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MarqueeMark said:

Monksfield said:

chestnut said:

Monksfield said:

Well, one of the few things that made me shed tears this year was the murder of Jo Cox, so I'm ecstatic that the nazi scumbag that killed her has been locked up for life. Good riddance. Hopefully the security services will focus a bit more attention on these morons.

As for Labour, in view of their problems up front could they put in a big money bid for Caroline Lucas?

Labour could do with someone who can speak a foreign language - working class.

The working class really don't give a toss about climate change, carbon footprints, transgender issues and the troubles in Palestine.

What they will give a toss about, however is when the clusterfuck that is Brexit leaves them thousands of pounds worse off. Of course they'll forget they voted for it st that point and blame the eejits who lied to them. Ho ho ho.

But even if we accept your premise that Brexit will be a fuck up, they won't be worse off, in terms of seeing less money in their pocket. The just won't have as much as some smart arse Remainers will tell them they could have had. And those Remainers will have as much of a hearing from the working class as they had in the summer of 2016.....

£1,000 per adult we're told. They'll realise eventually.

FrancisUrquhart said:

Trump says he’s going to get Apple to “build a big plant” in US

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/11/trump-says-hes-going-to-get-apple-to-build-a-big-plant-in-us/

An apple tree?

See, he does care about the environment.

TheScreamingEagles said:

I know we're not getting a second referendum, but if we did, I reckon this would be a referendum winning slogan

'Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead.'

On the side of a vehicle of some kind, perhaps...

After having just completed a number of plane trips across to and round the USA I was wondering if people here are recliners or non recliners.

The reason I ask is I believe there is a clue here to the mentality of people who vote Trump or Brexit...are they selfish, miserable, cannot give a fuck about other people who recline down without a care in the world....and I think more likely to support Trump/Brexit; or are they compassionate considerate folk who wouldn't dream of invading the space/upsetting a fellow human being....a Remainer or Liberal.

I think this is an interesting social survey.

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MP_SE said:

Ben Carson has accepted HUD secretary role. I am sure he will quickly be smeared with allegations of being a white nationalist anti-Semite...

https://twitter.com/dmartosko/status/801532341718044674

Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?

Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.

Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.

That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.

Ceationism is fascinating.

It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.

For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this

That cannot be genuine. Can it?

And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!

Monksfield said:

chestnut said:

Monksfield said:

Well, one of the few things that made me shed tears this year was the murder of Jo Cox, so I'm ecstatic that the nazi scumbag that killed her has been locked up for life. Good riddance. Hopefully the security services will focus a bit more attention on these morons.

As for Labour, in view of their problems up front could they put in a big money bid for Caroline Lucas?

Labour could do with someone who can speak a foreign language - working class.

The working class really don't give a toss about climate change, carbon footprints, transgender issues and the troubles in Palestine.

What they will give a toss about, however is when the clusterfuck that is Brexit leaves them thousands of pounds worse off. Of course they'll forget they voted for it st that point and blame the eejits who lied to them. Ho ho ho.

There's no evidence that people will be thousands of pounds worth off.

You're asking us to take it on faith. Rather like creationism.

Monksfield said:

chestnut said:

Monksfield said:

Well, one of the few things that made me shed tears this year was the murder of Jo Cox, so I'm ecstatic that the nazi scumbag that killed her has been locked up for life. Good riddance. Hopefully the security services will focus a bit more attention on these morons.

As for Labour, in view of their problems up front could they put in a big money bid for Caroline Lucas?

Labour could do with someone who can speak a foreign language - working class.

The working class really don't give a toss about climate change, carbon footprints, transgender issues and the troubles in Palestine.

What they will give a toss about, however is when the clusterfuck that is Brexit leaves them thousands of pounds worse off. Of course they'll forget they voted for it st that point and blame the eejits who lied to them. Ho ho ho.

If Brexit is a success, many more people will remember voting for it. If it is a clusterfuck, many will indeed forget voting for it. I'm working on my defence already, just in case.

tyson said:

After having just completed a number of plane trips across to and round the USA I was wondering if people here are recliners or non recliners.

The reason I ask is I believe there is a clue here to the mentality of people who vote Trump or Brexit...are they selfish, miserable, cannot give a fuck about other people who recline down without a care in the world....and I think more likely to support Trump/Brexit; or are they compassionate considerate folk who wouldn't dream of invading the space/upsetting a fellow human being....a Remainer or Liberal.

I think this is an interesting social survey.

I Brexited and would not dream of invading someone's personal space, I'd put up with anything short of another person jabbing their elbow into my face to avoid disturbing them.

Also, though I do not share this aspect of it, don't most Brexiters (and no few Remainers) worry about immigrants taking up their personal space?

MaxPB said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

I know we're not getting a second referendum, but if we did, I reckon this would be a referendum winning slogan

'Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead.'

'The Remain supporting chancellor has cost us £61.3bn let's spend it on the NHS instead'

I reckon it will all come down to if we go Hard Brexit/WTO rules

Genuine question - how do you tell the difference between a man and a lady T-Rex?

TheScreamingEagles said:

kle4 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MP_SE said:

Ben Carson has accepted HUD secretary role. I am sure he will quickly be smeared with allegations of being a white nationalist anti-Semite...

https://twitter.com/dmartosko/status/801532341718044674

Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?

Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.

Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.

That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.

Ceationism is fascinating.

It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.

For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this

That cannot be genuine. Can it?

And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!

Genuine comments from creationists

Proof please.

Sean_F said:

Monksfield said:

chestnut said:

Monksfield said:

Well, one of the few things that made me shed tears this year was the murder of Jo Cox, so I'm ecstatic that the nazi scumbag that killed her has been locked up for life. Good riddance. Hopefully the security services will focus a bit more attention on these morons.

As for Labour, in view of their problems up front could they put in a big money bid for Caroline Lucas?

Labour could do with someone who can speak a foreign language - working class.

The working class really don't give a toss about climate change, carbon footprints, transgender issues and the troubles in Palestine.

What they will give a toss about, however is when the clusterfuck that is Brexit leaves them thousands of pounds worse off. Of course they'll forget they voted for it st that point and blame the eejits who lied to them. Ho ho ho.

There's no evidence that people will be thousands of pounds worth off.

You're asking us to take it on faith. Rather like creationism.

George Osborne said it, and the Autumn statement seemed to confirm it?

chestnut said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

I know we're not getting a second referendum, but if we did, I reckon this would be a referendum winning slogan

'Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead.'

Do people really believe the NHS matters that much to voters, still?

If it did, Labour would have waltzed home in 2010 and 2015.

Yes, I think it does, which is why the £350 million bus slogan worked. In my pre referendum anecdata I reported several overheard patient conversations on that meme.

Social conservatism in Britain is not creationist, anti-abortion or racist as it is in Trumpland. It is mostly about harkening back to well paying jobs that required little formal education, backed up by council housing, the NHS and State pensions.

Remember that only a small minority of Britons use private medicine and that the shared social endeavour of the NHS is part of the reason it is so valued. The minority with any pension other than the state one is not much bigger.

foxinsoxuk said:

chestnut said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

I know we're not getting a second referendum, but if we did, I reckon this would be a referendum winning slogan

'Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead.'

Do people really believe the NHS matters that much to voters, still?

If it did, Labour would have waltzed home in 2010 and 2015.

Yes, I think it does, which is why the £350 million bus slogan worked. In my pre referendum anecdata I reported several overheard patient conversations on that meme.

Social conservatism in Britain is not creationist, anti-abortion or racist as it is in Trumpland. It is mostly about harkening back to well paying jobs that required little formal education, backed up by council housing, the NHS and State pensions.

Remember that only a small minority of Britons use private medicine and that the shared social endeavour of the NHS is part of the reason it is so valued. The minority with any pension other than the state one is not much bigger.

Do people care more about the money being sent to the EU, or the money being sent to the NHS?

Luckyguy1983 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

kle4 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MP_SE said:

Ben Carson has accepted HUD secretary role. I am sure he will quickly be smeared with allegations of being a white nationalist anti-Semite...

https://twitter.com/dmartosko/status/801532341718044674

Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?

Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.

Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.

That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.

Ceationism is fascinating.

It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.

For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this

That cannot be genuine. Can it?

And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!

Genuine comments from creationists

Proof please.

I'm on a work laptop, so I'm not googling it, but I think searching something along the lines of 'creationist dinosaur museum homosexuality' will point you in the right direction.

Monksfield said:

Sean_F said:

Monksfield said:

chestnut said:

Monksfield said:

Well, one of the few things that made me shed tears this year was the murder of Jo Cox, so I'm ecstatic that the nazi scumbag that killed her has been locked up for life. Good riddance. Hopefully the security services will focus a bit more attention on these morons.

As for Labour, in view of their problems up front could they put in a big money bid for Caroline Lucas?

Labour could do with someone who can speak a foreign language - working class.

The working class really don't give a toss about climate change, carbon footprints, transgender issues and the troubles in Palestine.

What they will give a toss about, however is when the clusterfuck that is Brexit leaves them thousands of pounds worse off. Of course they'll forget they voted for it st that point and blame the eejits who lied to them. Ho ho ho.

There's no evidence that people will be thousands of pounds worth off.

You're asking us to take it on faith. Rather like creationism.

George Osborne said it, and the Autumn statement seemed to confirm it?

Hardly. The Autumn Statement points to continued economic growth.

Monksfield said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

kle4 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MP_SE said:

Ben Carson has accepted HUD secretary role. I am sure he will quickly be smeared with allegations of being a white nationalist anti-Semite...

https://twitter.com/dmartosko/status/801532341718044674

Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?

Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.

Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.

That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.

Ceationism is fascinating.

It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.

For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this

That cannot be genuine. Can it?

And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!

Genuine comments from creationists

Treating dinosaurs as one species is amusing in itself. Dim bulbs.

Not as dim as people who see an image with some bullet points and instantly believe it to be a genuine tract from a group of people on the basis of zero evidence. Apart from anything else, do you really think that dour, homophobic God-botherers go in for depictions of gay dinosaur sex?

Bigoted hatetheists believing any old shite because it massages their prejudices - exactly what they accuse others of.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

kle4 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MP_SE said:

Ben Carson has accepted HUD secretary role. I am sure he will quickly be smeared with allegations of being a white nationalist anti-Semite...

https://twitter.com/dmartosko/status/801532341718044674

Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?

Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.

Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.

That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.

Ceationism is fascinating.

It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.

For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this

That cannot be genuine. Can it?

And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!

Genuine comments from creationists

Proof please.

I'm on a work laptop, so I'm not googling it, but I think searching something along the lines of 'creationist dinosaur museum homosexuality' will point you in the right direction.

So how did you manage to post the image in the first place?

Luckyguy1983 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

kle4 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MP_SE said:

Ben Carson has accepted HUD secretary role. I am sure he will quickly be smeared with allegations of being a white nationalist anti-Semite...

https://twitter.com/dmartosko/status/801532341718044674

Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?

Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.

Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.

That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.

Ceationism is fascinating.

It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.

For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this

That cannot be genuine. Can it?

And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!

Genuine comments from creationists

Proof please.

I'm on a work laptop, so I'm not googling it, but I think searching something along the lines of 'creationist dinosaur museum homosexuality' will point you in the right direction.

So how did you manage to post the image in the first place?

I had it saved on here a while back

@Tyson

I doubt you can divide voters by reclining etiquette (!) but here goes my 2p.

I Brexited but wouldn't have Trumped. However, I do believe in reclining rules. Always look behind, never ever sudden movements (drinks can go everywhere), full reclining unless empty behind a no no. moderation in all so maybe a two notch recline is acceptable to sleep without cramping up the seat occupant behind?

Hammond is just so boring. Its really hard to listen to him as he carefully reads what others have written for him.

chestnut said:

tyson said:

After having just completed a number of plane trips across to and round the USA I was wondering if people here are recliners or non recliners.

The reason I ask is I believe there is a clue here to the mentality of people who vote Trump or Brexit...are they selfish, miserable, cannot give a fuck about other people who recline down without a care in the world....and I think more likely to support Trump/Brexit; or are they compassionate considerate folk who wouldn't dream of invading the space/upsetting a fellow human being....a Remainer or Liberal.

I think this is an interesting social survey.

"Tyson" - that's what chavs call their staffs.

Sean_F said:

Monksfield said:

Sean_F said:

Monksfield said:

chestnut said:

Monksfield said:

Well, one of the few things that made me shed tears this year was the murder of Jo Cox, so I'm ecstatic that the nazi scumbag that killed her has been locked up for life. Good riddance. Hopefully the security services will focus a bit more attention on these morons.

As for Labour, in view of their problems up front could they put in a big money bid for Caroline Lucas?

Labour could do with someone who can speak a foreign language - working class.

The working class really don't give a toss about climate change, carbon footprints, transgender issues and the troubles in Palestine.

What they will give a toss about, however is when the clusterfuck that is Brexit leaves them thousands of pounds worse off. Of course they'll forget they voted for it st that point and blame the eejits who lied to them. Ho ho ho.

There's no evidence that people will be thousands of pounds worth off.

You're asking us to take it on faith. Rather like creationism.

George Osborne said it, and the Autumn statement seemed to confirm it?

Hardly. The Autumn Statement points to continued economic growth.

You must have missed the bit about being 122bn worse off Sean. Or did you file it away as yesterdays news like the 350m for the NHS.

Italy — 22 consecutive polls with No in the lead, although it's not large in most of them:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Italian_constitutional_referendum,_2016

Monksfield said:

chestnut said:

tyson said:

After having just completed a number of plane trips across to and round the USA I was wondering if people here are recliners or non recliners.

The reason I ask is I believe there is a clue here to the mentality of people who vote Trump or Brexit...are they selfish, miserable, cannot give a fuck about other people who recline down without a care in the world....and I think more likely to support Trump/Brexit; or are they compassionate considerate folk who wouldn't dream of invading the space/upsetting a fellow human being....a Remainer or Liberal.

I think this is an interesting social survey.

"Tyson" - that's what chavs call their staffs.

Sean_F said:

Monksfield said:

Sean_F said:

Monksfield said:

chestnut said:

Monksfield said:

Well, one of the few things that made me shed tears this year was the murder of Jo Cox, so I'm ecstatic that the nazi scumbag that killed her has been locked up for life. Good riddance. Hopefully the security services will focus a bit more attention on these morons.

As for Labour, in view of their problems up front could they put in a big money bid for Caroline Lucas?

Labour could do with someone who can speak a foreign language - working class.

The working class really don't give a toss about climate change, carbon footprints, transgender issues and the troubles in Palestine.

What they will give a toss about, however is when the clusterfuck that is Brexit leaves them thousands of pounds worse off. Of course they'll forget they voted for it st that point and blame the eejits who lied to them. Ho ho ho.

There's no evidence that people will be thousands of pounds worth off.

You're asking us to take it on faith. Rather like creationism.

George Osborne said it, and the Autumn statement seemed to confirm it?

Hardly. The Autumn Statement points to continued economic growth.

You must have missed the bit about being 122bn worse off Sean. Or did you file it away as yesterdays news like the 350m for the NHS.

I did indeed miss that our economy will decline by £122 bn from today.

Sean_F said:

foxinsoxuk said:

RobD said:

foxinsoxuk said:

chestnut said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

I know we're not getting a second referendum, but if we did, I reckon this would be a referendum winning slogan

'Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead.'

Do people really believe the NHS matters that much to voters, still?

If it did, Labour would have waltzed home in 2010 and 2015.

Yes, I think it does, which is why the £350 million bus slogan worked. In my pre referendum anecdata I reported several overheard patient conversations on that meme.

Social conservatism in Britain is not creationist, anti-abortion or racist as it is in Trumpland. It is mostly about harkening back to well paying jobs that required little formal education, backed up by council housing, the NHS and State pensions.

Remember that only a small minority of Britons use private medicine and that the shared social endeavour of the NHS is part of the reason it is so valued. The minority with any pension other than the state one is not much bigger.

Do people care more about the money being sent to the EU, or the money being sent to the NHS?

Both, in my experience.

Of course it is not a zero sum game. While we stop paying the contributions (at least in some forms of Brexit) the money has vanished like the morning mist because of slower growth.

The truth is that there never will be any £350 million for the NHS nor anything else. It is gone with the wind.

It depends whether growth will turn out to be lower.

I think you'll struggle to find anyone on this small planet with any economic credibility saying that Brexit makes economic sense....

dr_spyn said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Twenty three days too late for Halloween

https://twitter.com/johnestevens/status/801523084008325120

Chocolate covered Brussels Sprouts.

Euro chocolates! Not good old imperal anglophone ones...

Luckyguy1983 said:

Monksfield said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

kle4 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MP_SE said:

Ben Carson has accepted HUD secretary role. I am sure he will quickly be smeared with allegations of being a white nationalist anti-Semite...

https://twitter.com/dmartosko/status/801532341718044674

Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?

Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.

Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.

That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.

Ceationism is fascinating.

It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.

For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this

That cannot be genuine. Can it?

And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!

Genuine comments from creationists

Treating dinosaurs as one species is amusing in itself. Dim bulbs.

Not as dim as people who see an image with some bullet points and instantly believe it to be a genuine tract from a group of people on the basis of zero evidence. Apart from anything else, do you really think that dour, homophobic God-botherers go in for depictions of gay dinosaur sex?

Bigoted hatetheists believing any old shite because it massages their prejudices - exactly what they accuse others of.

It is perfectly possible the quotes are genuine and somebody uploaded it onto a satirical image for effect. Though I have trouble believing the quotes are real in the absence of proof, your predilection for conspiracy theories makes your outrage less impactful; most theorists seem to think there can be only two options - either it is entirely true, or entirely false - when perhaps there's a bit more nuance to it.

And yes, before you ask, I don't care about upsetting Creationists with mockery; I know deeply deeply religious people who do the same, so I feel I'm on safe ground.

GIN1138 said:

Bring Back Balls!

We've had Glitter Balls and Flaming Balls, what about Sterling Balls?

TheScreamingEagles said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

kle4 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MP_SE said:

Ben Carson has accepted HUD secretary role. I am sure he will quickly be smeared with allegations of being a white nationalist anti-Semite...

https://twitter.com/dmartosko/status/801532341718044674

Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?

Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.

Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.

That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.

Ceationism is fascinating.

It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.

For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this

That cannot be genuine. Can it?

And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!

Genuine comments from creationists

Proof please.

I'm on a work laptop, so I'm not googling it, but I think searching something along the lines of 'creationist dinosaur museum homosexuality' will point you in the right direction.

What are you afraid your search would throw up?

@Kle4

I believe the quotes are from Ken Ham, who is a creationist, who in the past has said things like dinosaurs were on the Ark with Noah.

Dinosaurs first existed around 6,000 years ago. Because dinosaurs were land animals, and God made all the land animals on day six of the creation week, dinosaurs were created on day six. Dinosaurs could not have died out before this time because death, bloodshed, disease and suffering is a result of Adam's sin. Adam and Eve were also made on day six alongside the dinosaurs - so dinosaurs lived with people.

Representatives of all the KINDS of land animals, including the dinosaur kinds went on board Noah's ark. All those that were left behind drowned in the cataclysmic circumstances of the Flood - many of their remains became fossils. After the Flood (around 4,500 years ago), the land animals (including dinosaurs) came off the ark and lived in the present world, beside people. Because of sin, the judgement of the curse and the effects of the Flood have greatly changed the earth. Since the Flood, many animals have died out from diseases, a lack of food, etc. The dinosaurs, like many other creatures, seem to have also died out

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ken_Ham#Great_Dinosaur_Mystery_Solved.21_.282000.29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Ham

He also came out with this doozie

The Bible states that two of every kind of land animal and seven of some went onto the Ark. It doesn’t say two of every species went onto the Ark but “kinds.” There are thousands of species of dinosaurs, but there are only about fifty families of dinosaurs. And since the biblical kind is thought to correspond to the family level in most cases, there would have been only about one hundred dinosaurs on the Ark—not thousands.

For instance, there are many different long-neck sauropods, such as Brachiosaurus, Camarasaurus, Saltasaurus, and Diplodocus, but only two needed to go onto the Ark if they were just one kind. This fact dramatically reduces the estimated number of dinosaurs on the Ark. Also, even though some dinosaurs grew to be large creatures, the average size was only about the size of a large sheep or bison. Even the largest dinosaurs were quite small when hatched. The Lord may have selected younger (and therefore smaller) representatives of some of the larger kinds, so there was plenty of room for all of the dinosaur kinds aboard the Ark.

If dinosaurs sailed on the Ark, where are they today? Different animal species become extinct every day for various reasons. After the Flood, the environment and habitat were drastically changed. Many dinosaurs may not have been as suited to the post-Flood world because of these changes. Interestingly, it appears that some of the dinosaur kinds that did survive a long time after the Flood became known as dragons. Dragon legends abound all over the world.

http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/answers-in-genesis/read/articles/dinosaurs-on-the-ark-16285.html

Britain needs an opposition far better than Labour is providing

If only we had Dim Farron

I'm going for Gritty McGritface

https://twitter.com/OldhamCouncil/status/801531107795726338

MP_SE said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

I'm going for Gritty McGritface

https://twitter.com/OldhamCouncil/status/801531107795726338

Someone commenting on that tweet suggested Gary Gritter.

But that would only do minor roads?

TheScreamingEagles said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

kle4 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MP_SE said:

Ben Carson has accepted HUD secretary role. I am sure he will quickly be smeared with allegations of being a white nationalist anti-Semite...

https://twitter.com/dmartosko/status/801532341718044674

Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?

Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.

Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.

That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.

Ceationism is fascinating.

It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.

For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this

That cannot be genuine. Can it?

And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!

Genuine comments from creationists

Proof please.

I'm on a work laptop, so I'm not googling it, but I think searching something along the lines of 'creationist dinosaur museum homosexuality' will point you in the right direction.

So how did you manage to post the image in the first place?

I had it saved on here a while back

I Googled. The statements originate from the forum here:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=88288

Which is a SPOOF website and forum:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landover_Baptist_Church

Without even looking it up this was OBVIOUSLY satire; you'd have to be deluded to think anything else.

TheScreamingEagles said:

@Kle4

I believe the quotes are from Ken Ham, who is a creationist, who in the past has said things like dinosaurs were on the Ark with Noah.

Dinosaurs first existed around 6,000 years ago. Because dinosaurs were land animals, and God made all the land animals on day six of the creation week, dinosaurs were created on day six. Dinosaurs could not have died out before this time because death, bloodshed, disease and suffering is a result of Adam's sin. Adam and Eve were also made on day six alongside the dinosaurs - so dinosaurs lived with people.

Representatives of all the KINDS of land animals, including the dinosaur kinds went on board Noah's ark. All

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ken_Ham#Great_Dinosaur_Mystery_Solved.21_.282000.29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Ham

He also came out with this doozie

The Bible states that two of every kind of land animal and seven of some went onto the Ark. It doesn’t say two of every species went onto the Ark but “kinds.” There are thousands of species of dinosaurs, but there are only about fifty families of dinosaurs. And since the biblical kind is thought to correspond to the family level in most cases, there would have been only about one hundred dinosaurs on the Ark—not thousands.

For instance, there are many different long-neck sauropods, such as Brachiosaurus, Camarasaurus, Saltasaurus, and Diplodocus, but only two needed to go onto the Ark if they were just one kind. This fact dramatically reduces the estimated number of dinosaurs on the Ark. Also, even though some dinosaurs grew to be large creatures, the average size was only about the size of a large sheep or bison. Even the largest dinosaurs were quite small when hatched. The Lord may have selected younger (and therefore smaller) representatives of some of the larger kinds, so there was plenty of room for all of the dinosaur kinds aboard the Ark.

If dinosaurs sailed on the Ark, where are they today? Different animal species become extinct every day for various reasons. After the Flood, the environment and habitat were drastically changed. Many dinosaurs may not have been as suited to the post-Flood world because of these changes. Interestingly, it appears that some of the dinosaur kinds that did survive a long time after the Flood became known as dragons. Dragon legends abound all over the world.

http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/answers-in-genesis/read/articles/dinosaurs-on-the-ark-16285.html

There is this:

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/homosexuality-led-to-extinction-of-dinosaurs-claims-top-scientist/

Though the world news daily report does not seem to be part of the MSM.

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

@Kle4

I believe the quotes are from Ken Ham, who is a creationist, who in the past has said things like dinosaurs were on the Ark with Noah.

Dinosaurs first existed around 6,000 years ago. Because dinosaurs were land animals, and God made all the land animals on day six of the creation week, dinosaurs were created on day six. Dinosaurs could not have died out before this time because death, bloodshed, disease and suffering is a result of Adam's sin. Adam and Eve were also made on day six alongside the dinosaurs - so dinosaurs lived with people.

Representatives of all the KINDS of land animals, including the dinosaur kinds went on board Noah's ark. All

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ken_Ham#Great_Dinosaur_Mystery_Solved.21_.282000.29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Ham

He also came out with this doozie

The Bible states that two of every kind of land animal and seven of some went onto the Ark. It doesn’t say two of every species went onto the Ark but “kinds.” There are thousands of species of dinosaurs, but there are only about fifty families of dinosaurs. And since the biblical kind is thought to correspond to the family level in most cases, there would have been only about one hundred dinosaurs on the Ark—not thousands.

For instance, there are many different long-neck sauropods, such as Brachiosaurus, Camarasaurus, Saltasaurus, and Diplodocus, but only two needed to go onto the Ark if they were just one kind. This fact dramatically reduces the estimated number of dinosaurs on the Ark. Also, even though some dinosaurs grew to be large creatures, the average size was only about the size of a large sheep or bison. Even the largest dinosaurs were quite small when hatched. The Lord may have selected younger (and therefore smaller) representatives of some of the larger kinds, so there was plenty of room for all of the dinosaur kinds aboard the Ark.

If dinosaurs sailed on the Ark, where are they today? Different animal species become extinct every day for various reasons. After the Flood, the environment and habitat were drastically changed. Many dinosaurs may not have been as suited to the post-Flood world because of these changes. Interestingly, it appears that some of the dinosaur kinds that did survive a long time after the Flood became known as dragons. Dragon legends abound all over the world.

http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/answers-in-genesis/read/articles/dinosaurs-on-the-ark-16285.html

There is this:

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/homosexuality-led-to-extinction-of-dinosaurs-claims-top-scientist/

Though the world news daily report does not seem to be part of the MSM.

No it isn't, because it's another satire site!

http://realorsatire.com/worldnewsdailyreport-com/

Sean_F said:

tyson said:

Sean_F said:

foxinsoxuk said:

RobD said:

foxinsoxuk said:

chestnut said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

I know we're not getting a second referendum, but if we did, I reckon this would be a referendum winning slogan

'Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead.'

Do people really believe the NHS matters that much to voters, still?

If it did, Labour would have waltzed home in 2010 and 2015.

Yes, I think it does, which is why the £350 million bus slogan worked. In my pre referendum anecdata I reported several overheard patient conversations on that meme.

Social conservatism in Britain is not creationist, anti-abortion or racist as it is in Trumpland. It is mostly about harkening back to well paying jobs that required little formal education, backed up by council housing, the NHS and State pensions.

Remember that only a small minority of Britons use private medicine and that the shared social endeavour of the NHS is part of the reason it is so valued. The minority with any pension other than the state one is not much bigger.

Do people care more about the money being sent to the EU, or the money being sent to the NHS?

Both, in my experience.

Of course it is not a zero sum game. While we stop paying the contributions (at least in some forms of Brexit) the money has vanished like the morning mist because of slower growth.

The truth is that there never will be any £350 million for the NHS nor anything else. It is gone with the wind.

It depends whether growth will turn out to be lower.

I think you'll struggle to find anyone on this small planet with any economic credibility saying that Brexit makes economic sense....

Economically, there's not much in it either way.

It is amusing to see guardianistas now believing Osborne's borrowing predictions are Holy Writ.

Since we are having fun tonight with gay dinosaurs, naming gritter trucks and ambassador Farage, my contribution:

https://twitter.com/senatorshoshana/status/801467050212425728

MarqueeMark said:

kle4 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MP_SE said:

Ben Carson has accepted HUD secretary role. I am sure he will quickly be smeared with allegations of being a white nationalist anti-Semite...

https://twitter.com/dmartosko/status/801532341718044674

Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?

Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.

Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.

That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.

Ceationism is fascinating.

It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.

For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this

That cannot be genuine. Can it?

And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!

That would be one hell of a Guy Pride parade though, if those boys turned up in rainbow hot pants.....

Guy Pride?

Your Freudian slip is showing...

Luckyguy1983 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

kle4 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

foxinsoxuk said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MP_SE said:

Ben Carson has accepted HUD secretary role. I am sure he will quickly be smeared with allegations of being a white nationalist anti-Semite...

https://twitter.com/dmartosko/status/801532341718044674

Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?

Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.

Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.

That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.

Ceationism is fascinating.

It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.

For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this

That cannot be genuine. Can it?

And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!

Genuine comments from creationists

Proof please.

I'm on a work laptop, so I'm not googling it, but I think searching something along the lines of 'creationist dinosaur museum homosexuality' will point you in the right direction.

So how did you manage to post the image in the first place?

I had it saved on here a while back

I Googled. The statements originate from the forum here:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=88288

Which is a SPOOF website and forum:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landover_Baptist_Church

Without even looking it up this was OBVIOUSLY satire; you'd have to be deluded to think anything else.

They were posted on Landover but they did not originate there. Here is the image posted months earlier on another forum.
http://emptyclosets.com/forum/current-events-world-news-lgbt-news/80090-homosexuality-killed-dinosaurs.html

I'm not saying it isnt a spoof but you haven't found the source.

Pulpstar said:

FFsake Jill Stein is delaying payouts on Michigan/Electoral college once again.

It's not enough that she got over 1 percent of the vote..

Was this Jeremy Corbyn ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqaQ_Bhgmrc

@debmattinson: Voters' greatest disappointment with #AutumnStatement is lack of £ for NHS. 'Why not use the £350m?' Asked one in @BritainThinks focus group

Scott_P said:

@debmattinson: Voters' greatest disappointment with #AutumnStatement is lack of £ for NHS. 'Why not use the £350m?' Asked one in @BritainThinks focus group

He'd had the idea after seeing it on a bus

Stein is going to hit that $2.5 million target quite quickly actually.

The probability of Michigan getting flipped is close to zero, mind.

Pulpstar said:

Stein is going to hit that $2.5 million target quite quickly actually.

The probability of Michigan getting flipped is close to zero, mind.

I've got a mate doing his nut because he bought Trump for a substantial figure on SpreadEx's ECV market which won't settle until all of the states are officially called.

another_richard said:

Re the vote fraud claims in the USA.

Here are the Democrat to Republican swings in the rust belt states:

WV 7.7%
IO 7.7%
OH 5.8%
MI 4.9%
MO 4.8%
IN 4.5%
WN 3.9%
KY 3.6%
PN 3.2%
MN 3.1%
IL 0.4%

Now if you had to select a couple for vote fraud checks which would you pick ?

IO=IA, PN=PA. I think!

RobD said:

another_richard said:

Re the vote fraud claims in the USA.

Here are the Democrat to Republican swings in the rust belt states:

WV 7.7%
IO 7.7%
OH 5.8%
MI 4.9%
MO 4.8%
IN 4.5%
WN 3.9%
KY 3.6%
PN 3.2%
MN 3.1%
IL 0.4%

Now if you had to select a couple for vote fraud checks which would you pick ?

IO=IA, PN=PA. I think!

I was just testing ;-)

MaxPB said:

Pulpstar said:

another_richard said:

Re the vote fraud claims in the USA.

Here are the Democrat to Republican swings in the rust belt states:

WV 7.7%
IO 7.7%
OH 5.8%
MI 4.9%
MO 4.8%
IN 4.5%
WN 3.9%
KY 3.6%
PN 3.2%
MN 3.1%
IL 0.4%

Now if you had to select a couple for vote fraud checks which would you pick ?

Curious that Cook County swings toward Hillary, yet Detroit, Philly and Milwaukee don't...

Obama effect.

Only if Obama had a negative personal vote in Illinois.

Though Hilary does actually come from Chicago so maybe she had a personal vote there.