Well, one of the few things that made me shed tears this year was the murder of Jo Cox, so I'm ecstatic that the nazi scumbag that killed her has been locked up for life. Good riddance. Hopefully the security services will focus a bit more attention on these morons.
As for Labour, in view of their problems up front could they put in a big money bid for Caroline Lucas?
Labour could do with someone who can speak a foreign language - working class.
The working class really don't give a toss about climate change, carbon footprints, transgender issues and the troubles in Palestine.
What they will give a toss about, however is when the clusterfuck that is Brexit leaves them thousands of pounds worse off. Of course they'll forget they voted for it st that point and blame the eejits who lied to them. Ho ho ho.
But even if we accept your premise that Brexit will be a fuck up, they won't be worse off, in terms of seeing less money in their pocket. The just won't have as much as some smart arse Remainers will tell them they could have had. And those Remainers will have as much of a hearing from the working class as they had in the summer of 2016.....
£1,000 per adult we're told. They'll realise eventually.
Trump says he’s going to get Apple to “build a big plant” in US
Trump indicated to columnist Thomas Friedman that he is going to double-down on bringing factory jobs back to America, especially in the Rust Belt from Michigan to Pennsylvania.
FRIEDMAN: Are you worried, though, that those companies will keep their factories here, but the jobs will be replaced by robots? TRUMP: They will, and we'll make the robots, too. [laughter]
Well, one of the few things that made me shed tears this year was the murder of Jo Cox, so I'm ecstatic that the nazi scumbag that killed her has been locked up for life. Good riddance. Hopefully the security services will focus a bit more attention on these morons.
As for Labour, in view of their problems up front could they put in a big money bid for Caroline Lucas?
Labour could do with someone who can speak a foreign language - working class.
The working class really don't give a toss about climate change, carbon footprints, transgender issues and the troubles in Palestine.
What they will give a toss about, however is when the clusterfuck that is Brexit leaves them thousands of pounds worse off. Of course they'll forget they voted for it st that point and blame the eejits who lied to them. Ho ho ho.
And that's why Labour are going nowhere useful. Cloth ears. They don't like their voters.
After having just completed a number of plane trips across to and round the USA I was wondering if people here are recliners or non recliners.
The reason I ask is I believe there is a clue here to the mentality of people who vote Trump or Brexit...are they selfish, miserable, cannot give a fuck about other people who recline down without a care in the world....and I think more likely to support Trump/Brexit; or are they compassionate considerate folk who wouldn't dream of invading the space/upsetting a fellow human being....a Remainer or Liberal.
Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?
Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.
Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.
That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.
Ceationism is fascinating.
It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.
For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this
That cannot be genuine. Can it?
And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!
Well, one of the few things that made me shed tears this year was the murder of Jo Cox, so I'm ecstatic that the nazi scumbag that killed her has been locked up for life. Good riddance. Hopefully the security services will focus a bit more attention on these morons.
As for Labour, in view of their problems up front could they put in a big money bid for Caroline Lucas?
Labour could do with someone who can speak a foreign language - working class.
The working class really don't give a toss about climate change, carbon footprints, transgender issues and the troubles in Palestine.
What they will give a toss about, however is when the clusterfuck that is Brexit leaves them thousands of pounds worse off. Of course they'll forget they voted for it st that point and blame the eejits who lied to them. Ho ho ho.
There's no evidence that people will be thousands of pounds worth off.
You're asking us to take it on faith. Rather like creationism.
After having just completed a number of plane trips across to and round the USA I was wondering if people here are recliners or non recliners.
The reason I ask is I believe there is a clue here to the mentality of people who vote Trump or Brexit...are they selfish, miserable, cannot give a fuck about other people who recline down without a care in the world....and I think more likely to support Trump/Brexit; or are they compassionate considerate folk who wouldn't dream of invading the space/upsetting a fellow human being....a Remainer or Liberal.
Well, one of the few things that made me shed tears this year was the murder of Jo Cox, so I'm ecstatic that the nazi scumbag that killed her has been locked up for life. Good riddance. Hopefully the security services will focus a bit more attention on these morons.
As for Labour, in view of their problems up front could they put in a big money bid for Caroline Lucas?
Labour could do with someone who can speak a foreign language - working class.
The working class really don't give a toss about climate change, carbon footprints, transgender issues and the troubles in Palestine.
What they will give a toss about, however is when the clusterfuck that is Brexit leaves them thousands of pounds worse off. Of course they'll forget they voted for it st that point and blame the eejits who lied to them. Ho ho ho.
If Brexit is a success, many more people will remember voting for it. If it is a clusterfuck, many will indeed forget voting for it. I'm working on my defence already, just in case.
Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?
Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.
Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.
That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.
Ceationism is fascinating.
It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.
For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this
That cannot be genuine. Can it?
And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!
After having just completed a number of plane trips across to and round the USA I was wondering if people here are recliners or non recliners.
The reason I ask is I believe there is a clue here to the mentality of people who vote Trump or Brexit...are they selfish, miserable, cannot give a fuck about other people who recline down without a care in the world....and I think more likely to support Trump/Brexit; or are they compassionate considerate folk who wouldn't dream of invading the space/upsetting a fellow human being....a Remainer or Liberal.
I think this is an interesting social survey.
I Brexited and would not dream of invading someone's personal space, I'd put up with anything short of another person jabbing their elbow into my face to avoid disturbing them.
Also, though I do not share this aspect of it, don't most Brexiters (and no few Remainers) worry about immigrants taking up their personal space?
After having just completed a number of plane trips across to and round the USA I was wondering if people here are recliners or non recliners.
The reason I ask is I believe there is a clue here to the mentality of people who vote Trump or Brexit...are they selfish, miserable, cannot give a fuck about other people who recline down without a care in the world....and I think more likely to support Trump/Brexit; or are they compassionate considerate folk who wouldn't dream of invading the space/upsetting a fellow human being....a Remainer or Liberal.
Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?
Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.
Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.
That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.
Ceationism is fascinating.
It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.
For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this
All Abrahamic extremists seem to be raging homophobes !
Well, one of the few things that made me shed tears this year was the murder of Jo Cox, so I'm ecstatic that the nazi scumbag that killed her has been locked up for life. Good riddance. Hopefully the security services will focus a bit more attention on these morons.
As for Labour, in view of their problems up front could they put in a big money bid for Caroline Lucas?
Labour could do with someone who can speak a foreign language - working class.
The working class really don't give a toss about climate change, carbon footprints, transgender issues and the troubles in Palestine.
What they will give a toss about, however is when the clusterfuck that is Brexit leaves them thousands of pounds worse off. Of course they'll forget they voted for it st that point and blame the eejits who lied to them. Ho ho ho.
And that's why Labour are going nowhere useful. Cloth ears. They don't like their voters.
Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?
Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.
Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.
That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.
Ceationism is fascinating.
It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.
For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this
That cannot be genuine. Can it?
And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!
Well, one of the few things that made me shed tears this year was the murder of Jo Cox, so I'm ecstatic that the nazi scumbag that killed her has been locked up for life. Good riddance. Hopefully the security services will focus a bit more attention on these morons.
As for Labour, in view of their problems up front could they put in a big money bid for Caroline Lucas?
Labour could do with someone who can speak a foreign language - working class.
The working class really don't give a toss about climate change, carbon footprints, transgender issues and the troubles in Palestine.
What they will give a toss about, however is when the clusterfuck that is Brexit leaves them thousands of pounds worse off. Of course they'll forget they voted for it st that point and blame the eejits who lied to them. Ho ho ho.
There's no evidence that people will be thousands of pounds worth off.
You're asking us to take it on faith. Rather like creationism.
George Osborne said it, and the Autumn statement seemed to confirm it?
Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?
Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.
Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.
That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.
Ceationism is fascinating.
It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.
For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this
That cannot be genuine. Can it?
And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!
Genuine comments from creationists
Treating dinosaurs as one species is amusing in itself. Dim bulbs.
I know we're not getting a second referendum, but if we did, I reckon this would be a referendum winning slogan
'Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead.'
Do people really believe the NHS matters that much to voters, still?
If it did, Labour would have waltzed home in 2010 and 2015.
Yes, I think it does, which is why the £350 million bus slogan worked. In my pre referendum anecdata I reported several overheard patient conversations on that meme.
Social conservatism in Britain is not creationist, anti-abortion or racist as it is in Trumpland. It is mostly about harkening back to well paying jobs that required little formal education, backed up by council housing, the NHS and State pensions.
Remember that only a small minority of Britons use private medicine and that the shared social endeavour of the NHS is part of the reason it is so valued. The minority with any pension other than the state one is not much bigger.
Well, one of the few things that made me shed tears this year was the murder of Jo Cox, so I'm ecstatic that the nazi scumbag that killed her has been locked up for life. Good riddance. Hopefully the security services will focus a bit more attention on these morons.
As for Labour, in view of their problems up front could they put in a big money bid for Caroline Lucas?
Labour could do with someone who can speak a foreign language - working class.
The working class really don't give a toss about climate change, carbon footprints, transgender issues and the troubles in Palestine.
What they will give a toss about, however is when the clusterfuck that is Brexit leaves them thousands of pounds worse off. Of course they'll forget they voted for it st that point and blame the eejits who lied to them. Ho ho ho.
There's no evidence that people will be thousands of pounds worth off.
You're asking us to take it on faith. Rather like creationism.
George Osborne said it, and the Autumn statement seemed to confirm it?
Very droll.
Osborne said it and some economists' forecast backed him up.
I know we're not getting a second referendum, but if we did, I reckon this would be a referendum winning slogan
'Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead.'
Do people really believe the NHS matters that much to voters, still?
If it did, Labour would have waltzed home in 2010 and 2015.
Yes, I think it does, which is why the £350 million bus slogan worked. In my pre referendum anecdata I reported several overheard patient conversations on that meme.
Social conservatism in Britain is not creationist, anti-abortion or racist as it is in Trumpland. It is mostly about harkening back to well paying jobs that required little formal education, backed up by council housing, the NHS and State pensions.
Remember that only a small minority of Britons use private medicine and that the shared social endeavour of the NHS is part of the reason it is so valued. The minority with any pension other than the state one is not much bigger.
Do people care more about the money being sent to the EU, or the money being sent to the NHS?
I know we're not getting a second referendum, but if we did, I reckon this would be a referendum winning slogan
'Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead.'
'The Remain supporting chancellor has cost us £61.3bn let's spend it on the NHS instead'
I reckon it will all come down to if we go Hard Brexit/WTO rules
Yeah, but I don't think hard Brexit will be £122bn bad. The government just had a huge set piece for expectations management and set an incredibly low baseline for Brexit to be considered a success. Just think, in the run up to 2020, even if its a crap deal the government would still be able to call it a success based on these figures that came immediately after the referendum.
Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?
Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.
Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.
That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.
Ceationism is fascinating.
It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.
For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this
That cannot be genuine. Can it?
And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!
Genuine comments from creationists
Proof please.
I'm on a work laptop, so I'm not googling it, but I think searching something along the lines of 'creationist dinosaur museum homosexuality' will point you in the right direction.
I know we're not getting a second referendum, but if we did, I reckon this would be a referendum winning slogan
'Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead.'
Do people really believe the NHS matters that much to voters, still?
If it did, Labour would have waltzed home in 2010 and 2015.
Yes, I think it does, which is why the £350 million bus slogan worked. In my pre referendum anecdata I reported several overheard patient conversations on that meme.
Social conservatism in Britain is not creationist, anti-abortion or racist as it is in Trumpland. It is mostly about harkening back to well paying jobs that required little formal education, backed up by council housing, the NHS and State pensions.
Remember that only a small minority of Britons use private medicine and that the shared social endeavour of the NHS is part of the reason it is so valued. The minority with any pension other than the state one is not much bigger.
Do people care more about the money being sent to the EU, or the money being sent to the NHS?
Both, in my experience.
Of course it is not a zero sum game. While we stop paying the contributions (at least in some forms of Brexit) the money has vanished like the morning mist because of slower growth.
The truth is that there never will be any £350 million for the NHS nor anything else. It is gone with the wind.
Well, one of the few things that made me shed tears this year was the murder of Jo Cox, so I'm ecstatic that the nazi scumbag that killed her has been locked up for life. Good riddance. Hopefully the security services will focus a bit more attention on these morons.
As for Labour, in view of their problems up front could they put in a big money bid for Caroline Lucas?
Labour could do with someone who can speak a foreign language - working class.
The working class really don't give a toss about climate change, carbon footprints, transgender issues and the troubles in Palestine.
What they will give a toss about, however is when the clusterfuck that is Brexit leaves them thousands of pounds worse off. Of course they'll forget they voted for it st that point and blame the eejits who lied to them. Ho ho ho.
There's no evidence that people will be thousands of pounds worth off.
You're asking us to take it on faith. Rather like creationism.
George Osborne said it, and the Autumn statement seemed to confirm it?
Hardly. The Autumn Statement points to continued economic growth.
I've never heard a soul say they voted Leave because of this. Not one. I suspect some people are humouring their audience, especially if they perceive them to be pro-EU, when they say it did.
Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?
Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.
Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.
That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.
Ceationism is fascinating.
It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.
For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this
That cannot be genuine. Can it?
And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!
Genuine comments from creationists
Treating dinosaurs as one species is amusing in itself. Dim bulbs.
Not as dim as people who see an image with some bullet points and instantly believe it to be a genuine tract from a group of people on the basis of zero evidence. Apart from anything else, do you really think that dour, homophobic God-botherers go in for depictions of gay dinosaur sex?
Bigoted hatetheists believing any old shite because it massages their prejudices - exactly what they accuse others of.
I know we're not getting a second referendum, but if we did, I reckon this would be a referendum winning slogan
'Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead.'
Do people really believe the NHS matters that much to voters, still?
If it did, Labour would have waltzed home in 2010 and 2015.
Yes, I think it does, which is why the £350 million bus slogan worked. In my pre referendum anecdata I reported several overheard patient conversations on that meme.
Social conservatism in Britain is not creationist, anti-abortion or racist as it is in Trumpland. It is mostly about harkening back to well paying jobs that required little formal education, backed up by council housing, the NHS and State pensions.
Remember that only a small minority of Britons use private medicine and that the shared social endeavour of the NHS is part of the reason it is so valued. The minority with any pension other than the state one is not much bigger.
Do people care more about the money being sent to the EU, or the money being sent to the NHS?
Both, in my experience.
Of course it is not a zero sum game. While we stop paying the contributions (at least in some forms of Brexit) the money has vanished like the morning mist because of slower growth.
The truth is that there never will be any £350 million for the NHS nor anything else. It is gone with the wind.
The money has only vanished if growth is permanently lower. The forecast today had it going back to trend towards the end of the forecast period. So we'll be growing at a similar rate, without having to pay however many billions per year on aid to other EU countries. Sounds like a net gain for the economy.
Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?
Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.
Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.
That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.
Ceationism is fascinating.
It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.
For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this
That cannot be genuine. Can it?
And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!
Genuine comments from creationists
Proof please.
I'm on a work laptop, so I'm not googling it, but I think searching something along the lines of 'creationist dinosaur museum homosexuality' will point you in the right direction.
So how did you manage to post the image in the first place?
I've never heard a soul say they voted Leave because of this. Not one. I suspect some people are humouring their audience, especially if they perceive them to be pro-EU, when they say it did.
I certainly overheard it in conversations in the waiting room, though obviously conversations are more likely to turn that way amongst patients watching overstretched staff, compared with conversations elsewhere.
Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?
Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.
Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.
That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.
Ceationism is fascinating.
It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.
For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this
That cannot be genuine. Can it?
And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!
Genuine comments from creationists
Proof please.
I'm on a work laptop, so I'm not googling it, but I think searching something along the lines of 'creationist dinosaur museum homosexuality' will point you in the right direction.
So how did you manage to post the image in the first place?
Rupert Murdoch says that under the reign of Trump the strongest voice in the White House after the vice-president's may belong to a man who owns a New York skyscraper with the address 666 Fifth Avenue. The building houses the headquarters of the man's business empire, and according to Forbes magazine it has mezuzahs over every office door. (That's a lot of instances of the words that say in Hebrew "Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God, the Lord is one".) Oh and this powerful man in the "impeccably tailored suit" is married to Trump's daughter. Yes, it's Jared Kushner.
The article I just linked to is partly puff but it's interesting for its information about just how hot Donald Trump's campaign actually was.
Marine Le Pen is a politican and in that respect not comparable to Donald Trump. One needs to watch for her running a similarly hot campaign, and if she does I doubt whether many media commentators on either side of the Channel will be able to get their heads round it.
I doubt you can divide voters by reclining etiquette (!) but here goes my 2p.
I Brexited but wouldn't have Trumped. However, I do believe in reclining rules. Always look behind, never ever sudden movements (drinks can go everywhere), full reclining unless empty behind a no no. moderation in all so maybe a two notch recline is acceptable to sleep without cramping up the seat occupant behind?
I know we're not getting a second referendum, but if we did, I reckon this would be a referendum winning slogan
'Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead.'
Do people really believe the NHS matters that much to voters, still?
If it did, Labour would have waltzed home in 2010 and 2015.
Yes, I think it does, which is why the £350 million bus slogan worked. In my pre referendum anecdata I reported several overheard patient conversations on that meme.
Social conservatism in Britain is not creationist, anti-abortion or racist as it is in Trumpland. It is mostly about harkening back to well paying jobs that required little formal education, backed up by council housing, the NHS and State pensions.
Remember that only a small minority of Britons use private medicine and that the shared social endeavour of the NHS is part of the reason it is so valued. The minority with any pension other than the state one is not much bigger.
Do people care more about the money being sent to the EU, or the money being sent to the NHS?
Both, in my experience.
Of course it is not a zero sum game. While we stop paying the contributions (at least in some forms of Brexit) the money has vanished like the morning mist because of slower growth.
The truth is that there never will be any £350 million for the NHS nor anything else. It is gone with the wind.
It depends whether growth will turn out to be lower.
I know we're not getting a second referendum, but if we did, I reckon this would be a referendum winning slogan
'Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead.'
Do people really believe the NHS matters that much to voters, still?
If it did, Labour would have waltzed home in 2010 and 2015.
Yes, I think it does, which is why the £350 million bus slogan worked. In my pre referendum anecdata I reported several overheard patient conversations on that meme.
Social conservatism in Britain is not creationist, anti-abortion or racist as it is in Trumpland. It is mostly about harkening back to well paying jobs that required little formal education, backed up by council housing, the NHS and State pensions.
Remember that only a small minority of Britons use private medicine and that the shared social endeavour of the NHS is part of the reason it is so valued. The minority with any pension other than the state one is not much bigger.
Do people care more about the money being sent to the EU, or the money being sent to the NHS?
Both, in my experience.
Of course it is not a zero sum game. While we stop paying the contributions (at least in some forms of Brexit) the money has vanished like the morning mist because of slower growth.
The truth is that there never will be any £350 million for the NHS nor anything else. It is gone with the wind.
The money has only vanished if growth is permanently lower. The forecast today had it going back to trend towards the end of the forecast period. So we'll be growing at a similar rate, without having to pay however many billions per year on aid to other EU countries. Sounds like a net gain for the economy.
We would only regain the money if growth accelerated post Brexit, over historic trend and forecasts, in order to cross the slopes have to be not parallel.
After having just completed a number of plane trips across to and round the USA I was wondering if people here are recliners or non recliners.
The reason I ask is I believe there is a clue here to the mentality of people who vote Trump or Brexit...are they selfish, miserable, cannot give a fuck about other people who recline down without a care in the world....and I think more likely to support Trump/Brexit; or are they compassionate considerate folk who wouldn't dream of invading the space/upsetting a fellow human being....a Remainer or Liberal.
Well, one of the few things that made me shed tears this year was the murder of Jo Cox, so I'm ecstatic that the nazi scumbag that killed her has been locked up for life. Good riddance. Hopefully the security services will focus a bit more attention on these morons.
As for Labour, in view of their problems up front could they put in a big money bid for Caroline Lucas?
Labour could do with someone who can speak a foreign language - working class.
The working class really don't give a toss about climate change, carbon footprints, transgender issues and the troubles in Palestine.
What they will give a toss about, however is when the clusterfuck that is Brexit leaves them thousands of pounds worse off. Of course they'll forget they voted for it st that point and blame the eejits who lied to them. Ho ho ho.
There's no evidence that people will be thousands of pounds worth off.
You're asking us to take it on faith. Rather like creationism.
George Osborne said it, and the Autumn statement seemed to confirm it?
Hardly. The Autumn Statement points to continued economic growth.
You must have missed the bit about being 122bn worse off Sean. Or did you file it away as yesterdays news like the 350m for the NHS.
I know we're not getting a second referendum, but if we did, I reckon this would be a referendum winning slogan
'Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead.'
Do people really believe the NHS matters that much to voters, still?
If it did, Labour would have waltzed home in 2010 and 2015.
Yes, I think it does, which is why the £350 million bus slogan worked. In my pre referendum anecdata I reported several overheard patient conversations on that meme.
Social conservatism in Britain is not creationist, anti-abortion or racist as it is in Trumpland. It is mostly about harkening back to well paying jobs that required little formal education, backed up by council housing, the NHS and State pensions.
Remember that only a small minority of Britons use private medicine and that the shared social endeavour of the NHS is part of the reason it is so valued. The minority with any pension other than the state one is not much bigger.
Do people care more about the money being sent to the EU, or the money being sent to the NHS?
Both, in my experience.
Of course it is not a zero sum game. While we stop paying the contributions (at least in some forms of Brexit) the money has vanished like the morning mist because of slower growth.
The truth is that there never will be any £350 million for the NHS nor anything else. It is gone with the wind.
The money has only vanished if growth is permanently lower. The forecast today had it going back to trend towards the end of the forecast period. So we'll be growing at a similar rate, without having to pay however many billions per year on aid to other EU countries. Sounds like a net gain for the economy.
We would only regain the money if growth accelerated post Brexit, over historic trend and forecasts, in order to cross the slopes have to be not parallel.
Does that ignore the fact we will no longer be sending billions a year to the EU? After not being in the EU for a hundred years we will have not sent on the order of a trillion pounds. So if growth is the same, where did that money go?
After having just completed a number of plane trips across to and round the USA I was wondering if people here are recliners or non recliners.
The reason I ask is I believe there is a clue here to the mentality of people who vote Trump or Brexit...are they selfish, miserable, cannot give a fuck about other people who recline down without a care in the world....and I think more likely to support Trump/Brexit; or are they compassionate considerate folk who wouldn't dream of invading the space/upsetting a fellow human being....a Remainer or Liberal.
Well, one of the few things that made me shed tears this year was the murder of Jo Cox, so I'm ecstatic that the nazi scumbag that killed her has been locked up for life. Good riddance. Hopefully the security services will focus a bit more attention on these morons.
As for Labour, in view of their problems up front could they put in a big money bid for Caroline Lucas?
Labour could do with someone who can speak a foreign language - working class.
The working class really don't give a toss about climate change, carbon footprints, transgender issues and the troubles in Palestine.
What they will give a toss about, however is when the clusterfuck that is Brexit leaves them thousands of pounds worse off. Of course they'll forget they voted for it st that point and blame the eejits who lied to them. Ho ho ho.
There's no evidence that people will be thousands of pounds worth off.
You're asking us to take it on faith. Rather like creationism.
George Osborne said it, and the Autumn statement seemed to confirm it?
Hardly. The Autumn Statement points to continued economic growth.
You must have missed the bit about being 122bn worse off Sean. Or did you file it away as yesterdays news like the 350m for the NHS.
I did indeed miss that our economy will decline by £122 bn from today.
I know we're not getting a second referendum, but if we did, I reckon this would be a referendum winning slogan
'Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead.'
Do people really believe the NHS matters that much to voters, still?
If it did, Labour would have waltzed home in 2010 and 2015.
Yes, I think it does, which is why the £350 million bus slogan worked. In my pre referendum anecdata I reported several overheard patient conversations on that meme.
Social conservatism in Britain is not creationist, anti-abortion or racist as it is in Trumpland. It is mostly about harkening back to well paying jobs that required little formal education, backed up by council housing, the NHS and State pensions.
Remember that only a small minority of Britons use private medicine and that the shared social endeavour of the NHS is part of the reason it is so valued. The minority with any pension other than the state one is not much bigger.
Do people care more about the money being sent to the EU, or the money being sent to the NHS?
Both, in my experience.
Of course it is not a zero sum game. While we stop paying the contributions (at least in some forms of Brexit) the money has vanished like the morning mist because of slower growth.
The truth is that there never will be any £350 million for the NHS nor anything else. It is gone with the wind.
The money has only vanished if growth is permanently lower. The forecast today had it going back to trend towards the end of the forecast period. So we'll be growing at a similar rate, without having to pay however many billions per year on aid to other EU countries. Sounds like a net gain for the economy.
We would only regain the money if growth accelerated post Brexit, over historic trend and forecasts, in order to cross the slopes have to be not parallel.
Does that ignore the fact we will no longer be sending billions a year to the EU? After not being in the EU for a hundred years we will have not sent on the order of a trillion pounds. So if growth is the same, where did that money go?
The money never existed because the economy was smaller throughout.
You are correct in saying that the amount of money would stretch to a trillion in time, if the growth remained on the same slope as before, but delayed by a couple of years. That is the magic of compounding (or in the case of Brexit a delay in compounding).
Or to put it another way, I can never catch up with my brothers age no matter how long we both live!
I know we're not getting a second referendum, but if we did, I reckon this would be a referendum winning slogan
'Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead.'
Do people really believe the NHS matters that much to voters, still?
If it did, Labour would have waltzed home in 2010 and 2015.
Yes, I think it does, which is why the £350 million bus slogan worked. In my pre referendum anecdata I reported several overheard patient conversations on that meme.
Social conservatism in Britain is not creationist, anti-abortion or racist as it is in Trumpland. It is mostly about harkening back to well paying jobs that required little formal education, backed up by council housing, the NHS and State pensions.
Remember that only a small minority of Britons use private medicine and that the shared social endeavour of the NHS is part of the reason it is so valued. The minority with any pension other than the state one is not much bigger.
Do people care more about the money being sent to the EU, or the money being sent to the NHS?
Both, in my experience.
Of course it is not a zero sum game. While we stop paying the contributions (at least in some forms of Brexit) the money has vanished like the morning mist because of slower growth.
The truth is that there never will be any £350 million for the NHS nor anything else. It is gone with the wind.
It depends whether growth will turn out to be lower.
I think you'll struggle to find anyone on this small planet with any economic credibility saying that Brexit makes economic sense....
I did indeed miss that our economy will decline by £122 bn from today.
Look how many times the £4,300 figure has been quoted as though it would be a loss. When in reality it was based on a difference between two scenarios of 31% and 37% growth by 2030. Not that we should take any long term economic forecasts seriously.
Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?
Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.
Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.
That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.
Ceationism is fascinating.
It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.
For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this
That cannot be genuine. Can it?
And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!
Genuine comments from creationists
Treating dinosaurs as one species is amusing in itself. Dim bulbs.
Not as dim as people who see an image with some bullet points and instantly believe it to be a genuine tract from a group of people on the basis of zero evidence. Apart from anything else, do you really think that dour, homophobic God-botherers go in for depictions of gay dinosaur sex?
Bigoted hatetheists believing any old shite because it massages their prejudices - exactly what they accuse others of.
It is perfectly possible the quotes are genuine and somebody uploaded it onto a satirical image for effect. Though I have trouble believing the quotes are real in the absence of proof, your predilection for conspiracy theories makes your outrage less impactful; most theorists seem to think there can be only two options - either it is entirely true, or entirely false - when perhaps there's a bit more nuance to it.
And yes, before you ask, I don't care about upsetting Creationists with mockery; I know deeply deeply religious people who do the same, so I feel I'm on safe ground.
Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?
Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.
Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.
That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.
Ceationism is fascinating.
It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.
For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this
That cannot be genuine. Can it?
And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!
Genuine comments from creationists
Treating dinosaurs as one species is amusing in itself. Dim bulbs.
Not as dim as people who see an image with some bullet points and instantly believe it to be a genuine tract from a group of people on the basis of zero evidence. Apart from anything else, do you really think that dour, homophobic God-botherers go in for depictions of gay dinosaur sex?
Bigoted hatetheists believing any old shite because it massages their prejudices - exactly what they accuse others of.
It is perfectly possible the quotes are genuine and somebody uploaded it onto a satirical image for effect. Though I have trouble believing the quotes are real in the absence of proof, your predilection for conspiracy theories makes your outrage less impactful; most theorists seem to think there can be only two options - either it is entirely true, or entirely false - when perhaps there's a bit more nuance to it.
And yes, before you ask, I don't care about upsetting Creationists with mockery; I know deeply deeply religious people who do the same, so I feel I'm on safe ground.
Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?
Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.
Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.
That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.
Ceationism is fascinating.
It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.
For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this
That cannot be genuine. Can it?
And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!
Genuine comments from creationists
Proof please.
I'm on a work laptop, so I'm not googling it, but I think searching something along the lines of 'creationist dinosaur museum homosexuality' will point you in the right direction.
I believe the quotes are from Ken Ham, who is a creationist, who in the past has said things like dinosaurs were on the Ark with Noah.
Dinosaurs first existed around 6,000 years ago. Because dinosaurs were land animals, and God made all the land animals on day six of the creation week, dinosaurs were created on day six. Dinosaurs could not have died out before this time because death, bloodshed, disease and suffering is a result of Adam's sin. Adam and Eve were also made on day six alongside the dinosaurs - so dinosaurs lived with people.
Representatives of all the KINDS of land animals, including the dinosaur kinds went on board Noah's ark. All those that were left behind drowned in the cataclysmic circumstances of the Flood - many of their remains became fossils. After the Flood (around 4,500 years ago), the land animals (including dinosaurs) came off the ark and lived in the present world, beside people. Because of sin, the judgement of the curse and the effects of the Flood have greatly changed the earth. Since the Flood, many animals have died out from diseases, a lack of food, etc. The dinosaurs, like many other creatures, seem to have also died out
The Bible states that two of every kind of land animal and seven of some went onto the Ark. It doesn’t say two of every species went onto the Ark but “kinds.” There are thousands of species of dinosaurs, but there are only about fifty families of dinosaurs. And since the biblical kind is thought to correspond to the family level in most cases, there would have been only about one hundred dinosaurs on the Ark—not thousands.
For instance, there are many different long-neck sauropods, such as Brachiosaurus, Camarasaurus, Saltasaurus, and Diplodocus, but only two needed to go onto the Ark if they were just one kind. This fact dramatically reduces the estimated number of dinosaurs on the Ark. Also, even though some dinosaurs grew to be large creatures, the average size was only about the size of a large sheep or bison. Even the largest dinosaurs were quite small when hatched. The Lord may have selected younger (and therefore smaller) representatives of some of the larger kinds, so there was plenty of room for all of the dinosaur kinds aboard the Ark.
If dinosaurs sailed on the Ark, where are they today? Different animal species become extinct every day for various reasons. After the Flood, the environment and habitat were drastically changed. Many dinosaurs may not have been as suited to the post-Flood world because of these changes. Interestingly, it appears that some of the dinosaur kinds that did survive a long time after the Flood became known as dragons. Dragon legends abound all over the world.
I know we're not getting a second referendum, but if we did, I reckon this would be a referendum winning slogan
'Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead.'
Do people really believe the NHS matters that much to voters, still?
If it did, Labour would have waltzed home in 2010 and 2015.
Yes, I think it does, which is why the £350 million bus slogan worked. In my pre referendum anecdata I reported several overheard patient conversations on that meme.
Social conservatism in Britain is not creationist, anti-abortion or racist as it is in Trumpland. It is mostly about harkening back to well paying jobs that required little formal education, backed up by council housing, the NHS and State pensions.
Remember that only a small minority of Britons use private medicine and that the shared social endeavour of the NHS is part of the reason it is so valued. The minority with any pension other than the state one is not much bigger.
Do people care more about the money being sent to the EU, or the money being sent to the NHS?
Both, in my experience.
Of course it is not a zero sum game. While we stop paying the contributions (at least in some forms of Brexit) the money has vanished like the morning mist because of slower growth.
The truth is that there never will be any £350 million for the NHS nor anything else. It is gone with the wind.
It depends whether growth will turn out to be lower.
I think you'll struggle to find anyone on this small planet with any economic credibility saying that Brexit makes economic sense....
Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?
Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.
Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.
That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.
Ceationism is fascinating.
It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.
For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this
That cannot be genuine. Can it?
And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!
Genuine comments from creationists
Proof please.
I'm on a work laptop, so I'm not googling it, but I think searching something along the lines of 'creationist dinosaur museum homosexuality' will point you in the right direction.
What are you afraid your search would throw up?
A few months ago, for a PB thread I was writing, I googled 'Do bears have foreskins' and it brought up all sorts of gay hook up sites WITH PICTURES AND VIDEOS because I forgot a bear is a certain type of gay man.
Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?
Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.
Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.
That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.
Ceationism is fascinating.
It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.
For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this
That cannot be genuine. Can it?
And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!
Genuine comments from creationists
Proof please.
I'm on a work laptop, so I'm not googling it, but I think searching something along the lines of 'creationist dinosaur museum homosexuality' will point you in the right direction.
So how did you manage to post the image in the first place?
I had it saved on here a while back
I Googled. The statements originate from the forum here:
I believe the quotes are from Ken Ham, who is a creationist, who in the past has said things like dinosaurs were on the Ark with Noah.
Dinosaurs first existed around 6,000 years ago. Because dinosaurs were land animals, and God made all the land animals on day six of the creation week, dinosaurs were created on day six. Dinosaurs could not have died out before this time because death, bloodshed, disease and suffering is a result of Adam's sin. Adam and Eve were also made on day six alongside the dinosaurs - so dinosaurs lived with people.
Representatives of all the KINDS of land animals, including the dinosaur kinds went on board Noah's ark. All
The Bible states that two of every kind of land animal and seven of some went onto the Ark. It doesn’t say two of every species went onto the Ark but “kinds.” There are thousands of species of dinosaurs, but there are only about fifty families of dinosaurs. And since the biblical kind is thought to correspond to the family level in most cases, there would have been only about one hundred dinosaurs on the Ark—not thousands.
For instance, there are many different long-neck sauropods, such as Brachiosaurus, Camarasaurus, Saltasaurus, and Diplodocus, but only two needed to go onto the Ark if they were just one kind. This fact dramatically reduces the estimated number of dinosaurs on the Ark. Also, even though some dinosaurs grew to be large creatures, the average size was only about the size of a large sheep or bison. Even the largest dinosaurs were quite small when hatched. The Lord may have selected younger (and therefore smaller) representatives of some of the larger kinds, so there was plenty of room for all of the dinosaur kinds aboard the Ark.
If dinosaurs sailed on the Ark, where are they today? Different animal species become extinct every day for various reasons. After the Flood, the environment and habitat were drastically changed. Many dinosaurs may not have been as suited to the post-Flood world because of these changes. Interestingly, it appears that some of the dinosaur kinds that did survive a long time after the Flood became known as dragons. Dragon legends abound all over the world.
I believe the quotes are from Ken Ham, who is a creationist, who in the past has said things like dinosaurs were on the Ark with Noah.
Dinosaurs first existed around 6,000 years ago. Because dinosaurs were land animals, and God made all the land animals on day six of the creation week, dinosaurs were created on day six. Dinosaurs could not have died out before this time because death, bloodshed, disease and suffering is a result of Adam's sin. Adam and Eve were also made on day six alongside the dinosaurs - so dinosaurs lived with people.
Representatives of all the KINDS of land animals, including the dinosaur kinds went on board Noah's ark. All
The Bible states that two of every kind of land animal and seven of some went onto the Ark. It doesn’t say two of every species went onto the Ark but “kinds.” There are thousands of species of dinosaurs, but there are only about fifty families of dinosaurs. And since the biblical kind is thought to correspond to the family level in most cases, there would have been only about one hundred dinosaurs on the Ark—not thousands.
For instance, there are many different long-neck sauropods, such as Brachiosaurus, Camarasaurus, Saltasaurus, and Diplodocus, but only two needed to go onto the Ark if they were just one kind. This fact dramatically reduces the estimated number of dinosaurs on the Ark. Also, even though some dinosaurs grew to be large creatures, the average size was only about the size of a large sheep or bison. Even the largest dinosaurs were quite small when hatched. The Lord may have selected younger (and therefore smaller) representatives of some of the larger kinds, so there was plenty of room for all of the dinosaur kinds aboard the Ark.
If dinosaurs sailed on the Ark, where are they today? Different animal species become extinct every day for various reasons. After the Flood, the environment and habitat were drastically changed. Many dinosaurs may not have been as suited to the post-Flood world because of these changes. Interestingly, it appears that some of the dinosaur kinds that did survive a long time after the Flood became known as dragons. Dragon legends abound all over the world.
Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?
Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.
Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.
That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.
Ceationism is fascinating.
It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.
For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this
That cannot be genuine. Can it?
And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!
That would be one hell of a Guy Pride parade though, if those boys turned up in rainbow hot pants.....
I know we're not getting a second referendum, but if we did, I reckon this would be a referendum winning slogan
'Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead.'
Do people really believe the NHS matters that much to voters, still?
If it did, Labour would have waltzed home in 2010 and 2015.
Yes, I think it does, which is why the £350 million bus slogan worked. In my pre referendum anecdata I reported several overheard patient conversations on that meme.
Social conservatism in Britain is not creationist, anti-abortion or racist as it is in Trumpland. It is mostly about harkening back to well paying jobs that required little formal education, backed up by council housing, the NHS and State pensions.
Remember that only a small minority of Britons use private medicine and that the shared social endeavour of the NHS is part of the reason it is so valued. The minority with any pension other than the state one is not much bigger.
Do people care more about the money being sent to the EU, or the money being sent to the NHS?
Both, in my experience.
Of course it is not a zero sum game. While we stop paying the contributions (at least in some forms of Brexit) the money has vanished like the morning mist because of slower growth.
The truth is that there never will be any £350 million for the NHS nor anything else. It is gone with the wind.
It depends whether growth will turn out to be lower.
I think you'll struggle to find anyone on this small planet with any economic credibility saying that Brexit makes economic sense....
Economically, there's not much in it either way.
It is amusing to see guardianistas now believing Osborne's borrowing predictions are Holy Writ.
I believe the quotes are from Ken Ham, who is a creationist, who in the past has said things like dinosaurs were on the Ark with Noah.
Dinosaurs first existed around 6,000 years ago. Because dinosaurs were land animals, and God made all the land animals on day six of the creation week, dinosaurs were created on day six. Dinosaurs could not have died out before this time because death, bloodshed, disease and suffering is a result of Adam's sin. Adam and Eve were also made on day six alongside the dinosaurs - so dinosaurs lived with people.
Representatives of all the KINDS of land animals, including the dinosaur kinds went on board Noah's ark. All
The Bible states that two of every kind of land animal and seven of some went onto the Ark. It doesn’t say two of every species went onto the Ark but “kinds.” There are thousands of species of dinosaurs, but there are only about fifty families of dinosaurs. And since the biblical kind is thought to correspond to the family level in most cases, there would have been only about one hundred dinosaurs on the Ark—not thousands.
For instance, there are many different long-neck sauropods, such as Brachiosaurus, Camarasaurus, Saltasaurus, and Diplodocus, but only two needed to go onto the Ark if they were just one kind. This fact dramatically reduces the estimated number of dinosaurs on the Ark. Also, even though some dinosaurs grew to be large creatures, the average size was only about the size of a large sheep or bison. Even the largest dinosaurs were quite small when hatched. The Lord may have selected younger (and therefore smaller) representatives of some of the larger kinds, so there was plenty of room for all of the dinosaur kinds aboard the Ark.
It doesn't matter in a post truth world. We can all have our own facts to justify our own opinions.
And as a Christian I am very happy taking the mickey out of creationists. They give Christianity a bad name by misunderstanding and mis-stating what the fundamentals of Christianity are.
Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?
Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.
Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.
That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.
Ceationism is fascinating.
It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.
For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this
That cannot be genuine. Can it?
And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!
That would be one hell of a Guy Pride parade though, if those boys turned up in rainbow hot pants.....
I know we're not getting a second referendum, but if we did, I reckon this would be a referendum winning slogan
'Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead.'
Do people really believe the NHS matters that much to voters, still?
If it did, Labour would have waltzed home in 2010 and 2015.
Yes, I think it does, which is why the £350 million bus slogan worked. In my pre referendum anecdata I reported several overheard patient conversations on that meme.
Social conservatism in Britain is not creationist, anti-abortion or racist as it is in Trumpland. It is mostly about harkening back to well paying jobs that required little formal education, backed up by council housing, the NHS and State pensions.
Remember that only a small minority of Britons use private medicine and that the shared social endeavour of the NHS is part of the reason it is so valued. The minority with any pension other than the state one is not much bigger.
Do people care more about the money being sent to the EU, or the money being sent to the NHS?
Both, in my experience.
Of course it is not a zero sum game. While we stop paying the contributions (at least in some forms of Brexit) the money has vanished like the morning mist because of slower growth.
The truth is that there never will be any £350 million for the NHS nor anything else. It is gone with the wind.
It depends whether growth will turn out to be lower.
I think you'll struggle to find anyone on this small planet with any economic credibility saying that Brexit makes economic sense....
I think it will tern out to make UK and the wider would happier, wealthier and freer than we would otherwise be. now you can dismiss me as being an odd libertarian with no economic credibility if you wish, however Professor Sir Patrick Minford and a dozen other professional economists in 'Economists for Brexit' agree and for similar reasons.
Oh God, he's going to start putting America's homeless in pyramids isn't he?
Nah. They are full of grain from the seven good harvests.
Holy feck sticks, Ben Carson is an evolution denier, and thinks Charles Darwin came up with evolution thanks to Satan.
That's the same moronic thinking that creationists come up with to deny gravity by saying flowers grow upwards.
Ceationism is fascinating.
It is best seen as the prototype conspiracy theory, about which any facts can be twisted or ignored. It is why it is so common amongst alt.right types. Believe that bunkum and you are a sucker for the remainder of their post truth politics.
For comedy value, I used to follow some creationists, nothing will ever top this
That cannot be genuine. Can it?
And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!
Genuine comments from creationists
Proof please.
I'm on a work laptop, so I'm not googling it, but I think searching something along the lines of 'creationist dinosaur museum homosexuality' will point you in the right direction.
So how did you manage to post the image in the first place?
I had it saved on here a while back
I Googled. The statements originate from the forum here:
@debmattinson: Voters' greatest disappointment with #AutumnStatement is lack of £ for NHS. 'Why not use the £350m?' Asked one in @BritainThinks focus group
@debmattinson: Voters' greatest disappointment with #AutumnStatement is lack of £ for NHS. 'Why not use the £350m?' Asked one in @BritainThinks focus group
FFsake Jill Stein is delaying payouts on Michigan/Electoral college once again.
We should ask for her to be appointed the USA ambassador to the UK. If he can choose ours then we can choose his! And like Farage she represents a minor party.
Stein is going to hit that $2.5 million target quite quickly actually.
The probability of Michigan getting flipped is close to zero, mind.
I've got a mate doing his nut because he bought Trump for a substantial figure on SpreadEx's ECV market which won't settle until all of the states are officially called.
Rotherham Labour party maintaining its high standards:
' A COUNCILLOR has been convicted of sexually touching a fellow elected member.
Andrew Roddison (41) was found guilty under the Sex Offences Act after a trial at Leeds Magistrates' Court.
The offence, against a female councillor, happened at an event at Rotherham Town Hall in May.
Roddison, of Flatts Lane, Treeton, denied squeezing the woman's buttocks but district judge David Kitson said he found the councillor’s account “unconvincing”.
Roddison, elected to Rotherham Borough Council in 2011 and currently suspended by Labour, was bailed ahead of sentencing on December 1. '
Stein is going to hit that $2.5 million target quite quickly actually.
The probability of Michigan getting flipped is close to zero, mind.
I've got a mate doing his nut because he bought Trump for a substantial figure on SpreadEx's ECV market which won't settle until all of the states are officially called.
I'm -2.4k to win ~260 on the various Michigan & proxies.
Comments
Trump indicated to columnist Thomas Friedman that he is going to double-down on bringing factory jobs back to America, especially in the Rust Belt from Michigan to Pennsylvania.
FRIEDMAN: Are you worried, though, that those companies will keep their factories here, but the jobs will be replaced by robots?
TRUMP: They will, and we'll make the robots, too. [laughter]
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/11/trump-says-hes-going-to-get-apple-to-build-a-big-plant-in-us/
Trump going to build a big wall-ie
See, he does care about the environment.
'Brexit will cost £58.7bn. Let's spend it on the NHS instead.'
The reason I ask is I believe there is a clue here to the mentality of people who vote Trump or Brexit...are they selfish, miserable, cannot give a fuck about other people who recline down without a care in the world....and I think more likely to support Trump/Brexit; or are they compassionate considerate folk who wouldn't dream of invading the space/upsetting a fellow human being....a Remainer or Liberal.
I think this is an interesting social survey.
And 'no chance to survive as a species'? They were around for millions of years!
If it did, Labour would have waltzed home in 2010 and 2015.
You're asking us to take it on faith. Rather like creationism.
Also, though I do not share this aspect of it, don't most Brexiters (and no few Remainers) worry about immigrants taking up their personal space?
https://twitter.com/greggiroux/status/801540659681394688
Should be called by AP soon enough.
Social conservatism in Britain is not creationist, anti-abortion or racist as it is in Trumpland. It is mostly about harkening back to well paying jobs that required little formal education, backed up by council housing, the NHS and State pensions.
Remember that only a small minority of Britons use private medicine and that the shared social endeavour of the NHS is part of the reason it is so valued. The minority with any pension other than the state one is not much bigger.
Osborne said it and some economists' forecast backed him up.
Of course it is not a zero sum game. While we stop paying the contributions (at least in some forms of Brexit) the money has vanished like the morning mist because of slower growth.
The truth is that there never will be any £350 million for the NHS nor anything else. It is gone with the wind.
Bigoted hatetheists believing any old shite because it massages their prejudices - exactly what they accuse others of.
The article I just linked to is partly puff but it's interesting for its information about just how hot Donald Trump's campaign actually was.
Marine Le Pen is a politican and in that respect not comparable to Donald Trump. One needs to watch for her running a similarly hot campaign, and if she does I doubt whether many media commentators on either side of the Channel will be able to get their heads round it.
I doubt you can divide voters by reclining etiquette (!) but here goes my 2p.
I Brexited but wouldn't have Trumped. However, I do believe in reclining rules. Always look behind, never ever sudden movements (drinks can go everywhere), full reclining unless empty behind a no no. moderation in all so maybe a two notch recline is acceptable to sleep without cramping up the seat occupant behind?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Italian_constitutional_referendum,_2016
You are correct in saying that the amount of money would stretch to a trillion in time, if the growth remained on the same slope as before, but delayed by a couple of years. That is the magic of compounding (or in the case of Brexit a delay in compounding).
Or to put it another way, I can never catch up with my brothers age no matter how long we both live!
And yes, before you ask, I don't care about upsetting Creationists with mockery; I know deeply deeply religious people who do the same, so I feel I'm on safe ground.
I believe the quotes are from Ken Ham, who is a creationist, who in the past has said things like dinosaurs were on the Ark with Noah.
Dinosaurs first existed around 6,000 years ago. Because dinosaurs were land animals, and God made all the land animals on day six of the creation week, dinosaurs were created on day six. Dinosaurs could not have died out before this time because death, bloodshed, disease and suffering is a result of Adam's sin. Adam and Eve were also made on day six alongside the dinosaurs - so dinosaurs lived with people.
Representatives of all the KINDS of land animals, including the dinosaur kinds went on board Noah's ark. All those that were left behind drowned in the cataclysmic circumstances of the Flood - many of their remains became fossils. After the Flood (around 4,500 years ago), the land animals (including dinosaurs) came off the ark and lived in the present world, beside people. Because of sin, the judgement of the curse and the effects of the Flood have greatly changed the earth. Since the Flood, many animals have died out from diseases, a lack of food, etc. The dinosaurs, like many other creatures, seem to have also died out
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ken_Ham#Great_Dinosaur_Mystery_Solved.21_.282000.29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Ham
He also came out with this doozie
The Bible states that two of every kind of land animal and seven of some went onto the Ark. It doesn’t say two of every species went onto the Ark but “kinds.” There are thousands of species of dinosaurs, but there are only about fifty families of dinosaurs. And since the biblical kind is thought to correspond to the family level in most cases, there would have been only about one hundred dinosaurs on the Ark—not thousands.
For instance, there are many different long-neck sauropods, such as Brachiosaurus, Camarasaurus, Saltasaurus, and Diplodocus, but only two needed to go onto the Ark if they were just one kind. This fact dramatically reduces the estimated number of dinosaurs on the Ark. Also, even though some dinosaurs grew to be large creatures, the average size was only about the size of a large sheep or bison. Even the largest dinosaurs were quite small when hatched. The Lord may have selected younger (and therefore smaller) representatives of some of the larger kinds, so there was plenty of room for all of the dinosaur kinds aboard the Ark.
If dinosaurs sailed on the Ark, where are they today? Different animal species become extinct every day for various reasons. After the Flood, the environment and habitat were drastically changed. Many dinosaurs may not have been as suited to the post-Flood world because of these changes. Interestingly, it appears that some of the dinosaur kinds that did survive a long time after the Flood became known as dragons. Dragon legends abound all over the world.
http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/answers-in-genesis/read/articles/dinosaurs-on-the-ark-16285.html
Britain needs an opposition far better than Labour is providing
If only we had Dim Farron
https://twitter.com/OldhamCouncil/status/801531107795726338
"Brexit has already cost £58.7bn. We have a Budget to prove it. But that was a small price to pay, to epically piss off the French..."
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=88288
Which is a SPOOF website and forum:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landover_Baptist_Church
Without even looking it up this was OBVIOUSLY satire; you'd have to be deluded to think anything else.
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/homosexuality-led-to-extinction-of-dinosaurs-claims-top-scientist/
Though the world news daily report does not seem to be part of the MSM.
http://realorsatire.com/worldnewsdailyreport-com/
And as a Christian I am very happy taking the mickey out of creationists. They give Christianity a bad name by misunderstanding and mis-stating what the fundamentals of Christianity are.
https://twitter.com/senatorshoshana/status/801467050212425728
It's a grifter, not a stuffed toy in an infants school.
Your Freudian slip is showing...
http://emptyclosets.com/forum/current-events-world-news-lgbt-news/80090-homosexuality-killed-dinosaurs.html
I'm not saying it isnt a spoof but you haven't found the source.
And don't forget the results have to certified by Dec. 13th regardless of any recount attempts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqaQ_Bhgmrc
Here are the Democrat to Republican swings in the rust belt states:
WV 7.7%
IO 7.7%
OH 5.8%
MI 4.9%
MO 4.8%
IN 4.5%
WN 3.9%
KY 3.6%
PN 3.2%
MN 3.1%
IL 0.4%
Now if you had to select a couple for vote fraud checks which would you pick ?
The probability of Michigan getting flipped is close to zero, mind.
' A COUNCILLOR has been convicted of sexually touching a fellow elected member.
Andrew Roddison (41) was found guilty under the Sex Offences Act after a trial at Leeds Magistrates' Court.
The offence, against a female councillor, happened at an event at Rotherham Town Hall in May.
Roddison, of Flatts Lane, Treeton, denied squeezing the woman's buttocks but district judge David Kitson said he found the councillor’s account “unconvincing”.
Roddison, elected to Rotherham Borough Council in 2011 and currently suspended by Labour, was bailed ahead of sentencing on December 1. '
http://www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk/news/105160/councillor-squeezed-buttocks-of-fellow-elected-member.aspx
Though Hilary does actually come from Chicago so maybe she had a personal vote there.