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Told Diane Abbott sat on the frontbench for some time, before Keith Vaz Jim the local washing machine salesman took her by the arm to go and vote.

My favourite WTF moment tonight - the tuneless SNP Choir.

I think it even trumped Diane Abbot explaining why she voted for Article 50 through gritted teeth..

Well he's a far more plausible potential challenger than Owen Smith ever was.

But will he run ?

I've asked him on Tw@tter !

https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/829437594173796352

TheWhiteRabbit said:

I've taken 989/1 on Chris Leslie in this market how about that for a long shot!

Probably about right for Chris Leslie lol - you'll never see that £2 again I'm afraid :>

https://twitter.com/byrosenberg/status/829436923160600576

Lewis should man up now and challenge Jesbo.

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TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Well he's a far more plausible potential challenger than Owen Smith ever was.

But will he run ?

I've asked him on Tw@tter !

https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/829437594173796352

I'm really proud of my next Labour party leader book.

I only make a loss if the next leader is Andy Burnham, David Miliband, and, Owen Smith,

Yes, that's a fairly safe book I should have thought.

Are you backing Ed Miliband like @alastairmeeks ?

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Well he's a far more plausible potential challenger than Owen Smith ever was.

But will he run ?

I've asked him on Tw@tter !

https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/829437594173796352

I'm really proud of my next Labour party leader book.

I only make a loss if the next leader is Andy Burnham, David Miliband, and, Owen Smith,

I'm plus +120 on most candidates which would be a decent return.

+2000 on Chris Leslie on the other hand...

Apparently Clive Lewis has bought a sharp new suit, replacing the usual tweed number.

I make no further comment.

Jobabob said:

Lewis should man up now and challenge Jesbo.

Nah, he won't do it just yet. Scuppering two by-elections wouldn't be a good look.

Clive Lewis next up on the chopping board for Corbyn then

TheWhiteRabbit said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Well he's a far more plausible potential challenger than Owen Smith ever was.

But will he run ?

I've asked him on Tw@tter !

https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/829437594173796352

I'm really proud of my next Labour party leader book.

I only make a loss if the next leader is Andy Burnham, David Miliband, and, Owen Smith,

I'm plus +120 on most candidates which would be a decent return.

+2000 on Chris Leslie on the other hand...

+1175 Lewis, -217.45 due to Corbyn heading off for an early bath at the moment.

So +957 overall :>

Pulpstar said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Well he's a far more plausible potential challenger than Owen Smith ever was.

But will he run ?

I've asked him on Tw@tter !

https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/829437594173796352

I'm really proud of my next Labour party leader book.

I only make a loss if the next leader is Andy Burnham, David Miliband, and, Owen Smith,

I'm plus +120 on most candidates which would be a decent return.

+2000 on Chris Leslie on the other hand...

+1175 Lewis, -217.45 due to Corbyn heading off for an early bath at the moment.

So +957 overall :>

You could probably invest in the £5 membership fee just in case

TheWhiteRabbit said:

Pulpstar said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Well he's a far more plausible potential challenger than Owen Smith ever was.

But will he run ?

I've asked him on Tw@tter !

https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/829437594173796352

I'm really proud of my next Labour party leader book.

I only make a loss if the next leader is Andy Burnham, David Miliband, and, Owen Smith,

I'm plus +120 on most candidates which would be a decent return.

+2000 on Chris Leslie on the other hand...

+1175 Lewis, -217.45 due to Corbyn heading off for an early bath at the moment.

So +957 overall :>

You could probably invest in the £5 membership fee just in case

Would be breaking party rules I'm afraid.

Good news PBers. I've written a thread on AV that will be published either tomorrow or Friday. It's not a magnum opus though, a very brief piece.

TheScreamingEagles said:

It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

The Tory "save ed miliband" crew will have to reform.with an updated mission statement.

Pulpstar said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

Pulpstar said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Well he's a far more plausible potential challenger than Owen Smith ever was.

But will he run ?

I've asked him on Tw@tter !

https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/829437594173796352

I'm really proud of my next Labour party leader book.

I only make a loss if the next leader is Andy Burnham, David Miliband, and, Owen Smith,

I'm plus +120 on most candidates which would be a decent return.

+2000 on Chris Leslie on the other hand...

+1175 Lewis, -217.45 due to Corbyn heading off for an early bath at the moment.

So +957 overall :>

You could probably invest in the £5 membership fee just in case

Would be breaking party rules I'm afraid.

It wasn't a serious suggestion, I'd never troll another party like that. Is that the yellows?

surbiton said:

"It’s Clive Lewisn’t a member of the shadow cabinet anymore and becomes favourite to succeed Corbyn"

Translation, please.

It's one of my very very subtle puns.

Without tangible electoral success (and merely holding on to seats in by-elections is hardly that, since governments really are not supposed to win such things), challenges or passive aggressive sniping will continue. I don't care how stubborn Corbyn is or how much backing he may still have among the base, sooner or later that becomes too much.

I am still part convinced Corbyn has taken the stance on A50 he has because he knows he is the wrong leader for labour long term, but believes Labour has to do this for future prospects - and an objectively better leader might have taken the wrong call and made the party position worse long term.

TheWhiteRabbit said:

Pulpstar said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

Pulpstar said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

Well he's a far more plausible potential challenger than Owen Smith ever was.

But will he run ?

I've asked him on Tw@tter !

https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/829437594173796352

I'm really proud of my next Labour party leader book.

I only make a loss if the next leader is Andy Burnham, David Miliband, and, Owen Smith,

I'm plus +120 on most candidates which would be a decent return.

+2000 on Chris Leslie on the other hand...

+1175 Lewis, -217.45 due to Corbyn heading off for an early bath at the moment.

So +957 overall :>

You could probably invest in the £5 membership fee just in case

Would be breaking party rules I'm afraid.

It wasn't a serious suggestion, I'd never troll another party like that. Is that the yellows?

Yes, I'm to the left on some issues (Tuition fees, very grudgingly just about pro nuclear purely for soft diplomatic reasons at the moment) to the right on others (I wouldn't vote against Art 50) - but it matches my views the closest I think.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Good news PBers. I've written a thread on AV that will be published either tomorrow or Friday. It's not a magnum opus though, a very brief piece.

I don't know that I can trust your own judgement on whether this AV piece will be your magnum opus or not. Perhaps you could list them all and we could vote on our favourites in some kind of run off.

HYUFD said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

£850 looking to back Chuka at 27/1

I'm guessing someone on here who laid him right out before

Chuka is worth a punt, he is sensibly staying out of it at the moment and letting Lewis be the latest kamikaze to take on the Corbyn machine. He knows that until Corbyn/McDonnell are defeated at a general election there is little point taking on Corbynism

Chuka will be worth a punt once any of the pre-requisites come to pass, and not before. But for me he is "the field" - if you'd laid him now would be a good point to even out.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Good news PBers. I've written a thread on AV that will be published either tomorrow or Friday. It's not a magnum opus though, a very brief piece.

Is it?

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TheScreamingEagles said:

It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

A general election with Corbyn would be something to behold.
The theme tune would be Eiffel 65

Pulpstar said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

That is the only way I can see him going.

McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?

If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.

Well McDonnell would be nice from a betting PoV. But it'd be frying pan/fire stuff so far as midland marginals go in particular.

I think the PLP, correctly in my view, think that McDonnell doesn't gird the loins of the Labour party members in the way Corbyn does.

Pulpstar said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

That is the only way I can see him going.

McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?

If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.

Well McDonnell would be nice from a betting PoV. But it'd be frying pan/fire stuff so far as midland marginals go in particular.

He's more effective. Like Trump, Corbyn's position on issues only goes from poor to truly terrible by virtue of the complete cock-up being made.

However, fundamentally Labour cannot win from the left, so five more years of McDonnell - though better - would still be bad for the party.

GarethoftheVale2 said:

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Tom Watson as next Labour leader:

- Could bridge the gap between the Corbynistas and Blairites
- Cosy with UNITE
- Politically savvy
- Already has a mandate as deputy leader

- Called Gove a 'miserable pipsqueak' in the Commons chamber

Jobabob said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

That is the only way I can see him going.

McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?

If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.

Depends on who that person was, surely? McDonnell would be even worse. He is like Corbyn but without the charm.

He seems more authoritative and convincing on TV.

TheWhiteRabbit said:

HYUFD said:

TheWhiteRabbit said:

£850 looking to back Chuka at 27/1

I'm guessing someone on here who laid him right out before

Chuka is worth a punt, he is sensibly staying out of it at the moment and letting Lewis be the latest kamikaze to take on the Corbyn machine. He knows that until Corbyn/McDonnell are defeated at a general election there is little point taking on Corbynism

Chuka will be worth a punt once any of the pre-requisites come to pass, and not before. But for me he is "the field" - if you'd laid him now would be a good point to even out.

Yes, this is the time to back him

GarethoftheVale2 said:

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Tom Watson as next Labour leader:

- Could bridge the gap between the Corbynistas and Blairites
- Cosy with UNITE
- Politically savvy
- Already has a mandate as deputy leader

Pig Ugly.

ThreeQuidder said:

Freggles said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

A general election with Corbyn would be something to behold.
The theme tune would be Eiffel 65

Who's going to die in Aberdeen?

Scotland would have their own election as an independent country

Is there a market on who replaces Clive at Shadow Business? I'm hearing Ed Milliband...

TheWhiteRabbit said:

Pulpstar said:

SandyRentool said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

That is the only way I can see him going.

McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?

If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.

And if that preferred choice is Abbot?

I never got on those Labour sub 20% bets. I'll be regretting that if its Abbot. Anyway she doesn't have the necessary 'equipment' to become leader.

I don't recall any of those odds being remotely close to value.

In reality UKIP simply hasn't shown enough strength to make Labour look like they're heading sub 20.

@jeremycorbyn: Real fight starts now. Over next two years Labour will use every opportunity to ensure Brexit protects jobs, living standards & the economy.

@NicolaSturgeon: How? You've just handed the Tories a blank cheque. You didn't win a single concession but still voted for the Bill. Pathetic. twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/s…

HYUFD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

That is the only way I can see him going.

McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?

If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.

Well McDonnell would be nice from a betting PoV. But it'd be frying pan/fire stuff so far as midland marginals go in particular.

I think the PLP, correctly in my view, think that McDonnell doesn't gird the loins of the Labour party members in the way Corbyn does.

He could be Michael Howard to Corbyn's IDS

A better comparison would be IDS to Corbyn's Billy Hague.

Jobabob said:

Scott_P said:

@jeremycorbyn: Real fight starts now. Over next two years Labour will use every opportunity to ensure Brexit protects jobs, living standards & the economy.

@NicolaSturgeon: How? You've just handed the Tories a blank cheque. You didn't win a single concession but still voted for the Bill. Pathetic. twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/s…

Wee Nicky on form as usual.

Some of us thought the real fight began prior to June 23rd 2016.

Jobabob said:

HYUFD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Pulpstar said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

That is the only way I can see him going.

McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?

If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.

Well McDonnell would be nice from a betting PoV. But it'd be frying pan/fire stuff so far as midland marginals go in particular.

I think the PLP, correctly in my view, think that McDonnell doesn't gird the loins of the Labour party members in the way Corbyn does.

He could be Michael Howard to Corbyn's IDS

A better comparison would be IDS to Corbyn's Billy Hague.

No, Ed Miliband was Hague

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TheScreamingEagles said:

Jobabob said:

Scott_P said:

@jeremycorbyn: Real fight starts now. Over next two years Labour will use every opportunity to ensure Brexit protects jobs, living standards & the economy.

@NicolaSturgeon: How? You've just handed the Tories a blank cheque. You didn't win a single concession but still voted for the Bill. Pathetic. twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/s…

Wee Nicky on form as usual.

Some of us thought the real fight began prior to June 23rd 2016.

Bravo. Quite right. Corbyn really is a pathetic joke.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Good news PBers. I've written a thread on AV that will be published either tomorrow or Friday. It's not a magnum opus though, a very brief piece.

AV referendum, 2011:

No 2 AV: 68%
Yes 2 AV: 32%

https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/829450087294259200

FrancisUrquhart said:

Reports of a large explosion on the Paris metro. Initial report is electrical fault.

Oh god. Now you have done it. The entire thread will now be taken up by frothing nutters speculating about the name of the electrician.

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/829450087294259200

I thought that most of the whips/shepherds were running free tonight and voting the other way.

DavidL said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/829450087294259200

I thought that most of the whips/shepherds were running free tonight and voting the other way.

Corbyn made the mistake of appointing masochists instead of sadists.

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