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If he's losing the support of Diane Abbott then the end is nigh for Corbyn. https://t.co/YDmVVSw0Pc pic.twitter.com/bqU6aCoOOk
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Normally, Labour wouldn't be able to select a new leader that fast, but with the pressure of an impending election the party might informally agree on a single candidate who'd be elected unopposed.
Who would have predicted that, in the aftermath of the EU referendum, there would be a united Tory party (Ken Clarke excepted) and a split down the middle Labour Party? Rather amusing all the same.
While TSE is the Liberal Democrat I most admire on this board, I cannot support his premise. Diane will go down with the good ship Corbyn.
As you all know, I have long been an admirer of Ms. Abbott's heady mixture of principled politics, inclusiveness and intellectual rigour. I have no doubt that when she asserts she had a migraine she is being as truthful as she always is.
Just saying ....
I think Abbott pulling a sicky has more to do with saving her own skin, than lack of support for Jeremy. Also doubt there’ll be any comeback as a result and she’ll continue to merrily ride pillion to Corbyn’s leadership.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/married-nigel-farage-pictured-hand-in-hand-3646619
"I'm just a normal person who is extremely disappointed not to get a knighthood"
- David Beckham
Your answer would make sense for the Tories, Liberal Democrats or even the Greens, but looking for sanity among the Labour left right now is like searching through Stalin's speeches for the complimentary things he said about the kulaks.
Is that a genuine Beckham quote?
On-topic: perhaps. But this is a been-and-gone issue, is it not? Very important, but it's near certain to go through. Corbyn might just let Abbott claim she was touring East Germany and couldn't make it back in time.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
President Trump is setting the bar for mendacity high this year.
If May tried to call an election, I expect that Labour would try to block it and if successful in doing so, the wake-up call it would represent might well propel them to force Corbyn out immediately afterwards,as long as no challenge went off half-cock during the period when an electioh was a possibility.
But if they fail and an election is called, it'd be Corbyn to lead.
In any case, how would a brand new leader fight an election campaign with literally no preparation of their own and with Corbyn's personnel in place?
The problem with the hypothesis however is that Diane Abbott was on radio 4 on the day of the vote defending Labour's the three line whip for all she was worth. I know she's not averse to the odd porkie but to say "If we went against the will of the people we would never be trusted again" was not an obfuscation..
What an odd expression "out on his ear" is btw, must remember to Google its origin.
https://twitter.com/paul1singh/status/828155629479018496
*A three hour standard wait is stupid, but you know what I mean.
https://www.change.org/p/british-government-remove-sadiq-khan-as-mayor-of-london?recruiter=49046222&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=share_twitter_responsive
The more ardent Leavers will no doubt hasten to sign it.
Khan was democratically elected, though his disapproval of healthy women in bikinis in adverts is pathetic pandering to the insecure.
Mr. Alistair, 'twas a fantastic win for Scotland. I was worried they'd do what they normally do (go down to gutsy defeat), and was rather pleased, and surprised, when they instead achieved gutsy victory.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/feb/04/may-abandons-home-owning-democracy-thatcher-tories
By the end of the year we may well see what Red Brexit looks like, as the alternative to Mrs Mays Bosses Brexit.
Jezza will not be forced out. He will go at a time of his own choosing, probably after the new boundaries are through. In the meantime Labour will have a new generation selected by local people on local issues, like Gill Troughton in Copeland. This bodes well for the party in the longer term.
This was all under Obama; who knows how things will change.
Also why "humiliated"? I was certainly "irritated" and "frustrated" but not "humiliated" - either the press is exagerrating or he is a very weak-willed individual. I suspect it isn't the latter...
Also, many people last year tipped Macron (I got on at 13). He's now layable at 2.4 on Betfair. I think I'm going to cover off my stake.
Edited extra bit: hmm, or could back Le Pen at 3.5 and Fillon at 8 to try and go all green that way. Decisions, decisions...
The guy at Chicago, on the other hand, was rude and dribbled egg from the sandwich he was eating all over my passport.
President Trump is quickly finding out the difference between campaigning on twitter and governing in a democracy with appropriate checks and balances.
What's needed, I think, is more scope for gradual retirement. Both employment markets and the pensions system really assume that either you're retired or you're not, and a gradual transition is difficult except for us self-employed types.
But as TSE points out it was also useful timing like a certain Huntingdon MP's dental work. For all that the last remaining acolytes try and defend it the Labour position on Europe is grossly stupid:
1. We represent the 40 most remain and 40 most leave seats. A free vote on triggering A50 followed by a whipped process once A50 is triggered to get a "what next" position is what any leader would have done. Its not just losing seats to UKIP we need to worry about, its also leaving marginal remain seats to the LibDems
2. We have published our "demands" on the A50 bill. But its only the bill to trigger A50, not the actual negotiation. And what do we want from the actual negotiation? Having triggered the process to leave the EU our position is what? The Tories and UKIP want economic catastrophe, the LibDems want to remain, the SNP want to at least retain EEA membership, I have no idea what Labour want.
3. In having no published policy on where we go after leaving - the list of "protect jobs and rights" demands being utterly irrelevant without context" - dooms this party to be torn apart from left and right. Never mind that the Labour Party in its current form won't survive Corbyn, the United Kingdom won't survive hard brexit either and our gross incompetence aids and abets this calamity
So yes. Diane Abbott can't stomach Corbyn's idiocy. She needs - to retain the John Major analogy - to put up or shut up. Denounce him for the useless shit that he is, or carry on not caring as her seat is safe anyway. As for who replaces Corbyn, I genuinely have no idea. Abbott would have been "perfect" for the cultists if she wasn't now seen as "soft". Previous favourites like Clive Lewis and Lisa Nandy have long departed, McDonnell doesn't want it. And that leaves...
EMILY THORNBERRY
Fillon may revive and Macron not make the final.
Fillon vs Macron would be an interesting second round, LePen will get routed if she makes the final, but Macron vs Fillon would be a very interesting decision for the future of France.
I will have to work on if I want to live where I am. Its probably a good problem for me to have.., I need work or something to fill my day, I'd be bored stiff v soon without it.
I agree, the abolition of compulsory retirement has been a liberation for many. Some have to work to make ends meet, but many of us choose to.
As for the next leader - Thornberry will need the nominations. She won't get 35. If the McDonnell amendment goes through, there will be several candidates from the left. One thing is now clear: Corbyn will not get to annoint his successor.
Gradual retirement, Mr P, is fine if you can do it. I did, but got to a state where paying professional fees and insurance took me into May or so before I was earning anything for me. Plus the tax situation, given that some of my various pensions had to be drawn at 65.
If that isn’t a problem, fine.
What happened then, when I actually stopped altogether, though.was my previous good health ..... hardly ever a day off work etc ...... stopped and at least every year something else went wrong or neeeded treatment. Often time-consuming treatment.
Worryingly England have the look of a team that carves out a win whilst looking second best for much of the match .... rather like Donald Trump ....
Excellent use there of a gratuitous and completely unfair coupling of a grudgingly respected winner and POTUS ....
Trumps attempt to re-instate the Tavel Ban fails in the Federal Appeal Court!
I agree with you entirely on gradual retirement. For those committed to their careers, without much of a hinterland, an abrupt cutoff can leave them utterly confused. On the other side of the coin, retaining the institutional memory of older employees can be a significant benefit.
I have successfully employed a part time company secretary well into his seventies.
what on Earth is the question?
So, evidence suggests we will lose both seats. At which point even my Momentum friends think Corbyn will have to go. In departing he will probably take 100k members out of the party which is bad financially but good on all other considerations.
And yes, its then which MPs will get the nominations and bugger the cultists in the membership. Who wants it? Starmer has impressed a lot of people. Clive Lewis? Angela Rayner? Yvette Cooper again?
There’s a lot of fascinating ‘stuff’ to be found at the local WEA........ known in our area as the Wrinklies Educational Association !
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/05/trump-not-fascist-champion-for-forgotten-millions
I can't wait for the comments
He doesn't strike me as the type to give up on this, and given the reach of presidential powers - not least in judicial appointment - I fear not so much for which way this particular battle turns out, but more for the long term damage he might wreck on the judicial system.
I do agree that Corbyn needs to identify a few key issues that relate to ordinary people, and he can be thoroughly controversial about them (he will not win votes by trying to seem a centrist). Maximuim wage, nationalise the railways, Crossrail 3 in the north funded by borrowing, and more needed. Putting up tax by 1p for standard and 2p for higher rate to fund the NHS and social care properly would be my favourite - would cause a hell of a fuss but I think significantly more than our current 30% would go for it.
I'll sign off for today - be good, children.
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