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One thing no admits to is the very heavy Japanese influence on Taiwan. The occupied the island with a relatively benign regime from the end of the 19th century until the Second World War. The Kuomintang regime that took over was ultra corrupt and rapacious.SouthamObserver said:
Taiwan is great - the perfect mix of HK and the mainland. The people are far gentler and less stressed too, which is quite a feat given what is waiting and watching across the sea. What Taiwan has over China is a largely independent judiciary and financial system, and a lot more democracy. If (when) China gets these, there is no doubt it will dominate the world.
There is nothing odd about China's dominance if you take a long view of history, ie 1000 BC to 1800 AD
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That what radical Free markets do for you! Free trade, property rights, and the rule of lore, its a formula that never fails, Taiwan, Chile, South Korea, All prospered that way and all evolved from dictatorships to democracies, With out the need for a revolution! the Dutch and UK did it a few centauries ago. Singapore and Liechtenstein are tacking it to the limits at the moment.SeanT said:
Taiwan's performance is phenomenal. This was an island of peasants and rubble a few decades ago, and an army fleeing the communistsrcs1000 said:
Ah hem: there is only one EU country in the top 10.SeanT said:
Have you seen the list of world's richest nations? Per capita?OldKingCole said:
It’s not rubbish. Well, it’s sort of, but it’s what a lot of normally sensible people believe and as as result voted Leave back in June. The fact that a nation of 70 or so million, even one that punches well above its weight like Britain, is going to be at an increasing disadvantage compared with nations or blocs with more resources, intellectual as well as material, passed them by.IanB2 said:
It is rare that you see such rubbish posted in here.SeanT said:
Yes.SouthamObserver said:Thinking about the positives of Brexit the one that does stand out a million miles for me is the discomfit of a dark blue passport.
But surely the single, inarguable positive about Brexit is the enormous fillip it gives to British democracy.
These are all marvellously good things. It mystifies me why a smart guy like you can't see this.
http://tinyurl.com/l4zdx28
There is absolutely no indication that being "big" or "in a bloc" is of benefit (if anything being smaller and nimble probably helps). There are no EU countries in the top 10.
What does help is: being an advanced western nation (or having lots of oil). Big news. Also: avoid communism, and don't be African.
Edit to add, the numbers for 2015 don't include the upward revision of Ireland's GDP. So it's actually two.
Now it's GDP per capita is about the same as Germany, Australia and Canada, and higher than France, the UK and Japan
Imagine if China repeats Taiwan's performance (unlikely, but clearly possible). It would not just be the biggest economy on the planet, it would be about three or four times larger than the USA
A world utterly transformed. The West dwarfed.
China has increased economic freedom and become richer as a result, but to get to 'western' levels of wealth they will have to get a lot freer than now, which may happen, but if they do, then its likely that personal and political freedoms will come with it, as they did in Taiwan, Chili, South Korea, and so on.0 -
The thing is, the IRA came to the table because effectively they had lost. They were never going to re-unite Ireland with the armalite.SouthamObserver said:Ladies and gentlemen, Jon Snow of Channel 4 news, not Game of Thrones:
https://twitter.com/stuartjritchie/status/782932635664412672
I don't know if the FARC situation is the same, (that they are effectively defeated) because I just don't understand the situation well enough, but Snow's comment is legitimate. There's a good chance that had it been put to a referendum it might have gone either way.0 -
Ah yes, where is Hunchman now? Disappeared up the Finchley Road to hide from his creditors?SquareRoot said:
Different subject.. that was the 2008 credit crunch . This is our own self inflicted disaster...and Gordon Brown nowhere in. Sight....Philip_Thompson said:
Read it here first ages ago ... Hunchman was referring to an upcoming disaster on a date that has been and.gone now but oddly enough the disaster never came.SquareRoot said:
Are you haven't been out of late. Never mind.. it's coming down the line v soon to a street near you.. it will be fun reading all the whinging that is going to take place..in a few months time.. you read it here first...Philip_Thompson said:
What exchange rate disaster?SquareRoot said:I rather suspect that those who.pupport not to be worried about the exchange rate disaster are rich people.
For some of us the effects will be real and probably lasting. Meanwhile we are expected to clutch our new dark blue passports and sing #Rule Brittania#0 -
Time for the weekly update of my average daily tracking poll:
Hillary 46.5 nc
Trump 43.5 +0.5
Every week since the first update.
Hillary 46.5 46.5 45.5 44.5 45 46 46.5 47 47 45
Trump 43.5 43 44 43.5 42 42 41 40.5 41 43
Hillary seeems to have a ceiling at 47% and Trump a ceiling at 44%, since Sept. 26th neither candidates have seen much movement.
Trump has been trading in a range between 43-44% since Sept 10th.
Hillary was recovering everyday from Sept. 15th till the 26th.
Hillary has never gone bellow 44.5 and Trump never above 44.5, that sums it up.0 -
Indeed, holiday there with a lot of friends and bring your own tanks and helicopters!williamglenn said:
That's what they said in Russia after the recent slide in the rouble. Then it became a patriotic duty to holiday in Crimea.Sean_F said:
One can always visit somewhere other than Bangkok.OldKingCole said:
Prices in Bangkok will be effectivelly 15% or so higher. Could affect tourism. Or something!Sean_F said:
Higher G & T prices, and more expensive foreign holidays.Philip_Thompson said:
Again what disaster?SquareRoot said:
Different subject.. that was the 2008 credit crunch . This is our own self inflicted disaster...and Gordon Brown nowhere in. Sight....Philip_Thompson said:
Read it here first ages ago ... Hunchman was referring to an upcoming disaster on a date that has been and.gone now but oddly enough the disaster never came.SquareRoot said:
Are you haven't been out of late. Never mind.. it's coming down the line v soo1n to a street near you.. it will be fun reading all the whinging that is going to take place..in a few months time.. you read it here first...Philip_Thompson said:
What exchange rate disaster?SquareRoot said:I rather suspect that those who.pupport not to be worried about the exchange rate disaster are rich people.
For some of us the effects will be real and probably lasting. Meanwhile we are expected to clutch our new dark blue passports and sing #Rule Brittania#
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Faced with these twin horrors, we can only quote Homer to strengthen our courage:-
"Let me not then die ingloriously and without a struggle, but let me first do some great thing that shall be told among men hereafter"0 -
TonyE said:
The thing is, the IRA came to the table because effectively they had lost. They were never going to re-unite Ireland with the armalite.SouthamObserver said:Ladies and gentlemen, Jon Snow of Channel 4 news, not Game of Thrones:
https://twitter.com/stuartjritchie/status/782932635664412672
I don't know if the FARC situation is the same, (that they are effectively defeated) because I just don't understand the situation well enough, but Snow's comment is legitimate. There's a good chance that had it been put to a referendum it might have gone either way.
You may want to check the history a bit more.
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It was put to a referendum...TonyE said:
The thing is, the IRA came to the table because effectively they had lost. They were never going to re-unite Ireland with the armalite.SouthamObserver said:Ladies and gentlemen, Jon Snow of Channel 4 news, not Game of Thrones:
https://twitter.com/stuartjritchie/status/782932635664412672
I don't know if the FARC situation is the same, (that they are effectively defeated) because I just don't understand the situation well enough, but Snow's comment is legitimate. There's a good chance that had it been put to a referendum it might have gone either way.0 -
I presume he meant in the whole of the UK.brokenwheel said:
It was put to a referendum...TonyE said:
The thing is, the IRA came to the table because effectively they had lost. They were never going to re-unite Ireland with the armalite.SouthamObserver said:Ladies and gentlemen, Jon Snow of Channel 4 news, not Game of Thrones:
https://twitter.com/stuartjritchie/status/782932635664412672
I don't know if the FARC situation is the same, (that they are effectively defeated) because I just don't understand the situation well enough, but Snow's comment is legitimate. There's a good chance that had it been put to a referendum it might have gone either way.0 -
The IRA hadn't just lost, they had run out of leadership that wasn't on the MI6 payroll.MarkHopkins said:TonyE said:
The thing is, the IRA came to the table because effectively they had lost. They were never going to re-unite Ireland with the armalite.SouthamObserver said:Ladies and gentlemen, Jon Snow of Channel 4 news, not Game of Thrones:
https://twitter.com/stuartjritchie/status/782932635664412672
I don't know if the FARC situation is the same, (that they are effectively defeated) because I just don't understand the situation well enough, but Snow's comment is legitimate. There's a good chance that had it been put to a referendum it might have gone either way.
You may want to check the history a bit more.0 -
But debt may stop this.SeanT said:
Agreed. I just don't see China invading. Yet.FF43 said:
As far as China is concerned Taiwan is part of the indivisible whole. It doesn't matter what Taiwanese think, when it comes down to it. China would prefer enthusiasm to force but it doesn't change the premise. For the Taiwanese legitimacy comes from democracy. Taiwan will only be part of China if it chooses to be so. The contradiction between those positions is total. And it's real, not abstract.SeanT said:
I think they will slowly and peacefully merge, or associate, as China's GDP per capita reaches par with TaiwanCasino_Royale said:
China will force Taiwan into PRC at some point in the next 30 years, either politically or militarily.SeanT said:
Taiwan's performance is phenomenal. This was an island of peasants and rubble a few decades ago, and an army fleeing the communists
Now it's GDP per capita is about the same as Germany, Australia and Canada, and higher than France, the UK and Japan
Imagine if China repeats Taiwan's performance (unlikely, but clearly possible). It would not just be the biggest economy on the planet, it would be about three or four times larger than the USA
A world utterly transformed. The West dwarfed.
It's not in China's interest to fuck up the economy of a major trading partner like Taiwan, with some brutal coercion. Unless China is taken over by nutters again (possible)
http://money.cnn.com/2015/11/05/news/china-taiwan-trade-economy/
What China might do is: wait until it is so economically dominant in the Pacific (that's gonna be soon) and militarily capable of menacing America (10-20 years?), it will then force Taiwan into a deal. And Washington will be helpless.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/goldman-sachs-china-debt-ponzi-stage-2016-7
..."But the opposite happens when economic growth slows, as China's is doing now. With total debt now at 200% of GDP, and growth slowing from 7% down to 6% this year (or even lower, if you don't believe the government's stats), each new unit of debt delivers a lower return in economic growth."
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Of course it was - I forgot all about it. And I'm really surprised at the result being so strongly in favour of it. Just looked up the numbers. Seems like ancient history now, but there you go!brokenwheel said:
It was put to a referendum...TonyE said:
The thing is, the IRA came to the table because effectively they had lost. They were never going to re-unite Ireland with the armalite.SouthamObserver said:Ladies and gentlemen, Jon Snow of Channel 4 news, not Game of Thrones:
https://twitter.com/stuartjritchie/status/782932635664412672
I don't know if the FARC situation is the same, (that they are effectively defeated) because I just don't understand the situation well enough, but Snow's comment is legitimate. There's a good chance that had it been put to a referendum it might have gone either way.0 -
@tnewtondunn: Photographers at #CPC16 have tried to catch out a minister standing in front of the 'o' in 'country' on stage. They have just got Liam Fox.0
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Yep, Taiwan is very unusual in that part of Asia for not being massively anti-Japanese.FF43 said:
One thing no admits to is the very heavy Japanese influence on Taiwan. The occupied the island with a relatively benign regime from the end of the 19th century until the Second World War. The Kuomintang regime that took over was ultra corrupt and rapacious.SouthamObserver said:
Taiwan is great - the perfect mix of HK and the mainland. The people are far gentler and less stressed too, which is quite a feat given what is waiting and watching across the sea. What Taiwan has over China is a largely independent judiciary and financial system, and a lot more democracy. If (when) China gets these, there is no doubt it will dominate the world.
There is nothing odd about China's dominance if you take a long view of history, ie 1000 BC to 1800 AD
Did China dominate the world ever? Not sure it did. It may well have been the richest and most developed part of the world, but that is very different.
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And one to avoid: Transasia. Their planes keep crashing.OldKingCole said:
[Taiwan] Has an excellent airline, EVA.
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This article gives an interesting insight into Chinese attitudes to Western corporations.
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-375237120 -
Then why delete it?williamglenn said:
I presume he meant in the whole of the UK.brokenwheel said:
It was put to a referendum...TonyE said:
The thing is, the IRA came to the table because effectively they had lost. They were never going to re-unite Ireland with the armalite.SouthamObserver said:Ladies and gentlemen, Jon Snow of Channel 4 news, not Game of Thrones:
https://twitter.com/stuartjritchie/status/782932635664412672
I don't know if the FARC situation is the same, (that they are effectively defeated) because I just don't understand the situation well enough, but Snow's comment is legitimate. There's a good chance that had it been put to a referendum it might have gone either way.
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China has over three times the US population so even if it overtakes the US in GDP terms it is unlikely to do so on GDP per capitaSeanT said:
Taiwan's performance is phenomenal. This was an island of peasants and rubble a few decades ago, and an army fleeing the communistsrcs1000 said:
Ah hem: there is only one EU country in the top 10.SeanT said:
Have you seen the list of world's richest nations? Per capita?OldKingCole said:
It’s not rubbish. Well, it’s sort of, but it’s what a lot of normally sensible people believe and as as result voted Leave back in June. The fact that a nation of 70 or so million, even one that punches well above its weight like Britain, is going to be at an increasing disadvantage compared with nations or blocs with more resources, intellectual as well as material, passed them by.IanB2 said:
It is rare that you see such rubbish posted in here.SeanT said:
Yes.SouthamObserver said:Thinking about the positives of Brexit the one that does stand out a million miles for me is the discomfit of a dark blue passport.
But surely the single, inarguable positive about Brexit is the enormous fillip it gives to British democracy.
These are all marvellously good things. It mystifies me why a smart guy like you can't see this.
http://tinyurl.com/l4zdx28
There is absolutely no indication that being "big" or "in a bloc" is of benefit (if anything being smaller and nimble probably helps). There are no EU countries in the top 10.
What does help is: being an advanced western nation (or having lots of oil). Big news. Also: avoid communism, and don't be African.
Edit to add, the numbers for 2015 don't include the upward revision of Ireland's GDP. So it's actually two.
Now it's GDP per capita is about the same as Germany, Australia and Canada, and higher than France, the UK and Japan
Imagine if China repeats Taiwan's performance (unlikely, but clearly possible). It would not just be the biggest economy on the planet, it would be about three or four times larger than the USA
A world utterly transformed. The West dwarfed.0 -
You might be taking the lists but it is going to hurt Everyone e except the v well heeled. There is no escaping it.Sean_F said:
Higher G & T prices, and more expensive foreign holidays.Philip_Thompson said:
Again what disaster?SquareRoot said:
Different subject.. that was the 2008 credit crunch . This is our own self inflicted disaster...and Gordon Brown nowhere in. Sight....Philip_Thompson said:
Read it here first ages ago ... Hunchman was referring to an upcoming disaster on a date that has been and.gone now but oddly enough the disaster never came.SquareRoot said:
Are you haven't been out of late. Never mind.. it's coming down the line v soon to a street near you.. it will be fun reading all the whinging that is going to take place..in a few months time.. you read it here first...Philip_Thompson said:
What exchange rate disaster?SquareRoot said:I rather suspect that those who.pupport not to be worried about the exchange rate disaster are rich people.
For some of us the effects will be real and probably lasting. Meanwhile we are expected to clutch our new dark blue passports and sing #Rule Brittania#
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Faced with these twin horrors, we can only quote Homer to strengthen our courage:-
"Let me not then die ingloriously and without a struggle, but let me first do some great thing that shall be told among men hereafter"0 -
Interesting point. There has only been one empire, which is was also a global hegemony - the British one. The USA has been a global hegemony without being an empire in recent years, but that is probably coming to an end. The Chinese hegemony for most of the period after 206BC covered the area from Central Asia to Japan and Mongolia to Vietnam. Their direct power came and went but that would have been their sphere of influence for the entire period, except when the Mongols were in power.SouthamObserver said:
Yep, Taiwan is very unusual in that part of Asia for not being massively anti-Japanese.FF43 said:
One thing no admits to is the very heavy Japanese influence on Taiwan. The occupied the island with a relatively benign regime from the end of the 19th century until the Second World War. The Kuomintang regime that took over was ultra corrupt and rapacious.SouthamObserver said:
Taiwan is great - the perfect mix of HK and the mainland. The people are far gentler and less stressed too, which is quite a feat given what is waiting and watching across the sea. What Taiwan has over China is a largely independent judiciary and financial system, and a lot more democracy. If (when) China gets these, there is no doubt it will dominate the world.
There is nothing odd about China's dominance if you take a long view of history, ie 1000 BC to 1800 AD
Did China dominate the world ever? Not sure it did. It may well have been the richest and most developed part of the world, but that is very different.0 -
Have your figures factored in the tax stuff? That seems to be blowing up quite a bit.Speedy said:Time for the weekly update of my average daily tracking poll:
Hillary 46.5 nc
Trump 43.5 +0.5
Every week since the first update.
Hillary 46.5 46.5 45.5 44.5 45 46 46.5 47 47 45
Trump 43.5 43 44 43.5 42 42 41 40.5 41 43
Hillary seeems to have a ceiling at 47% and Trump a ceiling at 44%, since Sept. 26th neither candidates have seen much movement.
Trump has been trading in a range between 43-44% since Sept 10th.
Hillary was recovering everyday from Sept. 15th till the 26th.
Hillary has never gone bellow 44.5 and Trump never above 44.5, that sums it up.0 -
His figures factor in the polls up to today I believe.619 said:
Have your figures factored in the tax stuff? That seems to be blowing up quite a bit.Speedy said:Time for the weekly update of my average daily tracking poll:
Hillary 46.5 nc
Trump 43.5 +0.5
Every week since the first update.
Hillary 46.5 46.5 45.5 44.5 45 46 46.5 47 47 45
Trump 43.5 43 44 43.5 42 42 41 40.5 41 43
Hillary seeems to have a ceiling at 47% and Trump a ceiling at 44%, since Sept. 26th neither candidates have seen much movement.
Trump has been trading in a range between 43-44% since Sept 10th.
Hillary was recovering everyday from Sept. 15th till the 26th.
Hillary has never gone bellow 44.5 and Trump never above 44.5, that sums it up.0 -
On China: might not the shenanigans in the South China Sea be a prelude (and a warm-up test to see what works and how far it can push things) to action over both Taiwan and the disputed [with Japan] islands?0
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They did launch the watch, but it doesn't seem to have caught on.SeanT said:I've got this theory that the rubbishness of the new iPhone 7 (no headphone jack???) is indicative of a company heading into big trouble. Apple hasn't had a fabulous new product in several years.
This seems to confirm my suspicions:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/foxconns-smartphone-assembler-warns-52-profit-drop0 -
They have huge cash reserves, so that gives them a massive cushion to get the next one rightSeanT said:I've got this theory that the rubbishness of the new iPhone 7 (no headphone jack???) is indicative of a company heading into big trouble. Apple hasn't had a fabulous new product in several years.
This seems to confirm my suspicions:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/foxconns-smartphone-assembler-warns-52-profit-drop0 -
How bloody childish.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: Photographers at #CPC16 have tried to catch out a minister standing in front of the 'o' in 'country' on stage. They have just got Liam Fox.
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Innovation doesn't work like that. If they've lost their way and fallen victim to design by committee, all the cash in the world won't help.TonyE said:
They have huge cash reserves, so that gives them a massive cushion to get the next one rightSeanT said:I've got this theory that the rubbishness of the new iPhone 7 (no headphone jack???) is indicative of a company heading into big trouble. Apple hasn't had a fabulous new product in several years.
This seems to confirm my suspicions:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/foxconns-smartphone-assembler-warns-52-profit-drop0 -
The iphone 8 is the 10 year anniversary edition.
Some talk that the good stuff is being held back for that one.
This fan boy is sitting the 7 out.0 -
I suppose the Blackberry experience is telling in that sense - whatever they did it didn't work. Their mojo had completely left them.williamglenn said:
Innovation doesn't work like that. If they've lost their way and fallen victim to design by committee, all the cash in the world won't help.TonyE said:
They have huge cash reserves, so that gives them a massive cushion to get the next one rightSeanT said:I've got this theory that the rubbishness of the new iPhone 7 (no headphone jack???) is indicative of a company heading into big trouble. Apple hasn't had a fabulous new product in several years.
This seems to confirm my suspicions:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/foxconns-smartphone-assembler-warns-52-profit-drop0 -
What tax stuff ?619 said:
Have your figures factored in the tax stuff? That seems to be blowing up quite a bit.Speedy said:Time for the weekly update of my average daily tracking poll:
Hillary 46.5 nc
Trump 43.5 +0.5
Every week since the first update.
Hillary 46.5 46.5 45.5 44.5 45 46 46.5 47 47 45
Trump 43.5 43 44 43.5 42 42 41 40.5 41 43
Hillary seeems to have a ceiling at 47% and Trump a ceiling at 44%, since Sept. 26th neither candidates have seen much movement.
Trump has been trading in a range between 43-44% since Sept 10th.
Hillary was recovering everyday from Sept. 15th till the 26th.
Hillary has never gone bellow 44.5 and Trump never above 44.5, that sums it up.
The taxes Trump leaked to the New York Times on purpose ?
(The envelope containing those tax documents had Trump Tower as the address of the person who posted them)
Trump had 3 aims for leaking it to the N.Y.T. :
1. To prick the myth of his tax returns, by leaking non-damaging tax returns.
2. To deflect attention from more damaging stuff.
3. To make the N.Y.T to break the law by publishing them, so he can play the victim.
It's not the first time Trump leaked stuff about himself to deflect attention and play the victim, he did the same thing with the Washington Post and those John Miller tapes.
Next time a journalist receives an envelope from Trump Tower he should think twise before opening it.0 -
Oh and tomorrow, Google are going to release their first own brand mobile phone... Given how much of Apple's profits depend on the iPhone they will be in serious trouble if people start leaving their platform.SeanT said:I've got this theory that the rubbishness of the new iPhone 7 (no headphone jack???) is indicative of a company heading into big trouble. Apple hasn't had a fabulous new product in several years.
This seems to confirm my suspicions:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/foxconns-smartphone-assembler-warns-52-profit-drop0 -
That’s a bit silly, although someone managed to get a picture of TMay standing in front of the Better Togther poster in such a way that it read Bitter Togther.Scott_P said:@tnewtondunn: Photographers at #CPC16 have tried to catch out a minister standing in front of the 'o' in 'country' on stage. They have just got Liam Fox.
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thats an interesting theory! id say that massively hurts him because it makes him look like a loser who lost 900 million in one year.Speedy said:
What tax stuff ?619 said:
Have your figures factored in the tax stuff? That seems to be blowing up quite a bit.Speedy said:Time for the weekly update of my average daily tracking poll:
Hillary 46.5 nc
Trump 43.5 +0.5
Every week since the first update.
Hillary 46.5 46.5 45.5 44.5 45 46 46.5 47 47 45
Trump 43.5 43 44 43.5 42 42 41 40.5 41 43
Hillary seeems to have a ceiling at 47% and Trump a ceiling at 44%, since Sept. 26th neither candidates have seen much movement.
Trump has been trading in a range between 43-44% since Sept 10th.
Hillary was recovering everyday from Sept. 15th till the 26th.
Hillary has never gone bellow 44.5 and Trump never above 44.5, that sums it up.
The taxes Trump leaked to the New York Times on purpose ?
(The envelope containing those tax documents had Trump Tower as the address of the person who posted them)
Trump had 3 aims for leaking it to the N.Y.T. :
1. To prick the myth of his tax returns, by leaking non-damaging tax returns.
2. To deflect attention from more damaging stuff.
3. To make the N.Y.T to break the law by publishing them, so he can play the victim.
It's not the first time Trump leaked stuff about himself to deflect attention and play the victim, he did the same thing with the Washington Post and those John Miller tapes.
Next time a journalist receives an envelope from Trump Tower he should think twise before opening it.
dont get me wrong, he could have leaked it himself (though i suspect EVEN he isnt that stupid) but i wouldnt say it helps him.
its not against the law to publish it: second amendment would apply. And no evidence it was stolen.0 -
I heard that the iphone 9 is even better than the iphone 8, but the iphone 10 will be the best one until the iphone 11.TGOHF said:The iphone 8 is the 10 year anniversary edition.
Some talk that the good stuff is being held back for that one.
This fan boy is sitting the 7 out.
And lets not forget the S versions of each iphone either.0 -
Strangely, my wife's accountancy firm is now transferring from Blackberry to Apple. she's resigned to getting an IPhone even though she detests them.williamglenn said:
Oh and tomorrow, Google are going to release their first own brand mobile phone... Given how much of Apple's profits depend on the iPhone they will be in serious trouble if people start leaving their platform.SeanT said:I've got this theory that the rubbishness of the new iPhone 7 (no headphone jack???) is indicative of a company heading into big trouble. Apple hasn't had a fabulous new product in several years.
This seems to confirm my suspicions:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/foxconns-smartphone-assembler-warns-52-profit-drop
I quite like the hardware, and the uniformness of the interface across programs - but the problem is the fact that you just can't shift files from it to your pc easily, and the apps are a bit restrictive compared to Android.0 -
Bloodletting? Under the Tudors? Pish and Tish, Mr, Bedfordshire. Compared with what came before and after the Tudor dynasty was a time of peace.Paul_Bedfordshire said:
Confiscate a quarter of the land and give it to your cronies plunging the country into chaos and bloodletting?Cookie said:
I've never known how to feel about Henry VIII - on the one hand, I'm fully convinced he was right - indeed, vaguely heroic - to break with Rome; on the other, his reasons for doing so were very much motivated by what was best for Henry VIII and the House of Tudor, rather than what was best for England. There may or may not be paralells here with individuals from the present era...taffys said:''That's a very real and very important link back to our past. I also like the idea of a dark blue passport. ''
Would Henry VIII have won ye referendum on the break with Rome?
Consider ye 'monastery dissolution dividend'
Modern parallel - step forward Sir Robert Mugabe.0 -
I get ya - but lets not pretend that the 5 was any goodSpeedy said:
I heard that the iphone 9 is even better than the iphone 8, but the iphone 10 will be the best one until the iphone 11.TGOHF said:The iphone 8 is the 10 year anniversary edition.
Some talk that the good stuff is being held back for that one.
This fan boy is sitting the 7 out.
And lets not forget the S versions of each iphone either.
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Does second amendment extend to privileged information like tax returns, medical files, classified information?619 said:
thats an interesting theory! id say that massively hurts him because it makes him look like a loser who lost 900 million in one year.Speedy said:
What tax stuff ?619 said:
Have your figures factored in the tax stuff? That seems to be blowing up quite a bit.Speedy said:Time for the weekly update of my average daily tracking poll:
Hillary 46.5 nc
Trump 43.5 +0.5
Every week since the first update.
Hillary 46.5 46.5 45.5 44.5 45 46 46.5 47 47 45
Trump 43.5 43 44 43.5 42 42 41 40.5 41 43
Hillary seeems to have a ceiling at 47% and Trump a ceiling at 44%, since Sept. 26th neither candidates have seen much movement.
Trump has been trading in a range between 43-44% since Sept 10th.
Hillary was recovering everyday from Sept. 15th till the 26th.
Hillary has never gone bellow 44.5 and Trump never above 44.5, that sums it up.
The taxes Trump leaked to the New York Times on purpose ?
(The envelope containing those tax documents had Trump Tower as the address of the person who posted them)
Trump had 3 aims for leaking it to the N.Y.T. :
1. To prick the myth of his tax returns, by leaking non-damaging tax returns.
2. To deflect attention from more damaging stuff.
3. To make the N.Y.T to break the law by publishing them, so he can play the victim.
It's not the first time Trump leaked stuff about himself to deflect attention and play the victim, he did the same thing with the Washington Post and those John Miller tapes.
Next time a journalist receives an envelope from Trump Tower he should think twise before opening it.
dont get me wrong, he could have leaked it himself (though i suspect EVEN he isnt that stupid) but i wouldnt say it helps him.
its not against the law to publish it: second amendment would apply. And no evidence it was stolen.0 -
I would say for apple the hardware is still excellent but the software is beginning to annoy - nobody wants to pay for icloud.0
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Hasn't Blackberry gone bust?TonyE said:
Strangely, my wife's accountancy firm is now transferring from Blackberry to Apple. she's resigned to getting an IPhone even though she detests them.williamglenn said:
Oh and tomorrow, Google are going to release their first own brand mobile phone... Given how much of Apple's profits depend on the iPhone they will be in serious trouble if people start leaving their platform.SeanT said:I've got this theory that the rubbishness of the new iPhone 7 (no headphone jack???) is indicative of a company heading into big trouble. Apple hasn't had a fabulous new product in several years.
This seems to confirm my suspicions:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/foxconns-smartphone-assembler-warns-52-profit-drop
I quite like the hardware, and the uniformness of the interface across programs - but the problem is the fact that you just can't shift files from it to your pc easily, and the apps are a bit restrictive compared to Android.0 -
We had a similar, if less draconian campaign in the 60s:williamglenn said:This article gives an interesting insight into Chinese attitudes to Western corporations.
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-37523712
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I'm_Backing_Britain
Backed by (inter alia) Saville and Maxwell....0 -
Lightning ports surely rather than those oh so common USB...SeanT said:
A watch you had to RECHARGE EVERY NIGHTfoxinsoxuk said:
They did launch the watch, but it doesn't seem to have caught on.SeanT said:I've got this theory that the rubbishness of the new iPhone 7 (no headphone jack???) is indicative of a company heading into big trouble. Apple hasn't had a fabulous new product in several years.
This seems to confirm my suspicions:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/foxconns-smartphone-assembler-warns-52-profit-drop
Imagine that: yet another thing you have to plug in and charge. This time: your watch. I'm totally amazed the entire world hasn't bought one. Totally.
Stunned.
I'm hoping will produce the Apple iChair, a special Chair that has to be plugged into six different USB ports, before you can sit down on it.0 -
Sitting. Reinvented.SeanT said:
A watch you had to RECHARGE EVERY NIGHTfoxinsoxuk said:
They did launch the watch, but it doesn't seem to have caught on.SeanT said:I've got this theory that the rubbishness of the new iPhone 7 (no headphone jack???) is indicative of a company heading into big trouble. Apple hasn't had a fabulous new product in several years.
This seems to confirm my suspicions:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/foxconns-smartphone-assembler-warns-52-profit-drop
Imagine that: yet another thing you have to plug in and charge. This time: your watch. I'm totally amazed the entire world hasn't bought one. Totally.
Stunned.
I'm hoping will produce the Apple iChair, a special Chair that has to be plugged into six different USB ports, before you can sit down on it.
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Apple have a cult.SeanT said:
Remember how quickly Nokia collapsed. Biggest mobile phone company in the world, hugely dominant - and now, zip.TonyE said:
I suppose the Blackberry experience is telling in that sense - whatever they did it didn't work. Their mojo had completely left them.williamglenn said:
Innovation doesn't work like that. If they've lost their way and fallen victim to design by committee, all the cash in the world won't help.TonyE said:
They have huge cash reserves, so that gives them a massive cushion to get the next one rightSeanT said:I've got this theory that the rubbishness of the new iPhone 7 (no headphone jack???) is indicative of a company heading into big trouble. Apple hasn't had a fabulous new product in several years.
This seems to confirm my suspicions:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/foxconns-smartphone-assembler-warns-52-profit-drop
Apple's reign won't last forever, they need brilliant new products - soon. Others have caught up, and maybe overtaken, and at the moment they are relying on reputation.0 -
With the 'courage' to remove the chair legs because no-one needs them.RobD said:
Sitting. Reinvented.SeanT said:
A watch you had to RECHARGE EVERY NIGHTfoxinsoxuk said:
They did launch the watch, but it doesn't seem to have caught on.SeanT said:I've got this theory that the rubbishness of the new iPhone 7 (no headphone jack???) is indicative of a company heading into big trouble. Apple hasn't had a fabulous new product in several years.
This seems to confirm my suspicions:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/foxconns-smartphone-assembler-warns-52-profit-drop
Imagine that: yet another thing you have to plug in and charge. This time: your watch. I'm totally amazed the entire world hasn't bought one. Totally.
Stunned.
I'm hoping will produce the Apple iChair, a special Chair that has to be plugged into six different USB ports, before you can sit down on it.0 -
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Trump lost a lot of money in reach recession, he had to do multiple debt restructurings each time in the early 90's, the early 2000's, and the late 2000's.619 said:
thats an interesting theory! id say that massively hurts him because it makes him look like a loser who lost 900 million in one year.Speedy said:
What tax stuff ?619 said:
Have your figures factored in the tax stuff? That seems to be blowing up quite a bit.Speedy said:Time for the weekly update of my average daily tracking poll:
Hillary 46.5 nc
Trump 43.5 +0.5
Every week since the first update.
Hillary 46.5 46.5 45.5 44.5 45 46 46.5 47 47 45
Trump 43.5 43 44 43.5 42 42 41 40.5 41 43
Hillary seeems to have a ceiling at 47% and Trump a ceiling at 44%, since Sept. 26th neither candidates have seen much movement.
Trump has been trading in a range between 43-44% since Sept 10th.
Hillary was recovering everyday from Sept. 15th till the 26th.
Hillary has never gone bellow 44.5 and Trump never above 44.5, that sums it up.
The taxes Trump leaked to the New York Times on purpose ?
(The envelope containing those tax documents had Trump Tower as the address of the person who posted them)
Trump had 3 aims for leaking it to the N.Y.T. :
1. To prick the myth of his tax returns, by leaking non-damaging tax returns.
2. To deflect attention from more damaging stuff.
3. To make the N.Y.T to break the law by publishing them, so he can play the victim.
It's not the first time Trump leaked stuff about himself to deflect attention and play the victim, he did the same thing with the Washington Post and those John Miller tapes.
Next time a journalist receives an envelope from Trump Tower he should think twise before opening it.
dont get me wrong, he could have leaked it himself (though i suspect EVEN he isnt that stupid) but i wouldnt say it helps him.
its not against the law to publish it: second amendment would apply. And no evidence it was stolen.
This tax return doesn't damage him because now he can say why he hasn't payed any taxes.
See ? You are now talking about Trump losing money in 1995 and not him paying zero taxes or about Miss Universe and his terrible debate.
Deflection.
And the N.Y.Times is not out of the legal woods by claiming freedom of speech rights since it's clearly illegal to publish tax returns without the person's consent.
For Trump it looks like Win Win Win, ot at least it evens out things.0 -
Apple has a brand. If that gets tarnished, there is little to fall back on. Nokia (which is still around and has just acquired Alcatel-Lucent) has a collection of 30,000+ patents, many of which read on 4G and 5G technology, as well as the Cloud and the IoT. They will hit $1 billion in licensing revenue this year for the first time ever. Their R&D gave them a fall back position; the same is now happening with BlackBerry.SeanT said:
Remember how quickly Nokia collapsed. Biggest mobile phone company in the world, hugely dominant - and now, zip.TonyE said:
I suppose the Blackberry experience is telling in that sense - whatever they did it didn't work. Their mojo had completely left them.williamglenn said:
Innovation doesn't work like that. If they've lost their way and fallen victim to design by committee, all the cash in the world won't help.TonyE said:
They have huge cash reserves, so that gives them a massive cushion to get the next one rightSeanT said:I've got this theory that the rubbishness of the new iPhone 7 (no headphone jack???) is indicative of a company heading into big trouble. Apple hasn't had a fabulous new product in several years.
This seems to confirm my suspicions:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/foxconns-smartphone-assembler-warns-52-profit-drop
Apple's reign won't last forever, they need brilliant new products - soon. Others have caught up, and maybe overtaken, and at the moment they are relying on reputation.
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GerroutofitSandyRentool said:
Could be worse. You could have suggested Middlesbrough.FF43 said:
So we're all going to holiday in Sunderland?williamglenn said:
That's what they said in Russia after the recent slide in the rouble. Then it became a patriotic duty to holiday in Crimea.
Edit: Joking aside, it's an interesting part of the country0 -
Yes well we'll have to see. It's a rubbish phone. I used my friends and was very unimpressed, ge has the all singing all dancing one as well with the shiny black exterior that he keeps in a microfibre pouch to stop it from scratching. If he could use white gloves to use it, I'm sure he would.SeanT said:
But the cult is crumbling. The Guardian has given the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus just 3 star reviews and bad ones at that. The Guardian hates being off trend, and used to be the biggest of Apple fanboisMaxPB said:
Apple have a cult.SeanT said:
Remember how quickly Nokia collapsed. Biggest mobile phone company in the world, hugely dominant - and now, zip.TonyE said:
I suppose the Blackberry experience is telling in that sense - whatever they did it didn't work. Their mojo had completely left them.williamglenn said:
Innovation doesn't work like that. If they've lost their way and fallen victim to design by committee, all the cash in the world won't help.TonyE said:
They have huge cash reserves, so that gives them a massive cushion to get the next one rightSeanT said:I've got this theory that the rubbishness of the new iPhone 7 (no headphone jack???) is indicative of a company heading into big trouble. Apple hasn't had a fabulous new product in several years.
This seems to confirm my suspicions:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/foxconns-smartphone-assembler-warns-52-profit-drop
Apple's reign won't last forever, they need brilliant new products - soon. Others have caught up, and maybe overtaken, and at the moment they are relying on reputation.
The headphone jack thing was just stupid. Trouble looms.0 -
No - it has just announced it will no longer make handsets, but it is still very much alive.RobD said:
Hasn't Blackberry gone bust?TonyE said:
Strangely, my wife's accountancy firm is now transferring from Blackberry to Apple. she's resigned to getting an IPhone even though she detests them.williamglenn said:
Oh and tomorrow, Google are going to release their first own brand mobile phone... Given how much of Apple's profits depend on the iPhone they will be in serious trouble if people start leaving their platform.SeanT said:I've got this theory that the rubbishness of the new iPhone 7 (no headphone jack???) is indicative of a company heading into big trouble. Apple hasn't had a fabulous new product in several years.
This seems to confirm my suspicions:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/foxconns-smartphone-assembler-warns-52-profit-drop
I quite like the hardware, and the uniformness of the interface across programs - but the problem is the fact that you just can't shift files from it to your pc easily, and the apps are a bit restrictive compared to Android.
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SpaceX is accusing a rival of shooting it's rocket with a rifle from a rooftop a mile away ?rcs1000 said:This is extraordinary
http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/rockets/a23183/spacex-sniped-rocket/
If Elon Musk is going down the conspiracy theory root to blame for failures, he should try at least to immitate Trump and claim that Ted Cruz's father shot his rocket.0 -
But you have to be in their ecosystem for them to benefit. I have an Android phone, there is no incentive for me to use iTunes or Apple music. I subscribe to Spotify. If you dump the iPad, don't get an Android one, I'd recommend a Surface Pro, more money but they are amazing. It's more flexible than Android and the Microsoft app store is slowly getting better because kf windows 10.SeanT said:
Apple also has the whole iTunes/iCloud ecosystem. Once you're locked into their technology it's hard to get out without a lot of boring hassle.SouthamObserver said:
Apple has a brand. If that gets tarnished, there is little to fall back on. Nokia (which is still around and has just acquired Alcatel-Lucent) has a collection of 30,000+ patents, many of which read on 4G and 5G technology, as well as the Cloud and the IoT. They will hit $1 billion in licensing revenue this year for the first time ever. Their R&D gave them a fall back position; the same is now happening with BlackBerry.SeanT said:
Remember how quickly Nokia collapsed. Biggest mobile phone company in the world, hugely dominant - and now, zip.TonyE said:
I suppose the Blackberry experience is telling in that sense - whatever they did it didn't work. Their mojo had completely left them.williamglenn said:
Innovation doesn't work like that. If they've lost their way and fallen victim to design by committee, all the cash in the world won't help.TonyE said:
They have huge cash reserves, so that gives them a massive cushion to get the next one rightSeanT said:I've got this theory that the rubbishness of the new iPhone 7 (no headphone jack???) is indicative of a company heading into big trouble. Apple hasn't had a fabulous new product in several years.
This seems to confirm my suspicions:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/foxconns-smartphone-assembler-warns-52-profit-drop
Apple's reign won't last forever, they need brilliant new products - soon. Others have caught up, and maybe overtaken, and at the moment they are relying on reputation.
This (and the iPad which I still love) is the one thing preventing me from a shift to Samsung and Android. Also, my MacBook, although it looks good, is a pile of shite compared to my Toshiba laptop, which cost half as much.0 -
They will never bring it back. Apple have an incredibly tin ear, they will not admit defeat and instead plough on and tell consumers they are wrong and hope that Android makers follow suit as Wintel manufacturers did with laptops and optical drives years ago.SeanT said:
I'm either waiting for the iPhone 8, in the vague hope they will fix the jack issue, or shifting to Samsung. Either way, it makes a change from arguing about Brexit.MaxPB said:
Yes well we'll have to see. It's a rubbish phone. I used my friends and was very unimpressed, ge has the all singing all dancing one as well with the shiny black exterior that he keeps in a microfibre pouch to stop it from scratching. If he could use white gloves to use it, I'm sure he would.SeanT said:
But the cult is crumbling. The Guardian has given the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus just 3 star reviews and bad ones at that. The Guardian hates being off trend, and used to be the biggest of Apple fanboisMaxPB said:
Apple have a cult.SeanT said:
Remember how quickly Nokia collapsed. Biggest mobile phone company in the world, hugely dominant - and now, zip.TonyE said:
I suppose the Blackberry experience is telling in that sense - whatever they did it didn't work. Their mojo had completely left them.williamglenn said:
Innovation doesn't work like that. If they've lost their way and fallen victim to design by committee, all the cash in the world won't help.TonyE said:
They have huge cash reserves, so that gives them a massive cushion to get the next one rightSeanT said:I've got this theory that the rubbishness of the new iPhone 7 (no headphone jack???) is indicative of a company heading into big trouble. Apple hasn't had a fabulous new product in several years.
This seems to confirm my suspicions:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/foxconns-smartphone-assembler-warns-52-profit-drop
Apple's reign won't last forever, they need brilliant new products - soon. Others have caught up, and maybe overtaken, and at the moment they are relying on reputation.
The headphone jack thing was just stupid. Trouble looms.0 -
If Microsoft can fix their App Store (thanks Apple for autocapitalising that) then the Surface Phone could be quite compelling if it ever comes.MaxPB said:
But you have to be in their ecosystem for them to benefit. I have an Android phone, there is no incentive for me to use iTunes or Apple music. I subscribe to Spotify. If you dump the iPad, don't get an Android one, I'd recommend a Surface Pro, more money but they are amazing. It's more flexible than Android and the Microsoft app store is slowly getting better because kf windows 10.SeanT said:
Apple also has the whole iTunes/iCloud ecosystem. Once you're locked into their technology it's hard to get out without a lot of boring hassle.SouthamObserver said:
Apple has a brand. If that gets tarnished, there is little to fall back on. Nokia (which is still around and has just acquired Alcatel-Lucent) has a collection of 30,000+ patents, many of which read on 4G and 5G technology, as well as the Cloud and the IoT. They will hit $1 billion in licensing revenue this year for the first time ever. Their R&D gave them a fall back position; the same is now happening with BlackBerry.SeanT said:
Remember how quickly Nokia collapsed. Biggest mobile phone company in the world, hugely dominant - and now, zip.TonyE said:
I suppose the Blackberry experience is telling in that sense - whatever they did it didn't work. Their mojo had completely left them.williamglenn said:
Innovation doesn't work like that. If they've lost their way and fallen victim to design by committee, all the cash in the world won't help.TonyE said:
They have huge cash reserves, so that gives them a massive cushion to get the next one rightSeanT said:I've got this theory that the rubbishness of the new iPhone 7 (no headphone jack???) is indicative of a company heading into big trouble. Apple hasn't had a fabulous new product in several years.
This seems to confirm my suspicions:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/foxconns-smartphone-assembler-warns-52-profit-drop
Apple's reign won't last forever, they need brilliant new products - soon. Others have caught up, and maybe overtaken, and at the moment they are relying on reputation.
This (and the iPad which I still love) is the one thing preventing me from a shift to Samsung and Android. Also, my MacBook, although it looks good, is a pile of shite compared to my Toshiba laptop, which cost half as much.0 -
It reminds me of the time I refused to upgrade from Windows XP to Vista.SeanT said:
I'm either waiting for the iPhone 8, in the vague hope they will fix the jack issue, or shifting to Samsung. Either way, it makes a change from arguing about Brexit.
Microsoft was forced to get Bill Gates out of retirement to help with Windows 7, which was essentially a light version of XP.
Since then I skipped Windows 8 and I will skip Windows 10 too, the future looks like Linux.
If Microsoft hadn't diverged some of it's business it would have been in big trouble.
A typical signal is once the founder of said revolutionary company or inventor of the original product has gone out, that company had reached it's market dominance peak.0 -
Errr, about $200 billion in cash and securities. About 2000 new patents per annum. A huge R&D spend (up to about $10 billion a year) which has been ramping up for the last several years, and likely has all kinds of hit products within it. A first-class CPU architecture division. Top notch software people, particularly on the tools side. The best industrial design teams. World class manufacturing teams. Several hundred million paying customers. Apart from that they have nothing.SouthamObserver said:Apple has a brand. If that gets tarnished, there is little to fall back on.
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Yeah, I can't believe Apple refused to bring back the floppy drive.MaxPB said:They will never bring it back. Apple have an incredibly tin ear, they will not admit defeat and instead plough on and tell consumers they are wrong and hope that Android makers follow suit as Wintel manufacturers did with laptops and optical drives years ago.
That was the beginning of the end...0 -
That syncs with your iTunes library? I don't think so. But there is a facetime replacement, Duo by Google is a basic p2p video chat app which works very well.SeanT said:
Is there an iTunes app for Android? Suddenly realised there might be (Google is confusing in its answers)MaxPB said:
But you have to be in their ecosystem for them to benefit. I have an Android phone, there is no incentive for me to use iTunes or Apple music. I subscribe to Spotify. If you dump the iPad, don't get an Android one, I'd recommend a Surface Pro, more money but they are amazing. It's more flexible than Android and the Microsoft app store is slowly getting better because kf windows 10.SeanT said:
Apple also has the whole iTunes/iCloud ecosystem. Once you're locked into their technology it's hard to get out without a lot of boring hassle.SouthamObserver said:
Apple has a brand. If that gets tarnished, there is little to fall back on. Nokia (which is still around and has just acquired Alcatel-Lucent) has a collection of 30,000+ patents, many of which read on 4G and 5G technology, as well as the Cloud and the IoT. They will hit $1 billion in licensing revenue this year for the first time ever. Their R&D gave them a fall back position; the same is now happening with BlackBerry.SeanT said:
Remember how quickly Nokia collapsed. Biggest mobile phone company in the world, hugely dominant - and now, zip.TonyE said:
I suppose the Blackberry experience is telling in that sense - whatever they did it didn't work. Their mojo had completely left them.williamglenn said:
Innovation doesn't work like that. If they've lost their way and fallen victim to design by committee, all the cash in the world won't help.TonyE said:
They have huge cash reserves, so that gives them a massive cushion to get the next one rightSeanT said:I've got this theory that the rubbishness of the new iPhone 7 (no headphone jack???) is indicative of a company heading into big trouble. Apple hasn't had a fabulous new product in several years.
This seems to confirm my suspicions:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-03/foxconns-smartphone-assembler-warns-52-profit-drop
Apple's reign won't last forever, they need brilliant new products - soon. Others have caught up, and maybe overtaken, and at the moment they are relying on reputation.
This (and the iPad which I still love) is the one thing preventing me from a shift to Samsung and Android. Also, my MacBook, although it looks good, is a pile of shite compared to my Toshiba laptop, which cost half as much.0 -
I thought it was much more ancient than that. Still it works, and now I'd have to lug an unsightly dongle around with me (the humanity).Scott_P said:
There is no "jack issue" unless you think a connector designed 50 years ago was the pinnacle of achievementSeanT said:AND fixes the jack issue
Oh, wait, you're a Brexiteer. 50 years ago was your apogee. It all makes sense now...0 -
The original 1⁄4 in (6.35 mm) version dates from 1878, when it was used for manual telephone exchanges, making it the oldest electrical connector standard still in use.RobD said:I thought it was much more ancient than that. Still it works, and now I'd have to lug an unsightly dongle around with me (the humanity).
The 3.5 mm or miniature and 2.5 mm or sub-miniature sizes were originally designed as two-conductor connectors for earpieces on transistor radios since the 1950s0 -
Tim Stanley
The transport panel includes Cllr Bob Sleigh #CPC16 https://t.co/BcscNOySYY0 -
They have tons of cash hidden in Ireland, but their products no longer sell as they used to.glw said:
Errr, about $200 billion in cash and securities. About 2000 new patents per annum. A huge R&D spend (up to about $10 billion a year) which has been ramping up for the last several years, and likely has all kinds of hit products within it. A first-class CPU architecture division. Top notch software people, particularly on the tools side. The best industrial design teams. World class manufacturing teams. Several hundred million paying customers. Apart from that they have nothing.SouthamObserver said:Apple has a brand. If that gets tarnished, there is little to fall back on.
I've seen the same story before with Microsoft.
They won't collapse overnight, but once the decline of the flagship product starts you need to find other products to sell, and Apple doesn't have anything as succesful to replace the iphone.
So Apple won't collapse but will decline in value.0 -
hmmm. i dont agree. there was no US Recession in 1995 for one thing.Speedy said:
Trump lost a lot of money in reach recession, he had to do multiple debt restructurings each time in the early 90's, the early 2000's, and the late 2000's.619 said:
thats an interesting theory! id say that massively hurts him because it makes him look like a loser who lost 900 million in one year.Speedy said:
What tax stuff ?619 said:
Have your figures factored in the tax stuff? That seems to be blowing up quite a bit.Speedy said:Time for the weekly update of my average daily tracking poll:
Hillary 46.5 nc
Trump 43.5 +0.5
Every week since the first update.
Hillary 46.5 46.5 45.5 44.5 45 46 46.5 47 47 45
Trump 43.5 43 44 43.5 42 42 41 40.5 41 43
Hillary seeems to have a ceiling at 47% and Trump a ceiling at 44%, since Sept. 26th neither candidates have seen much movement.
Trump has been trading in a range between 43-44% since Sept 10th.
Hillary was recovering everyday from Sept. 15th till the 26th.
Hillary has never gone bellow 44.5 and Trump never above 44.5, that sums it up.
The taxes Trump leaked to the New York Times on purpose ?
(The envelope containing those tax documents had Trump Tower as the address of the person who posted them)
Trump had 3 aims for leaking it to the N.Y.T. :
1. To prick the myth of his tax returns, by leaking non-damaging tax returns.
2. To deflect attention from more damaging stuff.
3. To make the N.Y.T to break the law by publishing them, so he can play the victim.
It's not the first time Trump leaked stuff about himself to deflect attention and play the victim, he did the same thing with the Washington Post and those John Miller tapes.
Next time a journalist receives an envelope from Trump Tower he should think twise before opening it.
dont get me wrong, he could have leaked it himself (though i suspect EVEN he isnt that stupid) but i wouldnt say it helps him.
its not against the law to publish it: second amendment would apply. And no evidence it was stolen.
This tax return doesn't damage him because now he can say why he hasn't payed any taxes.
See ? You are now talking about Trump losing money in 1995 and not him paying zero taxes or about Miss Universe and his terrible debate.
Deflection.
And the N.Y.Times is not out of the legal woods by claiming freedom of speech rights since it's clearly illegal to publish tax returns without the person's consent.
For Trump it looks like Win Win Win, ot at least it evens out things.
anyhow lets wait and see.0 -
Piffle. The Jack has been replaced to make room for other things.SeanT said:
The jack issue is completely different. The floppy drive was a passing bit of tech that was totally outdated.Scott_P said:
Yeah, I can't believe Apple refused to bring back the floppy drive.MaxPB said:They will never bring it back. Apple have an incredibly tin ear, they will not admit defeat and instead plough on and tell consumers they are wrong and hope that Android makers follow suit as Wintel manufacturers did with laptops and optical drives years ago.
That was the beginning of the end...
The jack is a universal piece of technology that is not outdated, it is positively historic, dating back to the 19th century. It is also brilliantly simple, and everyone likes it, because they know they will be able to plug and work anything anywhere with that simple 3.5mm thingy
Apple have got rid of this, and replaced it with an expensive, and proprietary gizmo, which is simultaneously inferior, and deeply irritating, and liable to be lost, whether you are using the dongle or the earpods. And they did it for no obvious reason, apart from a desire to be "courageous"
It's a stupid mistake. I'm sure this vast company will endure but too many more mistakes and who knows. Also, the watch? lol
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3f7a0054-4f5b-11e6-8172-e39ecd3b86fc.html?siteedition=uk#axzz4M2KlcpXZ0 -
The things that other manufacturers can fit in smaller phones with better specs and a headphone jack...rottenborough said:
Piffle. The Jack has been replaced to make room for other things.SeanT said:
The jack issue is completely different. The floppy drive was a passing bit of tech that was totally outdated.Scott_P said:
Yeah, I can't believe Apple refused to bring back the floppy drive.MaxPB said:They will never bring it back. Apple have an incredibly tin ear, they will not admit defeat and instead plough on and tell consumers they are wrong and hope that Android makers follow suit as Wintel manufacturers did with laptops and optical drives years ago.
That was the beginning of the end...
The jack is a universal piece of technology that is not outdated, it is positively historic, dating back to the 19th century. It is also brilliantly simple, and everyone likes it, because they know they will be able to plug and work anything anywhere with that simple 3.5mm thingy
Apple have got rid of this, and replaced it with an expensive, and proprietary gizmo, which is simultaneously inferior, and deeply irritating, and liable to be lost, whether you are using the dongle or the earpods. And they did it for no obvious reason, apart from a desire to be "courageous"
It's a stupid mistake. I'm sure this vast company will endure but too many more mistakes and who knows. Also, the watch? lol
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3f7a0054-4f5b-11e6-8172-e39ecd3b86fc.html?siteedition=uk#axzz4M2KlcpXZ0 -
Jack 2.0?rottenborough said:
Piffle. The Jack has been replaced to make room for other things.SeanT said:
The jack issue is completely different. The floppy drive was a passing bit of tech that was totally outdated.Scott_P said:
Yeah, I can't believe Apple refused to bring back the floppy drive.MaxPB said:They will never bring it back. Apple have an incredibly tin ear, they will not admit defeat and instead plough on and tell consumers they are wrong and hope that Android makers follow suit as Wintel manufacturers did with laptops and optical drives years ago.
That was the beginning of the end...
The jack is a universal piece of technology that is not outdated, it is positively historic, dating back to the 19th century. It is also brilliantly simple, and everyone likes it, because they know they will be able to plug and work anything anywhere with that simple 3.5mm thingy
Apple have got rid of this, and replaced it with an expensive, and proprietary gizmo, which is simultaneously inferior, and deeply irritating, and liable to be lost, whether you are using the dongle or the earpods. And they did it for no obvious reason, apart from a desire to be "courageous"
It's a stupid mistake. I'm sure this vast company will endure but too many more mistakes and who knows. Also, the watch? lol
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3f7a0054-4f5b-11e6-8172-e39ecd3b86fc.html?siteedition=uk#axzz4M2KlcpXZ0 -
Such as?rottenborough said:
Piffle. The Jack has been replaced to make room for other things.SeanT said:
The jack issue is completely different. The floppy drive was a passing bit of tech that was totally outdated.Scott_P said:
Yeah, I can't believe Apple refused to bring back the floppy drive.MaxPB said:They will never bring it back. Apple have an incredibly tin ear, they will not admit defeat and instead plough on and tell consumers they are wrong and hope that Android makers follow suit as Wintel manufacturers did with laptops and optical drives years ago.
That was the beginning of the end...
The jack is a universal piece of technology that is not outdated, it is positively historic, dating back to the 19th century. It is also brilliantly simple, and everyone likes it, because they know they will be able to plug and work anything anywhere with that simple 3.5mm thingy
Apple have got rid of this, and replaced it with an expensive, and proprietary gizmo, which is simultaneously inferior, and deeply irritating, and liable to be lost, whether you are using the dongle or the earpods. And they did it for no obvious reason, apart from a desire to be "courageous"
It's a stupid mistake. I'm sure this vast company will endure but too many more mistakes and who knows. Also, the watch? lol
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3f7a0054-4f5b-11e6-8172-e39ecd3b86fc.html?siteedition=uk#axzz4M2KlcpXZ0 -
I know of at least one piece of very expensive audio kit that was redesigned because they fitted a 3.5mm jack to the original version and it was almost unusable as a resultSeanT said:It is also brilliantly simple, and everyone likes it, because they know they will be able to plug and work anything anywhere with that simple 3.5mm thingy
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I like my MacBook. I have a windows desktop, and find the UI to be crap. Forced updates (which automatically restart the computer) are a right pain.SeanT said:
If you look at the figures, sales of iPads, iPhones, Apple watches and Apple laptops are ALL in decline.Speedy said:
They have tons of cash hidden in Ireland, but their products no longer sell as they used to.glw said:
Errr, about $200 billion in cash and securities. About 2000 new patents per annum. A huge R&D spend (up to about $10 billion a year) which has been ramping up for the last several years, and likely has all kinds of hit products within it. A first-class CPU architecture division. Top notch software people, particularly on the tools side. The best industrial design teams. World class manufacturing teams. Several hundred million paying customers. Apart from that they have nothing.SouthamObserver said:Apple has a brand. If that gets tarnished, there is little to fall back on.
I've seen the same story before with Microsoft.
They won't collapse overnight, but once the decline of the flagship product starts you need to find other products to sell, and Apple doesn't have anything as succesful to replace the iphone.
So Apple won't collapse but will decline in value.
Indeed MacBook sales are in freefall: a 40% decline year on year.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/apple-macbook-sales-decline-q1-2016/
This is not surprising, MacBooks are stupidly overpriced and clunky. I know, I have one.
It is amazing Apple are shares are holding up as they are. Is it simply inertia? The sheer size of Apple? Some secret yet genius product about to launched? Odd.0 -
It's like replacing the light switch with a dongle.Scott_P said:
There is no "jack issue" unless you think a connector designed 50 years ago was the pinnacle of achievementSeanT said:AND fixes the jack issue
Oh, wait, you're a Brexiteer. 50 years ago was your apogee. It all makes sense now...
There must be a parody of someone using the most complex faulty equipment imaginable to do a simple task.0 -
The fact that the package came from Trump Tower doesn't mean that Donald sent it. He may have enemies in his base.619 said:
hmmm. i dont agree. there was no US Recession in 1995 for one thing.Speedy said:
Trump lost a lot of money in reach recession, he had to do multiple debt restructurings each time in the early 90's, the early 2000's, and the late 2000's.619 said:
thats an interesting theory! id say that massively hurts him because it makes him look like a loser who lost 900 million in one year.Speedy said:
What tax stuff ?619 said:
Have your figures factored in the tax stuff? That seems to be blowing up quite a bit.Speedy said:Time for the weekly update of my average daily tracking poll:
Hillary 46.5 nc
Trump 43.5 +0.5
Every week since the first update.
Hillary 46.5 46.5 45.5 44.5 45 46 46.5 47 47 45
Trump 43.5 43 44 43.5 42 42 41 40.5 41 43
Hillary seeems to have a ceiling at 47% and Trump a ceiling at 44%, since Sept. 26th neither candidates have seen much movement.
Trump has been trading in a range between 43-44% since Sept 10th.
Hillary was recovering everyday from Sept. 15th till the 26th.
Hillary has never gone bellow 44.5 and Trump never above 44.5, that sums it up.
The taxes Trump leaked to the New York Times on purpose ?
(The envelope containing those tax documents had Trump Tower as the address of the person who posted them)
Trump had 3 aims for leaking it to the N.Y.T. :
1. To prick the myth of his tax returns, by leaking non-damaging tax returns.
2. To deflect attention from more damaging stuff.
3. To make the N.Y.T to break the law by publishing them, so he can play the victim.
It's not the first time Trump leaked stuff about himself to deflect attention and play the victim, he did the same thing with the Washington Post and those John Miller tapes.
Next time a journalist receives an envelope from Trump Tower he should think twise before opening it.
dont get me wrong, he could have leaked it himself (though i suspect EVEN he isnt that stupid) but i wouldnt say it helps him.
its not against the law to publish it: second amendment would apply. And no evidence it was stolen.
This tax return doesn't damage him because now he can say why he hasn't payed any taxes.
See ? You are now talking about Trump losing money in 1995 and not him paying zero taxes or about Miss Universe and his terrible debate.
Deflection.
And the N.Y.Times is not out of the legal woods by claiming freedom of speech rights since it's clearly illegal to publish tax returns without the person's consent.
For Trump it looks like Win Win Win, ot at least it evens out things.
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Presumably there is nothing stopping ULA (the Lockheed/Boeing consortium) keeping a lookout on their competitor's launch from the roof of their OWN building. I am not an expert, but the explosion looks like others that happen as a result of a leaking fuel tank.Speedy said:
SpaceX is accusing a rival of shooting it's rocket with a rifle from a rooftop a mile away ?rcs1000 said:This is extraordinary
http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/rockets/a23183/spacex-sniped-rocket/
If Elon Musk is going down the conspiracy theory root to blame for failures, he should try at least to immitate Trump and claim that Ted Cruz's father shot his rocket.0 -
When you put it like that it reminds me of the old joke about the Americans spending millions to design a pen that worked in zero gravity while the Russians used a pencil.Speedy said:
It's like replacing the light switch with a dongle.Scott_P said:
There is no "jack issue" unless you think a connector designed 50 years ago was the pinnacle of achievementSeanT said:AND fixes the jack issue
Oh, wait, you're a Brexiteer. 50 years ago was your apogee. It all makes sense now...
There must be a parody of someone using the most complex faulty equipment imaginable to do a simple task.
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It's ridiculous to expect Apple to automatically repeat the success of the iPod, iPhone, and iPad. Just creating one of those would be an amazing success by most standards. So yes Apple might well decline, but the idea that Apple might end up in serious trouble is over done. Apple are spending a colossal amount on R&D, and it's likely being spent on developing new classes of products we currently know nothing, or next to nothing, about. Apple can afford a lot of failures before they need a next big thing.Speedy said:They have tons of cash hidden in Ireland, but their products no longer sell as they used to.
I've seen the same story before with Microsoft.
They won't collapse overnight, but once the decline of the flagship product starts you need to find other products to sell, and Apple doesn't have anything as succesful to replace the iphone.
So Apple won't collapse but will decline in value.0 -
NYT's coup was getting the Trumps' former accountant to speak to them and to confirm he produced the leaked set of accounts.foxinsoxuk said:
The fact that the package came from Trump Tower doesn't mean that Donald sent it. He may have enemies in his base.0 -
Can you name someone else who has access to Trump's tax returns from 20 years ago who lives at the same address as Trump ?foxinsoxuk said:
The fact that the package came from Trump Tower doesn't mean that Donald sent it. He may have enemies in his base.
And of course don't forget Trump does those kinds of tricks.
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Wonder if they'll drop the headphone jack on that too. It does double as an optical audio port so there may be hope yet.Scott_P said:
The new Macbooks are due before the end of this monthSeanT said:This is true. I have the most up-to-date version of the MacBook and its PC rival. The Toshiba is vastly superior. AND cheaper.
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Mr. Speedy, aye, I refused Vista too. When my current hardware (practically geriatric) shuffles off I'll probably switch to a... Chromebook, I think it was [some PBers recommended something or other suitable for word processing and web browsing, which is almost all I use it for].
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A barometric vent, apparently.MaxPB said:
Such as?rottenborough said:
Piffle. The Jack has been replaced to make room for other things.SeanT said:
The jack issue is completely different. The floppy drive was a passing bit of tech that was totally outdated.Scott_P said:
Yeah, I can't believe Apple refused to bring back the floppy drive.MaxPB said:They will never bring it back. Apple have an incredibly tin ear, they will not admit defeat and instead plough on and tell consumers they are wrong and hope that Android makers follow suit as Wintel manufacturers did with laptops and optical drives years ago.
That was the beginning of the end...
The jack is a universal piece of technology that is not outdated, it is positively historic, dating back to the 19th century. It is also brilliantly simple, and everyone likes it, because they know they will be able to plug and work anything anywhere with that simple 3.5mm thingy
Apple have got rid of this, and replaced it with an expensive, and proprietary gizmo, which is simultaneously inferior, and deeply irritating, and liable to be lost, whether you are using the dongle or the earpods. And they did it for no obvious reason, apart from a desire to be "courageous"
It's a stupid mistake. I'm sure this vast company will endure but too many more mistakes and who knows. Also, the watch? lol
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3f7a0054-4f5b-11e6-8172-e39ecd3b86fc.html?siteedition=uk#axzz4M2KlcpXZ
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someone who works for his accountants?Speedy said:
Can you name someone else who has access to Trump's tax returns from 20 years ago who lives at the same address as Trump ?foxinsoxuk said:
The fact that the package came from Trump Tower doesn't mean that Donald sent it. He may have enemies in his base.
And of course don't forget Trump does those kinds of tricks.
I can imagine there is a "in case of PR emergency break glass" with stuff like that in Trump's office.
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More hypocrisy from Labour:
"So why does leftie Shami Chakrabarti send son to £18k school? Because her ex-husband told her to, claims Labour as party faces claims of hypocrisy
Controversial peer Shami Chakrabarti’s son goes to a top private school
13-year-old attends £18,000-a-year Dulwich College in south-east London"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3818750/Leftie-Shami-Chakrabarti-sends-son-18k-school-ex-husband-told-claims-Labour-party-faces-claims-hypocrisy.html0 -
And if any other company wishes to make something to connect to that light switch, say some cabling, then Apple will licence the device for an exorbitant fee.SeanT said:
A lightswitch made from plastic... that you can only flick if you are wearing special Apple LightSwitching iGloves, that cost $490, and which you will lose down the sofa within a fortnightScott_P said:
No, it really isn't.Speedy said:It's like replacing the light switch with a dongle.
A good analogy would be "It's like replacing a bakelite light switch with one made from plastic"
Originally conceived as "Made for iPod" back in January of 2005, the program initially charged steep fees rumored to have been in the realm of $10 per device, or 10% of the total retail cost of the accessory — whichever was greater.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/02/07/apple-lowers-mfi-lightening-licensing-fees-paving-way-for-more-affordable-ios-accessories-0 -
Steve Jobs actually invented those in the 80's along with the Apple Watch, it took decades for the costs and quality of components to make them mass produced.glw said:
It's ridiculous to expect Apple to automatically repeat the success of the iPod, iPhone, and iPad. Just creating one of those would be an amazing success by most standards. So yes Apple might well decline, but the idea that Apple might end up in serious trouble is over done. Apple are spending a colossal amount on R&D, and it's likely being spent on developing new classes of products we currently know nothing, or next to nothing, about. Apple can afford a lot of failures before they need a next big thing.Speedy said:They have tons of cash hidden in Ireland, but their products no longer sell as they used to.
I've seen the same story before with Microsoft.
They won't collapse overnight, but once the decline of the flagship product starts you need to find other products to sell, and Apple doesn't have anything as succesful to replace the iphone.
So Apple won't collapse but will decline in value.
And of course Jobs tested the prototypes himself in his everyday use to see how they wear and work.
But Jobs is dead and Apple can't seem to be able to replace him.
Ditto with Microsoft and Bill Gates once he retired, we have seen this before.0 -
Who has ever used their iPhone to measure altitude directly? You get that information from GPS, which I suspect is far more accurate than a pressure sensor.SeanT said:
The barometric vent apparently makes the phone slightly better at measuring altitude, MAYBE. For this they got rid of the jack.JosiasJessop said:
A barometric vent, apparently.MaxPB said:
Such as?rottenborough said:
Piffle. The Jack has been replaced to make room for other things.SeanT said:
The jack issue is completely different. The floppy drive was a passing bit of tech that was totally outdated.Scott_P said:
Yeah, I can't believe Apple refused to bring back the floppy drive.MaxPB said:They will never bring it back. Apple have an incredibly tin ear, they will not admit defeat and instead plough on and tell consumers they are wrong and hope that Android makers follow suit as Wintel manufacturers did with laptops and optical drives years ago.
That was the beginning of the end...
The jack is a universal piece of technology that is not outdated, it is positively historic, dating back to the 19th century. It is also brilliantly simple, and everyone likes it, because they know they will be able to plug and work anything anywhere with that simple 3.5mm thingy
Apple have got rid of this, and replaced it with an expensive, and proprietary gizmo, which is simultaneously inferior, and deeply irritating, and liable to be lost, whether you are using the dongle or the earpods. And they did it for no obvious reason, apart from a desire to be "courageous"
It's a stupid mistake. I'm sure this vast company will endure but too many more mistakes and who knows. Also, the watch? lol
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3f7a0054-4f5b-11e6-8172-e39ecd3b86fc.html?siteedition=uk#axzz4M2KlcpXZ
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone+7+Teardown/67382
Also, it makes the phone a bit more waterproof - how? - but no more waterproof than a Samsung or HTC, which are already waterproof, AND STILL HAVE A JACK
http://www.youredm.com/2016/09/17/ifixit-opens-iphone-7-reveals-barometric-vent-headphone-jack/0 -
Chromebook is fine for standard word processing but can be tricky for doing complicated things. Do you have someone format your ebooks for you?Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Speedy, aye, I refused Vista too. When my current hardware (practically geriatric) shuffles off I'll probably switch to a... Chromebook, I think it was [some PBers recommended something or other suitable for word processing and web browsing, which is almost all I use it for].
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tqH-Un9SFU
Secret Hack To Get Headphone Jack on the iPhone 7
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It's probably worth pointing out that Microsoft is still a very large and very profitable business, and they have a cloud services business that is growing fast. It's not like Microsoft is a failure by any sensible measure. Yeah one day Apple might also meet such a fate, becoming merely a very successful business, not the most successful business. Boo hoo.Speedy said:Ditto with Microsoft and Bill Gates once he retired, we have seen this before.
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The headphone jack thing is actually about the next generation of heaphones of all types moving massively to Bluetooth.glw said:
It's ridiculous to expect Apple to automatically repeat the success of the iPod, iPhone, and iPad. Just creating one of those would be an amazing success by most standards. So yes Apple might well decline, but the idea that Apple might end up in serious trouble is over done. Apple are spending a colossal amount on R&D, and it's likely being spent on developing new classes of products we currently know nothing, or next to nothing, about. Apple can afford a lot of failures before they need a next big thing.Speedy said:They have tons of cash hidden in Ireland, but their products no longer sell as they used to.
I've seen the same story before with Microsoft.
They won't collapse overnight, but once the decline of the flagship product starts you need to find other products to sell, and Apple doesn't have anything as succesful to replace the iphone.
So Apple won't collapse but will decline in value.0 -
Mr. Freggles, no, I do the formatting myself (about to make a first effort with Open Office, so we'll see how that goes).
I should stress I'm not getting anything in the near future and shall ask for advice nearer the time.0 -
In addition, AIUI he believed in only having a handful of products in any category. Where other manufacturers develop many different versions with all sorts of configurations, he wanted Apple's range to remain fairly simple.williamglenn said:
When you put it like that it reminds me of the old joke about the Americans spending millions to design a pen that worked in zero gravity while the Russians used a pencil.Speedy said:
It's like replacing the light switch with a dongle.Scott_P said:
There is no "jack issue" unless you think a connector designed 50 years ago was the pinnacle of achievementSeanT said:AND fixes the jack issue
Oh, wait, you're a Brexiteer. 50 years ago was your apogee. It all makes sense now...
There must be a parody of someone using the most complex faulty equipment imaginable to do a simple task.
The one thing Steve Jobs generally had going for him was good judgement about which ideas to kill.
So for the latest iPod Touches, you have four different configurations of memory sizes, with different colour options. The Nano, and the Shuffle have one configuration.
I'm not sure Jobs would have approved of the different colours that much (the original iMac notwithstanding). He was a black and white type of guy. 0 -
End NY fundraising, Trump foundation told
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The could have put a decent AMOLED screen on it for a start, like just about every other high end phone manufacture, the LED on the Iphone 7 is a POS by current standards.SeanT said:
I genuinely think Apple has simply run out of ideas with the iPhone, so they got rid of the jack just as a way to "appear" cutting edge - sorry, courageous - and of course to get people to buy expensive Apple earpods and dongles. Otherwise I see no reason. It's an unforced error.RobD said:
Who has ever used their iPhone to measure altitude directly? You get that information from GPS, which I suspect is far more accurate than a pressure sensor.SeanT said:
The barometric vent apparently makes the phone slightly better at measuring altitude, MAYBE. For this they got rid of the jack.JosiasJessop said:
A barometric vent, apparently.MaxPB said:
Such as?rottenborough said:
Piffle. The Jack has been replaced to make room for other things.SeanT said:
The jack issue is completely different. The floppy drive was a passing bit of tech that was totallScott_P said:
Yeah, I can't believe Apple refused to bring back the floppy drive.MaxPB said:They will never bring it back. Apple have an incredibly tin ear, they will not admit defeat and instead plough on and tell consumers they are wrong and hope that Android makers follow suit as Wintel manufacturers did with laptops and optical drives years ago.
That was the beginning of the end...
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3f7a0054-4f5b-11e6-8172-e39ecd3b86fc.html?siteedition=uk#axzz4M2KlcpXZ
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone+7+Teardown/67382
Also, it makes the phone a bit more waterproof - how? - but no more waterproof than a Samsung or HTC, which are already waterproof, AND STILL HAVE A JACK
http://www.youredm.com/2016/09/17/ifixit-opens-iphone-7-reveals-barometric-vent-headphone-jack/
To be fair it must be hard being innovative all the time. There's not much more you can do to a smartphone, with present technology. They are already amazing, but improvements are incremental. The next big step must be easy wireless charging and bendable phones but they're years away0
