There were many republicans who looked like that in the late 70s/early 80s though admittedly a few were in jail at that time. One prominent one of the time, Owen Carron, looked a bit like that though he tended to be better coiffured.
CCHQ are as we speak probably trawling through every photographic souce they can get their hands on to see if they can pin Corbyn to an IRA funeral or commemoration. God help Labour if they are successful.
Then Mrs May really is crap.
He should have this stuff already sourced before she called the election.
No doubt this started the moment Corbyn became leader?
CCHQ are as we speak probably trawling through every photographic souce they can get their hands on to see if they can pin Corbyn to an IRA funeral or commemoration. God help Labour if they are successful.
Then Mrs May really is crap.
She should have this stuff already sourced before she called the election.
I agree. Unless they held it back in case of an unexpected cock up, ie, social care?
Daily Mail and Sun headlines - 'Corbyn was pall bearer at IRA funeral'. Doesn't that have a nice ring about it?
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
I don't think so. No one gives a shit outside the Alt-Right. In the meantime, Theresa May shakes hand with the Saudi ruling family, the financier of Islamist terrorism and provides arms to them.
I Really wanted to vote labour but I can't vote for those3 at top of the party.
I'm 99.9% sure that's not Jezza. If it is, he's finished. But it isn't.
120% sure that is not Corbyn. This is desperation stuff. It proves one thing. The Tories have lost the campaign. Why are they not talking about their manifesto ? Maybe they have not got anything to talk about.
They haven't lost the campaign - they'll likely win - but what for?
May will have a bigger majority, but has lost the one opportunity she had to get a viable personal mandate, a mandate for her manifesto and a mandate for her brexit.
She'll very likely be knifed in the back (and front, and sides) before 2020.
Keep an eye on Dacre.
He's key.
She might be knifed, but the idea she won't have a mandate for her manifesto is nonsense - if she gets a landslide, which is by no means certain (50-70 still favourite I'd say), it is what it is, and you don't have less of a mandate for things because you don't focus on them a lot, you'd never be able to focus on all you list in manifestos (not that they try).
I haven't heard Labour talk about their intent to hold a public inquiry into British involvement in the raid on the Golden Temple in Amritsar, but it's a manifesto commitment, and if they were to win, Corbyn would have a mandate for it.
I doubt he has been to any IRA funerals, but I bet there are pictures out there of some marches, perhaps sympathizing with say a hunger striker out there or some sympathetic to the IRA/anti UK government policy in NI marches that he went to and he would be spotted.
If they can find it the damage would be huge, fatal perhaps. Maybe the press get hold of some friends of his who were tight with him back then but not now and have something.
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
I don't think so. No one gives a shit outside the Alt-Right. In the meantime, Theresa May shakes hand with the Saudi ruling family, the financier of Islamist terrorism and provides arms to them.
I was explaining to a 23 yr old over a curry today what the Birmingham pub bombings meant to my generation ( I remember a teacher explaining it to us as kids the day after) and comparing it to the awful Manchester events this week, and why it made the four 50 somethings around the table so incandescent that Abott Corbyn and McDonnell are a week and a half from possible power. She's not voting Jezza anyway but hopefully she'll spread the word amongst her generation.
Both the images are from the same event though, aren't they?
Is this why Blair/ Campbell banned beards? Actually https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beard_Liberation_Front ..Labour MP Jeremy Corbyn, who considered his beard "a form of dissent" against New Labour, defeated Rolf Harris to win 2001's award.
The corresponding cartoon certainly did wonders in helping the Tories to win in 2015.
The SNP wants the Tories to win in Westminster. They deliberately said this in 2015 knowing what the reaction would be in England.
If the SNP creates such a stir in England, why do the English want to keep Scotland ?
Many people dislike the idea of the SNP having power in Westminster, not Scottish MPs. Currently the two are mostly aligned, but that won't always be the case (assuming the Union survives).
CCHQ are as we speak probably trawling through every photographic souce they can get their hands on to see if they can pin Corbyn to an IRA funeral or commemoration. God help Labour if they are successful.
Then Mrs May really is crap.
She should have this stuff already sourced before she called the election.
I agree. Unless they held it back in case of an unexpected cock up, ie, social care?
Daily Mail and Sun headlines - 'Corbyn was pall bearer at IRA funeral'. Doesn't that have a nice ring about it?
I doubt he has been to any IRA funerals, but I bet there are pictures out there of some marches, perhaps sympathizing with say a hunger striker out there or some sympathetic to the IRA/anti UK government policy in NI marches that he went to and he would be spotted.
If they can find it the damage would be huge, fatal perhaps. Maybe the press get hold of some friends of his who were tight with him back then but not now and have something.
There must be some photographic evidence of this somewhere -
From the Sunday Express, May 1987: MP hails IRA dead A Labour MP stood in silence for a minute yesterday to honour the eight IRA gunmen shot dead in an SAS ambush nine days ago. Mr Jeremy Corbyn, 38, joined a 200-strong audience at London’s Conway Hall in paying tribute to the terrorists shot as they bombed Loughgall police station in County Armagh, Ulster… He told a meeting of the Wolf Tone Society: “I’m happy to commemorate all those who died fighting for an independent Ireland.”
Corbyn has been to Republican memorials. These were not memorials for all people in the conflict because Republicans don't organise memorials for all people in the conflict.
I always chuckle at public sector workers that pretend they know how markets work. Its very easy, BMWs sell because people want to buy them, likewise KFC and Sean T books. Nobody has ever, ever, bucked the market.
Its why Man Utd charge more than Mansfield. govt doesn't need to interfere.
An interesting bit of politicking from Germany. Their election is shortly due. Sounds more like the Brexit election than our own.
She's miles ahead in the polls and stratospherically popular. To Germans she's just stating the obvious.
She's right as well, isn't she?
Yep. The western world is realigning. The Anglosphere and the EU. It should always have been thus.
USA, Canada, Oz, UK, NZ - and the EU.
Having spent a lot of time with Australians, I think you'd find them now more likely to join an Asian free trade zone than a US or UK led one. Asian countries account for more than 60% of their exports, and are growing fast. The US expects you to keep your intellectual property law in lock step with it, and gives US based ISDS tribunals the right to overrule local law.
New Zealand too. Their lamb is Halal and exported to the Middle East, their dairy to China.
We buy some of their wine, but have little interest in their other exports.
thats because of the CAP
We are lamb exporters too. 60% of our lamb is exported to the EU.
and 40% isnt and we consume most of it ourselves
Do you think that we should put the Welsh hill farmers out of business by importing cheap NZ lamb?
Why not ? They voted for Brexit.
Usual misleading rubbish from you.
The Welsh hill famers are in Ceredigion, Gwynedd, Meirionnydd & Powys. The first three voted Remain, only Powys voted Leave by a narrow margin.
It was all the Welsh Labour seats that voted Leave. Every single Welsh Labour seat (expect the Cardiff ones) voted to Leave.
Both the images are from the same event though, aren't they?
Is this why Blair/ Campbell banned beards? Actually https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beard_Liberation_Front ..Labour MP Jeremy Corbyn, who considered his beard "a form of dissent" against New Labour, defeated Rolf Harris to win 2001's award.
Another low level campaign of Jeremy's which has led to public success later as beards came back into fashion.
I doubt he has been to any IRA funerals, but I bet there are pictures out there of some marches, perhaps sympathizing with say a hunger striker out there or some sympathetic to the IRA/anti UK government policy in NI marches that he went to and he would be spotted.
If they can find it the damage would be huge, fatal perhaps. Maybe the press get hold of some friends of his who were tight with him back then but not now and have something.
Photos of Corbyn meeting some Stasi officials during his motorcycle trip round the DDR might not help.
An interesting bit of politicking from Germany. Their election is shortly due. Sounds more like the Brexit election than our own.
She's miles ahead in the polls and stratospherically popular. To Germans she's just stating the obvious.
She's right as well, isn't she?
Yep. The western world is realigning. The Anglosphere and the EU. It should always have been thus.
USA, Canada, Oz, UK, NZ - and the EU.
Having spent a lot of time with Australians, I think you'd find them now more likely to join an Asian free trade zone than a US or UK led one. Asian countries account for more than 60% of their exports, and are growing fast. The US expects you to keep your intellectual property law in lock step with it, and gives US based ISDS tribunals the right to overrule local law.
Merkel isn't talking about trade, she's talking about security, clearly. And there she's right. It's us and them, and always was. Friendly but not entirely linked.
Trade between the free liberal democracies of the West will continue largely as before.
Relatedly, this is a great piece on Brexit by the new Canadian conservative leader, Andrew Scheer. Written four days before the vote.
Your mistake is to think that the interests of the Anglosphere are aligned.
Canada sends most of its exports to the US, the US to Canada and Mexico, the UK to the US and EU, Australia to China and Japan, New Zealand to Australia and China but they all share a language, culture, legal and political system and with the exception of the US, a monarch
I didn't know China and Japan and us shared a language and a legal system. In fcat, I am not sure China has a legal system.
I was referring to the export destinations of the 5 Anglosphere nations, you could just have easily added the EU and Mexico too as non Anglosphrre trade destinations
I Really wanted to vote labour but I can't vote for those3 at top of the party.
I'm 99.9% sure that's not Jezza. If it is, he's finished. But it isn't.
Who is it if it's not the venerable Corbyn?
It's a blurry pic, and he has a face a bit like Corbyn's, and a very similar beard, but everyone had a beard like that in those days.
To me this character looks too short to be Corbyn and, perhaps more importantly, I don't think even Gelignite "Jez" Corbyn would have gone to an IRA military funeral with the full Armalite salute.
Spotted, Sir! Looks like the same man, to be sure, to be sure
I think the Daily Mail is wrong on this one, but it's strange for them to go so strong on it unless they were confident. I guess there are any number of people who know for sure.
CCHQ are as we speak probably trawling through every photographic souce they can get their hands on to see if they can pin Corbyn to an IRA funeral or commemoration. God help Labour if they are successful.
Then Mrs May really is crap.
She should have this stuff already sourced before she called the election.
I agree. Unless they held it back in case of an unexpected cock up, ie, social care?
Daily Mail and Sun headlines - 'Corbyn was pall bearer at IRA funeral'. Doesn't that have a nice ring about it?
It doesn't even have to be that. They could run this photo with the headline "WAS CORBYN AT IRA FUNERAL?"
CCHQ are as we speak probably trawling through every photographic souce they can get their hands on to see if they can pin Corbyn to an IRA funeral or commemoration. God help Labour if they are successful.
Then Mrs May really is crap.
She should have this stuff already sourced before she called the election.
I agree. Unless they held it back in case of an unexpected cock up, ie, social care?
Daily Mail and Sun headlines - 'Corbyn was pall bearer at IRA funeral'. Doesn't that have a nice ring about it?
I think we can cut CCHQ a bit of slack here, the timing of this looks pretty clever to me. The closer to D Day, the less time for Lab to put together a coherent rebuttal. And the Abbott video consists largely of stuff from this morning's Marr.
And just for clarity from someone who knows, Jeremy Corbyn had no significant role whatsoever in the NI peace and subsequent political process and didn't in anyway persuade the Provos to change tack.
I Really wanted to vote labour but I can't vote for those3 at top of the party.
I'm 99.9% sure that's not Jezza. If it is, he's finished. But it isn't.
Who is it if it's not the venerable Corbyn?
It's a blurry pic, and he has a face a bit like Corbyn's, and a very similar beard, but everyone had a beard like that in those days.
To me this character looks too short to be Corbyn and, perhaps more importantly, I don't think even Gelignite "Jez" Corbyn would have gone to an IRA military funeral with the full Armalite salute.
Spotted, Sir! Looks like the same man, to be sure, to be sure
I think the Daily Mail is wrong on this one, but it's strange for them to go so strong on it unless they were confident. I guess there are any number of people who know for sure.
The Daily Mail wasn't making the claim, just a random twitterer.
CCHQ are as we speak probably trawling through every photographic souce they can get their hands on to see if they can pin Corbyn to an IRA funeral or commemoration. God help Labour if they are successful.
Then Mrs May really is crap.
She should have this stuff already sourced before she called the election.
I agree. Unless they held it back in case of an unexpected cock up, ie, social care?
Daily Mail and Sun headlines - 'Corbyn was pall bearer at IRA funeral'. Doesn't that have a nice ring about it?
And then get sued ?
Yeah, if he's going to face slanted headlines, they should at least be based on things he might actually have done (even if people quibble over the interpretation and context).
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
I don't think so. No one gives a shit outside the Alt-Right. In the meantime, Theresa May shakes hand with the Saudi ruling family, the financier of Islamist terrorism and provides arms to them.
**Fires up the Pampers klaxon**
I think we have reached peak Klaxon
Is there a peak klaxon klaxon?
Thank you for your welcome. I might add that I was born in Belfast and brought up in Northern Ireland during the Troubles, so I have a particular dislike of sectarian violence of the sort that Corbyn long advocated. It is nonsense for some of his supporters to pretend that he was an early pioneer of the peace process. Just the opposite is true. His support for the IRA and hostility to the British security forces were an obstacle to peace.
CCHQ are as we speak probably trawling through every photographic souce they can get their hands on to see if they can pin Corbyn to an IRA funeral or commemoration. God help Labour if they are successful.
Then Mrs May really is crap.
She should have this stuff already sourced before she called the election.
I agree. Unless they held it back in case of an unexpected cock up, ie, social care?
Daily Mail and Sun headlines - 'Corbyn was pall bearer at IRA funeral'. Doesn't that have a nice ring about it?
And then get sued ?
I reckon they'd happily be sued if it stopped Corbyn becoming the PM. A price worth paying, as they say.
I Really wanted to vote labour but I can't vote for those3 at top of the party.
I'm 99.9% sure that's not Jezza. If it is, he's finished. But it isn't.
Who is it if it's not the venerable Corbyn?
It's a blurry pic, and he has a face a bit like Corbyn's, and a very similar beard, but everyone had a beard like that in those days.
To me this character looks too short to be Corbyn and, perhaps more importantly, I don't think even Gelignite "Jez" Corbyn would have gone to an IRA military funeral with the full Armalite salute.
Spotted, Sir! Looks like the same man, to be sure, to be sure
I think the Daily Mail is wrong on this one, but it's strange for them to go so strong on it unless they were confident. I guess there are any number of people who know for sure.
Not a DM story afaik, the DM is simply the source of the pictures.
I doubt he has been to any IRA funerals, but I bet there are pictures out there of some marches, perhaps sympathizing with say a hunger striker out there or some sympathetic to the IRA/anti UK government policy in NI marches that he went to and he would be spotted.
If they can find it the damage would be huge, fatal perhaps. Maybe the press get hold of some friends of his who were tight with him back then but not now and have something.
Photos of Corbyn meeting some Stasi officials during his motorcycle trip round the DDR might not help.
CCHQ are as we speak probably trawling through every photographic souce they can get their hands on to see if they can pin Corbyn to an IRA funeral or commemoration. God help Labour if they are successful.
Then Mrs May really is crap.
She should have this stuff already sourced before she called the election.
I agree. Unless they held it back in case of an unexpected cock up, ie, social care?
Daily Mail and Sun headlines - 'Corbyn was pall bearer at IRA funeral'. Doesn't that have a nice ring about it?
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
I don't think so. No one gives a shit outside the Alt-Right. In the meantime, Theresa May shakes hand with the Saudi ruling family, the financier of Islamist terrorism and provides arms to them.
That's another thing,foreign policy under corbyn,he wants to cut ties from saudi arabia,what will that mean for our weapons industry and security information betwwen our two countries ?
And you could say the same with Americans,a far left terrorist sympathiser and a far right patriot,what will that mean on security information between our countries ?
I doubt he has been to any IRA funerals, but I bet there are pictures out there of some marches, perhaps sympathizing with say a hunger striker out there or some sympathetic to the IRA/anti UK government policy in NI marches that he went to and he would be spotted.
If they can find it the damage would be huge, fatal perhaps. Maybe the press get hold of some friends of his who were tight with him back then but not now and have something.
There must be some photographic evidence of this somewhere -
From the Sunday Express, May 1987: MP hails IRA dead A Labour MP stood in silence for a minute yesterday to honour the eight IRA gunmen shot dead in an SAS ambush nine days ago. Mr Jeremy Corbyn, 38, joined a 200-strong audience at London’s Conway Hall in paying tribute to the terrorists shot as they bombed Loughgall police station in County Armagh, Ulster… He told a meeting of the Wolf Tone Society: “I’m happy to commemorate all those who died fighting for an independent Ireland.”
a civilian was caught up in the Loughgall shoot out and killed by accident,
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
I don't think so. No one gives a shit outside the Alt-Right. In the meantime, Theresa May shakes hand with the Saudi ruling family, the financier of Islamist terrorism and provides arms to them.
**Fires up the Pampers klaxon**
I think we have reached peak Klaxon
Is there a peak klaxon klaxon?
When you hear the sound of the Klaxon Orchestra, head for the deep shelters....
The Facebook Ads are effective because they skewer the Labour leadership with their own words, and largely words that appear to be pretty much taken "in context". The sort of nonsense with the photographs is basically fake news and should not be peddled. In fact I think Mike should clamp down.
The Facebook Ads are effective because they skewer the Labour leadership with their own words, and largely words that appear to be pretty much taken "in context". The sort of nonsense with the photographs is basically fake news and should not be peddled. In fact I think Mike should clamp down.
I think we did a pretty good job of debunking them.
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
I don't think so. No one gives a shit outside the Alt-Right. In the meantime, Theresa May shakes hand with the Saudi ruling family, the financier of Islamist terrorism and provides arms to them.
That's another thing,foreign policy under corbyn,he wants to cut ties from saudi arabia,what will that mean for our weapons industry and sercurity information betwwen our two countries ?
And you could say the same with Americans,a far left terrorist sympathiser and a far right patriot,what will that mean on sercurity information between our countries ?
Corbyn has been to Republican memorials. These were not memorials for all people in the conflict because Republicans don't organise memorials for all people in the conflict.
I doubt if Corbyn ever turned up at memorials for IRA victims.
The Facebook Ads are effective because they skewer the Labour leadership with their own words, and largely words that appear to be pretty much taken "in context". The sort of nonsense with the photographs is basically fake news and should not be peddled. In fact I think Mike should clamp down.
He does, posters who repeatedly post fake news get smote.
Take the Corbyn at the funeral pic, I think that helps Corbyn.
Most PBers thought it wasn't Corbyn, and looked for evidence one way or the other, and the consensus it isn't Corbyn.
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
I don't think so. No one gives a shit outside the Alt-Right. In the meantime, Theresa May shakes hand with the Saudi ruling family, the financier of Islamist terrorism and provides arms to them.
**Fires up the Pampers klaxon**
I think we have reached peak Klaxon
Is there a peak klaxon klaxon?
Thank you for your welcome. I might add that I was born in Belfast and brought up in Northern Ireland during the Troubles, so I have a particular dislike of sectarian violence of the sort that Corbyn long advocated. It is nonsense for some of his supporters to pretend that he was an early pioneer of the peace process. Just the opposite is true. His support for the IRA and hostility to the British security forces were an obstacle to peace.
CCHQ are as we speak probably trawling through every photographic souce they can get their hands on to see if they can pin Corbyn to an IRA funeral or commemoration. God help Labour if they are successful.
Then Mrs May really is crap.
She should have this stuff already sourced before she called the election.
I agree. Unless they held it back in case of an unexpected cock up, ie, social care?
Daily Mail and Sun headlines - 'Corbyn was pall bearer at IRA funeral'. Doesn't that have a nice ring about it?
And then get sued ?
Yeah, if he's going to face slanted headlines, they should at least be based on things he might actually have done (even if people quibble over the interpretation and context).
Indeed -
It doesn't even have to be that. They could run this photo with the headline "WAS CORBYN AT IRA FUNERAL?"
The Facebook Ads are effective because they skewer the Labour leadership with their own words, and largely words that appear to be pretty much taken "in context". The sort of nonsense with the photographs is basically fake news and should not be peddled. In fact I think Mike should clamp down.
I think we did a pretty good job of debunking them.
How can anyone know if we are not seeing theses ads.
I have seen nothing bar the Abbott attack video. She is an utterly loathsome individual anyway, but I am not CCHQ's target audience.
The corresponding cartoon certainly did wonders in helping the Tories to win in 2015.
The SNP wants the Tories to win in Westminster. They deliberately said this in 2015 knowing what the reaction would be in England.
If the SNP creates such a stir in England, why do the English want to keep Scotland ?
Many people dislike the idea of the SNP having power in Westminster, not Scottish MPs. Currently the two are mostly aligned, but that won't always be the case (assuming the Union survives).
SNP MPs are Scottish MPs, that Scottish voters have had the temerity to elect.
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
I don't think so. No one gives a shit outside the Alt-Right. In the meantime, Theresa May shakes hand with the Saudi ruling family, the financier of Islamist terrorism and provides arms to them.
That's another thing,foreign policy under corbyn,he wants to cut ties from saudi arabia,what will that mean for our weapons industry and security information betwwen our two countries ?
And you could say the same with Americans,a far left terrorist sympathiser and a far right patriot,what will that mean on security information between our countries ?
We bomb ISIS. We gives arms to Saudi Arabia who funds ISIS.
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
I don't think so. No one gives a shit outside the Alt-Right. In the meantime, Theresa May shakes hand with the Saudi ruling family, the financier of Islamist terrorism and provides arms to them.
That's another thing,foreign policy under corbyn,he wants to cut ties from saudi arabia,what will that mean for our weapons industry and sercurity information betwwen our two countries ?
And you could say the same with Americans,a far left terrorist sympathiser and a far right patriot,what will that mean on sercurity information between our countries ?
You say that like they are bad things...
It is if the yanks and saudi's have information of a terrorist plot in this country and decide to hold back because of trust or falling out.
I Really wanted to vote labour but I can't vote for those3 at top of the party.
I'm 99.9% sure that's not Jezza. If it is, he's finished. But it isn't.
120% sure that is not Corbyn. This is desperation stuff. It proves one thing. The Tories have lost the campaign. Why are they not talking about their manifesto ? Maybe they have not got anything to talk about.
They haven't lost the campaign - they'll likely win - but what for?
May will have a bigger majority, but has lost the one opportunity she had to get a viable personal mandate, a mandate for her manifesto and a mandate for her brexit.
She'll very likely be knifed in the back (and front, and sides) before 2020.
Keep an eye on Dacre.
He's key.
She might be knifed, but the idea she won't have a mandate for her manifesto is nonsense - if she gets a landslide, which is by no means certain (50-70 still favourite I'd say), it is what it is, and you don't have less of a mandate for things because you don't focus on them a lot, you'd never be able to focus on all you list in manifestos (not that they try).
I haven't heard Labour talk about their intent to hold a public inquiry into British involvement in the raid on the Golden Temple in Amritsar, but it's a manifesto commitment, and if they were to win, Corbyn would have a mandate for it.
I agree about the mandate and the political hit is worth it if it means something thats needed but difficult gets done - assuming a victory. But I am gobsmacked over this Amritsar thing. Just whats that about? It was in 1984, there was a report by the cabinet secretary and at 'worst', if there was a worst, we just gave early advice. Advice to a fellow democracy - the largest in the world and a fellow commonwealth member. it was otherwise nothing to do with the UK.
The 'raid' was a terrorist event so I suppose Corbyn was upset when the Indian Government reacted to take the Temple back. Indian Jingoism is a well known trait of that people.
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
I don't think so. No one gives a shit outside the Alt-Right. In the meantime, Theresa May shakes hand with the Saudi ruling family, the financier of Islamist terrorism and provides arms to them.
That's another thing,foreign policy under corbyn,he wants to cut ties from saudi arabia,what will that mean for our weapons industry and sercurity information betwwen our two countries ?
And you could say the same with Americans,a far left terrorist sympathiser and a far right patriot,what will that mean on sercurity information between our countries ?
You say that like they are bad things...
It is if the yanks and saudi's have information of a terrorist plot in this country and decide to hold back because of trust or falling out.
And has been instrumental in stopping at least one attack:
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
I don't think so. No one gives a shit outside the Alt-Right. In the meantime, Theresa May shakes hand with the Saudi ruling family, the financier of Islamist terrorism and provides arms to them.
That's another thing,foreign policy under corbyn,he wants to cut ties from saudi arabia,what will that mean for our weapons industry and sercurity information betwwen our two countries ?
And you could say the same with Americans,a far left terrorist sympathiser and a far right patriot,what will that mean on sercurity information between our countries ?
You say that like they are bad things...
It is if the yanks and saudi's have information of a terrorist plot in this country and decide to hold back because of trust or falling out.
You mean the Yanks won't leak it ? As far as the Saudis , did their intelligence stop 9/11 ? Most probably they funded it.
That is devastating. Not only Jeremy Corbyn carrying the coffin, but a young Tim Farron just behind him, and - unless I'm very much mistaken - Nicola Sturgeon is the third masked figure on the left.
Just looking at twitter feeds and other commentaries on the web, it really seems that the IRA stuff is gaining traction with the electorate. Is this a turning point after the weeks of a Labour surge? The polls began to change in 1992 just 10 days out from the election. Was Diane Abbot's appearance on the Andrew Marr show the 2017 Sheffield moment?
Do you know anyone who votes Labour ?
Well, I know Corbyn pretty well. I was in his Islington North Labour Party for 10 years -and his support for violent Republicanism sickened me even then. But I never thought for a moment he would advance from the wilderness of the extreme left to the Labour leadership. Now his past his returning to haunt him, justifiably.
I don't think so. No one gives a shit outside the Alt-Right. In the meantime, Theresa May shakes hand with the Saudi ruling family, the financier of Islamist terrorism and provides arms to them.
That's another thing,foreign policy under corbyn,he wants to cut ties from saudi arabia,what will that mean for our weapons industry and security information betwwen our two countries ?
And you could say the same with Americans,a far left terrorist sympathiser and a far right patriot,what will that mean on security information between our countries ?
We bomb ISIS. We gives arms to Saudi Arabia who funds ISIS.
We "give" arms to Saudi Arabia do we? We don't sell them to them?
Does this fall under our International Aid budget?
The Facebook Ads are effective because they skewer the Labour leadership with their own words, and largely words that appear to be pretty much taken "in context". The sort of nonsense with the photographs is basically fake news and should not be peddled. In fact I think Mike should clamp down.
He does, repeated posters of fake news get smote.
Take the Corbyn at the funeral pic, I think that helps Corbyn.
Most PBers thought it wasn't Corbyn, and looked for evidence one way or the other, and the consensus it isn't Corbyn.
No, it doesn't help Corbyn at all. No one sees politics in that sophisticated way.
All they will hear is the leader of the Labour party having to deny he was at a military, gun-toting funeral for IRA terrorists, during their campaign to bomb Britain into submission. And why is he having to deny this? - because there is a genuine question mark over his loyalty to this country, and his apparent support for IRA killers.
It's like the "do you fuck goats" thing. If you're explaining, you're losing.
That is devastating. Not only Jeremy Corbyn carrying the coffin, but a young Tim Farron just behind him, and - unless I'm very much mistaken - Nicola Sturgeon is the third masked figure on the left.
If you move the letters around, add some other ones and remove others, and what does it spell? Jeremy Corbyn. His aliases don't fool me.
Owen Carron was Bobby Sands' election agent in 1981, and himself won the Fermanagh and South Tyrone seat in the by-election caused by Sands' death. He lost to Ken Maginnis in 1983.
The Facebook Ads are effective because they skewer the Labour leadership with their own words, and largely words that appear to be pretty much taken "in context". The sort of nonsense with the photographs is basically fake news and should not be peddled. In fact I think Mike should clamp down.
He does, repeated posters of fake news get smote.
Take the Corbyn at the funeral pic, I think that helps Corbyn.
Most PBers thought it wasn't Corbyn, and looked for evidence one way or the other, and the consensus it isn't Corbyn.
No, it doesn't help Corbyn at all. No one sees politics in that sophisticated way.
All they will hear is the leader of the Labour party having to deny he was at a military, gun-toting funeral for IRA terrorists, during their campaign to bomb Britain into submission. And why is he having to deny this? - because there is a genuine question mark over his loyalty to this country, and his apparent support for IRA killers.
It's like the "do you fuck goats" thing. If you're explaining, you're losing.
CCHQ are as we speak probably trawling through every photographic souce they can get their hands on to see if they can pin Corbyn to an IRA funeral or commemoration. God help Labour if they are successful.
Then Mrs May really is crap.
She should have this stuff already sourced before she called the election.
I agree. Unless they held it back in case of an unexpected cock up, ie, social care?
Daily Mail and Sun headlines - 'Corbyn was pall bearer at IRA funeral'. Doesn't that have a nice ring about it?
And then get sued ?
Yeah, if he's going to face slanted headlines, they should at least be based on things he might actually have done (even if people quibble over the interpretation and context).
Indeed -
It doesn't even have to be that. They could run this photo with the headline "WAS CORBYN AT IRA FUNERAL?"
That is devastating. Not only Jeremy Corbyn carrying the coffin, but a young Tim Farron just behind him, and - unless I'm very much mistaken - Nicola Sturgeon is the third masked figure on the left.
And Leanne Wood sang at the chapel. Lovely voice an all that.
The Facebook Ads are effective because they skewer the Labour leadership with their own words, and largely words that appear to be pretty much taken "in context". The sort of nonsense with the photographs is basically fake news and should not be peddled. In fact I think Mike should clamp down.
He does, posters who repeatedly post fake news get smote.
Take the Corbyn at the funeral pic, I think that helps Corbyn.
Most PBers thought it wasn't Corbyn, and looked for evidence one way or the other, and the consensus it isn't Corbyn.
It's bad enough SNP MPs being Nicola Sturgeon's candidates, and being whipped on her decisions. But at least it represents reality. What part does Ruth Davidson play at Westminster such that any Conservative MP can be described as "her candidate"?
The corresponding cartoon certainly did wonders in helping the Tories to win in 2015.
The SNP wants the Tories to win in Westminster. They deliberately said this in 2015 knowing what the reaction would be in England.
If the SNP creates such a stir in England, why do the English want to keep Scotland ?
Many people dislike the idea of the SNP having power in Westminster, not Scottish MPs. Currently the two are mostly aligned, but that won't always be the case (assuming the Union survives).
SNP MPs are Scottish MPs, that Scottish voters have had the temerity to elect.
Did you not see the second part of the sentence? It was about that it isn't an anti-scottish reaction, it is an anti-SNP reaction. If the Scots want to elect 59 SNP MPs knowing that England in particular might react against it that is their business, and indeed they very nearly did so and will once again elect a majority of SNP MPs this time. The question was why would England want to 'keep' Scotland if the SNP cause such a stir, and I was focusing on that it is indeed the SNP causing a stir, and the SNP won't always have 56/59 MPs in Scotland (for one because independence might well occur in the not too distant future), and that if it was SCON, SLAB or SLD being relied on to support English MPs at Westminster no one in England would care (I hope), and so the English would (again I hope) not want to 'lose' Scotland just because, currently, it is mostly represented by SNP MPs, even if it does not want to work with those MPs.
If you move the letters around, add some other ones and remove others, and what does it spell? Jeremy Corbyn. His aliases don't fool me.
Owen Carron was Bobby Sands' election agent in 1981, and himself won the Fermanagh and South Tyrone seat in the by-election caused by Sands' death. He lost to Ken Maginnis in 1983.
The Facebook Ads are effective because they skewer the Labour leadership with their own words, and largely words that appear to be pretty much taken "in context". The sort of nonsense with the photographs is basically fake news and should not be peddled. In fact I think Mike should clamp down.
He does, posters who repeatedly post fake news get smote.
Take the Corbyn at the funeral pic, I think that helps Corbyn.
Most PBers thought it wasn't Corbyn, and looked for evidence one way or the other, and the consensus it isn't Corbyn.
Quite a few posters should be red-carded.
Like all the Welsh farmers should be bankrupted, for disagreeing with you.
The Facebook Ads are effective because they skewer the Labour leadership with their own words, and largely words that appear to be pretty much taken "in context". The sort of nonsense with the photographs is basically fake news and should not be peddled. In fact I think Mike should clamp down.
He does, repeated posters of fake news get smote.
Take the Corbyn at the funeral pic, I think that helps Corbyn.
Most PBers thought it wasn't Corbyn, and looked for evidence one way or the other, and the consensus it isn't Corbyn.
No, it doesn't help Corbyn at all. No one sees politics in that sophisticated way.
All they will hear is the leader of the Labour party having to deny he was at a military, gun-toting funeral for IRA terrorists, during their campaign to bomb Britain into submission. And why is he having to deny this? - because there is a genuine question mark over his loyalty to this country, and his apparent support for IRA killers.
It's like the "do you fuck goats" thing. If you're explaining, you're losing.
Spot on. The mere fact we're discussing the possibility of Corbyn attending an IRA funeral is a somewhat damning indictment.
It's obviously not Corbyn, but Surbiton was sufficiently worried to even compare relative heights of the two men.
What a predicament to be in 10 days before a general election. Tragic.
It's bad enough SNP MPs being Nicola Sturgeon's candidates, and being whipped on her decisions. But at least it represents reality. What part does Ruth Davidson play at Westminster such that any Conservative MP can be described as "her candidate"?
Good point. Would Scottish Tory MPs be expected to liaise regularly with the SCON leader, or is she entirely bypassed? Does she have any particular say over how parliamentary candidates are selected for Westminster as the leader of SCON, so he's her candidate in that sense? It's more just an endorsement than him being a part of her team, should be be elected?
It's bad enough SNP MPs being Nicola Sturgeon's candidates, and being whipped on her decisions. But at least it represents reality. What part does Ruth Davidson play at Westminster such that any Conservative MP can be described as "her candidate"?
The Facebook Ads are effective because they skewer the Labour leadership with their own words, and largely words that appear to be pretty much taken "in context". The sort of nonsense with the photographs is basically fake news and should not be peddled. In fact I think Mike should clamp down.
I think we did a pretty good job of debunking them.
How can anyone know if we are not seeing theses ads.
I have seen nothing bar the Abbott attack video. She is an utterly loathsome individual anyway, but I am not CCHQ's target audience.
Oh.. I am sure they are but I haven't seen one bar the Dianne Abbot one posted on here. So its difficult to judge their effect. There was a post about significant up tic in Conservative support in the marginal too(this morning), but difficult to asses this on the ground as I am not canvassing any more.
Lib Dems down to Mark Williams (Who is vulnerable to Plaid according to our welsh sources on the ground), Tim Farron (Who isn't entirely safe from a late Tory surge) and Carmichael (Who I damn well hope is safe as I've backed him around 4-9) according to Electoral calculus.
Mulholland and Clegg losing to Labour, paging @thescreamingeagles Two Labour posters up in Totley, and no diamonds on my round yesterday (Tory, and Diamonds a couple of each on the road up)
Lib Dems down to Mark Williams (Who is vulnerable to Plaid according to our welsh sources on the ground), Tim Farron (Who isn't entirely safe from a late Tory surge) and Carmichael (Who I damn well hope is safe as I've backed him around 4-9) according to Electoral calculus.
Mulholland and Clegg losing to Labour, paging @thescreamingeagles Two Labour posters up in Totley, and no diamonds on my round yesterday.
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Daily Mail and Sun headlines - 'Corbyn was pall bearer at IRA funeral'. Doesn't that have a nice ring about it?
I haven't heard Labour talk about their intent to hold a public inquiry into British involvement in the raid on the Golden Temple in Amritsar, but it's a manifesto commitment, and if they were to win, Corbyn would have a mandate for it.
If the SNP creates such a stir in England, why do the English want to keep Scotland ?
If they can find it the damage would be huge, fatal perhaps. Maybe the press get hold of some friends of his who were tight with him back then but not now and have something.
Actually
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beard_Liberation_Front
..Labour MP Jeremy Corbyn, who considered his beard "a form of dissent" against New Labour, defeated Rolf Harris to win 2001's award.
'Rolf Harris'... ha ha ha.
From the Sunday Express, May 1987:
MP hails IRA dead
A Labour MP stood in silence for a minute yesterday to honour the eight IRA gunmen shot dead in an SAS ambush nine days ago.
Mr Jeremy Corbyn, 38, joined a 200-strong audience at London’s Conway Hall in paying tribute to the terrorists shot as they bombed Loughgall police station in County Armagh, Ulster…
He told a meeting of the Wolf Tone Society: “I’m happy to commemorate all those who died fighting for an independent Ireland.”
Its fine when Whites bomb Manchester but when BME bomb Manchester he gets offended. #racist #Islamophobe
Its why Man Utd charge more than Mansfield. govt doesn't need to interfere.
The Welsh hill famers are in Ceredigion, Gwynedd, Meirionnydd & Powys. The first three voted Remain, only Powys voted Leave by a narrow margin.
It was all the Welsh Labour seats that voted Leave. Every single Welsh Labour seat (expect the Cardiff ones) voted to Leave.
(See page 31.)
Page 31 No. But he could have been....
But it left a bad taste in the mouth for so many.
OMG - I think I could a thread on this.
Corbyn should take this on the chin.
And you could say the same with Americans,a far left terrorist sympathiser and a far right patriot,what will that mean on security information between our countries ?
I wonder if Jezza ran a memorial for him ?
https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.independent.ie/incoming/article30265023.ece/ALTERNATES/h342/carrx.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ontherun-defends-role-as-border-school-principal-30265257.html&docid=3YhJeGmwC8z3jM&tbnid=hiNUqUrxjTAUSM:&vet=10ahUKEwi27IHBwJPUAhWpJcAKHbCyD4QQMwghKAAwAA..i&w=613&h=342&bih=599&biw=1366&q=owen bobby sands funeral&ved=0ahUKEwi27IHBwJPUAhWpJcAKHbCyD4QQMwghKAAwAA&iact=mrc&uact=8
Take the Corbyn at the funeral pic, I think that helps Corbyn.
Most PBers thought it wasn't Corbyn, and looked for evidence one way or the other, and the consensus it isn't Corbyn.
It doesn't even have to be that. They could run this photo with the headline "WAS CORBYN AT IRA FUNERAL?"
I have seen nothing bar the Abbott attack video. She is an utterly loathsome individual anyway, but I am not CCHQ's target audience.
If you move the letters around, add some other ones and remove others, and what does it spell? Jeremy Corbyn. His aliases don't fool me.
But I am gobsmacked over this Amritsar thing. Just whats that about? It was in 1984, there was a report by the cabinet secretary and at 'worst', if there was a worst, we just gave early advice. Advice to a fellow democracy - the largest in the world and a fellow commonwealth member. it was otherwise nothing to do with the UK.
The 'raid' was a terrorist event so I suppose Corbyn was upset when the Indian Government reacted to take the Temple back. Indian Jingoism is a well known trait of that people.
What a total nutjob is Corbyn.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_planes_bomb_plot
Does this fall under our International Aid budget?
Not a statement, but a question...
https://twitter.com/DJack_Journo/status/868939989928861698
Would you like to try a cheese burger Bobby Sands?
doesnt matter if it is or isnt who can prove it in 8 days ?
It's obviously not Corbyn, but Surbiton was sufficiently worried to even compare relative heights of the two men.
What a predicament to be in 10 days before a general election. Tragic.
No its the news that he now says he... 'met with “former prisoners who have told me they were not in the IRA”.'
'...they told me...' Ha ha ha, Mandy Rice Davis where are you now!
Mulholland and Clegg losing to Labour, paging @thescreamingeagles Two Labour posters up in Totley, and no diamonds on my round yesterday (Tory, and Diamonds a couple of each on the road up)
Alt-Right PBers denounce Islamist ISIS violence. They keep quite when Saudis behead people in public squares.
The stench of hypocrisy.
We've already tunneled under the wire and past the guards.
Leaving the EHCR and a few other things are the final bit of escaping through Vichy France.