TM shouldn't be underestimated. She won't be going anywhere for some time.
My money would be on her leading the Conservatives into the next election. And, unless they fail to learn from the idiocy of their last campaign, there's an interesting punt to be had on them winning outright.
And, yes, toxic is a very silly choice of word.
The Prime Minister is such a wonderful campaigner that she turned a landslide into a hung parliament in little more than seven weeks. Accordingly I can't think of a single reason why the Conservatives wouldn't want Theresa May to lead them into the next general election.
TM shouldn't be underestimated. She won't be going anywhere for some time.
My money would be on her leading the Conservatives into the next election. And, unless they fail to learn from the idiocy of their last campaign, there's an interesting punt to be had on them winning outright.
And, yes, toxic is a very silly choice of word.
The Prime Minister is such a wonderful campaigner that she turned a landslide into a hung parliament in little more than seven weeks. Accordingly I can't think of a single reason why the Conservatives wouldn't want Theresa May to lead them into the next general election.
Shocking I know, but there it is.
True, although perhaps the polls were always wrong (and underweighting Labour).
Indeed, but at least the direction of travel is set. EU citizens "settled" from before 2017/19 will decline in number as time goes by (as will child benefit payments to EU citizens abroad for instance, - by the late 2030's that will be £0 one assumes), and so will become a smaller issue. In that sense, though not perfect, time will be on our side as the numbers UK courts do not 100% adjudicate on decline, and I suppose our "sovereignty quota" goes up. Back in the real world one would hope that any court would remain 100% fair and just, but the danger is that the ECJ will just be seen as biased whatever, by sections of the UK populace as the set up will be seen as lop sided if they got their way as they propose.
It's going to be everywhere. This is a huge huge scandal erupting in front of us. And the inevitable inquiry will have to go into all the rest of the construction industry. What else is combustible? What else is going to need to be removed and replaced? Utter chaos incoming.
TM shouldn't be underestimated. She won't be going anywhere for some time.
My money would be on her leading the Conservatives into the next election. And, unless they fail to learn from the idiocy of their last campaign, there's an interesting punt to be had on them winning outright.
And, yes, toxic is a very silly choice of word.
The Prime Minister is such a wonderful campaigner that she turned a landslide into a hung parliament in little more than seven weeks. Accordingly I can't think of a single reason why the Conservatives wouldn't want Theresa May to lead them into the next general election.
Shocking I know, but there it is.
True, although perhaps the polls were always wrong (and underweighting Labour).
Thing is though that YouGov (one of the most accurate pollsters by the end of the campaign, and never applied very aggressive turnout weightings) were showing as big a Tory lead as anyone right at the beginning.
It's going to be everywhere. This is a huge huge scandal erupting in front of us. And the inevitable inquiry will have to go into all the rest of the construction industry. What else is combustible? What else is going to need to be removed and replaced? Utter chaos incoming.
If Sturgeon carries on the way she has, she'll lose power at Holyrood in 2020 with Ruth Davidson as FM of a minority Tory administration, possibly even (shock horror) with Labour support to oust the SNP in a tacit Unionist alliance.
Zoomers will laugh, but no-one thought they'd lose 20 seats three weeks ago.
TM shouldn't be underestimated. She won't be going anywhere for some time.
My money would be on her leading the Conservatives into the next election. And, unless they fail to learn from the idiocy of their last campaign, there's an interesting punt to be had on them winning outright.
And, yes, toxic is a very silly choice of word.
The Prime Minister is such a wonderful campaigner that she turned a landslide into a hung parliament in little more than seven weeks. Accordingly I can't think of a single reason why the Conservatives wouldn't want Theresa May to lead them into the next general election.
Shocking I know, but there it is.
True, although perhaps the polls were always wrong (and underweighting Labour).
Thing is though that YouGov (one of the most accurate pollsters by the end of the campaign) were showing as big a Tory lead as anyone right at the beginning.
The Tory lead was probably around 18 pts at the start of the campaign, Labour just picked up almost every undecided voter is all, and had around a 1 pt "ballot box" switch.
It's going to be everywhere. This is a huge huge scandal erupting in front of us. And the inevitable inquiry will have to go into all the rest of the construction industry. What else is combustible? What else is going to need to be removed and replaced? Utter chaos incoming.
What cladding was, and will it pass checks. That's more to the point. It will still be everywhere though, if not on every building ever constructed. As the 100% failure rate in 32 authorities demonstrates.
TM shouldn't be underestimated. She won't be going anywhere for some time.
My money would be on her leading the Conservatives into the next election. And, unless they fail to learn from the idiocy of their last campaign, there's an interesting punt to be had on them winning outright.
And, yes, toxic is a very silly choice of word.
The Prime Minister is such a wonderful campaigner that she turned a landslide into a hung parliament in little more than seven weeks. Accordingly I can't think of a single reason why the Conservatives wouldn't want Theresa May to lead them into the next general election.
Shocking I know, but there it is.
True, although perhaps the polls were always wrong (and underweighting Labour).
The local elections suggested otherwise. Sure enough locals =/= generals and they only include parts of the country but the Tories taking the metro mayoralties in West Midlands, Tees Valley, and West of England backed up the 15-20% leads.
TM shouldn't be underestimated. She won't be going anywhere for some time.
My money would be on her leading the Conservatives into the next election. And, unless they fail to learn from the idiocy of their last campaign, there's an interesting punt to be had on them winning outright.
And, yes, toxic is a very silly choice of word.
It seems that she was being overestimated before the GE, remember the Battlebus with her name and signature it large lettering. It's possible that it's swung the other way now, I suppose - but I'm not going to bet on it. The Tories even with the DUP have a tiny majority. I can't see them getting much done before the next GE apart from Brexit, which they have to do, and the chances of that going wrong are not negligeable.
And that might be great. Less people having "big ideas" and generally screwing things up (cf Mr N Timothy?).
Didn't Belgium last 13 months without one? Doesn't Texas limit the number of days politicians can sit so they have less time to think up damn fool ideas because they think they need to be seen doing things? Cynical maybe a tad, but a thought.
TM shouldn't be underestimated. She won't be going anywhere for some time.
My money would be on her leading the Conservatives into the next election. And, unless they fail to learn from the idiocy of their last campaign, there's an interesting punt to be had on them winning outright.
And, yes, toxic is a very silly choice of word.
The Prime Minister is such a wonderful campaigner that she turned a landslide into a hung parliament in little more than seven weeks. Accordingly I can't think of a single reason why the Conservatives wouldn't want Theresa May to lead them into the next general election.
Shocking I know, but there it is.
True, although perhaps the polls were always wrong (and underweighting Labour).
Thing is though that YouGov (one of the most accurate pollsters by the end of the campaign, and never applied very aggressive turnout weightings) were showing as big a Tory lead as anyone right at the beginning.
I know, I'm partly trying to convince myself.
But then, how did yougov and ICM diverge so much? Presumably they didn't both radically change their methodology over the 6 weeks (although I know yougov got wobbly right at the end, and herded)
TM shouldn't be underestimated. She won't be going anywhere for some time.
My money would be on her leading the Conservatives into the next election. And, unless they fail to learn from the idiocy of their last campaign, there's an interesting punt to be had on them winning outright.
And, yes, toxic is a very silly choice of word.
It seems that she was being overestimated before the GE, remember the Battlebus with her name and signature it large lettering. It's possible that it's swung the other way now, I suppose - but I'm not going to bet on it. The Tories even with the DUP have a tiny majority. I can't see them getting much done before the next GE apart from Brexit, which they have to do, and the chances of that going wrong are not negligeable.
And that might be great. Less people having "big ideas" and generally screwing things up (cf Mr N Timothy?).
Didn't Belgium last 13 months without one? Doesn't Texas limit the number of days politicians can sit so they have less time to think up damn fool ideas because they think they need to be seen doing things? Cynical maybe a tad, but a thought.
TM shouldn't be underestimated. She won't be going anywhere for some time.
My money would be on her leading the Conservatives into the next election. And, unless they fail to learn from the idiocy of their last campaign, there's an interesting punt to be had on them winning outright.
And, yes, toxic is a very silly choice of word.
The Prime Minister is such a wonderful campaigner that she turned a landslide into a hung parliament in little more than seven weeks. Accordingly I can't think of a single reason why the Conservatives wouldn't want Theresa May to lead them into the next general election.
Shocking I know, but there it is.
True, although perhaps the polls were always wrong (and underweighting Labour).
I understand why the polling was wrong in most cases but May was found out. She met a perfect storm of an awful campaign topped by a spectacular own goal manifesto and a well seasoned campaigner in Jezza who energized the under 35 vote and offered to end austerity.
If Grenfell had happened a week earlier we would be looking at Prime Minister Corbyn and numerous PB Tories on suicide watch.
It's going to be everywhere. This is a huge huge scandal erupting in front of us. And the inevitable inquiry will have to go into all the rest of the construction industry. What else is combustible? What else is going to need to be removed and replaced? Utter chaos incoming.
What cladding was, and will it pass checks. That's more to the point. It will still be everywhere though, if not on every building ever constructed. As the 100% failure rate in 32 authorities demonstrates.
This could easily go the way of the leaky homes scandal in New Zealand:
It's going to be everywhere. This is a huge huge scandal erupting in front of us. And the inevitable inquiry will have to go into all the rest of the construction industry. What else is combustible? What else is going to need to be removed and replaced? Utter chaos incoming.
What cladding was, and will it pass checks. That's more to the point. It will still be everywhere though, if not on every building ever constructed. As the 100% failure rate in 32 authorities demonstrates.
This could easily go the way of the leaky homes scandal in New Zealand:
If Sturgeon carries on the way she has, she'll lose power at Holyrood in 2020 with Ruth Davidson as FM of a minority Tory administration, possibly even (shock horror) with Labour support to oust the SNP in a tacit Unionist alliance.
Zoomers will laugh, but no-one thought they'd lose 20 seats three weeks ago.
Coral have a next Scottish FM market. Ruth is 3/1. I'm more tempted by Kezia at 8/1. If the SNP really shrink I think they'll lose a lot more of the their voters back to SLab then to SCon.
On topic, the post-election window for her to be ejected has now closed. A deal has been done, rightly or wrongly, with the DUP and that'll now have to be maintained in at least the short term. May is therefore probably safe until into 2018. I disagree with Mike's inference that 'there'll always be a reason not to act' means that the Party won't act. Yes, there'll be reasons not to but we can't guarantee that they'll be clinching reasons.
As for the Toxic Theresa nonsense, sure, her ratings are way poorer than they were two months ago but they're still fairly routine for a sitting PM (although they're not routine for one who's just won an election). And her party did win 13.6m votes: within half a million of the highest total that any party has polled. Indeed, despite losing seats, it did just about win the election. If she's toxic, what does that say about her opponents?
It's going to be everywhere. This is a huge huge scandal erupting in front of us. And the inevitable inquiry will have to go into all the rest of the construction industry. What else is combustible? What else is going to need to be removed and replaced? Utter chaos incoming.
What cladding was, and will it pass checks. That's more to the point. It will still be everywhere though, if not on every building ever constructed. As the 100% failure rate in 32 authorities demonstrates.
This could easily go the way of the leaky homes scandal in New Zealand:
They're very common again now, and most of the immediate problems have been ironed out, if built by reputable and careful tradesmen. But it took two decades for the reputation to recover.
Another big up-and-coming scandal will be over cavity insulation in existing homes. A ticking time-bomb.
* Focus on Brexit, not the other silly changes they wanted to make
* More inclusive Brexit with all of E&W, Scotland, and NI being part of it.
* Warnings about how Corbyn & co operate (& how effective it can be)
Errr ....
All of those were happening or planed before May's vanity election.
Huh? How did we know what Corbyn would be like in the GE before we had the GE ?
You mean you hadn't noticed that Corbyn had reveled in (lost) campaign mode for 35 years and was good at it?
It's a view.
So you are saying that everyone in the Tory party knew how Corbyn, backed by McDonnell and Milne, would operate? How they would hoover up the undecideds? How they would come close to almost winning?
And knowing all this the Tories choose to have an election anyway?
It's going to be everywhere. This is a huge huge scandal erupting in front of us. And the inevitable inquiry will have to go into all the rest of the construction industry. What else is combustible? What else is going to need to be removed and replaced? Utter chaos incoming.
What cladding was, and will it pass checks. That's more to the point. It will still be everywhere though, if not on every building ever constructed. As the 100% failure rate in 32 authorities demonstrates.
This could easily go the way of the leaky homes scandal in New Zealand:
They're very common again now, and most of the immediate problems have been ironed out, if built by reputable and careful tradesmen. But it took two decades for the reputation to recover.
Another big up-and-coming scandal will be over cavity insulation in existing homes. A ticking time-bomb.
"Another big up-and-coming scandal will be over cavity insulation in existing homes. A ticking time-bomb"
Is that where they inject stuff into the walls? What is the danger there?
Hammond's speech is really extraordinary when you consider that the message it conveys is that the longer the UK holds out, the stronger the EU's negotiating position becomes.
It's going to be everywhere. This is a huge huge scandal erupting in front of us. And the inevitable inquiry will have to go into all the rest of the construction industry. What else is combustible? What else is going to need to be removed and replaced? Utter chaos incoming.
What cladding was, and will it pass checks. That's more to the point. It will still be everywhere though, if not on every building ever constructed. As the 100% failure rate in 32 authorities demonstrates.
This could easily go the way of the leaky homes scandal in New Zealand:
They're very common again now, and most of the immediate problems have been ironed out, if built by reputable and careful tradesmen. But it took two decades for the reputation to recover.
Another big up-and-coming scandal will be over cavity insulation in existing homes. A ticking time-bomb.
"Another big up-and-coming scandal will be over cavity insulation in existing homes. A ticking time-bomb"
Is that where they inject stuff into the walls? What is the danger there?
Cavity walls are not there for insulation: they are to prevent damp. Filling them up can create damp problems, especially if care is not taken in the filling.
There are two main types of insulation: *) Sheet insulation attached to the outside of the innerskin wall of new builds. *) Insulation pumped into the cavity of existing houses.
In the case of the former, sheets can fall off, blocking the cavity and allowing water a path between the walls, allowing damp in. In the latter, if the insulation compacts over time, it can allow moisture through and create damp. I expect there to be many more cases of the latter as time goes on. And as the companies providing the service will long have gone out of business, it'll be up to the homeowner or government to pay the bills for removing the stuff.
It's going to be everywhere. This is a huge huge scandal erupting in front of us. And the inevitable inquiry will have to go into all the rest of the construction industry. What else is combustible? What else is going to need to be removed and replaced? Utter chaos incoming.
What cladding was, and will it pass checks. That's more to the point. It will still be everywhere though, if not on every building ever constructed. As the 100% failure rate in 32 authorities demonstrates.
This could easily go the way of the leaky homes scandal in New Zealand:
The cost is so great that it could effect NZ's credit rating. Essentially the Government won't be able to pay for all the repairs.
Building codes are now very strict in NZ but, of course, it has been a case of shutting the gate after the horse has bolted
They're very common again now, and most of the immediate problems have been ironed out, if built by reputable and careful tradesmen. But it took two decades for the reputation to recover.
Another big up-and-coming scandal will be over cavity insulation in existing homes. A ticking time-bomb.
"Another big up-and-coming scandal will be over cavity insulation in existing homes. A ticking time-bomb"
Is that where they inject stuff into the walls? What is the danger there?
Cavity walls are not there for insulation: they are to prevent damp. Filling them up can create damp problems, especially if care is not taken in the filling.
There are two main types of insulation: *) Sheet insulation attached to the outside of the innerskin wall of new builds. *) Insulation pumped into the cavity of existing houses.
In the case of the former, sheets can fall off, blocking the cavity and allowing water a path between the walls, allowing damp in. In the latter, if the insulation compacts over time, it can allow moisture through and create damp. I expect there to be many more cases of the latter as time goes on. And as the companies providing the service will long have gone out of business, it'll be up to the homeowner or government to pay the bills for removing the stuff.
Oh cheers. My mum was worrying about this yesterday, although she was more concerned the house might burn down! Their house was built in 1979 so maybe its ok
* Focus on Brexit, not the other silly changes they wanted to make
* More inclusive Brexit with all of E&W, Scotland, and NI being part of it.
* Warnings about how Corbyn & co operate (& how effective it can be)
Errr ....
All of those were happening or planed before May's vanity election.
Huh? How did we know what Corbyn would be like in the GE before we had the GE ?
You mean you hadn't noticed that Corbyn had reveled in (lost) campaign mode for 35 years and was good at it?
It's a view.
So you are saying that everyone in the Tory party knew how Corbyn, backed by McDonnell and Milne, would operate? How they would hoover up the undecideds? How they would come close to almost winning?
And knowing all this the Tories choose to have an election anyway?
I'm saying the fact that Corbyn was a good campaigner was widely known and that the Tories believed that this single ace would be trumped by their three aces of "strong and stable", "coalition of chaos" and "enough is enough".
Lynton Crosby warned against an early election and was ignored and the rest is, as they say, a hung parliament.
It's going to be everywhere. This is a huge huge scandal erupting in front of us. And the inevitable inquiry will have to go into all the rest of the construction industry. What else is combustible? What else is going to need to be removed and replaced? Utter chaos incoming.
What cladding was, and will it pass checks. That's more to the point. It will still be everywhere though, if not on every building ever constructed. As the 100% failure rate in 32 authorities demonstrates.
This could easily go the way of the leaky homes scandal in New Zealand:
Just had an interesting conversation with a Corbyn loyalist. Last time we met we argued.
An MP I know had just resigned from Labour's front bench because Corbyn was crap and she thought he was the best leader they had ever had.
Looking like an escapee from Greenham Common I congratulated her on being right and apologised for doubting her.
....Well on the left things change very fast! She spurned my congratulations and said McDonnell was now destroying the party by doing a volte face on public services and resiling from their position on Europe.
It's her belief that the youth vote is not the happy clappy hippies we saw at Glastonbury. Being a serious activist she has her ear closer to the ground than I do so things on the left might be more interesting than they look
It's going to be everywhere. This is a huge huge scandal erupting in front of us. And the inevitable inquiry will have to go into all the rest of the construction industry. What else is combustible? What else is going to need to be removed and replaced? Utter chaos incoming.
What cladding was, and will it pass checks. That's more to the point. It will still be everywhere though, if not on every building ever constructed. As the 100% failure rate in 32 authorities demonstrates.
This could easily go the way of the leaky homes scandal in New Zealand:
Hammond's speech is really extraordinary when you consider that the message it conveys is that the longer the UK holds out, the stronger the EU's negotiating position becomes.
It's in the UK's firm interest to move as quickly as possible to a position that is as near as possible to what we have already. Of course it would be better not to move at all, but we voted against that...
....Well on the left things change very fast! She spurned my congratulations and said McDonnell was now destroying the party by doing a volte face on public services and resiling from their position on Europe.
She did realise that labours position was 'effectively' the same as the tories, didn't she?
It's going to be everywhere. This is a huge huge scandal erupting in front of us. And the inevitable inquiry will have to go into all the rest of the construction industry. What else is combustible? What else is going to need to be removed and replaced? Utter chaos incoming.
What cladding was, and will it pass checks. That's more to the point. It will still be everywhere though, if not on every building ever constructed. As the 100% failure rate in 32 authorities demonstrates.
This could easily go the way of the leaky homes scandal in New Zealand:
* Focus on Brexit, not the other silly changes they wanted to make
* More inclusive Brexit with all of E&W, Scotland, and NI being part of it.
* Warnings about how Corbyn & co operate (& how effective it can be)
Errr ....
All of those were happening or planed before May's vanity election.
Huh? How did we know what Corbyn would be like in the GE before we had the GE ?
You mean you hadn't noticed that Corbyn had reveled in (lost) campaign mode for 35 years and was good at it?
It's a view.
It is I never thought Corbyn could do as well as he did.However I should have noted that he got a really good reception when he visited flood victims in York in Dec 2015.A work colleague of mine who was flooded said to me that he spent lots of time with his family and their neighbours on his visit and he was impressed .I walked through York city centre in May meeting a friend for a coffee and the crowd was huge as Corbyn was holding a rally.For the first time ever in York Outer, I had a Labour canvasser at my door.I took my daughter to vote in York Central there was a queue in 2015 it was empty .Yet I took none of this as evidence and still thought the election was a foregone conclusion.The Labour majority in York central was huge and in York Outer Labour got 21000 the Conservatives got 25000 , Labour normally get 8000.The change is dramatic but I preferred to believe the commentators on here and the polls.As everyone said the worst poll for Labour will be the correct one.I give Corbyn his due he changed the perceived wisdom , I was wrong and my young daughters who were enthused were correct things can change and he changed them.
I cannot agree that the response to May has been pathetic thus far. Until they secure themselves inasmuch as possible as the government again, it is riskier to jettison her immediately, even if it means she will get a year or more before they can oust her properly.
Toxic Theresa . Sad to see OGH descend into the gutter. This nasty witch hunt has long since become tedious and disgusting.
OGH's name-calling has more than a dash of truth to it, though. When she was a big net benefit to her party in the months after her elevation, he acknowledged that. But you need to be blind not to see that she ran a terrible campaign, has trashed her "strong and stable" reputation, and has become toxic.
You might think the widespread public impression of May, and the fact it has fallen so far and so fast is unfair, and she's actually jolly nice. Perhaps you're right. But you can't seriously demand that people pretend it isn't happening on a betting website.
Toxic doesn't feel like the right word, though. She is just hopeless, and damaged, not poisonous.
I think she's not up to it, but some people seem to have a very personal kind of dislike for her..
It's going to be everywhere. This is a huge huge scandal erupting in front of us. And the inevitable inquiry will have to go into all the rest of the construction industry. What else is combustible? What else is going to need to be removed and replaced? Utter chaos incoming.
What cladding was, and will it pass checks. That's more to the point. It will still be everywhere though, if not on every building ever constructed. As the 100% failure rate in 32 authorities demonstrates.
This could easily go the way of the leaky homes scandal in New Zealand:
I cannot agree that the response to May has been pathetic thus far. Until they secure themselves inasmuch as possible as the government again, it is riskier to jettison her immediately, even if it means she will get a year or more before they can oust her properly.
Under normal circumstances, but Brexit negotiations mean circumstances are far from normal. There are eight quarters from triggering Article 50 to either a deal or Hard Brexit. May has frittered one away on a failed gamble. Her colleagues really aren't in a good position to p1ss three or four more up the wall umming and erring over whether and when to ditch May if they also want to negotiate a face-saving deal.
Toxic Theresa . Sad to see OGH descend into the gutter. This nasty witch hunt has long since become tedious and disgusting.
OGH's name-calling has more than a dash of truth to it, though. When she was a big net benefit to her party in the months after her elevation, he acknowledged that. But you need to be blind not to see that she ran a terrible campaign, has trashed her "strong and stable" reputation, and has become toxic.
You might think the widespread public impression of May, and the fact it has fallen so far and so fast is unfair, and she's actually jolly nice. Perhaps you're right. But you can't seriously demand that people pretend it isn't happening on a betting website.
PB should be ahead of the pack rather than lamely following it.
If only someone on PB had been warning since last summer Theresa May was a pound shop Gordon Brown and such like.
I think it would be difficult to express the contempt to which your hero Osborne is held within genuine conservative circles. The man's a cad.
I had him down as more of a bounder.
The difference was recently explained to me.
A bounder would fight like a lion on the battlefield, and then seduce his Colonel's wife, when home on leave.
A cad would avoid the fighting, steal other mens' credit, and then seduce his Colonel's wife.
....Well on the left things change very fast! She spurned my congratulations and said McDonnell was now destroying the party by doing a volte face on public services and resiling from their position on Europe.
She did realise that labours position was 'effectively' the same as the tories, didn't she?
I can't answer that because I don't know Labour's position on Europe but she was a steadfast Remainer so I assume Labour were but now aren't
I never thought Corbyn could do as well as he did.However I should have noted that he got a really good reception when he visited flood victims in York in Dec 2015.A work colleague of mine who was flooded said to me that he spent lots of time with his family and their neighbours on his visit and he was impressed .I walked through York city centre in May meeting a friend for a coffee and the crowd was huge as Corbyn was holding a rally.For the first time ever in York Outer, I had a Labour canvasser at my door.I took my daughter to vote in York Central there was a queue in 2015 it was empty .Yet I took none of this as evidence and still thought the election was a foregone conclusion.The Labour majority in York central was huge and in York Outer Labour got 21000 the Conservatives got 25000 , Labour normally get 8000.The change is dramatic but I preferred to believe the commentators on here and the polls.As everyone said the worst poll for Labour will be the correct one.I give Corbyn his due he changed the perceived wisdom , I was wrong and my young daughters who were enthused were correct things can change and he changed them.
The under 35 vote was the most astonishing aspect of the election. The great unwashed youth and those desperate to be nearer their salad days than middle age actually bothered to vote. The BREXIT vote helped to mobilize them to believe that exercising their franchise actually mattered.
Just had an interesting conversation with a Corbyn loyalist. Last time we met we argued.
An MP I know had just resigned from Labour's front bench because Corbyn was crap and she thought he was the best leader they had ever had.
Looking like an escapee from Greenham Common I congratulated her on being right and apologised for doubting her.
....Well on the left things change very fast! She spurned my congratulations and said McDonnell was now destroying the party by doing a volte face on public services and resiling from their position on Europe.
It's her belief that the youth vote is not the happy clappy hippies we saw at Glastonbury. Being a serious activist she has her ear closer to the ground than I do so things on the left might be more interesting than they look
It's blackly funny that some young well-off EU philes haven't realised they were voting for someone who wants to leave the EU to achieve radical socialism in the UK.
Toxic Theresa . Sad to see OGH descend into the gutter. This nasty witch hunt has long since become tedious and disgusting.
OGH's name-calling has more than a dash of truth to it, though. When she was a big net benefit to her party in the months after her elevation, he acknowledged that. But you need to be blind not to see that she ran a terrible campaign, has trashed her "strong and stable" reputation, and has become toxic.
You might think the widespread public impression of May, and the fact it has fallen so far and so fast is unfair, and she's actually jolly nice. Perhaps you're right. But you can't seriously demand that people pretend it isn't happening on a betting website.
Toxic doesn't feel like the right word, though. She is just hopeless, and damaged, not poisonous.
some people seem to have a very personal kind of dislike for her..
Toxic Theresa . Sad to see OGH descend into the gutter. This nasty witch hunt has long since become tedious and disgusting.
OGH's name-calling has more than a dash of truth to it, though. When she was a big net benefit to her party in the months after her elevation, he acknowledged that. But you need to be blind not to see that she ran a terrible campaign, has trashed her "strong and stable" reputation, and has become toxic.
You might think the widespread public impression of May, and the fact it has fallen so far and so fast is unfair, and she's actually jolly nice. Perhaps you're right. But you can't seriously demand that people pretend it isn't happening on a betting website.
Toxic doesn't feel like the right word, though. She is just hopeless, and damaged, not poisonous.
I think she's not up to it, but some people seem to have a very personal kind of dislike for her..
They do someone on here said she looked 70 . I thought one it was harsh and definitely uncalled for.
Toxic Theresa . Sad to see OGH descend into the gutter. This nasty witch hunt has long since become tedious and disgusting.
OGH's name-calling has more than a dash of truth to it, though. When she was a big net benefit to her party in the months after her elevation, he acknowledged that. But you need to be blind not to see that she ran a terrible campaign, has trashed her "strong and stable" reputation, and has become toxic.
You might think the widespread public impression of May, and the fact it has fallen so far and so fast is unfair, and she's actually jolly nice. Perhaps you're right. But you can't seriously demand that people pretend it isn't happening on a betting website.
Toxic doesn't feel like the right word, though. She is just hopeless, and damaged, not poisonous.
I think she's not up to it, but some people seem to have a very personal kind of dislike for her..
There are always some people who have a strong dislike for a politician, for whatever reason.
TMay's latest favourability rating was -34, which is pretty poor and 13 points worse than the Conservative Party but it's not abnormally low. I agree that 'toxic' is too strong a word though.
It's going to be everywhere. This is a huge huge scandal erupting in front of us. And the inevitable inquiry will have to go into all the rest of the construction industry. What else is combustible? What else is going to need to be removed and replaced? Utter chaos incoming.
What cladding was, and will it pass checks. That's more to the point. It will still be everywhere though, if not on every building ever constructed. As the 100% failure rate in 32 authorities demonstrates.
This could easily go the way of the leaky homes scandal in New Zealand:
Think there might be about to be a Lib Dem leadership announcement of some form
Was a PB exclusive for 5 mins. Ed Davey is NOT running.
Looks like Vince Cable uncontested unless a new MP goes for it. Layla Moran is the only one I could possibly imagine (she's said she wants a contest) but looks like that's it and no membership ballot needed.
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Shocking I know, but there it is.
@ Topping
Indeed, but at least the direction of travel is set. EU citizens "settled" from before 2017/19 will decline in number as time goes by (as will child benefit payments to EU citizens abroad for instance, - by the late 2030's that will be £0 one assumes), and so will become a smaller issue. In that sense, though not perfect, time will be on our side as the numbers UK courts do not 100% adjudicate on decline, and I suppose our "sovereignty quota" goes up. Back in the real world one would hope that any court would remain 100% fair and just, but the danger is that the ECJ will just be seen as biased whatever, by sections of the UK populace as the set up will be seen as lop sided if they got their way as they propose.
Utter chaos incoming.
Zoomers will laugh, but no-one thought they'd lose 20 seats three weeks ago.
It will still be everywhere though, if not on every building ever constructed. As the 100% failure rate in 32 authorities demonstrates.
It's emasculated Sturgeon and punted IndyRef2 into the long grass. One threat gone to HMG flank.
It's the manifesto what (nearly) lost it.
Didn't Belgium last 13 months without one? Doesn't Texas limit the number of days politicians can sit so they have less time to think up damn fool ideas because they think they need to be seen doing things? Cynical maybe a tad, but a thought.
But then, how did yougov and ICM diverge so much? Presumably they didn't both radically change their methodology over the 6 weeks (although I know yougov got wobbly right at the end, and herded)
Benefits of election:
* No indyref2
* Focus on Brexit, not the other silly changes they wanted to make
* More inclusive Brexit with all of E&W, Scotland, and NI being part of it.
* Warnings about how Corbyn & co operate (& how effective it can be)
https://twitter.com/carlbildt/status/879712953985110016
If Grenfell had happened a week earlier we would be looking at Prime Minister Corbyn and numerous PB Tories on suicide watch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaky_homes_crisis
The cost is so great that it could effect NZ's credit rating. Essentially the Government won't be able to pay for all the repairs.
Building codes are now very strict in NZ but, of course, it has been a case of shutting the gate after the horse has bolted
In office but not in power.
All of those were happening or planed before May's vanity election.
Huh? How did we know what Corbyn would be like in the GE before we had the GE ?
https://twitter.com/mattholehouse/status/879690690074202112
Oh, wait...
It's a view.
As for the Toxic Theresa nonsense, sure, her ratings are way poorer than they were two months ago but they're still fairly routine for a sitting PM (although they're not routine for one who's just won an election). And her party did win 13.6m votes: within half a million of the highest total that any party has polled. Indeed, despite losing seats, it did just about win the election. If she's toxic, what does that say about her opponents?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/property/3316998/On-the-level-timber-tommyrot.html
They're very common again now, and most of the immediate problems have been ironed out, if built by reputable and careful tradesmen. But it took two decades for the reputation to recover.
Another big up-and-coming scandal will be over cavity insulation in existing homes. A ticking time-bomb.
Is there a TTX emulator somewhere on the 'net, or did they connect an old Acorn machine up to produce it?
(pointless questions JJ asks #435915 of -730 (*))
(*) integer overflow.
So you are saying that everyone in the Tory party knew how Corbyn, backed by McDonnell and Milne, would operate? How they would hoover up the undecideds? How they would come close to almost winning?
And knowing all this the Tories choose to have an election anyway?
Is that where they inject stuff into the walls? What is the danger there?
GitHub is, as usual, your friend.
https://mattround.com/jellytext/
Why is Ukip bothering?
There are two main types of insulation:
*) Sheet insulation attached to the outside of the innerskin wall of new builds.
*) Insulation pumped into the cavity of existing houses.
In the case of the former, sheets can fall off, blocking the cavity and allowing water a path between the walls, allowing damp in. In the latter, if the insulation compacts over time, it can allow moisture through and create damp. I expect there to be many more cases of the latter as time goes on. And as the companies providing the service will long have gone out of business, it'll be up to the homeowner or government to pay the bills for removing the stuff.
http://www.askjeff.co.uk/cavity-wall-fill/
Lynton Crosby warned against an early election and was ignored and the rest is, as they say, a hung parliament.
It's a 'joke'.
Ceefax closed down (for everyone) in 2012.
We'd never be so stupid as to privatise building contr...... ooooohhh, shit.
An MP I know had just resigned from Labour's front bench because Corbyn was crap and she thought he was the best leader they had ever had.
Looking like an escapee from Greenham Common I congratulated her on being right and apologised for doubting her.
....Well on the left things change very fast! She spurned my congratulations and said McDonnell was now destroying the party by doing a volte face on public services and resiling from their position on Europe.
It's her belief that the youth vote is not the happy clappy hippies we saw at Glastonbury. Being a serious activist she has her ear closer to the ground than I do so things on the left might be more interesting than they look
Hopefully the plans to do the same with Planning Control are now shelved.
Mr. P, she's in danger of finding the reverse is also true.
A bounder would fight like a lion on the battlefield, and then seduce his Colonel's wife, when home on leave.
A cad would avoid the fighting, steal other mens' credit, and then seduce his Colonel's wife.
Mike drops mic.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/06/civil-liberties-david-davis-has-become-complete-hypocrite-and-im-not-sure-he
TMay's latest favourability rating was -34, which is pretty poor and 13 points worse than the Conservative Party but it's not abnormally low. I agree that 'toxic' is too strong a word though.
https://twitter.com/AgentP22/status/879728801932029953
Looks like Vince Cable uncontested unless a new MP goes for it. Layla Moran is the only one I could possibly imagine (she's said she wants a contest) but looks like that's it and no membership ballot needed.
German tower block evacuated due to same cladding
https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/879732644602417152
It's hard to keep up with the quantum waveform that currently exists.