politicalbetting.com » Blog Archive » Viewpoint: Tribal Tim Farron attacks Corbyn and lets TMay off
Comments
-
If that's true and it becomes common knowledge it will be bad news for the Tories.geoffw said:Cross constituency tactical voting pact between Kippers and Tories?
Labour to be nutmegged by the nutcrackers.0 -
King Cole, we'll see what happens Much talk and little action would be my guess.0
-
As the bona fide Tory Boy at university, I was the performing monkey at house parties. Even when introduced by friends to gorgeous left-liberal girls as such, I did often get on rather well with them but missed several opportunities from sheer naivety.PlatoSaid said:
I've just started rewatching Big Bang Theory from the start on Netflix.Casino_Royale said:
I wish I'd met such women.CD13 said:Ms Cyclefree,
"TBH Farron's comment about May makes me rather warm to him. At least he has the class to accept that political opponents can be decent people even if you disagree with their views."
Exactly. That's why I have doubts about Burnham. The "I've never kissed a Tory" t-shirt story made me doubt his sanity. If a gorgeous women came up to me when I was young and single and said "Let's have mad, passionate sex. But I voted Tory at the last election," guess what I would have done.
It's worrying that Burnham wasn't laughed out of the Labour Party.
I instantly thought of Raj and Penny
Not a mistake SeanT would have made.0 -
Show me a man who's a vegan, and I'll show you a man who's trying to shag a vegan.CD13 said:Ms Plato,
I used to be quite left wing in my youth, and at University I was a member of the Socialist Society. but I probably misread some of the male members who professed to be 'feminists'. I assumed it was a pathetic but transparent attempt to get into the women's knickers. But looking back, I guess that many actually believed what they were saying.
It still seems incredible, even after all these years.0 -
I was once at a party, chatting to the hostess, and it was late in the evening, and she said to me:Casino_Royale said:
As the bona fide Tory Boy at university, I was the performing monkey at house parties. Even when introduced by friends to gorgeous left-liberal girls as such, I did often get on rather well with them but missed several opportunities from sheer naivety.PlatoSaid said:
I've just started rewatching Big Bang Theory from the start on Netflix.Casino_Royale said:
I wish I'd met such women.CD13 said:Ms Cyclefree,
"TBH Farron's comment about May makes me rather warm to him. At least he has the class to accept that political opponents can be decent people even if you disagree with their views."
Exactly. That's why I have doubts about Burnham. The "I've never kissed a Tory" t-shirt story made me doubt his sanity. If a gorgeous women came up to me when I was young and single and said "Let's have mad, passionate sex. But I voted Tory at the last election," guess what I would have done.
It's worrying that Burnham wasn't laughed out of the Labour Party.
I instantly thought of Raj and Penny
Not a mistake SeanT would have made.
"You're really nice, and I always thought you were a capitalist."0 -
Grim Reaper back....and after we did the allo allo stuff last night to boot...0
-
Hear it in secret, I guess? I assume Fallon is under orders not to give specifics!TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Think again: I have two friends who joined the Feminist Society for exactly those reasons.CD13 said:Ms Plato,
I used to be quite left wing in my youth, and at University I was a member of the Socialist Society. but I probably misread some of the male members who professed to be 'feminists'. I assumed it was a pathetic but transparent attempt to get into the women's knickers. But looking back, I guess that many actually believed what they were saying.
It still seems incredible, even after all these years.
Yes, they were on the centre-Left. But they were still blokes.0 -
Was it him, or his twin brother?FrancisUrquhart said:Grim Reaper back....and after we did the allo allo stuff last night to boot...
RIP0 -
Also they may be facing rather large fines for creative accountancy in the 2015 election campaign.david_herdson said:
If there's an early election, money will be found.williamglenn said:
A senior Tory MP told HuffPost UK the party was not as well off as Labour “in pure resource terms”, so had to ration its cash.Scott_P said:Tories giving up on Stoke
Perhaps something to bear in mind when betting on an early election.
But also worth considering that the Tories might be rationing money precisely because of the risk of a May election. (I have no inside knowledge here).0 -
No vegan is worth thatrcs1000 said:
Show me a man who's a vegan, and I'll show you a man who's trying to shag a vegan.CD13 said:Ms Plato,
I used to be quite left wing in my youth, and at University I was a member of the Socialist Society. but I probably misread some of the male members who professed to be 'feminists'. I assumed it was a pathetic but transparent attempt to get into the women's knickers. But looking back, I guess that many actually believed what they were saying.
It still seems incredible, even after all these years.
. 0 -
Incidentally, my association was not Left Wing.CD13 said:Ms Plato,
I used to be quite left wing in my youth, and at University I was a member of the Socialist Society. but I probably misread some of the male members who professed to be 'feminists'. I assumed it was a pathetic but transparent attempt to get into the women's knickers. But looking back, I guess that many actually believed what they were saying.
It still seems incredible, even after all these years.
We invited Farage down to speak in 2002, Anne Widdecombe in 2003, and got told off by Michael Howard's aide for posing with our committee whilst holding up a giant Union Jack in 2004 following a walkabout.
We also enjoying trolling the Student's Union and Labour Society over the British Empire, and thrashing the latter every year in laserquest whilst playing as "Enoch", "Maggie", "Tebbit" and "Hague".
Those were the days.0 -
Awesome pun from Sir Michael Fallon.
'A sub system failure'0 -
I cannot recommend any pieces of vegan chocolate as gifts.0
-
Listen very carefully, I shall say this only once...! - RIP Monsieur René.0
-
He is cool and re-assured - good wing manTheScreamingEagles said:Awesome pun from Sir Michael Fallon.
'A sub system failure'0 -
Having nuclear missiles that veer off course can be used as an excuse after we 'accidentally' obliterate Brussels post-Brexit.0
-
Thats funnySandyRentool said:Having nuclear missiles that veer off course can be used as an excuse after we 'accidentally' obliterate Brussels post-Brexit.
0 -
0
-
No. Carwyn Jones and Leanne Wood are. In other news, bear seen heading into trees with loo roll.williamglenn said:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/23/wales-access-to-single-market-brexit-carwyn-jones-leanne-wood
Wales unhappy with May's plans.
0 -
Guess what... famous people are still going to die..FrancisUrquhart said:Grim Reaper back....and after we did the allo allo stuff last night to boot...
0 -
100-1 chance in 97 maybe ?TheScreamingEagles said:Worst bet ever?
https://twitter.com/newdawn1997/status/8235580578127585280 -
Hmm. Given Geoffrey Howe was born in Port Talbot, and Michael Heseltine in Swansea it's hard to figure out which one it might've been I suppose.TheScreamingEagles said:Worst bet ever?
https://twitter.com/newdawn1997/status/8235580578127585280 -
Re the Trident 'misfire'.
One of my drinking compadres has some knowledge of these things from many years working at the MOD and in the US.
He was the of the view that the UK will know very little about what and how it went wrong as the US are not prone to sharing that info with us.
Make of that what you will.0 -
Edit. To be charitable Michael Howard entered life in Gorseinon so he might've had a punt too?welshowl said:
Hmm. Given Geoffrey Howe was born in Port Talbot, and Michael Heseltine in Swansea it's hard to figure out which one it might've been I suppose.TheScreamingEagles said:Worst bet ever?
https://twitter.com/newdawn1997/status/8235580578127585280 -
The market clearly not paying attention:
https://www.ft.com/content/8e5b3b0c-f7f5-3ef3-aebf-481c020c3fdf
Handy flowchart on what happens to the £ after the Article 50 decision....from $1.20 in the event of govt go ahead to $1.26 in the event of regular commons votes on the process.0 -
Well right now Cameron is 150/1 to be next Tory leader and Blair is 100/1 to be next Labour leader, and I think those odds are bookies taking the piss.Pulpstar said:
100-1 chance in 97 maybe ?TheScreamingEagles said:Worst bet ever?
https://twitter.com/newdawn1997/status/8235580578127585280 -
That thought occurred to me too, but with Berlin instead.SandyRentool said:Having nuclear missiles that veer off course can be used as an excuse after we 'accidentally' obliterate Brussels post-Brexit.
0 -
Brexit will mean no more EU-Boats?TheScreamingEagles said:Awesome pun from Sir Michael Fallon.
'A sub system failure'0 -
-
But not quite so famous and not quite so many this year - so far.Slackbladder said:
Guess what... famous people are still going to die..FrancisUrquhart said:Grim Reaper back....and after we did the allo allo stuff last night to boot...
0 -
Why are the Tories hoping UKIP will win Stoke? Surely this will hasten the demise of their deep sleeper, one J. Corbyn?0
-
Gorden Kaye was responsible for an important principle being established in English law.
Kaye v Robertson [1991] FSR 62 is a case in English law, expressing the view that there is no common-law right to privacy in English law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaye_v_Robertson
Full judgement here
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/1990/21.html0 -
You're right. They should be the other way round.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well right now Cameron is 150/1 to be next Tory leader and Blair is 100/1 to be next Labour leader, and I think those odds are bookies taking the piss.Pulpstar said:
100-1 chance in 97 maybe ?TheScreamingEagles said:Worst bet ever?
https://twitter.com/newdawn1997/status/8235580578127585280 -
-
The US$ is very weak on the back of the Trump Border Tax comments, and has shed more than 3% against every currency of late.CarlottaVance said:The market clearly not paying attention:
https://www.ft.com/content/8e5b3b0c-f7f5-3ef3-aebf-481c020c3fdf
Handy flowchart on what happens to the £ after the Article 50 decision....from $1.20 in the event of govt go ahead to $1.26 in the event of regular commons votes on the process.
GBPEUR is probably a better indication of Sterling love (or hate), and that shows a big bounce on the day of the Article 50 announcement to €1.1588, and it's been flattish since then, up a little to €1.16220 -
Unusual murder weapon found by Corston CID.
https://twitter.com/CourtNewsUK/status/8235617940568432640 -
Star Wars Ep 8 announced, Rogue One was 3.5 in case you missed "Where does this fit in".0
-
@henrymance:
July: UK fires nuclear-capable missile at Florida
January: US promises rapid trade deal with UK0 -
@MrHarryCole: Gove says the row is like "eunuchs complaining about the price of Viagra".0
-
Someone has said this something I would write in a thread header
https://twitter.com/ParlyApp/status/8235628249957048320 -
RIP Gordon Kaye.
0 -
"Our words are backed with nuclear weapons"?CarlottaVance said:@henrymance:
July: UK fires nuclear-capable missile at Florida
January: US promises rapid trade deal with UK
0 -
Announced? It has been announced for years!Pulpstar said:Star Wars Ep 8 announced, Rogue One was 3.5 in case you missed "Where does this fit in".
0 -
Gorden not GordonMorris_Dancer said:RIP Gordon Kaye.
0 -
https://twitter.com/starwars/status/823561256078548992TheScreamingEagles said:Announced? It has been announced for years!
0 -
I brilliantly posted the wrong link on Twitter, but also discovered something odd. Is it now impossible to delete tweets?0
-
"Return of the Jedi" to "The Last Jedi" in just two films?... those guys can't catch a break!Scott_P said:
twitter.com/starwars/status/823561256078548992TheScreamingEagles said:Announced? It has been announced for years!
0 -
No, still can delete them.Morris_Dancer said:I brilliantly posted the wrong link on Twitter, but also discovered something odd. Is it now impossible to delete tweets?
0 -
I see Germany is bidding for Euro 2024. We should bid for it too.0
-
Where do you think Sterling may be by April 2019 "post deal" against the Euro/Dollar?rcs1000 said:
The US$ is very weak on the back of the Trump Border Tax comments, and has shed more than 3% against every currency of late.CarlottaVance said:The market clearly not paying attention:
https://www.ft.com/content/8e5b3b0c-f7f5-3ef3-aebf-481c020c3fdf
Handy flowchart on what happens to the £ after the Article 50 decision....from $1.20 in the event of govt go ahead to $1.26 in the event of regular commons votes on the process.
GBPEUR is probably a better indication of Sterling love (or hate), and that shows a big bounce on the day of the Article 50 announcement to €1.1588, and it's been flattish since then, up a little to €1.16220 -
After his terrible injury, its amazing he recovered so well. I don't recall what happened, but remember the story.Morris_Dancer said:RIP Gordon Kaye.
0 -
Never mind Singapore we should tell the Krauts that we're gonna model ourselves on North Korea. We just need to take out the French capability and we can link up with the Russkies and shake down the entire continent.CarlottaVance said:@henrymance:
July: UK fires nuclear-capable missile at Florida
January: US promises rapid trade deal with UK0 -
Mr. Eagles, a helpful chap said it's moved to the top right. Presumably it's all part of Twitter's ongoing quest to fail despite a massive user base.0
-
On Trident, in the most extreme case where we actually wanted to use it - say in emergency defence of the UK's interests where the US didn't want to put its own neck on the line too - I think we could do so with the US's acquiescence but not with the US's active opposition.0
-
Hit by a plank through his car windscreen during a storm 27 years agoPlatoSaid said:
After his terrible injury, its amazing he recovered so well. I don't recall what happened, but remember the story.Morris_Dancer said:RIP Gordon Kaye.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/january/25/newsid_3420000/3420797.stm0 -
Putin does protectionism;
https://www.rt.com/business/374797-putin-russia-made-aircraft/
Though the idea that Boeing doesn't sell in Europe, or Airbus in the USA is touching.....0 -
I have some similar stories from when I was a naive and witless youth. What's most depressing is not that I was naive and witless, but that I'm now too old for it to ever happen again.SeanT said:
Nope, I'm afraid I was totally useless at noticing women coming on to me, at Uni.Casino_Royale said:
As the bona fide Tory Boy at university, I was the performing monkey at house parties. Even when introduced by friends to gorgeous left-liberal girls as such, I did often get on rather well with them but missed several opportunities from sheer naivety.PlatoSaid said:
I've just started rewatching Big Bang Theory from the start on Netflix.Casino_Royale said:
I wish I'd met such women.CD13 said:Ms Cyclefree,
"TBH Farron's comment about May makes me rather warm to him. At least he has the class to accept that political opponents can be decent people even if you disagree with their views."
Exactly. That's why I have doubts about Burnham. The "I've never kissed a Tory" t-shirt story made me doubt his sanity. If a gorgeous women came up to me when I was young and single and said "Let's have mad, passionate sex. But I voted Tory at the last election," guess what I would have done.
It's worrying that Burnham wasn't laughed out of the Labour Party.
I instantly thought of Raj and Penny
Not a mistake SeanT would have made.
I recall one incident in the Union bar, as it was closing for the evening, when a girl put a hand on my knee and said, "Can I come and stay at your place tonight?"
She was really hot.
I looked at her, perplexed, and said "Isn't there a night bus to your part of town"? At which point she rolled her eyes (as did all my mates) and left me to me Fosters, with a justified and contemptuous sneer.0 -
As they say. Youth is wasted on the young.Stark_Dawning said:
I have some similar stories from when I was a naive and witless youth. What's most depressing is not that I was naive and witless, but that I'm now too old for it to ever happen again.SeanT said:
Nope, I'm afraid I was totally useless at noticing women coming on to me, at Uni.Casino_Royale said:
As the bona fide Tory Boy at university, I was the performing monkey at house parties. Even when introduced by friends to gorgeous left-liberal girls as such, I did often get on rather well with them but missed several opportunities from sheer naivety.PlatoSaid said:
I've just started rewatching Big Bang Theory from the start on Netflix.Casino_Royale said:
I wish I'd met such women.CD13 said:Ms Cyclefree,
"TBH Farron's comment about May makes me rather warm to him. At least he has the class to accept that political opponents can be decent people even if you disagree with their views."
Exactly. That's why I have doubts about Burnham. The "I've never kissed a Tory" t-shirt story made me doubt his sanity. If a gorgeous women came up to me when I was young and single and said "Let's have mad, passionate sex. But I voted Tory at the last election," guess what I would have done.
It's worrying that Burnham wasn't laughed out of the Labour Party.
I instantly thought of Raj and Penny
Not a mistake SeanT would have made.
I recall one incident in the Union bar, as it was closing for the evening, when a girl put a hand on my knee and said, "Can I come and stay at your place tonight?"
She was really hot.
I looked at her, perplexed, and said "Isn't there a night bus to your part of town"? At which point she rolled her eyes (as did all my mates) and left me to me Fosters, with a justified and contemptuous sneer.
0 -
I'm sorry, there's a bit too many unknowns for me to make a forecast.Casino_Royale said:
Where do you think Sterling may be by April 2019 "post deal" against the Euro/Dollar?rcs1000 said:
The US$ is very weak on the back of the Trump Border Tax comments, and has shed more than 3% against every currency of late.CarlottaVance said:The market clearly not paying attention:
https://www.ft.com/content/8e5b3b0c-f7f5-3ef3-aebf-481c020c3fdf
Handy flowchart on what happens to the £ after the Article 50 decision....from $1.20 in the event of govt go ahead to $1.26 in the event of regular commons votes on the process.
GBPEUR is probably a better indication of Sterling love (or hate), and that shows a big bounce on the day of the Article 50 announcement to €1.1588, and it's been flattish since then, up a little to €1.1622
Will the US actually implement a "Border Profit Tax"? If so, the effect of this is going to be very negative for the US$.
If they do not, and the US government pursues stimulus policies, while allowing interest rates to rise, then I would reckon that the US$ will be pretty strong.
Will 2017 see Fillon win in France? And early 2018, will 5* be elected or someone else? Will the Eurozone economic recovery continue through this year? Or will an external shock hammer them?
Here, will consumer borrowing stop running ahead of incomes, precipitating a recession, and continued loose monetary policy?0 -
It's amazing how little 'home' advantage Boeing and Airbus have. The big US carriers run thousands of A320s, and the Europeans have equally many 777s and 737s.CarlottaVance said:Putin does protectionism;
https://www.rt.com/business/374797-putin-russia-made-aircraft/
Though the idea that Boeing doesn't sell in Europe, or Airbus in the USA is touching.....0 -
My favourite story about the notoriously taciturn President Coolidge: a girl came up to him at a party and said "Mr Coolidge, my Pa says if I can get three words out of you, he'll buy me a mink coat."SeanT said:
Yeah, I still wake up in cold sweats thinking of the opportunities I flunked.Stark_Dawning said:
I have some similar stories from when I was a naive and witless youth. What's most depressing is not that I was naive and witless, but that I'm now too old for it to ever happen again.SeanT said:
Nope, I'm afraid I was totally useless at noticing women coming on to me, at Uni.Casino_Royale said:
As the bona fide Tory Boy at university, I was the performing monkey at house parties. Even when introduced by friends to gorgeous left-liberal girls as such, I did often get on rather well with them but missed several opportunities from sheer naivety.PlatoSaid said:
I've just started rewatching Big Bang Theory from the start on Netflix.Casino_Royale said:
I wish I'd met such women.CD13 said:Ms Cyclefree,
"TBH Farron's comment about May makes me rather warm to him. At least he has the class to accept that political opponents can be decent people even if you disagree with their views."
Exactly. That's why I have doubts about Burnham. The "I've never kissed a Tory" t-shirt story made me doubt his sanity. If a gorgeous women came up to me when I was young and single and said "Let's have mad, passionate sex. But I voted Tory at the last election," guess what I would have done.
It's worrying that Burnham wasn't laughed out of the Labour Party.
I instantly thought of Raj and Penny
Not a mistake SeanT would have made.
I recall one incident in the Union bar, as it was closing for the evening, when a girl put a hand on my knee and said, "Can I come and stay at your place tonight?"
She was really hot.
I looked at her, perplexed, and said "Isn't there a night bus to your part of town"? At which point she rolled her eyes (as did all my mates) and left me to me Fosters, with a justified and contemptuous sneer.
I think it's one reason I'm so libidinous now. Genuinely.
I also think the idea male sexual desire declines after 40 is rubbish. Male sexual desire for the same woman declines. Give a man a hot new partner, see what happens then. I believe US President Calvin Coolidge made this same point some time ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect
Coolidge's reply was "Pa wins".0 -
On topic - “Any Labour leader would struggle with the issue.”
No. A decent leader would not have left it to others to advocate what was Labour party policy, would have ensured that his team did not sabotage efforts to make Labour party policy clear during the referendum campaign and would have persuaded enough people to vote Remain that there would be no issue now. A credible Labour leader capable of getting a hearing among ordinary voters could well have swung it the way that Labour members wanted. Corbyn was not that leader.
0 -
However, Air Canada have given Bombardier a favour by ordering the C series.rcs1000 said:
It's amazing how little 'home' advantage Boeing and Airbus have. The big US carriers run thousands of A320s, and the Europeans have equally many 777s and 737s.CarlottaVance said:Putin does protectionism;
https://www.rt.com/business/374797-putin-russia-made-aircraft/
Though the idea that Boeing doesn't sell in Europe, or Airbus in the USA is touching.....
And since Airbus now manufacture narrow bodies in Alabama, US airlines can buy American and still buy the better product.0 -
It all sounds like hard work.SeanT said:
Yeah, I still wake up in cold sweats thinking of the opportunities I flunked.Stark_Dawning said:
I have some similar stories from when I was a naive and witless youth. What's most depressing is not that I was naive and witless, but that I'm now too old for it to ever happen again.SeanT said:
Nope, I'm afraid I was totally useless at noticing women coming on to me, at Uni.Casino_Royale said:
As the bona fide Tory Boy at university, I was the performing monkey at house parties. Even when introduced by friends to gorgeous left-liberal girls as such, I did often get on rather well with them but missed several opportunities from sheer naivety.PlatoSaid said:
I've just started rewatching Big Bang Theory from the start on Netflix.Casino_Royale said:
I wish I'd met such women.CD13 said:Ms Cyclefree,
"TBH Farron's comment about May makes me rather warm to him. At least he has the class to accept that political opponents can be decent people even if you disagree with their views."
Exactly. That's why I have doubts about Burnham. The "I've never kissed a Tory" t-shirt story made me doubt his sanity. If a gorgeous women came up to me when I was young and single and said "Let's have mad, passionate sex. But I voted Tory at the last election," guess what I would have done.
It's worrying that Burnham wasn't laughed out of the Labour Party.
I instantly thought of Raj and Penny
Not a mistake SeanT would have made.
I recall one incident in the Union bar, as it was closing for the evening, when a girl put a hand on my knee and said, "Can I come and stay at your place tonight?"
She was really hot.
I looked at her, perplexed, and said "Isn't there a night bus to your part of town"? At which point she rolled her eyes (as did all my mates) and left me to me Fosters, with a justified and contemptuous sneer.
I think it's one reason I'm so libidinous now. Genuinely.
I also think the idea male sexual desire declines after 40 is rubbish. Male sexual desire for the same woman declines. Give a man a hot new partner, see what happens then. I believe US President Calvin Coolidge made this same point some time ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect0 -
Perhaps, but it would also (1) point UKIP firmly in the direction of Labour, in both resources and policy, and (2) give UKIP credibility with the public as a genuine alternative to Labour - 'winning here' and all that, and (3) increase the pressure on the three-way pincer on Labour, between Con, LD and UKIP.rottenborough said:Why are the Tories hoping UKIP will win Stoke? Surely this will hasten the demise of their deep sleeper, one J. Corbyn?
It's never sensible to be too cute in strategy but I can understand the reasoning behind prioritising Copeland.0 -
Sounds like Osborne v Brown in the Commons.Casino_Royale said:
Incidentally, my association was not Left Wing.CD13 said:Ms Plato,
I used to be quite left wing in my youth, and at University I was a member of the Socialist Society. but I probably misread some of the male members who professed to be 'feminists'. I assumed it was a pathetic but transparent attempt to get into the women's knickers. But looking back, I guess that many actually believed what they were saying.
It still seems incredible, even after all these years.
We invited Farage down to speak in 2002, Anne Widdecombe in 2003, and got told off by Michael Howard's aide for posing with our committee whilst holding up a giant Union Jack in 2004 following a walkabout.
We also enjoying trolling the Student's Union and Labour Society over the British Empire, and thrashing the latter every year in laserquest whilst playing as "Enoch", "Maggie", "Tebbit" and "Hague".
Those were the days.
0 -
Nuttall in parliament would also make May seem less UKIPpy?david_herdson said:
Perhaps, but it would also (1) point UKIP firmly in the direction of Labour, in both resources and policy, and (2) give UKIP credibility with the public as a genuine alternative to Labour - 'winning here' and all that, and (3) increase the pressure on the three-way pincer on Labour, between Con, LD and UKIP.rottenborough said:Why are the Tories hoping UKIP will win Stoke? Surely this will hasten the demise of their deep sleeper, one J. Corbyn?
It's never sensible to be too cute in strategy but I can understand the reasoning behind prioritising Copeland.0 -
Who would ever have believed that Calvin Coolidge would be for ever linked with sexual proclivity.Carolus_Rex said:
My favourite story about the notoriously taciturn President Coolidge: a girl came up to him at a party and said "Mr Coolidge, my Pa says if I can get three words out of you, he'll buy me a mink coat."SeanT said:
Yeah, I still wake up in cold sweats thinking of the opportunities I flunked.Stark_Dawning said:
I have some similar stories from when I was a naive and witless youth. What's most depressing is not that I was naive and witless, but that I'm now too old for it to ever happen again.SeanT said:
Nope, I'm afraid I was totally useless at noticing women coming on to me, at Uni.Casino_Royale said:
As the bona fide Tory Boy at university, I was the performing monkey at house parties. Even when introduced by friends to gorgeous left-liberal girls as such, I did often get on rather well with them but missed several opportunities from sheer naivety.PlatoSaid said:
I've just started rewatching Big Bang Theory from the start on Netflix.Casino_Royale said:
I wish I'd met such women.CD13 said:Ms Cyclefree,
"TBH Farron's comment about May makes me rather warm to him. At least he has the class to accept that political opponents can be decent people even if you disagree with their views."
Exactly. That's why I have doubts about Burnham. The "I've never kissed a Tory" t-shirt story made me doubt his sanity. If a gorgeous women came up to me when I was young and single and said "Let's have mad, passionate sex. But I voted Tory at the last election," guess what I would have done.
It's worrying that Burnham wasn't laughed out of the Labour Party.
I instantly thought of Raj and Penny
Not a mistake SeanT would have made.
I recall one incident in the Union bar, as it was closing for the evening, when a girl put a hand on my knee and said, "Can I come and stay at your place tonight?"
She was really hot.
I looked at her, perplexed, and said "Isn't there a night bus to your part of town"? At which point she rolled her eyes (as did all my mates) and left me to me Fosters, with a justified and contemptuous sneer.
I think it's one reason I'm so libidinous now. Genuinely.
I also think the idea male sexual desire declines after 40 is rubbish. Male sexual desire for the same woman declines. Give a man a hot new partner, see what happens then. I believe US President Calvin Coolidge made this same point some time ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect
Coolidge's reply was "Pa wins".0 -
Luke was already the last Jedi though wasn't he?RobD said:
"Return of the Jedi" to "The Last Jedi" in just two films?... those guys can't catch a break!Scott_P said:
twitter.com/starwars/status/823561256078548992TheScreamingEagles said:Announced? It has been announced for years!
0 -
How'd I miss that ICM poll? Only 16 points.. disappointing.0
-
Hmmmm... With UKIP all you get is talk. With May you get action.isam said:
Nuttall in parliament would also make May seem less UKIPpy?david_herdson said:
Perhaps, but it would also (1) point UKIP firmly in the direction of Labour, in both resources and policy, and (2) give UKIP credibility with the public as a genuine alternative to Labour - 'winning here' and all that, and (3) increase the pressure on the three-way pincer on Labour, between Con, LD and UKIP.rottenborough said:Why are the Tories hoping UKIP will win Stoke? Surely this will hasten the demise of their deep sleeper, one J. Corbyn?
It's never sensible to be too cute in strategy but I can understand the reasoning behind prioritising Copeland.
0 -
Quote of the day:
"If you live in a country where you get so annoyed with how we deal each other, you have a choice. Get out! You don't have to be here!"
Mark Rutte, Dutch PM
Trying to out-Freedom the Freedom Party.0 -
Are you calling her a goer?!!perdix said:
Hmmmm... With UKIP all you get is talk. With May you get action.isam said:
Nuttall in parliament would also make May seem less UKIPpy?david_herdson said:
Perhaps, but it would also (1) point UKIP firmly in the direction of Labour, in both resources and policy, and (2) give UKIP credibility with the public as a genuine alternative to Labour - 'winning here' and all that, and (3) increase the pressure on the three-way pincer on Labour, between Con, LD and UKIP.rottenborough said:Why are the Tories hoping UKIP will win Stoke? Surely this will hasten the demise of their deep sleeper, one J. Corbyn?
It's never sensible to be too cute in strategy but I can understand the reasoning behind prioritising Copeland.
Yeah I suppose a party set up to achieve something specific that achieves it can only be considered all talk0 -
Pollution alert in London. Very high today and tomorrow:
http://www.londonair.org.uk/Londonair/Forecast/0 -
ICM Poll. How on earth can Greens be on 5%, they have virtually disappeared from elections and where they stand they are nearly always reduced to the barest minimum. ICM must be having a laugh, they have certainly ceased to be "gold standard"0
-
Trump has pulled the US out of the Trans-Pacific partnership.0
-
Me too. Some of the women were simply stunning.SeanT said:
Yeah, I still wake up in cold sweats thinking of the opportunities I flunked.Stark_Dawning said:
I have some similar stories from when I was a naive and witless youth. What's most depressing is not that I was naive and witless, but that I'm now too old for it to ever happen again.SeanT said:
Nope, I'm afraid I was totally useless at noticing women coming on to me, at Uni.Casino_Royale said:
As the bona fide Tory Boy at university, I was the performing monkey at house parties. Even when introduced by friends to gorgeous left-liberal girls as such, I did often get on rather well with them but missed several opportunities from sheer naivety.PlatoSaid said:
I've just started rewatching Big Bang Theory from the start on Netflix.Casino_Royale said:
I wish I'd met such women.CD13 said:Ms Cyclefree,
"TBH Farron's comment about May makes me rather warm to him. At least he has the class to accept that political opponents can be decent people even if you disagree with their views."
Exactly. That's why I have doubts about Burnham. The "I've never kissed a Tory" t-shirt story made me doubt his sanity. If a gorgeous women came up to me when I was young and single and said "Let's have mad, passionate sex. But I voted Tory at the last election," guess what I would have done.
It's worrying that Burnham wasn't laughed out of the Labour Party.
I instantly thought of Raj and Penny
Not a mistake SeanT would have made.
I recall one incident in the Union bar, as it was closing for the evening, when a girl put a hand on my knee and said, "Can I come and stay at your place tonight?"
She was really hot.
I looked at her, perplexed, and said "Isn't there a night bus to your part of town"? At which point she rolled her eyes (as did all my mates) and left me to me Fosters, with a justified and contemptuous sneer.
I just didn't have a clue what I was doing.0 -
It was a bit of an unfair question. Of course, no-one can know.rcs1000 said:
I'm sorry, there's a bit too many unknowns for me to make a forecast.Casino_Royale said:
Where do you think Sterling may be by April 2019 "post deal" against the Euro/Dollar?rcs1000 said:
The US$ is very weak on the back of the Trump Border Tax comments, and has shed more than 3% against every currency of late.CarlottaVance said:The market clearly not paying attention:
https://www.ft.com/content/8e5b3b0c-f7f5-3ef3-aebf-481c020c3fdf
Handy flowchart on what happens to the £ after the Article 50 decision....from $1.20 in the event of govt go ahead to $1.26 in the event of regular commons votes on the process.
GBPEUR is probably a better indication of Sterling love (or hate), and that shows a big bounce on the day of the Article 50 announcement to €1.1588, and it's been flattish since then, up a little to €1.1622
Will the US actually implement a "Border Profit Tax"? If so, the effect of this is going to be very negative for the US$.
If they do not, and the US government pursues stimulus policies, while allowing interest rates to rise, then I would reckon that the US$ will be pretty strong.
Will 2017 see Fillon win in France? And early 2018, will 5* be elected or someone else? Will the Eurozone economic recovery continue through this year? Or will an external shock hammer them?
Here, will consumer borrowing stop running ahead of incomes, precipitating a recession, and continued loose monetary policy?0 -
IIRC there was a student joke that went as follows:SeanT said:
On the contrary, it is reviving and invigorating:Jonathan said:
It all sounds like hard work.SeanT said:
Yeah, I still wake up in cold sweats thinking of the opportunities I flunked.Stark_Dawning said:
I have some similar stories from when I was a naive and witless youth. What's most depressing is not that I was naive and witless, but that I'm now too old for it to ever happen again.SeanT said:
Nope, I'm afraid I was totally useless at noticing women coming on to me, at Uni.Casino_Royale said:PlatoSaid said:
I've just started rewatching Big Bang Theory from the start on Netflix.Casino_Royale said:
I wish I'd met such women.CD13 said:Ms Cyclefree,
"TBH Fa laughed out of the Labour Party.
I instantly thought of Raj and Penny
Not a mistake SeanT would have made.
She was really hot.
I looked at her, perplexed, and said "Isn't there a night bus to your part of town"? At which point she rolled her eyes (as did all my mates) and left me to me Fosters, with a justified and contemptuous sneer.
I think it's one reason I'm so libidinous now. Genuinely.
I also think the idea male sexual desire declines after 40 is rubbish. Male sexual desire for the same woman declines. Give a man a hot new partner, see what happens then. I believe US President Calvin Coolidge made this same point some time ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect
"The original experiments with rats applied the following protocol:[19] A male rat was placed into an enclosed large box with four or five female rats in heat. He immediately began to mate with all the female rats repeatedly until he eventually became exhausted. The females continued nudging and licking him, yet he did not respond. When a novel female was introduced into the box, he became alert and began to mate once again with the new female. This phenomenon is not limited to common rats.[20] The Coolidge effect is attributed to an increase in dopamine levels and the subsequent effect upon an animal's limbic system.[21]"
A professor outlined an experiment. A male rat was in a cage with two exits - one exit provided one-way access to a female rat and the other provided (one-way) access to food.
The professor noted that the rat repreatedly chose the food proving that food was a greater concern than reproduction:
"To avoid any suggestion of bias, we changed the type of food on a regular basis. With uniform results"
To which the student at the front replied "Ah - but did you change the female rat?"0 -
Once is happenstance, twice is co-incidence, ......tlg86 said:
That thought occurred to me too, but with Berlin instead.SandyRentool said:Having nuclear missiles that veer off course can be used as an excuse after we 'accidentally' obliterate Brussels post-Brexit.
0 -
The recent YouGov survey showed Labour voters are nearly as pro the EU as Lib Dems.
Labour's problem is that their EU supporters are in London and parts the south. It is in the north where Labour voters are more anti EU but have voted in pro EU Labour MPs - up until now.
Stoke will show how many anti EU Labour voters are going to switch to Conservative or UKIP. Some pro EU Labour voters may switch to Lib Dem.0 -
Youngsters who think Corbyn is a buffoon and remember that the Lib Dems trebled their tuition fees?theakes said:ICM Poll. How on earth can Greens be on 5%, they have virtually disappeared from elections and where they stand they are nearly always reduced to the barest minimum. ICM must be having a laugh, they have certainly ceased to be "gold standard"
0 -
I was going to post that story earlier but didnt as I couldn't come up with a similar story from Ireland for balanceSeanT said:
This is how Europe will go hard right, even far right. The traditional Right parties will have to adopt more extreme, anti-migrant policies to stay viable. The left will shrink into irrelevant Corbynism.SandyRentool said:Quote of the day:
"If you live in a country where you get so annoyed with how we deal each other, you have a choice. Get out! You don't have to be here!"
Mark Rutte, Dutch PM
Trying to out-Freedom the Freedom Party.
Incidentally there's a horrible story coming out of Sweden, about a gangrape livestreamed on Facebook. If you go to the usual dodgy sites, they have quite convincing evidence the criminals are migrants. The mainstream media is silent on the issue. So who knows?
There are many kinds of post-truth.
I shall now drink wine and think nicer thoughts. Later.0 -
I have a suspicion that those that protest the most are also probably the most susceptible to err "charms".SeanT said:
Nope, I'm afraid I was totally useless at noticing women coming on to me, at Uni.Casino_Royale said:
As the bona fide Tory Boy at university, I was the performing monkey at house parties. Even when introduced by friends to gorgeous left-liberal girls as such, I did often get on rather well with them but missed several opportunities from sheer naivety.PlatoSaid said:
I've just started rewatching Big Bang Theory from the start on Netflix.Casino_Royale said:
I wish I'd met such women.CD13 said:Ms Cyclefree,
"TBH Farron's comment about May makes me rather warm to him. At least he has the class to accept that political opponents can be decent people even if you disagree with their views."
Exactly. That's why I have doubts about Burnham. The "I've never kissed a Tory" t-shirt story made me doubt his sanity. If a gorgeous women came up to me when I was young and single and said "Let's have mad, passionate sex. But I voted Tory at the last election," guess what I would have done.
It's worrying that Burnham wasn't laughed out of the Labour Party.
I instantly thought of Raj and Penny
Not a mistake SeanT would have made.
I recall one incident in the Union bar, as it was closing for the evening, when a girl put a hand on my knee and said, "Can I come and stay at your place tonight?"
She was really hot.
I looked at her, perplexed, and said "Isn't there a night bus to your part of town"? At which point she rolled her eyes (as did all my mates) and left me to me Fosters, with a justified and contemptuous sneer.
It wasn't until my late 20s that I finally clued up. It wasn't until my 30s that I realised women like men to be ruthless, assertive, dominant (within reason). I fear there is some truth in Trump's remark, once you reach a certain level of success or confidence, you can just "grab them by the pussy" and they will yield.
I emphasise I don't do this. But I have no doubt it works.
Projection and all that good psychological stuff.0 -
I think we get too hung up on the defining area/seats as LEAVE/REMAIN. If it mattered that much then the LDs would not have increased their by-election vote shares in LEAVE areas by 10% since BREXIT and only 4% in REMAIN ones. Labour is vulnerable in its heartlands to this sort of attackDavid_Evershed said:The recent YopuGov survey showed Labour voters are nearly as pro the EU as Lib Dems.
Labour's problem is that their EU supporters are in the south where they lose out to Conservative MPs. It is in the north where Labour voters are more anti EU but have voted in Labour MPs - up until now..
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/823122855361658881
0 -
Easy to forget quite how fanatical a solid 10-15% of the country are about the EU. Very easy to decent chunk of them moving to the Greens.chestnut said:
Youngsters who think Corbyn is a buffoon and remember that the Lib Dems trebled their tuition fees?theakes said:ICM Poll. How on earth can Greens be on 5%, they have virtually disappeared from elections and where they stand they are nearly always reduced to the barest minimum. ICM must be having a laugh, they have certainly ceased to be "gold standard"
Which is crazy as the whole point of Corbyn was that he would appeal to left wing Green voters.0 -
There could be two sources of the 5%. One is hard core environmentalists, who want a party that puts environment, energy, nature, bio-sphere, climate etc etc right at the centre of everything. Arguably, these types have been having a hard time of it of late under the Lucas/Bennett era (witness the candidature of Clive Lord for leader under a 'get the greens back to being green' kind of ticket). But there is a chunk of voters who support this position - maybe 1 or 2%?chestnut said:
Youngsters who think Corbyn is a buffoon and remember that the Lib Dems trebled their tuition fees?theakes said:ICM Poll. How on earth can Greens be on 5%, they have virtually disappeared from elections and where they stand they are nearly always reduced to the barest minimum. ICM must be having a laugh, they have certainly ceased to be "gold standard"
The other must surely be vaguely lefty-greeny-wingers who remain unconvinced by Corbyn and Labour in general.0 -
A girl asked my mate to share a cab ride home. He said yeah... Being the frugal sort.SeanT said:
Nope, I'm afraid I was totally useless at noticing women coming on to me, at Uni.Casino_Royale said:
As the bona fide Tory Boy at university, I was the performing monkey at house parties. Even when introduced by friends to gorgeous left-liberal girls as such, I did often get on rather well with them but missed several opportunities from sheer naivety.PlatoSaid said:
I've just started rewatching Big Bang Theory from the start on Netflix.Casino_Royale said:
I wish I'd met such women.CD13 said:Ms Cyclefree,
"TBH Farron's comment about May makes me rather warm to him. At least he has the class to accept that political opponents can be decent people even if you disagree with their views."
Exactly. That's why I have doubts about Burnham. The "I've never kissed a Tory" t-shirt story made me doubt his sanity. If a gorgeous women came up to me when I was young and single and said "Let's have mad, passionate sex. But I voted Tory at the last election," guess what I would have done.
It's worrying that Burnham wasn't laughed out of the Labour Party.
I instantly thought of Raj and Penny
Not a mistake SeanT would have made.
I recall one incident in the Union bar, as it was closing for the evening, when a girl put a hand on my knee and said, "Can I come and stay at your place tonight?"
She was really hot.
I looked at her, perplexed, and said "Isn't there a night bus to your part of town"? At which point she rolled her eyes (as did all my mates) and left me to me Fosters, with a justified and contemptuous sneer.
It wasn't until my late 20s that I finally clued up. It wasn't until my 30s that I realised women like men to be ruthless, assertive, dominant (within reason). I fear there is some truth in Trump's remark, once you reach a certain level of success or confidence, you can just "grab them by the pussy" and they will yield.
I emphasise I don't do this. But I have no doubt it works.
First thing he said on getting in... Probably best if we drop you off first.0 -
It is easily forgotten that there are a very large number of 'REMAIN' voters even in strong LEAVE areas. Take Sunderland for example. Over 50,000 people voted REMAIN. It's just that 80,000 voted LEAVE. If the Lib Dems can motivate and pull a large proportion of REMAIN voters even in strong LEAVE areas - then along with differential turnout they can do very well indeed.MikeSmithson said:
I think we get too hung up on the defining area/seats as LEAVE/REMAIN. If it mattered that much then the LDs would not have increased their by-election vote shares in LEAVE areas by 10% since BREXIT and only 4% in REMAIN ones. Labour is vulnerable in its heartlands to this sort of attackDavid_Evershed said:The recent YopuGov survey showed Labour voters are nearly as pro the EU as Lib Dems.
Labour's problem is that their EU supporters are in the south where they lose out to Conservative MPs. It is in the north where Labour voters are more anti EU but have voted in Labour MPs - up until now..
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/8231228553616588810 -
I know I've missed a few like that in my time too. Oh dear!rkrkrk said:
A girl asked my mate to share a cab ride home. He said yeah... Being the frugal sort.SeanT said:
Nope, I'm afraid I was totally useless at noticing women coming on to me, at Uni.Casino_Royale said:
As the bona fide Tory Boy at university, I was the performing monkey at house parties. Even when introduced by friends to gorgeous left-liberal girls as such, I did often get on rather well with them but missed several opportunities from sheer naivety.PlatoSaid said:
I've just started rewatching Big Bang Theory from the start on Netflix.Casino_Royale said:
I wish I'd met such women.CD13 said:Ms Cyclefree,
"TBH Farron's comment about May makes me rather warm to him. At least he has the class to accept that political opponents can be decent people even if you disagree with their views."
Exactly. That's why I have doubts about Burnham. The "I've never kissed a Tory" t-shirt story made me doubt his sanity. If a gorgeous women came up to me when I was young and single and said "Let's have mad, passionate sex. But I voted Tory at the last election," guess what I would have done.
It's worrying that Burnham wasn't laughed out of the Labour Party.
I instantly thought of Raj and Penny
Not a mistake SeanT would have made.
I recall one incident in the Union bar, as it was closing for the evening, when a girl put a hand on my knee and said, "Can I come and stay at your place tonight?"
She was really hot.
I looked at her, perplexed, and said "Isn't there a night bus to your part of town"? At which point she rolled her eyes (as did all my mates) and left me to me Fosters, with a justified and contemptuous sneer.
It wasn't until my late 20s that I finally clued up. It wasn't until my 30s that I realised women like men to be ruthless, assertive, dominant (within reason). I fear there is some truth in Trump's remark, once you reach a certain level of success or confidence, you can just "grab them by the pussy" and they will yield.
I emphasise I don't do this. But I have no doubt it works.
First thing he said on getting in... Probably best if we drop you off first.0 -
weejonnie said:
IIRC there was a student joke that went as follows:SeanT said:
On the contrary, it is reviving and invigorating:Jonathan said:
It all sounds like hard work.SeanT said:
Yeah, I still wake up in cold sweats thinking of the opportunities I flunked.Stark_Dawning said:
I have some similar stories from when I was a naive and witless youth. What's most depressing is not that I was naive and witless, but that I'm now too old for it to ever happen again.SeanT said:
Nope, I'm afraid I was totally useless at noticing women coming on to me, at Uni.Casino_Royale said:PlatoSaid said:
I've just started rewatching Big Bang Theory from the start on Netflix.Casino_Royale said:
I wish I'd met such women.CD13 said:Ms Cyclefree,
"TBH Fa laughed out of the Labour Party.
I instantly thought of Raj and Penny
Not a mistake SeanT would have made.
She was really hot.
I looked at her, perplexed, and said "Isn't there a night bus to your part of town"? At which point she rolled her eyes (as did all my mates) and left me to me Fosters, with a justified and contemptuous sneer.
I think it's one reason I'm so libidinous now. Genuinely.
I also think the idea male sexual desire declines after 40 is rubbish. Male sexual desire for the same woman declines. Give a man a hot new partner, see what happens then. I believe US President Calvin Coolidge made this same point some time ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolidge_effect
A professor outlined an experiment. A male rat was in a cage with two exits - one exit provided one-way access to a female rat and the other provided (one-way) access to food.
The professor noted that the rat repreatedly chose the food proving that food was a greater concern than reproduction:
"To avoid any suggestion of bias, we changed the type of food on a regular basis. With uniform results"
To which the student at the front replied "Ah - but did you change the female rat?"
0 -
Tillerson Confirmed0
-
And they are typically motivated too, based on previous by election %share change.Lennon said:
It is easily forgotten that there are a very large number of 'REMAIN' voters even in strong LEAVE areas. Take Sunderland for example. Over 50,000 people voted REMAIN. It's just that 80,000 voted LEAVE. If the Lib Dems can motivate and pull a large proportion of REMAIN voters even in strong LEAVE areas - then along with differential turnout they can do very well indeed.MikeSmithson said:
I think we get too hung up on the defining area/seats as LEAVE/REMAIN. If it mattered that much then the LDs would not have increased their by-election vote shares in LEAVE areas by 10% since BREXIT and only 4% in REMAIN ones. Labour is vulnerable in its heartlands to this sort of attackDavid_Evershed said:The recent YopuGov survey showed Labour voters are nearly as pro the EU as Lib Dems.
Labour's problem is that their EU supporters are in the south where they lose out to Conservative MPs. It is in the north where Labour voters are more anti EU but have voted in Labour MPs - up until now..
https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/8231228553616588810 -
0
-
The main chunk is non voters.rottenborough said:
There could be two sources of the 5%. One is hard core environmentalists, who want a party that puts environment, energy, nature, bio-sphere, climate etc etc right at the centre of everything. Arguably, these types have been having a hard time of it of late under the Lucas/Bennett era (witness the candidature of Clive Lord for leader under a 'get the greens back to being green' kind of ticket). But there is a chunk of voters who support this position - maybe 1 or 2%?chestnut said:
Youngsters who think Corbyn is a buffoon and remember that the Lib Dems trebled their tuition fees?theakes said:ICM Poll. How on earth can Greens be on 5%, they have virtually disappeared from elections and where they stand they are nearly always reduced to the barest minimum. ICM must be having a laugh, they have certainly ceased to be "gold standard"
The other must surely be vaguely lefty-greeny-wingers who remain unconvinced by Corbyn and Labour in general.0 -
Nafta next ?chestnut said:Trump pulls the plug on TPP
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-387210560
