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Actually I've decided to go with the Kipper one, I've had a brainwave on how to improve the Strictly one.rottenborough said:
Strictly, let's get some thoughts on a Balls win.TheScreamingEagles said:So do you want my Strictly thread or do you want my trolling the Kippers thread next?
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I have Jive Bunny's greatest hits cd and will email the MP3s to anyone who wants them.Jonathan said:Jeremy Corbyn is the Jive Bunny of British politics.
People should not miss out on the joy of Jive Bunny0 -
F1: Auto Motor und Sport are confirming that Hamilton will take two sets of parts in Spa giving him a 60 place grid penalty. Now guaranteed to start from the back, maybe even the pit lane.
If Hamilton is able to limit the damage and get into the top 5 then he has to be favourite for the title. Scott's 100/1 on Alonso or Button making the podium looks like a decent shout as well with Hamilton starting from the back. If one of the Ferraris has a bad day or one of the Bulls crashes then it Alonso or Button could pounce with their new PU.0 -
People should not miss out on the joy of Jive Bunny
They certainly annoyed a lot of right on musos at the time, and that's a big plus.0 -
Yeah but what price confidentiality if her surgeries are listened into?TheScreamingEagles said:This is why I think Breitbart are a vile organisation, (It should be remembered her friend was shot and killed)
Crybaby MP Installs ‘Panic Room’ to Protect Her from Mean Words on the Internet
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/08/24/british-mp-installs-panic-room-following-online-criticism/
“There is a panic room being fitted in my office, I now walk around with an alarm system that means people can listen to conversations,” said Phillips.
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This is painful and very amusing thread
Sunny Hundal
Astonishing thread on contradictory excuses Corbyn's team gave on #traingate. God help us if they face a real crisis https://t.co/ovXt6Faiwd
Tom Hamilton
A few tweets follow to clear up what *really* happened on that train - in the Jeremy Corbyn campaign's own words.0 -
''Actually I've decided to go with the Kipper one, I've had a brainwave on how to improve the Strictly one. ''
I worked with one of the contestants for a couple of years, my advice would be not to bet on her. Great person, but no athlete.0 -
...I rather think you'd find that most of the Portland clients on this board - including Robert Smithson, no less - are Leavers.taffys said:''How common is that? Flights from those places to the UK are hardly free.''
I believe there are gangs in places such as Nigeria that organise it all. Its a business. The staff don;t give a f8ck of course. Imagine you are a local person whose family paid into the NHS for generations, however.
Of course, this matters not to the 'Portland class'. That is why they lost.0 -
Mr JS,
Floating on your back and keeping your mouth out of the water will keep you alive in warm water, if you don't panic. Not so certain in UK seas where hypothermia is a risk, even in summer.
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https://twitter.com/thhamilton/status/768725387501244417PlatoSaid said:This is painful and very amusing thread
Sunny Hundal
Astonishing thread on contradictory excuses Corbyn's team gave on #traingate. God help us if they face a real crisis https://t.co/ovXt6Faiwd
Tom Hamilton
A few tweets follow to clear up what *really* happened on that train - in the Jeremy Corbyn campaign's own words.
This excuse actually comes out of Jezza's own mouth....lying about a lie about a lie.
https://youtu.be/KIAjV9q7c2M?t=1m6s
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Ms Vance. Thanks for the link to that excellent blog.CarlottaVance said:And to get the Nats' blood pressure up:
http://chokkablog.blogspot.co.id/2016/08/gers-story-told-through-graphs.html
MI7 have done a great job persuading everyone there's no such thing as Whisky export duty.....
Interesting to see that the SNP is also in denial about the terms on which it could become a member of the EU. Insisting that Scotland could run a 9% deficit as a member because the UK did in 2009 misses the point that Scotland would have to reapply and therefore would be a member under different conditions than is/was the UK, so would not be permitted to run deficits over 3% without explicit EU permission.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-371850000 -
TSE = TORY!0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoi5sVsJqCYTheScreamingEagles said:
I have Jive Bunny's greatest hits cd and will email the MP3s to anyone who wants them.Jonathan said:Jeremy Corbyn is the Jive Bunny of British politics.
People should not miss out on the joy of Jive Bunny0 -
You called that one right a few weeks ago, that Lewis could take two whole PUs in one race and start from the back with no further penalty. Good call!MaxPB said:F1: Auto Motor und Sport are confirming that Hamilton will take two sets of parts in Spa giving him a 60 place grid penalty. Now guaranteed to start from the back, maybe even the pit lane.
If Hamilton is able to limit the damage and get into the top 5 then he has to be favourite for the title. Scott's 100/1 on Alonso or Button making the podium looks like a decent shout as well with Hamilton starting from the back. If one of the Ferraris has a bad day or one of the Bulls crashes then it Alonso or Button could pounce with their new PU.0 -
This thesis, with which I have a fair degree of sympathy, does beg the question of who will be the other lot at that point in time. It may not be Labour.kle4 said:
On the basis that at some point a government will so old and tired the other lot will get another go, a premise in this country at least I generally agree with, I'm curious if you feel Blair and did not need to become a Tory tribute act to win in 1997? And I'm curious what Nick p feels about that government being called so, given he was in it and yet is also a Corbynite. Come to that, does Corbyn think it was a Tory tribute act, in which case why didn't he rebel even more!Concanvasser said:TSE I think you are being unduly harsh on Jez and certainly too pessimistic about the prospects of Labour in the medium term.
Yes Jez will almost certainly lead Labour to a reasonably heavy defeat at the next election (probably in 2020). However Labour were almost certain to lose it convincingly anyway, given their performance in 2015 and the effects of the boundary review.
What Jez HAS achieved is to put a whole raft of proper Labour polices; like Public Ownership of the railways, back on the national negotiating table.
Everything is cyclical in the end. At some stage, probably in the mid 2020's but possibly earlier, the public will decide to 'give the other lot a go' . When Labour does come to take its turn, Jez will have ensured it can take office as a proper Labour government and not the sort of Tory tribute act we saw in 1997.0 -
Out of pocket it really hurts.rcs1000 said:
My wife had our children at the Portland, and it was as civilized an experience as childbirth is ever likely to be. The wine list was superb.Pulpstar said:
Whats so good about popping a sprog in England specifically ?rcs1000 said:
Not really. But I think those coming from the Middle East book their C section date, and then a hotel for the month beforehand.Pulpstar said:
Is flying whilst almost due advisable ?rcs1000 said:
The numbers for Westminster and Kensington & Chelsea are skewed by the big private maternity hospitals (The Portland, etc.). People actually fly into the UK to have their baby at the Portland or at St John & St Elizabeth.PlatoSaid said:ONS
5 areas in London have over 50% residents born outside the UK https://t.co/DCR8IBnAaq
Does the baby acquire "London rights"
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It's why I will never insure with Allianz - my wife was midway through the process with Portland and Allianz stopped coverage (or rather offered a continuation policy that explicitly excluded the treatment we had paid for and were receiving). Utterly unethical.0 -
Comedies were better then and there's a lot more dross around now, but TV overall is far superior now.Jonathan said:
1970s TV was better, hence the lower birthrate. The govt need to increase the licence fee.glw said:
It's closer to 500k a year right now. We need to build a new Birmingham worth of everything every two years just to stand still, never mind build enough to make up for the decades we have not met targets.AndyJS said:One of my favourite statistics is that the population of the UK increased by only 650,000 during the 1970s. That's about two years' worth of growth these days.
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Remember that as a teenager. First people to score a #1 hit without writing a note or singing a lyric. Also Megabass from the same era, mixing contemporary tunes like a compilation album in five minutes. Never mind that everyone gave permission and got paid, certain sections of the music industry went bananas!taffys said:People should not miss out on the joy of Jive Bunny
They certainly annoyed a lot of right on musos at the time, and that's a big plus.0 -
You can't bet your life on private insurance.Charles said:
Out of pocket it really hurts.rcs1000 said:
My wife had our children at the Portland, and it was as civilized an experience as childbirth is ever likely to be. The wine list was superb.Pulpstar said:
Whats so good about popping a sprog in England specifically ?rcs1000 said:
Not really. But I think those coming from the Middle East book their C section date, and then a hotel for the month beforehand.Pulpstar said:
Is flying whilst almost due advisable ?rcs1000 said:
The numbers for Westminster and Kensington & Chelsea are skewed by the big private maternity hospitals (The Portland, etc.). People actually fly into the UK to have their baby at the Portland or at St John & St Elizabeth.PlatoSaid said:ONS
5 areas in London have over 50% residents born outside the UK https://t.co/DCR8IBnAaq
Does the baby acquire "London rights" ?
It's why I will never insure with Allianz - my wife was midway through the process with Portland and Allianz stopped coverage (or rather offered a continuation policy that explicitly excluded the treatment we had paid for and were receiving). Utterly unethical.0 -
Comedy has gone to utter shit in the last 20 years. Drama OTOH has been incredible.kle4 said:
Comedies were better then and there's a lot more dross around now, but TV overall is far superior now.Jonathan said:
1970s TV was better, hence the lower birthrate. The govt need to increase the licence fee.glw said:
It's closer to 500k a year right now. We need to build a new Birmingham worth of everything every two years just to stand still, never mind build enough to make up for the decades we have not met targets.AndyJS said:One of my favourite statistics is that the population of the UK increased by only 650,000 during the 1970s. That's about two years' worth of growth these days.
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I see a few defenders popping up with the same lame excuses like that people often do need to stand and that should be the scandal...but which is swiftly put down with the Inarguable point that you don't need to spin the truth in order to make that point.PlatoSaid said:This is painful and very amusing thread
Sunny Hundal
Astonishing thread on contradictory excuses Corbyn's team gave on #traingate. God help us if they face a real crisis https://t.co/ovXt6Faiwd
Tom Hamilton
A few tweets follow to clear up what *really* happened on that train - in the Jeremy Corbyn campaign's own words.
It's fun, but I feel Traingate has had its day, carrying on much longer will just make me sad that some either overblow it, or insistently refuse to accept that the man spun a story to make himself look good, despite the evidence and contradictions.
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The right to UK citizenship by virtue of birth in the UK was rescinded back in the 1980s.MaxPB said:
Only if at least one of the parents is a British citizen. Otherwise the baby doesn't qualify and they will be shipped off home. I believe the reason for those letters is because the NHS is free at thr point of use and on Africa medical bills can be pretty high. They come here have the baby and then go back to Africa. We don't even stop them from leaving because the calculation is made that the court fees and accommodation costs will be higher and the chance of recovery is poor. With HIV positive women the chance of the baby contracting it during childbirth is also much lower in the UK than in Africa.Sandpit said:
AIUI a baby born in the UK still gets a British passport for himself, even if not for his parents.MaxPB said:
We don't have anchor babies in the UK.Sandpit said:
British citizenship is a pretty big draw if you're from the Mid East or Africa.Pulpstar said:
Whats so good about popping a sprog in England specifically ?rcs1000 said:
Not really. But I think those coming from the Middle East book their C section date, and then a hotel for the month beforehand.Pulpstar said:
Is flying whilst almost due advisable ?rcs1000 said:
The numbers for Westminster and Kensington & Chelsea are skewed by the big private maternity hospitals (The Portland, etc.). People actually fly into the UK to have their baby at the Portland or at St John & St Elizabeth.PlatoSaid said:ONS
5 areas in London have over 50% residents born outside the UK https://t.co/DCR8IBnAaq
Does the baby acquire "London rights" ?
At the bottom end of the market the Africans get a letter from their 'doctor' saying they're 25 weeks and fit to travel, when they're actually 36 weeks.
The NHS needs to start refusing treatment to foreign nationals until they have paid in advance for all of their costs. It seems harsh, but it is the NHS, not the IHS.0 -
kle4 said:
Comedies were better then and there's a lot more dross around now, but TV overall is far superior now.Jonathan said:
1970s TV was better, hence the lower birthrate. The govt need to increase the licence fee.glw said:
It's closer to 500k a year right now. We need to build a new Birmingham worth of everything every two years just to stand still, never mind build enough to make up for the decades we have not met targets.AndyJS said:One of my favourite statistics is that the population of the UK increased by only 650,000 during the 1970s. That's about two years' worth of growth these days.
Indeed. As we're just pas the olympics is it like long jump and gymnastics I wonder - the record for the former has not moved much in decades and the jumpers now get nowhere near it, buy someone told me they saw comparisons of modern gymnastics with stuff from decades ago and it was like watching amateurs prance about with arthritis in comparison.Pulpstar said:
Comedy has gone to utter shit in the last 20 years. Drama OTOH has been incredible.kle4 said:
Comedies were better then and there's a lot more dross around now, but TV overall is far superior now.Jonathan said:
1970s TV was better, hence the lower birthrate. The govt need to increase the licence fee.glw said:
It's closer to 500k a year right now. We need to build a new Birmingham worth of everything every two years just to stand still, never mind build enough to make up for the decades we have not met targets.AndyJS said:One of my favourite statistics is that the population of the UK increased by only 650,000 during the 1970s. That's about two years' worth of growth these days.
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No but when you pay £300 per month for a policy that includes materity cover for the Portland you expect to receive it.Jonathan said:
You can't bet your life on private insurance.Charles said:
Out of pocket it really hurts.rcs1000 said:
My wife had our children at the Portland, and it was as civilized an experience as childbirth is ever likely to be. The wine list was superb.Pulpstar said:
Whats so good about popping a sprog in England specifically ?rcs1000 said:
Not really. But I think those coming from the Middle East book their C section date, and then a hotel for the month beforehand.Pulpstar said:
Is flying whilst almost due advisable ?rcs1000 said:
The numbers for Westminster and Kensington & Chelsea are skewed by the big private maternity hospitals (The Portland, etc.). People actually fly into the UK to have their baby at the Portland or at St John & St Elizabeth.PlatoSaid said:ONS
5 areas in London have over 50% residents born outside the UK https://t.co/DCR8IBnAaq
Does the baby acquire "London rights" ?
It's why I will never insure with Allianz - my wife was midway through the process with Portland and Allianz stopped coverage (or rather offered a continuation policy that explicitly excluded the treatment we had paid for and were receiving). Utterly unethical.0 -
I don't know. Modern Family, Blackish and a couple of others are good, albeit rather tame family sitcoms. I loved Arrested Development.Pulpstar said:
Comedy has gone to utter shit in the last 20 years. Drama OTOH has been incredible.kle4 said:
Comedies were better then and there's a lot more dross around now, but TV overall is far superior now.Jonathan said:
1970s TV was better, hence the lower birthrate. The govt need to increase the licence fee.glw said:
It's closer to 500k a year right now. We need to build a new Birmingham worth of everything every two years just to stand still, never mind build enough to make up for the decades we have not met targets.AndyJS said:One of my favourite statistics is that the population of the UK increased by only 650,000 during the 1970s. That's about two years' worth of growth these days.
What I can't stand are the so-called stand up comedians who simply rant left-wing bile about anyone right of centre, without any introspection of the failings of left-wing politicians. They simply annoy me, even when what they say is genuinely funny.0 -
In the Battle of Britain, Summer 1940, a fair number of pilots were shot down over the channel. Assuming they survived the parachute jump, if they were not picked up quickly they died - from cold not drowning.CD13 said:Mr JS,
Floating on your back and keeping your mouth out of the water will keep you alive in warm water, if you don't panic. Not so certain in UK seas where hypothermia is a risk, even in summer.0 -
The health insurance (and pet insurance, for that matter) sector gives the rest of the industry a bad name.Charles said:
Out of pocket it really hurts.rcs1000 said:
My wife had our children at the Portland, and it was as civilized an experience as childbirth is ever likely to be. The wine list was superb.Pulpstar said:
Whats so good about popping a sprog in England specifically ?rcs1000 said:
Not really. But I think those coming from the Middle East book their C section date, and then a hotel for the month beforehand.Pulpstar said:
Is flying whilst almost due advisable ?rcs1000 said:
The numbers for Westminster and Kensington & Chelsea are skewed by the big private maternity hospitals (The Portland, etc.). People actually fly into the UK to have their baby at the Portland or at St John & St Elizabeth.PlatoSaid said:ONS
5 areas in London have over 50% residents born outside the UK https://t.co/DCR8IBnAaq
Does the baby acquire "London rights" ?
It's why I will never insure with Allianz - my wife was midway through the process with Portland and Allianz stopped coverage (or rather offered a continuation policy that explicitly excluded the treatment we had paid for and were receiving). Utterly unethical.
Even out of pocket, though, it's difficult to say it's not worth it, surely?0 -
And Stafford would have continued being a basket case, and other trusts and hospitals would not have learnt some very important lessons that only came out in the public inquiry.DecrepitJohnL said:
Surely that was Burnham's argument for not making the enquiry public.JosiasJessop said:
No "look squirrel" there. I suggest you re-read my post and also various articles about the problems they have recruiting, such as the ones linked to below. Here's a particularly interesting snippet:DecrepitJohnL said:Burnham may well be a hypocrite or worse, but has damn all to do with today's problems. The "look, squirrel" is to avoid criticism of the current regime.
Mr Hacket said: "It is clear to me that the historic problems at Mid Staffs prevented Stafford Hospital from recruiting and retaining staff, which ultimately had an effect on patient care. Despite all of this, I believe the legacy of Mid Staffs on the NHS will be safer staffing and a change in the culture of the NHS where staff and patients are better listened to.
If the trust and the NHS had reacted differently in the mid-2000s, people would not have died and others would not have suffered unnecessarily. The HSE prosecution into those deaths succeeded. It's hard to get crew for a ship that's sunk, even if it's been partially raised.
I also suggest you talk to people in the local area about their thoughts about Stafford hospital. You might realise that Labour's (and your) fetishisation of the NHS as an organisation is distinctly unhelpful.
(I think there's at least one poster from Blythe Bridge way - it'd be interesting to get his/hew input).
http://www.staffordshirenewsletter.co.uk/patient-care-stafford-s-hospital-suffered/story-28379369-detail/story.html
https://www.nursingtimes.net/clinical-archive/patient-safety/nurse-recruitment-problems-spark-urgent-mid-staffs-safety-review/5072090.article
By the same argument, the Hllsborough inquiry should never have happened because it might damage trust in the police and their chances of recruitment.
In fact it's an argument for there never to be inquiries into wrong-doing in public bodies.
Personally, I'd rather the lessons be learnt. And preferably the sh*ts who dd wrong to get prosecuted, not just the trusts.
You seem to suffer from Burnham's sick affliction that a trust matters more than its patients' health.0
