If the best the Tories can do is to win 330 seats, then perhaps their problems run deeper than finding the right leader.
Regular reminder that the Tories haven't won a healthy majority since the fall of the Berlin Wall.
But, we've also had three elections in a row where Labour haven't come close to winning. Distrust for both main parties seems to run deep among much of the population.
Toxic Theresa . Sad to see OGH descend into the gutter. This nasty witch hunt has long since become tedious and disgusting.
OGH's name-calling has more than a dash of truth to it, though. When she was a big net benefit to her party in the months after her elevation, he acknowledged that. But you need to be blind not to see that she ran a terrible campaign, has trashed her "strong and stable" reputation, and has become toxic.
You might think the widespread public impression of May, and the fact it has fallen so far and so fast is unfair, and she's actually jolly nice. Perhaps you're right. But you can't seriously demand that people pretend it isn't happening on a betting website.
PB should be ahead of the pack rather than lamely following it.
If only someone on PB had been warning since last summer Theresa May was a pound shop Gordon Brown and such like.
I think it would be difficult to express the contempt to which your hero Osborne is held within genuine conservative circles. The man's a cad.
I had him down as more of a bounder.
The difference was recently explained to me.
A bounder would fight like a lion on the battlefield, and then seduce his Colonel's wife, when home on leave.
A cad would avoid the fighting, steal other mens' credit, and then seduce his Colonel's wife.
A friend of mine was slightly surprised that her daughter's school accepted without discussion a thirteen year old male student who decided to dress as a girl.
Think there might be about to be a Lib Dem leadership announcement of some form
Was a PB exclusive for 5 mins. Ed Davey is NOT running.
Looks like Vince Cable uncontested unless a new MP goes for it. Layla Moran is the only one I could possibly imagine (she's said she wants a contest) but looks like that's it and no membership ballot needed.
Wera Hobhouse or Tom Brake are further possibilities. I think there will be a contest. Nominations do not close until 20 July.
Think there might be about to be a Lib Dem leadership announcement of some form
Was a PB exclusive for 5 mins. Ed Davey is NOT running.
Looks like Vince Cable uncontested unless a new MP goes for it. Layla Moran is the only one I could possibly imagine (she's said she wants a contest) but looks like that's it and no membership ballot needed.
Wera Hobhouse or Tom Brake are further possibilities. I think there will be a contest. Nominations do not close until 20 July.
It's emasculated Sturgeon and punted IndyRef2 into the long grass. One threat gone to HMG flank.
Late Autumn 2018 is now "in the long grass"? Says a lot for the current political outlook.
+1
With the UK going into Brexit negotiations with a woefully unprepared population and political class and a government propped up by a party that thinks Brexit is an opportunity to screw the Irish republic, Sturgeon can just sit back and wait for it to fall into her lap.
Toxic Theresa . Sad to see OGH descend into the gutter. This nasty witch hunt has long since become tedious and disgusting.
OGH's name-calling has more than a dash of truth to it, though. When she was a big net benefit to her party in the months after her elevation, he acknowledged that. But you need to be blind not to see that she ran a terrible campaign, has trashed her "strong and stable" reputation, and has become toxic.
You might think the widespread public impression of May, and the fact it has fallen so far and so fast is unfair, and she's actually jolly nice. Perhaps you're right. But you can't seriously demand that people pretend it isn't happening on a betting website.
PB should be ahead of the pack rather than lamely following it.
If only someone on PB had been warning since last summer Theresa May was a pound shop Gordon Brown and such like.
I think it would be difficult to express the contempt to which your hero Osborne is held within genuine conservative circles. The man's a cad.
I had him down as more of a bounder.
The difference was recently explained to me.
A bounder would fight like a lion on the battlefield, and then seduce his Colonel's wife, when home on leave.
A cad would avoid the fighting, steal other mens' credit, and then seduce his Colonel's wife.
A friend of mine was slightly surprised that her daughter's school accepted without discussion a thirteen year old male student who decided to dress as a girl.
Think there might be about to be a Lib Dem leadership announcement of some form
Was a PB exclusive for 5 mins. Ed Davey is NOT running.
Looks like Vince Cable uncontested unless a new MP goes for it. Layla Moran is the only one I could possibly imagine (she's said she wants a contest) but looks like that's it and no membership ballot needed.
Wera Hobhouse or Tom Brake are further possibilities. I think there will be a contest. Nominations do not close until 20 July.
Toxic Theresa . Sad to see OGH descend into the gutter. This nasty witch hunt has long since become tedious and disgusting.
OGH's name-calling has more than a dash of truth to it, though. When she was a big net benefit to her party in the months after her elevation, he acknowledged that. But you need to be blind not to see that she ran a terrible campaign, has trashed her "strong and stable" reputation, and has become toxic.
You might think the widespread public impression of May, and the fact it has fallen so far and so fast is unfair, and she's actually jolly nice. Perhaps you're right. But you can't seriously demand that people pretend it isn't happening on a betting website.
PB should be ahead of the pack rather than lamely following it.
If only someone on PB had been warning since last summer Theresa May was a pound shop Gordon Brown and such like.
I think it would be difficult to express the contempt to which your hero Osborne is held within genuine conservative circles. The man's a cad.
I had him down as more of a bounder.
The difference was recently explained to me.
A bounder would fight like a lion on the battlefield, and then seduce his Colonel's wife, when home on leave.
A cad would avoid the fighting, steal other mens' credit, and then seduce his Colonel's wife.
A friend of mine was slightly surprised that her daughter's school accepted without discussion a thirteen year old male student who decided to dress as a girl.
Her daughter accused her of heteronormativity!
Is heteronormativity meant to be a bad thing?
I found it difficult to know when I looked it up in the dictionary. There doesn't seem to be any value judgement in the definition. But the school was in Edinburgh!
Think there might be about to be a Lib Dem leadership announcement of some form
Was a PB exclusive for 5 mins. Ed Davey is NOT running.
Looks like Vince Cable uncontested unless a new MP goes for it. Layla Moran is the only one I could possibly imagine (she's said she wants a contest) but looks like that's it and no membership ballot needed.
Wera Hobhouse or Tom Brake are further possibilities. I think there will be a contest. Nominations do not close until 20 July.
I'd like Wera to stand because she has an awesome name.
Toxic Theresa . Sad to see OGH descend into the gutter. This nasty witch hunt has long since become tedious and disgusting.
OGH's name-calling has more than a dash of truth to it, though. When she was a big net benefit to her party in the months after her elevation, he acknowledged that. But you need to be blind not to see that she ran a terrible campaign, has trashed her "strong and stable" reputation, and has become toxic.
You might think the widespread public impression of May, and the fact it has fallen so far and so fast is unfair, and she's actually jolly nice. Perhaps you're right. But you can't seriously demand that people pretend it isn't happening on a betting website.
PB should be ahead of the pack rather than lamely following it.
If only someone on PB had been warning since last summer Theresa May was a pound shop Gordon Brown and such like.
I think it would be difficult to express the contempt to which your hero Osborne is held within genuine conservative circles. The man's a cad.
I had him down as more of a bounder.
The difference was recently explained to me.
A bounder would fight like a lion on the battlefield, and then seduce his Colonel's wife, when home on leave.
A cad would avoid the fighting, steal other mens' credit, and then seduce his Colonel's wife.
A friend of mine was slightly surprised that her daughter's school accepted without discussion a thirteen year old male student who decided to dress as a girl.
Her daughter accused her of heteronormativity!
Is heteronormativity meant to be a bad thing?
I went to an excellent Hetronormativy Play, you know about cross dresser who was born in a stable somewhere in East Wanstead.
Credit, where credit is due. She has managed to select the option designed to maximise displeasure with both her supporters and her opponents. It's almost sublime.
Mr. P, Sturgeon's stance reminds me of Machiavelli's approach to taking sides. He said it was tempting to stand aloof, but doing so would be the most stupid course of action as it would antagonise both sides, who would later seek vengeance for the lack of assistance, whilst refusing the potential to gain a steadfast rely.
Her compromise has annoyed everyone and satisfied no-one.
How Theresa May abandoned David Cameron's playbook - and paid a terrible price
Theresa May lost because she rejected Cameroonism, but now his approach to party management is keeping her alive.
When hen she first became prime minister in 2016, Theresa May took an almost indecent glee in rolling back the era of David Cameron. His chancellor and closest ally, George Osborne, was sacked and the manner of his departure was briefed to the press. The Cameroon chumminess with the media was replaced by a layer of frost.
Cameron’s strategy of delivering austerity to the young while channelling every possible benefit to the old was abandoned, as was the conscious attempt to reach out to affluent ethnic minorities and social liberals.
Then on 8 June, it emerged that May had rolled back another Cameron project: the first Conservative parliamentary majority in two decades, squandered with three years of the parliament left to run.
Similarly, with just three words in her 2016 party conference speech – “citizens of nowhere” – May undid 11 years of good work among affluent ethnic minorities by David Cameron, who worked to reassure Britain’s ethnic middle classes that their interests were better served by voting with their economic interests, rather than against a Conservative Party still defined in the minds of many by Enoch Powell.
Think there might be about to be a Lib Dem leadership announcement of some form
Was a PB exclusive for 5 mins. Ed Davey is NOT running.
Looks like Vince Cable uncontested unless a new MP goes for it. Layla Moran is the only one I could possibly imagine (she's said she wants a contest) but looks like that's it and no membership ballot needed.
Wera Hobhouse or Tom Brake are further possibilities. I think there will be a contest. Nominations do not close until 20 July.
Toxic Theresa . Sad to see OGH descend into the gutter. This nasty witch hunt has long since become tedious and disgusting.
OGH's name-calling has more than a dash of truth to it, though. When she was a big net benefit to her party in the months after her elevation, he acknowledged that. But you need to be blind not to see that she ran a terrible campaign, has trashed her "strong and stable" reputation, and has become toxic.
You might think the widespread public impression of May, and the fact it has fallen so far and so fast is unfair, and she's actually jolly nice. Perhaps you're right. But you can't seriously demand that people pretend it isn't happening on a betting website.
PB should be ahead of the pack rather than lamely following it.
If only someone on PB had been warning since last summer Theresa May was a pound shop Gordon Brown and such like.
I think it would be difficult to express the contempt to which your hero Osborne is held within genuine conservative circles. The man's a cad.
I had him down as more of a bounder.
The difference was recently explained to me.
A bounder would fight like a lion on the battlefield, and then seduce his Colonel's wife, when home on leave.
A cad would avoid the fighting, steal other mens' credit, and then seduce his Colonel's wife.
A friend of mine was slightly surprised that her daughter's school accepted without discussion a thirteen year old male student who decided to dress as a girl.
Her daughter accused her of heteronormativity!
Is heteronormativity meant to be a bad thing?
I went to an excellent Hetronormativy Play, you know about cross dresser who was born in a stable somewhere in East Wanstead.
Similarly, with just three words in her 2016 party conference speech – “citizens of nowhere” – May undid 11 years of good work among affluent ethnic minorities by David Cameron, who worked to reassure Britain’s ethnic middle classes that their interests were better served by voting with their economic interests, rather than against a Conservative Party still defined in the minds of many by Enoch Powell.
Why can't 'ethnic minorities' be citizens of somewhere (eg Britain) and indeed welcomed and encouraged to become so?
How Theresa May abandoned David Cameron's playbook - and paid a terrible price
Theresa May lost because she rejected Cameroonism, but now his approach to party management is keeping her alive.
When hen she first became prime minister in 2016, Theresa May took an almost indecent glee in rolling back the era of David Cameron. His chancellor and closest ally, George Osborne, was sacked and the manner of his departure was briefed to the press. The Cameroon chumminess with the media was replaced by a layer of frost.
Cameron’s strategy of delivering austerity to the young while channelling every possible benefit to the old was abandoned, as was the conscious attempt to reach out to affluent ethnic minorities and social liberals.
Then on 8 June, it emerged that May had rolled back another Cameron project: the first Conservative parliamentary majority in two decades, squandered with three years of the parliament left to run.
Similarly, with just three words in her 2016 party conference speech – “citizens of nowhere” – May undid 11 years of good work among affluent ethnic minorities by David Cameron, who worked to reassure Britain’s ethnic middle classes that their interests were better served by voting with their economic interests, rather than against a Conservative Party still defined in the minds of many by Enoch Powell.
Why can't 'ethnic minorities' be citizens of somewhere (eg Britain) and indeed welcomed and encouraged to become so?
We are citizens of the UK/Britain/England/Wales/Scotland/Northern Ireland, both on paper and in state of mind.
How Theresa May abandoned David Cameron's playbook - and paid a terrible price
Theresa May lost because she rejected Cameroonism, but now his approach to party management is keeping her alive.
When hen she first became prime minister in 2016, Theresa May took an almost indecent glee in rolling back the era of David Cameron. His chancellor and closest ally, George Osborne, was sacked and the manner of his departure was briefed to the press. The Cameroon chumminess with the media was replaced by a layer of frost.
Cameron’s strategy of delivering austerity to the young while channelling every possible benefit to the old was abandoned, as was the conscious attempt to reach out to affluent ethnic minorities and social liberals.
Then on 8 June, it emerged that May had rolled back another Cameron project: the first Conservative parliamentary majority in two decades, squandered with three years of the parliament left to run.
No, first she didn't lose and second the poor performance (if getting more votes and share than Cameron ever did is 'poor') is down to the robotic charisma and pisspoor manifesto.
Similarly, with just three words in her 2016 party conference speech – “citizens of nowhere” – May undid 11 years of good work among affluent ethnic minorities by David Cameron, who worked to reassure Britain’s ethnic middle classes that their interests were better served by voting with their economic interests, rather than against a Conservative Party still defined in the minds of many by Enoch Powell.
Why can't 'ethnic minorities' be citizens of somewhere (eg Britain) and indeed welcomed and encouraged to become so?
The people May called 'Citizens of nowhere' were corporates who didn't pay tax weren't they?
How Theresa May abandoned David Cameron's playbook - and paid a terrible price
Theresa May lost because she rejected Cameroonism, but now his approach to party management is keeping her alive.
When hen she first became prime minister in 2016, Theresa May took an almost indecent glee in rolling back the era of David Cameron. His chancellor and closest ally, George Osborne, was sacked and the manner of his departure was briefed to the press. The Cameroon chumminess with the media was replaced by a layer of frost.
Cameron’s strategy of delivering austerity to the young while channelling every possible benefit to the old was abandoned, as was the conscious attempt to reach out to affluent ethnic minorities and social liberals.
Then on 8 June, it emerged that May had rolled back another Cameron project: the first Conservative parliamentary majority in two decades, squandered with three years of the parliament left to run.
That strategy would certainly have won the Conservatives a working majority this time, but I doubt if it's viable long term.
The mistake this time was taking benefits from the old, while offering nothing to the young.
I was chatting to a colleague the other day, and he said if you didn't follow politics closely, looking purely at the campaigns, you'd never realise it was the Tories who called a surprise election and not Labour, who should have been on the hop.
Similarly, with just three words in her 2016 party conference speech – “citizens of nowhere” – May undid 11 years of good work among affluent ethnic minorities by David Cameron, who worked to reassure Britain’s ethnic middle classes that their interests were better served by voting with their economic interests, rather than against a Conservative Party still defined in the minds of many by Enoch Powell.
Why can't 'ethnic minorities' be citizens of somewhere (eg Britain) and indeed welcomed and encouraged to become so?
It certainly struck me as rather prejudiced against ethnic minorities that they can't ever favour loyalty to this country over a generic global citizen mindset. I guess people like Priti Patel and Kwasi Kwarteng aren't supposed to exist.
You can tell by the rather visceral dislike of Theresa May that there are few things that upset the left more than a conservative woman. I suppose a conservative ethnic minority is one of those things.
How Theresa May abandoned David Cameron's playbook - and paid a terrible price
Theresa May lost because she rejected Cameroonism, but now his approach to party management is keeping her alive.
When hen she first became prime minister in 2016, Theresa May took an almost indecent glee in rolling back the era of David Cameron. His chancellor and closest ally, George Osborne, was sacked and the manner of his departure was briefed to the press. The Cameroon chumminess with the media was replaced by a layer of frost.
Cameron’s strategy of delivering austerity to the young while channelling every possible benefit to the old was abandoned, as was the conscious attempt to reach out to affluent ethnic minorities and social liberals.
Then on 8 June, it emerged that May had rolled back another Cameron project: the first Conservative parliamentary majority in two decades, squandered with three years of the parliament left to run.
That strategy would certainly have won the Conservatives a working majority this time, but I doubt if it's viable long term.
The mistake this time was taking benefits from the old, while offering nothing to the young.
I was chatting to a colleague the other day, and he said if you didn't follow politics closely, looking purely at the campaigns, you'd never realise it was the Tories who called a surprise election and not Labour, who should have been on the hop.
The other thing the Tories must not do next time is fail to turn up to the debates.
I have anecdotal evidence that that was a key factor with some swing voters.
Similarly, with just three words in her 2016 party conference speech – “citizens of nowhere” – May undid 11 years of good work among affluent ethnic minorities by David Cameron, who worked to reassure Britain’s ethnic middle classes that their interests were better served by voting with their economic interests, rather than against a Conservative Party still defined in the minds of many by Enoch Powell.
Why can't 'ethnic minorities' be citizens of somewhere (eg Britain) and indeed welcomed and encouraged to become so?
We are citizens of the UK/Britain/England/Wales/Scotland/Northern Ireland, both on paper and in state of mind.
Yes.. so.. why is it a bad thing to support the notion of citizenship? Especially amongst those who come to settle here?
Similarly, with just three words in her 2016 party conference speech – “citizens of nowhere” – May undid 11 years of good work among affluent ethnic minorities by David Cameron, who worked to reassure Britain’s ethnic middle classes that their interests were better served by voting with their economic interests, rather than against a Conservative Party still defined in the minds of many by Enoch Powell.
Why can't 'ethnic minorities' be citizens of somewhere (eg Britain) and indeed welcomed and encouraged to become so?
We are citizens of the UK/Britain/England/Wales/Scotland/Northern Ireland, both on paper and in state of mind.
Yes.. so.. why is it a bad thing to support the notion of citizenship? Especially amongst those who come to settle here?
I plan to cover that in a thread in the next few weeks.
Stephen Bush's analysis, like so many pro-Europeans, also ignores the inconvenient fact Theresa May set out her "citizen of nowhere" speech in October 2016, while her polling decline began in late May 2017. People are telling a yarn they want to believe, and they want others to believe, rather than one that reflects the facts.
How Theresa May abandoned David Cameron's playbook - and paid a terrible price
Theresa May lost because she rejected Cameroonism, but now his approach to party management is keeping her alive.
When hen she first became prime minister in 2016, Theresa May took an almost indecent glee in rolling back the era of David Cameron. His chancellor and closest ally, George Osborne, was sacked and the manner of his departure was briefed to the press. The Cameroon chumminess with the media was replaced by a layer of frost.
Cameron’s strategy of delivering austerity to the young while channelling every possible benefit to the old was abandoned, as was the conscious attempt to reach out to affluent ethnic minorities and social liberals.
Then on 8 June, it emerged that May had rolled back another Cameron project: the first Conservative parliamentary majority in two decades, squandered with three years of the parliament left to run.
That strategy would certainly have won the Conservatives a working majority this time, but I doubt if it's viable long term.
The mistake this time was taking benefits from the old, while offering nothing to the young.
I was chatting to a colleague the other day, and he said if you didn't follow politics closely, looking purely at the campaigns, you'd never realise it was the Tories who called a surprise election and not Labour, who should have been on the hop.
The other thing the Tories must not do next time is fail to turn up to the debates.
I have anecdotal evidence that that was a key factor with some swing voters.
It was, coupled with things like police numbers, it made Mrs May look shifty and evasive.
But yes, I agree, it should have had Ed Milliband there rather than Tony Blair. Unless the point was that younger leaders were more successful. (Ignoring Clegg 2015.)
How Theresa May abandoned David Cameron's playbook - and paid a terrible price
Theresa May lost because she rejected Cameroonism, but now his approach to party management is keeping her alive.
When hen she first became prime minister in 2016, Theresa May took an almost indecent glee in rolling back the era of David Cameron. His chancellor and closest ally, George Osborne, was sacked and the manner of his departure was briefed to the press. The Cameroon chumminess with the media was replaced by a layer of frost.
Cameron’s strategy of delivering austerity to the young while channelling every possible benefit to the old was abandoned, as was the conscious attempt to reach out to affluent ethnic minorities and social liberals.
Then on 8 June, it emerged that May had rolled back another Cameron project: the first Conservative parliamentary majority in two decades, squandered with three years of the parliament left to run.
How Theresa May abandoned David Cameron's playbook - and paid a terrible price
Theresa May lost because she rejected Cameroonism, but now his approach to party management is keeping her alive.
When hen she first became prime minister in 2016, Theresa May took an almost indecent glee in rolling back the era of David Cameron. His chancellor and closest ally, George Osborne, was sacked and the manner of his departure was briefed to the press. The Cameroon chumminess with the media was replaced by a layer of frost.
Cameron’s strategy of delivering austerity to the young while channelling every possible benefit to the old was abandoned, as was the conscious attempt to reach out to affluent ethnic minorities and social liberals.
Then on 8 June, it emerged that May had rolled back another Cameron project: the first Conservative parliamentary majority in two decades, squandered with three years of the parliament left to run.
That strategy would certainly have won the Conservatives a working majority this time, but I doubt if it's viable long term.
The mistake this time was taking benefits from the old, while offering nothing to the young.
I was chatting to a colleague the other day, and he said if you didn't follow politics closely, looking purely at the campaigns, you'd never realise it was the Tories who called a surprise election and not Labour, who should have been on the hop.
The other thing the Tories must not do next time is fail to turn up to the debates.
I have anecdotal evidence that that was a key factor with some swing voters.
It seemed disrespectful to the voters, and you can only run a Presidential campaign if your candidate behaves like a President.
How Theresa May abandoned David Cameron's playbook - and paid a terrible price
Theresa May lost because she rejected Cameroonism, but now his approach to party management is keeping her alive.
When hen she first became prime minister in 2016, Theresa May took an almost indecent glee in rolling back the era of David Cameron. His chancellor and closest ally, George Osborne, was sacked and the manner of his departure was briefed to the press. The Cameroon chumminess with the media was replaced by a layer of frost.
Cameron’s strategy of delivering austerity to the young while channelling every possible benefit to the old was abandoned, as was the conscious attempt to reach out to affluent ethnic minorities and social liberals.
Then on 8 June, it emerged that May had rolled back another Cameron project: the first Conservative parliamentary majority in two decades, squandered with three years of the parliament left to run.
How Theresa May abandoned David Cameron's playbook - and paid a terrible price
Theresa May lost because she rejected Cameroonism, but now his approach to party management is keeping her alive.
When hen she first became prime minister in 2016, Theresa May took an almost indecent glee in rolling back the era of David Cameron. His chancellor and closest ally, George Osborne, was sacked and the manner of his departure was briefed to the press. The Cameroon chumminess with the media was replaced by a layer of frost.
Cameron’s strategy of delivering austerity to the young while channelling every possible benefit to the old was abandoned, as was the conscious attempt to reach out to affluent ethnic minorities and social liberals.
Then on 8 June, it emerged that May had rolled back another Cameron project: the first Conservative parliamentary majority in two decades, squandered with three years of the parliament left to run.
That strategy would certainly have won the Conservatives a working majority this time, but I doubt if it's viable long term.
The mistake this time was taking benefits from the old, while offering nothing to the young.
I was chatting to a colleague the other day, and he said if you didn't follow politics closely, looking purely at the campaigns, you'd never realise it was the Tories who called a surprise election and not Labour, who should have been on the hop.
The other thing the Tories must not do next time is fail to turn up to the debates.
I have anecdotal evidence that that was a key factor with some swing voters.
It was, coupled with things like police numbers, it made Mrs May look shifty and evasive.
It was Farron's one and only good line of the campaign: "How dare you Theresa May, call a snap election and then fail to turn up for its debates."
It's going to be everywhere. This is a huge huge scandal erupting in front of us. And the inevitable inquiry will have to go into all the rest of the construction industry. What else is combustible? What else is going to need to be removed and replaced? Utter chaos incoming.
What cladding was, and will it pass checks. That's more to the point. It will still be everywhere though, if not on every building ever constructed. As the 100% failure rate in 32 authorities demonstrates.
This could easily go the way of the leaky homes scandal in New Zealand:
The cost is so great that it could effect NZ's credit rating. Essentially the Government won't be able to pay for all the repairs.
Building codes are now very strict in NZ but, of course, it has been a case of shutting the gate after the horse has bolted
Messy. Flammable shit pit living is de rigeur
At least we didn't do something as stupid as privatising building contr...... ooooohhh, shit.
Privatising what?
Building Control.
Hopefully the plans to do the same with Planning Control are now shelved.
Oh, the planning system? Sorry, was unfamiliar with that term.
Building Control and Planning Control are separate regimes. The latter remains entirely public.
I have yet to see any evidence that the Grenfell fire was anything to do with private Building Control services being available.
The best information I have is that the Building Control was by the Council, but that they possibly switched to working under a Building Notice (*) during the project. This is from reading the detailed planning documents and records.
Suspect that the stuff about "privatisation of bulding control" is as relevant as the attempted (and fake) narrative about a fire in a Council owned, essentially Council / tenant run, building saying something about private landlords.
Nor do I think that there is much comparison with the NZ leaky house history - airtightness and watertightness are far more fundamental that External Wall Insulation or cladding.
* - look this up. Life is too short to describe a Building Notice here.
How stupid would someone have to be to think that meant ethnic minorities?
What you mean is, "How stupid would you need to be to include the statement 'if you believe you’re a citizen of the world, you’re a citizen of nowhere' in an attack on big business?"
Similarly, with just three words in her 2016 party conference speech – “citizens of nowhere” – May undid 11 years of good work among affluent ethnic minorities by David Cameron, who worked to reassure Britain’s ethnic middle classes that their interests were better served by voting with their economic interests, rather than against a Conservative Party still defined in the minds of many by Enoch Powell.
Why can't 'ethnic minorities' be citizens of somewhere (eg Britain) and indeed welcomed and encouraged to become so?
It certainly struck me as rather prejudiced against ethnic minorities that they can't ever favour loyalty to this country over a generic global citizen mindset. I guess people like Priti Patel and Kwasi Kwarteng aren't supposed to exist.
You can tell by the rather visceral dislike of Theresa May that there are few things that upset the left more than a conservative woman. I suppose a conservative ethnic minority is one of those things.
It's wrong to assume that May is disliked because she is a conservative woman. I actually liked TMay when she became leader of the Conservative Party last year.
Also, I don't think Stephen Bush was saying anything about what ethnic minorities 'should' think, nor did he imply that ethnic minorities shouldn't/can't be conservative.
How stupid would someone have to be to think that meant ethnic minorities?
What you mean is, "How stupid would you need to be to include the statement 'if you believe you’re a citizen of the world, you’re a citizen of nowhere' in an attack on big business?"
Similarly, with just three words in her 2016 party conference speech – “citizens of nowhere” – May undid 11 years of good work among affluent ethnic minorities by David Cameron, who worked to reassure Britain’s ethnic middle classes that their interests were better served by voting with their economic interests, rather than against a Conservative Party still defined in the minds of many by Enoch Powell.
Why can't 'ethnic minorities' be citizens of somewhere (eg Britain) and indeed welcomed and encouraged to become so?
It certainly struck me as rather prejudiced against ethnic minorities that they can't ever favour loyalty to this country over a generic global citizen mindset. I guess people like Priti Patel and Kwasi Kwarteng aren't supposed to exist.
You can tell by the rather visceral dislike of Theresa May that there are few things that upset the left more than a conservative woman. I suppose a conservative ethnic minority is one of those things.
It's wrong to assume that May is disliked because she is a conservative woman. I actually liked TMay when she became leader of the Conservative Party last year.
Also, I don't think Stephen Bush was saying anything about what ethnic minorities 'should' think, nor did he imply that ethnic minorities shouldn't/can't be conservative.
She is disliked because she is conservative and doesn't want to overturn the electorate's decision on Brexit. She is viscerally disliked because she is a woman.
I don't know what the best strategy is for the Conservatives. Try to win back europhile liberals, in places like Battersea, Southgate, and Kensington? Or have such seats just gone the same way as Glasgow Hillhead, Manchester Withington, and Leeds NE and NW did, a generation ago? In which case, do they double down trying to win blue collar voters in places like Ashfield, Dudley North, Grimsby, in the same way Trump did?
How Theresa May abandoned David Cameron's playbook - and paid a terrible price
Theresa May lost because she rejected Cameroonism, but now his approach to party management is keeping her alive.
When hen she first became prime minister in 2016, Theresa May took an almost indecent glee in rolling back the era of David Cameron. His chancellor and closest ally, George Osborne, was sacked and the manner of his departure was briefed to the press. The Cameroon chumminess with the media was replaced by a layer of frost.
Cameron’s strategy of delivering austerity to the young while channelling every possible benefit to the old was abandoned, as was the conscious attempt to reach out to affluent ethnic minorities and social liberals.
Then on 8 June, it emerged that May had rolled back another Cameron project: the first Conservative parliamentary majority in two decades, squandered with three years of the parliament left to run.
That strategy would certainly have won the Conservatives a working majority this time, but I doubt if it's viable long term.
The mistake this time was taking benefits from the old, while offering nothing to the young.
I was chatting to a colleague the other day, and he said if you didn't follow politics closely, looking purely at the campaigns, you'd never realise it was the Tories who called a surprise election and not Labour, who should have been on the hop.
The other thing the Tories must not do next time is fail to turn up to the debates.
I have anecdotal evidence that that was a key factor with some swing voters.
The public aren't necessarily interested in policy but they can smell a rat from fifty paces. If you don't turn up to the debates you either have something to hide or you are so entitled you don't think you need bother make your case. For Mrs May probably a bit of both.
Think there might be about to be a Lib Dem leadership announcement of some form
Was a PB exclusive for 5 mins. Ed Davey is NOT running.
Looks like Vince Cable uncontested unless a new MP goes for it. Layla Moran is the only one I could possibly imagine (she's said she wants a contest) but looks like that's it and no membership ballot needed.
Wera Hobhouse or Tom Brake are further possibilities. I think there will be a contest. Nominations do not close until 20 July.
I'd like Wera to stand because she has an awesome name.
She was born in Hanover but married a Brit and is thus I think the second German-born MP ( unless anyone knows any other?)
I don't know what the best strategy is for the Conservatives. Try to win back europhile liberals, in places like Battersea, Southgate, and Kensington? Or have such seats just gone the same way as Glasgow Hillhead, Manchester Withington, and Leeds NE and NW did, a generation ago? In which case, do they double down trying to win blue collar voters in places like Ashfield, Dudley North, Grimsby, in the same way Trump did?
Movement in 2015 and 2017 suggests the latter. There is a WWC, kipper, socially neutral, work focused JAM vote to Hoover up. They are lost imo to liberal London.
I don't know what the best strategy is for the Conservatives. Try to win back europhile liberals, in places like Battersea, Southgate, and Kensington? Or have such seats just gone the same way as Glasgow Hillhead, Manchester Withington, and Leeds NE and NW did, a generation ago? In which case, do they double down trying to win blue collar voters in places like Ashfield, Dudley North, Grimsby, in the same way Trump did?
The second in the short term. Both in the long term.
Europhile liberals are and will remain angry at the British public for voting for Brexit for a decade. But they can not take their anger out on the British public, so they will instead take it out on the Conservatives for implementing the result.
What we can do is to remain internationalist in every way except for EU membership and most immigration. We should be pro-trade, pro-development, pro-international military alliances, pro-business and pro-high skilled immigration. Once the Brexit anger subsides, they will compare that to the protectionism and violence on the left.
Similarly, with just three words in her 2016 party conference speech – “citizens of nowhere” – May undid 11 years of good work among affluent ethnic minorities by David Cameron, who worked to reassure Britain’s ethnic middle classes that their interests were better served by voting with their economic interests, rather than against a Conservative Party still defined in the minds of many by Enoch Powell.
Why can't 'ethnic minorities' be citizens of somewhere (eg Britain) and indeed welcomed and encouraged to become so?
It certainly struck me as rather prejudiced against ethnic minorities that they can't ever favour loyalty to this country over a generic global citizen mindset. I guess people like Priti Patel and Kwasi Kwarteng aren't supposed to exist.
You can tell by the rather visceral dislike of Theresa May that there are few things that upset the left more than a conservative woman. I suppose a conservative ethnic minority is one of those things.
It's wrong to assume that May is disliked because she is a conservative woman. I actually liked TMay when she became leader of the Conservative Party last year.
Also, I don't think Stephen Bush was saying anything about what ethnic minorities 'should' think, nor did he imply that ethnic minorities shouldn't/can't be conservative.
She is disliked because she is conservative and doesn't want to overturn the electorate's decision on Brexit. She is viscerally disliked because she is a woman.
She had very good personal ratings as recently as April so I don't see how her unpopularity could suddenly be down to her gender and her being conservative. She even had decent ratings with Labour supporters, too.
Most don't expect TMay to 'overturn the electorate's decision on Brexit'. There are many though, who have long had concerns over a Hard Brexit and didn't appreciate being ignored by TMay when Brexit will affect all of us, not just those who voted to Leave.
Think there might be about to be a Lib Dem leadership announcement of some form
Was a PB exclusive for 5 mins. Ed Davey is NOT running.
Looks like Vince Cable uncontested unless a new MP goes for it. Layla Moran is the only one I could possibly imagine (she's said she wants a contest) but looks like that's it and no membership ballot needed.
Wera Hobhouse or Tom Brake are further possibilities. I think there will be a contest. Nominations do not close until 20 July.
I'd like Wera to stand because she has an awesome name.
She was born in Hanover but married a Brit and is thus I think the second German-born MP ( unless anyone knows any other?)
Think there might be about to be a Lib Dem leadership announcement of some form
Was a PB exclusive for 5 mins. Ed Davey is NOT running.
Looks like Vince Cable uncontested unless a new MP goes for it. Layla Moran is the only one I could possibly imagine (she's said she wants a contest) but looks like that's it and no membership ballot needed.
Wera Hobhouse or Tom Brake are further possibilities. I think there will be a contest. Nominations do not close until 20 July.
I'd like Wera to stand because she has an awesome name.
She was born in Hanover but married a Brit and is thus I think the second German-born MP ( unless anyone knows any other?)
Well the UK has a good history of when it was led by Hanoverians.
Similarly, with just three words in her 2016 party conference speech – “citizens of nowhere” – May undid 11 years of good work among affluent ethnic minorities by David Cameron, who worked to reassure Britain’s ethnic middle classes that their interests were better served by voting with their economic interests, rather than against a Conservative Party still defined in the minds of many by Enoch Powell.
Why can't 'ethnic minorities' be citizens of somewhere (eg Britain) and indeed welcomed and encouraged to become so?
It certainly struck me as rather prejudiced against ethnic minorities that they can't ever favour loyalty to this country over a generic global citizen mindset. I guess people like Priti Patel and Kwasi Kwarteng aren't supposed to exist.
You can tell by the rather visceral dislike of Theresa May that there are few things that upset the left more than a conservative woman. I suppose a conservative ethnic minority is one of those things.
It's wrong to assume that May is disliked because she is a conservative woman. I actually liked TMay when she became leader of the Conservative Party last year.
Also, I don't think Stephen Bush was saying anything about what ethnic minorities 'should' think, nor did he imply that ethnic minorities shouldn't/can't be conservative.
She is disliked because she is conservative and doesn't want to overturn the electorate's decision on Brexit. She is viscerally disliked because she is a woman.
If that was true her approval ratings 3 months ago would have been dire.
I don't know what the best strategy is for the Conservatives. Try to win back europhile liberals, in places like Battersea, Southgate, and Kensington? Or have such seats just gone the same way as Glasgow Hillhead, Manchester Withington, and Leeds NE and NW did, a generation ago? In which case, do they double down trying to win blue collar voters in places like Ashfield, Dudley North, Grimsby, in the same way Trump did?
Movement in 2015 and 2017 suggests the latter. There is a WWC, kipper, socially neutral, work focused JAM vote to Hoover up. They are lost imo to liberal London.
But for all that much of the white working-class might have Kipperish tendencies on social issues, they still often have a traditional Labour view on economics and public services - especially the more North you go.
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Or do silk stockings not go with sandals?
Her daughter accused her of heteronormativity!
Woof woof ....
Teflon has been overused and rather lost its lustre with Tony, so how about:
Magnet May?
She hasn't come unstuck just yet.
With the UK going into Brexit negotiations with a woefully unprepared population and political class and a government propped up by a party that thinks Brexit is an opportunity to screw the Irish republic, Sturgeon can just sit back and wait for it to fall into her lap.
Today she looked tired & ineffective.
https://twitter.com/ali_harper/status/879700680260411393
I imagine that Cable is best placed.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/40420670
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/879738480368246784
https://twitter.com/telepolitics/status/879738374092750848
Credit, where credit is due. She has managed to select the option designed to maximise displeasure with both her supporters and her opponents. It's almost sublime.
Her compromise has annoyed everyone and satisfied no-one.
How Theresa May abandoned David Cameron's playbook - and paid a terrible price
Theresa May lost because she rejected Cameroonism, but now his approach to party management is keeping her alive.
When hen she first became prime minister in 2016, Theresa May took an almost indecent glee in rolling back the era of David Cameron. His chancellor and closest ally, George Osborne, was sacked and the manner of his departure was briefed to the press. The Cameroon chumminess with the media was replaced by a layer of frost.
Cameron’s strategy of delivering austerity to the young while channelling every possible benefit to the old was abandoned, as was the conscious attempt to reach out to affluent ethnic minorities and social liberals.
Then on 8 June, it emerged that May had rolled back another Cameron project: the first Conservative parliamentary majority in two decades, squandered with three years of the parliament left to run.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2017/06/how-theresa-may-abandoned-david-camerons-playbook-and-paid-terrible-price
Best possible result, actually.
@election_data:
You'll see the Conservatives have now broken through the 50% barrier in rural Britain....You'll also see they have 'broken through' a little in Major and Large urban areas after stagnating between 2010 and 2015.
https://twitter.com/election_data/status/879732136034664448
Diane looks as if she's going to puke
https://twitter.com/brexitcentral/status/879367837810380800
The mistake this time was taking benefits from the old, while offering nothing to the young.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40416126
St Vince to the rescue.
Could he lead a national coalition of Con and Lab with the odd Lib Dem?
You can tell by the rather visceral dislike of Theresa May that there are few things that upset the left more than a conservative woman. I suppose a conservative ethnic minority is one of those things.
I have anecdotal evidence that that was a key factor with some swing voters.
But yes, I agree, it should have had Ed Milliband there rather than Tony Blair. Unless the point was that younger leaders were more successful. (Ignoring Clegg 2015.)
"But if you believe you’re a citizen of the world, you’re a citizen of nowhere. You don’t understand what the very word ‘citizenship’ means.
So if you’re a boss who earns a fortune but doesn’t look after your staff…
An international company that treats tax laws as an optional extra…
A household name that refuses to work with the authorities even to fight terrorism…
A director who takes out massive dividends while knowing that the company pension is about to go bust…
I’m putting you on warning. This can’t go on anymore."
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/05/theresa-mays-conference-speech-in-full/amp/
How stupid would someone have to be to think that meant ethnic minorities?
The best information I have is that the Building Control was by the Council, but that they possibly switched to working under a Building Notice (*) during the project. This is from reading the detailed planning documents and records.
Suspect that the stuff about "privatisation of bulding control" is as relevant as the attempted (and fake) narrative about a fire in a Council owned, essentially Council / tenant run, building saying something about private landlords.
Nor do I think that there is much comparison with the NZ leaky house history - airtightness and watertightness are far more fundamental that External Wall Insulation or cladding.
* - look this up. Life is too short to describe a Building Notice here.
Also, I don't think Stephen Bush was saying anything about what ethnic minorities 'should' think, nor did he imply that ethnic minorities shouldn't/can't be conservative.
I might ask them to institute a similar market for all premiership managers.
Europhile liberals are and will remain angry at the British public for voting for Brexit for a decade. But they can not take their anger out on the British public, so they will instead take it out on the Conservatives for implementing the result.
What we can do is to remain internationalist in every way except for EU membership and most immigration. We should be pro-trade, pro-development, pro-international military alliances, pro-business and pro-high skilled immigration. Once the Brexit anger subsides, they will compare that to the protectionism and violence on the left.
Most don't expect TMay to 'overturn the electorate's decision on Brexit'. There are many though, who have long had concerns over a Hard Brexit and didn't appreciate being ignored by TMay when Brexit will affect all of us, not just those who voted to Leave.
Poster boy Macron invites the Donald to Paris for 14 July celebrations
http://www.lefigaro.fr/elections/legislatives/2017/06/27/38001-20170627LIVWWW00008-en-direct-assemblee-nationale-emmanuel-macron-edouard-philippe-francois-de-rugy.php
Arlene Foster to head parade
Try again.