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Unless it's a glossary. Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time glossaries could be quite amusing in parts.Morris_Dancer said:As an aside, endnotes in books, rather than footnotes, are the work of Satan. Who the hell (excepting Beelzebub) thinks that it's better to have to consult the back of the book rather than have a footnote?
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Lazy compositors? It is presumably much harder work to keep footnotes in the right place than endnotes as a work is revised; or rather it was until the advent of LaTex which does it all for you.Morris_Dancer said:As an aside, endnotes in books, rather than footnotes, are the work of Satan. Who the hell (excepting Beelzebub) thinks that it's better to have to consult the back of the book rather than have a footnote?
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Top tip - two book marks!Morris_Dancer said:As an aside, endnotes in books, rather than footnotes, are the work of Satan. Who the hell (excepting Beelzebub) thinks that it's better to have to consult the back of the book rather than have a footnote?
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It's because endnotes are cheaper to print. No other reason.Ishmael_Z said:
Lazy compositors? It is presumably much harder work to keep footnotes in the right place than endnotes as a work is revised; or rather it was until the advent of LaTex which does it all for you.Morris_Dancer said:As an aside, endnotes in books, rather than footnotes, are the work of Satan. Who the hell (excepting Beelzebub) thinks that it's better to have to consult the back of the book rather than have a footnote?
I agree with you they are very inferior to footnotes in every possible way apart from that.0 -
Mr. Rentool, when reading it, I do shove the bookmark in the back, but it's still tedious.
Mr. Z, perhaps. My annoyance is exacerbated by the footnotes in the introduction.
Mr. Thompson, indeed, but a glossary is more akin to an appendix.
Edited extra bit: Mr. Doethur, I was unaware of that. Cheers for the info.0 -
TheScreamingEagles said:
Much more subtler than that.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, is it something like "tell you what I want, I really really want"?
TSE: The man who redefines "subtle".
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Bad example, Mortimer. Trump lost the vote, and won by campaigning unconventionally in states his opponent was too stupid to think were vulnerable.Mortimer said:
The left sneaks the odd victory through non conventional means. Meanwhile the right and centre flourish by convincing voters....The_Apocalypse said:
In your post you said 'real opposition', not 'persuading Rust Belt voters'. Those two things are not necessarily the same for a start.Mortimer said:
Look at it this way. Calm, measured opposition gains ideological traction, fundraising and pan-national support.
Marching on the coast doesn't convince the flyover states of the validity of liberal arguments.
You're a soccer mom in Iowa - say - and voted for Trump despite some reservations. Marching makes the opposition look far too liberal to attract voters next time around.
Secondly, Donald Trump was hardly 'calm, measured' during his campaign or even now - and he still won.
Furthermore, the Women's March was (generally) calm and measured. It was a peaceful protest. Many die-hard Conservatives won't see protest as peaceful and calm because it is a method of opposition that is generally disliked by them. But the Left have employed methods of protest before on issues that they care about - and have won.
Moreover, a 'Conservative' issue is not necessarily an issue which decides elections. It is likely to be issues such as the economy, healthcare, and immigration which will be significant in determining whether Rust Belt voters swing the Democrats way, as opposed to abortion.0 -
Ishmael_Z said:
Lazy compositors? It is presumably much harder work to keep footnotes in the right place than endnotes as a work is revised; or rather it was until the advent of LaTex which does it all for you.Morris_Dancer said:As an aside, endnotes in books, rather than footnotes, are the work of Satan. Who the hell (excepting Beelzebub) thinks that it's better to have to consult the back of the book rather than have a footnote?
Any modern Word Processor will handle footnotes with ease.
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Anyway, I must be off. Tomorrow could be quite an interesting political day. And F1 testing resumes on the 7th. Just three weeks until the first race weekend.0
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Really? Word is beyond useless for purposes of producing print-ready files; haven't tried anything else. I suspect LaTex would blow your socks off if you tried it.MarkHopkins said:Ishmael_Z said:
Lazy compositors? It is presumably much harder work to keep footnotes in the right place than endnotes as a work is revised; or rather it was until the advent of LaTex which does it all for you.Morris_Dancer said:As an aside, endnotes in books, rather than footnotes, are the work of Satan. Who the hell (excepting Beelzebub) thinks that it's better to have to consult the back of the book rather than have a footnote?
Any modern Word Processor will handle footnotes with ease.0 -
Yeah. He got it wrong, not so much by calling a referendum but by not remaining neutral. Nonetheless campaigning to remain in Europe doesn't make him a Lib Dem. It would also have made the future of his party less dependent on the success of Brexit.Philip_Thompson said:
Don't ask people what they think of an issue then be surprised when they answer. That's like asking a group of people if they want Chinese or Indian for dinner then getting angry that they said Chinese while you wanted Indian. Don't give a choice if you aren't happy with both outcomes.midwinter said:Cameron probably thought that people who based their entire political philosophy on one issue were crazy. Hardly makes him a Lib Dem does it.
If it goes wrong and Labour pick a centrist, electable leader which WILL happen sometime sooner rather than later then the double digit poll leads will last about as long as the Brown bounce.
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Hehe - I wondered who would pick me up on that.ydoethur said:
Bad example, Mortimer. Trump lost the vote, and won by campaigning unconventionally in states his opponent was too stupid to think were vulnerable.Mortimer said:
The left sneaks the odd victory through non conventional means. Meanwhile the right and centre flourish by convincing voters....The_Apocalypse said:
In your post you said 'real opposition', not 'persuading Rust Belt voters'. Those two things are not necessarily the same for a start.Mortimer said:
Look at it this way. Calm, measured opposition gains ideological traction, fundraising and pan-national support.
Marching on the coast doesn't convince the flyover states of the validity of liberal arguments.
You're a soccer mom in Iowa - say - and voted for Trump despite some reservations. Marching makes the opposition look far too liberal to attract voters next time around.
Secondly, Donald Trump was hardly 'calm, measured' during his campaign or even now - and he still won.
Furthermore, the Women's March was (generally) calm and measured. It was a peaceful protest. Many die-hard Conservatives won't see protest as peaceful and calm because it is a method of opposition that is generally disliked by them. But the Left have employed methods of protest before on issues that they care about - and have won.
Moreover, a 'Conservative' issue is not necessarily an issue which decides elections. It is likely to be issues such as the economy, healthcare, and immigration which will be significant in determining whether Rust Belt voters swing the Democrats way, as opposed to abortion.
But, numbers aside, he won according to the rules of the election.0 -
Ishmael_Z said:
Really? Word is beyond useless for purposes of producing print-ready files; haven't tried anything else. I suspect LaTex would blow your socks off if you tried it.MarkHopkins said:Ishmael_Z said:
Lazy compositors? It is presumably much harder work to keep footnotes in the right place than endnotes as a work is revised; or rather it was until the advent of LaTex which does it all for you.Morris_Dancer said:As an aside, endnotes in books, rather than footnotes, are the work of Satan. Who the hell (excepting Beelzebub) thinks that it's better to have to consult the back of the book rather than have a footnote?
Any modern Word Processor will handle footnotes with ease.
Hey. It's winter.
I need my socks on, thank you very much.
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Give credit where it's due. Hillary didn't want their votes. The Ascendant were going to sweep her to victory.ydoethur said:
Bad example, Mortimer. Trump lost the vote, and won by campaigning unconventionally in states his opponent was too stupid to think were vulnerable.Mortimer said:
The left sneaks the odd victory through non conventional means. Meanwhile the right and centre flourish by convincing voters....The_Apocalypse said:
In your post you said 'real opposition', not 'persuading Rust Belt voters'. Those two things are not necessarily the same for a start.Mortimer said:
Look at it this way. Calm, measured opposition gains ideological traction, fundraising and pan-national support.
Marching on the coast doesn't convince the flyover states of the validity of liberal arguments.
You're a soccer mom in Iowa - say - and voted for Trump despite some reservations. Marching makes the opposition look far too liberal to attract voters next time around.
Secondly, Donald Trump was hardly 'calm, measured' during his campaign or even now - and he still won.
Furthermore, the Women's March was (generally) calm and measured. It was a peaceful protest. Many die-hard Conservatives won't see protest as peaceful and calm because it is a method of opposition that is generally disliked by them. But the Left have employed methods of protest before on issues that they care about - and have won.
Moreover, a 'Conservative' issue is not necessarily an issue which decides elections. It is likely to be issues such as the economy, healthcare, and immigration which will be significant in determining whether Rust Belt voters swing the Democrats way, as opposed to abortion.0 -
Fundamentally Foster's position is weaker than Fillon because she is dependant upon the support of her colleagues.
When you're running for a presidency, as Trump did then you can to a certain extent go it alone.0 -
Trump won the States, and thereby the Electoral College.ydoethur said:
Bad example, Mortimer. Trump lost the vote, and won by campaigning unconventionally in states his opponent was too stupid to think were vulnerable.Mortimer said:
The left sneaks the odd victory through non conventional means. Meanwhile the right and centre flourish by convincing voters....The_Apocalypse said:
In your post you said 'real opposition', not 'persuading Rust Belt voters'. Those two things are not necessarily the same for a start.Mortimer said:
Look at it this way. Calm, measured opposition gains ideological traction, fundraising and pan-national support.
Marching on the coast doesn't convince the flyover states of the validity of liberal arguments.
You're a soccer mom in Iowa - say - and voted for Trump despite some reservations. Marching makes the opposition look far too liberal to attract voters next time around.
Secondly, Donald Trump was hardly 'calm, measured' during his campaign or even now - and he still won.
Furthermore, the Women's March was (generally) calm and measured. It was a peaceful protest. Many die-hard Conservatives won't see protest as peaceful and calm because it is a method of opposition that is generally disliked by them. But the Left have employed methods of protest before on issues that they care about - and have won.
Moreover, a 'Conservative' issue is not necessarily an issue which decides elections. It is likely to be issues such as the economy, healthcare, and immigration which will be significant in determining whether Rust Belt voters swing the Democrats way, as opposed to abortion.0 -
She should have stepped aside when the scandal broke. She should step down now, because she made the election a referendum on her, and see how it turned out.Pulpstar said:Fundamentally Foster's position is weaker than Fillon because she is dependant upon the support of her colleagues.
When you're running for a presidency, as Trump did then you can to a certain extent go it alone.0 -
Jackie Pearcey selected as the Lib Dem candidate in Gorton. She was the councillor for Gorton North for over 20 years and should have a reasonable personal vote.0
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Does anyone in Ireland know if €9bn is 1% of the economy or 50%?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
So you're happy to be disloyal to Leaders you don't agree with.Mortimer said:
But think we should support our current leader even if we personally don't think she's doing or is capable of doing a good job?0 -
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Are there still such people as compositors?Ishmael_Z said:
Lazy compositors? It is presumably much harder work to keep footnotes in the right place than endnotes as a work is revised; or rather it was until the advent of LaTex which does it all for you.Morris_Dancer said:As an aside, endnotes in books, rather than footnotes, are the work of Satan. Who the hell (excepting Beelzebub) thinks that it's better to have to consult the back of the book rather than have a footnote?
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JG Ballard[3] once wrote a collection of short stories[6] which included a story[1] in which every word was footnoted[4] and another story[2] which consisted only of an index.[5]Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Rentool, when reading it, I do shove the bookmark in the back, but it's still tedious.
Mr. Z, perhaps. My annoyance is exacerbated by the footnotes in the introduction.
Mr. Thompson, indeed, but a glossary is more akin to an appendix.
Edited extra bit: Mr. Doethur, I was unaware of that. Cheers for the info.
[1] "Notes Towards a Mental Breakdown" see http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/elab/hfl0093.html and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Fever
[2] "The Index" see http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/elab/hfl0093.html and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Fever
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._G._Ballard
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Note_(typography)
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_(publishing)
[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Fever , but see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atrocity_Exhibition0 -
The one thing that unites the remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails.
The problem for them is that 2 years down the line prospective trade deals with the US, Aus, NZ, Canada, South Korea, the Middle East, even China, will be well on the way and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow.
Report today that many inside the EU have real concerns that individual EU countries will open Offices in the UK to benefit from these trade deals.
It is not all one way traffic0 -
This petition has got to 125k in three days. I'm sure our residential financial experts will be able to explain why it can't happen:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/1865650 -
Please, Please, Please, Mr Trump - give Tony a job. That would just be too hilarious for words.Scott_P said:0 -
That's a fair few footnotesviewcode said:
JG Ballard[3] once wrote a collection of short stories[6] which included a story[1] in which every word was footnoted[4] and another story[2] which consisted only of an index.[5]Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Rentool, when reading it, I do shove the bookmark in the back, but it's still tedious.
Mr. Z, perhaps. My annoyance is exacerbated by the footnotes in the introduction.
Mr. Thompson, indeed, but a glossary is more akin to an appendix.
Edited extra bit: Mr. Doethur, I was unaware of that. Cheers for the info.
[1] "Notes Towards a Mental Breakdown" see http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/elab/hfl0093.html and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Fever
[2] "The Index" see http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/elab/hfl0093.html and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Fever
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._G._Ballard
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Note_(typography)
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_(publishing)
[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Fever , but see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atrocity_Exhibition
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Blair cosying up to the Donald must disappoint Remoaners clinging on to him as their last hope of thwarting Brexit. How appropriate.0
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Shameless. Completely and utterly shameless!Scott_P said:0 -
I'm happy to believe what you just said.Big_G_NorthWales said:...2 years down the line prospective trade deals...will be well on the way...
Unfortunately, what you just said needs examination.
"Prospective deals which are well on the way" are not the same as "deals which have been agreed, signed and in force".
As for your other statement ("and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow"), that's true as far as it goes (one crossborder jar of pickles counts as "still flowing") but the important part is whether it will be as easy or profitable as now.
The last figure I saw[1] for the "FTA+" (the putative name given to a trade deal between EU and UK post-Brexit) is 2022, possibly 2025. So that's a three-six year gap that has to be plugged. I figure this will be plugged with a temporary membership of EEA, but that's not in my gift.
[1] https://www.babinc.org/times-agree-60bn-bill-talk-trade-eu-tells-may/0 -
Because he supported remaining in the EU? In common with the majority of his MPs and a sizeable minority of Tory voters.Mortimer said:
Or because of gay marriage? I'm sure many activists still haven't forgiven him for that? Or did he not sing enough songs about single mothers at conference?
Anyone would have thought he wanted to make the party electable0 -
I'm disappointed that none of the footnotes had its own footnote...Sunil_Prasannan said:
That's a fair few footnotesviewcode said:
JG Ballard[3] once wrote a collection of short stories[6] which included a story[1] in which every word was footnoted[4] and another story[2] which consisted only of an index.[5]Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Rentool, when reading it, I do shove the bookmark in the back, but it's still tedious.
Mr. Z, perhaps. My annoyance is exacerbated by the footnotes in the introduction.
Mr. Thompson, indeed, but a glossary is more akin to an appendix.
Edited extra bit: Mr. Doethur, I was unaware of that. Cheers for the info.
[1] "Notes Towards a Mental Breakdown" see http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/elab/hfl0093.html and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Fever
[2] "The Index" see http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/elab/hfl0093.html and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Fever
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._G._Ballard
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Note_(typography)
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_(publishing)
[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Fever , but see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atrocity_Exhibition0 -
You're welcome[1][2]Sunil_Prasannan said:
That's a fair few footnotesviewcode said:
JG Ballard[3] once wrote a collection of short stories[6] which included a story[1] in which every word was footnoted[4] and another story[2] which consisted only of an index.[5]Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Rentool, when reading it, I do shove the bookmark in the back, but it's still tedious.
Mr. Z, perhaps. My annoyance is exacerbated by the footnotes in the introduction.
Mr. Thompson, indeed, but a glossary is more akin to an appendix.
Edited extra bit: Mr. Doethur, I was unaware of that. Cheers for the info.
[1] "Notes Towards a Mental Breakdown" see http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/elab/hfl0093.html and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Fever
[2] "The Index" see http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/elab/hfl0093.html and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Fever
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._G._Ballard
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Note_(typography)
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_(publishing)
[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Fever , but see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atrocity_Exhibition
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valediction
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursion [2]0 -
For starters because paying your rent on time isn't proof that you can afford a mortgage.ThreeQuidder said:This petition has got to 125k in three days. I'm sure our residential financial experts will be able to explain why it can't happen:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/186565
1) You might need be not paying other bills just to pay your rent
2) A wider credit check might identify recent/existing problems
3) You need to show you can afford the mortgage in the stress test situation.
On a practical level, is it just you paying the rent, is it a partner/housemates/the bank of mum and dad who are helping you out and you're taking all the credit.
Edit - What mortgage would you give someone who pays £700 per month on rent?0 -
I'm afraid the grammer alone doesn't pass muster on PB. "Met". Tsk tsk.ThreeQuidder said:This petition has got to 125k in three days. I'm sure our residential financial experts will be able to explain why it can't happen:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/186565
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Your, instead of you're.nunu said:
I'm afraid the grammer alone doesn't pass muster on PB. "Met". Tsk tsk.ThreeQuidder said:This petition has got to 125k in three days. I'm sure our residential financial experts will be able to explain why it can't happen:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/1865650 -
Why would remainers want Brexit to fail? I voted Remain and think Brexit is a bad idea, but I live in the UK, have children and friends who live in the UK and am one of the owners of a company that is based in the UK. How does Brexit failing help my interests?Big_G_NorthWales said:The one thing that unites the remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails.
The problem for them is that 2 years down the line prospective trade deals with the US, Aus, NZ, Canada, South Korea, the Middle East, even China, will be well on the way and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow.
Report today that many inside the EU have real concerns that individual EU countries will open Offices in the UK to benefit from these trade deals.
It is not all one way traffic
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TheScreamingEagles said:
For starters because paying your rent on time isn't proof that you can afford a mortgage.ThreeQuidder said:This petition has got to 125k in three days. I'm sure our residential financial experts will be able to explain why it can't happen:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/186565
1) You might need be not paying other bills just to pay your rent
2) A wider credit check might identify recent/existing problems
3) You need to show you can afford the mortgage in the stress test situation.
On a practical level, is it just you paying the rent, is it a partner/housemates/the bank of mum and dad who are helping you out and you're taking all the credit.
Edit - What mortgage would you give someone who pays £700 per month on rent?
Disagree.
If someone can meet rental payments for a decent length of time, then they can meet equivalent mortgage repayments.
The rest is froth.
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'Since living on my own' - surely 'whilst living on my own'?TheScreamingEagles said:
Your, instead of you're.nunu said:
I'm afraid the grammer alone doesn't pass muster on PB. "Met". Tsk tsk.ThreeQuidder said:This petition has got to 125k in three days. I'm sure our residential financial experts will be able to explain why it can't happen:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/1865650 -
Michael Gove and other Tory Brexit campaigners on Sunday called on Theresa May to unilaterally guarantee the rights of 3.2 million EU citizens to remain in the UK, as they back a parliamentary report that brands the government policy as “unacceptable”.
Gove is one of several pro-Brexit Tories on the all-party select committee on exiting the EU who say that May’s approach is causing great “anxiety” and “uncertainty” to people who work hard in the UK, pay their taxes and deserve immediate reassurance about their futures.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/04/brexit-campaigners-theresa-may-guarantee-eu-citizens-rights?CMP=twt_gu0 -
It helps nobody but there are posters on here who want it to fail so that we can be kept de facto in the EUSouthamObserver said:
Why would remainers want Brexit to fail? I voted Remain and think Brexit is a bad idea, but I live in the UK, have children and friends who live in the UK and am one of the owners of a company that is based in the UK. How does Brexit failing help my interests?Big_G_NorthWales said:The one thing that unites the remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails.
The problem for them is that 2 years down the line prospective trade deals with the US, Aus, NZ, Canada, South Korea, the Middle East, even China, will be well on the way and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow.
Report today that many inside the EU have real concerns that individual EU countries will open Offices in the UK to benefit from these trade deals.
It is not all one way traffic0 -
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https://twitter.com/brianspanner1/status/746488316510482433TheScreamingEagles said:Gove is one of several pro-Brexit Tories on the all-party select committee on exiting the EU who say that May’s approach is causing great “anxiety” and “uncertainty”
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But they will not vote in favour of the amendmentTheScreamingEagles said:Michael Gove and other Tory Brexit campaigners on Sunday called on Theresa May to unilaterally guarantee the rights of 3.2 million EU citizens to remain in the UK, as they back a parliamentary report that brands the government policy as “unacceptable”.
Gove is one of several pro-Brexit Tories on the all-party select committee on exiting the EU who say that May’s approach is causing great “anxiety” and “uncertainty” to people who work hard in the UK, pay their taxes and deserve immediate reassurance about their futures.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/04/brexit-campaigners-theresa-may-guarantee-eu-citizens-rights?CMP=twt_gu0 -
Peil has been the most generous to the PVV. That being said, the PVV has tended to outperform its poll scores, so using the Peil figures makes sense.TheWhiteRabbit said:Dutch poll:
Peil PVV/WIlders 25 leads VVD/Rutte 24
The election is 11 days.
My forecast at the moment is PVV 24, VVD 22 (we shall see!) - the 2.3 on the VVD winning is fair.0 -
Willing buyer, willing seller. A bank should be allowed to have its own criteria for lending money.ThreeQuidder said:This petition has got to 125k in three days. I'm sure our residential financial experts will be able to explain why it can't happen:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/1865650 -
So long as they're not getting into debt to be able to meet the rental payments, which a credit check would reveal.MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:
For starters because paying your rent on time isn't proof that you can afford a mortgage.ThreeQuidder said:This petition has got to 125k in three days. I'm sure our residential financial experts will be able to explain why it can't happen:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/186565
1) You might need be not paying other bills just to pay your rent
2) A wider credit check might identify recent/existing problems
3) You need to show you can afford the mortgage in the stress test situation.
On a practical level, is it just you paying the rent, is it a partner/housemates/the bank of mum and dad who are helping you out and you're taking all the credit.
Edit - What mortgage would you give someone who pays £700 per month on rent?
Disagree.
If someone can meet rental payments for a decent length of time, then they can meet equivalent mortgage repayments.
The rest is froth.0 -
Talk about an over generalisation ."The one thing that unites remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails " I wish you could be more nuanced.Big_G_NorthWales said:The one thing that unites the remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails.
The problem for them is that 2 years down the line prospective trade deals with the US, Aus, NZ, Canada, South Korea, the Middle East, even China, will be well on the way and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow.
Report today that many inside the EU have real concerns that individual EU countries will open Offices in the UK to benefit from these trade deals.
It is not all one way traffic0 -
Apparently mortgage payments can vary according to interest rates.MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:
For starters because paying your rent on time isn't proof that you can afford a mortgage.ThreeQuidder said:This petition has got to 125k in three days. I'm sure our residential financial experts will be able to explain why it can't happen:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/186565
1) You might need be not paying other bills just to pay your rent
2) A wider credit check might identify recent/existing problems
3) You need to show you can afford the mortgage in the stress test situation.
On a practical level, is it just you paying the rent, is it a partner/housemates/the bank of mum and dad who are helping you out and you're taking all the credit.
Edit - What mortgage would you give someone who pays £700 per month on rent?
Disagree.
If someone can meet rental payments for a decent length of time, then they can meet equivalent mortgage repayments.
The rest is froth.0 -
Remind me what happened the last time we did that.rcs1000 said:
Willing buyer, willing seller. A bank should be allowed to have its own criteria for lending money.ThreeQuidder said:This petition has got to 125k in three days. I'm sure our residential financial experts will be able to explain why it can't happen:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/1865650 -
So what level would you have for the stress test?MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:
For starters because paying your rent on time isn't proof that you can afford a mortgage.ThreeQuidder said:This petition has got to 125k in three days. I'm sure our residential financial experts will be able to explain why it can't happen:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/186565
1) You might need be not paying other bills just to pay your rent
2) A wider credit check might identify recent/existing problems
3) You need to show you can afford the mortgage in the stress test situation.
On a practical level, is it just you paying the rent, is it a partner/housemates/the bank of mum and dad who are helping you out and you're taking all the credit.
Edit - What mortgage would you give someone who pays £700 per month on rent?
Disagree.
If someone can meet rental payments for a decent length of time, then they can meet equivalent mortgage repayments.
The rest is froth.
Also, you've not answered my question, what mortgage would you give to someone who pays a rent of £700 pcm despite not knowing if were solely paying that rent or not?0 -
Seconded. For one, even many remainers think we can make a success of things, if not as big a success as if we had remained. Let us not forget that Theresa May is on the record as a remainer, and thus by definition thinks that the best option for the UK would be to stay in the EU, but for democratic reasons this is no longer possible. But clearly by her own stated affiliation the best deal she could possibly get for us would be less good than remaining.Yorkcity said:
Talk about an over generalisation ."The one thing that unites remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails " I wish you could be more nuanced.Big_G_NorthWales said:The one thing that unites the remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails.
The problem for them is that 2 years down the line prospective trade deals with the US, Aus, NZ, Canada, South Korea, the Middle East, even China, will be well on the way and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow.
Report today that many inside the EU have real concerns that individual EU countries will open Offices in the UK to benefit from these trade deals.
It is not all one way traffic
I think perhaps he meant the subset of remainers who could be classified as remoaners, but even then most would not hope Brexit fails. Some clearly do hope that, but they are of an equivalent of those leavers (and converted remainers) who react hostilely to anything less than the suggestion everything will work out superbly and easily in every detail.0 -
True I was in shock when my neighbour told me the interest rate had just gone up 5% back in 1992.For a few hours many at work were considering how they could now meet the payments.rcs1000 said:
Apparently mortgage payments can vary according to interest rates.MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:
For starters because paying your rent on time isn't proof that you can afford a mortgage.ThreeQuidder said:This petition has got to 125k in three days. I'm sure our residential financial experts will be able to explain why it can't happen:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/186565
1) You might need be not paying other bills just to pay your rent
2) A wider credit check might identify recent/existing problems
3) You need to show you can afford the mortgage in the stress test situation.
On a practical level, is it just you paying the rent, is it a partner/housemates/the bank of mum and dad who are helping you out and you're taking all the credit.
Edit - What mortgage would you give someone who pays £700 per month on rent?
Disagree.
If someone can meet rental payments for a decent length of time, then they can meet equivalent mortgage repayments.
The rest is froth.0 -
Making sweeping generalisations based on posts made by a few people on PB seems a touch simplistic to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It helps nobody but there are posters on here who want it to fail so that we can be kept de facto in the EUSouthamObserver said:
Why would remainers want Brexit to fail? I voted Remain and think Brexit is a bad idea, but I live in the UK, have children and friends who live in the UK and am one of the owners of a company that is based in the UK. How does Brexit failing help my interests?Big_G_NorthWales said:The one thing that unites the remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails.
The problem for them is that 2 years down the line prospective trade deals with the US, Aus, NZ, Canada, South Korea, the Middle East, even China, will be well on the way and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow.
Report today that many inside the EU have real concerns that individual EU countries will open Offices in the UK to benefit from these trade deals.
It is not all one way traffic
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rcs1000 said:
Apparently mortgage payments can vary according to interest rates.MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:
For starters because paying your rent on time isn't proof that you can afford a mortgage.ThreeQuidder said:This petition has got to 125k in three days. I'm sure our residential financial experts will be able to explain why it can't happen:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/186565
1) You might need be not paying other bills just to pay your rent
2) A wider credit check might identify recent/existing problems
3) You need to show you can afford the mortgage in the stress test situation.
On a practical level, is it just you paying the rent, is it a partner/housemates/the bank of mum and dad who are helping you out and you're taking all the credit.
Edit - What mortgage would you give someone who pays £700 per month on rent?
Disagree.
If someone can meet rental payments for a decent length of time, then they can meet equivalent mortgage repayments.
The rest is froth.
That applies to anyone, no matter the criteria for determining if they can meet repayments.
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So the Lords weren't posturing out-of-touch fuddy-duddies after all, but had identified a concern shared by the highest echelons of the Brexit establishment. Do we still intend to abolish it?TheScreamingEagles said:Michael Gove and other Tory Brexit campaigners on Sunday called on Theresa May to unilaterally guarantee the rights of 3.2 million EU citizens to remain in the UK, as they back a parliamentary report that brands the government policy as “unacceptable”.
Gove is one of several pro-Brexit Tories on the all-party select committee on exiting the EU who say that May’s approach is causing great “anxiety” and “uncertainty” to people who work hard in the UK, pay their taxes and deserve immediate reassurance about their futures.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/04/brexit-campaigners-theresa-may-guarantee-eu-citizens-rights?CMP=twt_gu0 -
Are there further polls should the cost be more or less? I'm a little surprised there would be so much resistance against unification at the cost of a mere 9bn per annum, but is that also just resistance at the idea generally, or would it rise or fall depending on the cost?Mortimer said:
Not an overwhelming embrace of Norn Iron by the Republic, then....TheScreamingEagles said:
Also, if NI had a referendum on unification, would ROI have to have one too to accept it? I'd presume in such a scenario despite misgivings from some ROI citizens would approve, as that would be quite the embarrassing response to reject such a request!0 -
I agree with your second paragraph and should have been more specific.kle4 said:
Seconded. For one, even many remainers think we can make a success of things, if not as big a success as if we had remained. Let us not forget that Theresa May is on the record as a remainer, and thus by definition thinks that the best option for the UK would be to stay in the EU, but for democratic reasons this is no longer possible. But clearly by her own stated affiliation the best deal she could possibly get for us would be less good than remaining.Yorkcity said:
Talk about an over generalisation ."The one thing that unites remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails " I wish you could be more nuanced.Big_G_NorthWales said:The one thing that unites the remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails.
The problem for them is that 2 years down the line prospective trade deals with the US, Aus, NZ, Canada, South Korea, the Middle East, even China, will be well on the way and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow.
Report today that many inside the EU have real concerns that individual EU countries will open Offices in the UK to benefit from these trade deals.
It is not all one way traffic
I think perhaps he meant the subset of remainers who could be classified as remoaners, but even then most would not hope Brexit fails. Some clearly do hope that, but they are of an equivalent of those leavers (and converted remainers) who react hostilely to anything less than the suggestion everything will work out superbly and easily in every detail.0 -
Well, no ones perfect.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I agree with your second paragraph and should have been more specific.kle4 said:
Seconded. For one, even many remainers think we can make a success of things, if not as big a success as if we had remained. Let us not forget that Theresa May is on the record as a remainer, and thus by definition thinks that the best option for the UK would be to stay in the EU, but for democratic reasons this is no longer possible. But clearly by her own stated affiliation the best deal she could possibly get for us would be less good than remaining.Yorkcity said:
Talk about an over generalisation ."The one thing that unites remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails " I wish you could be more nuanced.Big_G_NorthWales said:The one thing that unites the remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails.
The problem for them is that 2 years down the line prospective trade deals with the US, Aus, NZ, Canada, South Korea, the Middle East, even China, will be well on the way and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow.
Report today that many inside the EU have real concerns that individual EU countries will open Offices in the UK to benefit from these trade deals.
It is not all one way traffic
I think perhaps he meant the subset of remainers who could be classified as remoaners, but even then most would not hope Brexit fails. Some clearly do hope that, but they are of an equivalent of those leavers (and converted remainers) who react hostilely to anything less than the suggestion everything will work out superbly and easily in every detail.0 -
It depends what you mean by success. as far as I'm concernd it's already failed because of what it says about us as a country and what it denies to us and our children. So if you mean do Remainers want the economic resuts of leaving to be as bad as the cultural and social results already are this one really doesn't care less. The damage is done.SouthamObserver said:
Why would remainers want Brexit to fail? I voted Remain and think Brexit is a bad idea, but I live in the UK, have children and friends who live in the UK and am one of the owners of a company that is based in the UK. How does Brexit failing help my interests?Big_G_NorthWales said:The one thing that unites the remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails.
The problem for them is that 2 years down the line prospective trade deals with the US, Aus, NZ, Canada, South Korea, the Middle East, even China, will be well on the way and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow.
Report today that many inside the EU have real concerns that individual EU countries will open Offices in the UK to benefit from these trade deals.
It is not all one way traffic0 -
I am always grateful when I am held to account and allowed the opportunity to clarify my thoughts. It is that which makes this forum so educational and interestingkle4 said:
Well, no ones perfect.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I agree with your second paragraph and should have been more specific.kle4 said:
Seconded. For one, even many remainers think we can make a success of things, if not as big a success as if we had remained. Let us not forget that Theresa May is on the record as a remainer, and thus by definition thinks that the best option for the UK would be to stay in the EU, but for democratic reasons this is no longer possible. But clearly by her own stated affiliation the best deal she could possibly get for us would be less good than remaining.Yorkcity said:
Talk about an over generalisation ."The one thing that unites remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails " I wish you could be more nuanced.Big_G_NorthWales said:The one thing that unites the remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails.
The problem for them is that 2 years down the line prospective trade deals with the US, Aus, NZ, Canada, South Korea, the Middle East, even China, will be well on the way and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow.
Report today that many inside the EU have real concerns that individual EU countries will open Offices in the UK to benefit from these trade deals.
It is not all one way traffic
I think perhaps he meant the subset of remainers who could be classified as remoaners, but even then most would not hope Brexit fails. Some clearly do hope that, but they are of an equivalent of those leavers (and converted remainers) who react hostilely to anything less than the suggestion everything will work out superbly and easily in every detail.0 -
Kle4 I read your posts a lot you are one of the most balanced and fairest posters on this site.kle4 said:
Seconded. For one, even many remainers think we can make a success of things, if not as big a success as if we had remained. Let us not forget that Theresa May is on the record as a remainer, and thus by definition thinks that the best option for the UK would be to stay in the EU, but for democratic reasons this is no longer possible. But clearly by her own stated affiliation the best deal she could possibly get for us would be less good than remaining.Yorkcity said:
Talk about an over generalisation ."The one thing that unites remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails " I wish you could be more nuanced.Big_G_NorthWales said:The one thing that unites the remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails.
The problem for them is that 2 years down the line prospective trade deals with the US, Aus, NZ, Canada, South Korea, the Middle East, even China, will be well on the way and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow.
Report today that many inside the EU have real concerns that individual EU countries will open Offices in the UK to benefit from these trade deals.
It is not all one way traffic
I think perhaps he meant the subset of remainers who could be classified as remoaners, but even then most would not hope Brexit fails. Some clearly do hope that, but they are of an equivalent of those leavers (and converted remainers) who react hostilely to anything less than the suggestion everything will work out superbly and easily in every detail.0 -
Roger - I really hope that in time to come your worst fears are not born out and that there will be a positive outcome for all. Neither of us can judge this at this stage or for years to come but I am optimistic that things will not turn out as bad as you believeRoger said:
It depends what you mean by success. as far as I'm concernd it's already failed because of what it says about us as a country and what it denies to us and our children. So if you mean do Remainers want the economic resuts of leaving to be as bad as the cultural and social results already are this one really doesn't care less. The damage is done.SouthamObserver said:
Why would remainers want Brexit to fail? I voted Remain and think Brexit is a bad idea, but I live in the UK, have children and friends who live in the UK and am one of the owners of a company that is based in the UK. How does Brexit failing help my interests?Big_G_NorthWales said:The one thing that unites the remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails.
The problem for them is that 2 years down the line prospective trade deals with the US, Aus, NZ, Canada, South Korea, the Middle East, even China, will be well on the way and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow.
Report today that many inside the EU have real concerns that individual EU countries will open Offices in the UK to benefit from these trade deals.
It is not all one way traffic0 -
That 9bn number could have been replaced by almost any other number and I'm sure the result would have been similar. But a poll that didn't include a number or mention the cost of reunification at all, well that's a different story...kle4 said:
Are there further polls should the cost be more or less? I'm a little surprised there would be so much resistance against unification at the cost of a mere 9bn per annum, but is that also just resistance at the idea generally, or would it rise or fall depending on the cost?Mortimer said:
Not an overwhelming embrace of Norn Iron by the Republic, then....TheScreamingEagles said:
Also, if NI had a referendum on unification, would ROI have to have one too to accept it? I'd presume in such a scenario despite misgivings from some ROI citizens would approve, as that would be quite the embarrassing response to reject such a request!
I'm never a fan of "Given this serious (dis)advantage, do you support this policy?" type questions.0 -
You wouldn't wish the harm on even those who voted remain to be mitigated as much as possible? Even if the situation culturally and socially is unsalvageable, that it must be a failure of some description, why would you have no view on whether it is possible for that harm to be as minimal as possible?Roger said:
It depends what you mean by success. as far as I'm concernd it's already failed because of what it says about us as a country and what it denies to us and our children. So if you mean do Remainers want the economic resuts of leaving to be as bad as the cultural and social results already are this one really doesn't care less. The damage is done.SouthamObserver said:
Why would remainers want Brexit to fail? I voted Remain and think Brexit is a bad idea, but I live in the UK, have children and friends who live in the UK and am one of the owners of a company that is based in the UK. How does Brexit failing help my interests?Big_G_NorthWales said:The one thing that unites the remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails.
The problem for them is that 2 years down the line prospective trade deals with the US, Aus, NZ, Canada, South Korea, the Middle East, even China, will be well on the way and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow.
Report today that many inside the EU have real concerns that individual EU countries will open Offices in the UK to benefit from these trade deals.
It is not all one way traffic
Given the government has had plenty of choice in how it goes about Brexit, as indeed the arguments in recent weeks have been about, there are clearly options, some of which will be worse than others even if you believe all are bad. Even if you don't think you have any requirement to pick the lesser of two evils, which is true, you really have no care about people who didn't choose this option and don't have the option of getting away from it suffering as little as can be managed? Serves them right for being poor I guess.
That's like people hoping for a government composed of their opponents to be a disaster for the people as the damage was done when they got elected, only a grander scale.
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It really is as ironic as a very, very ironic thing that we mainly hear that sort of thing from you in France where Le Pens are taken seriously by the electorate, from tyson in Italy where greengrocers sell out of bananas on big football days and one ministerial politician can call another an orang-utan because she is black, and from antifrank in Hungary where Orban wants to shut up all asylum seekers in shipping containers (the 21st c answer to the cattle truck). You can't usually blame people for their government's actions, because they may not have voted for them and because everyone has to live somewhere, but voluntary immigres are another matter. The three of you are by your actions endorsing the stuff which goes on in your chosen countries, and in moaning about brexit you are straining at a thing and swallowing a whatever it is.Roger said:
It depends what you mean by success. as far as I'm concernd it's already failed because of what it says about us as a country and what it denies to us and our children. So if you mean do Remainers want the economic resuts of leaving to be as bad as the cultural and social results already are this one really doesn't care less. The damage is done.SouthamObserver said:
Why would remainers want Brexit to fail? I voted Remain and think Brexit is a bad idea, but I live in the UK, have children and friends who live in the UK and am one of the owners of a company that is based in the UK. How does Brexit failing help my interests?Big_G_NorthWales said:The one thing that unites the remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails.
The problem for them is that 2 years down the line prospective trade deals with the US, Aus, NZ, Canada, South Korea, the Middle East, even China, will be well on the way and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow.
Report today that many inside the EU have real concerns that individual EU countries will open Offices in the UK to benefit from these trade deals.
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If you are a wheel of time fan you might enjoy a parody of one of his glossaries.Philip_Thompson said:
Unless it's a glossary. Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time glossaries could be quite amusing in parts.Morris_Dancer said:As an aside, endnotes in books, rather than footnotes, are the work of Satan. Who the hell (excepting Beelzebub) thinks that it's better to have to consult the back of the book rather than have a footnote?
http://linuxmafia.com/waygate/DOD.html
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Love it.Plank said:
If you are a wheel of time fan you might enjoy a parody of one of his glossaries.Philip_Thompson said:
Unless it's a glossary. Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time glossaries could be quite amusing in parts.Morris_Dancer said:As an aside, endnotes in books, rather than footnotes, are the work of Satan. Who the hell (excepting Beelzebub) thinks that it's better to have to consult the back of the book rather than have a footnote?
http://linuxmafia.com/waygate/DOD.html
Children of the Light - Devout soldiers who bring out the worst in people, all for the common good.
You are very kind.Yorkcity said:
Kle4 I read your posts a lot you are one of the most balanced and fairest posters on this site.kle4 said:
Seconded. For one, even many remainers think we can make a success of things, if not as big a success as if we had remained. Let us not forget that Theresa May is on the record as a remainer, and thus by definition thinks that the best option for the UK would be to stay in the EU, but for democratic reasons this is no longer possible. But clearly by her own stated affiliation the best deal she could possibly get for us would be less good than remaining.Yorkcity said:
Talk about an over generalisation ."The one thing that unites remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails " I wish you could be more nuanced.Big_G_NorthWales said:The one thing that unites the remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails.
The problem for them is that 2 years down the line prospective trade deals with the US, Aus, NZ, Canada, South Korea, the Middle East, even China, will be well on the way and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow.
Report today that many inside the EU have real concerns that individual EU countries will open Offices in the UK to benefit from these trade deals.
It is not all one way traffic
I think perhaps he meant the subset of remainers who could be classified as remoaners, but even then most would not hope Brexit fails. Some clearly do hope that, but they are of an equivalent of those leavers (and converted remainers) who react hostilely to anything less than the suggestion everything will work out superbly and easily in every detail.
At times I fear it can verge into seeking to avoid committing to a side - before the referendum a part of me kind of hoped my vote would be on the losing side, so I could avoid any sense of responsibility for the outcome, and I stood there for about 45 seconds considering if I should put my vote where my mouth had been - but at least it angers up the blood less.
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It's a loaded question.MyBurningEars said:
That 9bn number could have been replaced by almost any other number and I'm sure the result would have been similar. But a poll that didn't include a number or mention the cost of reunification at all, well that's a different story...kle4 said:
Are there further polls should the cost be more or less? I'm a little surprised there would be so much resistance against unification at the cost of a mere 9bn per annum, but is that also just resistance at the idea generally, or would it rise or fall depending on the cost?Mortimer said:
Not an overwhelming embrace of Norn Iron by the Republic, then....TheScreamingEagles said:
Also, if NI had a referendum on unification, would ROI have to have one too to accept it? I'd presume in such a scenario despite misgivings from some ROI citizens would approve, as that would be quite the embarrassing response to reject such a request!
I'm never a fan of "Given this serious (dis)advantage, do you support this policy?" type questions.0 -
I hope for a positive outcome too. There's no point in being sentimental about our attachment to a union that has outlived its useful purpose. The dissolution of the UK should create a more stable basis for positive political development.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Roger - I really hope that in time to come your worst fears are not born out and that there will be a positive outcome for all. Neither of us can judge this at this stage or for years to come but I am optimistic that things will not turn out as bad as you believeRoger said:
It depends what you mean by success. as far as I'm concernd it's already failed because of what it says about us as a country and what it denies to us and our children. So if you mean do Remainers want the economic resuts of leaving to be as bad as the cultural and social results already are this one really doesn't care less. The damage is done.SouthamObserver said:
Why would remainers want Brexit to fail? I voted Remain and think Brexit is a bad idea, but I live in the UK, have children and friends who live in the UK and am one of the owners of a company that is based in the UK. How does Brexit failing help my interests?Big_G_NorthWales said:The one thing that unites the remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails.
The problem for them is that 2 years down the line prospective trade deals with the US, Aus, NZ, Canada, South Korea, the Middle East, even China, will be well on the way and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow.
Report today that many inside the EU have real concerns that individual EU countries will open Offices in the UK to benefit from these trade deals.
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I'm guessing your tongue is firmly in your cheek? it's not always easy to tell on herewilliamglenn said:
I hope for a positive outcome too. There's no point in being sentimental about our attachment to a union that has outlived its useful purpose. The dissolution of the UK should create a more stable basis for positive political development.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Roger - I really hope that in time to come your worst fears are not born out and that there will be a positive outcome for all. Neither of us can judge this at this stage or for years to come but I am optimistic that things will not turn out as bad as you believeRoger said:
It depends what you mean by success. as far as I'm concernd it's already failed because of what it says about us as a country and what it denies to us and our children. So if you mean do Remainers want the economic resuts of leaving to be as bad as the cultural and social results already are this one really doesn't care less. The damage is done.SouthamObserver said:
Why would remainers want Brexit to fail? I voted Remain and think Brexit is a bad idea, but I live in the UK, have children and friends who live in the UK and am one of the owners of a company that is based in the UK. How does Brexit failing help my interests?Big_G_NorthWales said:The one thing that unites the remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails.
The problem for them is that 2 years down the line prospective trade deals with the US, Aus, NZ, Canada, South Korea, the Middle East, even China, will be well on the way and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow.
Report today that many inside the EU have real concerns that individual EU countries will open Offices in the UK to benefit from these trade deals.
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The Daily Mail story about Tony Blair and The Donald can't be true...surely....chuckles...0
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I remember playing an old computer text-adventure with footnotes that helped expand the story with some extra background narrative.ThreeQuidder said:
I'm disappointed that none of the footnotes had its own footnote...Sunil_Prasannan said:
That's a fair few footnotesviewcode said:
JG Ballard[3] once wrote a collection of short stories[6] which included a story[1] in which every word was footnoted[4] and another story[2] which consisted only of an index.[5]Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Rentool, when reading it, I do shove the bookmark in the back, but it's still tedious.
Mr. Z, perhaps. My annoyance is exacerbated by the footnotes in the introduction.
Mr. Thompson, indeed, but a glossary is more akin to an appendix.
Edited extra bit: Mr. Doethur, I was unaware of that. Cheers for the info.
[1] "Notes Towards a Mental Breakdown" see http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/elab/hfl0093.html and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Fever
[2] "The Index" see http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/elab/hfl0093.html and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Fever
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._G._Ballard
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Note_(typography)
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_(publishing)
[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Fever , but see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atrocity_Exhibition
It didn't take a seasoned hacker to work out that you could increment the Footnote number to read them all one by one without needing to find the link in the original text.
When I'd got most of the way through by doing this I came across one which was obviously not linked from the original game. It gave out a bollocking for cheating and looking through the Footnotes in precisely the way I described
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Yes it is. Poe's law makes self-parody very difficult to pull off.Roger said:
I'm guessing your tongue is firmly in your cheek? it's not always easy to tell on herewilliamglenn said:
I hope for a positive outcome too. There's no point in being sentimental about our attachment to a union that has outlived its useful purpose. The dissolution of the UK should create a more stable basis for positive political development.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Roger - I really hope that in time to come your worst fears are not born out and that there will be a positive outcome for all. Neither of us can judge this at this stage or for years to come but I am optimistic that things will not turn out as bad as you believeRoger said:
It depends what you mean by success. as far as I'm concernd it's already failed because of what it says about us as a country and what it denies to us and our children. So if you mean do Remainers want the economic resuts of leaving to be as bad as the cultural and social results already are this one really doesn't care less. The damage is done.SouthamObserver said:
Why would remainers want Brexit to fail? I voted Remain and think Brexit is a bad idea, but I live in the UK, have children and friends who live in the UK and am one of the owners of a company that is based in the UK. How does Brexit failing help my interests?Big_G_NorthWales said:The one thing that unites the remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails.
The problem for them is that 2 years down the line prospective trade deals with the US, Aus, NZ, Canada, South Korea, the Middle East, even China, will be well on the way and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow.
Report today that many inside the EU have real concerns that individual EU countries will open Offices in the UK to benefit from these trade deals.
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Making sweeping generalisations is always a bad idea.SouthamObserver said:
Making sweeping generalisations based on posts made by a few people on PB seems a touch simplistic to me.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It helps nobody but there are posters on here who want it to fail so that we can be kept de facto in the EUSouthamObserver said:
Why would remainers want Brexit to fail? I voted Remain and think Brexit is a bad idea, but I live in the UK, have children and friends who live in the UK and am one of the owners of a company that is based in the UK. How does Brexit failing help my interests?Big_G_NorthWales said:The one thing that unites the remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails.
The problem for them is that 2 years down the line prospective trade deals with the US, Aus, NZ, Canada, South Korea, the Middle East, even China, will be well on the way and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow.
Report today that many inside the EU have real concerns that individual EU countries will open Offices in the UK to benefit from these trade deals.
It is not all one way traffic
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It is said that the worst hell possible is the one we create in our own minds. Roger has obviously created a hell in his own imagination and even though it bears no relation to reality he believes it completely.Roger said:
It depends what you mean by success. as far as I'm concernd it's already failed because of what it says about us as a country and what it denies to us and our children. So if you mean do Remainers want the economic resuts of leaving to be as bad as the cultural and social results already are this one really doesn't care less. The damage is done.SouthamObserver said:
Why would remainers want Brexit to fail? I voted Remain and think Brexit is a bad idea, but I live in the UK, have children and friends who live in the UK and am one of the owners of a company that is based in the UK. How does Brexit failing help my interests?Big_G_NorthWales said:The one thing that unites the remainers is their total belief and hope that Brexit fails.
The problem for them is that 2 years down the line prospective trade deals with the US, Aus, NZ, Canada, South Korea, the Middle East, even China, will be well on the way and at the same time our exports to the EU will still flow.
Report today that many inside the EU have real concerns that individual EU countries will open Offices in the UK to benefit from these trade deals.
It is not all one way traffic
If we should have any reaction to.him it should be one of pity. He is a victim.of his own bigotry.0 -
Some interesting facts regarding Le Pen's possible vulnerability to legal problems.
1) She retains immunity in respect of the allegation of dodgy EU expense-claiming. And it is this allegation that investigating magistrates have asked to interview her about next Friday, a request she has said she will not comply with until after the election. So it doesn't look as though she can be jailed for contempt for not meeting them.
2) The recent EU parliamentary vote to remove her immunity in respect of the alleged crime of tweeting violent images was in response to a request by the French justice minister in Oct 2016, but proximally it occurred after the report by Laura Ferrara of Italy’s 5Star Movement.
Ferrara is the vice-chair of the EU Parliament's Committee on legal affairs.
Out of interest, has that committee ever discussed the Scientologists?
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Is it surprising? Blair has also espoused the Le Pen-Wilders cause of the reform of the EU.FrancisUrquhart said:The Daily Mail story about Tony Blair and The Donald can't be true...surely....chuckles...
It doesn't sound very "businessmanlike" of Trump to re-employ someone in a role - "Middle East peace envoy" - in which he was such a total failure.0 -
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Still a bunch of unelected has-beens and electoral failures!Stark_Dawning said:
So the Lords weren't posturing out-of-touch fuddy-duddies after all, but had identified a concern shared by the highest echelons of the Brexit establishment. Do we still intend to abolish it?TheScreamingEagles said:Michael Gove and other Tory Brexit campaigners on Sunday called on Theresa May to unilaterally guarantee the rights of 3.2 million EU citizens to remain in the UK, as they back a parliamentary report that brands the government policy as “unacceptable”.
Gove is one of several pro-Brexit Tories on the all-party select committee on exiting the EU who say that May’s approach is causing great “anxiety” and “uncertainty” to people who work hard in the UK, pay their taxes and deserve immediate reassurance about their futures.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/04/brexit-campaigners-theresa-may-guarantee-eu-citizens-rights?CMP=twt_gu
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FPT:
Done the second two - while both are fun, the California Zephyr has the edge in scenery - this is what The Man in Seat 61 has to say: http://www.seat61.com/california-zephyr.htmTim_B said:A quick vacation question for any rail buffs out there - in addition to planning a trip to the UK next year, this year I'm pondering something I haven't done since I was a teenager - ride the train.
There are essentially 2 - possibly 3 - options. They're all about 2300-2500 miles
1. The Canadian - Toronto to Vancouver
2. The California Zephyr - Chicago to San Francisco.
3. The Texas Eagle - Chicago to Texas to Los Angeles0 -
Just locker room banter....isam said:0 -
Thank you! I just popped in to look and found your comment!CarlottaVance said:FPT:
Done the second two - while both are fun, the California Zephyr has the edge in scenery - this is what The Man in Seat 61 has to say: http://www.seat61.com/california-zephyr.htmTim_B said:A quick vacation question for any rail buffs out there - in addition to planning a trip to the UK next year, this year I'm pondering something I haven't done since I was a teenager - ride the train.
There are essentially 2 - possibly 3 - options. They're all about 2300-2500 miles
1. The Canadian - Toronto to Vancouver
2. The California Zephyr - Chicago to San Francisco.
3. The Texas Eagle - Chicago to Texas to Los Angeles0 -
SLAB PPB:
https://twitter.com/scottishlabour/status/837364077265584130
For a party that spent years demonising Westminster when the Tories were in office all this talk of 'division' is a bit rich - but its a well made ad - with a very obvious (but un-named) target.0 -
Joyous & Civic - not anti-English at all! No Sireeee!
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Kezia Dugdale appointed Alan Roden (former political editor of the Daily Mail in Scotland) as Scottish Labour communications director recently. And although this has definitely contributed to an improvement in their media messaging, I suspect that it might prove too little, too late with regards the current Leadership. I noticed that the 'Federal UK' approach that Dugdale was allowed to promote for too long has now biten the dust...CarlottaVance said:SLAB PPB:
https://twitter.com/scottishlabour/status/837364077265584130
For a party that spent years demonising Westminster when the Tories were in office all this talk of 'division' is a bit rich - but its a well made ad - with a very obvious (but un-named) target.0 -
And yet so many of those SNP MSPs and MPs will quickly block those who ask awkward questions or even forward the mildest critism no matter how politely.CarlottaVance said:Joyous & Civic - not anti-English at all! No Sireeee!
https://twitter.com/JournoStephen/status/838173436857970688
This makes interesting reading....
Greenock Telegraph - Leaked email reveals Inverclyde SNP group leader's move to change rule0 -
Quite amusing!Plank said:
If you are a wheel of time fan you might enjoy a parody of one of his glossaries.Philip_Thompson said:
Unless it's a glossary. Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time glossaries could be quite amusing in parts.Morris_Dancer said:As an aside, endnotes in books, rather than footnotes, are the work of Satan. Who the hell (excepting Beelzebub) thinks that it's better to have to consult the back of the book rather than have a footnote?
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Ifop-Fiducial's latest running poll puts Le Pen at her highest score ever. Yet her price at Betfair is falling.
As for those who are buying Juppé at 5, either they have reliable inside information on how Fillon will withdraw long enough before 17 March for Juppé to manage to increase his number of nominees from 1 to 500, or they are throwing their money away.0 -
Bottom line, what magnitude of political earthquake do the French really want to register on the global Richter scale this year?Cyan said:Ifop-Fiducial's latest running poll puts Le Pen at her highest score ever. Yet her price at Betfair is falling.
As for those who are buying Juppé at 5, either they have reliable inside information on how Fillon will withdraw long enough before 17 March for Juppé to manage to increase his number of nominees from 1 to 500, or they are throwing their money away.0 -
Her price is going out because Fillons problems means that, if he stays in the race, Le Pen is almost certain to face Macron in the final and he is about 22 points ahead of her in the head to heads.Cyan said:Ifop-Fiducial's latest running poll puts Le Pen at her highest score ever. Yet her price at Betfair is falling.
As for those who are buying Juppé at 5, either they have reliable inside information on how Fillon will withdraw long enough before 17 March for Juppé to manage to increase his number of nominees from 1 to 500, or they are throwing their money away.
If Juppe replaces Fillon, I would expect Le Pen's price to fall because he is more likely to reach the final two than Macron. If that happens, Le Pen would have a better chance against Juppe in the final round.
On the other hand, the hypothetical poll on friday that included Juppe shows Le Pen failing to reach the second round.0 -
On the Juppe situation, if he is going to withdraw, it is likely to happen within the next 48 hours or so. The LR political committee are convening on Monday, so there should be some firm news one way or another by then. I don't think someone of Juppe's stature would have any problem collecting the signatures if he was named as replacement sometime within the next few days.Cyan said:Ifop-Fiducial's latest running poll puts Le Pen at her highest score ever. Yet her price at Betfair is falling.
As for those who are buying Juppé at 5, either they have reliable inside information on how Fillon will withdraw long enough before 17 March for Juppé to manage to increase his number of nominees from 1 to 500, or they are throwing their money away.0 -
The HoC report on EU/UK residents:
https://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201617/cmselect/cmexeu/1071/1071.pdf
Looks like urgent and major overhaul of Home Office paperwork required - tho I don't agree on the unilateral recommendation - when that blows up in the government's face they'll be blamed for poor negotiation rather than poor strategy.0 -
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