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edited February 2017 in General

imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » It’s Clive Lewisn’t a member of the shadow cabinet anymore and becomes favourite to succeed Corbyn

Minutes after he quit the shadow cabinet, Clive Lewis is now 5/1 favourite to be the next Labour leader… pic.twitter.com/GnXamt4bOX

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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited February 2017
    First...Lets Make America New Threads Great Again!
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,811
    edited February 2017
    Corbyn eats 'plausible' challengers for breakfast.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Told Diane Abbott sat on the frontbench for some time, before Keith Vaz Jim the local washing machine salesman took her by the arm to go and vote.
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    MortimerMortimer Posts: 13,946
    Awful pun. Just awful. Afraid to say that TSE's just a failing pun machine now. Sad!
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    numbertwelvenumbertwelve Posts: 5,478
    My favourite WTF moment tonight - the tuneless SNP Choir.

    I think it even trumped Diane Abbot explaining why she voted for Article 50 through gritted teeth..
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    I've taken 989/1 on Chris Leslie in this market :) how about that for a long shot!
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,930
    Well he's a far more plausible potential challenger than Owen Smith ever was.

    But will he run ?

    I've asked him on Tw@tter !

    https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/829437594173796352
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    Come on then Scott, you tell me how Goldmans liquidating an 8-man undermining fund whose managing director has resigned from his post is "despite Brexit"
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,930
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    I've taken 989/1 on Chris Leslie in this market :) how about that for a long shot!

    Probably about right for Chris Leslie lol - you'll never see that £2 again I'm afraid :>
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Looks like US college "cultural appropriation" bollocks is spreading here...

    http://thetab.com/uk/bristol/2017/02/07/bristol-students-accused-blacking-promotional-fancy-dress-house-party-28334
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    justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    I don't see why Lewis - or anyone else - had to resign because of ignoring the Three-line Whip. There was always the precedent of Autumn 1971 to fall back on when 69 Labour MPs - including Deputy Leader Roy Jenkins - rebelled in support of the Heath Government's terms for entering the EEC. Nobody resigned - or was sacked on that occasion. Why should this be so different?
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    Pulpstar said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    I've taken 989/1 on Chris Leslie in this market :) how about that for a long shot!

    Probably about right for Chris Leslie lol - you'll never see that £2 again I'm afraid :>
    I'm prepared to get another £2 on Wes Streeting if anyone wants it.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    https://twitter.com/byrosenberg/status/829436923160600576
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,501
    Pulpstar said:

    Well he's a far more plausible potential challenger than Owen Smith ever was.

    But will he run ?

    I've asked him on Tw@tter !

    https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/829437594173796352

    I'm really proud of my next Labour party leader book.

    I only make a loss if the next leader is Andy Burnham, David Miliband, and, Owen Smith,
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    JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    Lewis should man up now and challenge Jesbo.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,930
    Jobabob said:

    Lewis should man up now and challenge Jesbo.

    It'd be nice for my old friend "Time value of money"
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Intel To Invest $7 Billion in Factory in Arizona, Employ 3,000 People

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/08/trump-meets-intel-ceo-brian-krzanich.html

    5...4..3..2...1...Trump tweet
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,811
    Jobabob said:

    Lewis should man up now and challenge Jesbo.

    And allow a potential loss in Copeland or Stoke to be written off as by party apathy caused by constant leadership challenges?

    For what it's worth I think they'll hold both regardless.
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    JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Well he's a far more plausible potential challenger than Owen Smith ever was.

    But will he run ?

    I've asked him on Tw@tter !

    https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/829437594173796352

    I'm really proud of my next Labour party leader book.

    I only make a loss if the next leader is Andy Burnham, David Miliband, and, Owen Smith,
    Yes, that's a fairly safe book I should have thought.

    Are you backing Ed Miliband like @alastairmeeks ?
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    SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    Well that was all fairly painless, - and now the Lords…!

    Clive Lewis, there must be method in his madness, but I can’t quite work it out.
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Well he's a far more plausible potential challenger than Owen Smith ever was.

    But will he run ?

    I've asked him on Tw@tter !

    https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/829437594173796352

    I'm really proud of my next Labour party leader book.

    I only make a loss if the next leader is Andy Burnham, David Miliband, and, Owen Smith,
    I'm plus +120 on most candidates which would be a decent return.

    +2000 on Chris Leslie on the other hand...
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,930
    kle4 said:

    Jobabob said:

    Lewis should man up now and challenge Jesbo.

    And allow a potential loss in Copeland or Stoke to be written off as by party apathy caused by constant leadership challenges?

    For what it's worth I think they'll hold both regardless.
    The best part is that we here care far more about the Stoke or Copeland by election then they in the BEs will. Particularly Stoke, the turnout will be barely 30% in that one.
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    JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    Apparently Clive Lewis has bought a sharp new suit, replacing the usual tweed number.

    I make no further comment.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    SimonStClare said:

    Well that was all fairly painless, - and now the Lords…!

    Clive Lewis, there must be method in his madness, but I can’t quite work it out.

    You are giving a man who accidentally voted the wrong way a lot of credit.
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    EssexitEssexit Posts: 1,956
    Jobabob said:

    Lewis should man up now and challenge Jesbo.

    Nah, he won't do it just yet. Scuppering two by-elections wouldn't be a good look.
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    £850 looking to back Chuka at 27/1

    I'm guessing someone on here who laid him right out before
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,030
    Clive Lewis next up on the chopping board for Corbyn then
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    oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,831
    SimonStClare said:

    Well that was all fairly painless, - and now the Lords…!

    Clive Lewis, there must be method in his madness, but I can’t quite work it out.

    There was talk some time ago about serious health issues (mainly in connection to his significant rapid weight loss)....
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,930
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Well he's a far more plausible potential challenger than Owen Smith ever was.

    But will he run ?

    I've asked him on Tw@tter !

    https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/829437594173796352

    I'm really proud of my next Labour party leader book.

    I only make a loss if the next leader is Andy Burnham, David Miliband, and, Owen Smith,
    I'm plus +120 on most candidates which would be a decent return.

    +2000 on Chris Leslie on the other hand...
    +1175 Lewis, -217.45 due to Corbyn heading off for an early bath at the moment.

    So +957 overall :>
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    JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    £850 looking to back Chuka at 27/1

    I'm guessing someone on here who laid him right out before

    I'm actually on him at that price – longstanding old bet. I can't see that one coming in!!
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    Pulpstar said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Well he's a far more plausible potential challenger than Owen Smith ever was.

    But will he run ?

    I've asked him on Tw@tter !

    https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/829437594173796352

    I'm really proud of my next Labour party leader book.

    I only make a loss if the next leader is Andy Burnham, David Miliband, and, Owen Smith,
    I'm plus +120 on most candidates which would be a decent return.

    +2000 on Chris Leslie on the other hand...
    +1175 Lewis, -217.45 due to Corbyn heading off for an early bath at the moment.

    So +957 overall :>
    You could probably invest in the £5 membership fee just in case
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    JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    Essexit said:

    Jobabob said:

    Lewis should man up now and challenge Jesbo.

    Nah, he won't do it just yet. Scuppering two by-elections wouldn't be a good look.

    Oh yes, ideally after Labour lose both.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,930
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Well he's a far more plausible potential challenger than Owen Smith ever was.

    But will he run ?

    I've asked him on Tw@tter !

    https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/829437594173796352

    I'm really proud of my next Labour party leader book.

    I only make a loss if the next leader is Andy Burnham, David Miliband, and, Owen Smith,
    I'm plus +120 on most candidates which would be a decent return.

    +2000 on Chris Leslie on the other hand...
    +1175 Lewis, -217.45 due to Corbyn heading off for an early bath at the moment.

    So +957 overall :>
    You could probably invest in the £5 membership fee just in case
    Would be breaking party rules I'm afraid.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,501
    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,501
    edited February 2017
    Good news PBers. I've written a thread on AV that will be published either tomorrow or Friday. It's not a magnum opus though, a very brief piece.
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    surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    "It’s Clive Lewisn’t a member of the shadow cabinet anymore and becomes favourite to succeed Corbyn"

    Translation, please.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited February 2017
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    The Tory "save ed miliband" crew will have to reform.with an updated mission statement.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,930
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

    That is the only way I can see him going.

    McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    Pulpstar said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Well he's a far more plausible potential challenger than Owen Smith ever was.

    But will he run ?

    I've asked him on Tw@tter !

    https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/829437594173796352

    I'm really proud of my next Labour party leader book.

    I only make a loss if the next leader is Andy Burnham, David Miliband, and, Owen Smith,
    I'm plus +120 on most candidates which would be a decent return.

    +2000 on Chris Leslie on the other hand...
    +1175 Lewis, -217.45 due to Corbyn heading off for an early bath at the moment.

    So +957 overall :>
    You could probably invest in the £5 membership fee just in case
    Would be breaking party rules I'm afraid.
    It wasn't a serious suggestion, I'd never troll another party like that. Is that the yellows?
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,030
    edited February 2017
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    £850 looking to back Chuka at 27/1

    I'm guessing someone on here who laid him right out before

    Chuka is worth a punt, he is sensibly staying out of it at the moment and letting Lewis be the latest kamikaze to take on the Corbyn machine. He knows that until Corbyn/McDonnell are defeated at a general election there is little point taking on Corbynism
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,501
    surbiton said:

    "It’s Clive Lewisn’t a member of the shadow cabinet anymore and becomes favourite to succeed Corbyn"

    Translation, please.

    It's one of my very very subtle puns.
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    GarethoftheVale2GarethoftheVale2 Posts: 1,997
    I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Tom Watson as next Labour leader:

    - Could bridge the gap between the Corbynistas and Blairites
    - Cosy with UNITE
    - Politically savvy
    - Already has a mandate as deputy leader
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,811
    Without tangible electoral success (and merely holding on to seats in by-elections is hardly that, since governments really are not supposed to win such things), challenges or passive aggressive sniping will continue. I don't care how stubborn Corbyn is or how much backing he may still have among the base, sooner or later that becomes too much.

    I am still part convinced Corbyn has taken the stance on A50 he has because he knows he is the wrong leader for labour long term, but believes Labour has to do this for future prospects - and an objectively better leader might have taken the wrong call and made the party position worse long term.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,501
    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

    That is the only way I can see him going.

    McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?
    If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,930
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Well he's a far more plausible potential challenger than Owen Smith ever was.

    But will he run ?

    I've asked him on Tw@tter !

    https://twitter.com/Pulpstar/status/829437594173796352

    I'm really proud of my next Labour party leader book.

    I only make a loss if the next leader is Andy Burnham, David Miliband, and, Owen Smith,
    I'm plus +120 on most candidates which would be a decent return.

    +2000 on Chris Leslie on the other hand...
    +1175 Lewis, -217.45 due to Corbyn heading off for an early bath at the moment.

    So +957 overall :>
    You could probably invest in the £5 membership fee just in case
    Would be breaking party rules I'm afraid.
    It wasn't a serious suggestion, I'd never troll another party like that. Is that the yellows?
    Yes, I'm to the left on some issues (Tuition fees, very grudgingly just about pro nuclear purely for soft diplomatic reasons at the moment) to the right on others (I wouldn't vote against Art 50) - but it matches my views the closest I think.
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    MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    So A50 progresses. I guess the Remaining faithful will have to see if the Lourdes can provide a miracle for them.

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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,811
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Good news PBers. I've written a thread on AV that will be published either tomorrow or Friday. It's not a magnum opus though, a very brief piece.

    I don't know that I can trust your own judgement on whether this AV piece will be your magnum opus or not. Perhaps you could list them all and we could vote on our favourites in some kind of run off.
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    JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    surbiton said:

    "It’s Clive Lewisn’t a member of the shadow cabinet anymore and becomes favourite to succeed Corbyn"

    Translation, please.

    It's one of my very very subtle puns.
    I assumed it was a typo!
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    HYUFD said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    £850 looking to back Chuka at 27/1

    I'm guessing someone on here who laid him right out before

    Chuka is worth a punt, he is sensibly staying out of it at the moment and letting Lewis be the latest kamikaze to take on the Corbyn machine. He knows that until Corbyn/McDonnell are defeated at a general election there is little point taking on Corbynism
    Chuka will be worth a punt once any of the pre-requisites come to pass, and not before. But for me he is "the field" - if you'd laid him now would be a good point to even out.
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    JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    kle4 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Good news PBers. I've written a thread on AV that will be published either tomorrow or Friday. It's not a magnum opus though, a very brief piece.

    I don't know that I can trust your own judgement on whether this AV piece will be your magnum opus or not. Perhaps you could list them all and we could vote on our favourites in some kind of run off.
    :)
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    MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Good news PBers. I've written a thread on AV that will be published either tomorrow or Friday. It's not a magnum opus though, a very brief piece.


    Is it?

    "The EU referendum should have been held under AV. Discuss".

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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    Jobabob said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    surbiton said:

    "It’s Clive Lewisn’t a member of the shadow cabinet anymore and becomes favourite to succeed Corbyn"

    Translation, please.

    It's one of my very very subtle puns.
    I assumed it was a typo!
    I always end up writing "withe" rather than "with the" although I don't do it typing.
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    FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    A general election with Corbyn would be something to behold.
    The theme tune would be Eiffel 65
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,930
    edited February 2017
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

    That is the only way I can see him going.

    McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?
    If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.
    Well McDonnell would be nice from a betting PoV. But it'd be frying pan/fire stuff so far as midland marginals go in particular.

    @SouthamObserver is spot on about the IRA stuff in Brum.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,501
    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

    That is the only way I can see him going.

    McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?
    If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.
    Well McDonnell would be nice from a betting PoV. But it'd be frying pan/fire stuff so far as midland marginals go in particular.
    I think the PLP, correctly in my view, think that McDonnell doesn't gird the loins of the Labour party members in the way Corbyn does.
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    SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 20,637
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

    That is the only way I can see him going.

    McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?
    If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.
    And if that preferred choice is Abbot?
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

    That is the only way I can see him going.

    McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?
    If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.
    Well McDonnell would be nice from a betting PoV. But it'd be frying pan/fire stuff so far as midland marginals go in particular.
    He's more effective. Like Trump, Corbyn's position on issues only goes from poor to truly terrible by virtue of the complete cock-up being made.

    However, fundamentally Labour cannot win from the left, so five more years of McDonnell - though better - would still be bad for the party.
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    JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

    That is the only way I can see him going.

    McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?
    If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.
    Depends on who that person was, surely? McDonnell would be even worse. He is like Corbyn but without the charm.
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    FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    GarethoftheVale2 said:

    I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Tom Watson as next Labour leader:

    - Could bridge the gap between the Corbynistas and Blairites
    - Cosy with UNITE
    - Politically savvy
    - Already has a mandate as deputy leader

    - Called Gove a 'miserable pipsqueak' in the Commons chamber
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,501
    SandyRentool said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

    That is the only way I can see him going.

    McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?
    If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.
    And if that preferred choice is Abbot?
    Then some PB thread writer who tipped and backed Diane Abbott as next Labour leader at 120/1 would become even more smugger* than usual.

    *Yes, I know it ain't a word.
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Jobabob said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    surbiton said:

    "It’s Clive Lewisn’t a member of the shadow cabinet anymore and becomes favourite to succeed Corbyn"

    Translation, please.

    It's one of my very very subtle puns.
    I assumed it was a typo!
    I always end up writing "withe" rather than "with the" although I don't do it typing.
    Whenever I write the name "Duncan" I always seem to write "Dunan". My theory is that when I write the "c" my brain thinks it's the start of the "a" and just carries on.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 91,811
    Jobabob said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

    That is the only way I can see him going.

    McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?
    If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.
    Depends on who that person was, surely? McDonnell would be even worse. He is like Corbyn but without the charm.
    He seems more authoritative and convincing on TV.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,930
    SandyRentool said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

    That is the only way I can see him going.

    McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?
    If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.
    And if that preferred choice is Abbot?
    I never got on those Labour sub 20% bets. I'll be regretting that if its Abbot. Anyway she doesn't have the necessary 'equipment' to become leader.
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    Freggles said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    A general election with Corbyn would be something to behold.
    The theme tune would be Eiffel 65
    Who's going to die in Aberdeen?
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,030
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    HYUFD said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    £850 looking to back Chuka at 27/1

    I'm guessing someone on here who laid him right out before

    Chuka is worth a punt, he is sensibly staying out of it at the moment and letting Lewis be the latest kamikaze to take on the Corbyn machine. He knows that until Corbyn/McDonnell are defeated at a general election there is little point taking on Corbynism
    Chuka will be worth a punt once any of the pre-requisites come to pass, and not before. But for me he is "the field" - if you'd laid him now would be a good point to even out.
    Yes, this is the time to back him
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,030
    edited February 2017
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

    That is the only way I can see him going.

    McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?
    If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.
    Well McDonnell would be nice from a betting PoV. But it'd be frying pan/fire stuff so far as midland marginals go in particular.
    I think the PLP, correctly in my view, think that McDonnell doesn't gird the loins of the Labour party members in the way Corbyn does.
    He could be Michael Howard to Corbyn's IDS
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    Sean_FSean_F Posts: 35,850
    GarethoftheVale2 said:

    I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Tom Watson as next Labour leader:

    - Could bridge the gap between the Corbynistas and Blairites
    - Cosy with UNITE
    - Politically savvy
    - Already has a mandate as deputy leader

    Pig Ugly.
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    JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    SandyRentool said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

    That is the only way I can see him going.

    McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?
    If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.
    And if that preferred choice is Abbot?
    Abbott and McDonnell would be no-can-dos.

    They might accept Rebecca Long-Bailey on the basis that she is working class and female and therefore has no chance of winning with the three quidders.
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    FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    ThreeQuidder said:

    Freggles said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    A general election with Corbyn would be something to behold.
    The theme tune would be Eiffel 65
    Who's going to die in Aberdeen?
    Scotland would have their own election as an independent country :)
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388
    Pulpstar said:

    SandyRentool said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

    That is the only way I can see him going.

    McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?
    If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.
    And if that preferred choice is Abbot?
    I never got on those Labour sub 20% bets. I'll be regretting that if its Abbot. Anyway she doesn't have the necessary 'equipment' to become leader.
    I don't recall any of those odds being remotely close to value.
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    RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 27,262
    Is there a market on who replaces Clive at Shadow Business? I'm hearing Ed Milliband...
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,501
    Pulpstar said:

    SandyRentool said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

    That is the only way I can see him going.

    McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?
    If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.
    And if that preferred choice is Abbot?
    I never got on those Labour sub 20% bets. I'll be regretting that if its Abbot. Anyway she doesn't have the necessary 'equipment' to become leader.
    Wut? I tipped it in a thread header at 10/1 :lol:
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 75,930
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    SandyRentool said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

    That is the only way I can see him going.

    McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?
    If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.
    And if that preferred choice is Abbot?
    I never got on those Labour sub 20% bets. I'll be regretting that if its Abbot. Anyway she doesn't have the necessary 'equipment' to become leader.
    I don't recall any of those odds being remotely close to value.
    In reality UKIP simply hasn't shown enough strength to make Labour look like they're heading sub 20.
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    welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,460
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Good news PBers. I've written a thread on AV that will be published either tomorrow or Friday. It's not a magnum opus though, a very brief piece.

    They're 14th in the Championship. About covers AV methinks.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @jeremycorbyn: Real fight starts now. Over next two years Labour will use every opportunity to ensure Brexit protects jobs, living standards & the economy.

    @NicolaSturgeon: How? You've just handed the Tories a blank cheque. You didn't win a single concession but still voted for the Bill. Pathetic. twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/s…
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    RochdalePioneers said:

    Is there a market on who replaces Clive at Shadow Business? I'm hearing Ed Milliband...

    Watch out BrightHouse...calls for an independent judge led inquiry will be along shortly.
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    JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    HYUFD said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

    That is the only way I can see him going.

    McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?
    If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.
    Well McDonnell would be nice from a betting PoV. But it'd be frying pan/fire stuff so far as midland marginals go in particular.
    I think the PLP, correctly in my view, think that McDonnell doesn't gird the loins of the Labour party members in the way Corbyn does.
    He could be Michael Howard to Corbyn's IDS
    A better comparison would be IDS to Corbyn's Billy Hague.
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    JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    Scott_P said:

    @jeremycorbyn: Real fight starts now. Over next two years Labour will use every opportunity to ensure Brexit protects jobs, living standards & the economy.

    @NicolaSturgeon: How? You've just handed the Tories a blank cheque. You didn't win a single concession but still voted for the Bill. Pathetic. twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/s…

    Wee Nicky on form as usual.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,501
    Jobabob said:

    Scott_P said:

    @jeremycorbyn: Real fight starts now. Over next two years Labour will use every opportunity to ensure Brexit protects jobs, living standards & the economy.

    @NicolaSturgeon: How? You've just handed the Tories a blank cheque. You didn't win a single concession but still voted for the Bill. Pathetic. twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/s…

    Wee Nicky on form as usual.
    Some of us thought the real fight began prior to June 23rd 2016.
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    peter_from_putneypeter_from_putney Posts: 6,875
    "Told Diane Abbott sat on the frontbench for some time, before Keith Vaz took her by the arm to go and vote. You couldn't make this stuff up."

    Beautifully choreographed no doubt, having involved umpteen rehearsals.
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    HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 117,030
    Jobabob said:

    HYUFD said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

    That is the only way I can see him going.

    McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?
    If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.
    Well McDonnell would be nice from a betting PoV. But it'd be frying pan/fire stuff so far as midland marginals go in particular.
    I think the PLP, correctly in my view, think that McDonnell doesn't gird the loins of the Labour party members in the way Corbyn does.
    He could be Michael Howard to Corbyn's IDS
    A better comparison would be IDS to Corbyn's Billy Hague.
    No, Ed Miliband was Hague
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    rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 54,012
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Intel To Invest $7 Billion in Factory in Arizona, Employ 3,000 People

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/08/trump-meets-intel-ceo-brian-krzanich.html

    5...4..3..2...1...Trump tweet

    The amusing bit about that plant is that almost none of $7bn will go to American companies. ASML in the Netherlands will supply the lithography, etc etc
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Mississippi considering firing squad as alternative to lethal injections

    http://news.sky.com/story/mississippi-considering-firing-squad-as-alternative-to-lethal-injections-10760701
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    https://twitter.com/huffingtonpost/status/829446683876548608
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    JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Jobabob said:

    Scott_P said:

    @jeremycorbyn: Real fight starts now. Over next two years Labour will use every opportunity to ensure Brexit protects jobs, living standards & the economy.

    @NicolaSturgeon: How? You've just handed the Tories a blank cheque. You didn't win a single concession but still voted for the Bill. Pathetic. twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/s…

    Wee Nicky on form as usual.
    Some of us thought the real fight began prior to June 23rd 2016.
    Bravo. Quite right. Corbyn really is a pathetic joke.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    Reports of a large explosion on the Paris metro. Initial report is electrical fault.
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Jobabob said:

    Scott_P said:

    @jeremycorbyn: Real fight starts now. Over next two years Labour will use every opportunity to ensure Brexit protects jobs, living standards & the economy.

    @NicolaSturgeon: How? You've just handed the Tories a blank cheque. You didn't win a single concession but still voted for the Bill. Pathetic. twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/s…

    Wee Nicky on form as usual.
    Some of us thought the real fight began prior to June 23rd 2016.
    Began, was fought and won.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,343
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Good news PBers. I've written a thread on AV that will be published either tomorrow or Friday. It's not a magnum opus though, a very brief piece.

    AV referendum, 2011:

    No 2 AV: 68%
    Yes 2 AV: 32%

    :innocent:
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,501
    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/829450087294259200
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    ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Reports of a large explosion on the Paris metro. Initial report is electrical fault.

    Shit.

    That was exactly what they said on 7/7.
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    JobabobJobabob Posts: 3,807
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Reports of a large explosion on the Paris metro. Initial report is electrical fault.

    Oh god. Now you have done it. The entire thread will now be taken up by frothing nutters speculating about the name of the electrician.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    ThreeQuidder said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Reports of a large explosion on the Paris metro. Initial report is electrical fault.

    Shit.

    That was exactly what they said on 7/7.
    Let's not jump to conclusions.
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,322
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/829450087294259200

    I thought that most of the whips/shepherds were running free tonight and voting the other way.
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,343
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    I've taken 989/1 on Chris Leslie in this market :) how about that for a long shot!

    Probably about right for Chris Leslie lol - you'll never see that £2 again I'm afraid :>
    I'm prepared to get another £2 on Wes Streeting if anyone wants it.
    My local MP :)
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,080
    DavidL said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/829450087294259200

    I thought that most of the whips/shepherds were running free tonight and voting the other way.
    Corbyn made the mistake of appointing masochists instead of sadists.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,080
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Reports of a large explosion on the Paris metro. Initial report is electrical fault.

    Seems to be a minor incident. 2 lightly injured.

    https://twitter.com/AnneLaureBanse/status/829451916543348737
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    DixieDixie Posts: 1,221
    Pulpstar said:

    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    SandyRentool said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Pulpstar said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    It feels like a matter of when not if Corbyn goes before the general election.

    Well Lewis needs to challenge him, and win first.

    That is the only way I can see him going.

    McDonnell ain't going to get enough noms, mastermind and 33 others can't be that thick - or can they xD ?
    If you told the PLP 'Corbyn agrees to step down as leader now if you agree to nominate his preferred choice as leader' they'd agree to it in a heartbeat.
    And if that preferred choice is Abbot?
    I never got on those Labour sub 20% bets. I'll be regretting that if its Abbot. Anyway she doesn't have the necessary 'equipment' to become leader.
    I don't recall any of those odds being remotely close to value.
    In reality UKIP simply hasn't shown enough strength to make Labour look like they're heading sub 20.
    they won't even be sub 25. No alternatives, Union power, dim loyal voters
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/829450959864659970
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    Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 49,343
    LEAVE 494
    REMAIN 122

    :innocent:
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,322
    Leicester have finally remembered what to do with that weird round thing the other side have been insisting on kicking about for the last few months.
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