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I like this spoof English Heritage plaque which is doing the rounds in Stoke Central pic.twitter.com/tFJbR2xu9n
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Can I ask, what exactly was the rationale for thinking Paul Nutall was "Labour's nightmare"? Was it ONLY that he had a Northern accent? Do the commentariat really have such a patronising view of Northerners that they thought that would be enough to sway it?0
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My favourite was when Stoke was described as a Northern seat.Danny565 said:Can I ask, what exactly was the rationale for thinking Paul Nutall was "Labour's nightmare"? Was it ONLY that he had a Northern accent? Do the commentariat really have such a patronising view of Northerners that they thought that would be enough to sway it?
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A Douglas!0
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Anyone with a modicum of common sense would think that he had rented the place but not moved in yet. So what?0
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Well the rozzers are involved now, coupled with Nuttall one of eight UKIP MEPs who may have to pay back half million quid for misusing EU parliament funds, you can see how their opponents might portray UKIP as sleazy.
Will it shift any votes? Three weeks to find out.0 -
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Why were the Letting Agency still saying it was available to let yesterday?isam said:Anyone with a modicum of common sense would think that he had rented the place but not moved in yet. So what?
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Useless as there is no time frame.Scott_P said:0 -
Well I would say it is. If he had signed a tenancy agreement on the property when he called it his home, then it is his home.RobD said:
Then it isn't his home?isam said:Anyone with a modicum of common sense would think that he had rented the place but not moved in yet. So what?
Desperate stuff from Labour, makes me think they've seen more bad polling for their man.0 -
Though Nuttall was going to be disqualified as MEP in two years anyway.0
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You reckon he nipped in and rented it yesterday to back up his deceit, having never heard of the gaffe before?!!bigjohnowls said:
Why were the Letting Agency still saying it was available to let yesterday?isam said:Anyone with a modicum of common sense would think that he had rented the place but not moved in yet. So what?
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https://twitter.com/MichaelLCrick/status/826811597687496704RobD said:
Then it isn't his home?isam said:Anyone with a modicum of common sense would think that he had rented the place but not moved in yet. So what?
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No he told Crick yesterday he had never even been there.isam said:
You reckon he nipped in and rented it yesterday to back up his deceit, having never heard of the gaffe before?!!bigjohnowls said:
Why were the Letting Agency still saying it was available to let yesterday?isam said:Anyone with a modicum of common sense would think that he had rented the place but not moved in yet. So what?
So doubtful he nipped in.0 -
Evening all.
Phil Woolas was the last MP to ‘kicked out by the courts’ - and was the first MP in 99 years.0 -
But obviously he had rented the place when he signed the nomination. You don't honestly think he hadn't, taking an almighty risk that someone else rented it in the meantime?bigjohnowls said:
No he told Crick yesterday he had never even been there.isam said:
You reckon he nipped in and rented it yesterday to back up his deceit, having never heard of the gaffe before?!!bigjohnowls said:
Why were the Letting Agency still saying it was available to let yesterday?isam said:Anyone with a modicum of common sense would think that he had rented the place but not moved in yet. So what?
So doubtful he nipped in.
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So it wasn't his home when he signed the form? As TSE's tweet above maintains, it is where you are habitually resident.isam said:
But obviously he had rented the place when he signed the nomination. You don't honestly think he hadn't, taking an almighty risk that someone else rented it in the meantime?bigjohnowls said:
No he told Crick yesterday he had never even been there.isam said:
You reckon he nipped in and rented it yesterday to back up his deceit, having never heard of the gaffe before?!!bigjohnowls said:
Why were the Letting Agency still saying it was available to let yesterday?isam said:Anyone with a modicum of common sense would think that he had rented the place but not moved in yet. So what?
So doubtful he nipped in.
Is that what you think?!
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His was the expenses in the expenses scandal that had me traumatised the most.SimonStClare said:Evening all.
Phil Woolas was the last MP to ‘kicked out by the courts’ - and was the first MP in 99 years.
He claimed tampons on his expenses, I was curious why a man would buy and claim tampons on his expenses.
Then someone explained to me what certain men do with tampons for sexual gratification.
I hate Phil Woolas.0 -
Michael Crick @MichaelLCrick Feb 1
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Inside the empty Stoke house which Paul Nuttall claimed is his "home", and which will appear on ballot papers as such0 -
If the period for objections was over, and no-one objected then his nomination as candidate is accepted, surely.
So to report it to the police as fraud, you would have to show he intended to deceive, but if that was where he going to be living, I can't see that flying.
Thoughts only, IANAL etc.
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Seems that I am a bloke with a parking ticket talking to a room of traffic wardens!!RobD said:
So it wasn't his home when he signed the form? As TSE's tweet above maintains, it is where you are habitually resident.isam said:
But obviously he had rented the place when he signed the nomination. You don't honestly think he hadn't, taking an almighty risk that someone else rented it in the meantime?bigjohnowls said:
No he told Crick yesterday he had never even been there.isam said:
You reckon he nipped in and rented it yesterday to back up his deceit, having never heard of the gaffe before?!!bigjohnowls said:
Why were the Letting Agency still saying it was available to let yesterday?isam said:Anyone with a modicum of common sense would think that he had rented the place but not moved in yet. So what?
So doubtful he nipped in.
Is that what you think?!0 -
Cosy... https://order-order.com/2017/02/02/inside-paul-nuttalls-stoke-bedroom/bigjohnowls said:Michael Crick @MichaelLCrick Feb 1
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Inside the empty Stoke house which Paul Nuttall claimed is his "home", and which will appear on ballot papers as such0 -
From what I've read on election law, the term that gets bandied about a lot is 'knowingly'MarkHopkins said:
If the period for objections was over, and no-one objected then his nomination as candidate is accepted, surely.
So to report it to the police as fraud, you would have to show he intended to deceive, but if that was where he going to be living, I can't see that flying.
Thoughts only, IANAL etc.
Is this something he has knowingly filled in incorrectly or not.
How many people don't know where they live?0 -
Michael Crick @MichaelLCrick 49m49 minutes agoisam said:
But obviously he had rented the place when he signed the nomination. You don't honestly think he hadn't, taking an almighty risk that someone else rented it in the meantime?bigjohnowls said:
No he told Crick yesterday he had never even been there.isam said:
You reckon he nipped in and rented it yesterday to back up his deceit, having never heard of the gaffe before?!!bigjohnowls said:
Why were the Letting Agency still saying it was available to let yesterday?isam said:Anyone with a modicum of common sense would think that he had rented the place but not moved in yet. So what?
So doubtful he nipped in.
Is that what you think?!
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Michael Crick Retweeted Guido Fawkes
#emptyhousegate Paul Nuttall cld move whole family in, & live there for rest of life, but he'd never been there when nominated. So broke law0 -
Probably make him a hero as the establishment attempt to derail himTheScreamingEagles said:Well the rozzers are involved now, coupled with Nuttall one of eight UKIP MEPs who may have to pay back half million quid for misusing EU parliament funds, you can see how their opponents might portray UKIP as sleazy.
Will it shift any votes? Three weeks to find out.0 -
Wasn't it a Leave.EU poll? Vote Leave no longer exists.0
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Nuttall none story!!!0
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Please: don't mix up Cummings and Banks.Essexit said:Wasn't it a Leave.EU poll? Vote Leave no longer exists.
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Not as much as you think.isam said:
Seems that I am a bloke with a parking ticket talking to a room of traffic wardens!!RobD said:
So it wasn't his home when he signed the form? As TSE's tweet above maintains, it is where you are habitually resident.isam said:
But obviously he had rented the place when he signed the nomination. You don't honestly think he hadn't, taking an almighty risk that someone else rented it in the meantime?bigjohnowls said:
No he told Crick yesterday he had never even been there.isam said:
You reckon he nipped in and rented it yesterday to back up his deceit, having never heard of the gaffe before?!!bigjohnowls said:
Why were the Letting Agency still saying it was available to let yesterday?isam said:Anyone with a modicum of common sense would think that he had rented the place but not moved in yet. So what?
So doubtful he nipped in.
Is that what you think?!
Everyone else is just channeling their inner ScottnPaste by retweeting Michael Crick stuff.0 -
Crick's photograph through the letter box is particularly creepy though. Are journalists allowed/supposed to do that?0
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Um, they eat them?TheScreamingEagles said:
Then someone explained to me what certain men do with tampons for sexual gratification.
I hate Phil Woolas.0 -
"I'm a UKIP party member, m'lud. Facts confuse me."TheScreamingEagles said:
From what I've read on election law, the term that gets bandied about a lot is 'knowingly'MarkHopkins said:
If the period for objections was over, and no-one objected then his nomination as candidate is accepted, surely.
So to report it to the police as fraud, you would have to show he intended to deceive, but if that was where he going to be living, I can't see that flying.
Thoughts only, IANAL etc.
Is this something he has knowingly filled in incorrectly or not.
How many people don't know where they live?
"Case dismissed."0 -
Fixed it now. TaEssexit said:Wasn't it a Leave.EU poll? Vote Leave no longer exists.
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TBF I hope Nuttall does remain UKIPs Stoke Candidate his NHS quotes are completely toxic0
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Can you fix the other mistakes as well? 'MEP' 'the policy have been called in' etc..TheScreamingEagles said:
Fixed it now. TaEssexit said:Wasn't it a Leave.EU poll? Vote Leave no longer exists.
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The really creepy weirdos make tv adverts about them.TheScreamingEagles said:
Then someone explained to me what certain men do with tampons for sexual gratification.
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TBH I think that was exactly the rationale.Danny565 said:Can I ask, what exactly was the rationale for thinking Paul Nutall was "Labour's nightmare"? Was it ONLY that he had a Northern accent? Do the commentariat really have such a patronising view of Northerners that they thought that would be enough to sway it?
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Not much of a defence as he has a Doctorate.Animal_pb said:
"I'm a UKIP party member, m'lud. Facts confuse me."TheScreamingEagles said:
From what I've read on election law, the term that gets bandied about a lot is 'knowingly'MarkHopkins said:
If the period for objections was over, and no-one objected then his nomination as candidate is accepted, surely.
So to report it to the police as fraud, you would have to show he intended to deceive, but if that was where he going to be living, I can't see that flying.
Thoughts only, IANAL etc.
Is this something he has knowingly filled in incorrectly or not.
How many people don't know where they live?
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Now, are we sure he meant to say that? Or did he just mean he's been to see a doctor?TheScreamingEagles said:
Not much of a defence as he has a Doctorate.Animal_pb said:
"I'm a UKIP party member, m'lud. Facts confuse me."TheScreamingEagles said:
From what I've read on election law, the term that gets bandied about a lot is 'knowingly'MarkHopkins said:
If the period for objections was over, and no-one objected then his nomination as candidate is accepted, surely.
So to report it to the police as fraud, you would have to show he intended to deceive, but if that was where he going to be living, I can't see that flying.
Thoughts only, IANAL etc.
Is this something he has knowingly filled in incorrectly or not.
How many people don't know where they live?
"Case dismissed."0 -
LOL, you can be quite subtly bitchy when you want to be.Richard_Nabavi said:
Can you fix the other mistakes as well? 'MEP' 'the policy have been called in' etc..TheScreamingEagles said:
Fixed it now. TaEssexit said:Wasn't it a Leave.EU poll? Vote Leave no longer exists.
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Welcome. And according to Left Foot Forward (not my usual news source, you'll be amazed to hear), it's very far from a proper survey. No methodology released but a rather brave claim of a sample size of 4,000 for a constituency poll. https://leftfootforward.org/2017/02/fake-news-leave-eu-publishes-junk-poll-calling-stoke-by-election-for-ukip/TheScreamingEagles said:
Fixed it now. TaEssexit said:Wasn't it a Leave.EU poll? Vote Leave no longer exists.
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I've fixed the policy one, what's the MEP one.Richard_Nabavi said:
Can you fix the other mistakes as well? 'MEP' 'the policy have been called in' etc..TheScreamingEagles said:
Fixed it now. TaEssexit said:Wasn't it a Leave.EU poll? Vote Leave no longer exists.
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UKIP politicians up to their necks in fraudulent practices? I understand Pope Francis is not an Anglican too.0
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Cameron used "Left Foot Forward" in a PMQs dig at Miliband IIRCEssexit said:
Welcome. And according to Left Foot Forward (not my usual news source, you'll be amazed to hear), it's very far from a proper survey. No methodology released but a rather brave claim of a sample size of 4,000 for a constituency poll. https://leftfootforward.org/2017/02/fake-news-leave-eu-publishes-junk-poll-calling-stoke-by-election-for-ukip/TheScreamingEagles said:
Fixed it now. TaEssexit said:Wasn't it a Leave.EU poll? Vote Leave no longer exists.
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This wouldn't disqualify him as an MEP, right?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've fixed the policy one, what's the MEP one.Richard_Nabavi said:
Can you fix the other mistakes as well? 'MEP' 'the policy have been called in' etc..TheScreamingEagles said:
Fixed it now. TaEssexit said:Wasn't it a Leave.EU poll? Vote Leave no longer exists.
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I think the penultimate para and the sub-title should be 'barred from being an MP.' (Of course he might be barred from being an MEP as well!).TheScreamingEagles said:
I've fixed the policy one, what's the MEP one.Richard_Nabavi said:
Can you fix the other mistakes as well? 'MEP' 'the policy have been called in' etc..TheScreamingEagles said:
Fixed it now. TaEssexit said:Wasn't it a Leave.EU poll? Vote Leave no longer exists.
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As an impartial observer told me today, so far the only public polls in Stoke have UKIP ahead is a facebook poll of 170 odd voters and this without any detail.Essexit said:
Welcome. And according to Left Foot Forward (not my usual news source, you'll be amazed to hear), it's very far from a proper survey. No methodology released but a rather brave claim of a sample size of 4,000 for a constituency poll. https://leftfootforward.org/2017/02/fake-news-leave-eu-publishes-junk-poll-calling-stoke-by-election-for-ukip/TheScreamingEagles said:
Fixed it now. TaEssexit said:Wasn't it a Leave.EU poll? Vote Leave no longer exists.
Plus it ain't a phone poll, there's no way you can phone poll 4,000 people in one constituency.0 -
Yes, because the punishment (IF he was found guilty) would be bans from ALL elected offices, I think.ThreeQuidder said:
This wouldn't disqualify him as an MEP, right?TheScreamingEagles said:
I've fixed the policy one, what's the MEP one.Richard_Nabavi said:
Can you fix the other mistakes as well? 'MEP' 'the policy have been called in' etc..TheScreamingEagles said:
Fixed it now. TaEssexit said:Wasn't it a Leave.EU poll? Vote Leave no longer exists.
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Never trust anything a letting agent says unless it's written down and signed by them, their manager and at least four reliable witnesses.bigjohnowls said:
Why were the Letting Agency still saying it was available to let yesterday?isam said:Anyone with a modicum of common sense would think that he had rented the place but not moved in yet. So what?
I think Nuttall is in the clear on this tbh.0 -
He could be barred as an MEP too, a election law specialist tweeted that to Mike.Richard_Nabavi said:
I think the penultimate para and the sub-title should be 'barred from being an MP.' (Of course he might be barred from being an MEP as well!).TheScreamingEagles said:
I've fixed the policy one, what's the MEP one.Richard_Nabavi said:
Can you fix the other mistakes as well? 'MEP' 'the policy have been called in' etc..TheScreamingEagles said:
Fixed it now. TaEssexit said:Wasn't it a Leave.EU poll? Vote Leave no longer exists.
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Such bad luck for the UKIP leader - fancy moving in to sleep on a mattress on the floor only just after the story had broken. Clearly, if Crick had left it just a couple more days Mr Nuttall would have been firmly ensconced and it would all be a complete non-story.0
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What about Viscount Stansgate in 1961?SimonStClare said:Evening all.
Phil Woolas was the last MP to ‘kicked out by the courts’ - and was the first MP in 99 years.0 -
Maybe, even though that hardly matters if he has indeed breached the rules, rules which should be perfectly easy to follow. I'm sure if he wins and the win is voided due to the rules he or UKIP will win a followup thanks to backlash against the establishment, but if there is a breach of the rules and it is not challenged, it makes having the rules pointless.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Probably make him a hero as the establishment attempt to derail himTheScreamingEagles said:Well the rozzers are involved now, coupled with Nuttall one of eight UKIP MEPs who may have to pay back half million quid for misusing EU parliament funds, you can see how their opponents might portray UKIP as sleazy.
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This self righteous wankery about how awful left wingers are and how noble right wingers are when it comes to free speach is nauseating.
A left wing protestors was fucking shot in the stomach a couple of weeks ago by a Milo supporting goon.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/25/shooting-milo-yiannopoulos-speech-seattle-charges0 -
Trump fans are great, I loved the silence when I pointed one of Trump's most prominent supporters was going to grab his musket if Hillary won.Alistair said:This self righteous wankery about how awful left wingers are and how noble right wingers are when it comes to free speach is nauseating.
A left wing protestors was fucking shot in the stomach a couple of weeks ago by a Milo supporting goon.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/25/shooting-milo-yiannopoulos-speech-seattle-charges0 -
Careful Richard, I got 9 months for this kind of behaviour!Richard_Nabavi said:
I think the penultimate para and the sub-title should be 'barred from being an MP.' (Of course he might be barred from being an MEP as well!).TheScreamingEagles said:
I've fixed the policy one, what's the MEP one.Richard_Nabavi said:
Can you fix the other mistakes as well? 'MEP' 'the policy have been called in' etc..TheScreamingEagles said:
Fixed it now. TaEssexit said:Wasn't it a Leave.EU poll? Vote Leave no longer exists.
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Doesn't count, Benn never became an MP by being sworn in.Chris_A said:
What about Viscount Stansgate in 1961?SimonStClare said:Evening all.
Phil Woolas was the last MP to ‘kicked out by the courts’ - and was the first MP in 99 years.
Woolas was.0 -
So what are the odds for Farage to become an MP then?
If Nuttall wins and then is disqualified, then there will be another by-election, with every chance the voters will back UKIP again.
So odds: Nuttal win > Nutall barred > Farage stands?
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Putting party politics aside, do you really think this matters? In real life I don't believe I know anyone who would think so, and anyone who admitted they did would get ripped for being a nerd!SouthamObserver said:Such bad luck for the UKIP leader - fancy moving in to sleep on a mattress on the floor only just after the story had broken. Clearly, if Crick had left it just a couple more days Mr Nuttall would have been firmly ensconced and it would all be a complete non-story.
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Depends on another Michael Crick story.MarkHopkins said:
So what are the odds for Farage to become an MP then?
If Nuttall wins and then is disqualified, then there will be another by-election, with every chance the voters will back UKIP again.
So odds: Nuttal win > Nutall barred > Farage stands?
We might have a Thanet South by election/rerun with the Tory MP disqualified between then.0 -
But he has lost 6 Westminster elections that he was about 25/1 to win, so he would lose obvsMarkHopkins said:
So what are the odds for Farage to become an MP then?
If Nuttall wins and then is disqualified, then there will be another by-election, with every chance the voters will back UKIP again.
So odds: Nuttal win > Nutall barred > Farage stands?0 -
HE's lost 7 Westminster electionsisam said:
But he has lost 6 Westminster elections that he was about 25/1 to win, so he would lose obvsMarkHopkins said:
So what are the odds for Farage to become an MP then?
If Nuttall wins and then is disqualified, then there will be another by-election, with every chance the voters will back UKIP again.
So odds: Nuttal win > Nutall barred > Farage stands?0 -
Yeah I know, but he wasn't 25/1 to win Thanet SouthMikeSmithson said:
HE's lost 7 Westminster electionsisam said:
But he has lost 6 Westminster elections that he was about 25/1 to win, so he would lose obvsMarkHopkins said:
So what are the odds for Farage to become an MP then?
If Nuttall wins and then is disqualified, then there will be another by-election, with every chance the voters will back UKIP again.
So odds: Nuttal win > Nutall barred > Farage stands?
The "7 losing elections" stat is so misleading. It implies he was likely to win, when until Thanet South in 2015 he was just making up the numbers
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I think it is actually barred from all elected officesRichard_Nabavi said:
I think the penultimate para and the sub-title should be 'barred from being an MP.' (Of course he might be barred from being an MEP as well!).TheScreamingEagles said:
I've fixed the policy one, what's the MEP one.Richard_Nabavi said:
Can you fix the other mistakes as well? 'MEP' 'the policy have been called in' etc..TheScreamingEagles said:
Fixed it now. TaEssexit said:Wasn't it a Leave.EU poll? Vote Leave no longer exists.
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Hasn't Farage rejoined the Tories yet?MarkHopkins said:
So what are the odds for Farage to become an MP then?
If Nuttall wins and then is disqualified, then there will be another by-election, with every chance the voters will back UKIP again.
So odds: Nuttal win > Nutall barred > Farage stands?0 -
In all seriousness, the heart of the question is whether Nuttall does risk having the result overturned, in the event that he wins. I don't claim to be an expert in this, but my understanding is that it's too late to challenge the nomination, so he'll definitely be on the ballot, but it seems that he could be in breach of electoral law if Michael Crick is correct. Much would depend on whether any breach is seen as substantive enough to justify declaring the result void.
In itself, giving a address which is not his home address does sound pretty serious, but if he had already rented the house and was about to move in, perhaps the court would see that as sufficient.
Of course, it may be that Michael Crick is the one who is wrong and it's all fine.0 -
Waiting until Carswell is expelled from UKIP first perhaps?Theuniondivvie said:
Hasn't Farage rejoined the Tories yet?MarkHopkins said:
So what are the odds for Farage to become an MP then?
If Nuttall wins and then is disqualified, then there will be another by-election, with every chance the voters will back UKIP again.
So odds: Nuttal win > Nutall barred > Farage stands?0 -
When someone uses the term "desperate" I read "effective". This is going to hurt.isam said:
Well I would say it is. If he had signed a tenancy agreement on the property when he called it his home, then it is his home.RobD said:
Then it isn't his home?isam said:Anyone with a modicum of common sense would think that he had rented the place but not moved in yet. So what?
Desperate stuff from Labour, makes me think they've seen more bad polling for their man.0 -
A sensible person emerges.Richard_Nabavi said:In all seriousness, the heart of the question is whether Nuttall does risk having the result overturned, in the event that he wins. I don't claim to be an expert in this, but my understanding is that it's too late to challenge the nomination, so he'll definitely be on the ballot, but it seems that he could be in breach of electoral law if Michael Crick is correct. Much would depend on whether any breach is seen as substantive enough to justify declaring the result void.
In itself, giving a address which is not his home address does sound pretty serious, but if he had already rented the house and was about to move in, perhaps the court would see that as sufficient.
Of course, it may be that Michael Crick is the one who is wrong and it's all fine.
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Effective Dan?MikeSmithson said:
When someone uses the term "desperate" I read "effective". This is going to hurt.isam said:
Well I would say it is. If he had signed a tenancy agreement on the property when he called it his home, then it is his home.RobD said:
Then it isn't his home?isam said:Anyone with a modicum of common sense would think that he had rented the place but not moved in yet. So what?
Desperate stuff from Labour, makes me think they've seen more bad polling for their man.
Effective Housewives!!
Effective times call for effective measures...
Reads better as "Desperate" to me
Shall we bet?!0 -
Paging @SeanT - the Cornish Donald Trump:
http://m.plymouthherald.co.uk/watch-cornish-donald-trump-threaten-to-build-a-wall-on-the-tamar-bridge/story-30106778-detail/story.html0 -
Crick is smart enough to have taken that into accountSouthamObserver said:Such bad luck for the UKIP leader - fancy moving in to sleep on a mattress on the floor only just after the story had broken. Clearly, if Crick had left it just a couple more days Mr Nuttall would have been firmly ensconced and it would all be a complete non-story.
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I think you've put your finger on the motivation in the thread header. Why go to this much trouble to pretend to be local, when it's blindingly obvious that you're not?MikeSmithson said:
When someone uses the term "desperate" I read "effective". This is going to hurt.isam said:
Well I would say it is. If he had signed a tenancy agreement on the property when he called it his home, then it is his home.RobD said:
Then it isn't his home?isam said:Anyone with a modicum of common sense would think that he had rented the place but not moved in yet. So what?
Desperate stuff from Labour, makes me think they've seen more bad polling for their man.0 -
Was he ever going to stay there? His home is less than an hour's drive away.SouthamObserver said:Such bad luck for the UKIP leader - fancy moving in to sleep on a mattress on the floor only just after the story had broken. Clearly, if Crick had left it just a couple more days Mr Nuttall would have been firmly ensconced and it would all be a complete non-story.
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I suppose all of Manchester is looking forward to being ruled by an Everton supporter.0
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And played all those games for Tranmere Stoke on Trent RoversTheScreamingEagles said:
Not much of a defence as he has a Doctorate.Animal_pb said:
"I'm a UKIP party member, m'lud. Facts confuse me."TheScreamingEagles said:
From what I've read on election law, the term that gets bandied about a lot is 'knowingly'MarkHopkins said:
If the period for objections was over, and no-one objected then his nomination as candidate is accepted, surely.
So to report it to the police as fraud, you would have to show he intended to deceive, but if that was where he going to be living, I can't see that flying.
Thoughts only, IANAL etc.
Is this something he has knowingly filled in incorrectly or not.
How many people don't know where they live?
"Case dismissed."
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I don't bet with people on the site after losing a lot of money some time ago.isam said:
Effective Dan?MikeSmithson said:
When someone uses the term "desperate" I read "effective". This is going to hurt.isam said:
Well I would say it is. If he had signed a tenancy agreement on the property when he called it his home, then it is his home.RobD said:
Then it isn't his home?isam said:Anyone with a modicum of common sense would think that he had rented the place but not moved in yet. So what?
Desperate stuff from Labour, makes me think they've seen more bad polling for their man.
Effective Housewives!!
Effective times call for effective measures...
Reads better as "Desperate" to me
Shall we bet?!
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They obviously don't know what your average Northerner thinks of Scousers, then.Richard_Nabavi said:
TBH I think that was exactly the rationale.Danny565 said:Can I ask, what exactly was the rationale for thinking Paul Nutall was "Labour's nightmare"? Was it ONLY that he had a Northern accent? Do the commentariat really have such a patronising view of Northerners that they thought that would be enough to sway it?
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About May's commitment from Trump to NATO...
https://twitter.com/tassagency_en/status/8272073968000041040 -
Does anyone understand LeaveEU's methodology .
What does " Our polling method consists of a high volume randomised sample and the use of sophisticated AI social media techniques " actually mean when translated into English .0 -
"We are making it up"?MarkSenior said:Does anyone understand LeaveEU's methodology .
What does " Our polling method consists of a high volume randomised sample and the use of sophisticated AI social media techniques " actually mean when translated into English .0 -
That's your description through purple coloured specs.isam said:
Effective Dan?MikeSmithson said:
When someone uses the term "desperate" I read "effective". This is going to hurt.isam said:
Well I would say it is. If he had signed a tenancy agreement on the property when he called it his home, then it is his home.RobD said:
Then it isn't his home?isam said:Anyone with a modicum of common sense would think that he had rented the place but not moved in yet. So what?
Desperate stuff from Labour, makes me think they've seen more bad polling for their man.
Effective Housewives!!
Effective times call for effective measures...
Reads better as "Desperate" to me
Shall we bet?!
The real problem is that UKIP has so little experience of FPTP elections and it shows.0 -
Most people think breaking the speed limit is fine. But the law is the law. Does it matter? I have no idea.. The interview that Nuttall did with Crick in which he denied everything was quite amusing as he was lying through his teeth, and it does show how amateur an operation UKIP runs. Of course, that would make a Labour defeat even more humiliating for Corbyn.isam said:
Putting party politics aside, do you really think this matters? In real life I don't believe I know anyone who would think so, and anyone who admitted they did would get ripped for being a nerd!SouthamObserver said:Such bad luck for the UKIP leader - fancy moving in to sleep on a mattress on the floor only just after the story had broken. Clearly, if Crick had left it just a couple more days Mr Nuttall would have been firmly ensconced and it would all be a complete non-story.
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Facebook.MarkSenior said:Does anyone understand LeaveEU's methodology .
What does " Our polling method consists of a high volume randomised sample and the use of sophisticated AI social media techniques " actually mean when translated into English .0 -
Ah ok.MikeSmithson said:
I don't bet with people on the site after losing a lot of money some time ago.isam said:
Effective Dan?MikeSmithson said:
When someone uses the term "desperate" I read "effective". This is going to hurt.isam said:
Well I would say it is. If he had signed a tenancy agreement on the property when he called it his home, then it is his home.RobD said:
Then it isn't his home?isam said:Anyone with a modicum of common sense would think that he had rented the place but not moved in yet. So what?
Desperate stuff from Labour, makes me think they've seen more bad polling for their man.
Effective Housewives!!
Effective times call for effective measures...
Reads better as "Desperate" to me
Shall we bet?!
So you think Nuttall will get chucked out if he wins? How do you think that will go down with voters who rejected Brexit & (if he wins) the Labour party?0 -
The more incompetent and feckwitted every single other person seeking to lead or represent Ukip turns out to be, the more impressive Farage's achievement in holding the whole business together for long enough to secure the Euref looks.0
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Purchased X thousand ad impressions on Facebook tagetted at the constituency post code is the best I could come up with.MarkSenior said:Does anyone understand LeaveEU's methodology .
What does " Our polling method consists of a high volume randomised sample and the use of sophisticated AI social media techniques " actually mean when translated into English .
4000 responses though is preposterous.0 -
I think it would play into UKIPs hands if the establishment (which Labour are in Stoke having had the seat forever) try to overturn the result. But maybe notSouthamObserver said:
Most people think breaking the speed limit is fine. But the law is the law. Does it matter? I have no idea.. The interview that Nuttall did with Crick in which he denied everything was quite amusing as he was lying through his teeth, and it does show how amateur an operation UKIP runs. Of course, that would make a Labour defeat even more humiliating for Corbyn.isam said:
Putting party politics aside, do you really think this matters? In real life I don't believe I know anyone who would think so, and anyone who admitted they did would get ripped for being a nerd!SouthamObserver said:Such bad luck for the UKIP leader - fancy moving in to sleep on a mattress on the floor only just after the story had broken. Clearly, if Crick had left it just a couple more days Mr Nuttall would have been firmly ensconced and it would all be a complete non-story.
I am honestly not trying to be argumentative here but I don't see why cars are allowed to go faster than the speed limit! It has always struck me as odd. If the govt really meant it, then don't allow cars that can go quicker than 70mph (obv wouldn't stop people breaking lower speed limits)
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Traffic Wardens in Stoke confirm Paul Nuttall has never received a ticket for illegally parking at his "home"0
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The same as 2nd Viscount Stansgate's turfing out did in 1961 (and he got 70% of the vote) - they'll just put up with it.isam said:
Ah ok.MikeSmithson said:
I don't bet with people on the site after losing a lot of money some time ago.isam said:
Effective Dan?MikeSmithson said:
When someone uses the term "desperate" I read "effective". This is going to hurt.isam said:
Well I would say it is. If he had signed a tenancy agreement on the property when he called it his home, then it is his home.RobD said:
Then it isn't his home?isam said:Anyone with a modicum of common sense would think that he had rented the place but not moved in yet. So what?
Desperate stuff from Labour, makes me think they've seen more bad polling for their man.
Effective Housewives!!
Effective times call for effective measures...
Reads better as "Desperate" to me
Shall we bet?!
So you think Nuttall will get chucked out if he wins? How do you think that will go down with voters who rejected Brexit & (if he wins) the Labour party?
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According to Petrol Prices . com Recent research shows that British drivers waste almost 4 days a year looking for somewhere to park.
Apparently one bloke had to park in Bootle every night until last night even though his home was in Stoke0 -
LOL!bigjohnowls said:According to Petrol Prices . com Recent research shows that British drivers waste almost 4 days a year looking for somewhere to park.
Apparently one bloke had to park in Bootle every night until last night even though his home was in Stoke0 -
But it was the Election Court which put Malcolm St Clair in. And he was a decent Tory who became Steward of the Chiltern Hundreds the moment the Peerage Act was enacted and did not stand in the by-election.TheScreamingEagles said:
Doesn't count, Benn never became an MP by being sworn in.Chris_A said:
What about Viscount Stansgate in 1961?SimonStClare said:Evening all.
Phil Woolas was the last MP to ‘kicked out by the courts’ - and was the first MP in 99 years.
Woolas was.
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The Mayor of London supported Pakistan in the cricket as a boy, hasn't done him any harmdixiedean said:
Much more palatable than an LFC one! And no, Burnham is not a Scouser, he's a woollyback, who serve the useful purpose of preventing us from living next to Scousers!dr_spyn said:I suppose all of Manchester is looking forward to being ruled by an Everton supporter.
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UKIP caused a political earthquake with the aid of a leader, an MP and 12% of the vote.MikeSmithson said:
That's your description through purple coloured specs.isam said:
Effective Dan?MikeSmithson said:
When someone uses the term "desperate" I read "effective". This is going to hurt.isam said:
Well I would say it is. If he had signed a tenancy agreement on the property when he called it his home, then it is his home.RobD said:
Then it isn't his home?isam said:Anyone with a modicum of common sense would think that he had rented the place but not moved in yet. So what?
Desperate stuff from Labour, makes me think they've seen more bad polling for their man.
Effective Housewives!!
Effective times call for effective measures...
Reads better as "Desperate" to me
Shall we bet?!
The real problem is that UKIP has so little experience of FPTP elections and it shows.
With that record, if it now starts campaigning for PR for general elections it should only take another 5-10 years.0 -
Amazing how many UKIP supporters do not believe the rule of law should apply to themradsatser said:For all that I respect Mike and this site, his LibDemmery( and I use that as an insult), comes out in full flood on anything that is more than 0.000001% negative towards UKIP.
This hyper-ventilating bollocks over this apparent crime against democracy , is cringeworthy in the extreme, and worthy of the honorary title of Baby Boomer Snowflake of the Year for MIke.0