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Paddy Power have a market up on a theoretical Newton Abbot by election were Ann Marie Morris resign following her use of the n word. I’m not playing this market, I suspect all stakes will become an interest free loan to Paddy Power for nearly six month and I’ve got better things to do with my money.
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I did post First like Tony Blair when he fought his first GE, but now I have amended it to second like Jeremy Corbyn after he failed to win the last GE.
Hope that is clear ....
In times gone by the LDs were close to winning (the predecessor seat was LibDem 2001-10) and this should be a target for them. It doesn't look like a seat Labour could ever win.
FPT:
Good morning.
Macron is getting a lot of flack on Twitter (again) for comments he made about Africa. First I saw was a video clip, though it turns out that was edited.
This is the full quote:
https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/884490993319464963
Personally, I don't see what's so awful about what he's just said there. On my timeline last night, I saw my Corbynista friends calling Macron a racist for this....yet they were silent when it came to anti-Semitism in Labour party *rolleyes*.
https://twitter.com/jkirchick/status/884534595466784770
Macron is making a reasonable and intelligent point, and does not appear to be arguing that the existing aid has failed to make an impact; in key areas like primary education and healthcare, clearly it has. But these are long term structural improvements, not quick five-year fixes.
I'm not kidding - you're getting a lot of this kind of thing:
https://twitter.com/umbyrella/status/884584410200383490
https://twitter.com/joeprince___/status/884515568312823809
Alt-righters and Conservative sites like the Daily Caller are claiming that Macron has 'angered' his fans with what he's said here - nope, the people angry about what he's said are Corbyn, Sanders and Melenchon supporters: they never supported Macron in the first place.
I don't think a casual use of the 'N' word is enough to force an MP to resign. In the current position we are in, i should imagine it would have to be very serious indeed.
Having said that, TMay suddenly looks unlucky in the way Major looked unlucky from 93 onwards. It isn't as if it's the PM's fault that a backbencher auto asphyxiates, but it felt as if it was. Perhaps TMay will shortly set up a #motorwaycones twitter account.
The media certainty weren't revving up the Outrage Bus when all of the anti-Jewish stuff was doing the rounds from the left ... so why should we allow that to slide past but now buy a ticket for this particular charabanc?
I agree primary education and healthcare are making a difference, and will assist, in the long-term with reducing population growth.
May at least knows she needed to take swift action and didnt try to explain it away.
But everything else is a chaotic shambles...chronic poverty...street crime... corruption....
Macron is right.
Yeah aside from her filmed racism, what OTHER evidence do you have?
In a way, the people having a go at her are the real intolerant people
And, the Conservatives are nowhere near as unpopular now as 1993.
http://www.devonlive.com/anne-marie-morris-distances-herself-from-vile-racist-remark-made-by-her-agent-at-hustings-event/story-30365953-detail/story.html
Turns out it was 'n*gger' . Stupid, I thought, again she deserves what she's getting. Now I find it was an unscripted and old-fashioned figure of speech. What a let-down. Serves me right for taking notice of hysterics. Unwise, but a million miles away from being what I thought
I'd always been curious of the derivation. Now, I suppose, with our modern censorship rules, I'll never know. You can listen to sexual expressions feely banded about on daytime TV, but non-sexual words cause the matrons to hold up their skirts and run for the hills.
I'm still OK for religious naughty words? OK, then .... Jehovah, Jehovah. Jehovah!
Oh dear ....
Right
British politics remains torn between two contradictory, indeed incompatible, positions. On the one hand there is an evident desire to maintain as much continuity as possible, while on the other there is an urgent necessity for a clean break. This is the Johnsonian position of having your cake and eating it. Unfortunately, it is also increasingly clear that there is no cake.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/scotland/brexit-means-brexit-doesnt-mean-anything-s967zgrvp
Are there words that white people can use but not black people? This is just curiosity, I've not yet turned into Uncle Bob from the nursing home, but I feel like it sometimes.
I remember the furore when Alan Hansen used the world 'coloured' when criticising racism in football. So is 'coloured' a naughty word even when used in context?
That is not what I said, and you know it, The phrase was used often in the 1970s, long before you were born.
Thank you, that makes a little more sense.
Mr. Scrapheap, indeed.
I'm deeply suspicious of this story. Sounds like a first step in trying to achieve the idiotic aspiration of getting rid of cash: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40561807
In F1 gossip: rumours of the British Grand Prix being moved to east London have arisen. Because losing a classic track for a shitty identikit street circuit that may be unachievable anyway is what the fans really want,
We should also recognise that there have been some development successes, as well as failures. Sub Saharan Africa.
The discussion on fertility rates here is interesting. It is in West and Central Africa that there has been the least demographic progress:
https://www.newsecuritybeat.org/2015/05/whats-west-central-africas-youthful-demographics-high-desired-family-size/
If person A calls person B a n*****, or uses it in that context, they are saying I am a racist and intend to be offensive. Although there are very few other reasons to use it. The 'niggardly' hysteria was just ignorance.
Thanks for the explanation. Strange how it came to mean a complication rather than anything sinister.
Of more interest, is there any one here who can come up with a comparable phrase which describes the action of hiding something in plain sight, which doesn't upset people?
I can't recall a British black politician using the "n" word or using "coloured" in recent memory and the latter is rarely used in its old context.
In some ways it's akin to "queer" being reclaimed by the gay community from its previous use as a distinctly negative term. Whitey, honky and redneck and trailer trash in the US are examples of reverse discrimination abuse but IMO don't have the same force as the "n" word.
On the news twelve times a day, every day.
Four years and eleven months of it to go...
Tell me, Lady Chakrabati, what first persuaded you that Labour didn't have an anti-Semitism problem?
Brenan O neil is coming to Morris'@ s rescue
https://twitter.com/spikedonline/status/884518455868882944
The truth is more complex.
Please just face the fact that you aren't very good at this.
First piggate and now this
It's outmoded, archaic and inappropriate. But not racist
It meant a complication that you weren't expecting. Hence my confusion as to the derivation, now helpfully explained.
Ask your grandparents, they will explain.
Such phraseology might well be learnt decades ago, and be nothing to do with current company. It's not a phrase you can forget and unlearn.
I have some sympathy with the MP, although she's been very silly.
But, we don't see using this offensive phrase as a hanging offence, either.
She was raising concern that the issue of Brexit without a deal was not being addressed, or prepared for.
Offensive language, but a significant issue.
As for anti-Semitism in Labour, I have exactly the same thoughts. Naz Shah and her ilk should not be MPs.
I doubt if she'll resign, though, and expect she'll be quietly readmitted to the whip after a period, like the Tory MP a while back after she cheerfully joked about dead Chinese cockle-pickers. Howard suspended her at once, then let her back in after a while.
I'd agree that the degree of offence is less than the use of the "n" word directed at an individual but the "woodpile" comment is clearly derived from casual racism that thankfully has fallen into disuse.
Almost as bad was the fact that she seemed completely oblivious to how the use of the "n" word would be regarded.
What was "piggate"?
Roll on the supervolcano eruption.
Much more interested in Macron's comments than anything some backbench Conservative MP has said.
I've read through the whole answer and while it's close to my own position, I don't feel comfortable with it. It smacks of an interesting moral and cultural nuance relating to money, aid and governance which seems peculiar to the West.
I'm finding it hard to explain in words but I'll have a try. It is in the interests of the West (and indeed the whole world) for Africa to be peaceful and prosperous and helping them achieve that is an entirely laudable aim on that basis but the reluctance of the West seems to relate to the governance structures (or lack of them) in much of Africa which means the perception is the aid doesn't go to the people but lines the pockets of bureaucrats and despots.
The comparison with post-WW2 Marshall seems predicated on that notion - America was happy to help the recovery of democratic, stable western European countries with accountable and relatively corruption-free governments but the modern West is wary of backing African countries where venality is or appears to be the norm.
This seems less of a problem to the Chinese who have opted for a different form of investment in parts of Africa via industrial and transport infrastructure (the new railway from Nairobi to Mombasa and the proposed East African railway extension is an example).
Is it for us to tell other parts of the countries how they should be governed ? No, but it is our money in the end though the human consequences of failed states seem to end up on Europe's doorstep almost as if to say that if you don't help the Africans in Africa they'll come and help themselves in Europe.
Speaking at a business lunch in Sydney on Tuesday, Crosby attempted to explain the phenomenon of Jeremy Corbyn.
“On polling day, over 70% of voters thought the Conservatives were going to win,” Crosby said.
“So they thought we’ll reward [Corbyn] for being prepared to talk about interesting things and shake the system up, but we’ll still have the comfort of having Theresa May as prime minister at the end of the day,” he said.
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/11/tory-pollster-lynton-crosby-says-theresa-may-right-to-call-early-general-election
1984 is the second most lied-about book people claim to have read.
The MP concerned is only a couple of years older than me and the expression would have been used by her parents generation. The sea change occurred rather rapidly in the 1970's - Hot Chocolate's 1973 single Brother Louie, controversial at the time, referred to a white father wanting no spook in his family and the black father's reverse racism of wanting no honky marrying his daughter.