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I agree to some degree, although I do think there's a danger that the reason some people are outside the box is that they are completely unsuitable while others, because they've never been in the box, don't really understand how to achieve things.SeanT said:
All true, but my point is more that graduates of the same tiny elitist educational establishments will tend to have similar mindsets- and it's not good if that mindset dominates countries, politically, for decades. The result is stasis, as we see in France.
France needs to think outside the box. That box is the ENA. Macron is another one straight from the box.
America very much thought outside the box with Trump but, if you were a conservative who wanted rid of Obamacare, with hindsight you'd probably have done it with Cruz or Rubio. In other words, you'd have got the more radical outcome with the somewhat less radical candidate.
If you look at other conservative radicals, like Thatcher or Reagan, whilst they had an "outsider" story (the former as a woman in a man's world, the latter as an actor "playing" at politics) that disguised the fact that they actually had pretty conventional political backgrounds. Thatcher had been an MP for 20 years and worked her way up through ministerial ranks, while Reagan had been politically involved for even longer, had a decent stretch as Governor of the largest state in the union, and was on his third Presidential tilt in 1980.
Generally, though, I'm not a fan of the French ultra-elite system. Ideally, politicians need to be sharp people, but not top 0.1% intellects. And the statist group-think of the ENA is unhelpful as you say.
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Yes, I think that is the point - especially since by extension if the UK is not obliged to pay up, then neither is anyone else, and the EU's credit rating turns out to be built on sand. If that's what they mean, then it makes perfect sense, but it's not what they say in that piece.chestnut said:I think the issue is that some of our 'obligations' may not actually be obligations. There was a research paper doing the rounds not so long ago that suggested hardly any of them were binding.
The House of Lords EU Financial Affairs Committee seems to have reached a similar conclusion.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/government-not-obliged-to-pay-52-billion-brexit-divorce-bill-2017-3
It's actually a strong incentive to the EU not to press the point too much.0 -
The difference is that the frothers, lunatics, weirdos and obsessives aren't running the party.Monksfield said:Roll the dice Ms JGP. Don't make the mistake of supposing that the Tories are not just as much a coalition of the sane bound up with their own frothers, lunatics, weirdos and obsessives as any other party.
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Are you sure?Richard_Nabavi said:
The difference is that the frothers, lunatics, weirdos and obsessives aren't running the party.Monksfield said:Roll the dice Ms JGP. Don't make the mistake of supposing that the Tories are not just as much a coalition of the sane bound up with their own frothers, lunatics, weirdos and obsessives as any other party.
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Only frothers and lunatics would think otherwise!Monksfield said:Are you sure?
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Are they trying desperately to find a form of words that gives the hint that the EU's credit rating is built on sand?Richard_Nabavi said:
Yes, I think that is the point - especially since by extension if the UK is not obliged to pay up, then neither is anyone else, and the EU's credit rating turns out to be built on sand. If that's what they mean, then it makes perfect sense, but it's not what they say in that piece.chestnut said:I think the issue is that some of our 'obligations' may not actually be obligations. There was a research paper doing the rounds not so long ago that suggested hardly any of them were binding.
The House of Lords EU Financial Affairs Committee seems to have reached a similar conclusion.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/government-not-obliged-to-pay-52-billion-brexit-divorce-bill-2017-3
It's actually a strong incentive to the EU not to press the point too much.
I'm not saying the Emperor's new clothes aren't wonderful, I'm just saying I'd have chosen different clothes myself.
Of course the UK will pay its obligations, it's just that after we leave the EU it doesn't have any.0 -
Mr. Jessop, yeah, just saw this in Twitterland.
It's Corbyn levels of PR management.0 -
New car purchases have been rising for past x years, despite squeeze on wages. You have to believe that finance and increasingly personal lease contracts are behind that.TOPPING said:I would be interested to know how large the vehicle financing element of overall consumer credit is. You can't drive past exceedingly modest houses these days without seeing a brand spanking new Evoque parked outside.
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I would suggest that in a scenario where the Conservatives have lost seats and votes the renegotiation of the Brexit Treaty might not be a bad idea at all.Richard_Tyndall said:
I would suggest that not renegotiating A50 would be one positive for the Conservatives and a big one at that.
Perhaps if the Conservatives had done a decent job they wouldn't have lost seats and votes in this scenario.
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Good point, well made. – Presumably it will have come as quite a shock to the remaining 27 countries that the true cost of membership per annum is many £millions more than claimed and accruing every year they remain.Richard_Nabavi said:
Yes, I think that is the point - especially since by extension if the UK is not obliged to pay up, then neither is anyone else, and the EU's credit rating turns out to be built on sand. If that's what they mean, then it makes perfect sense, but it's not what they say in that piece.chestnut said:I think the issue is that some of our 'obligations' may not actually be obligations. There was a research paper doing the rounds not so long ago that suggested hardly any of them were binding.
The House of Lords EU Financial Affairs Committee seems to have reached a similar conclusion.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/government-not-obliged-to-pay-52-billion-brexit-divorce-bill-2017-3
It's actually a strong incentive to the EU not to press the point too much.0 -
The EU has almost no outstanding bonds, and i don't even know if it had a formal credit rating.Sandpit said:
Are they trying desperately to find a form of words that gives the hint that the EU's credit rating is built on sand?Richard_Nabavi said:
Yes, I think that is the point - especially since by extension if the UK is not obliged to pay up, then neither is anyone else, and the EU's credit rating turns out to be built on sand. If that's what they mean, then it makes perfect sense, but it's not what they say in that piece.chestnut said:I think the issue is that some of our 'obligations' may not actually be obligations. There was a research paper doing the rounds not so long ago that suggested hardly any of them were binding.
The House of Lords EU Financial Affairs Committee seems to have reached a similar conclusion.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/government-not-obliged-to-pay-52-billion-brexit-divorce-bill-2017-3
It's actually a strong incentive to the EU not to press the point too much.
I'm not saying the Emperor's new clothes aren't wonderful, I'm just saying I'd have chosen different clothes myself.
Of course the UK will pay its obligations, it's just that after we leave the EU it doesn't have any.0 -
"JosiasJessop said:United Airlines: we will volunteer you:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39554421
In a statement United airlines told the BBC: "Flight 3411 from Chicago to Louisville was overbooked."
"After our team looked for volunteers, one customer refused to leave the aircraft voluntarily and law enforcement was asked to come to the gate," the airline added"
Wasn't much of a voluntary process was it
Mindless from the airline - they should have offered more incentive $$$ for someone to leave.
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Blimey, surely litigation in prospect there..TGOHF said:
"JosiasJessop said:United Airlines: we will volunteer you:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39554421
In a statement United airlines told the BBC: "Flight 3411 from Chicago to Louisville was overbooked."
"After our team looked for volunteers, one customer refused to leave the aircraft voluntarily and law enforcement was asked to come to the gate," the airline added"
Wasn't much of a voluntary process was it
Mindless from the airline - they should have offered more incentive $$$ for someone to leave.0 -
It's appalling. United are normally very good at incentivising people to change flights.TGOHF said:Mindless from the airline - they should have offered more incentive $$$ for someone to leave.
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Apparently it has €53bn of bonds outstanding:rcs1000 said:The EU has almost no outstanding bonds, and i don't even know if it had a formal credit rating.
https://ec.europa.eu/info/business-economy-euro/economic-and-fiscal-policy-coordination/eu-financial-assistance/eu-borrower/funding-characteristics-eu_en
Some interesting stuff here too:
https://ec.europa.eu/info/business-economy-euro/economic-and-fiscal-policy-coordination/eu-financial-assistance/eu-borrower/eus-credit-rating_en
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Today's ifop rolling poll:
Le Pen 24 (-0.5)
Macron 23 (-0.5)
Fillon 18.5 (=)
Melenchon 18 (+1)
http://www.parismatch.com/La-presidentielle-en-temps-reel0 -
They ballsed up by only realising they were short of space after they had boarded the plane. Incompetent gate staff would be my guess.JosiasJessop said:United Airlines: we will volunteer you:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-395544210 -
Oh dear , poor Ruthie
https://twitter.com/St_Anderson38/status/851393995372736512/photo/10 -
Virgin Atlantic offer huge quantities of airmiles to people to change down class when they are overbooked and I've frequently been awarded miles just for offering to go on the list of possibles even when I haven't had to move.williamglenn said:
It's appalling. United are normally very good at incentivising people to change flights.TGOHF said:Mindless from the airline - they should have offered more incentive $$$ for someone to leave.
For a few hundred $$$ of United vouchers this could all have been avoided...0 -
They offered $800 and a hotel. No one bit. Instead of upping the offer, or finding alternative transport for the United cabin attendents flying on standby, they "used a computer" to "randomly select" four passengers. On of the random selectees was non-plused, as you can see in the video.williamglenn said:
It's appalling. United are normally very good at incentivising people to change flights.TGOHF said:Mindless from the airline - they should have offered more incentive $$$ for someone to leave.
PR disaster of epic proportions.
As RobD said, how the hell did they end up with more people on the plane than there were seats?0 -
I have never heard an airline do that. Normally the incentives are just made more attractive, until it is idiotic for somebody not to take it.
On a particularly overcrowded flight from San Francisco, I was once offered free return flights to Australia, plus overnight hotel and food in San Fran, to give up my seat until the next day.0 -
I know they are a coalition. I prefer coalitions to be sorted out before the voters get to pick which set they're prepared to trust for a while.Monksfield said:
Roll the dice Ms JGP. Don't make the mistake of supposing that the Tories are not just as much a coalition of the sane bound up with their own frothers, lunatics, weirdos and obsessives as any other party.AnneJGP said:
It really annoys me that ever since I've lived in a place where my vote might make a difference, voting Labour/Lib Dem has been (IMHO) for the birds (Mr Brown, Mr Miliband ...).tlg86 said:
If voters in Tory-Lib Dem marginal think for one moment that voting Lib Dem might put Jezza into Number 10, they'll vote Tory.TheScreamingEagles said:
Labour need not make a single gain at the next election to form the next government.Casino_Royale said:Labour would need to make about 50 gains from the Tories (in England and Wales) to be in with a shout of forming a government with the SNP in GE2020.
To do it outright, they'd need close on one hundred. After the boundary changes, it'll be an even bigger number.
Where are these going to come from?
30 Lib Dem gains from the Blues makes a Rainbow Alliance government viable.
It annoys me even more that this fluke of fate has labelled me a "loyal" Conservative voter.
After all those years living in constituencies where I could happily vote Pro-Life or MRLP or anything at all, really, because it was Dead Donkey in a blue rosette territory.
Grrrr.
And good afternoon, everybody.
An ideal of a 1950s society in 2020 is just as dangerous as Jez's socialist paradise imho.0 -
They offered $800 at the gate.TGOHF said:
Virgin Atlantic offer huge quantities of airmiles to people to change down class when they are overbooked and I've frequently been awarded miles just for offering to go on the list of possibles even when I haven't had to move.williamglenn said:
It's appalling. United are normally very good at incentivising people to change flights.TGOHF said:Mindless from the airline - they should have offered more incentive $$$ for someone to leave.
For a few hundred $$$ of United vouchers this could all have been avoided...0 -
FrancisUrquhart said:
I have never heard an airline do that. Normally the incentives are just made more attractive, until it is idiotic for somebody not to take it.
On a particularly overcrowded flight from San Francisco, I was once offered free return flights to Australia, plus overnight hotel and food in San Fran, to give up my seat until the next day.
Can only think that United had a cap for a domestic flight at $800 - why there isn't a process in place for what happens next is baffling. To turf passengers off for crew is doubling down on stupidity.FrancisUrquhart said:I have never heard an airline do that. Normally the incentives are just made more attractive, until it is idiotic for somebody not to take it.
On a particularly overcrowded flight from San Francisco, I was once offered free return flights to Australia, plus overnight hotel and food in San Fran, to give up my seat until the next day.0 -
It's a mini-industry for students around Christmas/New Year.williamglenn said:
It's appalling. United are normally very good at incentivising people to change flights.TGOHF said:Mindless from the airline - they should have offered more incentive $$$ for someone to leave.
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I believe they were dead heading, they needed to get to the next airport for work. As for overselling, most if not all airlines do it.Anorak said:
They offered $800 and a hotel. No one bit. Instead of upping the offer, or finding alternative transport for the United cabin attendents flying on standby, they "used a computer" to "randomly select" four passengers. On of the random selectees was non-plused, as you can see in the video.williamglenn said:
It's appalling. United are normally very good at incentivising people to change flights.TGOHF said:Mindless from the airline - they should have offered more incentive $$$ for someone to leave.
PR disaster of epic proportions.
As RobD said, how the hell did they end up with more people on the plane than there were seats?0 -
A couple of weeks ago, Ryanair were doing this at the gate. I was almost tempted just see what Michael O'Leary considers is an adequate "incentive"FrancisUrquhart said:I have never heard an airline do that. Normally the incentives are just made more attractive, until it is idiotic for somebody not to take it.
On a particularly overcrowded flight from San Francisco, I was once offered free return flights to Australia, plus overnight hotel and food in San Fran, to give up my seat until the next day.0 -
The worst thing I had happen to me was as a student backpacking, I offered to give up my seat in return for free flights and some spending money. My bags were not loaded on and they said I was the only one they were bumping off and of all those who had checked in they had 1 too many.
They asked I wait in the departure area until the flight went just on the very unlikely off chance that somebody managed to get lost on the way from security to the gate.
So I sat there, last call, another last call, very very last call for a specific individual, no sign. Absolutely utter last call (flight now really late)....nobody...
I get tapped on the shoulder, Mr Urquhart please make your way onto the aircraft....
I soon realise my seat is the very back row, so I have to walk past every single passenger with them all believing I am the arsehole that has made the flight so late. I got more nasty looks than Trump attending a conference for CNN employees....0 -
I'd be surprised if it was random choice, and if it was, it was a bad random choice - airlines used to target soldiers and old people travelling as a couple, IIRC, as they were least likely to kick up a fuss. Professional couples, meanwhile, I would say are most likely to object.FrancisUrquhart said:I have never heard an airline do that. Normally the incentives are just made more attractive, until it is idiotic for somebody not to take it.
On a particularly overcrowded flight from San Francisco, I was once offered free return flights to Australia, plus overnight hotel and food in San Fran, to give up my seat until the next day.0 -
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I've witnessed a few ding-dongs in my time over the same issue, usually at the gate, but also at check-in. Only one airline I'm aware of has had to forcibly remove overbooked passengers from the cabin itself.RobD said:
I believe they were dead heading, they needed to get to the next airport for work. As for overselling, most if not all airlines do it.Anorak said:
They offered $800 and a hotel. No one bit. Instead of upping the offer, or finding alternative transport for the United cabin attendents flying on standby, they "used a computer" to "randomly select" four passengers. On of the random selectees was non-plused, as you can see in the video.williamglenn said:
It's appalling. United are normally very good at incentivising people to change flights.TGOHF said:Mindless from the airline - they should have offered more incentive $$$ for someone to leave.
PR disaster of epic proportions.
As RobD said, how the hell did they end up with more people on the plane than there were seats?
There's usually a jump seat or two spare in the cabin, and one in the cockpit. No idea why the deadheading crew couldn't use those for the 4-hour flight.0 -
Though if the Scottish Tories actually polled 33 to 35% that would be their highest total for decadesmalcolmg said:Oh dear , poor Ruthie
https://twitter.com/St_Anderson38/status/851393995372736512/photo/10 -
Technically the UK is still in the EU until 2019 and the third round is not the sealed dealwilliamglenn said:Global Britain EU forging ahead.
https://twitter.com/danielrosarioeu/status/8513998020677468160 -
Anorak said:
I've witnessed a few ding-dongs in my time over the same issue, usually at the gate, but also at check-in. Only one airline I'm aware of has had to forcibly remove overbooked passengers from the flight.RobD said:
I believe they were dead heading, they needed to get to the next airport for work. As for overselling, most if not all airlines do it.Anorak said:
They offered $800 and a hotel. No one bit. Instead of upping the offer, or finding alternative transport for the United cabin attendents flying on standby, they "used a computer" to "randomly select" four passengers. On of the random selectees was non-plused, as you can see in the video.williamglenn said:
It's appalling. United are normally very good at incentivising people to change flights.TGOHF said:Mindless from the airline - they should have offered more incentive $$$ for someone to leave.
PR disaster of epic proportions.
As RobD said, how the hell did they end up with more people on the plane than there were seats?
There's usually a jump seat or two spare in the cabin, and one in the cockpit. No idea why the deadheading crew couldn't use those for the 4-hour flight.
If they do this often enough, there's always going to be an odd incident that gets out of control.
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I thought the United story would interest people, given PB's demographic.
But in other news, can anyone think why Barclays' boss Jes Staley shouldn't be sacked?
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It would be a miracle.HYUFD said:
Though if the Scottish Tories actually polled 33 to 35% that would be their highest total for decadesmalcolmg said:Oh dear , poor Ruthie
https://twitter.com/St_Anderson38/status/851393995372736512/photo/10 -
Moscow populism and pandering to the ultra-nationalists? Or an quasi-independent effort motivated by Islamic teachings in muslim-dominated Chechnya? Or Moscow allowing it to appease the local population, rather than at a national level?isam said:
Place your bets. Lovely place, Russia.0 -
After last week's reaffirmation of the Tory party as the Nasty party I think they'll be lucky to hold onto 20% support let alone hit 30% !! - Unlike the rUK voters in Scotland are spoilt for alternatives.felix said:
The support levels for May/Davidson at 33/35% suggest the Tory revival in Scotland is continuing to go very well. If they were to poll anywhere near that level [30%] in an election they'd gain 5/6 seats on Baxtercalum said:Some good news for Corbyn - he's ahead of Boris in Scotland !!
https://twitter.com/ChristainWright/status/8514370221619445760 -
Full Lord Ashcroft results here
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2017/04/more-from-my-brexit-research/#more-15143
Hammond scores better than Sturgeon
Can't see that breakdown in the official data malc - seems a bit arbitrarymalcolmg said:Oh dear , poor Ruthie
https://twitter.com/St_Anderson38/status/851393995372736512/photo/1
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/New-Landscape-Full-data-tables-March-2017.pdf
In the official tables - without cherry picking subsamples and making up a table to suit your narrative :
Nicla has a mean score of 32.35
Ruth has a mean score of 38.13
Even Phil Hammond scores 36.66
Nicla - less popular than the NICs shambles chancellor..
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What gave you that idea. I mean we like never ever have discussions of air travel on this forum...Nor leaving a review of a posh restaurant or a decent bottle of plonk.JosiasJessop said:I thought the United story would interest people, given PB's demographic.
But in other news, can anyone think why Barclays' boss Jes Staley shouldn't be sacked?
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Yet more "Liberal" "Democrat" contempt for democracy.Monksfield said:O/T
Good to see Don trolling the PB tories in this post. I wish he'd hang around to contribute to discussion.
However, I don't see LibDems as that likely to get involved in any coalitions in the near term. With either Labour or Tories. The only exception I would see as worthwhile would be on the basis of an agreement to progress electoral reform. No bullshit referenda, a straight agreement involving support in exchange for Lords Reform and the introduction of PR.0 -
Wasn't enough was it.RobD said:
They offered $800 at the gate.TGOHF said:
Virgin Atlantic offer huge quantities of airmiles to people to change down class when they are overbooked and I've frequently been awarded miles just for offering to go on the list of possibles even when I haven't had to move.williamglenn said:
It's appalling. United are normally very good at incentivising people to change flights.TGOHF said:Mindless from the airline - they should have offered more incentive $$$ for someone to leave.
For a few hundred $$$ of United vouchers this could all have been avoided...
Though compared with the bad PR it was a pittance.0 -
Thank you David. They are in the market from September onward so I would be grateful of your continuing impressions over the next few months. Neither parent are "car" people so will rely on recommendations.David_Evershed said:
Just taken delivery of a Jaguar F Pace SUV 3 litre diesel. Excellent.JackW said:
I offered a similar view and was met with a countenance that would have stopped Attila The Hun stone dead. It could be so much worse. Some months back Mrs JackW was transported in a Bentley Bentayga with an interior, she informed me, that matched several outfits. I fear she wasn't entirely being frivolous.philiph said:
Will the good Lady JackW be able to get enough new shoes in the back after a trip to the shops?JackW said:Meanwhile .... Perhaps I might garner an opinion or several from the collective knowledge of the PB petrol-heads.
Audi SQ7
Content Or Not Content ?
That said the SQ7 advice is for a relative of Mrs JackW with numerous young offspring.
Admittedly a second slower than the Audi SQ7 at 6 secs 0-60 and 5mph slower at 150 mph but built in the Midlands.
Tried a Cayenne which is slightly bigger but does not drive as well as the Jaguar - and built in Volkswagen's Slovakia factory like the Audi SQ7.
Note there is an extra £300 pa Vehicle Excise duty on new cars over £40,000 registered after 1st April just gone.0 -
Mr. Monksfield, changing the system of voting without acquiring the approval of the electorate would set a very poor precedent.
Mr. Anorak, it's deeply disturbing.0 -
TSE will probably still tell us they aren't as bad as BA...TGOHF said:
Wasn't enough was it.RobD said:
They offered $800 at the gate.TGOHF said:
Virgin Atlantic offer huge quantities of airmiles to people to change down class when they are overbooked and I've frequently been awarded miles just for offering to go on the list of possibles even when I haven't had to move.williamglenn said:
It's appalling. United are normally very good at incentivising people to change flights.TGOHF said:Mindless from the airline - they should have offered more incentive $$$ for someone to leave.
For a few hundred $$$ of United vouchers this could all have been avoided...
Though compared with the bad PR it was a pittance.0 -
A nice little piece of Peak Guardian here; the comments are a treat.
This week’s question:
My parents never got us Easter eggs as kids and it didn’t harm us. Now my wife says we have to buy our four-year-old daughter one, but I resent having to take part in the annual sugar-fest that is Easter. Am I alone in feeling this way? Should I stick to my guns?
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/apr/08/imho-why-buy-easter-chocolate-eggs-children0 -
BTW, whatever happened to our very own Putin fanboys, LuckyGuy and LondonBob?0
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I think LuckyGuy still posts,Anorak said:BTW, whatever happened to our very own Putin fanboys, LuckyGuy and LondonBob?
LondonMoscow-Bob I haven't seen for ages. Contract...expired?0 -
Yep! Suspect it may be adjusted. Even $2k would have been cheap compared to this bad PR, and undoubtedly someone would have nibbled.TGOHF said:
Wasn't enough was it.RobD said:
They offered $800 at the gate.TGOHF said:
Virgin Atlantic offer huge quantities of airmiles to people to change down class when they are overbooked and I've frequently been awarded miles just for offering to go on the list of possibles even when I haven't had to move.williamglenn said:
It's appalling. United are normally very good at incentivising people to change flights.TGOHF said:Mindless from the airline - they should have offered more incentive $$$ for someone to leave.
For a few hundred $$$ of United vouchers this could all have been avoided...
Though compared with the bad PR it was a pittance.0 -
That would really have got the conversation going: "PB Air had overbooked, and I was asked to give up a seat for a Mr Corbyn. I was offered dinner for two at the Savoy and a bottle of 1970 Cheval Blanc. I refused, and they forced me to stay in a ... Holiday Inn just off the North Circular!"FrancisUrquhart said:
What gave you that idea. I mean we like never ever have discussions of air travel on this forum...Nor leaving a review of a posh restaurant or a decent bottle of plonk.JosiasJessop said:I thought the United story would interest people, given PB's demographic.
But in other news, can anyone think why Barclays' boss Jes Staley shouldn't be sacked?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-395516910 -
Mr. Price, couldn't the warbling scribe buy a sugar-free egg?0
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As a wise man once said "Everybody's got a price"RobD said:
Yep! Suspect it may be adjusted. Even $2k would have been cheap compared to this bad PR, and undoubtedly someone would have nibbled.TGOHF said:
Wasn't enough was it.RobD said:
They offered $800 at the gate.TGOHF said:
Virgin Atlantic offer huge quantities of airmiles to people to change down class when they are overbooked and I've frequently been awarded miles just for offering to go on the list of possibles even when I haven't had to move.williamglenn said:
It's appalling. United are normally very good at incentivising people to change flights.TGOHF said:Mindless from the airline - they should have offered more incentive $$$ for someone to leave.
For a few hundred $$$ of United vouchers this could all have been avoided...
Though compared with the bad PR it was a pittance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WT9wONW5UY0 -
Given the man was a doctor and needed to be in hospital the following morning you can see why he wasn't willing to take the money. This is absolutely terrible PR for United.Pulpstar said:
MeRobD said:
Yep! Suspect it may be adjusted. Even $2k would have been cheap compared to this bad PR, and undoubtedly someone would have nibbled.TGOHF said:
Wasn't enough was it.RobD said:
They offered $800 at the gate.TGOHF said:
Virgin Atlantic offer huge quantities of airmiles to people to change down class when they are overbooked and I've frequently been awarded miles just for offering to go on the list of possibles even when I haven't had to move.williamglenn said:
It's appalling. United are normally very good at incentivising people to change flights.TGOHF said:Mindless from the airline - they should have offered more incentive $$$ for someone to leave.
For a few hundred $$$ of United vouchers this could all have been avoided...
Though compared with the bad PR it was a pittance.
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At that level of compensation they'd stop overbooking, so then they could reduce it again as it was happening so infrequently, and then it would be economic to overbook more, and then they'd have to increase the compensation again, and then ...RobD said:
Yep! Suspect it may be adjusted. Even $2k would have been cheap compared to this bad PR, and undoubtedly someone would have nibbled.TGOHF said:
Wasn't enough was it.RobD said:
They offered $800 at the gate.TGOHF said:
Virgin Atlantic offer huge quantities of airmiles to people to change down class when they are overbooked and I've frequently been awarded miles just for offering to go on the list of possibles even when I haven't had to move.williamglenn said:
It's appalling. United are normally very good at incentivising people to change flights.TGOHF said:Mindless from the airline - they should have offered more incentive $$$ for someone to leave.
For a few hundred $$$ of United vouchers this could all have been avoided...
Though compared with the bad PR it was a pittance.0 -
It'll cost them alot more than $800 in legal costs too.Richard_Tyndall said:
Given the man was a doctor and needed to be in hospital the following morning you can see why he wasn't willing to take the money. This is absolutely terrible PR for United.Pulpstar said:
MeRobD said:
Yep! Suspect it may be adjusted. Even $2k would have been cheap compared to this bad PR, and undoubtedly someone would have nibbled.TGOHF said:
Wasn't enough was it.RobD said:
They offered $800 at the gate.TGOHF said:
Virgin Atlantic offer huge quantities of airmiles to people to change down class when they are overbooked and I've frequently been awarded miles just for offering to go on the list of possibles even when I haven't had to move.williamglenn said:
It's appalling. United are normally very good at incentivising people to change flights.TGOHF said:Mindless from the airline - they should have offered more incentive $$$ for someone to leave.
For a few hundred $$$ of United vouchers this could all have been avoided...
Though compared with the bad PR it was a pittance.0 -
Brilliant!Tissue_Price said:A nice little piece of Peak Guardian here; the comments are a treat.
This week’s question:
My parents never got us Easter eggs as kids and it didn’t harm us. Now my wife says we have to buy our four-year-old daughter one, but I resent having to take part in the annual sugar-fest that is Easter. Am I alone in feeling this way? Should I stick to my guns?
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/apr/08/imho-why-buy-easter-chocolate-eggs-children
On a similar seasonal note, I was somewhat surprised to see a big sign outside our local family-friendly garden centre advertising their EASTER RABBIT HUNT!
Admittedly, rabbits are a serious nuisance round our way, but even so...0 -
United Airlines gave better customer service in that video than BA have ever given me.FrancisUrquhart said:
TSE will probably still tell us they aren't as bad as BA...TGOHF said:
Wasn't enough was it.RobD said:
They offered $800 at the gate.TGOHF said:
Virgin Atlantic offer huge quantities of airmiles to people to change down class when they are overbooked and I've frequently been awarded miles just for offering to go on the list of possibles even when I haven't had to move.williamglenn said:
It's appalling. United are normally very good at incentivising people to change flights.TGOHF said:Mindless from the airline - they should have offered more incentive $$$ for someone to leave.
For a few hundred $$$ of United vouchers this could all have been avoided...
Though compared with the bad PR it was a pittance.
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Corbyn will probably get himself photographed lying down in the aisle of an Easyjet to highlight the problems of overbooking.JosiasJessop said:
That would really have got the conversation going: "PB Air had overbooked, and I was asked to give up a seat for a Mr Corbyn. I was offered dinner for two at the Savoy and a bottle of 1970 Cheval Blanc. I refused, and they forced me to stay in a ... Holiday Inn just off the North Circular!"FrancisUrquhart said:
What gave you that idea. I mean we like never ever have discussions of air travel on this forum...Nor leaving a review of a posh restaurant or a decent bottle of plonk.JosiasJessop said:I thought the United story would interest people, given PB's demographic.
But in other news, can anyone think why Barclays' boss Jes Staley shouldn't be sacked?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-395516910 -
Flights are regularly overbooked. A given percentage of passengers routinely fail to show so Airlines have a formula that tells them how much they can overbook flights depending on route/time/cabin class etc.Anorak said:
They offered $800 and a hotel. No one bit. Instead of upping the offer, or finding alternative transport for the United cabin attendents flying on standby, they "used a computer" to "randomly select" four passengers. On of the random selectees was non-plused, as you can see in the video.williamglenn said:
It's appalling. United are normally very good at incentivising people to change flights.TGOHF said:Mindless from the airline - they should have offered more incentive $$$ for someone to leave.
PR disaster of epic proportions.
As RobD said, how the hell did they end up with more people on the plane than there were seats?0 -
Given its nothing to do with voting but an opinion on particular politicians it suggests nothing of eth sort. The nasty party will go backwards as you say. Personal popularity and she is behind a German politician , no endorsement.calum said:
After last week's reaffirmation of the Tory party as the Nasty party I think they'll be lucky to hold onto 20% support let alone hit 30% !! - Unlike the rUK voters in Scotland are spoilt for alternatives.felix said:
The support levels for May/Davidson at 33/35% suggest the Tory revival in Scotland is continuing to go very well. If they were to poll anywhere near that level [30%] in an election they'd gain 5/6 seats on Baxtercalum said:Some good news for Corbyn - he's ahead of Boris in Scotland !!
https://twitter.com/ChristainWright/status/8514370221619445760 -
I really object to Easter eggs on the following groundsTissue_Price said:A nice little piece of Peak Guardian here; the comments are a treat.
This week’s question:
My parents never got us Easter eggs as kids and it didn’t harm us. Now my wife says we have to buy our four-year-old daughter one, but I resent having to take part in the annual sugar-fest that is Easter. Am I alone in feeling this way? Should I stick to my guns?
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/apr/08/imho-why-buy-easter-chocolate-eggs-children
1) In a family of diabetics, it isn't a good thing
2) Easter eggs pound for pound are really expensive, compare the price of a mars bar per gram to the price per gram of a Mars bar easter egg,
I prefer to tell my kids that Jesus was the first zombie.0 -
A friend of mine has a very dodgy back, and flies very frequently. His back spasmed on a flight back from China, and he was in immense pain. He lay down in the aisle, after which they magically found him a fold-down bed in first class!williamglenn said:
Corbyn will probably get himself photographed lying down in the aisle of an Easyjet to highlight the problems of overbooking.JosiasJessop said:
That would really have got the conversation going: "PB Air had overbooked, and I was asked to give up a seat for a Mr Corbyn. I was offered dinner for two at the Savoy and a bottle of 1970 Cheval Blanc. I refused, and they forced me to stay in a ... Holiday Inn just off the North Circular!"FrancisUrquhart said:
What gave you that idea. I mean we like never ever have discussions of air travel on this forum...Nor leaving a review of a posh restaurant or a decent bottle of plonk.JosiasJessop said:I thought the United story would interest people, given PB's demographic.
But in other news, can anyone think why Barclays' boss Jes Staley shouldn't be sacked?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39551691
He's always wanted to try the trick again.0 -
The ability of some to make a first world problem into a trauma is a gift that keeps on giving.Tissue_Price said:A nice little piece of Peak Guardian here; the comments are a treat.
This week’s question:
My parents never got us Easter eggs as kids and it didn’t harm us. Now my wife says we have to buy our four-year-old daughter one, but I resent having to take part in the annual sugar-fest that is Easter. Am I alone in feeling this way? Should I stick to my guns?
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/apr/08/imho-why-buy-easter-chocolate-eggs-children0 -
What a meanie, the saddo should listen to his normal wife and get daughter an egg rather than hang on to his deprived upbringing by zealots.Tissue_Price said:A nice little piece of Peak Guardian here; the comments are a treat.
This week’s question:
My parents never got us Easter eggs as kids and it didn’t harm us. Now my wife says we have to buy our four-year-old daughter one, but I resent having to take part in the annual sugar-fest that is Easter. Am I alone in feeling this way? Should I stick to my guns?
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/apr/08/imho-why-buy-easter-chocolate-eggs-children0 -
Good point. No doubt they have teams of people (or an algorithm) to work out precisely how much they should overbook. I would have thought extreme cases like these were factored in, but who knows!Anorak said:
At that level of compensation they'd stop overbooking, so then they could reduce it again as it was happening so infrequently, and then it would be economic to overbook more, and then they'd have to increase the compensation again, and then ...RobD said:
Yep! Suspect it may be adjusted. Even $2k would have been cheap compared to this bad PR, and undoubtedly someone would have nibbled.TGOHF said:
Wasn't enough was it.RobD said:
They offered $800 at the gate.TGOHF said:
Virgin Atlantic offer huge quantities of airmiles to people to change down class when they are overbooked and I've frequently been awarded miles just for offering to go on the list of possibles even when I haven't had to move.williamglenn said:
It's appalling. United are normally very good at incentivising people to change flights.TGOHF said:Mindless from the airline - they should have offered more incentive $$$ for someone to leave.
For a few hundred $$$ of United vouchers this could all have been avoided...
Though compared with the bad PR it was a pittance.0 -
If they are not car people then they probably should not be going for the faster 'S' versions of SUVs.JackW said:
Thank you David. They are in the market from September onward so I would be grateful of your continuing impressions over the next few months. Neither parent are "car" people so will rely on recommendations.David_Evershed said:
Just taken delivery of a Jaguar F Pace SUV 3 litre diesel. Excellent.JackW said:
I offered a similar view and was met with a countenance that would have stopped Attila The Hun stone dead. It could be so much worse. Some months back Mrs JackW was transported in a Bentley Bentayga with an interior, she informed me, that matched several outfits. I fear she wasn't entirely being frivolous.philiph said:
Will the good Lady JackW be able to get enough new shoes in the back after a trip to the shops?JackW said:Meanwhile .... Perhaps I might garner an opinion or several from the collective knowledge of the PB petrol-heads.
Audi SQ7
Content Or Not Content ?
That said the SQ7 advice is for a relative of Mrs JackW with numerous young offspring.
Admittedly a second slower than the Audi SQ7 at 6 secs 0-60 and 5mph slower at 150 mph but built in the Midlands.
Tried a Cayenne which is slightly bigger but does not drive as well as the Jaguar - and built in Volkswagen's Slovakia factory like the Audi SQ7.
Note there is an extra £300 pa Vehicle Excise duty on new cars over £40,000 registered after 1st April just gone.0 -
Yeah they already reached out to him once and dragged him out of his seat
https://twitter.com/united/status/8514717818274201600 -
He is -44% to her +11% , ie Hammond 55 behind SturgeonTGOHF said:Full Lord Ashcroft results here
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2017/04/more-from-my-brexit-research/#more-15143
Hammond scores better than Sturgeon
Can't see that breakdown in the official data malc - seems a bit arbitrarymalcolmg said:Oh dear , poor Ruthie
https://twitter.com/St_Anderson38/status/851393995372736512/photo/1
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/New-Landscape-Full-data-tables-March-2017.pdf
In the official tables - without cherry picking subsamples and making up a table to suit your narrative :
Nicla has a mean score of 32.35
Ruth has a mean score of 38.13
Even Phil Hammond scores 36.66
Nicla - less popular than the NICs shambles chancellor..0 -
Mr. Eagles, some do call it Zombie Jesus Day.
But the wise men know he was the Vampire Lord, undead master of the dread rabbit:
http://thaddeuswhite.weebly.com/writing-blog/sir-edric-and-the-vampire-lord0 -
I'm a nerd and I want to see the score histograms for each person. Suspect Sturgeon's is somewhat bimodal..malcolmg said:
He is -44% to her +11% , ie Hammond 55 behind SturgeonTGOHF said:Full Lord Ashcroft results here
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2017/04/more-from-my-brexit-research/#more-15143
Hammond scores better than Sturgeon
Can't see that breakdown in the official data malc - seems a bit arbitrarymalcolmg said:Oh dear , poor Ruthie
https://twitter.com/St_Anderson38/status/851393995372736512/photo/1
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/New-Landscape-Full-data-tables-March-2017.pdf
In the official tables - without cherry picking subsamples and making up a table to suit your narrative :
Nicla has a mean score of 32.35
Ruth has a mean score of 38.13
Even Phil Hammond scores 36.66
Nicla - less popular than the NICs shambles chancellor.. 0 -
Just checked my flight later this week... thankfully it is quite emptyTheScreamingEagles said:Yeah they already reached out to him once and dragged him out of his seat
twitter.com/united/status/851471781827420160 0 -
Page 14 chap - you are misreading itmalcolmg said:
He is -44% to her +11% , ie Hammond 55 behind SturgeonTGOHF said:Full Lord Ashcroft results here
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2017/04/more-from-my-brexit-research/#more-15143
Hammond scores better than Sturgeon
Can't see that breakdown in the official data malc - seems a bit arbitrarymalcolmg said:Oh dear , poor Ruthie
https://twitter.com/St_Anderson38/status/851393995372736512/photo/1
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/New-Landscape-Full-data-tables-March-2017.pdf
In the official tables - without cherry picking subsamples and making up a table to suit your narrative :
Nicla has a mean score of 32.35
Ruth has a mean score of 38.13
Even Phil Hammond scores 36.66
Nicla - less popular than the NICs shambles chancellor..
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/ALL-CHANGE-Lord-Ashcroft-Polls-April-2017.pdf
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I remember being at Aberdeen airport and the flight was overbooked. They asked for volunteers. No-one budged. They asked again. No-one budged. They then said there was a payment of £42 to those who volunteered. I was nearly trampled to death in the rush.
Offered as a true story, not to reinforce the stereotype of Scots being tight bastards.0 -
'Re-accommodate' - how delightfully euphemistic!TheScreamingEagles said:Yeah they already reached out to him once and dragged him out of his seat
https://twitter.com/united/status/8514717818274201600 -
Logically yes. However that has never stopped them in the past buying at the top end once the decision on the make and model was settled ....David_Evershed said:
If they are not car people then they probably should not be going for the faster 'S' versions of SUVs.JackW said:
Thank you David. They are in the market from September onward so I would be grateful of your continuing impressions over the next few months. Neither parent are "car" people so will rely on recommendations.David_Evershed said:
Just taken delivery of a Jaguar F Pace SUV 3 litre diesel. Excellent.JackW said:
I offered a similar view and was met with a countenance that would have stopped Attila The Hun stone dead. It could be so much worse. Some months back Mrs JackW was transported in a Bentley Bentayga with an interior, she informed me, that matched several outfits. I fear she wasn't entirely being frivolous.philiph said:
Will the good Lady JackW be able to get enough new shoes in the back after a trip to the shops?JackW said:Meanwhile .... Perhaps I might garner an opinion or several from the collective knowledge of the PB petrol-heads.
Audi SQ7
Content Or Not Content ?
That said the SQ7 advice is for a relative of Mrs JackW with numerous young offspring.
Admittedly a second slower than the Audi SQ7 at 6 secs 0-60 and 5mph slower at 150 mph but built in the Midlands.
Tried a Cayenne which is slightly bigger but does not drive as well as the Jaguar - and built in Volkswagen's Slovakia factory like the Audi SQ7.
Note there is an extra £300 pa Vehicle Excise duty on new cars over £40,000 registered after 1st April just gone.
Mrs JackW has the same weakness for high end personal tootsie mobility coverings ....
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Mr. Mark, few days ago now but cheers for posting that interesting anecdote on Meatloaf. [I'd left before you posted it, hence my absence of a response at the time].
Edited extra bit: Meatloaf/your wife, obviously.
Those being two separate people.0 -
No, he is 36.66 to her 32.35, ie 4.31% ahead.malcolmg said:
He is -44% to her +11% , ie Hammond 55 behind SturgeonTGOHF said:Full Lord Ashcroft results here
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2017/04/more-from-my-brexit-research/#more-15143
Hammond scores better than Sturgeon
Can't see that breakdown in the official data malc - seems a bit arbitrarymalcolmg said:Oh dear , poor Ruthie
https://twitter.com/St_Anderson38/status/851393995372736512/photo/1
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/New-Landscape-Full-data-tables-March-2017.pdf
In the official tables - without cherry picking subsamples and making up a table to suit your narrative :
Nicla has a mean score of 32.35
Ruth has a mean score of 38.13
Even Phil Hammond scores 36.66
Nicla - less popular than the NICs shambles chancellor..
You are trying to extract numbers from the published table but as they are not themselves published the numbers produced are meaningless. It's the same as when people insisted on trying to draw VI numbers from ComRes polls that weren't there.0 -
a Chechen government spokesperson denied that there are any gay people to detain, insisting that “you can’t detain and harass someone who doesn’t exist in the republic”Anorak said:
Moscow populism and pandering to the ultra-nationalists? Or an quasi-independent effort motivated by Islamic teachings in muslim-dominated Chechnya? Or Moscow allowing it to appease the local population, rather than at a national level?isam said:
Place your bets. Lovely place, Russia.
Chilling.0 -
Ugh, whoever made that PDF needs to be shot.. or at least told how to make one without degrading image quality.TGOHF said:
Page 14 chap - you are misreading itmalcolmg said:
He is -44% to her +11% , ie Hammond 55 behind SturgeonTGOHF said:Full Lord Ashcroft results here
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2017/04/more-from-my-brexit-research/#more-15143
Hammond scores better than Sturgeon
Can't see that breakdown in the official data malc - seems a bit arbitrarymalcolmg said:Oh dear , poor Ruthie
https://twitter.com/St_Anderson38/status/851393995372736512/photo/1
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/New-Landscape-Full-data-tables-March-2017.pdf
In the official tables - without cherry picking subsamples and making up a table to suit your narrative :
Nicla has a mean score of 32.35
Ruth has a mean score of 38.13
Even Phil Hammond scores 36.66
Nicla - less popular than the NICs shambles chancellor..
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/ALL-CHANGE-Lord-Ashcroft-Polls-April-2017.pdf0 -
The one and only time I was given gas'n'air as pain relief was not during childbirth but when my back went into spasm while driving a car. The pain was atrocious. I could not move and only some marvelous ambulance men and being drugged up to the eyeballs got me out.JosiasJessop said:
A friend of mine has a very dodgy back, and flies very frequently. His back spasmed on a flight back from China, and he was in immense pain. He lay down in the aisle, after which they magically found him a fold-down bed in first class!williamglenn said:
Corbyn will probably get himself photographed lying down in the aisle of an Easyjet to highlight the problems of overbooking.JosiasJessop said:
That would really have got the conversation going: "PB Air had overbooked, and I was asked to give up a seat for a Mr Corbyn. I was offered dinner for two at the Savoy and a bottle of 1970 Cheval Blanc. I refused, and they forced me to stay in a ... Holiday Inn just off the North Circular!"FrancisUrquhart said:
What gave you that idea. I mean we like never ever have discussions of air travel on this forum...Nor leaving a review of a posh restaurant or a decent bottle of plonk.JosiasJessop said:I thought the United story would interest people, given PB's demographic.
But in other news, can anyone think why Barclays' boss Jes Staley shouldn't be sacked?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39551691
He's always wanted to try the trick again.
Mind you, childbirth is an absolute doddle compared to having erythromycin injected into your veins four times a day for a week or a venography when you have a DVT.
As for Mr Staley - there is something we aren't being told about this story.
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But you got your £42 in the end ....MarqueeMark said:I remember being at Aberdeen airport and the flight was overbooked. They asked for volunteers. No-one budged. They asked again. No-one budged. They then said there was a payment of £42 to those who volunteered. I was nearly trampled to death in the rush.
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MarqueeMark said:
I remember being at Aberdeen airport and the flight was overbooked. They asked for volunteers. No-one budged. They asked again. No-one budged. They then said there was a payment of £42 to those who volunteered. I was nearly trampled to death in the rush.
Offered as a true story, not to reinforce the stereotype of Scots being tight bastards. 0 -
It's been done in Word. Nuff said.RobD said:
Ugh, whoever made that PDF needs to be shot.. or at least told how to make one without degrading image quality.TGOHF said:
Page 14 chap - you are misreading itmalcolmg said:
He is -44% to her +11% , ie Hammond 55 behind SturgeonTGOHF said:Full Lord Ashcroft results here
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2017/04/more-from-my-brexit-research/#more-15143
Hammond scores better than Sturgeon
Can't see that breakdown in the official data malc - seems a bit arbitrarymalcolmg said:Oh dear , poor Ruthie
https://twitter.com/St_Anderson38/status/851393995372736512/photo/1
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/New-Landscape-Full-data-tables-March-2017.pdf
In the official tables - without cherry picking subsamples and making up a table to suit your narrative :
Nicla has a mean score of 32.35
Ruth has a mean score of 38.13
Even Phil Hammond scores 36.66
Nicla - less popular than the NICs shambles chancellor..
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/ALL-CHANGE-Lord-Ashcroft-Polls-April-2017.pdf0 -
Because its what most people do in whistleblowing situations, only they are better are not getting caught?JosiasJessop said:I thought the United story would interest people, given PB's demographic.
But in other news, can anyone think why Barclays' boss Jes Staley shouldn't be sacked?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-395516910 -
That's no excuseThreeQuidder said:
It's been done in Word. Nuff said.RobD said:
Ugh, whoever made that PDF needs to be shot.. or at least told how to make one without degrading image quality.TGOHF said:
Page 14 chap - you are misreading itmalcolmg said:
He is -44% to her +11% , ie Hammond 55 behind SturgeonTGOHF said:Full Lord Ashcroft results here
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2017/04/more-from-my-brexit-research/#more-15143
Hammond scores better than Sturgeon
Can't see that breakdown in the official data malc - seems a bit arbitrarymalcolmg said:Oh dear , poor Ruthie
https://twitter.com/St_Anderson38/status/851393995372736512/photo/1
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/New-Landscape-Full-data-tables-March-2017.pdf
In the official tables - without cherry picking subsamples and making up a table to suit your narrative :
Nicla has a mean score of 32.35
Ruth has a mean score of 38.13
Even Phil Hammond scores 36.66
Nicla - less popular than the NICs shambles chancellor..
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/ALL-CHANGE-Lord-Ashcroft-Polls-April-2017.pdf 0 -
You are using the English numbersTGOHF said:
Page 14 chap - you are misreading itmalcolmg said:
He is -44% to her +11% , ie Hammond 55 behind SturgeonTGOHF said:Full Lord Ashcroft results here
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2017/04/more-from-my-brexit-research/#more-15143
Hammond scores better than Sturgeon
Can't see that breakdown in the official data malc - seems a bit arbitrarymalcolmg said:Oh dear , poor Ruthie
https://twitter.com/St_Anderson38/status/851393995372736512/photo/1
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/New-Landscape-Full-data-tables-March-2017.pdf
In the official tables - without cherry picking subsamples and making up a table to suit your narrative :
Nicla has a mean score of 32.35
Ruth has a mean score of 38.13
Even Phil Hammond scores 36.66
Nicla - less popular than the NICs shambles chancellor..
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/ALL-CHANGE-Lord-Ashcroft-Polls-April-2017.pdf0 -
UAL share price up 1%.
The power of social media
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https://theleadershipnetwork.com/article/lean-manufacturing/lean-leadership
Just before taking over as CEO [in 2015] he took a flight from Chicago, one of United Airlines’ major hubs. Munoz watched as two people were denied boarding because the flight had been oversold.
He sat in a cramped 50-seat regional jet for 30 minutes because the plane was delayed on the tarmac, and waited at the other end too because of backups at the gate. He then waited five hours for his luggage. He struck up a conversation with other passengers – baiting them about the long delays.
They agreed, but to his surprise they immediately followed up with: “Wasn’t that woman nice on that flight?” They were speaking of the flight attendant, Jenna. Oscar realised that Jenna’s good grace and excellent manners had been the highlight of an otherwise terrible flight.
It was a watershed moment for Oscar.0 -
It's a Uk wide poll - only the naive would use 9% of the sample size as a basis for anything other than their own ignorance.malcolmg said:
You are using the English numbersTGOHF said:
Page 14 chap - you are misreading itmalcolmg said:
He is -44% to her +11% , ie Hammond 55 behind SturgeonTGOHF said:Full Lord Ashcroft results here
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2017/04/more-from-my-brexit-research/#more-15143
Hammond scores better than Sturgeon
Can't see that breakdown in the official data malc - seems a bit arbitrarymalcolmg said:Oh dear , poor Ruthie
https://twitter.com/St_Anderson38/status/851393995372736512/photo/1
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/New-Landscape-Full-data-tables-March-2017.pdf
In the official tables - without cherry picking subsamples and making up a table to suit your narrative :
Nicla has a mean score of 32.35
Ruth has a mean score of 38.13
Even Phil Hammond scores 36.66
Nicla - less popular than the NICs shambles chancellor..
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/ALL-CHANGE-Lord-Ashcroft-Polls-April-2017.pdf0 -
Last time I looked, yeah.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Mark, few days ago now but cheers for posting that interesting anecdote on Meatloaf. [I'd left before you posted it, hence my absence of a response at the time].
Edited extra bit: Meatloaf/your wife, obviously.
Those being two separate people.0 -
Sympathies. Back pain is hideous.Cyclefree said:
The one and only time I was given gas'n'air as pain relief was not during childbirth but when my back went into spasm while driving a car. The pain was atrocious. I could not move and only some marvelous ambulance men and being drugged up to the eyeballs got me out.JosiasJessop said:
A friend of mine has a very dodgy back, and flies very frequently. His back spasmed on a flight back from China, and he was in immense pain. He lay down in the aisle, after which they magically found him a fold-down bed in first class!williamglenn said:
Corbyn will probably get himself photographed lying down in the aisle of an Easyjet to highlight the problems of overbooking.JosiasJessop said:
That would really have got the conversation going: "PB Air had overbooked, and I was asked to give up a seat for a Mr Corbyn. I was offered dinner for two at the Savoy and a bottle of 1970 Cheval Blanc. I refused, and they forced me to stay in a ... Holiday Inn just off the North Circular!"FrancisUrquhart said:
What gave you that idea. I mean we like never ever have discussions of air travel on this forum...Nor leaving a review of a posh restaurant or a decent bottle of plonk.JosiasJessop said:I thought the United story would interest people, given PB's demographic.
But in other news, can anyone think why Barclays' boss Jes Staley shouldn't be sacked?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39551691
He's always wanted to try the trick again.
Mind you, childbirth is an absolute doddle compared to having erythromycin injected into your veins four times a day for a week or a venography when you have a DVT.
As for Mr Staley - there is something we aren't being told about this story.
Transport always does it for my friend. He has a stand-up station at work (and has lost several stone in weight since he got one), but has had his back go several times whilst driving and even on a ferry to Northern Ireland. Lying down helps, and he once rolled out of the car and lay down in the tarmac at a motorway services as his wife blocked off the space to other cars!
I wondered what your view would be on the Staley story. The write-ups of it insinuate there is more to it, but IMV it stinks. There'd need to be some really good extenuating circumstances to excuse him ...0 -
"watershed moment" - UGH.williamglenn said:https://theleadershipnetwork.com/article/lean-manufacturing/lean-leadership
Just before taking over as CEO [in 2015] he took a flight from Chicago, one of United Airlines’ major hubs. Munoz watched as two people were denied boarding because the flight had been oversold.
He sat in a cramped 50-seat regional jet for 30 minutes because the plane was delayed on the tarmac, and waited at the other end too because of backups at the gate. He then waited five hours for his luggage. He struck up a conversation with other passengers – baiting them about the long delays.
They agreed, but to his surprise they immediately followed up with: “Wasn’t that woman nice on that flight?” They were speaking of the flight attendant, Jenna. Oscar realised that Jenna’s good grace and excellent manners had been the highlight of an otherwise terrible flight.
It was a watershed moment for Oscar.0 -
If that's true, then all the more reason why he should get sacked. pour encourager les autreskle4 said:
Because its what most people do in whistleblowing situations, only they are better are not getting caught?JosiasJessop said:I thought the United story would interest people, given PB's demographic.
But in other news, can anyone think why Barclays' boss Jes Staley shouldn't be sacked?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-395516910 -
Great figures for a Scottish nationalist politician in a UK wide poll.TGOHF said:
It's a Uk wide poll - only the naive would use 9% of the sample size as a basis for anything other than their own ignorance.malcolmg said:
You are using the English numbersTGOHF said:
Page 14 chap - you are misreading itmalcolmg said:
He is -44% to her +11% , ie Hammond 55 behind SturgeonTGOHF said:Full Lord Ashcroft results here
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2017/04/more-from-my-brexit-research/#more-15143
Hammond scores better than Sturgeon
Can't see that breakdown in the official data malc - seems a bit arbitrarymalcolmg said:Oh dear , poor Ruthie
https://twitter.com/St_Anderson38/status/851393995372736512/photo/1
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/New-Landscape-Full-data-tables-March-2017.pdf
In the official tables - without cherry picking subsamples and making up a table to suit your narrative :
Nicla has a mean score of 32.35
Ruth has a mean score of 38.13
Even Phil Hammond scores 36.66
Nicla - less popular than the NICs shambles chancellor..
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/ALL-CHANGE-Lord-Ashcroft-Polls-April-2017.pdf0 -
Quite. I do remember, however, when walking the Lairig Ghru some years ago that there is a smallish loch in the middle with a stream coming out of each end, one going to the north sea and one going to the north Atlantic. It was a genuine watershed and quite something to see.AlastairMeeks said:
"watershed moment" - UGH.williamglenn said:https://theleadershipnetwork.com/article/lean-manufacturing/lean-leadership
Just before taking over as CEO [in 2015] he took a flight from Chicago, one of United Airlines’ major hubs. Munoz watched as two people were denied boarding because the flight had been oversold.
He sat in a cramped 50-seat regional jet for 30 minutes because the plane was delayed on the tarmac, and waited at the other end too because of backups at the gate. He then waited five hours for his luggage. He struck up a conversation with other passengers – baiting them about the long delays.
They agreed, but to his surprise they immediately followed up with: “Wasn’t that woman nice on that flight?” They were speaking of the flight attendant, Jenna. Oscar realised that Jenna’s good grace and excellent manners had been the highlight of an otherwise terrible flight.
It was a watershed moment for Oscar.0 -
Unless they have inherited a profitable pie works, they would be well advised to steer clear of a diesel. The congestion charges are going to be horrific. Perhaps look at hybrids.David_Evershed said:
If they are not car people then they probably should not be going for the faster 'S' versions of SUVs.JackW said:
Thank you David. They are in the market from September onward so I would be grateful of your continuing impressions over the next few months. Neither parent are "car" people so will rely on recommendations.David_Evershed said:
Just taken delivery of a Jaguar F Pace SUV 3 litre diesel. Excellent.JackW said:
I offered a similar view and was met with a countenance that would have stopped Attila The Hun stone dead. It could be so much worse. Some months back Mrs JackW was transported in a Bentley Bentayga with an interior, she informed me, that matched several outfits. I fear she wasn't entirely being frivolous.philiph said:
Will the good Lady JackW be able to get enough new shoes in the back after a trip to the shops?JackW said:Meanwhile .... Perhaps I might garner an opinion or several from the collective knowledge of the PB petrol-heads.
Audi SQ7
Content Or Not Content ?
That said the SQ7 advice is for a relative of Mrs JackW with numerous young offspring.
Admittedly a second slower than the Audi SQ7 at 6 secs 0-60 and 5mph slower at 150 mph but built in the Midlands.
Tried a Cayenne which is slightly bigger but does not drive as well as the Jaguar - and built in Volkswagen's Slovakia factory like the Audi SQ7.
Note there is an extra £300 pa Vehicle Excise duty on new cars over £40,000 registered after 1st April just gone.
https://www.lexus.co.uk/car-models/rx/rx-450h/#Introduction
Though SUV's are not for me.0 -
In this case someone screwed up big time. If they unloaded someone who had already boarded for their own reason (he wasn't drunk, disruptive etc) then they'll have the book thrown at them.FrancisUrquhart said:
What gave you that idea. I mean we like never ever have discussions of air travel on this forum...Nor leaving a review of a posh restaurant or a decent bottle of plonk.JosiasJessop said:I thought the United story would interest people, given PB's demographic.
But in other news, can anyone think why Barclays' boss Jes Staley shouldn't be sacked?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39551691
If $800 wasn't enough, then they should have made it $1000, a night in the best hotel in town and a first class upgrade the next day.
These things aren't difficult to do, if you give the person in charge on the ground sufficient authority to deal with the unexpected.if you employ a 'customer service manager', then give him permission to do whatever needs doing to diffuse a situation like this. That the CEO had to get involved says this cost a LOT more than $800.0 -
Anyone dumb enough to use Word for something like that is too dumb to know how to get Word to preserve good image quality...RobD said:
That's no excuseThreeQuidder said:
It's been done in Word. Nuff said.RobD said:
Ugh, whoever made that PDF needs to be shot.. or at least told how to make one without degrading image quality.TGOHF said:
Page 14 chap - you are misreading itmalcolmg said:
He is -44% to her +11% , ie Hammond 55 behind SturgeonTGOHF said:Full Lord Ashcroft results here
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2017/04/more-from-my-brexit-research/#more-15143
Hammond scores better than Sturgeon
Can't see that breakdown in the official data malc - seems a bit arbitrarymalcolmg said:Oh dear , poor Ruthie
https://twitter.com/St_Anderson38/status/851393995372736512/photo/1
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/New-Landscape-Full-data-tables-March-2017.pdf
In the official tables - without cherry picking subsamples and making up a table to suit your narrative :
Nicla has a mean score of 32.35
Ruth has a mean score of 38.13
Even Phil Hammond scores 36.66
Nicla - less popular than the NICs shambles chancellor..
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/ALL-CHANGE-Lord-Ashcroft-Polls-April-2017.pdf0
