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https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/sep/29/london-mayor-sadiq-khan-inquiry-foreign-property-ownership?CMP=twt_gu
This is about the best article I've read in the Guardian for years. Required reading for many reasons
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I would agree with that actually. Also the costs of Brexit will be somewhat absorbed by hopefully modest inflation. People will pay for it through lower real wages and reduced welfare (Apart from Brexit-loving OAPs who are protected by their triple lock pensions)SeanT said:
The £ is doing its job as a shock absorber. Besides it was significantly overvalued prior to Brexit, as our Trade Deficit confirms.FF43 said:
Mind you, the previous dip was due to the unexpected credit crunch. This is (relative) poverty that we voted for.SeanT said:
The £ was roughly around 1.16 against the € for most of 2008-2014MikeSmithson said:
So we are all about 17% poorer in terms of international buying power than on June 22nd.Pulpstar said:Official HMRC Oct: 1.1635 €/£ / 1.2967 $
Everyone enjoy limbo dancing ?
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Off-topic:
One of the latest buzzes in tech is the IoT - Internet of TatThings. This means that everyday devices are connected to the Internet. A fridge may detect that you are low on milk and order more; a freezer might switch off for an hour at a time of high demand for electricity.
Well it appears that - as some of us predicted - the IoT is a privacy and security nightmare.
http://arstechnica.co.uk/security/2016/09/botnet-of-145k-cameras-reportedly-deliver-internets-biggest-ddos-ever/0 -
Jeremy Corbyn should have promised putting Birmingham on Mars for $420 billion.Pulpstar said:0 -
Mr. Jessop, entirely agree. These fools weren't paying attention to Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park.0
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Hhhmmm ....Alistair said:I think the town hall format suits him better. By their nature try are more bitty and don't require him to stick on topic for 'long' periods of time. I am planning to Kay off a portion of my Clinton position pre debate as I smell a comeback narrative for debate 2. Given that Trump has now set the bar so low a slug could clear it he can hardly disappoint a second time.
I think the only format that suits Donald is where he does all the talking without interruption or critical comment lest of all from questions from the great unwashed at a Town Hall setting.
What could possibly go wrong ?!? ..
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Yes, just seen the update, hopefully the number won't increase.619 said:
3 fatalities reportedSunil_Prasannan said:
Thankfully no fatalities.JosiasJessop said:New York train crash looks bad.
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Which will happen first ?AlastairMeeks said:
Jeremy Corbyn should have promised putting Birmingham on Mars for $420 billion.Pulpstar said:
High speed rail (To Birmingham !) or a human Mars landing ?0 -
I can get to Birmingham for £29 (from London Marylebone - 1hr 40 mins).Pulpstar said:0 -
LOL. That's a hilarious tweet.Pulpstar said:
But leaving that aside: SpaceX are not 'promising' that; that is their current estimate.
As a counter example, NASA's much less ambitious SLS program is $18 billion, with perhaps each launch costing $500 million. So expensive that NASA can probably only afford a couple of launches per year.
If SpaceX make their rocket, it would be amazing. If they get anywhere near approaching the launch cadence they quote it would be a miracle.
Needless to say, I hope they manage it.0 -
Isn't 125 mph high speed enough? 82 minutes from London Euston.Pulpstar said:
Which will happen first ?AlastairMeeks said:
Jeremy Corbyn should have promised putting Birmingham on Mars for $420 billion.Pulpstar said:
High speed rail (To Birmingham !) or a human Mars landing ?0 -
Your point being?Sunil_Prasannan said:
I can get to Birmingham for £29 (from London Marylebone - 1hr 40 mins).Pulpstar said:
As an aside, I've walked Birmingham to London, and later London to Birmingham, both times following the Grand Union Canal.
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IanB2 is just being silly.SeanT said:
I imagine any EU citizen without a job, or means of support, or who is one of the estimated 30-35% homeless people in the UK from elsewhere in the EU, will be in danger of deportation, post BrexitIanB2 said:
Brexiters are simultaneously avocating a more free-market free-booting global economic strategy for the UK, and also that the grotesque inequalities that are spreading across the world will somehow be resolved here in the UK. Quite how this is supposed to work, I do not see.
One in five rough sleepers in London comes from just one EU country: Romania
The tension between efficiency and fairness (equity) is at the heart of all economic policy conundrums, not just Brexit. Through Brexit, we at least get to make those decisions for ourselves. Whether the economy is more efficient, larger or smaller post-Brexit (longer-term, rather than immediate aftermath) will depend on how good those choices are.
It is certainly not contradictory to say that you want to both have a more free-market economic strategy and simultaneously address through policy means any inequities that would entail. Lots of other questions arise as a consequence, but the stance itself is not a contradiction.0 -
Much less the £42 billion the Tweeter tweetedJosiasJessop said:
Your point being?Sunil_Prasannan said:
I can get to Birmingham for £29 (from London Marylebone - 1hr 40 mins).Pulpstar said: 0 -
It's about capacity.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Isn't 125 mph high speed enough? 82 minutes from London Euston.Pulpstar said:
Which will happen first ?AlastairMeeks said:
Jeremy Corbyn should have promised putting Birmingham on Mars for $420 billion.Pulpstar said:
High speed rail (To Birmingham !) or a human Mars landing ?0 -
There is no way it is going to go according to the budget and timeline that Musk has set out.JosiasJessop said:
LOL. That's a hilarious tweet.Pulpstar said:
But leaving that aside: SpaceX are not 'promising' that; that is their current estimate.
As a counter example, NASA's much less ambitious SLS program is $18 billion, with perhaps each launch costing $500 million. So expensive that NASA can probably only afford a couple of launches per year.
If SpaceX make their rocket, it would be amazing. If they get anywhere near approaching the launch cadence they quote it would be a miracle.
Needless to say, I hope they manage it.
But (before I die hopefully) I think there WILL be humans on Mars. And it is probably Spacex that will get them there.
The key is that this is a private venture, and there are assets behind it. Public (NASA) has gone nowhere since the late 60s, and other private ventures don't have any assets or experience behind them.
Hopefully Spacex rtf will be in November, if that was NASA's accident then the rtf would be delayed for years.
Incidentally have you seen this: http://www.spacehabs.com/ ?
Now the guy behind it (Bryan Versteeg) has some idea of the payload capacity behind the 'Heart of Gold', he can design some initial outpost that could actually be transported there (Rather than the Mars One guff)
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I 've walked from London to Shoeburyness following the original (1922) route of the A13 - and back!JosiasJessop said:
As an aside, I've walked Birmingham to London, and later London to Birmingham, both times following the Grand Union Canal.
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Which are more frequent?JosiasJessop said:
It's about capacity.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Isn't 125 mph high speed enough? 82 minutes from London Euston.Pulpstar said:
Which will happen first ?AlastairMeeks said:
Jeremy Corbyn should have promised putting Birmingham on Mars for $420 billion.Pulpstar said:
High speed rail (To Birmingham !) or a human Mars landing ?
Virgin's trains from Euston to New Street, or London Underground's trains from Woodford to Hainault?0 -
Yes. Because you're sensible.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I 've walked from London to Shoeburyness following the original (1922) route of the A13 - and back!JosiasJessop said:
As an aside, I've walked Birmingham to London, and later London to Birmingham, both times following the Grand Union Canal.
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Interesting Rentoul article on the current Labour power centres and the unlikelihood of a ceasefire.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/labour-jeremy-corbyn-guide-to-the-civil-war-a7337321.html0 -
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Deutsche Bank factoid: Since 2009: DB shareholders put up 13.5 billion euros in equity. DB has paid 19.3 billion euro in bonuses. Wow!0 -
And yet the good Lord has seen fit to take Ronnie Corbett, David Bowie and Prince.0
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All these posh boys trying to take over....
http://order-order.com/2016/09/29/grammar-critic-in-labour-ppb-went-to-18000-a-year-private-school/0 -
No, I hadn't seen that, thanks. I believe SpaceX are not bothering with designing much hab kit themselves - it looks as though they want third parties to develop them. If so, his ideas might actually happen.Pulpstar said:There is no way it is going to go according to the budget and timeline that Musk has set out.
But (before I die hopefully) I think there WILL be humans on Mars. And it is probably Spacex that will get them there.
The key is that this is a private venture, and there are assets behind it. Public (NASA) has gone nowhere since the late 60s, and other private ventures don't have any assets or experience behind them.
Hopefully Spacex rtf will be in November, if that was NASA's accident then the rtf would be delayed for years.
Incidentally have you seen this: http://www.spacehabs.com/ ?
Now the guy behind it (Bryan Versteeg) has some idea of the payload capacity behind the 'Heart of Gold', he can design some initial outpost that could actually be transported there (Rather than the Mars One guff)
How cool is that !
I'm not sure being a private company makes much difference - after all, ULA is owned by two companies - Lockheed and Boeing.
I've been reading NASA's official histories on the Space Shuttle, and they show well how they developed what was a glorious failure. Basically: there was no mission for the shuttle. NASA wanted to keep going into space with manned vehicles, but their budget had been decreasing since 1966. So they teamed up with the Air Force, and then had to pare the system to the core as the budgetary offices got involved. It was designed to a cost instead of a mission.
And why? There was no firm mission for what it would be used for. Initially it was meant to be part of a space system, with space station, moon base, space tugs etc. But as the budget was unavailable for each of these, they were left with just the shuttle, and a reduced one at that.
The same can be seen with the current SLS. There is no real mission for it, only vague ideas.
SpaceX has the benefit of having one overarching ambition and mission. They know where they're headed. The same with NASA thoughout the sixties: they had a clear mission:
To get a man on the moon: check
To return him safely: check.
Before the end of the decade: check.
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The most logical thing to do is to extend the term of the existing representatives by a year (or whatever).edmundintokyo said:
The conundrum is going to be if the left win the elections, but by a margin smaller than the representation from British Labour. Does their candidate then get Juncker's job?YellowSubmarine said:If the EU Treaties are still in force in the UK in June 2019 we're entitled to representation in the new European Parliament. The UK government could cancel the elections but would be open to legal challenge. Thus delay A50 notification past June 2017 involves us electing MEP's for a few months. It doesn't bother me. It would be funny but it'll p*ss off lots of other people.
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TSE??FrancisUrquhart said:All these posh boys trying to take over....
http://order-order.com/2016/09/29/grammar-critic-in-labour-ppb-went-to-18000-a-year-private-school/0 -
I guess a less articulate Ken Clarke would have just said: "How dare the plebs get a choice".
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@BBCBreaking: UK government and French energy giant EDF sign contract for new £18bn Hinkley Point C nuclear power station bbc.in/2dcFkTw0
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After Mars, would the moons of Jupiter/Saturn be next, or would asteroid belt-mining be the next shindig?
So far space-stuff is quite friendly, but once money comes into it, will that continue?0 -
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/a-users-guide-to-fivethirtyeights-2016-general-election-forecast/Sean_F said:
How exactly do 538 adjust published poll numbers?JackW said:0 -
He called the 2015 GE better than 99% of others.Jobabob said:
A loathsome holocaust denier. He makes Trump look like a bleeding heart liberal.Pulpstar said:I see alot of Hillary love here today - anyway I checked with THE authority on these matters, and the sage of Crosby thinks it is
"All going to plan ^_~"0 -
Some companies are already looking at asteroid mining, and scientists would love to send more probes (especially large ones) to the outer planets. SpaceX also claim their ship could visit places like Enceladus.Morris_Dancer said:After Mars, would the moons of Jupiter/Saturn be next, or would asteroid belt-mining be the next shindig?
So far space-stuff is quite friendly, but once money comes into it, will that continue?
There's actually an issue with this, though. An acquaintance of mine is a planetary scientist, and she says they are running out of scientists to decipher the information we get from probes, landers and telescopes.
Our informational bandwidth is increasing, whist our human bandwidth to decipher the information is remaining more or less the same.0 -
Still waiting for the absolute 100% definitely going to come any second now pivot to the centre.TGOHF said:
He called the 2015 GE better than 99% of others.Jobabob said:
A loathsome holocaust denier. He makes Trump look like a bleeding heart liberal.Pulpstar said:I see alot of Hillary love here today - anyway I checked with THE authority on these matters, and the sage of Crosby thinks it is
"All going to plan ^_~"0 -
Live on CNBC - Wells Fargo CEO just admitted to stealing from over one million account holders since 2011. Amazing0
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Mr. Jessop, then we'll get into the territory of asking who owns the asteroid belt. Hmm.0
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Some of the inner jovian moons can be ruled out immediately, Io definitely - the radiation Jupiter emits is absolubtely ferocious - radiation, and severe heat are two things that are impossible to deal with. Severe cold with a thin atmosphere is a doddle by comparison.JosiasJessop said:
Some companies are already looking at asteroid mining, and scientists would love to send more probes (especially large ones) to the outer planets. SpaceX also claim their ship could visit places like Enceladus.Morris_Dancer said:After Mars, would the moons of Jupiter/Saturn be next, or would asteroid belt-mining be the next shindig?
So far space-stuff is quite friendly, but once money comes into it, will that continue?
There's actually an issue with this, though. An acquaintance of mine is a planetary scientist, and she says they are running out of scientists to decipher the information we get from probes, landers and telescopes.
Our informational bandwidth is increasing, whist our human bandwidth to decipher the information is remaining more or less the same.0 -
Business man looking for a deal shock.Scott_P said:0 -
Nissan make shit cars anyway, they should just go. We don't want their like here.SouthamObserver said:
Anyway he's bluffing. Who does he think he is. Japan isn't even in the EU for goodness sake.
Good for proper BRITISH car manufacturers, like, er, er, erm. Oh. Fuck.0 -
The Man Who Sold the MoonMorris_Dancer said:Mr. Jessop, then we'll get into the territory of asking who owns the asteroid belt. Hmm.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Sold_the_Moon
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Both in parallel I would have thought.Morris_Dancer said:After Mars, would the moons of Jupiter/Saturn be next, or would asteroid belt-mining be the next shindig?
So far space-stuff is quite friendly, but once money comes into it, will that continue?
On friendliness, https://deepspaceindustries.com/is-asteroid-mining-legal/
The Outer Space Treaty says nations cannot claim territory in space and you can't do military stuff, but Congress passed an Act last year providing for private commercial exploitation.0 -
Kind of inevitable. There are WTO rules on subsidies. Be interesting if the EU took an action out against us before we have even settled our WTO statusSouthamObserver said:0 -
I thought the ditherer wouldn't get anything doneScott_P said:@BBCBreaking: UK government and French energy giant EDF sign contract for new £18bn Hinkley Point C nuclear power station bbc.in/2dcFkTw
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Mr. Flashman (deceased), quite.
Mr. Pulpstar, the second Sleeping Gods book (Erebus, I think) by Ralph Kern deals with an exploding Jovian moon.
In important news, I might have come up with (an admittedly unoriginal) gift for someone who has proved a bugger to buy for. Why aren't more people into sensible things, like classical history and F1?
Speaking of which, the qualifying and race will be in the morning.0 -
Well if he should get a deal then only Sunderland residents should pay for that deal.SouthamObserver said:
Why should I fund the mistakes of the Mackems? They were warned beforehand.0 -
Too right he is. What happens if he does not get it? Why would Nissan make cars for the singe market in the UK when they could make them elsewhere in the single market for less money?TGOHF said:
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If a return ticket on HS2 were £42 billion it may be comparable.Pulpstar said:0 -
Mr. X, got to say I think the 'no military' stuff won't last long. Every side must be developing their own weapons, whether that's missiles or masers. The only chance of avoiding a space war is MAD.0
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https://newsroom.nissan-global.com/releases/nissan-in-europe-announces-record-sales-in-western-europe-2015-fiscal-year
29% of Nissan sales in Europe are in the Uk.
Next highest market is France with 13%.
Perhaps Hollande will pay him for any hard Brexit tariffs for importing cars into the Uk ?
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They weren't the only ones to vote Leave? In any case, Labour supporters don't stop paying taxes whenever a Tory wins, and vice versa.TheScreamingEagles said:
Well if he should get a deal then only Sunderland residents should pay for that deal.SouthamObserver said:
Why should I fund the mistakes of the Mackems? They were warned beforehand. 0 -
I think Nissan Sunderland is OK for the next few years. The Qashqai is selling like hotcakes and they won't want to jeopardise production. After that, Nissan will need tariff free access the EU or they will move production to any number of Renault plants (including in Morocco).SouthamObserver said:
Too right he is. What happens if he does not get it? Why would Nissan make cars for the singe market in the UK when they could make them elsewhere in the single market for less money?TGOHF said:0 -
I suggest that wealthy Europhile lawyers like TSE should personally foot the bill of our EUTheScreamingEagles said:
Well if he should get a deal then only Sunderland residents should pay for that deal.SouthamObserver said:
Why should I fund the mistakes of the Mackems? They were warned beforehand.protection moneymembership fees, until we do finally Brexit.0 -
Jovian Radiation Moon rem/dayMorris_Dancer said:Mr. Flashman (deceased), quite.
Mr. Pulpstar, the second Sleeping Gods book (Erebus, I think) by Ralph Kern deals with an exploding Jovian moon.
In important news, I might have come up with (an admittedly unoriginal) gift for someone who has proved a bugger to buy for. Why aren't more people into sensible things, like classical history and F1?
Speaking of which, the qualifying and race will be in the morning.
Io 3600
Europa 540
Ganymede 8
Callisto 0.01
Io/Europa = Instadeath.0 -
It would be a move of marketing genius to dump production in your biggest market in the area with all the job losses and lovely tabloid headlines around your brand. We're off to Poland - where they don't buy our cars...FF43 said:
I think Nissan Sunderland is OK for the next few years. The Qashqai is selling like hotcakes and they won't want to jeopardise production. After that, Nissan will need tariff free access the EU or they will move production to any number of Renault plants (including in Morocco).SouthamObserver said:
Too right he is. What happens if he does not get it? Why would Nissan make cars for the singe market in the UK when they could make them elsewhere in the single market for less money?TGOHF said:
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The Outer Space Act 1986 has the coolest provision of any statute.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. X, got to say I think the 'no military' stuff won't last long. Every side must be developing their own weapons, whether that's missiles or masers. The only chance of avoiding a space war is MAD.
Minor definitions
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“outer space” includes the moon and other celestial bodies
If that is a minor definition what would a major definition look like?
The "no military" stuff inhibits a lot of good peaceful ideas in that two quite good ways of propelling a spacecraft are to detonate atom bombs just behind it, or put a sail on it and have a humongous great laser in low earth orbit to shoot at the sail. Both open to misinterpretation and abuse.0 -
Yep - I think that will be the main Brexit story: the loss of investments that would have been made and of jobs that would have been created had we stayed in the single market.FF43 said:
I think Nissan Sunderland is OK for the next few years. The Qashqai is selling like hotcakes and they won't want to jeopardise production. After that, Nissan will need tariff free access the EU or they will move production to any number of Renault plants (including in Morocco).SouthamObserver said:
Too right he is. What happens if he does not get it? Why would Nissan make cars for the singe market in the UK when they could make them elsewhere in the single market for less money?TGOHF said:
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Interesting comparison of attitudes post referendum Honda say the will turn their Swindon plant into a world manufacturing centre, Nissan (with a French company under their belt) say they want subsidies.Scott_P said:0 -
It doesn't make any difference. Those import tariffs would apply to all cars, which will become more expensive to consumers and our government will probably need the extra money anyway.TGOHF said:https://newsroom.nissan-global.com/releases/nissan-in-europe-announces-record-sales-in-western-europe-2015-fiscal-year
29% of Nissan sales in Europe are in the Uk.
Next highest market is France with 13%.
Perhaps Hollande will pay him for any hard Brexit tariffs for importing cars into the Uk ?
I do expect a tariff-free deal on machinery and chemicals however. It's in everyone's interest and relatively uncontroversial.0 -
He is good at calling elections though.Jobabob said:
A loathsome holocaust denier. He makes Trump look like a bleeding heart liberal.Pulpstar said:I see alot of Hillary love here today - anyway I checked with THE authority on these matters, and the sage of Crosby thinks it is
"All going to plan ^_~"
His successes have mostly come from the Right wing.
Some of the other stuff he posts is pretty dodgy though.0 -
Surely not! The alien's message was:Pulpstar said:
Jovian Radiation Moon rem/dayMorris_Dancer said:Mr. Flashman (deceased), quite.
Mr. Pulpstar, the second Sleeping Gods book (Erebus, I think) by Ralph Kern deals with an exploding Jovian moon.
In important news, I might have come up with (an admittedly unoriginal) gift for someone who has proved a bugger to buy for. Why aren't more people into sensible things, like classical history and F1?
Speaking of which, the qualifying and race will be in the morning.
Io 3600
Europa 540
Ganymede 8
Callisto 0.01
Io/Europa = Instadeath.
ALL THESE WORLDS
ARE YOURS EXCEPT
EUROPA
ATTEMPT NO
LANDING THERE
USE THEM TOGETHER
USE THEM IN PEACE
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To be fair Honda doesn't have the choices Renault/Nissan has. AFAIK Swindon is Honda's sole manufacturing plant in Europe. They won't want to be paying tariffs either and if Nissan gets welfare they will ask for it too.HurstLlama said:
Interesting comparison of attitudes post referendum Honda say the will turn their Swindon plant into a world manufacturing centre, Nissan (with a French company under their belt) say they want subsidies.Scott_P said:0 -
The UK is in a strong position vs Nissan on those figures.TGOHF said:https://newsroom.nissan-global.com/releases/nissan-in-europe-announces-record-sales-in-western-europe-2015-fiscal-year
29% of Nissan sales in Europe are in the Uk.
Next highest market is France with 13%.
Perhaps Hollande will pay him for any hard Brexit tariffs for importing cars into the Uk ?
And with the cheap pound they have no excuse, it's cheaper now to build cars in the UK than even with WTO tarrifs.
They are trying to see if they can bend the government into subsidies.0 -
Mr. Pulpstar, so, someone wouldn't even have a half-life expectancy there?
[I do apologise].
Mr. Observer, of course, losses real and imaginary will be banged on about as much as the real and fictional aspects of Project Fear.
Edited extra bit: and if anyone does want to read of war in space, my excellent short story Dead Weight is in this anthology and contains a spot of space war:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Explorations-Through-Wormhole-Ralph-Kern-ebook/dp/B01LC0JZD4/0 -
I'm sure they would wring their hands as they moved ...TGOHF said:
It would be a move of marketing genius to dump production in your biggest market in the area with all the job losses and lovely tabloid headlines around your brand. We're off to Poland - where they don't buy our cars...FF43 said:
I think Nissan Sunderland is OK for the next few years. The Qashqai is selling like hotcakes and they won't want to jeopardise production. After that, Nissan will need tariff free access the EU or they will move production to any number of Renault plants (including in Morocco).SouthamObserver said:
Too right he is. What happens if he does not get it? Why would Nissan make cars for the singe market in the UK when they could make them elsewhere in the single market for less money?TGOHF said:0 -
OK, but please explain Ford investment decisions to us. They shut production facilities in the UK, within the EU, and moved them to Turkey, outside the EU.SouthamObserver said:
Yep - I think that will be the main Brexit story: the loss of investments that would have been made and of jobs that would have been created had we stayed in the single market.FF43 said:
I think Nissan Sunderland is OK for the next few years. The Qashqai is selling like hotcakes and they won't want to jeopardise production. After that, Nissan will need tariff free access the EU or they will move production to any number of Renault plants (including in Morocco).SouthamObserver said:
Too right he is. What happens if he does not get it? Why would Nissan make cars for the singe market in the UK when they could make them elsewhere in the single market for less money?TGOHF said:
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Which tat were you thinking of? Given that (a) that tat (if that's what it is) is pretty important to the bread and circuses that people want; and (b) China's long since replaced Birmingham as the workshop of the world, it seems pretty sweeping.Pulpstar said:
Cars and pharma seem to be our two main exports - chinese tat the main import.SeanT said:
The £ is doing its job as a shock absorber. Besides it was significantly overvalued prior to Brexit, as our Trade Deficit confirms.FF43 said:
Mind you, the previous dip was due to the unexpected credit crunch. This is (relative) poverty that we voted for.SeanT said:
The £ was roughly around 1.16 against the € for most of 2008-2014MikeSmithson said:
So we are all about 17% poorer in terms of international buying power than on June 22nd.Pulpstar said:Official HMRC Oct: 1.1635 €/£ / 1.2967 $
Everyone enjoy limbo dancing ?
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Well according to my average daily tracking poll, the debate does seem to have boosted Hillary's lead by about 1% from 3 before the debate to 4 after.foxinsoxuk said:
He is good at calling elections though.Jobabob said:
A loathsome holocaust denier. He makes Trump look like a bleeding heart liberal.Pulpstar said:I see alot of Hillary love here today - anyway I checked with THE authority on these matters, and the sage of Crosby thinks it is
"All going to plan ^_~"
His successes have mostly come from the Right wing.
Some of the other stuff he posts is pretty dodgy though.
But how will Trump overcome a Hillary lead of 4% in 30 days ?
Especially since he is so bad at debates, and events like Riots and Terrorism boost Hillary intstead of Trump.0 -
If you think BMW and Mercedes will be happy with a tariff for cars moving between the EU and Uk you are smoking the good stuff.FF43 said:
It doesn't make any difference. Those import tariffs would apply to all cars, which will become more expensive to consumers and our government will probably need the extra money anyway.TGOHF said:https://newsroom.nissan-global.com/releases/nissan-in-europe-announces-record-sales-in-western-europe-2015-fiscal-year
29% of Nissan sales in Europe are in the Uk.
Next highest market is France with 13%.
Perhaps Hollande will pay him for any hard Brexit tariffs for importing cars into the Uk ?
I do expect a tariff-free deal on machinery and chemicals however. It's in everyone's interest and relatively uncontroversial.0 -
I think 8 rems/day is OK for a flyby or some such, you probably wouldn't want to get any closer than Ganymede to Jupiter mind (The Juno probe is quite some feat of engineering to be able to survive the Jovian cloud tops !)Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Pulpstar, so, someone wouldn't even have a half-life expectancy there?
[I do apologise].
Mr. Observer, of course, losses real and imaginary will be banged on about as much as the real and fictional aspects of Project Fear.
Thinking about it further, I'd rather pay for a final trip to the outer solar system (Radiation and all) rather than drowning in my own piss in a nursing home...0 -
I don't think you read my post you quoted.TGOHF said:
If you think BMW and Mercedes will be happy with a tariff for cars moving between the EU and Uk you are smoking the good stuff.FF43 said:
It doesn't make any difference. Those import tariffs would apply to all cars, which will become more expensive to consumers and our government will probably need the extra money anyway.TGOHF said:https://newsroom.nissan-global.com/releases/nissan-in-europe-announces-record-sales-in-western-europe-2015-fiscal-year
29% of Nissan sales in Europe are in the Uk.
Next highest market is France with 13%.
Perhaps Hollande will pay him for any hard Brexit tariffs for importing cars into the Uk ?
I do expect a tariff-free deal on machinery and chemicals however. It's in everyone's interest and relatively uncontroversial.
Edit. There's a distinction between whether there is tariff free trade and where Nissan will place their production. No-one wants tariffs. Nissan and Renault are totally unsentimental about where they produce their cars. They will produce in Sunderland only as long as it is cheaper all in than a dozen other factories across France, Romania, Turkey and Morocco0 -
Does "Buy British" have any real resonance with people buying cars. In the case of Nissan, I'd have thought that people are buying perceived Japanese quality/fit for purpose, rather than made in Wearside. I'd be interested if there's actual evidence to the contrary. [in the same way as with Apple, people are buying ease of use/California, not made in China]TGOHF said:
It would be a move of marketing genius to dump production in your biggest market in the area with all the job losses and lovely tabloid headlines around your brand. We're off to Poland - where they don't buy our cars...FF43 said:
I think Nissan Sunderland is OK for the next few years. The Qashqai is selling like hotcakes and they won't want to jeopardise production. After that, Nissan will need tariff free access the EU or they will move production to any number of Renault plants (including in Morocco).SouthamObserver said:
Too right he is. What happens if he does not get it? Why would Nissan make cars for the singe market in the UK when they could make them elsewhere in the single market for less money?TGOHF said:0 -
Daily tracking polls were miles off in predicting the Uk election and the Brexit referendum.Speedy said:
Well according to my average daily tracking poll, the debate does seem to have boosted Hillary's lead by about 1% from 3 before the debate to 4 after.foxinsoxuk said:
He is good at calling elections though.Jobabob said:
A loathsome holocaust denier. He makes Trump look like a bleeding heart liberal.Pulpstar said:I see alot of Hillary love here today - anyway I checked with THE authority on these matters, and the sage of Crosby thinks it is
"All going to plan ^_~"
His successes have mostly come from the Right wing.
Some of the other stuff he posts is pretty dodgy though.
But how will Trump overcome a Hillary lead of 4% in 30 days ?
Especially since he is so bad at debates, and events like Riots and Terrorism boost Hillary intstead of Trump.0 -
Re Rod and election predictions.
Despite having some shall we say very odd ideas about certain things...for UK elections, I have previously challenged on him on his approach and he was able to provide academic literature upon what he based his model on. Obviously we can argue about the methodology, what adjustments he was making etc, but it certainly wasn't total pie in the sky stuff and proved correct for the past 2 GE.
However, I seemed to remember him saying that a similar approach wasn't applicable for US elections and I don't remember him ever giving any details about what his Trump prediction was based upon.0 -
I tend to agree. Appeals to patriotism in car-buying (like poor MG-Rover) are always seen as quite desperate and off-putting sadly. It's an instinctive response that makes you think the more flag-waving the shitter the product.matt said:
Does "Buy British" have any real resonance with people buying cars. In the case of Nissan, I'd have thought that people are buying perceived Japanese quality/fit for purpose, rather than made in Wearside. I'd be interested if there's actual evidence to the contrary. [in the same way as with Apple, people are buying ease of use/California, not made in China]TGOHF said:
It would be a move of marketing genius to dump production in your biggest market in the area with all the job losses and lovely tabloid headlines around your brand. We're off to Poland - where they don't buy our cars...FF43 said:
I think Nissan Sunderland is OK for the next few years. The Qashqai is selling like hotcakes and they won't want to jeopardise production. After that, Nissan will need tariff free access the EU or they will move production to any number of Renault plants (including in Morocco).SouthamObserver said:
Too right he is. What happens if he does not get it? Why would Nissan make cars for the singe market in the UK when they could make them elsewhere in the single market for less money?TGOHF said:
Domestic producers (waits for laughs to die down) need to be producing better stuff than their foreign competitors. Then the consumer will get behind the 'AND it's British' message. And not before.0 -
He predicted the Obama victory, if he thought Hillary was going to win then he'd have gone with that.FrancisUrquhart said:Re Rod and election predictions.
Despite having some shall we say very odd ideas about certain things...for UK elections, I have previously challenged on him on his approach and he was able to provide academic literature upon what he based his model on. Obviously we can argue about the methodology, what adjustments he was making etc, but it certainly wasn't pie in the sky stuff and proved correct for the past 2 GE.
However, I seemed to remember him saying that a similar approach wasn't applicable for US elections and I don't remember him ever giving any details about what his Trump prediction was based upon.0 -
I didn't even know they where any daily tracking polls for Brexit, but I agree the Daily Yougov of 2015 was trash, and British polling in general has a bad reputation for accuracy.TGOHF said:
Daily tracking polls were miles off in predicting the Uk election and the Brexit referendum.Speedy said:
Well according to my average daily tracking poll, the debate does seem to have boosted Hillary's lead by about 1% from 3 before the debate to 4 after.foxinsoxuk said:
He is good at calling elections though.Jobabob said:
A loathsome holocaust denier. He makes Trump look like a bleeding heart liberal.Pulpstar said:I see alot of Hillary love here today - anyway I checked with THE authority on these matters, and the sage of Crosby thinks it is
"All going to plan ^_~"
His successes have mostly come from the Right wing.
Some of the other stuff he posts is pretty dodgy though.
But how will Trump overcome a Hillary lead of 4% in 30 days ?
Especially since he is so bad at debates, and events like Riots and Terrorism boost Hillary intstead of Trump.
However I now use 8 tracking polls (only one of them British), so if one of them is trash it wouldn't affect the rest.0 -
Without being rude, I think my dog could have predicted an Obama win. No MCMC modelling required.Pulpstar said:
He predicted the Obama victory, if he thought Hillary was going to win then he'd have gone with that.FrancisUrquhart said:Re Rod and election predictions.
Despite having some shall we say very odd ideas about certain things...for UK elections, I have previously challenged on him on his approach and he was able to provide academic literature upon what he based his model on. Obviously we can argue about the methodology, what adjustments he was making etc, but it certainly wasn't pie in the sky stuff and proved correct for the past 2 GE.
However, I seemed to remember him saying that a similar approach wasn't applicable for US elections and I don't remember him ever giving any details about what his Trump prediction was based upon.
I am not doubting he would have said Hiliary if that is what he thought, my point was I have no idea upon what his Trump prediction was based. When he was banging on about swingback and Tories not getting a majority in 2010, I challenged his repeatedly on this and he was able to provide some good responses with academic literature to support it.
Nate Silver has been woeful at UK GEs, despite having a god like status in the US.0 -
Re Nissan:
Carlos is just being clever. There will probably never be a better time to blackmail the UK government into subsidising any capex you want to do in the next few years.0 -
''I didn't even know they where any daily tracking polls for Brexit, but I agree the Daily Yougov of 2015 was trash,''
It was still pored over by many respected posters on here who were openly talking about Labour/SNP coalitions up to the eve of the vote.0 -
I though the Qasqai was about to be replaced with the next gen hybrid, and they are deciding where to build itFF43 said:I think Nissan Sunderland is OK for the next few years. The Qashqai is selling like hotcakes and they won't want to jeopardise production. After that, Nissan will need tariff free access the EU or they will move production to any number of Renault plants (including in Morocco).
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I doubt he'll be alone: a bunch of companies will use this as a chance to extract money from HM Government. ("Well, you see, all this uncertainty... And you wouldn't want the publicity of us announcing the closure of our x factory, would you? Of course, with a £50m regional development grant, we might actually add some jobs...")MaxPB said:
My view, French CEO tries to get government subsidies. Shocking.rcs1000 said:Re Nissan:
Carlos is just being clever. There will probably never be a better time to blackmail the UK government into subsidising any capex you want to do in the next few years.0 -
Re Rod Crosby.
I find it strange that we have lots of people around who believe all sorts of peculiar things.
For instance, that Jezza has two brain cells to rub together, that England will win the next World Cup, that communism is a great way to run the world or that the LDs will sweep to victory in the next GE. There are conspiracy theorists a-plenty wherever you look with more imagination than sense.
We humour them in general, but certain other opinions are not allowed. Holocaust denial is bonkers enough to match any of them, but this one is the great Satan.
Illogical if nothing else - both the denial and the response.0 -
Equally the government will want to delay any move from Sunderland until after the next election.rcs1000 said:Re Nissan:
Carlos is just being clever. There will probably never be a better time to blackmail the UK government into subsidising any capex you want to do in the next few years.0 -
I expect there to be a cut in corporation tax to 15%.rcs1000 said:
I doubt he'll be alone: a bunch of companies will use this as a chance to extract money from HM Government. ("Well, you see, all this uncertainty... And you wouldn't want the publicity of us announcing the closure of our x factory, would you? Of course, with a £50m regional development grant, we might actually add some jobs...")MaxPB said:
My view, French CEO tries to get government subsidies. Shocking.rcs1000 said:Re Nissan:
Carlos is just being clever. There will probably never be a better time to blackmail the UK government into subsidising any capex you want to do in the next few years.0 -
Why was rod crosby banned?CD13 said:Re Rod Crosby.
I find it strange that we have lots of people around who believe all sorts of peculiar things.
For instance, that Jezza has two brain cells to rub together, that England will win the next World Cup, that communism is a great way to run the world or that the LDs will sweep to victory in the next GE. There are conspiracy theorists a-plenty wherever you look with more imagination than sense.
We humour them in general, but certain other opinions are not allowed. Holocaust denial is bonkers enough to match any of them, but this one is the great Satan.
Illogical if nothing else - both the denial and the response.0 -
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/missing-white-voters-could-elect-trump-but-first-they-need-to-register/
The 'Brexit effect' could sweep Trump to victory, but he isn't registering enough WWC to do so, so far. His crappy ground game is messing him up0 -
We are heading back to does he want actually win at this rate. No ground game, wont do debate prep etc etc.619 said:http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/missing-white-voters-could-elect-trump-but-first-they-need-to-register/
The 'Brexit effect' could sweep Trump to victory, but he isn't registering enough WWC to do so, so far. His crappy ground game is messing him up0 -
What net worth would you judge as wealthy?Sunil_Prasannan said:
I suggest that wealthy Europhile lawyers like TSE should personally foot the bill of our EUTheScreamingEagles said:
Well if he should get a deal then only Sunderland residents should pay for that deal.SouthamObserver said:
Why should I fund the mistakes of the Mackems? They were warned beforehand.protection moneymembership fees, until we do finally Brexit.
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Looking how easy it is to extract large amounts of money from May lately (Hinckley, Heathrow, HS2), there is a large chance she will surrender by Monday.rcs1000 said:Re Nissan:
Carlos is just being clever. There will probably never be a better time to blackmail the UK government into subsidising any capex you want to do in the next few years.
At least we know the PM is spineless.0 -
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Why was rod crosby banned?CD13 said:Re Rod Crosby.
I find it strange that we have lots of people around who believe all sorts of peculiar things.
For instance, that Jezza has two brain cells to rub together, that England will win the next World Cup, that communism is a great way to run the world or that the LDs will sweep to victory in the next GE. There are conspiracy theorists a-plenty wherever you look with more imagination than sense.
We humour them in general, but certain other opinions are not allowed. Holocaust denial is bonkers enough to match any of them, but this one is the great Satan.
Illogical if nothing else - both the denial and the response.0 -
Looking at how easy company CEO's can mismanage their company or steal from it (like Wells Fargo proved), I think it's cheaper and more efficient for the government to simply bribe the CEO's directy instead of giving subsidies to the companies.rcs1000 said:
I doubt he'll be alone: a bunch of companies will use this as a chance to extract money from HM Government. ("Well, you see, all this uncertainty... And you wouldn't want the publicity of us announcing the closure of our x factory, would you? Of course, with a £50m regional development grant, we might actually add some jobs...")MaxPB said:
My view, French CEO tries to get government subsidies. Shocking.rcs1000 said:Re Nissan:
Carlos is just being clever. There will probably never be a better time to blackmail the UK government into subsidising any capex you want to do in the next few years.0 -
And?TGOHF said:
He called the 2015 GE better than 99% of others.Jobabob said:
A loathsome holocaust denier. He makes Trump look like a bleeding heart liberal.Pulpstar said:I see alot of Hillary love here today - anyway I checked with THE authority on these matters, and the sage of Crosby thinks it is
"All going to plan ^_~"
Dorothea Puente was a good cook, I'm told.0 -
When does early voting start in most swing states? That is key – we have seen in both WH2012 and the Brexit referendum that having a decent lead during early voting time can be decisive.Speedy said:
Well according to my average daily tracking poll, the debate does seem to have boosted Hillary's lead by about 1% from 3 before the debate to 4 after.foxinsoxuk said:
He is good at calling elections though.Jobabob said:
A loathsome holocaust denier. He makes Trump look like a bleeding heart liberal.Pulpstar said:I see alot of Hillary love here today - anyway I checked with THE authority on these matters, and the sage of Crosby thinks it is
"All going to plan ^_~"
His successes have mostly come from the Right wing.
Some of the other stuff he posts is pretty dodgy though.
But how will Trump overcome a Hillary lead of 4% in 30 days ?
Especially since he is so bad at debates, and events like Riots and Terrorism boost Hillary intstead of Trump.0 -
£2 million Net assets imo is wealthy.TCPoliticalBetting said:
What net worth would you judge as wealthy?Sunil_Prasannan said:
I suggest that wealthy Europhile lawyers like TSE should personally foot the bill of our EUTheScreamingEagles said:
Well if he should get a deal then only Sunderland residents should pay for that deal.SouthamObserver said:
Why should I fund the mistakes of the Mackems? They were warned beforehand.protection moneymembership fees, until we do finally Brexit.0
