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The boundary changes to be announced tonight (and to the MP’s from England and Wales today) will see the first reduction in the number of seats in Wales since the Great Reform Act of 1832 and see Wales be reduced from forty seats to just twenty nine (it’s lowest number since the Great Reform Act) and will the be fifth set of boundary changes since true democracy (one elector, one…
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Cheers Mr Hayfield - Great work yet again.0
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Thanks Harry. Also, Anthony Wells of UKPR will probably release a spreadsheet very soon detailing how each new constituency would have voted on the new boundaries.0
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Why was Wales not truly democratic prior to 1950?0
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The BIG story of the day...
@janinegibson: Whaaaat? If this is true, then everyone associated with this deal has lost their mind. https://t.co/LPUI77Z6oq https://t.co/cHb8DwiMAO0 -
Some interesting data there Mr Hayfield.
Hillary just tweeted she is feeling better and like most of those who have been off sick, happy to get back to work and back on the trail!0 -
She was careful to avoid any typos on the final word.HYUFD said:Some interesting data there Mr Hayfield.
Hillary just tweeted she is feeling better and like most of those who have been off sick, happy to get back to work and back on the trail!0 -
The Borough and University seats were abolished.Ishmael_X said:Why was Wales not truly democratic prior to 1950?
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She has just tweeted "Thanks to everyone who’s reached out with well wishes! I’m feeling fine and getting better. -H"HYUFD said:Some interesting data there Mr Hayfield.
Hillary just tweeted she is feeling better and like most of those who have been off sick, happy to get back to work and back on the trail!
So the first 7 words of your post are accurate. Where are you getting the rest?0 -
Thank you! And @Alistair.foxinsoxuk said:
The Borough and University seats were abolished.Ishmael_X said:Why was Wales not truly democratic prior to 1950?
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Hmmwilliamglenn said:
She was careful to avoid any typos on the final word.HYUFD said:Some interesting data there Mr Hayfield.
Hillary just tweeted she is feeling better and like most of those who have been off sick, happy to get back to work and back on the trail!
Bill Clinton will be taking over for Hillary at her two LA fundraisers tomorrow and her Las Vegas campaign event Wednesday, says an aide0 -
During the AV campaign it was infuriating that people who were alive prior to 1950 were tearfully rending their garments at the sad end to Britain's proud, pure tradition of one man one vote as if it was some ancient thing given they'd been around when one man could have quite a few votes, some of them via STV.Ishmael_X said:
Thank you!foxinsoxuk said:
The Borough and University seats were abolished.Ishmael_X said:Why was Wales not truly democratic prior to 1950?
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Great work @HarryHayfield, you're going to have a busy few days coming up!0
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Over on twitter this is being compared to the privatisation of the NHS and British Rail. There is even a mock-up of Jeremy Corbyn sitting down in the GBBO tent.Scott_P said:The BIG story of the day...
@janinegibson: Whaaaat? If this is true, then everyone associated with this deal has lost their mind. https://t.co/LPUI77Z6oq https://t.co/cHb8DwiMAO
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"Donald Trump is leading Hillary Clinton by about 3 percentage points, according to a UPI/CVoter daily presidential tracking poll released Monday.
The online survey of more than 1,200 likely voters and nearly 600 others said 48.7 percent would support Trump if the election were held today, and 45.8 percent would support Clinton.
The polling organization said Clinton previously held a 2-point lead in the "Presidential Tracker 2016" survey, but Trump tightened the race on the last day data was collected.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-leads-clinton-by-3-points-in-latest-daily-tracking-poll/article/2601557?custom_click=rss0 -
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Sorting out the disgraceful over-representation of Welsh voters in parliament is one of the most urgent tasks facing the Boundary Commission, so the Lord be praised that (at last) it is happening - the fact that Wales goes from 40 (out of 650) to 29 (out of 600) seats shows just how abysmal the imbalance had become.0
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Problem is AFL-CIO has endorsed Hillary so their numbers are suspect.Alistair said:https://twitter.com/deep_beige/status/775319136725499904
Romney got 40℅0 -
Meanwhile speculation is growing about Hillary within her OWN party:
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Indeedwilliamglenn said:
She was careful to avoid any typos on the final word.HYUFD said:Some interesting data there Mr Hayfield.
Hillary just tweeted she is feeling better and like most of those who have been off sick, happy to get back to work and back on the trail!0 -
Her second tweet!Ishmael_X said:
She has just tweeted "Thanks to everyone who’s reached out with well wishes! I’m feeling fine and getting better. -H"HYUFD said:Some interesting data there Mr Hayfield.
Hillary just tweeted she is feeling better and like most of those who have been off sick, happy to get back to work and back on the trail!
So the first 7 words of your post are accurate. Where are you getting the rest?0 -
People are absolutely furious about this on my Twitter feed. Don't upset middle England, they'll destroy you in the politest way possible.SandraM said:
Over on twitter this is being compared to the privatisation of the NHS and British Rail. There is even a mock-up of Jeremy Corbyn sitting down in the GBBO tent.Scott_P said:The BIG story of the day...
@janinegibson: Whaaaat? If this is true, then everyone associated with this deal has lost their mind. https://t.co/LPUI77Z6oq https://t.co/cHb8DwiMAO0 -
Surely Labour are going to lose 7-8 seats in Wales alone? Ouch. Sub 200 beckons.Richard_Nabavi said:Sorting out the disgraceful over-representation of Welsh voters in parliament is one of the most urgent tasks facing the Boundary Commission, so the Lord be praised that (at last) it is happening - the fact that Wales goes from 40 (out of 650) to 29 (out of 600) seats shows just how abysmal the imbalance had become.
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Its not like its off to Sky, its only popping over to the other publicly owned tv network and freely available (as long as you have paid your telly tax).AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
People are absolutely furious about this on my Twitter feed. Don't upset middle England, they'll destroy you in the politest way possible.SandraM said:
Over on twitter this is being compared to the privatisation of the NHS and British Rail. There is even a mock-up of Jeremy Corbyn sitting down in the GBBO tent.Scott_P said:The BIG story of the day...
@janinegibson: Whaaaat? If this is true, then everyone associated with this deal has lost their mind. https://t.co/LPUI77Z6oq https://t.co/cHb8DwiMAO0 -
By some strange and I'm sure entirely innocent coincidence, the two areas where voters are heavily over-represented happen to be Labour strongholds - Wales and the North East.DavidL said:
Surely Labour are going to lose 7-8 seats in Wales alone? Ouch. Sub 200 beckons.Richard_Nabavi said:Sorting out the disgraceful over-representation of Welsh voters in parliament is one of the most urgent tasks facing the Boundary Commission, so the Lord be praised that (at last) it is happening - the fact that Wales goes from 40 (out of 650) to 29 (out of 600) seats shows just how abysmal the imbalance had become.
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Really pleased to see the BBC have lost Bake Off:
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Well at least they still have Top Gear....MP_SE said:Really pleased to see the BBC have lost Bake Off:
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The spectre of adverts (how common), the probable loss of at least one presenter (the production company didn't bother to consult them, and several have indicated they'd be for the off) and the sometimes dubious quality of other C4 productions have people in something of a tizzy.FrancisUrquhart said:
Its not like its off to Sky, its only popping over to the other publicly owned tv network and freely available (as long as you have paid your telly tax).AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
People are absolutely furious about this on my Twitter feed. Don't upset middle England, they'll destroy you in the politest way possible.SandraM said:
Over on twitter this is being compared to the privatisation of the NHS and British Rail. There is even a mock-up of Jeremy Corbyn sitting down in the GBBO tent.Scott_P said:The BIG story of the day...
@janinegibson: Whaaaat? If this is true, then everyone associated with this deal has lost their mind. https://t.co/LPUI77Z6oq https://t.co/cHb8DwiMAO0 -
Labour's problem is the contiguity of its seats. It will be hard to palm off losses onto other parties when there are substantial areas of Wales where Labour is relatively weak. It has similar problems in London and the north west.DavidL said:
Surely Labour are going to lose 7-8 seats in Wales alone? Ouch. Sub 200 beckons.Richard_Nabavi said:Sorting out the disgraceful over-representation of Welsh voters in parliament is one of the most urgent tasks facing the Boundary Commission, so the Lord be praised that (at last) it is happening - the fact that Wales goes from 40 (out of 650) to 29 (out of 600) seats shows just how abysmal the imbalance had become.
If Britain were less politically divided on geography, the impact on Labour would be less severe.0 -
Yes, the fact we had a Labour government for much of that time has nothing at all to do with the fact that we are operating on boundaries 20 years out of date. It will be infuriating if these boundaries are not corrected for the next election.Richard_Nabavi said:
By some strange and I'm sure entirely innocent coincidence, the two areas where voters are heavily over-represented happen to be Labour strongholds - Wales and the North East.DavidL said:
Surely Labour are going to lose 7-8 seats in Wales alone? Ouch. Sub 200 beckons.Richard_Nabavi said:Sorting out the disgraceful over-representation of Welsh voters in parliament is one of the most urgent tasks facing the Boundary Commission, so the Lord be praised that (at last) it is happening - the fact that Wales goes from 40 (out of 650) to 29 (out of 600) seats shows just how abysmal the imbalance had become.
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As ever, thanks Harry.
Off-topic:
Here's a rather awesome 3D representation of the interior of the Apollo 11 Lunar Command Module. Amazing detail.
http://3d.si.edu/apollo11cm/boxes/play-cm-ext-rc6-int-rc5/cm-interior.html
It might require a fairly powerful computer to run well ...
Linked to from Bezos's account. Guess that's another hint he's aiming for the moon.
With Elon Musk (SpaceX) hurling big rockets to Mars, and Jeff Bezos (Blue Origin) hurling big rockets to the Moon, it feels like we're in a space race again!0 -
Anthony Wells blogged the following the other night, concerning the abandoned 2013 review:DavidL said:
Surely Labour are going to lose 7-8 seats in Wales alone? Ouch. Sub 200 beckons.Richard_Nabavi said:Sorting out the disgraceful over-representation of Welsh voters in parliament is one of the most urgent tasks facing the Boundary Commission, so the Lord be praised that (at last) it is happening - the fact that Wales goes from 40 (out of 650) to 29 (out of 600) seats shows just how abysmal the imbalance had become.
"...we can work out what the party partisan impact would have been. If the boundaries had been in place at the last election the Conservatives would have won 9 fewer seats, Labour would have won 28 less, the Lib Dems only four. Overall the Conservatives would have won a much healthier majority of 44 seats."
The effect ought to be broadly similar this time around, too. Now all you have to do is start with those base numbers, and then factor in how many of the remaining seats which Labour notionally controls could be lost, if things carry on as they are...0 -
You need of some education as to what an engineer is. Engineers don't dismantle equipment they tell people what is wrong and others do the dissassembling. That is what a qualified Engineer does so your analogy as to what we are re-surgeons is correct. As an engineer I'll ascertain a fix for your problem and then get the technicians to carry out the necessary repairs. A big problem in this country is the failure to appreciate engineering is not fixing a broken piece of equipment, it is fixing something BEFORE it becomes a broken piece of equipment. And no, your theory is wrong so your conclusions fail at that point.Luckyguy1983 said:
I have a theory that 'expertise' founders upon matters that are simply too complex, with too many moving parts, for one person to comprehend fully. As an engineer, I'm sure you're a dab hand at dismantling a washing machine and re-assembling it, but I'm afraid I don't set any more store by your views on AGW than those of a greengrocer.Ally_B said:
AGW comments are akin to those of people who (used to) argue that smoking didn't really damage health. Once the balance of probabilities suggests that we are causing it then if you wait until you have unequivocal data then another x-million people die from that failure to act. You don't wait, you act. I'm an engineer, I don't wait for things to break before I fix them and I look for solutions once I realise there is a problem.
By the same token, I'd trust a surgeon to do keyhole on my knee, but not necessarily a doctor to tell me what's wrong with my body and what to do about it. Too much going on; too many different moving parts. It's really just guesswork.0 -
Christian May
EXCLUSIVE: Osborne plots Northern Powerhouse think tank https://t.co/m4IVDH4slr0 -
I expect a few Tory rebels from Wales re-the boundary changes. Apparently a few in the North West are also unhappy.0
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Do we really need yet another think tank?PlatoSaid said:Christian May
EXCLUSIVE: Osborne plots Northern Powerhouse think tank https://t.co/m4IVDH4slr0 -
The Times front page reports that David Cameron is to work on his autobiography. That will be a cross for Theresa May to bear, I'm sure.0
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Maybe he'll run for Mayor of Manchester.PlatoSaid said:Christian May
EXCLUSIVE: Osborne plots Northern Powerhouse think tank https://t.co/m4IVDH4slr
Guffaw.0 -
I wonder what he will say about Lord Ashcroft?AlastairMeeks said:The Times front page reports that David Cameron is to work on his autobiography. That will be a cross for Theresa May to bear, I'm sure.
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If he is astute, he will not mention him once. That would annoy his lordship far more than any broadside.FrancisUrquhart said:
I wonder what he will say about Lord Ashcroft?AlastairMeeks said:The Times front page reports that David Cameron is to work on his autobiography. That will be a cross for Theresa May to bear, I'm sure.
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Better still, mention him in a footnote about the inaccuracies of polling.AlastairMeeks said:
If he is astute, he will not mention him once. That would annoy his lordship far more than any broadside.FrancisUrquhart said:
I wonder what he will say about Lord Ashcroft?AlastairMeeks said:The Times front page reports that David Cameron is to work on his autobiography. That will be a cross for Theresa May to bear, I'm sure.
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Winston Churchill had to wait until he was 65 to become prime minister. Cameron is out of politics before the age of 50.0
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Cameron departing is no surprise at all, but Osborne's next moves are more interesting. I expect he'll lie low and bide his time, waiting for his enemies (and, sadly, Theresa May has decided to become one of those) to screw up.0
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Awesome, Mr J., So many buttons and switches I wonder how the remembered which was which.JosiasJessop said:As ever, thanks Harry.
Off-topic:
Here's a rather awesome 3D representation of the interior of the Apollo 11 Lunar Command Module. Amazing detail.
http://3d.si.edu/apollo11cm/boxes/play-cm-ext-rc6-int-rc5/cm-interior.html
It might require a fairly powerful computer to run well ...
Linked to from Bezos's account. Guess that's another hint he's aiming for the moon.
With Elon Musk (SpaceX) hurling big rockets to Mars, and Jeff Bezos (Blue Origin) hurling big rockets to the Moon, it feels like we're in a space race again!0 -
Presumably the only thing that can now prevent this is a rebellion on the Government side? I'm currently working on the assumption that the net effect of the review will wipe out fewer Tory safe seats than the total number of likely retirees, so all existing MPs can be shuffled about and kept happy. It would certainly be a huge act of self-harm if the Conservatives didn't get the reforms through.DavidL said:
Yes, the fact we had a Labour government for much of that time has nothing at all to do with the fact that we are operating on boundaries 20 years out of date. It will be infuriating if these boundaries are not corrected for the next election.Richard_Nabavi said:
By some strange and I'm sure entirely innocent coincidence, the two areas where voters are heavily over-represented happen to be Labour strongholds - Wales and the North East.DavidL said:
Surely Labour are going to lose 7-8 seats in Wales alone? Ouch. Sub 200 beckons.Richard_Nabavi said:Sorting out the disgraceful over-representation of Welsh voters in parliament is one of the most urgent tasks facing the Boundary Commission, so the Lord be praised that (at last) it is happening - the fact that Wales goes from 40 (out of 650) to 29 (out of 600) seats shows just how abysmal the imbalance had become.
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Quite. We're not quite two cows and a three shepherds or whatever Old Sarum was, but it's bonkers and a manifest injustice. And I speak as one whose vote value is being (rightly) reduced.DavidL said:
Yes, the fact we had a Labour government for much of that time has nothing at all to do with the fact that we are operating on boundaries 20 years out of date. It will be infuriating if these boundaries are not corrected for the next election.Richard_Nabavi said:
By some strange and I'm sure entirely innocent coincidence, the two areas where voters are heavily over-represented happen to be Labour strongholds - Wales and the North East.DavidL said:
Surely Labour are going to lose 7-8 seats in Wales alone? Ouch. Sub 200 beckons.Richard_Nabavi said:Sorting out the disgraceful over-representation of Welsh voters in parliament is one of the most urgent tasks facing the Boundary Commission, so the Lord be praised that (at last) it is happening - the fact that Wales goes from 40 (out of 650) to 29 (out of 600) seats shows just how abysmal the imbalance had become.
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No.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do we really need yet another think tank?PlatoSaid said:Christian May
EXCLUSIVE: Osborne plots Northern Powerhouse think tank https://t.co/m4IVDH4slr
There are more than enough think tanks.0 -
It is a little early to judge. At 48 Winston Churchill was "without an office, without a seat, without a party and without an appendix". Who knows what the future will bring for David Cameron?AndyJS said:Winston Churchill had to wait until he was 65 to become prime minister. Cameron is out of politics before the age of 50.
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Yup, I was thinking exactly the same thing. Say "engineer" in Germany or France, and people will think of someone who, say, designs engine components or bridge structures. Say "engineer" in the UK, and the image is of someone who can fix a washing machine or mend a lawnmower. Technical expertise is very undervalued here.Ally_B said:
You need of some education as to what an engineer is. Engineers don't dismantle equipment they tell people what is wrong and others do the dissassembling. That is what a qualified Engineer does so your analogy as to what we are re-surgeons is correct. As an engineer I'll ascertain a fix for your problem and then get the technicians to carry out the necessary repairs. A big problem in this country is the failure to appreciate engineering is not fixing a broken piece of equipment, it is fixing something BEFORE it becomes a broken piece of equipment. And no, your theory is wrong so your conclusions fail at that point.Luckyguy1983 said:
I have a theory that 'expertise' founders upon matters that are simply too complex, with too many moving parts, for one person to comprehend fully. As an engineer, I'm sure you're a dab hand at dismantling a washing machine and re-assembling it, but I'm afraid I don't set any more store by your views on AGW than those of a greengrocer.Ally_B said:
AGW comments are akin to those of people who (used to) argue that smoking didn't really damage health. Once the balance of probabilities suggests that we are causing it then if you wait until you have unequivocal data then another x-million people die from that failure to act. You don't wait, you act. I'm an engineer, I don't wait for things to break before I fix them and I look for solutions once I realise there is a problem.
By the same token, I'd trust a surgeon to do keyhole on my knee, but not necessarily a doctor to tell me what's wrong with my body and what to do about it. Too much going on; too many different moving parts. It's really just guesswork.0 -
Many of them short on the thinking...MP_SE said:
No.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do we really need yet another think tank?PlatoSaid said:Christian May
EXCLUSIVE: Osborne plots Northern Powerhouse think tank https://t.co/m4IVDH4slr
There are more than enough think tanks.0 -
I think you'll find she has become his leader.Richard_Nabavi said:Cameron departing is no surprise at all, but Osborne's next moves are more interesting. I expect he'll lie low and bide his time, waiting for his enemies (and, sadly, Theresa May has decided to become one of those) to screw up.
If Osborne chooses to take the rebukes he was due for divisive approach to both campaigning during the Euro Ref and the last budget badly, that is his own problem.
May is, rightly, far more popular than Osborne.0 -
Yeah, and then what? Who on earth is going to want him back?Richard_Nabavi said:Cameron departing is no surprise at all, but Osborne's next moves are more interesting. I expect he'll lie low and bide his time, waiting for his enemies (and, sadly, Theresa May has decided to become one of those) to screw up.
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Say "engineer" in Germany or France, and people will think of someone who, say, designs engine components or bridge structures....or potential political leader...FeersumEnjineeya said:
Yup, I was thinking exactly the same thing. Say "engineer" in Germany or France, and people will think of someone who, say, designs engine components or bridge structures. Say "engineer" in the UK, and the image is of someone who can fix a washing machine or mend a lawnmower. Technical expertise is very undervalued here.Ally_B said:
You need of some education as to what an engineer is. Engineers don't dismantle equipment they tell people what is wrong and others do the dissassembling. That is what a qualified Engineer does so your analogy as to what we are re-surgeons is correct. As an engineer I'll ascertain a fix for your problem and then get the technicians to carry out the necessary repairs. A big problem in this country is the failure to appreciate engineering is not fixing a broken piece of equipment, it is fixing something BEFORE it becomes a broken piece of equipment. And no, your theory is wrong so your conclusions fail at that point.Luckyguy1983 said:
I have a theory that 'expertise' founders upon matters that are simply too complex, with too many moving parts, for one person to comprehend fully. As an engineer, I'm sure you're a dab hand at dismantling a washing machine and re-assembling it, but I'm afraid I don't set any more store by your views on AGW than those of a greengrocer.Ally_B said:
AGW comments are akin to those of people who (used to) argue that smoking didn't really damage health. Once the balance of probabilities suggests that we are causing it then if you wait until you have unequivocal data then another x-million people die from that failure to act. You don't wait, you act. I'm an engineer, I don't wait for things to break before I fix them and I look for solutions once I realise there is a problem.
By the same token, I'd trust a surgeon to do keyhole on my knee, but not necessarily a doctor to tell me what's wrong with my body and what to do about it. Too much going on; too many different moving parts. It's really just guesswork.0 -
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For now. But her gratuitously rude treatment of one of the greatest post-war Chancellors - who more than anyone was responsible for the fact that we have a Conservative government in the first place - was a notable miscalculation and entirely unnecessary.Mortimer said:May is, rightly, far more popular than Osborne.
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Tomorrow could be the hottest September day since 31 degrees was recorded in Gillingham, Kent in 1973.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/sep/12/hottest-september-day-since-1973-weather-forecast-uk0 -
Hahaha.Richard_Nabavi said:
For now. But her gratuitously rude treatment of one of the greatest post-war Chancellors - who more than anyone was responsible for the fact that we have a Conservative government in the first place - was a notable miscalculation and entirely unnecessary.Mortimer said:May is, rightly, far more popular than Osborne.
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Guaridan TV..I mean Newsnight...wrong as the Guardian....just claimed Top Gear had left the BBC. I know it was shit, but it most definitely still on BBC.0
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Praise the Lord! It's a miracle I tell yer, a miracle!HYUFD said:Some interesting data there Mr Hayfield.
Hillary just tweeted she is feeling better and like most of those who have been off sick, happy to get back to work and back on the trail!0 -
If we see Cameron back in government I'll buy you a very nice bottle of champagne.AlastairMeeks said:
It is a little early to judge. At 48 Winston Churchill was "without an office, without a seat, without a party and without an appendix". Who knows what the future will bring for David Cameron?AndyJS said:Winston Churchill had to wait until he was 65 to become prime minister. Cameron is out of politics before the age of 50.
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Let's wait and see. Who knows how the whirligig of time will spin? The most likely outcome is that 2010-2016 will be seen as the golden age compared with what came before or after, but, whatever happens, Theresa May would have been very well advised to remember the dictum of one of her most illustrious predecessors:HurstLlama said:Yeah, and then what? Who on earth is going to want him back?
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/winstonchu161541.html0 -
All those backbench Tory MPs holding his Job IOU's?HurstLlama said:
Yeah, and then what? Who on earth is going to want him back?Richard_Nabavi said:Cameron departing is no surprise at all, but Osborne's next moves are more interesting. I expect he'll lie low and bide his time, waiting for his enemies (and, sadly, Theresa May has decided to become one of those) to screw up.
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When someone says to me "think tank", I imagine an armoured tracked vehicle with a gun on top.MP_SE said:
No.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do we really need yet another think tank?PlatoSaid said:Christian May
EXCLUSIVE: Osborne plots Northern Powerhouse think tank https://t.co/m4IVDH4slr
There are more than enough think tanks.0 -
If think tanks were more popular in Heath's day, do you think he would have founded one?MarqueeMark said:
When someone says to me "think tank", I imagine an armoured tracked vehicle with a gun on top.MP_SE said:
No.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do we really need yet another think tank?PlatoSaid said:Christian May
EXCLUSIVE: Osborne plots Northern Powerhouse think tank https://t.co/m4IVDH4slr
There are more than enough think tanks.
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Keep Hillary indoors then.AndyJS said:O/T:
Tomorrow could be the hottest September day since 31 degrees was recorded in Gillingham, Kent in 1973.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/sep/12/hottest-september-day-since-1973-weather-forecast-uk
Or is she cured? I lose track....0 -
I wasn't aware she was rude to Gordon.Richard_Nabavi said:
For now. But her gratuitously rude treatment of one of the greatest post-war Chancellors - who more than anyone was responsible for the fact that we have a Conservative government in the first place - was a notable miscalculation and entirely unnecessary.Mortimer said:May is, rightly, far more popular than Osborne.
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I didn't know Ken Clarke went by a nick name!Jonathan said:
I wasn't aware she was rude to Gordon.Richard_Nabavi said:
For now. But her gratuitously rude treatment of one of the greatest post-war Chancellors - who more than anyone was responsible for the fact that we have a Conservative government in the first place - was a notable miscalculation and entirely unnecessary.Mortimer said:May is, rightly, far more popular than Osborne.
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I see your mistake. Yes, I suppose Gordon Brown was more responsible than anyone for the fact that we have a Conservative government, but that's not quite what I meant.Jonathan said:
I wasn't aware she was rude to Gordon.Richard_Nabavi said:
For now. But her gratuitously rude treatment of one of the greatest post-war Chancellors - who more than anyone was responsible for the fact that we have a Conservative government in the first place - was a notable miscalculation and entirely unnecessary.Mortimer said:May is, rightly, far more popular than Osborne.
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I like to imagine a large goldfish bowl on tracks with 3 or 4 people squashed insideMarqueeMark said:
When someone says to me "think tank", I imagine an armoured tracked vehicle with a gun on top.MP_SE said:
No.FrancisUrquhart said:
Do we really need yet another think tank?PlatoSaid said:Christian May
EXCLUSIVE: Osborne plots Northern Powerhouse think tank https://t.co/m4IVDH4slr
There are more than enough think tanks.0 -
There are 3 IPSOS polls - Clinton +7 then +5 then +2PlatoSaid said:"Donald Trump is leading Hillary Clinton by about 3 percentage points, according to a UPI/CVoter daily presidential tracking poll released Monday.
The online survey of more than 1,200 likely voters and nearly 600 others said 48.7 percent would support Trump if the election were held today, and 45.8 percent would support Clinton.
The polling organization said Clinton previously held a 2-point lead in the "Presidential Tracker 2016" survey, but Trump tightened the race on the last day data was collected.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-leads-clinton-by-3-points-in-latest-daily-tracking-poll/article/2601557?custom_click=rss
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/JMC_FL_Sept_2016.pdf is the poll result for Florida.0 -
More for the Lords and change the balance in favour of the conservatives !!justin124 said:I expect a few Tory rebels from Wales re-the boundary changes. Apparently a few in the North West are also unhappy.
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Crickey...Kristy Walk comparing Clinton health issues to Paralympics...0
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ABC
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Has JackW commented since Hillary's collapse?0
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Maybe Bake Off had to move to C4 because the presenters weren't getting enough dough.0
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"Love Productions set a price tag of £20million for the rights of the series - but the BBC only offered £15million which also include the rights to its sister show An Extra Slice."
I am sure they could find £5 million...Yentob probably cost the BBC a good chunk of that a year.0 -
Did Newsnight really get through the whole show with only a mention of Cameron in the closing credits?
I thought Newnsight was a serious political show.0 -
Sometimes they like to ignore the main story of the day.FrancisUrquhart said:Did Newsnight really get through with only a mention of Cameron in the closing credits? I thought Newnsight was a serious political show.
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"The polling organization said Clinton previously held a 2-point lead in the "Presidential Tracker 2016" survey, but Trump tightened the race on the last day data was collected"
If trump changed a 2 point deficit for 5 days to a 2.8% lead IN THE LAST DAY (11th September) - that is massive.0 -
A police chief called for female police officers to be allowed to wear the full burqa a few days ago. Apparently precisely zero officers had actually requested this.PlatoSaid said:0 -
Classic, I'm offended / standing up for your beliefs on your behalf even though I haven't asked you what you think....AndyJS said:
A police chief called for female police officers to be allowed to wear the full burqa a few days ago. Apparently precisely zero officers had actually requested this.PlatoSaid said:0 -
What a magnificent thread header from Mr Hayfield. Wow - well done.0
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She SAYS she's feeling a lot better.MarqueeMark said:
Keep Hillary indoors then.AndyJS said:O/T:
Tomorrow could be the hottest September day since 31 degrees was recorded in Gillingham, Kent in 1973.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/sep/12/hottest-september-day-since-1973-weather-forecast-uk
Or is she cured? I lose track....0 -
Oliver D'Arcy
NY Post: Clinton team avoided ER to conceal details of her medical treatment https://t.co/qJIBZ7oAAk https://t.co/nxPusUR8220 -
Has anyone else got a sense of deja vu?
https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/775340330820534273
Just a month ago everybody talked and even complained that Trump should drop out, now everyone has an issue with Hillary, even her staff.
Just replace the name Trump with Hillary on reports from a month ago and they would be very similar.0 -
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I don't know whether there are any Fifteen To One fans on PB, but if there are here's the Grand Final from Series 8 on Friday 20th December 1991, the first series where in the final round all 40 questions were on the buzzer:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6iEAOBMJyQ
And this is the Grand Final from Series 22 on Friday 10th April 1998:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qghPvvum1pg0 -
I seemed to remember a guy winning two series of that show with incredible scores because in the final 3 stage of the qualifier and the final, he basically went buzzer, question, question, question, question, question, question, question, question....AndyJS said:O/T:
I don't know whether there are any Fifteen To One fans on PB, but if there are here's the Grand Final from Series 8 on Friday 20th December 1991, the first series where in the final round all 40 questions were on the buzzer:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6iEAOBMJyQ
And this is the Grand Final from Series 22 on Friday 10th April 1998:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qghPvvum1pg0 -
And we're off. The new boundaries for England are out. I'll probably be up all night working on counter-proposals...
http://boundarycommissionforengland.independent.gov.uk/2018-review/ip-england/0 -
Boundary review is now available, but the site seems to be down:
http://boundarycommissionforengland.independent.gov.uk/2018-review/ip-england/0 -
I can't get it to work.AndyJS said:Boundary review is now available, but the site seems to be down:
http://boundarycommissionforengland.independent.gov.uk/2018-review/ip-england/0 -
I have been having a nose at my part of the world already. They have bolted a lump of Cambridgeshire onto NE Herts, and not changed the constituency name, damn 'em! Definitely cause for a green ink e-mail.SirBenjamin said:And we're off. The new boundaries for England are out. I'll probably be up all night working on counter-proposals...
http://boundarycommissionforengland.independent.gov.uk/2018-review/ip-england/0 -
Link to the new constituencies in spreadsheet form:
http://boundarycommissionforengland.independent.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/IP_constituencies_changes.xlsx0 -
Birmingham constituencies (9):
Birmingham Brandwood BC
Billesley
Brandwood
Kings Norton
Springfield
Birmingham Edgbaston BC
Edgbaston
Harborne
Quinton
Sparkbrook
Abbey
Birmingham Erdington BC
Erdington
Kingstanding
Stockland Green
Oscott
Pheasey Park Farm
Birmingham Hodge Hill BC
Bordesley Green
Hodge Hill
Shard End
Washwood Heath
Birmingham Ladywood BC
Tyburn
Ladywood
Nechells
Soho
Soho and Victoria
Birmingham Northfield BC
Moseley and Kings Heath
Longbridge
Northfield
Bournville
Birmingham Perry Barr BC
Aston
Handsworth Wood
Lozells and East Handsworth
Perry Barr
Newton
Birmingham Selly Oak and Halesowen BC
Bartley Green
Weoley
Selly Oak
Belle Vale
Halesowen North
Halesowen South
Birmingham Yardley BC
Hall Green
Acocks Green
South Yardley
Stechford and Yardley North0 -
Chelmsley Wood and Solihull North BC
Sheldon
Bickenhill
Castle Bromwich
Chelmsley Wood
Kingshurst and Fordbridge
Smith's Wood
Elmdon
Lyndon0 -
Big changes to Broxtowe...0
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Details from London review confirm loss of six seats, and a single Islington seat derived primarily from that of Emily Thornberry, i.e. Corbyn's Islington North is broken up. Reports in press have suggested Poplar and Limehouse as a likely new base for Corbyn, as the sitting MP is thought likely to retire.
Eastern England loses only one seat, in Essex. As per previous suggestions, this appears to include a substantial redrawing of Clacton, to make a new Harwich and Clacton seat. This is thought to be very negative for Douglas Carswell's chances of staying on after 2020.0 -
Thought to be by who? Anyway, that's a re-creation of the Harwich seat which always existed before 2010. I think Carswell would have a good chance of holding it, particularly if Bernard Jenkin is standing elsewhere.Black_Rook said:Details from London review confirm loss of six seats, and a single Islington seat derived primarily from that of Emily Thornberry, i.e. Corbyn's Islington North is broken up. Reports in press have suggested Poplar and Limehouse as a likely new base for Corbyn, as the sitting MP is thought likely to retire.
Eastern England loses only one seat, in Essex. As per previous suggestions, this appears to include a substantial redrawing of Clacton, to make a new Harwich and Clacton seat. This is thought to be very negative for Douglas Carswell's chances of staying on after 2020.0
