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Give that girl an award though
My Mummy says you hate foreigners.0 -
Reds Under The Bed?
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Surely NI elections are a bigger political story than this ?0
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SF biggest number of seats certainly won't make May's life any easier over Brexit. Ha ha!0
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Yes. But I've been at the hospital most of the day and haven't been following itPulpstar said:Surely NI elections are a bigger political story than this ?
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Some people seem to be calling for the UUP to disband or merge with the DUP.Lucian_Fletcher said:We've lost our leader. Brilliant final move to say the buck stops here. With Morrow about to lose his seat. Foster will be under serious pressure.
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Ugh, I'm sick of this whining.Scott_P said:
As I said last week, the most frustrating thing about the Labour leadership is they don't even really seem to put in any effort. The Corbyn "relaunch" in January is a perfect example: he did one day of media interviews, got some bad press, and then he and his team all seemed to decide it wasn't worth even trying to make an effort since the media would always spin them badly, and Corbyn went back into hiding for weeks on end. The media are a bunch of right-wing bastards, true, but life is tough; you just get over it and make the best of a bad situation, not sit around feeling sorry for yourself and not even trying to make things better.0 -
It's potentially massive in my view. Amazed it doesn't have more traction.Pulpstar said:Surely NI elections are a bigger political story than this ?
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Sky reporting Westminster likely to take back control of NiMonksfield said:SF biggest number of seats certainly won't make May's life any easier over Brexit. Ha ha!
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The union of Ireland will come soon. Thanks to Brexit.
I wonder how the 18-24 year olds voted.0 -
And you think that's a good thing?Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sky reporting Westminster likely to take back control of NiMonksfield said:SF biggest number of seats certainly won't make May's life any easier over Brexit. Ha ha!
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Why should the UUP disband? We are not DUP people
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Arlene left the count refusing to speak to BBC0
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Yes as Ireland leaves the EU to join the new European EFTA trading group headed by UKsurbiton said:The union of Ireland will come soon. Thanks to Brexit.
I wonder how the 18-24 year olds voted.0 -
We'll have to change our name back to the Kingdom of Great Britain - that's if Scotland doesn't get there first. We could end up negotiating three divorce settlements at once.surbiton said:The union of Ireland will come soon. Thanks to Brexit.
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So, could the NI elections be a case of the polls underestimating the leftwing party?
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Best wishes Mike. I hope you're on the mend.MikeSmithson said:
Yes. But I've been at the hospital most of the day and haven't been following itPulpstar said:Surely NI elections are a bigger political story than this ?
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I think this will make Unionism rethink and try offer a positive vision. I hope so.0
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Nothing about Northern Ireland is simple - the best would be for the DUP and SF to work together as previously but that seems a lost cause. Arlene Foster should have resigned her position but where is integrity these daysMonksfield said:
And you think that's a good thing?Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sky reporting Westminster likely to take back control of NiMonksfield said:SF biggest number of seats certainly won't make May's life any easier over Brexit. Ha ha!
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I think one thing is how much can be changed by by a few hundred votes.Danny565 said:So, could the NI elections be a case of the polls underestimating the leftwing party?
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I think one thing is how much can be changed by by a few hundred votes.Danny565 said:So, could the NI elections be a case of the polls underestimating the leftwing party?
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Maybe Scotland and NI would be better off joining loosely with The south in a federation of the western seaboard.williamglenn said:
We'll have to change our name back to the Kingdom of Great Britain - that's if Scotland doesn't get there first. We could end up negotiating three divorce settlements at once.surbiton said:The union of Ireland will come soon. Thanks to Brexit.
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The SDLP seem to have done appallingly.
How have they collapsed so much among middle class Catholics ?
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It already is - it's called the UKMonksfield said:
Maybe Scotland and NI would be better off joining loosely with The south in a federation of the western seaboard.williamglenn said:
We'll have to change our name back to the Kingdom of Great Britain - that's if Scotland doesn't get there first. We could end up negotiating three divorce settlements at once.surbiton said:The union of Ireland will come soon. Thanks to Brexit.
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It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.0
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There's nothing federal about the UK, and it hasn't included the whole of Ireland for nearly a century.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It already is - it's called the UKMonksfield said:
Maybe Scotland and NI would be better off joining loosely with The south in a federation of the western seaboard.williamglenn said:
We'll have to change our name back to the Kingdom of Great Britain - that's if Scotland doesn't get there first. We could end up negotiating three divorce settlements at once.surbiton said:The union of Ireland will come soon. Thanks to Brexit.
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Whilst Remainers, like cats, dislike all but themselves?AlastairMeeks said:It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.
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Not for long, with a PM who seems to think she's Boadicea.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It already is - it's called the UKMonksfield said:
Maybe Scotland and NI would be better off joining loosely with The south in a federation of the western seaboard.williamglenn said:
We'll have to change our name back to the Kingdom of Great Britain - that's if Scotland doesn't get there first. We could end up negotiating three divorce settlements at once.surbiton said:The union of Ireland will come soon. Thanks to Brexit.
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Hope all is going well OGH.MikeSmithson said:
Yes. But I've been at the hospital most of the day and haven't been following itPulpstar said:Surely NI elections are a bigger political story than this ?
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Apologies if already posted
A note on Lucid Talk's final NI poll, carried out 24-26 Feb:
DUP 26.3% (result, 1st preferences: 28.1%)
SF 25.3% (27.9%)
UUP 13.9% (12.9%)
SDLP 12.2% (11.9%)
APNI 9.5% (9.1%)
Others 12.9% (10.2%)
Two or three points out on the two major parties, better on the next three.0 -
The media are so right wing they couldn't get enough of Labour in 1997 nor attack the Tories hard enough.Danny565 said:
Ugh, I'm sick of this whining.Scott_P said:
As I said last week, the most frustrating thing about the Labour leadership is they don't even really seem to put in any effort. The Corbyn "relaunch" in January is a perfect example: he did one day of media interviews, got some bad press, and then he and his team all seemed to decide it wasn't worth even trying to make an effort since the media would always spin them badly, and Corbyn went back into hiding for weeks on end. The media are a bunch of right-wing bastards, true, but life is tough; you just get over it and make the best of a bad situation, not sit around feeling sorry for yourself and not even trying to make things better.
The media love winners (and love cutting them down when they're not longer winners). Corbyn and.his cronies have never looked like winners.0 -
The trend to devolution has been happening since 1997.AlastairMeeks said:It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.
You can see the Leave vote as part of that trend in it being a vote against EverCloserUnion.
And there will be no shortage of English Conservatives not displeased by EverLooserUnion with Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Some will even be hoping that Scouseland can go the same way.0 -
That's because the Tories in 1997 looked as electable as Labour today.Philip_Thompson said:
The media are so right wing they couldn't get enough of Labour in 1997 nor attack the Tories hard enough.Danny565 said:
Ugh, I'm sick of this whining.Scott_P said:
As I said last week, the most frustrating thing about the Labour leadership is they don't even really seem to put in any effort. The Corbyn "relaunch" in January is a perfect example: he did one day of media interviews, got some bad press, and then he and his team all seemed to decide it wasn't worth even trying to make an effort since the media would always spin them badly, and Corbyn went back into hiding for weeks on end. The media are a bunch of right-wing bastards, true, but life is tough; you just get over it and make the best of a bad situation, not sit around feeling sorry for yourself and not even trying to make things better.
The media love winners (and love cutting them down when they're not longer winners). Corbyn and.his cronies have never looked like winners.0 -
I thought the big thing in the election was the energy subsidy scandal? Find it amazing Arlene Foster stayed in her position.AlastairMeeks said:It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.
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That would be a disaster. If Sinn Fein have won these elections then they deserve the chance to have their leader as First Minister.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sky reporting Westminster likely to take back control of NiMonksfield said:SF biggest number of seats certainly won't make May's life any easier over Brexit. Ha ha!
Shocking that all this could have been avoided had Arlene had any self respect and resigned. Now she almost certainly will have to anyway but not before taking out her cause and her colleagues first.0 -
The sticky conversation would be about London. Little English Conservatives (and the phrase is fair for those who are interested only in like-minded brethren) don't like London or its values. But boy, they like its money.another_richard said:
The trend to devolution has been happening since 1997.AlastairMeeks said:It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.
You can see the Leave vote as part of that trend in it being a vote against EverCloserUnion.
And there will be no shortage of English Conservatives not displeased by EverLooserUnion with Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Some will even be hoping that Scouseland can go the same way.0 -
Precisely. If Labour start to look electable (and the Tories less so) the media will move left faster than Usain Bolt.Monksfield said:
That's because the Tories in 1997 looked as electable as Labour today.Philip_Thompson said:
The media are so right wing they couldn't get enough of Labour in 1997 nor attack the Tories hard enough.Danny565 said:
Ugh, I'm sick of this whining.Scott_P said:
As I said last week, the most frustrating thing about the Labour leadership is they don't even really seem to put in any effort. The Corbyn "relaunch" in January is a perfect example: he did one day of media interviews, got some bad press, and then he and his team all seemed to decide it wasn't worth even trying to make an effort since the media would always spin them badly, and Corbyn went back into hiding for weeks on end. The media are a bunch of right-wing bastards, true, but life is tough; you just get over it and make the best of a bad situation, not sit around feeling sorry for yourself and not even trying to make things better.
The media love winners (and love cutting them down when they're not longer winners). Corbyn and.his cronies have never looked like winners.0 -
London quite likes our food, water, and our houses too.AlastairMeeks said:
The sticky conversation would be about London. Little English Conservatives (and the phrase is fair for those who are interested only in like-minded brethren) don't like London or its values. But boy, they like its money.another_richard said:
The trend to devolution has been happening since 1997.AlastairMeeks said:It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.
You can see the Leave vote as part of that trend in it being a vote against EverCloserUnion.
And there will be no shortage of English Conservatives not displeased by EverLooserUnion with Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Some will even be hoping that Scouseland can go the same way.0 -
United Ireland will indeed come soon, but thanks to demographics.surbiton said:The union of Ireland will come soon. Thanks to Brexit.
I wonder how the 18-24 year olds voted.
http://bigthink.com/strange-maps/619-is-ulster-doomed-scenarios-for-repartition
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Likely 29 DUP, now that the count is done in Lagan Valley.
Astonishingly, SDLP have just clung on to their second seat in South Down, ahead of Alliance. This was a stronghold till recently.0 -
It would only happen if they fail to form a government, and they have previously said they won't go back into government with the DUP. The UK government wouldn't take back control only because SF won.Philip_Thompson said:
That would be a disaster. If Sinn Fein have won these elections then they deserve the chance to have their leader as First Minister.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sky reporting Westminster likely to take back control of NiMonksfield said:SF biggest number of seats certainly won't make May's life any easier over Brexit. Ha ha!
Shocking that all this could have been avoided had Arlene had any self respect and resigned. Now she almost certainly will have to anyway but not before taking out her cause and her colleagues first.0 -
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SF have just got the first MLA over the line in North Antrim of all places. Gobsmacked.0
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You underestimate what a deep psychological blow it will be to their dreams of Making England Great Again. If the rest of the UK says 'you're on your own', it won't take five minutes for feelings of humiliation and rejection to set in.another_richard said:
The trend to devolution has been happening since 1997.AlastairMeeks said:It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.
You can see the Leave vote as part of that trend in it being a vote against EverCloserUnion.
And there will be no shortage of English Conservatives not displeased by EverLooserUnion with Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Some will even be hoping that Scouseland can go the same way.0 -
Arlene is back in the building. Morrow has his coat on0
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Yes so it is hardly a massive vote for nationalism, many unionists will have voted Alliance and of course the DUP narrowly won the first preference count despite SF gainsanother_richard said:The SDLP seem to have done appallingly.
How have they collapsed so much among middle class Catholics ?0 -
There's always been a Nationalist seat in North Antrim.Monksfield said:SF have just got the first MLA over the line in North Antrim of all places. Gobsmacked.
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London manages ok for water. Unless the little Englanders are planning on damming the Thames?Mortimer said:
London quite likes our food, water, and our houses too.AlastairMeeks said:
The sticky conversation would be about London. Little English Conservatives (and the phrase is fair for those who are interested only in like-minded brethren) don't like London or its values. But boy, they like its money.another_richard said:
The trend to devolution has been happening since 1997.AlastairMeeks said:It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.
You can see the Leave vote as part of that trend in it being a vote against EverCloserUnion.
And there will be no shortage of English Conservatives not displeased by EverLooserUnion with Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Some will even be hoping that Scouseland can go the same way.
As for food, the little Englanders are no doubt working on self-picking crops but until then it would probably be wiser to secure supplies elsewhere.0 -
And London likes Little England's food, water and energy supplies. Even if doesn't like the 'carrot crunchers' or their values.AlastairMeeks said:
The sticky conversation would be about London. Little English Conservatives (and the phrase is fair for those who are interested only in like-minded brethren) don't like London or its values. But boy, they like its money.another_richard said:
The trend to devolution has been happening since 1997.AlastairMeeks said:It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.
You can see the Leave vote as part of that trend in it being a vote against EverCloserUnion.
And there will be no shortage of English Conservatives not displeased by EverLooserUnion with Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Some will even be hoping that Scouseland can go the same way.
In reality London's prosperity depends upon financial services and being the location of the British state.
An independent London would certainly lose the latter and most likely the former.
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Hornchurch and Upminster the perfect place to live, straddling the two as it does?AlastairMeeks said:
London manages ok for water. Unless the little Englanders are planning on damming the Thames?Mortimer said:
London quite likes our food, water, and our houses too.AlastairMeeks said:
The sticky conversation would be about London. Little English Conservatives (and the phrase is fair for those who are interested only in like-minded brethren) don't like London or its values. But boy, they like its money.another_richard said:
The trend to devolution has been happening since 1997.AlastairMeeks said:It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.
You can see the Leave vote as part of that trend in it being a vote against EverCloserUnion.
And there will be no shortage of English Conservatives not displeased by EverLooserUnion with Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Some will even be hoping that Scouseland can go the same way.
As for food, the little Englanders are no doubt working on self-picking crops but until then it would probably be wiser to secure supplies elsewhere.0 -
However, the City's financial transactions are guaranteed by the UK as a whole, with the B o E being lender of last resort.AlastairMeeks said:
London manages ok for water. Unless the little Englanders are planning on damming the Thames?Mortimer said:
London quite likes our food, water, and our houses too.AlastairMeeks said:
The sticky conversation would be about London. Little English Conservatives (and the phrase is fair for those who are interested only in like-minded brethren) don't like London or its values. But boy, they like its money.another_richard said:
The trend to devolution has been happening since 1997.AlastairMeeks said:It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.
You can see the Leave vote as part of that trend in it being a vote against EverCloserUnion.
And there will be no shortage of English Conservatives not displeased by EverLooserUnion with Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Some will even be hoping that Scouseland can go the same way.
As for food, the little Englanders are no doubt working on self-picking crops but until then it would probably be wiser to secure supplies elsewhere.0 -
Indeed.Philip_Thompson said:
That would be a disaster. If Sinn Fein have won these elections then they deserve the chance to have their leader as First Minister.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Sky reporting Westminster likely to take back control of NiMonksfield said:SF biggest number of seats certainly won't make May's life any easier over Brexit. Ha ha!
Shocking that all this could have been avoided had Arlene had any self respect and resigned. Now she almost certainly will have to anyway but not before taking out her cause and her colleagues first.
I suspect a bit of SF leading the government might not boost their support - they're not the SNP.
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+1TheScreamingEagles said:Give that girl an award though
My Mummy says you hate foreigners.
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Rubbish, Wales for starters voted Leave and there is no nationalist majority tonight and not is there in Scotland either. Though most Leavers would probably prefer a return to England and Wales with border control and sovereignty than a return to the EUwilliamglenn said:
You underestimate what a deep psychological blow it will be to their dreams of Making England Great Again. If the rest of the UK says 'you're on your own', it won't take five minutes for feelings of humiliation and rejection to set in.another_richard said:
The trend to devolution has been happening since 1997.AlastairMeeks said:It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.
You can see the Leave vote as part of that trend in it being a vote against EverCloserUnion.
And there will be no shortage of English Conservatives not displeased by EverLooserUnion with Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Some will even be hoping that Scouseland can go the same way.0 -
But the first one elected?Sean_F said:
There's always been a Nationalist seat in North Antrim.Monksfield said:SF have just got the first MLA over the line in North Antrim of all places. Gobsmacked.
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It's remarkable how quickly the little Englanders resort to attempted blackmail (and how poorly informed they are - the public sector share of London's economy is the smallest in Britain). But they can't expect to keep sponging off Londoners and openly hating them indefinitely.another_richard said:
And London likes Little England's food, water and energy supplies. Even if doesn't like the 'carrot crunchers' or their values.AlastairMeeks said:
The sticky conversation would be about London. Little English Conservatives (and the phrase is fair for those who are interested only in like-minded brethren) don't like London or its values. But boy, they like its money.another_richard said:
The trend to devolution has been happening since 1997.AlastairMeeks said:It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.
You can see the Leave vote as part of that trend in it being a vote against EverCloserUnion.
And there will be no shortage of English Conservatives not displeased by EverLooserUnion with Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Some will even be hoping that Scouseland can go the same way.
In reality London's prosperity depends upon financial services and being the location of the British state.
An independent London would certainly lose the latter and most likely the former.0 -
More Catholics back the Union than Protestants a United Ireland and any prospect of the latter will lead unionist paramilitaries to return to the bomb and bullet as direct rule from Westminster would see the IRA do the same, power sharing is the only way forwardBromptonaut said:
United Ireland will indeed come soon, but thanks to demographics.surbiton said:The union of Ireland will come soon. Thanks to Brexit.
I wonder how the 18-24 year olds voted.
http://bigthink.com/strange-maps/619-is-ulster-doomed-scenarios-for-repartition0 -
Sanctimony much?AlastairMeeks said:
It's remarkable how quickly the little Englanders resort to attempted blackmail (and how poorly informed they are - the public sector share of London's economy is the smallest in Britain). But they can't expect to keep sponging off Londoners and openly hating them indefinitely.another_richard said:
And London likes Little England's food, water and energy supplies. Even if doesn't like the 'carrot crunchers' or their values.AlastairMeeks said:
The sticky conversation would be about London. Little English Conservatives (and the phrase is fair for those who are interested only in like-minded brethren) don't like London or its values. But boy, they like its money.another_richard said:
The trend to devolution has been happening since 1997.AlastairMeeks said:It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.
You can see the Leave vote as part of that trend in it being a vote against EverCloserUnion.
And there will be no shortage of English Conservatives not displeased by EverLooserUnion with Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Some will even be hoping that Scouseland can go the same way.
In reality London's prosperity depends upon financial services and being the location of the British state.
An independent London would certainly lose the latter and most likely the former.0 -
And the point about London's money was different how?AlastairMeeks said:
It's remarkable how quickly the little Englanders resort to attempted blackmail (and how poorly informed they are - the public sector share of London's economy is the smallest in Britain). But they can't expect to keep sponging off Londoners and openly hating them indefinitely.another_richard said:
And London likes Little England's food, water and energy supplies. Even if doesn't like the 'carrot crunchers' or their values.AlastairMeeks said:
The sticky conversation would be about London. Little English Conservatives (and the phrase is fair for those who are interested only in like-minded brethren) don't like London or its values. But boy, they like its money.another_richard said:
The trend to devolution has been happening since 1997.AlastairMeeks said:It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.
You can see the Leave vote as part of that trend in it being a vote against EverCloserUnion.
And there will be no shortage of English Conservatives not displeased by EverLooserUnion with Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Some will even be hoping that Scouseland can go the same way.
In reality London's prosperity depends upon financial services and being the location of the British state.
An independent London would certainly lose the latter and most likely the former.0 -
Quite.RobD said:
And the point about London's money was different how?AlastairMeeks said:
It's remarkable how quickly the little Englanders resort to attempted blackmail (and how poorly informed they are - the public sector share of London's economy is the smallest in Britain). But they can't expect to keep sponging off Londoners and openly hating them indefinitely.another_richard said:
And London likes Little England's food, water and energy supplies. Even if doesn't like the 'carrot crunchers' or their values.AlastairMeeks said:
The sticky conversation would be about London. Little English Conservatives (and the phrase is fair for those who are interested only in like-minded brethren) don't like London or its values. But boy, they like its money.another_richard said:
The trend to devolution has been happening since 1997.AlastairMeeks said:It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.
You can see the Leave vote as part of that trend in it being a vote against EverCloserUnion.
And there will be no shortage of English Conservatives not displeased by EverLooserUnion with Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Some will even be hoping that Scouseland can go the same way.
In reality London's prosperity depends upon financial services and being the location of the British state.
An independent London would certainly lose the latter and most likely the former.
Can we have a petition to bring back the sensible, logical antifrank?0 -
Lame simile, you mean kittens rather than cuddly toys.AlastairMeeks said:It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.
I must say that the less the country I live in is to the taste of someone who voluntarily spends leisure time in Orban's Hungary, the happier I am. It must be like Westworld, only set in 1930s Bavaria.0 -
I suppose London could do but is bringing back the East End docks really a good idea ? But then again all the banks will have moved so Canary Wharf can be knocked down.AlastairMeeks said:
London manages ok for water. Unless the little Englanders are planning on damming the Thames?Mortimer said:
London quite likes our food, water, and our houses too.AlastairMeeks said:
The sticky conversation would be about London. Little English Conservatives (and the phrase is fair for those who are interested only in like-minded brethren) don't like London or its values. But boy, they like its money.another_richard said:
The trend to devolution has been happening since 1997.AlastairMeeks said:It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.
You can see the Leave vote as part of that trend in it being a vote against EverCloserUnion.
And there will be no shortage of English Conservatives not displeased by EverLooserUnion with Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Some will even be hoping that Scouseland can go the same way.
As for food, the little Englanders are no doubt working on self-picking crops but until then it would probably be wiser to secure supplies elsewhere.
And I see you've neglected the issue of energy supplies - Bankside will be available again when Tate Modern is relocated to England. Still I doubt that will be enough so London will have to pay the new rate of only 10x currently. Law of supply and demand 0 -
No surprise, when you field one candidate, and the other parties field several.Monksfield said:
But the first one elected?Sean_F said:
There's always been a Nationalist seat in North Antrim.Monksfield said:SF have just got the first MLA over the line in North Antrim of all places. Gobsmacked.
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If Sinn Fein do become the largest party/we're back to direct rule, does this increase the threat of Irish terrorism on the mainland?
Or am I stereotyping Irish people the way some people do with Muslims?0 -
If the little Englanders are really determined not to sell energy to London at normal market prices, other options would need to be explored. Playing energy blackmail has not enhanced Russia's position in the European energy market.another_richard said:
I suppose London could do but is bringing back the East End docks really a good idea ? But then again all the banks will have moved so Canary Wharf can be knocked down.AlastairMeeks said:
London manages ok for water. Unless the little Englanders are planning on damming the Thames?Mortimer said:
London quite likes our food, water, and our houses too.AlastairMeeks said:
The sticky conversation would be about London. Little English Conservatives (and the phrase is fair for those who are interested only in like-minded brethren) don't like London or its values. But boy, they like its money.another_richard said:
The trend to devolution has been happening since 1997.AlastairMeeks said:It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.
You can see the Leave vote as part of that trend in it being a vote against EverCloserUnion.
And there will be no shortage of English Conservatives not displeased by EverLooserUnion with Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Some will even be hoping that Scouseland can go the same way.
As for food, the little Englanders are no doubt working on self-picking crops but until then it would probably be wiser to secure supplies elsewhere.
And I see you've neglected the issue of energy supplies - Bankside will be available again when Tate Modern is relocated to England. Still I doubt that will be enough so London will have to pay the new rate of only 10x currently. Law of supply and demand
But since Putin is the new pin-up of the little Englanders, perhaps it is to be expected that they would emulate his mistakes.0 -
Yup. And why not?HYUFD said:
Rubbish, Wales for starters voted Leave and there is no nationalist majority tonight and not is there in Scotland either. Though most Leavers would probably prefer a return to England and Wales with border control and sovereignty than a return to the EUwilliamglenn said:
You underestimate what a deep psychological blow it will be to their dreams of Making England Great Again. If the rest of the UK says 'you're on your own', it won't take five minutes for feelings of humiliation and rejection to set in.another_richard said:
The trend to devolution has been happening since 1997.AlastairMeeks said:It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.
You can see the Leave vote as part of that trend in it being a vote against EverCloserUnion.
And there will be no shortage of English Conservatives not displeased by EverLooserUnion with Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Some will even be hoping that Scouseland can go the same way.0 -
The point is they weren't elected in the first round last time, despite being roughly the same situation in terms of how many candidates each party fielded.Sean_F said:
No surprise, when you field one candidate, and the other parties field several.Monksfield said:
But the first one elected?Sean_F said:
There's always been a Nationalist seat in North Antrim.Monksfield said:SF have just got the first MLA over the line in North Antrim of all places. Gobsmacked.
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Foster? Probably should have gone before!Lucian_Fletcher said:Her voice is breaking. I think she is going
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Its remarkable how quickly Little Londoners resort to attempted blackmail (and how poorly informed they are - London gets half of England's transport infrastructure investment). But they can't expect to keep sponging off England and openly hating them indefinitely.AlastairMeeks said:
It's remarkable how quickly the little Englanders resort to attempted blackmail (and how poorly informed they are - the public sector share of London's economy is the smallest in Britain). But they can't expect to keep sponging off Londoners and openly hating them indefinitely.another_richard said:
And London likes Little England's food, water and energy supplies. Even if doesn't like the 'carrot crunchers' or their values.AlastairMeeks said:
The sticky conversation would be about London. Little English Conservatives (and the phrase is fair for those who are interested only in like-minded brethren) don't like London or its values. But boy, they like its money.another_richard said:
The trend to devolution has been happening since 1997.AlastairMeeks said:It looks increasingly as if Leavers, like three year olds with cuddly toys, might have loved the UK to death.
You can see the Leave vote as part of that trend in it being a vote against EverCloserUnion.
And there will be no shortage of English Conservatives not displeased by EverLooserUnion with Scotland and Northern Ireland.
Some will even be hoping that Scouseland can go the same way.
In reality London's prosperity depends upon financial services and being the location of the British state.
An independent London would certainly lose the latter and most likely the former.
I thought London was meant to be the heart of capitalism yet some Londoners so panicky about the law of supply and demand.
The inconvenient fact is that England can survive without London but London can't survive without England.
Still in 2018 we have the London local elections, can we expect the LNP to stand ?
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So just like the rest of her campaign.Lucian_Fletcher said:Arlene left the count refusing to speak to BBC
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Conciliatory speech. Neither SF or DUP will want another election for different reasons. The Assembly might well get up and running after this0
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Lawyers aren't experts right? Checking for a friend....TheScreamingEagles said:Hooray for lawyers
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"Britain owes Brussels nothing" - It's a good thing we don't want anything from them then...TheScreamingEagles said:Hooray for lawyers
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Indeed. I've never been a fan of the Corbyn movement, but I at least occasionally entertained the idea early on that perhaps they would not be as bad as it seemed, but as of 2017 they are such a bunch of whiners I've lost even a modicum of patience with them.Danny565 said:
Ugh, I'm sick of this whining.Scott_P said:
As I said last week, the most frustrating thing about the Labour leadership is they don't even really seem to put in any effort. The Corbyn "relaunch" in January is a perfect example: he did one day of media interviews, got some bad press, and then he and his team all seemed to decide it wasn't worth even trying to make an effort since the media would always spin them badly, and Corbyn went back into hiding for weeks on end. The media are a bunch of right-wing bastards, true, but life is tough; you just get over it and make the best of a bad situation, not sit around feeling sorry for yourself and not even trying to make things better.
We get it, people have been mean, maybe even unfair. That they cannot deal with that in ways other than whinging doesn't make their being unable to handle it less a sign of incompetence.0 -
Quick recovery I hope.MikeSmithson said:
Yes. But I've been at the hospital most of the day and haven't been following itPulpstar said:Surely NI elections are a bigger political story than this ?
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Government lawyers also said the government had the power to declare article 50.TheScreamingEagles said:Hooray for lawyers
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She has to.Lucian_Fletcher said:Her voice is breaking. I think she is going
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Mr Nesbitt said the electorate had rejected his message and he had to take responsibility for what happened.
Crazy notion.0 -
Quite. Although I can't see how the EU got to such a large figure. I accept the need to pay for pensions contributions, but not about projects that will be starting after we leave.kle4 said:
Government lawyers also said the government had the power to declare article 50.TheScreamingEagles said:Hooray for lawyers
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TheScreamingEagles said:
Hooray for lawyers
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"Think of it like a golf club. Once you leave there is no obligation to keep paying."
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It may well be revealing that Project Fear never said anything of this financial obligation to the EU during the referendum campaign.TheScreamingEagles said:Hooray for lawyers
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/837769941717827588
I rather suspect it is almost all FakeNews, perhaps to divert attention from the fact that the UK does have a legal claim on the EU's assets.
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Dave was right, Brexit would lead to more terrorism.
An Asda worker has been jailed for eight years after claiming he was joining radicals linked to Islamic State in order to escape the effects of Brexit.
White convert Ryan Ashley Counsell, 28, from Nottingham, claimed his interest in living "off the grid" in the Philippines had been prompted by watching the series Lives In The Wild by the TV presenter Ben Fogle.
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He's obviously been spending too much time on the course... Not the golf course but the 'How to lose friends and alienate people' course.MarkHopkins said:"Think of it like a golf club. Once you leave there is no obligation to keep paying."
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Yes, we want our share of that giant egg they built in Brussels!another_richard said:
It may well be revealing that Project Fear never said anything of this financial obligation to the EU during the referendum campaign.TheScreamingEagles said:Hooray for lawyers
twitter.com/hendopolis/status/837769941717827588
I rather suspect it is almost all FakeNews, perhaps to divert attention from the fact that the UK does have a legal claim on the EU's assets.0 -
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Government lawyers also said the government had the power to declare article 50.TheScreamingEagles said:Hooray for lawyers
hts://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/837769941717827588
"the legal advice, which has been backed up by independent experts"
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I am very seriously considering moving to Gidea Park, or possibly Harold Wood (which is still technically London but on the cusp of the rural).isam said:
Hornchurch and Upminster the perfect place to live, straddling the two as it does?AlastairMeeks said:
London manages ok for water. Unless the little Englanders are planning on damming the Thames?
As for food, the little Englanders are no doubt working on self-picking crops but until then it would probably be wiser to secure supplies elsewhere.
Partly in the hope that CrossRail is going to make them substantially more desirable places to live, but Gidea Park is quite plush for that end of London, and I like the countryside around Harold Wood.
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Or a 'Dining Club'.MarkHopkins said:TheScreamingEagles said:Hooray for lawyers
twitter.com/hendopolis/status/837769941717827588
"Think of it like a golf club. Once you leave there is no obligation to keep paying."
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Wasn't that the comparison that Stuart Rose made with EU membership.0 -
So we are paying them to like us?williamglenn said:
He's obviously been spending too much time on the course... Not the golf course but the 'How to lose friends and alienate people' course.MarkHopkins said:"Think of it like a golf club. Once you leave there is no obligation to keep paying."
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No but comparing it to a golf club hardly demonstrates that we have any deep understanding of the importance of the EU to its other members. It just makes us look trivial and offensive.RobD said:
So we are paying them to like us?williamglenn said:
He's obviously been spending too much time on the course... Not the golf course but the 'How to lose friends and alienate people' course.MarkHopkins said:"Think of it like a golf club. Once you leave there is no obligation to keep paying."
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Some backed the government position on A50 too (indeed, 3 Supreme Court judges agreed).MarkHopkins said:kle4 said:
Government lawyers also said the government had the power to declare article 50.TheScreamingEagles said:Hooray for lawyers
hts://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/837769941717827588
"the legal advice, which has been backed up by independent experts"
I'm not saying they are wrong, I have no way of knowing, but merely because lawyers say so isn't definitive, nor even because some experts agree, so unless the matter is truly tested (and surely more probably we'll meet somewhere in the middle) it's no more settled.
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Snowflakey about your pet project Mr Glenn ?williamglenn said:
No but comparing it to a golf club hardly demonstrates that we have any deep understanding of the importance of the EU to its other members. It just makes us look trivial and offensive.RobD said:
So we are paying them to like us?williamglenn said:
He's obviously been spending too much time on the course... Not the golf course but the 'How to lose friends and alienate people' course.MarkHopkins said:"Think of it like a golf club. Once you leave there is no obligation to keep paying."
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