can contribute to that.
The regulatory regime and property rights also have an impact, but a lot of City business is very price sensitive.
But what spending cuts? UK Government spending has risen almost every quarter for the last decade.
Ironically, the biggest threat to the City's revenues would be a Corbyn government - HSBC would probably announce their relocation within a week of him becoming PM.
"Britain is on the hook to pay a spiralling €582.5 million bill for relocating the agency as part of EU demands for a Brexit financial settlement, with the bulk of costs arising from a botched rental contract for its Canary Wharf offices. "
Hopefully the answer will be: "piss off, we aren't asking you to move, and it's not our fault you didn't put a break clause in".
Just think how delighted we (the scientists involved) were when London was chosen!
We, the British, have told them to leave,. AIUI the EMA doesn’t want to leave, but, as an EU agency it has to be in an EU country. We told them to go, so we have to pick up the tab.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Just because they want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg, doesn't mean we should kill our goose too.
There will be no FTT in (from East to West) London, Johannesburg, Geneva, Moscow, Dubai, Mumbai, Singapore, HK, Beijing, Tokyo, Sydney, NY etc etc - unless somehow the whole world can agree to it without exception.
Jezza is financially illiterate, his support for turning Britain into the new Venezuela will cnontinue to boost election turnout against him for as long as he remains in office.
It will be dominos... once one major centre introduces it, everyone else will follow.
More likely that everyone else laughs at the one centre that does introduce it, as all their business goes elsewhere.
Do you think the fiercely independent USA, or small city states like SIN and DXB are going to go along with it?
When the first auction houses introduced buyers premiums at I think 10% in 1975 , everyone said that they would lose custom to those that did not charge them . Now 40 years later they are ubiquitous and around 15% plus VAT .
Comparing an auction house and a regulatory environment for securities or derivatives trading is hilarious.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Just because they want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg, doesn't mean we should kill our goose too.
There will be no FTT in (from East to West) London, Johannesburg, Geneva, Moscow, Dubai, Mumbai, Singapore, HK, Beijing, Tokyo, Sydney, NY etc etc - unless somehow the whole world can agree to it without exception.
Jezza is financially illiterate, his support for turning Britain into the new Venezuela will cnontinue to boost election turnout against him for as long as he remains in office.
It will be dominos... once one major centre introduces it, everyone else will follow.
More likely that everyone else laughs at the one centre that does introduce it, as all their business goes elsewhere.
Do you think the fiercely independent USA, or small city states like SIN and DXB are going to go along with it?
Is London's trading pre-eminence down to it being the cheapest? I hardly think so.
Taxes have to rise - since the tories attempts to reduce the deficit by cutting spending have been a lamentable failure - and the rise has to come from somewhere. A suitably modest level FTT can contribute to that.
The Tories have both raised taxes and curbed spending, and the deficit has fallen from 11% of GDP to 2.8%. That is a considerable success.
The FTT is like Stamp Duty, in that it's a tax on transactions. It doesn't hurt bankers any more than Stamp Duty hurts estate agents.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Just because they want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg, doesn't mean we should kill our goose too.
There will be no FTT in (from East to West) London, Johannesburg, Geneva, Moscow, Dubai, Mumbai, Singapore, HK, Beijing, Tokyo, Sydney, NY etc etc - unless somehow the whole world can agree to it without exception.
Jezza is financially illiterate, his support for turning Britain into the new Venezuela will cnontinue to boost election turnout against him for as long as he remains in office.
It will be dominos... once one major centre introduces it, everyone else will follow.
More likely that everyone else laughs at the one centre that does introduce it, as all their business goes elsewhere.
Do you think the fiercely independent USA, or small city states like SIN and DXB are going to go along with it?
When the first auction houses introduced buyers premiums at I think 10% in 1975 , everyone said that they would lose custom to those that did not charge them . Now 40 years later they are ubiquitous and around 15% plus VAT .
Comparing an auction house and a regulatory environment for securities or derivatives trading is hilarious.
Not hugely hilarious. You've got a weird sense of humour
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Just because they want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg, doesn't mean we should kill our goose too.
There will be no FTT in (from East to West) London, Johannesburg, Geneva, Moscow, Dubai, Mumbai, Singapore, HK, Beijing, Tokyo, Sydney, NY etc etc - unless somehow the whole world can agree to it without exception.
Jezza is financially illiterate, his support for turning Britain into the new Venezuela will cnontinue to boost election turnout against him for as long as he remains in office.
It will be dominos... once one major centre introduces it, everyone else will follow.
More likely that everyone else laughs at the one centre that does introduce it, as all their business goes elsewhere.
Do you think the fiercely independent USA, or small city states like SIN and DXB are going to go along with it?
Is London's trading pre-eminence down to it being the cheapest? I hardly think so.
Taxes have to rise - since the tories attempts to reduce the deficit by cutting spending have been a lamentable failure - and the rise has to come from somewhere. A suitably modest level FTT can contribute to that.
The Tories have both raised taxes and curbed spending, and the deficit has fallen from 11% of GDP to 2.8%. That is a considerable success.
The FTT is like Stamp Duty, in that it's a tax on transactions. It doesn't hurt bankers any more than Stamp Duty hurts estate agents.
Throttles short term speculation.
Throttles liquidity, too. Only a fool would consider that a good thing.
"Britain is on the hook to pay a spiralling €582.5 million bill for relocating the agency as part of EU demands for a Brexit financial settlement, with the bulk of costs arising from a botched rental contract for its Canary Wharf offices. "
Hopefully the answer will be: "piss off, we aren't asking you to move, and it's not our fault you didn't put a break clause in".
Just think how delighted we (the scientists involved) were when London was chosen!
We, the British, have told them to leave,. AIUI the EMA doesn’t want to leave, but, as an EU agency it has to be in an EU country. We told them to go, so we have to pick up the tab.
We did not tell them to go. The EU did.
I think EU institutions leaving the UK is a reasonably predictable consequence of the UK leaving the EU. I repeat the loss of the EMA is a significant blow to the UK.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Just because they want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg, doesn't mean we should kill our goose too.
There will be no FTT in (from East to West) London, Johannesburg, Geneva, Moscow, Dubai, Mumbai, Singapore, HK, Beijing, Tokyo, Sydney, NY etc etc - unless somehow the whole world can agree to it without exception.
Jezza is financially illiterate, his support for turning Britain into the new Venezuela will cnontinue to boost election turnout against him for as long as he remains in office.
It will be dominos... once one major centre introduces it, everyone else will follow.
More likely that everyone else laughs at the one centre that does introduce it, as all their business goes elsewhere.
Do you think the fiercely independent USA, or small city states like SIN and DXB are going to go along with it?
Is London's trading pre-eminence down to it being the cheapest? I hardly think so.
Taxes have to rise - since the tories attempts to reduce the deficit by cutting spending have been a lamentable failure - and the rise has to come from somewhere. A suitably modest level FTT can contribute to that.
The Tories have both raised taxes and curbed spending, and the deficit has fallen from 11% of GDP to 2.8%. That is a considerable success.
The FTT is like Stamp Duty, in that it's a tax on transactions. It doesn't hurt bankers any more than Stamp Duty hurts estate agents.
Throttles short term speculation.
Throttles liquidity, too..
Not necessarily. Depends on how you design the tax.
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Just because they want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg, doesn't mean we should kill our goose too.
There will be no FTT in (from East to West) London, Johannesburg, Geneva, Moscow, Dubai, Mumbai, Singapore, HK, Beijing, Tokyo, Sydney, NY etc etc - unless somehow the whole world can agree to it without exception.
Jezza is financially illiterate, his support for turning Britain into the new Venezuela will cnontinue to boost election turnout against him for as long as he remains in office.
It will be dominos... once one major centre introduces it, everyone else will follow.
More likely that everyone else laughs at the one centre that does introduce it, as all their business goes elsewhere.
Do you think the fiercely independent USA, or small city states like SIN and DXB are going to go along with it?
Is London's trading pre-eminence down to it being the cheapest? I hardly think so.
Taxes have to rise - since the tories attempts to reduce the deficit by cutting spending have been a lamentable failure - and the rise has to come from somewhere. A suitably modest level FTT can contribute to that.
The Tories have both raised taxes and curbed spending, and the deficit has fallen from 11% of GDP to 2.8%. That is a considerable success.
The FTT is like Stamp Duty, in that it's a tax on transactions. It doesn't hurt bankers any more than Stamp Duty hurts estate agents.
Throttles short term speculation.
Throttles liquidity, too..
Not necessarily. Depends on how you design the tax.
Go on then. Tell us how you would design it to throttle short-term speculation but not liquidity.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Jezza is financially illiterate, his support for turning Britain into the new Venezuela will cnontinue to boost election turnout against him for as long as he remains in office.
It will be dominos... once one major centre introduces it, everyone else will follow.
More likely that everyone else laughs at the one centre that does introduce it, as all their business goes elsewhere.
Do you think the fiercely independent USA, or small city states like SIN and DXB are going to go along with it?
Is London's trading pre-eminence down to it being the cheapest? I hardly think so.
Taxes have to rise - since the tories attempts to reduce the deficit by cutting spending have been a lamentable failure - and the rise has to come from somewhere. A suitably modest level FTT can contribute to that.
The Tories have both raised taxes and curbed spending, and the deficit has fallen from 11% of GDP to 2.8%. That is a considerable success.
The FTT is like Stamp Duty, in that it's a tax on transactions. It doesn't hurt bankers any more than Stamp Duty hurts estate agents.
Some posters will laugh, but I think there's no question the Tories have done a phenomenal job on the economy since taking office in 2010.
To solve the deficit, and reduce unemployment to a 40-year low, with almost continuous economic growth, is a fantastic achievement given the condition the country was in then.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Jezza is financially illiterate, his support for turning Britain into the new Venezuela will cnontinue to boost election turnout against him for as long as he remains in office.
It will be dominos... once one major centre introduces it, everyone else will follow.
More likely that everyone else laughs at the one centre that does introduce it, as all their business goes elsewhere.
Do you think the fiercely independent USA, or small city states like SIN and DXB are going to go along with it?
Is London's trading pre-eminence down to it being the cheapest? I hardly think so.
Taxes have to rise - since the tories attempts to reduce the deficit by cutting spending have been a lamentable failure - and the rise has to come from somewhere. A suitably modest level FTT can contribute to that.
The Tories have both raised taxes and curbed spending, and the deficit has fallen from 11% of GDP to 2.8%. That is a considerable success.
The FTT is like Stamp Duty, in that it's a tax on transactions. It doesn't hurt bankers any more than Stamp Duty hurts estate agents.
Some posters will laugh, but I think there's no question the Tories have done a phenomenal job on the economy since taking office in 2010.
To solve the deficit, and reduce unemployment to a 40-year low, with almost continuous economic growth, is a fantastic achievement given the condition the country was in then.
Achieved despite the government, first the coalition and then the Conservatives.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Jezza is financially illiterate, his support for turning Britain into the new Venezuela will cnontinue to boost election turnout against him for as long as he remains in office.
It will be dominos... once one major centre introduces it, everyone else will follow.
More likely that everyone else laughs at the one centre that does introduce it, as all their business goes elsewhere.
Do you think the fiercely independent USA, or small city states like SIN and DXB are going to go along with it?
Is London's trading pre-eminence down to it being the cheapest? I hardly think so.
Taxes have to rise - since the tories attempts to reduce the deficit by cutting spending have been a lamentable failure - and the rise has to come from somewhere. A suitably modest level FTT can contribute to that.
The Tories have both raised taxes and curbed spending, and the deficit has fallen from 11% of GDP to 2.8%. That is a considerable success.
The FTT is like Stamp Duty, in that it's a tax on transactions. It doesn't hurt bankers any more than Stamp Duty hurts estate agents.
Some posters will laugh, but I think there's no question the Tories have done a phenomenal job on the economy since taking office in 2010.
To solve the deficit, and reduce unemployment to a 40-year low, with almost continuous economic growth, is a fantastic achievement given the condition the country was in then.
Achieved despite the government, first the coalition and then the Conservatives.
I'm afraid Government policy had quite a lot to do with it.
I have just seen the film Dunkirk. I am appalled. The whole evacuation was flawed and should never have been undertaken for the following reasons. 1. The evacuation was not carbon neutral. 2.The personnel used were overwhelmingly white and male. What was the Ministry diversity and equality co-ordinator thinking of? 3. There is no evidence of a Health and Safety risk evaluation. 4.Why were not the ships diverted to Calais to rescue asylum seekers and economic migrants as a higher priority?
Brilliant!
Yes, post of the day. dyingswan
A good write up along the same lines: http://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/kathy-gyngell-todays-cosseted-britain-struggle-repeat-dunkirk/ On the first day, 7,669 men were evacuated, but by the end of the eighth day, the extraordinary number of 338,226 soldiers had been successfully brought back across the English Channel while under attack on all sides in a hastily assembled fleet of over 800 boats.
Imagine us achieving that level of organisation and cooperation now in our individualistic, comfort zone and entitled world.
In the week between, thousands of men, terrifyingly exposed to Luftwaffe strafing of them on the beaches, or waiting for hours shoulder deep in cold sea, laden with gear, or rescued only later to drown trapped in the hold of their torpedoed ship, were not so lucky.
Of the 933 ships took part in Operation Dynamo, 236 were lost and 61 put out of action. Six British and three French destroyers were sunk, along with nine other major vessels. In addition, 19 destroyers were damaged.
Yet there was no national collapse. No candlelit vigils. The country got on with regrouping.
I would agree with most of this with the exception of the 'individualistic' attack. Britain in the 1930s and 40s was far less socialised and far less state controlled than Britain today. The problem is not too much individualism but too little with vast swathes of the population believing they are owed a particular standard of living and a particular safety net by the Government rather than being willing to look after themselves. It is the loss of individualism and the increasing statism of the country that has bred generations incapable of independent thought and action and it is for that reason that we would struggle to repeat the herism of Dunkirk or indeed of much of the rest of the war. The idea of self sacrifice has, with noble and notable exceptions, largely been lost amongst a very large proportion of our population.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At least one does. ESMA overseas financial regulation and is accountable to the EU Parliament. So it has power over the UK but is not located in the UK and is unaccountable to any UK body.
One hopeful positive from Brexit is that the EU go on to introduce their much-talked-about Financial Transaction Tax.
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Jezza is financially illiterate, his support for turning Britain into the new Venezuela will cnontinue to boost election turnout against him for as long as he remains in office.
It will be dominos... once one major centre introduces it, everyone else will follow.
More likely that everyone else laughs at the one centre that does introduce it, as all their business goes elsewhere.
Do you think the fiercely independent USA, or small city states like SIN and DXB are going to go along with it?
Is London's trading pre-eminence down to it being the cheapest? I hardly think so.
Taxes have to rise - since the tories attempts to reduce the deficit by cutting spending have been a lamentable failure - and the rise has to come from somewhere. A suitably modest level FTT can contribute to that.
The Tories have both raised taxes and curbed spending, and the deficit has fallen from 11% of GDP to 2.8%. That is a considerable success.
The FTT is like Stamp Duty, in that it's a tax on transactions. It doesn't hurt bankers any more than Stamp Duty hurts estate agents.
Some posters will laugh, but I think there's no question the Tories have done a phenomenal job on the economy since taking office in 2010.
To solve the deficit, and reduce unemployment to a 40-year low, with almost continuous economic growth, is a fantastic achievement given the condition the country was in then.
All entirely unnecessarily imperilled by Brexit. It has killed the Conservatives' reputation for economic competence.
My name is Brendan O’Neill and I am a Brexit extremist.. . .
Consider the mouths-agape response to new YouGov research published yesterday, showing that many Leave voters are willing to pay a high price for Brexit. Judging from the lingo being used – YouGov calls these people ‘extremists’ and much of the press has murmured in agreement – you’d be forgiven for thinking Leavers were plotting suicide attacks or a violent purge of parliament to get shot of Remainers and Soft Brexiteers. In truth, all they’ve said is that they’d be cool with going through some economic difficulty if it means their democratic cry for Britain to split from Brussels is realised.
The problem is that you Brexit extremists would be happy if others suffer economic hardship and / or lose their jobs as a price of Brexit . Most of you are retired and have no jobs to lose anyway . Will be a different story when they themselves suffer economic hardship .
What I took from that polling is that the first cut after the Brexit catastrophe should be to state pensions. They're ready and willing to suffer the privations.
For starters, it's based on 'approximately' 1,000 face-to-face interviews in each country, in the case of the UK about 1,365. And I'm not sure they'd be putting microphones in the faces of voters in Newcastle-Under-Lyme and Boston. But, even if they were, they carry them out at people's homes based on who is willing to talk to them and answer their questions.
It shows 70% support (in the UK) for “the free movement of EU citizens who can live, work, study and do business anywhere in the EU” - with only 21% opposed - which would mean more than half of all Leavers.
Even more incredibly, 55% support *in the UK* for a common EU policy on migration, and more people feeling European here than in either Italy or Greece.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At
One
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Jezza
It will be dominos... once one major centre introduces it, everyone else will follow.
More likely that everyone else laughs at the one centre that does introduce it, as all their business goes elsewhere.
Do you think the fiercely independent USA, or small city states like SIN and DXB are going to go along with it?
Is London's trading pre-eminence down to it being the cheapest? I hardly think so.
Taxes have to rise - since the tories attempts to reduce the deficit by cutting spending have been a lamentable failure - and the rise has to come from somewhere. A suitably modest level FTT can contribute to that.
The
Some posters will laugh, but I think there's no question the Tories have done a phenomenal job on the economy since taking office in 2010.
To solve the deficit, and reduce unemployment to a 40-year low, with almost continuous economic growth, is a fantastic achievement given the condition the country was in then.
All entirely unnecessarily imperilled by Brexit. It has killed the Conservatives' reputation for economic competence.
My name is Brendan O’Neill and I am a Brexit extremist.. . .
Consider the mouths-agape response to new YouGov research published yesterday, showing that many Leave voters are willing to pay a high price for Brexit. Judging from the lingo being used – YouGov calls these people ‘extremists’ and much of the press has murmured in agreement – you’d be forgiven for thinking Leavers were plotting suicide attacks or a violent purge of parliament to get shot of Remainers and Soft Brexiteers. In truth, all they’ve said is that they’d be cool with going through some economic difficulty if it means their democratic cry for Britain to split from Brussels is realised.
The problem is that you Brexit extremists would be happy if others suffer economic hardship and / or lose their jobs as a price of Brexit . Most of you are retired and have no jobs to lose anyway . Will be a different story when they themselves suffer economic hardship .
What I took from that polling is that the first cut after the Brexit catastrophe should be to state pensions. They're ready and willing to suffer the privations.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
At
One
Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Jezza
It will be dominos... once one major centre introduces it, everyone else will follow.
More likely that everyone else laughs at the one centre that does introduce it, as all their business goes elsewhere.
Do you think the fiercely independent USA, or small city states like SIN and DXB are going to go along with it?
Is London's trading pre-eminence down to it being the cheapest? I hardly think so.
Taxes have to rise - since the tories attempts to reduce the deficit by cutting spending have been a lamentable failure - and the rise has to come from somewhere. A suitably modest level FTT can contribute to that.
The
Some posters will laugh, but I think there's no question the Tories have done a phenomenal job on the economy since taking office in 2010.
To solve the deficit, and reduce unemployment to a 40-year low, with almost continuous economic growth, is a fantastic achievement given the condition the country was in then.
All entirely unnecessarily imperilled by Brexit. It has killed the Conservatives' reputation for economic competence.
My name is Brendan O’Neill and I am a Brexit extremist.. . .
Consider the mouths-agape response to new YouGov research published yesterday, showing that many Leave voters are willing to pay a high price for Brexit. Judging from the lingo being used – YouGov calls these people ‘extremists’ and much of the press has murmured in agreement – you’d be forgiven for thinking Leavers were plotting suicide attacks or a violent purge of parliament to get shot of Remainers and Soft Brexiteers. In truth, all they’ve said is that they’d be cool with going through some economic difficulty if it means their democratic cry for Britain to split from Brussels is realised.
The problem is that you Brexit extremists would be happy if others suffer economic hardship and / or lose their jobs as a price of Brexit . Most of you are retired and have no jobs to lose anyway . Will be a different story when they themselves suffer economic hardship .
What I took from that polling is that the first cut after the Brexit catastrophe should be to state pensions. They're ready and willing to suffer the privations.
But not to vote for it (as we saw in ge17)
The government should do an issue of negative return Brexit Bonds marketed to pensioners in order to fund the Brexit effort. Then when nobody buys them, they will have an excuse to renege on the referendum mandate.
My name is Brendan O’Neill and I am a Brexit extremist.. . .
Consider the mouths-agape response to new YouGov research published yesterday, showing that many Leave voters are willing to pay a high price for Brexit. Judging from the lingo being used – YouGov calls these people ‘extremists’ and much of the press has murmured in agreement – you’d be forgiven for thinking Leavers were plotting suicide attacks or a violent purge of parliament to get shot of Remainers and Soft Brexiteers. In truth, all they’ve said is that they’d be cool with going through some economic difficulty if it means their democratic cry for Britain to split from Brussels is realised.
The problem is that you Brexit extremists would be happy if others suffer economic hardship and / or lose their jobs as a price of Brexit . Most of you are retired and have no jobs to lose anyway . Will be a different story when they themselves suffer economic hardship .
What I took from that polling is that the first cut after the Brexit catastrophe should be to state pensions. They're ready and willing to suffer the privations.
But not to vote for it (as we saw in ge17)
The government should do an issue of negative return Brexit Bonds marketed to pensioners in order to fund the Brexit effort. Then when nobody buys them, they will have an excuse to renege on the referendum mandate.
We're leaving. Tra la la! Can't wait.
Wonder when you'll get used to it. The day after we leave? Or, like those benighted Japanese troops in the jungle, will you wait decades before accepting it?
For starters, it's based on 'approximately' 1,000 face-to-face interviews in each country, in the case of the UK about 1,365. And I'm not sure they'd be putting microphones in the faces of voters in Newcastle-Under-Lyme and Boston. But, even if they were, they carry them out at people's homes based on who is willing to talk to them and answer their questions.
It shows 70% support (in the UK) for “the free movement of EU citizens who can live, work, study and do business anywhere in the EU” - with only 21% opposed - which would mean more than half of all Leavers.
Even more incredibly, 55% support *in the UK* for a common EU policy on migration, and more people feeling European here than in either Italy or Greece.
Hmm.
I said something similar about the polling methodology used in the eurobarometer survey about a year ago and my account was banned in all but name (unable to post yet not banned).... For example, making questions overly complicated.
King Cole, how so? If they want to stay and we're happy for them to stay, what's the problem?
The ‘they’ is the staff, not the organisation as a whole. Would we be happy if one of our major regulatory boduies ‘lived’ in a different country?
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Don't worry we won't be far behind, I am sure it's on Jezza's list too!
Jezza
It will be dominos... once one major centre introduces it, everyone else will follow.
More likely that everyone else laughs at the one centre that does introduce it, as all their business goes elsewhere.
Do you think the fiercely independent USA, or small city states like SIN and DXB are going to go along with it?
Is London's trading pre-eminence down to it being the cheapest? I hardly think so.
Taxes have to rise - since the tories attempts to reduce the deficit by cutting spending have been a lamentable failure - and the rise has to come from somewhere. A suitably modest level FTT can contribute to that.
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Some posters will laugh, but I think there's no question the Tories have done a phenomenal job on the economy since taking office in 2010.
To solve the deficit, and reduce unemployment to a 40-year low, with almost continuous economic growth, is a fantastic achievement given the condition the country was in then.
All entirely unnecessarily imperilled by Brexit. It has killed the Conservatives' reputation for economic competence.
My name is Brendan O’Neill and I am a Brexit extremist.. . .
Consider the mouths-agape response to new YouGov research published yesterday, showing that many Leave voters are willing to pay a high price for Brexit. Judging from the lingo being used – YouGov calls these people ‘extremists’ and much of the press has murmured in agreement – you’d be forgiven for thinking Leavers were plotting suicide attacks or a violent purge of parliament to get shot of Remainers and Soft Brexiteers. In truth, all they’ve said is that they’d be cool with going through some economic difficulty if it means their democratic cry for Britain to split from Brussels is realised.
The problem is that you Brexit extremists would be happy if others suffer economic hardship and / or lose their jobs as a price of Brexit . Most of you are retired and have no jobs to lose anyway . Will be a different story when they themselves suffer economic hardship .
Poorer But Prouder is the war cry of the Leavebugs.
My name is Brendan O’Neill and I am a Brexit extremist.. . .
Consider the mouths-agape response to new YouGov research published yesterday, showing that many Leave voters are willing to pay a high price for Brexit. Judging from the lingo being used – YouGov calls these people ‘extremists’ and much of the press has murmured in agreement – you’d be forgiven for thinking Leavers were plotting suicide attacks or a violent purge of parliament to get shot of Remainers and Soft Brexiteers. In truth, all they’ve said is that they’d be cool with going through some economic difficulty if it means their democratic cry for Britain to split from Brussels is realised.
The problem is that you Brexit extremists would be happy if others suffer economic hardship and / or lose their jobs as a price of Brexit . Most of you are retired and have no jobs to lose anyway . Will be a different story when they themselves suffer economic hardship .
Poorer But Prouder is the war cry of the Leavebugs.
My name is Brendan O’Neill and I am a Brexit extremist.. . .
Consider the mouths-agape response to new YouGov research published yesterday, showing that many Leave voters are willing to pay a high price for Brexit. Judging from the lingo being used – YouGov calls these people ‘extremists’ and much of the press has murmured in agreement – you’d be forgiven for thinking Leavers were plotting suicide attacks or a violent purge of parliament to get shot of Remainers and Soft Brexiteers. In truth, all they’ve said is that they’d be cool with going through some economic difficulty if it means their democratic cry for Britain to split from Brussels is realised.
The problem is that you Brexit extremists would be happy if others suffer economic hardship and / or lose their jobs as a price of Brexit . Most of you are retired and have no jobs to lose anyway . Will be a different story when they themselves suffer economic hardship .
Poorer But Prouder is the war cry of the Leavebugs.
Money more important than democracy is it?
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams
My name is Brendan O’Neill and I am a Brexit extremist.. . .
Consider the mouths-agape response to new YouGov research published yesterday, showing that many Leave voters are willing to pay a high price for Brexit. Judging from the lingo being used – YouGov calls these people ‘extremists’ and much of the press has murmured in agreement – you’d be forgiven for thinking Leavers were plotting suicide attacks or a violent purge of parliament to get shot of Remainers and Soft Brexiteers. In truth, all they’ve said is that they’d be cool with going through some economic difficulty if it means their democratic cry for Britain to split from Brussels is realised.
The problem is that you Brexit extremists would be happy if others suffer economic hardship and / or lose their jobs as a price of Brexit . Most of you are retired and have no jobs to lose anyway . Will be a different story when they themselves suffer economic hardship .
Poorer But Prouder is the war cry of the Leavebugs.
Money more important than democracy is it?
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams
That is a tremendous quote. Should be aired more often when those who prefer lattes to liberty whine on.
I suspect that Conservative central office will be analysing all this 2017 election material with a fine tooth comb over the next few years, and that the next campaign will be planned down to a tee. Sometimes a defeat is needed for a victory.
My name is Brendan O’Neill and I am a Brexit extremist.. . .
Consider the mouths-agape response to new YouGov research published yesterday, showing that many Leave voters are willing to pay a high price for Brexit. Judging from the lingo being used – YouGov calls these people ‘extremists’ and much of the press has murmured in agreement – you’d be forgiven for thinking Leavers were plotting suicide attacks or a violent purge of parliament to get shot of Remainers and Soft Brexiteers. In truth, all they’ve said is that they’d be cool with going through some economic difficulty if it means their democratic cry for Britain to split from Brussels is realised.
The problem is that you Brexit extremists would be happy if others suffer economic hardship and / or lose their jobs as a price of Brexit . Most of you are retired and have no jobs to lose anyway . Will be a different story when they themselves suffer economic hardship .
Poorer But Prouder is the war cry of the Leavebugs.
Money more important than democracy is it?
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams
That is a tremendous quote. Should be aired more often when those who prefer lattes to liberty whine on.
I'm sure it's thrilling for the morons who liken membership of the EU to servitude. For the rest of us, it simply confirms how mad they are.
My name is Brendan O’Neill and I am a Brexit extremist.. . .
Consider the mouths-agape response to new YouGov research published yesterday, showing that many Leave voters are willing to pay a high price for Brexit. Judging from the lingo being used – YouGov calls these people ‘extremists’ and much of the press has murmured in agreement – you’d be forgiven for thinking Leavers were plotting suicide attacks or a violent purge of parliament to get shot of Remainers and Soft Brexiteers. In truth, all they’ve said is that they’d be cool with going through some economic difficulty if it means their democratic cry for Britain to split from Brussels is realised.
The problem is that you Brexit extremists would be happy if others suffer economic hardship and / or lose their jobs as a price of Brexit . Most of you are retired and have no jobs to lose anyway . Will be a different story when they themselves suffer economic hardship .
Poorer But Prouder is the war cry of the Leavebugs.
Money more important than democracy is it?
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams
That is a tremendous quote. Should be aired more often when those who prefer lattes to liberty whine on.
I'm sure it's thrilling for the morons who liken membership of the EU to servitude. For the rest of us, it simply confirms how mad they are.
My name is Brendan O’Neill and I am a Brexit extremist.. . .
Consider the mouths-agape response to new YouGov research published yesterday, showing that many Leave voters are willing to pay a high price for Brexit. Judging from the lingo being used – YouGov calls these people ‘extremists’ and much of the press has murmured in agreement – you’d be forgiven for thinking Leavers were plotting suicide attacks or a violent purge of parliament to get shot of Remainers and Soft Brexiteers. In truth, all they’ve said is that they’d be cool with going through some economic difficulty if it means their democratic cry for Britain to split from Brussels is realised.
The problem is that you Brexit extremists would be happy if others suffer economic hardship and / or lose their jobs as a price of Brexit . Most of you are retired and have no jobs to lose anyway . Will be a different story when they themselves suffer economic hardship .
Poorer But Prouder is the war cry of the Leavebugs.
Money more important than democracy is it?
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams
That is a tremendous quote. Should be aired more often when those who prefer lattes to liberty whine on.
I'm sure it's thrilling for the morons who liken membership of the EU to servitude. For the rest of us, it simply confirms how mad they are.
The morons are those who see increasingly distant and undemocratic Government as a form of freedom. Combined with the liars who pretend that a federal state is not the eventual destination of the EU, they make a vocal minority well deserving of scorn. You may think we are mad. We know you are dangerous and malevolent.
My name is Brendan O’Neill and I am a Brexit extremist.. . .
Consider the mouths-agape response to new YouGov research published yesterday, showing that many Leave voters are willing to pay a high price for Brexit. Judging from the lingo being used – YouGov calls these people ‘extremists’ and much of the press has murmured in agreement – you’d be forgiven for thinking Leavers were plotting suicide attacks or a violent purge of parliament to get shot of Remainers and Soft Brexiteers. In truth, all they’ve said is that they’d be cool with going through some economic difficulty if it means their democratic cry for Britain to split from Brussels is realised.
The problem is that you Brexit extremists would be happy if others suffer economic hardship and / or lose their jobs as a price of Brexit . Most of you are retired and have no jobs to lose anyway . Will be a different story when they themselves suffer economic hardship .
Poorer But Prouder is the war cry of the Leavebugs.
Money more important than democracy is it?
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams
That is a tremendous quote. Should be aired more often when those who prefer lattes to liberty whine on.
I'm sure it's thrilling for the morons who liken membership of the EU to servitude. For the rest of us, it simply confirms how mad they are.
The morons are those who see increasingly distant and undemocratic Government as a form of freedom. Combined with the liars who pretend that a federal state is not the eventual destination of the EU, they make a vocal minority well deserving of scorn. You may think we are mad. We know you are dangerous and malevolent.
And increasingly rude, too. 'Morons', 'maniacs' etc even in this thread.
The attempted otherisation of the majority is hilarious; Remainers still don't realise that they're not in control anymore.
My name is Brendan O’Neill and I am a Brexit extremist.. . .
Consider the mouths-agape response to new YouGov research published yesterday, showing that many Leave voters are willing to pay a high price for Brexit. Judging from the lingo being used – YouGov calls these people ‘extremists’ and much of the press has murmured in agreement – you’d be forgiven for thinking Leavers were plotting suicide attacks or a violent purge of parliament to get shot of Remainers and Soft Brexiteers. In truth, all they’ve said is that they’d be cool with going through some economic difficulty if it means their democratic cry for Britain to split from Brussels is realised.
The problem is that you Brexit extremists would be happy if others suffer economic hardship and / or lose their jobs as a price of Brexit . Most of you are retired and have no jobs to lose anyway . Will be a different story when they themselves suffer economic hardship .
Poorer But Prouder is the war cry of the Leavebugs.
Money more important than democracy is it?
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams
That is a tremendous quote. Should be aired more often when those who prefer lattes to liberty whine on.
I'm sure it's thrilling for the morons who liken membership of the EU to servitude. For the rest of us, it simply confirms how mad they are.
The morons are those who see increasingly distant and undemocratic Government as a form of freedom. Combined with the liars who pretend that a federal state is not the eventual destination of the EU, they make a vocal minority well deserving of scorn. You may think we are mad. We know you are dangerous and malevolent.
And increasingly rude, too. 'Morons', 'maniacs' etc even in this thread.
The attempted otherisation of the majority is hilarious; Remainers still don't realise that they're not in control anymore.
If you don't want to be labelled a moron, don't make moronic comparisons.
That advice is for others: you're way too far gone.
My name is Brendan O’Neill and I am a Brexit extremist.. . .
Consider the mouths-agape response to new YouGov research published yesterday, showing that many Leave voters are willing to pay a high price for Brexit. Judging from the lingo being used – YouGov calls these people ‘extremists’ and much of the press has murmured in agreement – you’d be forgiven for thinking Leavers were plotting suicide attacks or a violent purge of parliament to get shot of Remainers and Soft Brexiteers. In truth, all they’ve said is that they’d be cool with going through some economic difficulty if it means their democratic cry for Britain to split from Brussels is realised.
The problem is that you Brexit extremists would be happy if others suffer economic hardship and / or lose their jobs as a price of Brexit . Most of you are retired and have no jobs to lose anyway . Will be a different story when they themselves suffer economic hardship .
Poorer But Prouder is the war cry of the Leavebugs.
Money more important than democracy is it?
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams
Great quote. Also, to tie into the earlier conversation about encryption: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin.
My name is Brendan O’Neill and I am a Brexit extremist.. . .
Consider the mouths-agape response to new YouGov research published yesterday, showing that many Leave voters are willing to pay a high price for Brexit. Judging from the lingo being used – YouGov calls these people ‘extremists’ and much of the press has murmured in agreement – you’d be forgiven for thinking Leavers were plotting suicide attacks or a violent purge of parliament to get shot of Remainers and Soft Brexiteers. In truth, all they’ve said is that they’d be cool with going through some economic difficulty if it means their democratic cry for Britain to split from Brussels is realised.
The problem is that you Brexit extremists would be happy if others suffer economic hardship and / or lose their jobs as a price of Brexit . Most of you are retired and have no jobs to lose anyway . Will be a different story when they themselves suffer economic hardship .
Poorer But Prouder is the war cry of the Leavebugs.
Money more important than democracy is it?
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams
That is a tremendous quote. Should be aired more often when those who prefer lattes to liberty whine on.
I'm sure it's thrilling for the morons who liken membership of the EU to servitude. For the rest of us, it simply confirms how mad they are.
My name is Brendan O’Neill and I am a Brexit extremist.. . .
Consider the mouths-agape response to new YouGov research published yesterday, showing that many Leave voters are willing to pay a high price for Brexit. Judging from the lingo being used – YouGov calls these people ‘extremists’ and much of the press has murmured in agreement – you’d be forgiven for thinking Leavers were plotting suicide attacks or a violent purge of parliament to get shot of Remainers and Soft Brexiteers. In truth, all they’ve said is that they’d be cool with going through some economic difficulty if it means their democratic cry for Britain to split from Brussels is realised.
The problem is that you Brexit extremists would be happy if others suffer economic hardship and / or lose their jobs as a price of Brexit . Most of you are retired and have no jobs to lose anyway . Will be a different story when they themselves suffer economic hardship .
Poorer But Prouder is the war cry of the Leavebugs.
Money more important than democracy is it?
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams
That is a tremendous quote. Should be aired more often when those who prefer lattes to liberty whine on.
I'm sure it's thrilling for the morons who liken membership of the EU to servitude. For the rest of us, it simply confirms how mad they are.
Yes. It worries me that far too many Leavers seem incapable of distinguishing Brexit from their battle re-enactment society. One would like to think that the political class is a bit more in tune with the modern age, but the fact that Rees-Mogg is being seriously touted as a future PM only gives further cause for concern. Our future is chain-mail or tweed - not a choice to inspire one!
My name is Brendan O’Neill and I am a Brexit extremist.. . .
Consider the mouths-agape response to new YouGov research published yesterday, showing that many Leave voters are willing to pay a high price for Brexit. Judging from the lingo being used – YouGov calls these people ‘extremists’ and much of the press has murmured in agreement – you’d be forgiven for thinking Leavers were plotting suicide attacks or a violent purge of parliament to get shot of Remainers and Soft Brexiteers. In truth, all they’ve said is that they’d be cool with going through some economic difficulty if it means their democratic cry for Britain to split from Brussels is realised.
The problem is that you Brexit extremists would be happy if others suffer economic hardship and / or lose their jobs as a price of Brexit . Most of you are retired and have no jobs to lose anyway . Will be a different story when they themselves suffer economic hardship .
Poorer But Prouder is the war cry of the Leavebugs.
Money more important than democracy is it?
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams
That is a tremendous quote. Should be aired more often when those who prefer lattes to liberty whine on.
Quando hai deciso di Lasciare tutto il passato dietro di te per via sfilavano le bandiere, e tu hai visto la libertà. Per via sfogavi il tuo rancore, ma tua non era la libertà.
This has become the dullest website. Sorry. I used to love the badinage, and I relished the cut n thrust. But something has happened. For me at least (and this is an entirely personal opinion)
Too much politics - Brexit and Sindy and Corbyn and Trump - has maybe killed it. For now.
I hope vivacity returns. Good luck.
You took the words right out of my mouth. Well, not the exact words, but they meant the same thing!
This has become the dullest website. Sorry. I used to love the badinage, and I relished the cut n thrust. But something has happened. For me at least (and this is an entirely personal opinion)
Too much politics - Brexit and Sindy and Corbyn and Trump - has maybe killed it. For now.
I hope vivacity returns. Good luck.
You took the words right out of my mouth. Well, not the exact words, but they meant the same thing!
Agreed - it's also the repetition of the same people making the same points about the same topics.
I want to place a bet for a particular potential candidate for the Democrat nominee for 2020. My candidate is not mentioned by any of the betting websites. How do I go about this?
On a slightly different topic today apparently is the tenth anniversary of the Credit Crunch. How time flies when you get older. (Although I would date it to the collapse of Lehman Brothers, which would be next year, rather than Northern Rock)
This has become the dullest website. Sorry. I used to love the badinage, and I relished the cut n thrust. But something has happened. For me at least (and this is an entirely personal opinion)
Too much politics - Brexit and Sindy and Corbyn and Trump - has maybe killed it. For now.
I want to place a bet for a particular potential candidate for the Democrat nominee for 2020. My candidate is not mentioned by any of the betting websites. How do I go about this?
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(To be fair to william, he has always made it clear he believes in and advocates political union. But that was hardly a major theme of the Remain campaign.)
"more than half of Europeans continue to disagree that their voice counts in the EU (52%)". 42% agree.
After all that EU propaganda.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/789667/Brexit-EU-Associate-Citizenship-Theresa-May-Guy-Verhofstadt-Brussels-UK
Bankers around the world (except for Paris and Frankfurt) are licking their lips at the idea.
I suspect that there will have to be a substantial tax on car chargers and/or the use of such, to replace the massive government revenues lost as ICE cars become less common. Also expect to see the return of the "Big Brother" road pricing experiment.
Interesting that the government has leaked a specification for a new trade dispute body in a job advert for a 'Digital Design Lead'. Clearly done deliberately and for show.
My name is Brendan O’Neill and I am a Brexit extremist.
. . .
Consider the mouths-agape response to new YouGov research published yesterday, showing that many Leave voters are willing to pay a high price for Brexit. Judging from the lingo being used – YouGov calls these people ‘extremists’ and much of the press has murmured in agreement – you’d be forgiven for thinking Leavers were plotting suicide attacks or a violent purge of parliament to get shot of Remainers and Soft Brexiteers. In truth, all they’ve said is that they’d be cool with going through some economic difficulty if it means their democratic cry for Britain to split from Brussels is realised.
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/08/im-a-brexit-extremist-and-proud-of-it/
I'd have answered "yes" in Switzerland, incidentally, because of the frequent referenda - I think people do feel quite well-consulted there.
There will be no FTT in (from East to West) London, Johannesburg, Geneva, Moscow, Dubai, Mumbai, Singapore, HK, Beijing, Tokyo, Sydney, NY etc etc - unless somehow the whole world can agree to it without exception.
Jezza is financially illiterate, his support for turning Britain into the new Venezuela will cnontinue to boost election turnout against him for as long as he remains in office.
Your nom de plume suggests you might approve of that.
http://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/kathy-gyngell-todays-cosseted-britain-struggle-repeat-dunkirk/
On the first day, 7,669 men were evacuated, but by the end of the eighth day, the extraordinary number of 338,226 soldiers had been successfully brought back across the English Channel while under attack on all sides in a hastily assembled fleet of over 800 boats.
Imagine us achieving that level of organisation and cooperation now in our individualistic, comfort zone and entitled world.
In the week between, thousands of men, terrifyingly exposed to Luftwaffe strafing of them on the beaches, or waiting for hours shoulder deep in cold sea, laden with gear, or rescued only later to drown trapped in the hold of their torpedoed ship, were not so lucky.
Of the 933 ships took part in Operation Dynamo, 236 were lost and 61 put out of action. Six British and three French destroyers were sunk, along with nine other major vessels. In addition, 19 destroyers were damaged.
Yet there was no national collapse. No candlelit vigils. The country got on with regrouping.
Do you think the fiercely independent USA, or small city states like SIN and DXB are going to go along with it?
Taxes have to rise - since the tories attempts to reduce the deficit by cutting spending have been a lamentable failure - and the rise has to come from somewhere. A suitably modest level FTT can contribute to that.
The FTT is like Stamp Duty, in that it's a tax on transactions. It doesn't hurt bankers any more than Stamp Duty hurts estate agents.
But what spending cuts? UK Government spending has risen almost every quarter for the last decade.
https://east.aws.tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/government-spending
Ironically, the biggest threat to the City's revenues would be a Corbyn government - HSBC would probably announce their relocation within a week of him becoming PM.
To solve the deficit, and reduce unemployment to a 40-year low, with almost continuous economic growth, is a fantastic achievement given the condition the country was in then.
There's absolutely a deal to be done based on the DCF value and, if well negotiated, sat a discount to DCF
For starters, it's based on 'approximately' 1,000 face-to-face interviews in each country, in the case of the UK about 1,365. And I'm not sure they'd be putting microphones in the faces of voters in Newcastle-Under-Lyme and Boston. But, even if they were, they carry them out at people's homes based on who is willing to talk to them and answer their questions.
It shows 70% support (in the UK) for “the free movement of EU citizens who can live, work, study and do business anywhere in the EU” - with only 21% opposed - which would mean more than half of all Leavers.
Even more incredibly, 55% support *in the UK* for a common EU policy on migration, and more people feeling European here than in either Italy or Greece.
Hmm.
Yawn.
Empty vessels make most noise.
Wonder when you'll get used to it. The day after we leave? Or, like those benighted Japanese troops in the jungle, will you wait decades before accepting it?
Samuel Adams
The attempted otherisation of the majority is hilarious; Remainers still don't realise that they're not in control anymore.
That advice is for others: you're way too far gone.
Also, to tie into the earlier conversation about encryption:
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin.
I suppose we just need to wait for our new Churchill to come along. Any ideas? Boris Johnson? Liam Fox? Andrea Leadsom?
I even did a thread on it last year.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/09/01/george-osborne-the-modern-day-winston-churchill/
tutto il passato dietro di te
per via sfilavano le bandiere,
e tu hai visto la libertà.
Per via sfogavi il tuo rancore,
ma tua non era la libertà.
Osborne as Churchill? Ffs.
Perhaps you'll prefer this piece.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/10/18/the-brexiteers-junckers-fifth-columnists/
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/aug/02/day-credit-crunch-began-10-years-on-world-changed
https://twitter.com/MsHelicat/status/892820109793918976