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The above chart is based on data from the latest Ipsos MORI issues index and shows the party splits of those, unprompted, naming BREXIT as the main, or one of the the main, issues facing Britain at the moment.
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Fake news Mike?
UKIP's figure may reflect that if you've won, you can be more detached.
https://twitter.com/IpsosMORI/status/832551412676567040
Don't overuse the 'fake news' accusation.
Surely not gender-neutral bathrooms!
LD issue is to ensure that we don't
Tory issue is to ensure that we do.
Labour focussing more on health.
UKIP don't give a shit - job largely done.
Edit: and I'm planning to stay there for some considerable time.
We shouldn't obstruct Brexit.
Let it happen, and if we're proved wrong about it, so be it, it'll be great for the country and us, I'd much rather be mocked than see the UK struggle.
If it turns out Brexit is a disaster, well we can be proved right, and imagine the look on the Leavers face when they realise that we'll have to rejoin on the EU on worse terms than we left.
Spin
Rub their noses
Dome / Cool Britannia wankiness
Not killing Gordo
Bringing PC identity politics to the UK
etc
etc
He made a huge difference to the UK. Nothing of it to our good. Justifiably detested by both left and right.
https://www.ipsos-mori.com/Assets/Docs/Polls/ipsos-mori-issues-index-jan-2017-tables.pdf
UKIP voters may not care too much about brexit - but they do want something done about the immigrants;
Page 32.
Most important issue = Immigration;
Con / Lab / Lib / UKIP
44% / 24% / 23% / 62%
It's become a cliche for people avoiding proper analysis.
Lords reform
Voting reform
Vastly increasing public spending for little gain
Tuition fees
Iraq
etc
etc
Trump's attack on the media comes at a time when the public's confidence in the media is at one of its all-time lows https://t.co/1cA6e94PcW https://t.co/W6S4fmaSAC
That was a few days ago, of course.
Are we still allowed 'alternate facts' ?
However, if Brexit is stopped or even delayed, those voters will switch round rapidly. Even Jezza can see that you don't kick a hornet's nest when they are peaceful. Not just before a couple of important bye-elections.
Ukip will not win Stoke or Copeland. They were never in the frame, and never will be unless the HoL upsets the applecart within the next week . It's why Jezza had a three-line whip. The Northern Labour MPs can read the runes.
Only the die-hards will bother to vote Ukip - their purpose has disappeared for the time being.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-17/eu-financial-transaction-tax-said-to-hit-roadblock-over-pensions
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/17/europes-biggest-paper-bild-bogus-refugee-sex-mob-story
A lot of them have not yet realised that Mrs May, with her concern to outflank UKIP and keep the Tory Party united, is doing precisely that.
Extraordinarily, concern about the economy is at its lowest score since 2008 (the NHS and housing near highs).
Retail sales fall "unexpectedly"
Another Brexit beauty.
In my workshops on safety, I spend a lot of time providing scientists with tools to help them set realistic priorities for improving safety and security. After conducting your brainstorming - the first step, and this is all this poll does (in fact, by only asking the first thing that comes to mind it is taking only the very first movement of the first step) - to generate your wish/fear list, then you must decide where to put the resources. To do that you have to ask a series of questions, such as:
What resources will it take? Do we have the resources/can we get them? At what opportunity cost?
How long will it take?
How difficult will it be? How able are we to do it, even with the resources?
What else would does this action depend on to be successful?
How willing are people to make the change?
What is the likely impact? (probability of success x return)?
This is not an exhaustive list, but is indicative of the weightings that are needed to go from a wish list to an actual sense of people's motivations to act - what are they willing to put the time and effort into to do something about the initial vague feeling.
Mike in his 'this suggests that' is taking the results of the very first inch of the first step as the final priorities - or motivation - list. It may be true, but it is a highly suspect approach in my opinion. So suspect, it smacks me of confirmation bias.
Just wondering what order this irregular verb should be in...
I am spinning the story.
You are providing fake news.
He is spreading propaganda.
sorry, missed the point. edited. coat got.
I know. He was hilarious, wasn't he?
The MSM are wrong.
Spending is rising - the world is coming to an end - unbalanced economy, savings rate down.
Spending is falling - the world is coming to an end. Brexit.
https://twitter.com/lucycthomas/status/832488126996045824
My main concern is that the UK economy is so dependent on people like my brother's family whose main 'hobby' is shopping.
I'd much rather were an export lead economy with a BoP surplus. I appreciate this is wishful thinking :>
Ukip not winning Euros
Carswell not winning Clacton by E
Reckless losing Rochester By E
NOM at GE 15
"It's the economy, stupid' 'meaning Remain win the Ref
...and the first female POTUS!
"Let it happen, and ...If it turns out Brexit is a disaster, well we can be proved right, and imagine the look on the Leavers face when they realise that we'll have to rejoin on the EU on worse terms than we left."
Funny that. I remember the Tories saying something similar in 1997. Let this new kid Blair ruin the economy like they always do and we'll be back within three years. How did that turn out?
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Breibart is #106; BBC News is #9 and #20 (.co.uk and .com)
+ Alexa data:
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/breitbart.com
The question of what the MSM is now, and what it will be in ten years' time, is very interesting, and especially if the current memes continue.
it will probably be a nuttall website failure rather than a ukip failure if it happens i guess. i suspect the stoke electorate is not going to swing so wildly. turnout i suppose
Suspect the trump voters equally likely to read bbc as I am breitbart
I voted Labour through the seventies up until 1997. I then switched to the LDs (and quite liked Paddy and the alky one) through to 2015 when I voted Kipper. I wouldn't think of voting Ukip now ... unless the anti-democrats gain the upper hand. Give me a good reason to so.
Once Tim ( a good old God-botherer) loses his Euro-fanaticism, I'll probably go back to the Yellows. Unless they dry hump the Greens, of course. I don't want to spend my dotage in a draughty cave eating grass.
This is a survey of one person (me) but why would Stoke vote Ukip at the moment?.
If you bet £20 on Tony Blair becoming the next Labour leader, you'll lose £20.
"Sand in the wheels" (© James Tobin) has now coalesced into a roadblock.