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A) Pay the UK, £36bn.Sunil_Prasannan said:
A) The money is for Northern Ireland, NOT the DUPThe_Apocalypse said:@Mortimer How does that counter the assertion that she has a billion quid to give to the DUP but no money for public sector workers? This looks bad for the Tories.
b) The Northern Irish are UK taxpayers
C) £1 billion over two years is a bargain compared to the £8.5 billion NET we give to Brussels each year
b) The British are UK taxpayers.0 -
Simply untrue. The Grenfell residents are being given special leave to remain for1year, after which they will able to apply for ILR.Scott_P said:0 -
I note the lack of discussion hereabouts on the first quarter Scottish GDP figures - up 0.8 in the first quarter. That is FOUR TIMES the UK average figure.
For a week the Tory and Labour parties aided and abetted by the BBC have been forecasting a Scottish recession and blaming the prospect of indy ref 2. By their own logic the way to provoke a boom is to put indy ref on the table!!!!0 -
Not as bad as ordering a rare steak and getting back semi-edible fibreboard. Wetherspoons, I'm looking at you. Mind you, they're Leave, aren't they? Maybe they incinerate on principle.rkrkrk said:On topic... Ordering a steak medium well done or well done is just terrible. A crime against flavour and meat.
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https://twitter.com/kevverage/status/882520871415554049scotslass said:I note the lack of discussion hereabouts on the first quarter Scottish GDP figures
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To a point...though people who like to kill fellow mammals to eat a meal lack much of a conscienceNickPalmer said:
I'm in your corner. Food snobs. Wine snobs. Music snobs. All "my taste is better than your taste". Pshaw. To each his own.RoyalBlue said:
Is there a worse kind of bore than one who cares how long other people like their steaks cooked?rkrkrk said:On topic... Ordering a steak medium well done or well done is just terrible. A crime against flavour and meat.
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Doesn't surprise me that you like rare meat...something that probably goes down well at the lodge whilst you are probing your back passages with trowels, hopping around on one leg and baring your wobbly man breasts....Sean_F said:
I don't care how others do them. But a rare steak, or one that's briefly seared in a pan, is wonderful.RoyalBlue said:
Is there a worse kind of bore than one who cares how long other people like their steaks cooked?rkrkrk said:On topic... Ordering a steak medium well done or well done is just terrible. A crime against flavour and meat.
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I guess after Scott_P's last tweet you won't be hanging around to debate different measures of GDP.scotslass said:I note the lack of discussion hereabouts on the first quarter Scottish GDP figures - up 0.8 in the first quarter. That is FOUR TIMES the UK average figure.
For a week the Tory and Labour parties aided and abetted by the BBC have been forecasting a Scottish recession and blaming the prospect of indy ref 2. By their own logic the way to provoke a boom is to put indy ref on the table!!!!0 -
You do realise that the concept of humans eating animal flesh will be viewed much worse than buggering children....it truly is a grotesque and disgusting habit that we will evolve ourselves out of...surbiton said:
Stop farting !Sunil_Prasannan said:
Meat is Murder!rkrkrk said:On topic... Ordering a steak medium well done or well done is just terrible. A crime against flavour and meat.
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Most of the grant making we do via our Fore Trust initiative (thefore.org) but my foundation's website is bulldogtrust.org. I don't believe there's a website for the Golden Bottle Trust (the main family foundation)rottenborough said:
Do you have a link to your website or details?Charles said:
Nick have you ever come across Muddy Fork before?NickPalmer said:
I'm in your corner. Food snobs. Wine snobs. Music snobs. All "my taste is better than your taste". Pshaw. To each his own.RoyalBlue said:
Is there a worse kind of bore than one who cares how long other people like their steaks cooked?rkrkrk said:On topic... Ordering a steak medium well done or well done is just terrible. A crime against flavour and meat.
North Nottinghamshire CIC using gardening to combat mental health issues. We're funding them to pilot a new push into GPs/teachers/prisoners but wanted to flag them up to you
Edit; shout out to the Big Lottery for their support for The Fore.0 -
It's animal spirits, due to the fact that Scots have turned against the SNP.scotslass said:I note the lack of discussion hereabouts on the first quarter Scottish GDP figures - up 0.8 in the first quarter. That is FOUR TIMES the UK average figure.
For a week the Tory and Labour parties aided and abetted by the BBC have been forecasting a Scottish recession and blaming the prospect of indy ref 2. By their own logic the way to provoke a boom is to put indy ref on the table!!!!
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We prefer to sacrifice virgins.tyson said:
Doesn't surprise me that you like rare meat...something that probably goes down well at the lodge whilst you are probing your back passages with trowels, hopping around on one leg and baring your wobbly man breasts....Sean_F said:
I don't care how others do them. But a rare steak, or one that's briefly seared in a pan, is wonderful.RoyalBlue said:
Is there a worse kind of bore than one who cares how long other people like their steaks cooked?rkrkrk said:On topic... Ordering a steak medium well done or well done is just terrible. A crime against flavour and meat.
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"Newspapers" are looking for more stuff to be "outraged" about as though the deaths themselves are not enough. I've never seen anything as badly reported as Grenfall, the press has behaved appallingly from day one.not_on_fire said:Simply untrue. The Grenfell residents are being given special leave to remain for1year, after which they will able to apply for ILR.
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Yorkshire and the North East already have moderate parties beating the Lib Dems in some areas. The Yorkshire Party and the North East PartyHYUFD said:
The quicker the showtrials begin, the sooner Chuka Umunna can start an En Marche style breakaway partyBeverley_C said:
The show trials have begun! Corbyn for Supreme Leader!!!The_Apocalypse said:
(and all the men have to get a haircut identical to Comrade Corbyn Je-Remey)0 -
The amount of misinformation by the news media, and Sky especially, is prolonging the suffering and adding to the problems. They are stoking up anti authority anger and calling into doubt the judge appointed for the inquiry.not_on_fire said:
Simply untrue. The Grenfell residents are being given special leave to remain for1year, after which they will able to apply for ILR.Scott_P said:
As I have said before the residents are traumatised and in grief and it is understandable that some cannot decide on the offers they have received and the agony of the identification of the deceased is adding to their pain.
If this carries on much longer I do believe that the residents may start to lose some support. It has to be said that labour have politicised it from day one but at least Corbyn has backed the judge. Well done to Corbyn and I do not say that often0 -
It's a delightful habit. One of joys of being alive.tyson said:
You do realise that the concept of humans eating animal flesh will be viewed much worse than buggering children....it truly is a grotesque and disgusting habit that we will evolve ourselves out of...surbiton said:
Stop farting !Sunil_Prasannan said:
Meat is Murder!rkrkrk said:On topic... Ordering a steak medium well done or well done is just terrible. A crime against flavour and meat.
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But not quite as bad as using smiliestyson said:
You do realise that the concept of humans eating animal flesh will be viewed much worse than buggering children....it truly is a grotesque and disgusting habit that we will evolve ourselves out of...surbiton said:
Stop farting !Sunil_Prasannan said:
Meat is Murder!rkrkrk said:On topic... Ordering a steak medium well done or well done is just terrible. A crime against flavour and meat.
If God didn't want us to eat animals, he shouldn't have made them out of meat.0 -
Good for Corbyn. Esp. as it slaps down the appalling Emma Dent Coad.Big_G_NorthWales said:
The amount of misinformation by the news media, and Sky especially, is prolonging the suffering and adding to the problems. They are stoking up anti authority anger and calling into doubt the judge appointed for the inquiry.not_on_fire said:
Simply untrue. The Grenfell residents are being given special leave to remain for1year, after which they will able to apply for ILR.Scott_P said:
As I have said before the residents are traumatised and in grief and it is understandable that some cannot decide on the offers they have received and the agony of the identification of the deceased is adding to their pain.
If this carries on much longer I do believe that the residents may start to lose some support. It has to be said that labour have politicised it from day one but at least Corbyn has backed the judge. Well done to Corbyn and I do not say that often0 -
Of course this time last year Scottish growth was also 6 times below the UK average, when the SNP were also in chargescotslass said:I note the lack of discussion hereabouts on the first quarter Scottish GDP figures - up 0.8 in the first quarter. That is FOUR TIMES the UK average figure.
For a week the Tory and Labour parties aided and abetted by the BBC have been forecasting a Scottish recession and blaming the prospect of indy ref 2. By their own logic the way to provoke a boom is to put indy ref on the table!!!!0 -
When foxes, wolves, sharks, lions, tigers, crocodiles etc stop eating animal flesh (and occasionally human flesh) then so will I. It is called the food chain for a reason!tyson said:
You do realise that the concept of humans eating animal flesh will be viewed much worse than buggering children....it truly is a grotesque and disgusting habit that we will evolve ourselves out of...surbiton said:
Stop farting !Sunil_Prasannan said:
Meat is Murder!rkrkrk said:On topic... Ordering a steak medium well done or well done is just terrible. A crime against flavour and meat.
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£500 million per year is less than £8.5 billion?The_Apocalypse said:@Sunil_Prasannan
(a. Has already been addressed - see my previous post
(b. So are public sector workers
(c. WTH does that have to do with the austerity debate?0 -
And it is alleged she was on the tenant resident association in 2012 who was responsible for the maintenance of the blockIshmael_Z said:
Good for Corbyn. Esp. as it slaps down the appalling Emma Dent Coad.Big_G_NorthWales said:
The amount of misinformation by the news media, and Sky especially, is prolonging the suffering and adding to the problems. They are stoking up anti authority anger and calling into doubt the judge appointed for the inquiry.not_on_fire said:
Simply untrue. The Grenfell residents are being given special leave to remain for1year, after which they will able to apply for ILR.Scott_P said:
As I have said before the residents are traumatised and in grief and it is understandable that some cannot decide on the offers they have received and the agony of the identification of the deceased is adding to their pain.
If this carries on much longer I do believe that the residents may start to lose some support. It has to be said that labour have politicised it from day one but at least Corbyn has backed the judge. Well done to Corbyn and I do not say that often0 -
I daresay I haven't listened to the whole podcast - was a view espoused on the possibility of Hunt as next PM? I am a whole £5 deep in that market at 66-1.
On steak, medium rare. Also if you go for well done you get the crappiest bit of steak chef can find, as he can cremate his way out of having to throw it away.0 -
Not quite the same as En MarcheNorthernUprising said:
Yorkshire and the North East already have moderate parties beating the Lib Dems in some areas. The Yorkshire Party and the North East PartyHYUFD said:
The quicker the showtrials begin, the sooner Chuka Umunna can start an En Marche style breakaway partyBeverley_C said:
The show trials have begun! Corbyn for Supreme Leader!!!The_Apocalypse said:
(and all the men have to get a haircut identical to Comrade Corbyn Je-Remey)0 -
Her argument was stupid anyway, he's a judge not a social worker. His job is to examine evidence and witnesses, and then report the facts and make recommendations. By the very nature of the role that will mean you end up with someone like Sir Martin, the last thing we need is another major enquiry where the chair keeps changing.Ishmael_Z said:Good for Corbyn. Esp. as it slaps down the appalling Emma Dent Coad.
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Flanders and Swann said that about people (or more specifically, "roast leg of insurance salesman")Ishmael_Z said:
But not quite as bad as using smiliestyson said:
You do realise that the concept of humans eating animal flesh will be viewed much worse than buggering children....it truly is a grotesque and disgusting habit that we will evolve ourselves out of...surbiton said:
Stop farting !Sunil_Prasannan said:
Meat is Murder!rkrkrk said:On topic... Ordering a steak medium well done or well done is just terrible. A crime against flavour and meat.
If God didn't want us to eat animals, he shouldn't have made them out of meat.0 -
I was happily and optimistically waiting for said response......in a different universe we would probably end up as very good friends......Sean_F said:
We prefer to sacrifice virgins.tyson said:
Doesn't surprise me that you like rare meat...something that probably goes down well at the lodge whilst you are probing your back passages with trowels, hopping around on one leg and baring your wobbly man breasts....Sean_F said:
I don't care how others do them. But a rare steak, or one that's briefly seared in a pan, is wonderful.RoyalBlue said:
Is there a worse kind of bore than one who cares how long other people like their steaks cooked?rkrkrk said:On topic... Ordering a steak medium well done or well done is just terrible. A crime against flavour and meat.
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No, but I think they are a black swanHYUFD said:
Not quite the same as En MarcheNorthernUprising said:
Yorkshire and the North East already have moderate parties beating the Lib Dems in some areas. The Yorkshire Party and the North East PartyHYUFD said:
The quicker the showtrials begin, the sooner Chuka Umunna can start an En Marche style breakaway partyBeverley_C said:
The show trials have begun! Corbyn for Supreme Leader!!!The_Apocalypse said:
(and all the men have to get a haircut identical to Comrade Corbyn Je-Remey)0 -
Yes ... and there is me with a "For Sale" sign in the garden. I hope I am soon enoughsurbiton said:
Agreed. In terms of quarters, probably started 5 days ago.Beverley_C said:
It just convinces me further that the recession has started its early phases.AndyJS said:"Worst decade for UK productivity since Napoleon
Not since the times of George III, Napoleon and war with America has the UK suffered such a long period of low productivity."
http://news.sky.com/story/worst-decade-for-uk-productivity-since-napolean-10938330
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Cooking is of great importance. I have just taken a freshly baked loaf out of the oven and shall shortly be enjoying really fresh bread, toasted and with a nice cup of green tea.foxinsoxuk said:
c'mon! This is a website where people discuss demographic weighting of polls in great detail Cooking is less boring to nearly all the great British public!RoyalBlue said:
Is there a worse kind of bore than one who cares how long other people like their steaks cooked?rkrkrk said:On topic... Ordering a steak medium well done or well done is just terrible. A crime against flavour and meat.
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Ay up MarcheHYUFD said:
Not quite the same as En MarcheNorthernUprising said:
Yorkshire and the North East already have moderate parties beating the Lib Dems in some areas. The Yorkshire Party and the North East PartyHYUFD said:
The quicker the showtrials begin, the sooner Chuka Umunna can start an En Marche style breakaway partyBeverley_C said:
The show trials have begun! Corbyn for Supreme Leader!!!The_Apocalypse said:
(and all the men have to get a haircut identical to Comrade Corbyn Je-Remey)
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You must have a reason, but why would you toast freshly home baked breadBeverley_C said:
Cooking is of great importance. I have just taken a freshly baked loaf out of the oven and shall shortly be enjoying really fresh bread, toasted and with a nice cup of green tea.foxinsoxuk said:
c'mon! This is a website where people discuss demographic weighting of polls in great detail Cooking is less boring to nearly all the great British public!RoyalBlue said:
Is there a worse kind of bore than one who cares how long other people like their steaks cooked?rkrkrk said:On topic... Ordering a steak medium well done or well done is just terrible. A crime against flavour and meat.
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On a positive note...I don't think after 12 years of posting here there is a single person I could say I dislike in the slightest....I just find you all mostly eccentric and just a little bit bonkers...
I think Beverley's comment about baking a baked loaf with a nice cup of green tea says it all..
Good night all....0 -
Because I like it... and it toasts really well.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You must have a reason, but why would you toast freshly home baked breadBeverley_C said:
Cooking is of great importance. I have just taken a freshly baked loaf out of the oven and shall shortly be enjoying really fresh bread, toasted and with a nice cup of green tea.foxinsoxuk said:
c'mon! This is a website where people discuss demographic weighting of polls in great detail Cooking is less boring to nearly all the great British public!RoyalBlue said:
Is there a worse kind of bore than one who cares how long other people like their steaks cooked?rkrkrk said:On topic... Ordering a steak medium well done or well done is just terrible. A crime against flavour and meat.
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That's not a fully true assertion, Nurses and Teachers who make the most noise got over 3% on average in 15/16, very respectable. I have some sympathy with lower paid Public Sector workers, politics has been played with a lot of jobs in recent years.The_Apocalypse said:@Mortimer How does that counter the assertion that she has a billion quid to give to the DUP but no money for public sector workers? This looks bad for the Tories.
How can teachers complain though when performance is properly looked at, 40% are not at the level they should be at 11, over 50% are likely to fail this year at 16.0 -
Lord Scarman did a decent enquiry into the Brixton riots, and changed the face of policing of inner cities, despite not exactly being a rastaman.glw said:
Her argument was stupid anyway, he's a judge not a social worker. His job is to examine evidence and witnesses, and then report the facts and make recommendations. By the very nature of the role that will mean you end up with someone like Sir Martin, the last thing we need is another major enquiry where the chair keeps changing.Ishmael_Z said:Good for Corbyn. Esp. as it slaps down the appalling Emma Dent Coad.
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Good for you - when I was a very young policeman in Edinburgh in 1960 as I came off my night shift I would pass the bakers and the wonderful aroma of freshly baked bread and rolls always propelled me into the shop for a lovely breakfast of fresh breadBeverley_C said:
Because I like it... and it toasts really well.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You must have a reason, but why would you toast freshly home baked breadBeverley_C said:
Cooking is of great importance. I have just taken a freshly baked loaf out of the oven and shall shortly be enjoying really fresh bread, toasted and with a nice cup of green tea.foxinsoxuk said:
c'mon! This is a website where people discuss demographic weighting of polls in great detail Cooking is less boring to nearly all the great British public!RoyalBlue said:
Is there a worse kind of bore than one who cares how long other people like their steaks cooked?rkrkrk said:On topic... Ordering a steak medium well done or well done is just terrible. A crime against flavour and meat.
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I agree. It's more important to have someone chair the investigation who will get a grip on the slippery characters trying to evade responsibility than it is to find someone who will empathise with the survivors.foxinsoxuk said:
Lord Scarman did a decent enquiry into the Brixton riots, and changed the face of policing of inner cities, despite not exactly being a rastaman.glw said:
Her argument was stupid anyway, he's a judge not a social worker. His job is to examine evidence and witnesses, and then report the facts and make recommendations. By the very nature of the role that will mean you end up with someone like Sir Martin, the last thing we need is another major enquiry where the chair keeps changing.Ishmael_Z said:Good for Corbyn. Esp. as it slaps down the appalling Emma Dent Coad.
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Eating animals worse then raping children.....God help us.tyson said:
You do realise that the concept of humans eating animal flesh will be viewed much worse than buggering children....it truly is a grotesque and disgusting habit that we will evolve ourselves out of...surbiton said:
Stop farting !Sunil_Prasannan said:
Meat is Murder!rkrkrk said:On topic... Ordering a steak medium well done or well done is just terrible. A crime against flavour and meat.
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Big_G_NorthWales said:
Good for you - when I was a very young policeman in Edinburgh in 1960 as I came off my night shift I would pass the bakers and the wonderful aroma of freshly baked bread and rolls always propelled me into the shop for a lovely breakfast of fresh breadBeverley_C said:
Because I like it... and it toasts really well.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You must have a reason, but why would you toast freshly home baked breadBeverley_C said:
Cooking is of great importance. I have just taken a freshly baked loaf out of the oven and shall shortly be enjoying really fresh bread, toasted and with a nice cup of green tea.foxinsoxuk said:
c'mon! This is a website where people discuss demographic weighting of polls in great detail Cooking is less boring to nearly all the great British public!RoyalBlue said:
Is there a worse kind of bore than one who cares how long other people like their steaks cooked?rkrkrk said:On topic... Ordering a steak medium well done or well done is just terrible. A crime against flavour and meat.
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Good night Mr Tysontyson said:On a positive note...I don't think after 12 years of posting here there is a single person I could say I dislike in the slightest....I just find you all mostly eccentric and just a little bit bonkers...
I think Beverley's comment about baking a baked loaf with a nice cup of green tea says it all..
Good night all....0 -
That looks very yummyBeverley_C said:Big_G_NorthWales said:
Good for you - when I was a very young policeman in Edinburgh in 1960 as I came off my night shift I would pass the bakers and the wonderful aroma of freshly baked bread and rolls always propelled me into the shop for a lovely breakfast of fresh breadBeverley_C said:
Because I like it... and it toasts really well.Big_G_NorthWales said:
You must have a reason, but why would you toast freshly home baked breadBeverley_C said:
Cooking is of great importance. I have just taken a freshly baked loaf out of the oven and shall shortly be enjoying really fresh bread, toasted and with a nice cup of green tea.foxinsoxuk said:
c'mon! This is a website where people discuss demographic weighting of polls in great detail Cooking is less boring to nearly all the great British public!RoyalBlue said:
Is there a worse kind of bore than one who cares how long other people like their steaks cooked?rkrkrk said:On topic... Ordering a steak medium well done or well done is just terrible. A crime against flavour and meat.
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No emoji? I'm disappointed...Beverley_C said:
Good night Mr Tysontyson said:On a positive note...I don't think after 12 years of posting here there is a single person I could say I dislike in the slightest....I just find you all mostly eccentric and just a little bit bonkers...
I think Beverley's comment about baking a baked loaf with a nice cup of green tea says it all..
Good night all.... 0 -
Teachers do need more holiday thoughmacisback said:
That's not a fully true assertion, Nurses and Teachers who make the most noise got over 3% on average in 15/16, very respectable. I have some sympathy with lower paid Public Sector workers, politics has been played with a lot of jobs in recent years.The_Apocalypse said:@Mortimer How does that counter the assertion that she has a billion quid to give to the DUP but no money for public sector workers? This looks bad for the Tories.
How can teachers complain though when performance is properly looked at, 40% are not at the level they should be at 11, over 50% are likely to fail this year at 16.0 -
Perhaps so. Of course pay rises without productivity gains is a recipe for disaster as the 1970s showed.Beverley_C said:
It just convinces me further that the recession has started its early phases.AndyJS said:"Worst decade for UK productivity since Napoleon
Not since the times of George III, Napoleon and war with America has the UK suffered such a long period of low productivity."
http://news.sky.com/story/worst-decade-for-uk-productivity-since-napolean-109383300 -
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I found it interesting that the productivity graph has been more or less level since 2008ish. It is almost like people gave up and just started marking time. It was so long ago we can hardly blame Brexit so what was going on?AndyJS said:
Perhaps so. Of course pay rises without productivity gains is a recipe for disaster as the 1970s showed.Beverley_C said:
It just convinces me further that the recession has started its early phases.AndyJS said:"Worst decade for UK productivity since Napoleon
Not since the times of George III, Napoleon and war with America has the UK suffered such a long period of low productivity."
http://news.sky.com/story/worst-decade-for-uk-productivity-since-napolean-109383300 -
Someone told me that Mr T is allergic to emoticonsRobD said:
No emoji? I'm disappointed...Beverley_C said:
Good night Mr Tysontyson said:On a positive note...I don't think after 12 years of posting here there is a single person I could say I dislike in the slightest....I just find you all mostly eccentric and just a little bit bonkers...
I think Beverley's comment about baking a baked loaf with a nice cup of green tea says it all..
Good night all....0 -
Beverley_C said:
It was so long ago we can hardly blame Brexit....AndyJS said:
Perhaps so. Of course pay rises without productivity gains is a recipe for disaster as the 1970s showed.Beverley_C said:
It just convinces me further that the recession has started its early phases.AndyJS said:"Worst decade for UK productivity since Napoleon
Not since the times of George III, Napoleon and war with America has the UK suffered such a long period of low productivity."
http://news.sky.com/story/worst-decade-for-uk-productivity-since-napolean-10938330
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We had the credit crunch and the economy shrank. In the early '80s and the early '90s recession led to mass unemployment. This time people stayed in work, but did less.Beverley_C said:
I found it interesting that the productivity graph has been more or less level since 2008ish. It is almost like people gave up and just started marking time. It was so long ago we can hardly blame Brexit so what was going on?AndyJS said:
Perhaps so. Of course pay rises without productivity gains is a recipe for disaster as the 1970s showed.Beverley_C said:
It just convinces me further that the recession has started its early phases.AndyJS said:"Worst decade for UK productivity since Napoleon
Not since the times of George III, Napoleon and war with America has the UK suffered such a long period of low productivity."
http://news.sky.com/story/worst-decade-for-uk-productivity-since-napolean-109383300 -
That makes sense, but why is it continuing?aschamberlain said:
We had the credit crunch and the economy shrank. In the early '80s and the early '90s recession led to mass unemployment. This time people stayed in work, but did less.Beverley_C said:
I found it interesting that the productivity graph has been more or less level since 2008ish. It is almost like people gave up and just started marking time. It was so long ago we can hardly blame Brexit so what was going on?AndyJS said:
Perhaps so. Of course pay rises without productivity gains is a recipe for disaster as the 1970s showed.Beverley_C said:
It just convinces me further that the recession has started its early phases.AndyJS said:"Worst decade for UK productivity since Napoleon
Not since the times of George III, Napoleon and war with America has the UK suffered such a long period of low productivity."
http://news.sky.com/story/worst-decade-for-uk-productivity-since-napolean-10938330
Anyway, goodnight all....0 -
In some possible branches of the future we will leave and in some possible branches we will stay. What more could any free thinker want.williamglenn said:
A shame to think what 2015 - 2020 could have been. We could have been dealing with low productivity and the nation's poor technical skills level. Instead Brexit consumes all.
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Brexit! 'NightBeverley_C said:
That makes sense, but why is it continuing?aschamberlain said:
We had the credit crunch and the economy shrank. In the early '80s and the early '90s recession led to mass unemployment. This time people stayed in work, but did less.Beverley_C said:
I found it interesting that the productivity graph has been more or less level since 2008ish. It is almost like people gave up and just started marking time. It was so long ago we can hardly blame Brexit so what was going on?AndyJS said:
Perhaps so. Of course pay rises without productivity gains is a recipe for disaster as the 1970s showed.Beverley_C said:
It just convinces me further that the recession has started its early phases.AndyJS said:"Worst decade for UK productivity since Napoleon
Not since the times of George III, Napoleon and war with America has the UK suffered such a long period of low productivity."
http://news.sky.com/story/worst-decade-for-uk-productivity-since-napolean-10938330
Anyway, goodnight all....0 -
Isn't it seen in other western economies too?aschamberlain said:
Brexit! 'NightBeverley_C said:
That makes sense, but why is it continuing?aschamberlain said:
We had the credit crunch and the economy shrank. In the early '80s and the early '90s recession led to mass unemployment. This time people stayed in work, but did less.Beverley_C said:
I found it interesting that the productivity graph has been more or less level since 2008ish. It is almost like people gave up and just started marking time. It was so long ago we can hardly blame Brexit so what was going on?AndyJS said:
Perhaps so. Of course pay rises without productivity gains is a recipe for disaster as the 1970s showed.Beverley_C said:
It just convinces me further that the recession has started its early phases.AndyJS said:"Worst decade for UK productivity since Napoleon
Not since the times of George III, Napoleon and war with America has the UK suffered such a long period of low productivity."
http://news.sky.com/story/worst-decade-for-uk-productivity-since-napolean-10938330
Anyway, goodnight all....0 -
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2017/jul/05/volvo-cars-electric-hybrid-2019
Volvo to stop making ICE-only cars from 2019 in favour of hybrids. The market agrees with Corbyn!0 -
Are you rethinking on Brexit Rob?RobD said:
Isn't it seen in other western economies too?aschamberlain said:
Brexit! 'NightBeverley_C said:
That makes sense, but why is it continuing?aschamberlain said:
We had the credit crunch and the economy shrank. In the early '80s and the early '90s recession led to mass unemployment. This time people stayed in work, but did less.Beverley_C said:
I found it interesting that the productivity graph has been more or less level since 2008ish. It is almost like people gave up and just started marking time. It was so long ago we can hardly blame Brexit so what was going on?AndyJS said:
Perhaps so. Of course pay rises without productivity gains is a recipe for disaster as the 1970s showed.Beverley_C said:
It just convinces me further that the recession has started its early phases.AndyJS said:"Worst decade for UK productivity since Napoleon
Not since the times of George III, Napoleon and war with America has the UK suffered such a long period of low productivity."
http://news.sky.com/story/worst-decade-for-uk-productivity-since-napolean-10938330
Anyway, goodnight all....0 -
No, I just wondered how it could be ascribed to Brexit if it was seen in other countries too.williamglenn said:
Are you rethinking on Brexit Rob?RobD said:
Isn't it seen in other western economies too?aschamberlain said:
Brexit! 'NightBeverley_C said:
That makes sense, but why is it continuing?aschamberlain said:
We had the credit crunch and the economy shrank. In the early '80s and the early '90s recession led to mass unemployment. This time people stayed in work, but did less.Beverley_C said:
I found it interesting that the productivity graph has been more or less level since 2008ish. It is almost like people gave up and just started marking time. It was so long ago we can hardly blame Brexit so what was going on?AndyJS said:
Perhaps so. Of course pay rises without productivity gains is a recipe for disaster as the 1970s showed.Beverley_C said:
It just convinces me further that the recession has started its early phases.AndyJS said:"Worst decade for UK productivity since Napoleon
Not since the times of George III, Napoleon and war with America has the UK suffered such a long period of low productivity."
http://news.sky.com/story/worst-decade-for-uk-productivity-since-napolean-10938330
Anyway, goodnight all....0 -
HYUFD
You miss my poin. The unionist parties have spent an entire week (aided by the UBC) telling everybody that Scotland was on the brink of recession despite employment being at an all time high and unemployment at a 30 year low.
Working themselves into a lather they bet the political farm on pinning the blame on the possibility of indy ref 2. Now there arguments have been confounded in spectacular style they retreat into silence.
Their flush is well and truly busted.0 -
Because indyref2 is no longer on the table.scotslass said:HYUFD
You miss my poin. The unionist parties have spent an entire week (aided by the UBC) telling everybody that Scotland was on the brink of recession despite employment being at an all time high and unemployment at a 30 year low.
Working themselves into a lather they bet the political farm on pinning the blame on the possibility of indy ref 2. Now there arguments have been confounded in spectacular style they retreat into silence.
Their flush is well and truly busted.
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Less fanfare, but probably of more significance than the Volvo news:
https://electrek.co/2017/07/05/daimler-battery-factory-china-mercedes-benzs-electric-cars/0
