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Killing cows is good, cows cause global warming.Anorak said:
Dead cow good; dead highly-efficient killing-machine bad?TheScreamingEagles said:
My biggest regret on the shoe front was not buying the most comfortable pair of shoes I have ever tried on, wearing and walking them was like getting your feet massaged by angels.Beverley_C said:
Repression is not good for the soul. It is best to let it all outScott_P said:
I fear you may have just unleashed TSE...Beverley_C said:(Just between you and me - do men have much choice in shoes? They seem to have a selection of either brown or black canoe-like objects. Not much variety in shape, style or colour)
The only problem with them was that they were made from crocodile leather, and I have some very animal loving friend who would have taken great offence at me wearing such a pair.0 -
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@MrHarryCole: Had second old school Tory MP - in all seriousness - refer to the Prime Minister as "mummy" on the phone today. That's twice in a week.0 -
Really? I can see a yellowing and curling at the edges YES poster across the street in someone else's window. There were a couple more that eventually dropped off like stubborn leaves from a tree in winter.Scott_P said:
Edinburgh council has banned political postersJonCisBack said:Posters seem to be a thing of the past. In 2010 I became increasingly obsessed with it, driving home from work lots of different way in a vain attempt to find any at all for any party.
In the end I saw a grand total of 3 in the entire campaign, one a generic "vote conservative" in a farmer's field, and one LD on what transpired to be the candidate's own house :-)
There were a few more in farmer's fields in 2015 (basically all either UKIP or tory) but very few really. Although I did see quite a lot of Lab and a few Con somewhere in west Manchester on a work trip.
(If T May ever agrees an Indyref2, I hope she insists the question is "Should Scotland stay in the UK?". The people "making the journey to Yes" will then have to make the return trip back to "No")0 -
I think you're repressing forgetting David Coburn's sartorial elegance.Theuniondivvie said:
You need to become an mep. Just look at the sartorial peaks scaled by Nige & Nuttall.TheScreamingEagles said:
No, alas I'd make a terrible MPBeverley_C said:
It might be a big ask given your Hero's "Austerity" budgetsTheScreamingEagles said:Can someone provide me with a link/graph showing the rich paid more tax under the Tories than under Labour?
Edit: And the poorest paid less tax.
Have you been selected for Tatton yet?
1) I'd get into terrible trouble for speaking my mind
2) I'd be a shit MP dealing with plebs casework
3) I couldn't afford the paycut, which means my shoe and fashion budget is cut.
That said, me spending that much time in France is an accident waiting to happen.0 -
Of course you love the Oxford comma. You're a lawyer:TheScreamingEagles said:
Irony old bean.Carolus_Rex said:
Dunno which to jump on first in the above, the use of "is" rather than "are" or the Oxford comma....TheScreamingEagles said:
They need my help. Grammar, punctuation, and capitalisation is important, it is the difference between helping your uncle Jack off a horse, and helping your uncle jack off a horse.Scott_P said:
and Capitalisation (sic)MarqueeMark said:And punctuation has been reduced to two commas and a full stop. Used randomly.
Edit: and the comma where there should be a full stop!
But I really do love love love love the Oxford comma.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/mar/16/oxford-comma-helps-drivers-win-dispute-about-overtime-pay0 -
Don't let Sunil's nan hear that !TheScreamingEagles said:
Killing cows is good, cows cause global warming.Anorak said:
Dead cow good; dead highly-efficient killing-machine bad?TheScreamingEagles said:
My biggest regret on the shoe front was not buying the most comfortable pair of shoes I have ever tried on, wearing and walking them was like getting your feet massaged by angels.Beverley_C said:
Repression is not good for the soul. It is best to let it all outScott_P said:
I fear you may have just unleashed TSE...Beverley_C said:(Just between you and me - do men have much choice in shoes? They seem to have a selection of either brown or black canoe-like objects. Not much variety in shape, style or colour)
The only problem with them was that they were made from crocodile leather, and I have some very animal loving friend who would have taken great offence at me wearing such a pair.0 -
https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/topic/crocodile-attack/TheScreamingEagles said:
Killing cows is good, cows cause global warming.Anorak said:
Dead cow good; dead highly-efficient killing-machine bad?TheScreamingEagles said:
My biggest regret on the shoe front was not buying the most comfortable pair of shoes I have ever tried on, wearing and walking them was like getting your feet massaged by angels.Beverley_C said:Repression is not good for the soul. It is best to let it all out
The only problem with them was that they were made from crocodile leather, and I have some very animal loving friend who would have taken great offence at me wearing such a pair.
There are so many of the malevolent, man-eating monsters they frequently need culling. And making into shoes.0 -
Quite right Mr. D. I have three pairs of shoes, 1 highly polished black oxfords for weddings, funerals and formal occasions (don't get worn much these days), 1 slightly less polished and softer black oxfords for normal wear, 1 pair brown brogues for semi-formal events outside London. On top of which one pair decent walking boots and one pair Clarkes trekker sandals for walking in the summer. I have had the same combination for thirty years or more, indeed the shoes are at least ten years old though I had to replace the boots two years ago (the old pair finally fell apart beyond repair having been bought in the early eighties) and the sandals last year (the quality of Clarkes footwear has really gone downhill since they moved the manufacturing abroad).Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Urquhart, when my old walking boots (for dog walking) split, I had to find a different pair. Couldn't get the same ones.
Men who enjoy shoe-shopping are deviants.
The same goes for clothing generally. I kept one suit, two or three formal shirts to wear with it other than that I have a few pairs of corduroys and jeans, a couple of pairs of shorts and a bunch of polo or other informal shirts and a few jumpers. I don't seem to need any more than that.
I have kept my tie collection though. I don't know why but I find getting rid of a tie to be beyond my capabilities. Perhaps it's because too many memories are associated with each one.0 -
Jezza ban on ZHC, £10 minimum wage, pension triple lock, free school meals for all primary school kids..That is before you get to all the mega spending.
Question is how long until Uk PLC is bust?
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pension triple lock is the interesting one. Will Tories drop it?FrancisUrquhart said:Jezza ban on ZHC, £10 minimum wage, pension triple lock, free school meals for all primary school kids...
Question is how long until Uk PLC is bust?0 -
It was Roger Casement that really got me hooked on the law and the comma.Carolus_Rex said:
Of course you love the Oxford comma. You're a lawyer:TheScreamingEagles said:
Irony old bean.Carolus_Rex said:
Dunno which to jump on first in the above, the use of "is" rather than "are" or the Oxford comma....TheScreamingEagles said:
They need my help. Grammar, punctuation, and capitalisation is important, it is the difference between helping your uncle Jack off a horse, and helping your uncle jack off a horse.Scott_P said:
and Capitalisation (sic)MarqueeMark said:And punctuation has been reduced to two commas and a full stop. Used randomly.
Edit: and the comma where there should be a full stop!
But I really do love love love love the Oxford comma.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/mar/16/oxford-comma-helps-drivers-win-dispute-about-overtime-pay0 -
I'm relying on three points from the Irish and two from the Danish juries. Beyond that it could become a little tricky.Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Will there be a Eurovision thread this year?TheScreamingEagles said:
*Whisper it very quietly, I might be doing an AV thread this weekend, if I get the time.*Hertsmere_Pubgoer said:
Your favorite thread isn't an AV one?TheScreamingEagles said:My favourite PB thread was the one where I gave Jeremy Corbyn some fashion advice just shortly before he became leader.
If only he had listened to me.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2015/09/11/some-fashion-advice-for-jeremy-corbyn/
*has a fit of the vapors*
This Sunday is a bit hectic for both Mike and I.
UK must be very short odds for nul points I would guess.0 -
Women never buy shoes with a man present. We might just realise how much that wall of shoe boxes climbing up the bedroom wall has cost.....NickPalmer said:
Quite so. Assistants who say "But maybe you'd like to try another pair before you decide?" are just irritating. Gimme the shoes and let me out of here. Never buy shoes with a partner present!IanB2 said:
It's easy. Men only need to buy a pair when holes appear in the current pair, or the sole starts to fall off. We then look for a pair as similar as possible to the old ones.Beverley_C said:
Say no more! Cuts to the shoe budget are simply intolerable.TheScreamingEagles said:
3) I couldn't afford the paycut, which means my shoe and fashion budget is cut.
(Just between you and me - do men have much choice in shoes? They seem to have a selection of either brown or black canoe-like objects. Not much variety in shape, style or colour)0 -
I'd urge everyone to retweet and "fav" this in order to try and get some better odds in the GE...
https://twitter.com/CorbynFor_PM/status/8553117608064860160 -
What I presume is the final Opinionway poll of the first round is very tight:
Emmanuel Macron 23% (=)
Marine Le Pen 22% (=)
Francois Fillon 21% (+1)
Jean Luc Macron 18% (-1)0 -
TheScreamingEagles said:
They need my help. Grammar, punctuation, and capitalisation is important, it is the difference between helping your uncle Jack off a horse, and helping your uncle jack off a horse.Scott_P said:
and Capitalisation (sic)MarqueeMark said:And punctuation has been reduced to two commas and a full stop. Used randomly.
You need your help as well!TheScreamingEagles said:
This Sunday is a bit hectic for both Mike and I.
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@MrHarryCole: New: PM's ace press secretary Lizzie Loudon has quit.0
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I tend to go on how men talk and behave. I prefer a charmer in rags to a spiv in a Saville Row suit. Obviously a well dressed man starts from a better position but if he acts like prat then clothes will not save him.SeanT said:
Not true at all. Shoes maketh the man. You can judge a chap by the choice and quality of his footwear, and cheap nasty shoes can make you look like a chav even if you're wearing a two grand suit.Beverley_C said:
For you lot on that side of the fence perhaps, over on this side, shoes make the outfitScott_P said:
And the only use for shoes is to keep your feet out of theBeverley_C said:The only use for cars is to get from A to B and keep the weather off you and your shopping. All this "Ultimate driving durch technik" stuff is overkill. A Hyundai I10 is all that is needed.
shmud.
A couple of pairs is all that is needed...
[ducks]
Moreover, women judge men by their shoes.
The first and only rule of male shoe buying is spend as much as you can. Price really does = quality.
Make me laugh. Charm me. I like men who make me feel good.0 -
Corbasm.....Pulpstar said:I'd urge everyone to retweet and "fav" this in order to try and get some better odds in the GE...
https://twitter.com/CorbynFor_PM/status/8553117608064860160 -
Probably index it to inflationrottenborough said:
pension triple lock is the interesting one. Will Tories drop it?FrancisUrquhart said:Jezza ban on ZHC, £10 minimum wage, pension triple lock, free school meals for all primary school kids...
Question is how long until Uk PLC is bust?0 -
Oh God, those people that put a tenner on Corbyn as next PM/Labour majority are going to win their bets.Pulpstar said:I'd urge everyone to retweet and "fav" this in order to try and get some better odds in the GE...
https://twitter.com/CorbynFor_PM/status/8553117608064860160 -
Mr. Eagles, cheers for that Oxford comma picture. Really rather good.
Mr. P, that is rather vomit-inducing.
I think Theresa May would be far more convincing than [redacted for spoilers] as the Big Villain in Episode VII.0 -
A clearer example of the [lack of] value in voodoo polling couldn't be asked for.Pulpstar said:I'd urge everyone to retweet and "fav" this in order to try and get some better odds in the GE...
https://twitter.com/CorbynFor_PM/status/8553117608064860160 -
Glasgow has for a while but S.Lanarkshire hasn't, so you can drive from a desert of political expression to an explosion of electoral colour in an instant, several to a lampost sometimes. Doubt much will be happening for the locals mind.Scott_P said:
Edinburgh council has banned political postersJonCisBack said:Posters seem to be a thing of the past. In 2010 I became increasingly obsessed with it, driving home from work lots of different way in a vain attempt to find any at all for any party.
In the end I saw a grand total of 3 in the entire campaign, one a generic "vote conservative" in a farmer's field, and one LD on what transpired to be the candidate's own house :-)
There were a few more in farmer's fields in 2015 (basically all either UKIP or tory) but very few really. Although I did see quite a lot of Lab and a few Con somewhere in west Manchester on a work trip.0 -
The apostrophe is my pet hate ..... which reminds me, where's that old PB.com stalwart GIN this morning?TheScreamingEagles said:
It was Roger Casement that really got me hooked on the law and the comma.Carolus_Rex said:
Of course you love the Oxford comma. You're a lawyer:TheScreamingEagles said:
Irony old bean.Carolus_Rex said:
Dunno which to jump on first in the above, the use of "is" rather than "are" or the Oxford comma....TheScreamingEagles said:
They need my help. Grammar, punctuation, and capitalisation is important, it is the difference between helping your uncle Jack off a horse, and helping your uncle jack off a horse.Scott_P said:
and Capitalisation (sic)MarqueeMark said:And punctuation has been reduced to two commas and a full stop. Used randomly.
Edit: and the comma where there should be a full stop!
But I really do love love love love the Oxford comma.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/mar/16/oxford-comma-helps-drivers-win-dispute-about-overtime-pay0 -
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@PolhomeEditor: So that's Theresa May lost a spokeswoman and director of communications inside 3 days. Careless.0
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That picture has always cracked me up.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, cheers for that Oxford comma picture. Really rather good.
Mr. P, that is rather vomit-inducing.
I think Theresa May would be far more convincing than [redacted for spoilers] as the Big Villain in Episode VII.0 -
Too close to call basically.AlastairMeeks said:What I presume is the final Opinionway poll of the first round is very tight:
Emmanuel Macron 23% (=)
Marine Le Pen 22% (=)
Francois Fillon 21% (+1)
Jean Luc Macron 18% (-1)
Derivatives markets are in hedging mode:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/04/20/options-market-shows-insider-alarm-frexit-upset/0 -
Be honest, that is mostly because you bored and wander off...MarqueeMark said:Women never buy shoes with a man present
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The day the polls turned....Pulpstar said:I'd urge everyone to retweet and "fav" this in order to try and get some better odds in the GE...
twitter.com/CorbynFor_PM/status/8553117608064860160 -
I'll be glad to help the rebalancing of their books.TheScreamingEagles said:I assume Mike will be doing a thread on this
https://twitter.com/liamyoung/status/8551788054634455040 -
I think the medical abbreviation is "NFD" - Normal For Devon....Scott_P said:
and Capitalisation (sic)MarqueeMark said:And punctuation has been reduced to two commas and a full stop. Used randomly.
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Which happens to be the highest of the three lock measures currently. It was the fixed 2.5% that really ratcheted up the pension in real terms during a period of ultra-low inflation.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Probably index it to inflationrottenborough said:
pension triple lock is the interesting one. Will Tories drop it?FrancisUrquhart said:Jezza ban on ZHC, £10 minimum wage, pension triple lock, free school meals for all primary school kids...
Question is how long until Uk PLC is bust?0 -
The impending landslide GE win will do little to hide the embarrassmentScott_P said:@PolhomeEditor: So that's Theresa May lost a spokeswoman and director of communications inside 3 days. Careless.
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Perhaps more significant than the headline first-round votes are the scenarios for the 2nd round (page 17). Note that Macron wins easily against any of the other candidates. Le Pen loses badly against any of the other candidates. Fillon loses unless his opponent is Le Pen. Mélenchon wins against Le Pen or Fillon but loses to Macron.BudG said:Last day of polls from the French election.
First up, Elabe:
Macron 24 (=)
Le Pen 21.5 (-1.5)
Fillon 20 (+0.5)
Melenchon 19.5 (+1.5)
http://elabe.fr/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/20042017_bfmtv_lexpress_intentions-de-vote-presidentielles-vague-10.pdf0 -
I have more books on 4th/3rd century BC Macedonian military adventures than shoes.
Priorities, people!
I should probably buy more. Only I have no money. Or shelf space. Or time. But apart from that...
Anyway, to work!0 -
I can concede you had a point, of sorts, about cars downthread. The difference however is that I doubt many men would find buying it more rewarding than actually driving it?Beverley_C said:
Be honest, that is mostly because you bored and wander off...MarqueeMark said:Women never buy shoes with a man present
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Mark WallaceVerified account @wallaceme 15h15 hours agoPulpstar said:
I'll be glad to help the rebalancing of their books.TheScreamingEagles said:I assume Mike will be doing a thread on this
https://twitter.com/liamyoung/status/855178805463445504
Mark Wallace Retweeted Heather Mendick
Trying to work out in what world this seems like a better use of money than spending it on leaflets.0 -
yesterday
https://twitter.com/pressjournal/status/854663430657245184
today
@JamieRoss7: Nicola Sturgeon says a "progressive alliance" with Labour is "not credible" because Jeremy Corbyn won't deliver the numbers needed.
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I can see the resemblence https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nzkIva5I6DE/maxresdefault.jpgScott_P said:Eeewwwwww
@MrHarryCole: Had second old school Tory MP - in all seriousness - refer to the Prime Minister as "mummy" on the phone today. That's twice in a week.0 -
Corbynista: you can still get 9 on Jezza being next PM on BF. Get your money in on this sure-fire winner.0
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I suspect the Tories intend to drop the 2.5% and revert to a double lock, at just the point where the 2.5% bit becomes the least relevant part of the formula.FF43 said:
Which happens to be the highest of the three lock measures currently. It was the fixed 2.5% that really ratcheted up the pension in real terms during a period of ultra-low inflation.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Probably index it to inflationrottenborough said:
pension triple lock is the interesting one. Will Tories drop it?FrancisUrquhart said:Jezza ban on ZHC, £10 minimum wage, pension triple lock, free school meals for all primary school kids...
Question is how long until Uk PLC is bust?0 -
This explains the generous odds I was asking about earlier. Tory majority at 1/7 sounds like free money, unless I've missed several of J Corbyn's redeeming features?Pulpstar said:
I'll be glad to help the rebalancing of their books.TheScreamingEagles said:I assume Mike will be doing a thread on this
https://twitter.com/liamyoung/status/8551788054634455040 -
An impressive late run by Macron Jnr to be sure!AlastairMeeks said:What I presume is the final Opinionway poll of the first round is very tight:
Emmanuel Macron 23% (=)
Marine Le Pen 22% (=)
Francois Fillon 21% (+1)
Jean Luc Macron 18% (-1)0 -
That's a lovely bet (To lay) except it won't pay out on 8th June.rottenborough said:Corbynista: you can still get 9 on Jezza being next PM on BF. Get your money in on this sure-fire winner.
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Tory most seats has worse odds but is surely nailed on? A majority looks almost inevitable but with our voting system cannot be absolutely guaranteed.Dadge said:
This explains the generous odds I was asking about earlier. Tory majority at 1/7 sounds like free money, unless I've missed several of J Corbyn's redeeming features?Pulpstar said:
I'll be glad to help the rebalancing of their books.TheScreamingEagles said:I assume Mike will be doing a thread on this
https://twitter.com/liamyoung/status/8551788054634455040 -
What if Gordon Banks had played?OldKingCole said:IIRC there was a black swan in 1970, but I can’t recall what it was. I think Feb 74 wasn’t what what was initially expected, either.
Long time ago, of course.
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Problem with that bet is if it pays out all your newly acquired pounds will be worthless.rottenborough said:Corbynista: you can still get 9 on Jezza being next PM on BF. Get your money in on this sure-fire winner.
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Sorry I should have said it is the "next PM after GE" market.Pulpstar said:
That's a lovely bet (To lay) except it won't pay out on 8th June.rottenborough said:Corbynista: you can still get 9 on Jezza being next PM on BF. Get your money in on this sure-fire winner.
Rules: "Who will be the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom when the first government is formed after the next UK general election. This market will be settled on the formation of the first ministry (government) after assent is given by the reigning monarch after the next UK general election."0 -
There's lots of laying I'd like to do but my pockets aren't deep enough.Pulpstar said:
That's a lovely bet (To lay) except it won't pay out on 8th June.rottenborough said:Corbynista: you can still get 9 on Jezza being next PM on BF. Get your money in on this sure-fire winner.
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Perhaps TSE could ask his pal George, since it is Osborne who ran up the national debt to record levels. In any case, those examples are either cheap or already in place.FrancisUrquhart said:Jezza ban on ZHC, £10 minimum wage, pension triple lock, free school meals for all primary school kids..That is before you get to all the mega spending.
Question is how long until Uk PLC is bust?0 -
Don't get hung up on itTheScreamingEagles said:
It was Roger Casement that really got me hooked on the law and the comma.Carolus_Rex said:
Of course you love the Oxford comma. You're a lawyer:TheScreamingEagles said:
Irony old bean.Carolus_Rex said:
Dunno which to jump on first in the above, the use of "is" rather than "are" or the Oxford comma....TheScreamingEagles said:
They need my help. Grammar, punctuation, and capitalisation is important, it is the difference between helping your uncle Jack off a horse, and helping your uncle jack off a horse.Scott_P said:
and Capitalisation (sic)MarqueeMark said:And punctuation has been reduced to two commas and a full stop. Used randomly.
Edit: and the comma where there should be a full stop!
But I really do love love love love the Oxford comma.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/mar/16/oxford-comma-helps-drivers-win-dispute-about-overtime-pay0 -
If I were them I'd include a manifesto commitment to maintain it until 2020.rottenborough said:
pension triple lock is the interesting one. Will Tories drop it?FrancisUrquhart said:Jezza ban on ZHC, £10 minimum wage, pension triple lock, free school meals for all primary school kids...
Question is how long until Uk PLC is bust?
"we keep our promises"0 -
Blimey, that tweet from SCottP reminds me that I own a 35 room hotel. Easy thing to forget about, simple mistake to make0
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Oops!peter_from_putney said:
An impressive late run by Macron Jnr to be sure!AlastairMeeks said:What I presume is the final Opinionway poll of the first round is very tight:
Emmanuel Macron 23% (=)
Marine Le Pen 22% (=)
Francois Fillon 21% (+1)
Jean Luc Macron 18% (-1)0 -
Ipsos:
Macron 24 (+1)
Le Pen 22 (-0.5)
Fillon 19 (-0.5)
Melenchon 19 (=)0 -
"first time canvassers" - Is that a reference to deck shoes?0
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The savings aspect is an almost inevitable consequence of ultra low interest rates.rcs1000 said:
You need to compare volume, not value. Volume is up 1.9%. So we're shelling out 5.1% more than a year ago, to get 1.9% more stuff.chestnut said:Retail Sales are up 5.1% in value compared to the same month last year.
Online retail is up 19.5% compared to last year.
Unless your income is rising by 3.2% or more, that means you are seeing your real spending power squeezed*.
* Yes, I know there are complications around tax and the like.
Edit to add: household income is up a little less than 4% on a year-over-year basis, so that suggests (worryingly) that the savings rate continues to fall.
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Thanks, incidentally, to @isam's link to the article showing that the French polls, while very consistent, aren't necessarily herding.0
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Just put a hundred quid up at 9.2 for the Corbynistas to get stuck into.rottenborough said:
Sorry I should have said it is the "next PM after GE" market.Pulpstar said:
That's a lovely bet (To lay) except it won't pay out on 8th June.rottenborough said:Corbynista: you can still get 9 on Jezza being next PM on BF. Get your money in on this sure-fire winner.
Rules: "Who will be the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom when the first government is formed after the next UK general election. This market will be settled on the formation of the first ministry (government) after assent is given by the reigning monarch after the next UK general election."0 -
Almost like you forget what the deficit was when George became Chancellor.DecrepitJohnL said:
Perhaps TSE could ask his pal George, since it is Osborne who ran up the national debt to record levels. In any case, those examples are either cheap or already in place.FrancisUrquhart said:Jezza ban on ZHC, £10 minimum wage, pension triple lock, free school meals for all primary school kids..That is before you get to all the mega spending.
Question is how long until Uk PLC is bust?
Anyone know the figure both in absolute and in % of GDP terms ?0 -
Someone has just put few quid at 9.4!Pulpstar said:
Just put a hundred quid up at 9.2 for the Corbynistas to get stuck into.rottenborough said:
Sorry I should have said it is the "next PM after GE" market.Pulpstar said:
That's a lovely bet (To lay) except it won't pay out on 8th June.rottenborough said:Corbynista: you can still get 9 on Jezza being next PM on BF. Get your money in on this sure-fire winner.
Rules: "Who will be the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom when the first government is formed after the next UK general election. This market will be settled on the formation of the first ministry (government) after assent is given by the reigning monarch after the next UK general election."0 -
Was that the first call for another referendum?Morris_Dancer said:I blog on current events. Well, I draw a comparison between the 4th century BC and Nicola Sturgeon's call for a progressive alliance:
http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/the-power-paradox.html0 -
Not worried about the itv "poll"? ;-)Pulpstar said:
Just put a hundred quid up at 9.2 for the Corbynistas to get stuck into.rottenborough said:
Sorry I should have said it is the "next PM after GE" market.Pulpstar said:
That's a lovely bet (To lay) except it won't pay out on 8th June.rottenborough said:Corbynista: you can still get 9 on Jezza being next PM on BF. Get your money in on this sure-fire winner.
Rules: "Who will be the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom when the first government is formed after the next UK general election. This market will be settled on the formation of the first ministry (government) after assent is given by the reigning monarch after the next UK general election."0 -
I've directed the Corbynista to the market.rottenborough said:
Someone has just put few quid at 9.4!Pulpstar said:
Just put a hundred quid up at 9.2 for the Corbynistas to get stuck into.rottenborough said:
Sorry I should have said it is the "next PM after GE" market.Pulpstar said:
That's a lovely bet (To lay) except it won't pay out on 8th June.rottenborough said:Corbynista: you can still get 9 on Jezza being next PM on BF. Get your money in on this sure-fire winner.
Rules: "Who will be the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom when the first government is formed after the next UK general election. This market will be settled on the formation of the first ministry (government) after assent is given by the reigning monarch after the next UK general election."0 -
One of my colleagues was once on the end of some blatant sexism, not getting the same bonus as her two male colleagues. So we bundled her into a cab and took her on a surprise trip to Manolo Blahnik and told her to buy what she wanted - on us.Beverley_C said:
Be honest, that is mostly because you bored and wander off...MarqueeMark said:Women never buy shoes with a man present
So you may have done me an injustice!0 -
£12.50 in next weeks rolling manifesto !!rottenborough said:Labour offering £10 a hour mini wage and will compensate smaller firms who can't afford to pay out.
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The Oxford comma is needed when it is needed. Most of the time it is not.TheScreamingEagles said:
It was Roger Casement that really got me hooked on the law and the comma.Carolus_Rex said:
Of course you love the Oxford comma. You're a lawyer:TheScreamingEagles said:
Irony old bean.Carolus_Rex said:
Dunno which to jump on first in the above, the use of "is" rather than "are" or the Oxford comma....TheScreamingEagles said:
They need my help. Grammar, punctuation, and capitalisation is important, it is the difference between helping your uncle Jack off a horse, and helping your uncle jack off a horse.Scott_P said:
and Capitalisation (sic)MarqueeMark said:And punctuation has been reduced to two commas and a full stop. Used randomly.
Edit: and the comma where there should be a full stop!
But I really do love love love love the Oxford comma.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/mar/16/oxford-comma-helps-drivers-win-dispute-about-overtime-pay0 -
Disagree.chestnut said:
The savings aspect is an almost inevitable consequence of ultra low interest rates.rcs1000 said:
You need to compare volume, not value. Volume is up 1.9%. So we're shelling out 5.1% more than a year ago, to get 1.9% more stuff.chestnut said:Retail Sales are up 5.1% in value compared to the same month last year.
Online retail is up 19.5% compared to last year.
Unless your income is rising by 3.2% or more, that means you are seeing your real spending power squeezed*.
* Yes, I know there are complications around tax and the like.
Edit to add: household income is up a little less than 4% on a year-over-year basis, so that suggests (worryingly) that the savings rate continues to fall.
Switzerland has a savings rate of 18.3% with negative interest rates, Germany has 9.7%, etc.0 -
Not really, the online poll would have just been spammed by Facebook momentum group.FrancisUrquhart said:
Not worried about the itv "poll"? ;-)Pulpstar said:
Just put a hundred quid up at 9.2 for the Corbynistas to get stuck into.rottenborough said:
Sorry I should have said it is the "next PM after GE" market.Pulpstar said:
That's a lovely bet (To lay) except it won't pay out on 8th June.rottenborough said:Corbynista: you can still get 9 on Jezza being next PM on BF. Get your money in on this sure-fire winner.
Rules: "Who will be the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom when the first government is formed after the next UK general election. This market will be settled on the formation of the first ministry (government) after assent is given by the reigning monarch after the next UK general election."0 -
Mr. L, 23 centuries would at least encompass a full generation...0
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The relevance of an absent comma made a recent appearance in the US courtrooms:Dadge said:
The Oxford comma is needed when it is needed. Most of the time it is not.TheScreamingEagles said:
It was Roger Casement that really got me hooked on the law and the comma.Carolus_Rex said:
Of course you love the Oxford comma. You're a lawyer:TheScreamingEagles said:
Irony old bean.Carolus_Rex said:
Dunno which to jump on first in the above, the use of "is" rather than "are" or the Oxford comma....TheScreamingEagles said:
They need my help. Grammar, punctuation, and capitalisation is important, it is the difference between helping your uncle Jack off a horse, and helping your uncle jack off a horse.Scott_P said:
and Capitalisation (sic)MarqueeMark said:And punctuation has been reduced to two commas and a full stop. Used randomly.
Edit: and the comma where there should be a full stop!
But I really do love love love love the Oxford comma.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/mar/16/oxford-comma-helps-drivers-win-dispute-about-overtime-pay
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Well done you!MarqueeMark said:
One of my colleagues was once on the end of some blatant sexism, not getting the same bonus as her two male colleagues. So we bundled her into a cab and took her on a surprise trip to Manolo Blahnik and told her to buy what she wanted - on us.Beverley_C said:
Be honest, that is mostly because you bored and wander off...MarqueeMark said:Women never buy shoes with a man present
So you may have done me an injustice!
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Well, we were all young once.rcs1000 said:
Not a lot of people know this, but OGH used to be a minor.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Patrick McLoughlin, the conservative party Chairman is a former minerCarolus_Rex said:
Ex-miners asking for Tory posters sounds a bit far fetched. Maybe they are just running short of toilet paper.rottenborough said:
Indeed. I hear Labour ex-miners are asking for Tory posters in the NE. This would be funny if we weren't talking about our own democracy.FrancisUrquhart said:
May vs Corbyn on yesterday morning tv news pieces were striking. May doing her Merkel Mutti routine, calm what we need is stability, where as Corbyn was ranting like a Speaker's Corner nutter banging on about the end is nigh.Patrick said:One other thought struck me from listening to Farage last night - namely how important a politician's voice is. We all know looks matter but so does sound.
Farage has, I never fully appreciated before, a lovely voice. Mellifluous. Listenable to. Welcoming. I don't agree with all he says but I like to hear him say it nonetheless.
Blair's voice was clear, confident, articulate. Again, I didn't agree much of the time but I liked listening.
Maggie - clipped, nasal and hectoring. But clear, controlling, powerful. Demanded attention and respect.
Farron - very clear and articulate. Emanates intelligence and passion. Talks bollocks mostly but I want to hear it. A super voice. Unlike Clegg who always sounds whiney and petulant and dismissive and 'I know better than you'.
May - Calm, measured, authoritative, enunciates, trustworthy. And slightly nervous... which is kind of endearing in the country's most powerful person. I think she's been having voice training. I like listening.
Corbyn - Angry. Dimwitted. Breathy. Passionate. Energised. Mumbled quite often. Offputting somehow that I can't quite put my finger on. I want to switch off.
Sturgeon - Har ye nae plook mar dookie the noo? Ya wee fucken numpti. Or something along those lines. It's not the soft Scottish of Morningside.
I am sure Corbynistas thinks that demonstrates passion, he just sounded bloody bonkers.0 -
Cheurfi had been detained in February for questioning in a police station in Meaux, outside Paris, after “informants” had indicated that he was “seeking to obtain weapons to kill policemen”, according to reports.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/20/paris-police-close-part-city-centre-amid-reports-officers-shot/0 -
The thing that boils my piss is this. From 2013
Outrage at local authority plans to abolish apostrophe
Mid Devon District Council's vote on whether to remove apostrophes from street signs 'to avoid confusion' is widely condemned
If only halfwitted thickos could learn how to use apostrophes.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2013/mar/15/council-ban-apostrophe0 -
Surely not...It is surely evidence that 21st Century Socialism is sweeping the nation.Pulpstar said:
Not really, the online poll would have just been spammed by Facebook momentum group.FrancisUrquhart said:
Not worried about the itv "poll"? ;-)Pulpstar said:
Just put a hundred quid up at 9.2 for the Corbynistas to get stuck into.rottenborough said:
Sorry I should have said it is the "next PM after GE" market.Pulpstar said:
That's a lovely bet (To lay) except it won't pay out on 8th June.rottenborough said:Corbynista: you can still get 9 on Jezza being next PM on BF. Get your money in on this sure-fire winner.
Rules: "Who will be the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom when the first government is formed after the next UK general election. This market will be settled on the formation of the first ministry (government) after assent is given by the reigning monarch after the next UK general election."0 -
Congrats! I hope you enjoy taking money off the FrenchSeanT said:Vive la France.
The Ice Twins just got a rave review in the nation's biggest paper. 20minutes. A free paper with 2-3 million captive commuter readers.
http://www.20minutes.fr/livres/2050919-20170420-jeune-fille-pretend-etre-ur-jumelle-pourtant-decedee-intrigue-angoissante-doute-k-tremayne 0 -
Mr. Eagles, dumbing down like that is unacceptable.
Mr. Urquhart, I feel some sympathy for the French here. As with us, it's probably impossible to monitor every single potential lunatic, because there are so many of the zealous nutcases.0 -
You are describing content and accent. I am talking about voice.JonCisBack said:
How interesting, I disagree with a lot of that.Patrick said:One other thought struck me from listening to Farage last night - namely how important a politician's voice is. We all know looks matter but so does sound.
Farage has, I never fully appreciated before, a lovely voice. Mellifluous. Listenable to. Welcoming. I don't agree with all he says but I like to hear him say it nonetheless.
Blair's voice was clear, confident, articulate. Again, I didn't agree much of the time but I liked listening.
Maggie - clipped, nasal and hectoring. But clear, controlling, powerful. Demanded attention and respect.
Farron - very clear and articulate. Emanates intelligence and passion. Talks bollocks mostly but I want to hear it. A super voice. Unlike Clegg who always sounds whiney and petulant and dismissive and 'I know better than you'.
May - Calm, measured, authoritative, enunciates, trustworthy. And slightly nervous... which is kind of endearing in the country's most powerful person. I think she's been having voice training. I like listening.
Corbyn - Angry. Dimwitted. Breathy. Passionate. Energised. Mumbled quite often. Offputting somehow that I can't quite put my finger on. I want to switch off.
Sturgeon - Har ye nae plook mar dookie the noo? Ya wee fucken numpti. Or something along those lines. It's not the soft Scottish of Morningside.
Farage sounds like a braying posh w'nker who smokes far too much and has an opinion of himself approximately 5 times higher than justified. Dreadful. Cameron was similar but not as bad
Farron's voice is also terrible to my ears, I suspect I would prejudicially think the same about anyone with his accent though, apols but I can't stand it. Clegg was much better
Corbyn's not too bad as long as he doesn't get tetchy, and Sturgeon I think always comes across well. More or less agree on Blair and May though.
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Even Morris was a minor once...DavidL said:
Well, we were all young once.rcs1000 said:
Not a lot of people know this, but OGH used to be a minor.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Patrick McLoughlin, the conservative party Chairman is a former minerCarolus_Rex said:
Ex-miners asking for Tory posters sounds a bit far fetched. Maybe they are just running short of toilet paper.rottenborough said:
Indeed. I hear Labour ex-miners are asking for Tory posters in the NE. This would be funny if we weren't talking about our own democracy.FrancisUrquhart said:
May vs Corbyn on yesterday morning tv news pieces were striking. May doing her Merkel Mutti routine, calm what we need is stability, where as Corbyn was ranting like a Speaker's Corner nutter banging on about the end is nigh.Patrick said:One other thought struck me from listening to Farage last night - namely how important a politician's voice is. We all know looks matter but so does sound.
Farage has, I never fully appreciated before, a lovely voice. Mellifluous. Listenable to. Welcoming. I don't agree with all he says but I like to hear him say it nonetheless.
Blair's voice was clear, confident, articulate. Again, I didn't agree much of the time but I liked listening.
Maggie - clipped, nasal and hectoring. But clear, controlling, powerful. Demanded attention and respect.
Farron - very clear and articulate. Emanates intelligence and passion. Talks bollocks mostly but I want to hear it. A super voice. Unlike Clegg who always sounds whiney and petulant and dismissive and 'I know better than you'.
May - Calm, measured, authoritative, enunciates, trustworthy. And slightly nervous... which is kind of endearing in the country's most powerful person. I think she's been having voice training. I like listening.
Corbyn - Angry. Dimwitted. Breathy. Passionate. Energised. Mumbled quite often. Offputting somehow that I can't quite put my finger on. I want to switch off.
Sturgeon - Har ye nae plook mar dookie the noo? Ya wee fucken numpti. Or something along those lines. It's not the soft Scottish of Morningside.
I am sure Corbynistas thinks that demonstrates passion, he just sounded bloody bonkers.0 -
Btw My Facebook friends, alot of whom voted for Ed Miliband last time are having serious reservations regarding Corbyn.0
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What are you attributing it to, and why?rcs1000 said:
Disagree.chestnut said:
The savings aspect is an almost inevitable consequence of ultra low interest rates.rcs1000 said:
You need to compare volume, not value. Volume is up 1.9%. So we're shelling out 5.1% more than a year ago, to get 1.9% more stuff.chestnut said:Retail Sales are up 5.1% in value compared to the same month last year.
Online retail is up 19.5% compared to last year.
Unless your income is rising by 3.2% or more, that means you are seeing your real spending power squeezed*.
* Yes, I know there are complications around tax and the like.
Edit to add: household income is up a little less than 4% on a year-over-year basis, so that suggests (worryingly) that the savings rate continues to fall.
Switzerland has a savings rate of 18.3% with negative interest rates, Germany has 9.7%, etc.0 -
If not quite Alastair Cook's career.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. L, 23 centuries would at least encompass a full generation...
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This is like the letters page of the People's Friend.HurstLlama said:
Quite right Mr. D. I have three pairs of shoes, 1 highly polished black oxfords for weddings, funerals and formal occasions (don't get worn much these days), 1 slightly less polished and softer black oxfords for normal wear, 1 pair brown brogues for semi-formal events outside London. On top of which one pair decent walking boots and one pair Clarkes trekker sandals for walking in the summer. I have had the same combination for thirty years or more, indeed the shoes are at least ten years old though I had to replace the boots two years ago (the old pair finally fell apart beyond repair having been bought in the early eighties) and the sandals last year (the quality of Clarkes footwear has really gone downhill since they moved the manufacturing abroad).Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Urquhart, when my old walking boots (for dog walking) split, I had to find a different pair. Couldn't get the same ones.
Men who enjoy shoe-shopping are deviants.
The same goes for clothing generally. I kept one suit, two or three formal shirts to wear with it other than that I have a few pairs of corduroys and jeans, a couple of pairs of shorts and a bunch of polo or other informal shirts and a few jumpers. I don't seem to need any more than that.
I have kept my tie collection though. I don't know why but I find getting rid of a tie to be beyond my capabilities. Perhaps it's because too many memories are associated with each one.0 -
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A lot of mine were sharing dawn butler interviews with the recurring comment being "f##king shambles".Pulpstar said:Btw My Facebook friends, alot of whom voted for Ed Miliband last time are having serious reservations regarding Corbyn.
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Are they going LibDemwards?Pulpstar said:Btw My Facebook friends, alot of whom voted for Ed Miliband last time are having serious reservations regarding Corbyn.
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Not Andrea Leadsom I'd guess..Scott_P said:Eeewwwwww
@MrHarryCole: Had second old school Tory MP - in all seriousness - refer to the Prime Minister as "mummy" on the phone today. That's twice in a week.0 -
Considering it, one waverer going to stick with Labour due to Farron's Newman interview though.Richard_Nabavi said:
Are they going LibDemwards?Pulpstar said:Btw My Facebook friends, alot of whom voted for Ed Miliband last time are having serious reservations regarding Corbyn.
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His Oxford days?FF43 said:
Even Morris was a minor once...DavidL said:
Well, we were all young once.rcs1000 said:
Not a lot of people know this, but OGH used to be a minor.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Patrick McLoughlin, the conservative party Chairman is a former minerCarolus_Rex said:
Ex-miners asking for Tory posters sounds a bit far fetched. Maybe they are just running short of toilet paper.rottenborough said:
Indeed. I hear Labour ex-miners are asking for Tory posters in the NE. This would be funny if we weren't talking about our own democracy.FrancisUrquhart said:
May vs Corbyn on yesterday morning tv news pieces were striking. May doing her Merkel Mutti routine, calm what we need is stability, where as Corbyn was ranting like a Speaker's Corner nutter banging on about the end is nigh.Patrick said:One other thought struck me from listening to Farage last night - namely how important a politician's voice is. We all know looks matter but so does sound.
Farage has, I never fully appreciated before, a lovely voice. Mellifluous. Listenable to. Welcoming. I don't agree with all he says but I like to hear him say it nonetheless.
Blair's voice was clear, confident, articulate. Again, I didn't agree much of the time but I liked listening.
Maggie - clipped, nasal and hectoring. But clear, controlling, powerful. Demanded attention and respect.
Farron - very clear and articulate. Emanates intelligence and passion. Talks bollocks mostly but I want to hear it. A super voice. Unlike Clegg who always sounds whiney and petulant and dismissive and 'I know better than you'.
May - Calm, measured, authoritative, enunciates, trustworthy. And slightly nervous... which is kind of endearing in the country's most powerful person. I think she's been having voice training. I like listening.
Corbyn - Angry. Dimwitted. Breathy. Passionate. Energised. Mumbled quite often. Offputting somehow that I can't quite put my finger on. I want to switch off.
Sturgeon - Har ye nae plook mar dookie the noo? Ya wee fucken numpti. Or something along those lines. It's not the soft Scottish of Morningside.
I am sure Corbynistas thinks that demonstrates passion, he just sounded bloody bonkers.0
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