. Add that to the pile, including his wish to recognise Russia's invasion of other nations and to give them the green light to continue it elsewhere. .
What's your take on Turkey's occupation of northern Cyprus since 1974?
Watch the father's speech of the dead Muslim soldier.
"Donald Trump you have sacrificed nothing" is one of the most powerful lines of any Convention speech.
If the Democrats can articulate what this conveys about the self-indulgent, pampered, bigoted man child then Hillary is home and dry and Trump is finished.
Or it is mawkish populism. What has Hillary sacrificed that Trump hasn't? For that matter, if my son died in a war I would regard that son personally, and no one else (including me) as having made a sacrifice.
It's a good point. I knew something about that speech jarred but couldn't put my finger on it, but you're right - the problem is that he's not the candidate, Hilary is, and she hasn't sacrificed anything.
Mind you when did that ever make a difference in US politics anyway? Bush Snr was a war hero and that didn't help him against Clinton. John McCain was a war hero and that didn't help him against Obama. Maybe "You have sacrificed nothing" should make a difference but it just doesn't.
Draft dodgers generally do well in US Presidential elections. Bush Junior's campaign went so far as to mock John Kerry's Purple Hearts much as draft dodger Trump belittled McCain's Vietnamese imprisonment. I think the yanks despise anyone who ends up in the military despite their vulgar jingoism.
I watched a fascinating PBS docu a while ago about the attitude to the military - the gap between wanting to serve vs what the government will do for veterans vs the dubious quests they've been sent on vs the jingoism.
I found it really rather depressing and sorry for them. Those who volunteered to serve felt terribly strongly about doing their duty. They're 0.4% of the population now - if you include everyone alive who served, it rises to 7.3%.
We're better. The Royal family and the aristocracy still serve in the military. The yank upper echelons are now utterly devoid of noblesse oblige.
That's a very fair point. Well noted.
To be fair we have a number of MPs who served in the military or are serving in the reserve forces. I don't know but I suspect a higher proportion than they have in Congress.
Edit: actually I do the Americans an injustice. The figures are about the same, it seems:
"The chain has angered customers by co-operating with immigration services, betraying employees who had lied about their identities, just to avoid potentially unlimited fines.
Eleanor Shaw, who has vowed never to eat in a Byron again, said: “What other laws do they obey? All of them?
...
“If the whole chain had been shut down in a nationwide immigration investigation, with prison sentences and the loss of 1,500 jobs, I for one would have been proud.”
I must say, I like the daily mash because I feel they really do take the piss out of the left and the right with equal causticness sometimes, whereas even as a centrish lefty (according to political compass anyway) I get a bit bored of overtly lefty humour.
I was watching Alpha House the other day, the comedy about Republican Senators, and even as someone who disagrees with a great many of Republican positions, especially social positions, you can tell at times the writers just couldn't help themselves from not just using the characters, who obviously it wants you to like to some degree, to illustrate and poke fun at modern Republicanism (something it does fairly well much of the time), but just had to throw in completely unsubtle out of place and out of character lines directly pointing out how stupid Repubicanism was, in case anyone didn't get it. I don't know if it is written by Democrats or just people in despair at recent Republicans, but it undermines its own effectiveness and comedic value by putting in those moments of too much earnestness in the wrong place.
I picked out this comment on Hillary's speech because I suspect it's representative of a large part of America:
I started this whole thing believing that Trump was a joke and that this woman was borderline intolerable yet the best choice amongst the viable candidates. Now whenever I see her I hate her slightly more, and whenever I see Trump I like him slightly more.
There was a moment in the 2008 campaign when polling showed that Obama was more likeable than Hillary which led to his putdown, "You're likeable enough, Hillary." Well she isn't.
Any Democrat comparing Joe Biden's performance at the DNC to Hillary's must be enraged and baffled. Why her ? Why ?
They really should have gone with Biden, shouldn't they?
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I guess it's just another symptom of how politics is becoming polarised.
I find the US election both bonkers and fascinating! The American public have the choice between the two most unpopular candidates in history. It's Alien v Predator, how can 330m people boil down to those two?
I'm now thinking I actually want to see Trump win, just to stick two fingers up to the cozy Washington establishment. The opening that's certain is that nothing will change under Hillary - she's no Obama and certainly no Bill Clinton either.
Wanting a racist to win just to stick two fingers up at the establishment is surely taking things too far. What he said about that Latino judge surely disqualifies him from the support of any decent person. Then there's his idea about throwing the world economy into complete turmoil by withdrawing from the WTO, not to mention giving Putin a free hand by not honouring the US's NATO commitments.
Hillary is an awful candidate and the DC establishment certainly needs shaking up, but Trump is not the person to do it.
I dislike Teump less than Clinton, she doesn't understand classified information. But agreed, a truly terrible choice.
Crooked Hillary v. Crazy Donald
Whoever wins, we lose(?)
Biden was sensational.
"He’s trying to tell us he cares about the middle class? Give me a break! That’s a bunch of malarkey !"
I really wonder whether there were a lot of delegates wondering why the hell he wasn't the candidate.
Otherwise Con Lab and Lib Dem holds in yesterday's local by-elections.
Some fantastic division names down in Cornwall. Newlyn and Mousehole is another one. Mullion and Grade-Ruan. Penwithick and Boscoppa. I am a little surprised there's quite a few seats, like this one, where the LDs didn't stand in 2013, considering they appear to be in fine shape in Cornwall in council terms.
And, really, who in God's name advised her that a white trouser suit which makes her arse and thighs look even bigger than they are was a good idea? Can't the poor woman afford a mirror?
At least it was better than some of her 'President-of-a-Future-Star-Federation' outfits.
It's been a strange year. Clinton is terrible, Owen Smith is terrible yet people are desperate for both to win as the alternative is even worse.
She should not be in trousers at all. Or if she must long tunics over them are a necessity. Dresses would be far more elegant for her.
Really, lots of people who should know better seem to get dressed in the dark, as if they'd blundered into their wardrobes with their bodies covered in glue and left the house with whatever got attached to them. A mirror would help, a rear view mirror in many cases.
People should make a bit of an effort not to be a complete eyesore when out in public. It's only polite.
Ms Cyclefree, we must never meet. If you saw me, you'd likely drop dead instantly, the offence to your fashionable sensibilities would be so great. I used to say I dressed like a tramp, until I received a 'cease and desist' letter from the Tramps' Association.
Well, that would be a shame. I make an exception for men who make me laugh or who are interesting (or who are interested in me - ).
I shall take that oblique compliment in the spirit in which I hope it is intended, and redouble my attempts to dazzle you from afar .
Trump yesterday threatening violence against people who anger him. Add that to the pile, including his wish to recognise Russia's invasion of other nations and to give them the green light to continue it elsewhere.
Sorry, but if anyone expresses a wish that he should win, you are as repugnant as he is. If it's just for a laugh then you really need to think about the consequences to the international situation, it's not enoughh just to want to hope to profit from a USA in full self destruction mode.
Oh what a panty-waist you are. Owen Smith wanted to smash Mrs May two days ago. He said Ms Plaid got the job because of her gender and that the LDs would be exposed once their make-up wore off like a domestic abuse victim.
Smith doesn't seem to do it regularly but just as vile a comment. Trump cheerleaders, knowing now what he is, have no excuse. He isn't fit to walk the sane ground as Reagan, McCain, even Romney. Hopefully he will finally self combust and he can be replaced by a true conservative like Ryan.
Excellent news, Mr. Meeks. Let's hope the recovery continues.
You should buy him TA Dodge's Hannibal biography/history (simply entitled 'Hannibal', but do be careful you buy a full version rather than the [perhaps unlabelled] abridged version which seems to have popped up).
Mr. Taffys, I think that's the wrong area to focus on (regarding Islam/integration).
The first thing we should have done and ought to do now is to be firm in standing up for our own culture. Allowing thousand to march with placards calling for Death to the West was rampant cowardice.
Jesus and Mo's cartoonist shouldn't be the subject of interrogation by Paxman but afforded support by media and politicians.
And, really, who in God's name advised her that a white trouser suit which makes her arse and thighs look even bigger than they are was a good idea? Can't the poor woman afford a mirror?
At least it was better than some of her 'President-of-a-Future-Star-Federation' outfits.
It's been a strange year. Clinton is terrible, Owen Smith is terrible yet people are desperate for both to win as the alternative is even worse.
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Mrs Free, why do you think it is that so many female politicians, including TM, insist on wearing trousers? Could it be down to some sort inferiority complex whereby they have to deny their own femininity?
I have no idea. Trousers can look good and feminine on a woman but (a) you need them to be very well cut; and (b) they need to suit your figure. Then there is the question of what you wear on top. Something short only suits the slender. If you're not slender and put something vast on top to hide everything you get the tent effect. So quite a lot of care is needed. And then the shoes are usually all wrong. Stilettos with trouser suits - that's just a crime.
I suspect the reason is probably more prosaic: not wanting to worry about skirts - their length / tights / the state of their legs / whether their ankles are fat that day / shoes etc and a belief that trousers are somehow easier.
The art of dressing well is "se sentir bien dans son peau" i.e. working out what suits you and makes you feel good/comfortable rather than just buying fashion. But some people don't really have any sort of visual sense at all. I'm constantly amazed at how messy and ugly some people's houses are - I'd feel quite ill if I lived like that - but others don't see it. And there is no real social pressure - as, say, in Italy - to look well dressed in public nor do people (or women, say) get complimented.
Meow. What I find perplexing is that many lady politicians seem to disregard professional advice - or their helpers aren't being honest enough. Mrs Merkel's clothes like Boris' look a size too small. Mrs May wears too many things that distract from what she's saying - the giant beads, dayglo yellow pockets and cleavage when she became PM is the most obvious.
I don't mind her shoes, it's her trademark that let's her personality leak out - however, I hope she resists her previous temptations to wear Star Fleet uniforms. She's a few in her wardrobe. I'm rather fond of Dr No jackets - but I'm not playing the same game.
Trump yesterday threatening violence against people who anger him. Add that to the pile, including his wish to recognise Russia's invasion of other nations and to give them the green light to continue it elsewhere.
Sorry, but if anyone expresses a wish that he should win, you are as repugnant as he is. If it's just for a laugh then you really need to think about the consequences to the international situation, it's not enoughh just to want to hope to profit from a USA in full self destruction mode.
Oh what a panty-waist you are. Owen Smith wanted to smash Mrs May two days ago. He said Ms Plaid got the job because of her gender and that the LDs would be exposed once their make-up wore off like a domestic abuse victim.
Smith doesn't seem to do it regularly but just as vile a comment. Trump cheerleaders, knowing now what he is, have no excuse. He isn't fit to walk the sane ground as Reagan, McCain, even Romney. Hopefully he will finally self combust and he can be replaced by a true conservative like Ryan.
Trump-Pence is now the official GOP ticket, Trump cannot be replaced
Somehow, Vettel and other German drivers haven't captured the imagination of the German public in the same way that that cheating scumbag did. Apparently it's because Schumacher was seen as the working class hero and represented the confidence that the reunified Germany had.
I picked out this comment on Hillary's speech because I suspect it's representative of a large part of America:
I started this whole thing believing that Trump was a joke and that this woman was borderline intolerable yet the best choice amongst the viable candidates. Now whenever I see her I hate her slightly more, and whenever I see Trump I like him slightly more.
There was a moment in the 2008 campaign when polling showed that Obama was more likeable than Hillary which led to his putdown, "You're likeable enough, Hillary." Well she isn't.
Any Democrat comparing Joe Biden's performance at the DNC to Hillary's must be enraged and baffled. Why her ? Why ?
Because Hillary bothered to run and she won the primaries
''Jesus and Mo's cartoonist shouldn't be the subject of interrogation by Paxman but afforded support by media and politicians. ''
Mr Morris in an ideal Western world it would be possible both for Monty Python to make a 'life of MO' satire, and for people to protest peacefully against it outside cinemas.
I don;t see it happening, somehow. Not now, and not in the future.
Trump yesterday threatening violence against people who anger him. Add that to the pile, including his wish to recognise Russia's invasion of other nations and to give them the green light to continue it elsewhere.
Sorry, but if anyone expresses a wish that he should win, you are as repugnant as he is. If it's just for a laugh then you really need to think about the consequences to the international situation, it's not enoughh just to want to hope to profit from a USA in full self destruction mode.
Oh what a panty-waist you are. Owen Smith wanted to smash Mrs May two days ago. He said Ms Plaid got the job because of her gender and that the LDs would be exposed once their make-up wore off like a domestic abuse victim.
Smith doesn't seem to do it regularly but just as vile a comment. Trump cheerleaders, knowing now what he is, have no excuse. He isn't fit to walk the sane ground as Reagan, McCain, even Romney. Hopefully he will finally self combust and he can be replaced by a true conservative like Ryan.
Trump-Pence is now the official GOP ticket, Trump cannot be replaced
It's a tragedy for the GOP, the tea party crowd laid the ground for this and they didn't react until too late, they need to get a hold of their party quick, or they'll end up like labour.
Mr. 86, it's weird. Germany has the best current team, has had a recent four time champion, has a contender for this year's title race, yet the ticket sales are so low that the hope for the organisers this year is to break even. Half as many turn up for the German race as the British one.
F1: bad news. The standing wet starts aren't as good as they sound.
"Looking at 2017, two new rules will be introduced - there will be standing re-starts after a safety car start in wet conditions; and during a race stoppage, teams will no longer be able to change their cars or tyres."
I do love these sort of threads - we get to learn all sorts of cultural things. Thanks for those stats.
I was going to repeat a popular meme about convicts getting sentence commutation for military service and checked Google - I couldn't find any recent evidence for it. Past felon waivers aren't massive either
"Data released by the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform showed the number of soldiers admitted to the Army with felony records doubled from 249 in 2006 to 511 in 2007. The number of Marines with felonies rose from 208 to 350. According to the U.S. Army, 15 percent of recruits needed waivers in the 12-month period ending on September 30, 2006; 18 percent of the recruits needed them in the fiscal year ending September 30, 2007. The total number of sailors who received felony waivers was 48 in 2006 and 42 in 2007. There were no Air Force recruits with waivers for felony convictions in 2007.[4]"
Otherwise Con Lab and Lib Dem holds in yesterday's local by-elections.
This is an invalid result - more than three quarters of the voters voted against the LD candidate. - Isn't that what the left always say when the Tories win an election?
I have no idea. Trousers can look good and feminine on a woman but (a) you need them to be very well cut; and (b) they need to suit your figure. Then there is the question of what you wear on top. Something short only suits the slender. If you're not slender and put something vast on top to hide everything you get the tent effect. So quite a lot of care is needed. And then the shoes are usually all wrong. Stilettos with trouser suits - that's just a crime.
I suspect the reason is probably more prosaic: not wanting to worry about skirts - their length / tights / the state of their legs / whether their ankles are fat that day / shoes etc and a belief that trousers are somehow easier.
The art of dressing well is "se sentir bien dans son peau" i.e. working out what suits you and makes you feel good/comfortable rather than just buying fashion. But some people don't really have any sort of visual sense at all. I'm constantly amazed at how messy and ugly some people's houses are - I'd feel quite ill if I lived like that - but others don't see it. And there is no real social pressure - as, say, in Italy - to look well dressed in public nor do people (or women, say) get complimented.
Meow. What I find perplexing is that many lady politicians seem to disregard professional advice - or their helpers aren't being honest enough. Mrs Merkel's clothes like Boris' look a size too small. Mrs May wears too many things that distract from what she's saying - the giant beads, dayglo yellow pockets and cleavage when she became PM is the most obvious.
I don't mind her shoes, it's her trademark that let's her personality leak out - however, I hope she resists her previous temptations to wear Star Fleet uniforms. She's a few in her wardrobe. I'm rather fond of Dr No jackets - but I'm not playing the same game.
Mrs Merkel's jackets are the sort of mistake that a woman with a big bosom and not much of an hour glass shape (as far as one can tell) often makes. She's buying something big in the hope of covering it all up. All it does is draw attention and make her look huge and shapeless. But it sort of works and has become a uniform for her.
I quite like May's look though it isn't always entirely successful. I admire boldness and strong colours and patterns. Women over a certain age should not fade into invisibility. If anything they can be much more striking and elegant than when younger.
''and they will decide not to give up on our values for unAmerican ones. ''
Its funny. Being a middle aged person I remember going to see LIfe of Brian. You had to travel to see it, because it was banned in some parts of Wales.
Imagine a movie like that satirizing islam in the UK now?
I've got news for you. We have already given up our values. What we have to decide now is whether we want to live with the current wretched accommodation.
''Sorry, but if anyone expresses a wish that he should win, you are as repugnant as he is.''
What's repugnant is your asinine attempt to silence debate. PB is not a safe space, no matter how much you would like it to be.
Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable in the JCR, where your views won;t be challenged in the way they are on here.
Its your call.
It's an example of how the Left is going badly wrong. There's a fanatic need for moral purity. No jokes, no jibes allowed. No association with those deemed unsuitable. Free speech replaced by no-platforming. Dissent replaced by safe spaces and social shunning.
Where I disagree with some on PB is that it's my belief that everyone has the right to march with placards saying 'Death to the West'. They should only be arrested if they commit an offence. Free speech doesn't just mean people saying things I want to hear.
Trump yesterday threatening violence against people who anger him. Add that to the pile, including his wish to recognise Russia's invasion of other nations and to give them the green light to continue it elsewhere.
Sorry, but if anyone expresses a wish that he should win, you are as repugnant as he is. If it's just for a laugh then you really need to think about the consequences to the international situation, it's not enoughh just to want to hope to profit from a USA in full self destruction mode.
Oh what a panty-waist you are. Owen Smith wanted to smash Mrs May two days ago. He said Ms Plaid got the job because of her gender and that the LDs would be exposed once their make-up wore off like a domestic abuse victim.
Smith doesn't seem to do it regularly but just as vile a comment. Trump cheerleaders, knowing now what he is, have no excuse. He isn't fit to walk the sane ground as Reagan, McCain, even Romney. Hopefully he will finally self combust and he can be replaced by a true conservative like Ryan.
Trump-Pence is now the official GOP ticket, Trump cannot be replaced
It's a tragedy for the GOP, the tea party crowd laid the ground for this and they didn't react until too late, they need to get a hold of their party quick, or they'll end up like labour.
If Trump loses Cruz will be favourite for the 2020 primaries which means the Democrats could be in the White House for 16 years, if May wins the next election as looks likely the Tories will be in for 15 years. Both the Tories and Democrats now are firmly in the centre, the GOP and Labour have been taken over by ideologues.
Otherwise Con Lab and Lib Dem holds in yesterday's local by-elections.
This is an invalid result - more than three quarters of the voters voted against the LD candidate. - Isn't that what the left always say when the Tories win an election?
"The chain has angered customers by co-operating with immigration services, betraying employees who had lied about their identities, just to avoid potentially unlimited fines.
Eleanor Shaw, who has vowed never to eat in a Byron again, said: “What other laws do they obey? All of them?
...
“If the whole chain had been shut down in a nationwide immigration investigation, with prison sentences and the loss of 1,500 jobs, I for one would have been proud.”
Most populists - left and right - define themselves by what they hate not by what they want to achieve.
I'd put a slightly different twist on it. Populists, by definition, have to convince a large portion of the electorate that they are 'on their side', which in turn by definition requires another side, a them. Thus the populist has to identify or create a 'them'.
A populist wins over the masses by exploiting one or more predicaments the masses face by asserting that the predicament is not their own fault - they bear no responsibility for it - and so it must be the fault of the others, the them.
Thus the populist must offer hope that the masses' predicament can be alleviated, which in turn requires expounding solutions, even if these are negative solutions (end immigration to prevent them taking our jobs, smash the power of the Jewish financiers) and even if these 'solutions' are unworkable fantasies based on lies, racism and/or character assassinations.
''Sorry, but if anyone expresses a wish that he should win, you are as repugnant as he is.''
What's repugnant is your asinine attempt to silence debate. PB is not a safe space, no matter how much you would like it to be.
Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable in the JCR, where your views won;t be challenged in the way they are on here.
Its your call.
It's an example of how the Left is going badly wrong. There's a fanatic need for moral purity. No jokes, no jibes allowed. No association with those deemed unsuitable. Free speech replaced by no-platforming. Dissent replaced by safe spaces and social shunning.
Where I disagree with some on PB is that it's my belief that everyone has the right to march with placards saying 'Death to the West'. They should only be arrested if they commit an offence. Free speech doesn't just mean people saying things I want to hear.
"Death to the West" may - just - be on the right side of the line of incitement to violence. But "Behead those who insult Islam" seems to me to be on the wrong side of that line. And yet people were permitted to march on the streets of London saying just that and worse. And people rightly object to that. When some people do incite violence, nothing is done - out of fear and cowardice. Long past the time for this to stop.
Mr. M, I'd also be against people marching with placards saying Death to Muslims. If you're accepting (albeit reluctantly) of the Death to the West example, would you also be happy with the Death to Muslims example?
The standard must be applied equally. There's a valid argument over where to draw the line, but it must treat all equally.
''Sorry, but if anyone expresses a wish that he should win, you are as repugnant as he is.''
What's repugnant is your asinine attempt to silence debate. PB is not a safe space, no matter how much you would like it to be.
Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable in the JCR, where your views won;t be challenged in the way they are on here.
Its your call.
It's an example of how the Left is going badly wrong. There's a fanatic need for moral purity. No jokes, no jibes allowed. No association with those deemed unsuitable. Free speech replaced by no-platforming. Dissent replaced by safe spaces and social shunning.
Where I disagree with some on PB is that it's my belief that everyone has the right to march with placards saying 'Death to the West'. They should only be arrested if they commit an offence. Free speech doesn't just mean people saying things I want to hear.
What? I voted Cameron and will vote May. I supported Reagan and Bush 1 (Bush 2 was an economic disaster), If pointing out that supporting someone repugnant reflecting on that person is silencing free speech then you are off the rails. It is a paean to freedom, by allowing people to say what they want that we can see what they are and where we stand in comparison. I get the impression that poster just didn't like having their views challenged.
wow. Just watched the speech by the Muslim guy "have you even read the U.S constitution"? that was the most powerful part of the convention.
Everybody accepts there are good muslims. Are the benefits worth the risk of what we're seeing in France and Germany? or Syria and Iraq?
That's what voters around the world are weighing up. And they are perfectly correct to do so.
My father has just come out of hospital. I met his carer yesterday, who will visit him four times a day and works six days a week. He happens to be Muslim.
Do you think I should tell him he should be deported because a handful of people who share his religion have carried out some despicable criminal acts?
Otherwise Con Lab and Lib Dem holds in yesterday's local by-elections.
This is an invalid result - more than three quarters of the voters voted against the LD candidate. - Isn't that what the left always say when the Tories win an election?
It's not the system the Lib Dems want. Until we have a fair voting system they have to put up with it, like the rest of us.
''Sorry, but if anyone expresses a wish that he should win, you are as repugnant as he is.''
What's repugnant is your asinine attempt to silence debate. PB is not a safe space, no matter how much you would like it to be.
Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable in the JCR, where your views won;t be challenged in the way they are on here.
Its your call.
It's an example of how the Left is going badly wrong. There's a fanatic need for moral purity. No jokes, no jibes allowed. No association with those deemed unsuitable. Free speech replaced by no-platforming. Dissent replaced by safe spaces and social shunning.
Where I disagree with some on PB is that it's my belief that everyone has the right to march with placards saying 'Death to the West'. They should only be arrested if they commit an offence. Free speech doesn't just mean people saying things I want to hear.
What? I voted Cameron and will vote May. I supported Reagan and Bush 1 (Bush 2 was an economic disaster), If pointing out that supporting someone repugnant reflecting on that person is silencing free speech then you are off the rails. It is a paean to freedom, by allowing people to say what they want that we can see what they are and where we stand in comparison. I get the impression that poster just didn't like having their views challenged.
Talking of free speech, Trump gave your boy Cruz plenty of rope to hang himself with at the RNC. Beautiful..
Mr. 86, it's weird. Germany has the best current team, has had a recent four time champion, has a contender for this year's title race, yet the ticket sales are so low that the hope for the organisers this year is to break even. Half as many turn up for the German race as the British one.
F1: bad news. The standing wet starts aren't as good as they sound.
"Looking at 2017, two new rules will be introduced - there will be standing re-starts after a safety car start in wet conditions; and during a race stoppage, teams will no longer be able to change their cars or tyres."
They got quite a good crowd at the sachsenring for the MotoGP two weeks ago and DTM is very popular. Perhaps F1 is just not selling well because the product is lousy?
The restart rule sounds stupid - why not just delay the start of the race? I'd prefer a rolling start in the wet rather waiting for it to dry out. I was at Silverstone this year and it was a joke how long they stayed behind the safety car.
Trump yesterday threatening violence against people who anger him. Add that to the pile, including his wish to recognise Russia's invasion of other nations and to give them the green light to continue it elsewhere.
Sorry, but if anyone expresses a wish that he should win, you are as repugnant as he is. If it's just for a laugh then you really need to think about the consequences to the international situation, it's not enoughh just to want to hope to profit from a USA in full self destruction mode.
Oh what a panty-waist you are. Owen Smith wanted to smash Mrs May two days ago. He said Ms Plaid got the job because of her gender and that the LDs would be exposed once their make-up wore off like a domestic abuse victim.
Smith doesn't seem to do it regularly but just as vile a comment. Trump cheerleaders, knowing now what he is, have no excuse. He isn't fit to walk the sane ground as Reagan, McCain, even Romney. Hopefully he will finally self combust and he can be replaced by a true conservative like Ryan.
Trump-Pence is now the official GOP ticket, Trump cannot be replaced
Yes he can. It's called impeachment. But we can only do that after he is elected.
More about Hinkley. If the unions, industry bodies and private companies are in favour of it then it is quite clear the project is fundamentally flawed. It is a prospective gravy train which needs to be derailed by hard headed thinking.
Mr. 86, agreed. They spend far too long behind the safety car and it's bloody tedious.
The product, as it were, needs improvement. Stripping away fripperies (DRS should be tossed overboard) and getting a better track designer would be a good start.
''Sorry, but if anyone expresses a wish that he should win, you are as repugnant as he is.''
What's repugnant is your asinine attempt to silence debate. PB is not a safe space, no matter how much you would like it to be.
Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable in the JCR, where your views won;t be challenged in the way they are on here.
Its your call.
It's an example of how the Left is going badly wrong. There's a fanatic need for moral purity. No jokes, no jibes allowed. No association with those deemed unsuitable. Free speech replaced by no-platforming. Dissent replaced by safe spaces and social shunning.
Where I disagree with some on PB is that it's my belief that everyone has the right to march with placards saying 'Death to the West'. They should only be arrested if they commit an offence. Free speech doesn't just mean people saying things I want to hear.
"Death to the West" may - just - be on the right side of the line of incitement to violence. But "Behead those who insult Islam" seems to me to be on the wrong side of that line. And yet people were permitted to march on the streets of London saying just that and worse. And people rightly object to that. When some people do incite violence, nothing is done - out of fear and cowardice. Long past the time for this to stop.
(Also in response to Mr Dancer).
Calling for the death of an abstraction ('The West') is fine. So would 'Down with the UK'. Your example seems to be eminently arrest-worthy. Ditto 'Death to Muslims'.
When we have laws that are not enforced due to cultural relativism (or any other reason for that matter), it's unacceptable. There is a world of difference between tolerance and pandering.
As I've said previously, I bid adieu to moral and cultural relativism some time ago. As I have no political power, sadly, this means precisely nothing in the great scheme of things.
wow. Just watched the speech by the Muslim guy "have you even read the U.S constitution"? that was the most powerful part of the convention.
Everybody accepts there are good muslims. Are the benefits worth the risk of what we're seeing in France and Germany? or Syria and Iraq?
That's what voters around the world are weighing up. And they are perfectly correct to do so.
My father has just come out of hospital. I met his carer yesterday, who will visit him four times a day and works six days a week. He happens to be Muslim.
Do you think I should tell him he should be deported because a handful of people who share his religion have carried out some despicable criminal acts?
I cannot believe that I have just read that wearing trousers now is denying your femininity, apparently. Believe it or not maybe these female politicians just aren't interested in adhering to some people's notions of femininity. Some people reject the idea of femininity altogether and don't see it as some type of inherent trait which all women must have.
wow. Just watched the speech by the Muslim guy "have you even read the U.S constitution"? that was the most powerful part of the convention.
Everybody accepts there are good muslims. Are the benefits worth the risk of what we're seeing in France and Germany? or Syria and Iraq?
That's what voters around the world are weighing up. And they are perfectly correct to do so.
My father has just come out of hospital. I met his carer yesterday, who will visit him four times a day and works six days a week. He happens to be Muslim.
Do you think I should tell him he should be deported because a handful of people who share his religion have carried out some despicable criminal acts?
No, he should actually be deported for the piss-poor shambles he made of bringing you up.
It can't be your fault that you are so badly educated and wrong about (literally) everything.
Trump yesterday threatening violence against people who anger him. Add that to the pile, including his wish to recognise Russia's invasion of other nations and to give them the green light to continue it elsewhere.
Sorry, but if anyone expresses a wish that he should win, you are as repugnant as he is. If it's just for a laugh then you really need to think about the consequences to the international situation, it's not enoughh just to want to hope to profit from a USA in full self destruction mode.
Oh what a panty-waist you are. Owen Smith wanted to smash Mrs May two days ago. He said Ms Plaid got the job because of her gender and that the LDs would be exposed once their make-up wore off like a domestic abuse victim.
Smith doesn't seem to do it regularly but just as vile a comment. Trump cheerleaders, knowing now what he is, have no excuse. He isn't fit to walk the sane ground as Reagan, McCain, even Romney. Hopefully he will finally self combust and he can be replaced by a true conservative like Ryan.
Trump-Pence is now the official GOP ticket, Trump cannot be replaced
Yes he can. It's called impeachment. But we can only do that after he is elected.
To be impeached as you say he will have to have won the election anyway in which case Trump's protectionist, nationalist policies would have the backing of a majority of Americans and the issue of the GOP nominating a losing candidate would not apply
''Sorry, but if anyone expresses a wish that he should win, you are as repugnant as he is.''
What's repugnant is your asinine attempt to silence debate. PB is not a safe space, no matter how much you would like it to be.
Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable in the JCR, where your views won;t be challenged in the way they are on here.
Its your call.
It's an example of how the Left is going badly wrong. There's a fanatic need for moral purity. No jokes, no jibes allowed. No association with those deemed unsuitable. Free speech replaced by no-platforming. Dissent replaced by safe spaces and social shunning.
Where I disagree with some on PB is that it's my belief that everyone has the right to march with placards saying 'Death to the West'. They should only be arrested if they commit an offence. Free speech doesn't just mean people saying things I want to hear.
"Death to the West" may - just - be on the right side of the line of incitement to violence. But "Behead those who insult Islam" seems to me to be on the wrong side of that line. And yet people were permitted to march on the streets of London saying just that and worse. And people rightly object to that. When some people do incite violence, nothing is done - out of fear and cowardice. Long past the time for this to stop.
Surely the only difference between the various formats of "Death to ..." is the degree to which it can be argued it is a figurative flourish of speech as opposed to a practical exhortation to violence against a person or persons. "Death to the West" is less practical than, say, "Death to Muslims" which is less specifically violent than "Death to Salman Rushdie".
As you say, given the slippery slope, "Death to the West" may - just - be on the right side of the line. I would argue that "Death to Christians" or "Death to Muslims" or "Death to Jews" is not.
Thrak isn't denying anyone's right to free speech. An individual's right to support/like Trump or whomever else does not deny others the right to critique that support in response. Far too many seem to think freedom of speech means freedom to say whatever they like without anyone challenging their POV in response.
I'm hearing reports that John O has successfully found his way to San Jose. Unfortunately, so far, it's not working out too well. He's parking cars and pumping gas ......
Do you think I should tell him he should be deported because a handful of people who share his religion have carried out some despicable criminal acts?
'No, I don't. '
I don;t believe any sensible person has ever suggested deportations, ever, and I certainly wouldn;t.
"Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership campaign hopes that events in York, Leeds, Hull and Liverpool over the weekend will mobilise large numbers of the grassroots membership as he aims to replicate the successful nationwide speaking tour in last year’s contest.
Corbyn will be joined by fellow MPs Richard Burgon and Imran Hussain as well as local councillors in each of the cities."
But, if you walked round inner city Bradford with a placard saying "Death to Islam" or round a WWC council estate with a placard saying "Behead all British soldiers" and got kicked the shit out of by the locals, you wouldn't get any sympathy from me.
But, if you walked round inner city Bradford with a placard saying "Death to Islam" or round a WWC council estate with a placard saying "Behead all British soldiers" and got kicked the shit out of by the locals, you wouldn't get any sympathy from me.
Well quite. There's an appalling video circulating on twitter of a Muslim man being incredibly insulting to a police officer. He didn't get arrested. Anyone else would be.
It's this sort of double standards that drives ordinary people wild.
''Sorry, but if anyone expresses a wish that he should win, you are as repugnant as he is.''
What's repugnant is your asinine attempt to silence debate. PB is not a safe space, no matter how much you would like it to be.
Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable in the JCR, where your views won;t be challenged in the way they are on here.
Its your call.
It's an example of how the Left is going badly wrong. There's a fanatic need for moral purity. No jokes, no jibes allowed. No association with those deemed unsuitable. Free speech replaced by no-platforming. Dissent replaced by safe spaces and social shunning.
Where I disagree with some on PB is that it's my belief that everyone has the right to march with placards saying 'Death to the West'. They should only be arrested if they commit an offence. Free speech doesn't just mean people saying things I want to hear.
What? I voted Cameron and will vote May. I supported Reagan and Bush 1 (Bush 2 was an economic disaster), If pointing out that supporting someone repugnant reflecting on that person is silencing free speech then you are off the rails. It is a paean to freedom, by allowing people to say what they want that we can see what they are and where we stand in comparison. I get the impression that poster just didn't like having their views challenged.
Talking of free speech, Trump gave your boy Cruz plenty of rope to hang himself with at the RNC. Beautiful..
Don't like Cruz, not many people like Cruz! Like I say, I would have been happy with Ryan.
''Sorry, but if anyone expresses a wish that he should win, you are as repugnant as he is.''
What's repugnant is your asinine attempt to silence debate. PB is not a safe space, no matter how much you would like it to be.
Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable in the JCR, where your views won;t be challenged in the way they are on here.
Its your call.
It's an example of how the Left is going badly wrong. There's a fanatic need for moral purity. No jokes, no jibes allowed. No association with those deemed unsuitable. Free speech replaced by no-platforming. Dissent replaced by safe spaces and social shunning.
Where I disagree with some on PB is that it's my belief that everyone has the right to march with placards saying 'Death to the West'. They should only be arrested if they commit an offence. Free speech doesn't just mean people saying things I want to hear.
"Death to the West" may - just - be on the right side of the line of incitement to violence. But "Behead those who insult Islam" seems to me to be on the wrong side of that line. And yet people were permitted to march on the streets of London saying just that and worse. And people rightly object to that. When some people do incite violence, nothing is done - out of fear and cowardice. Long past the time for this to stop.
Surely the only difference between the various formats of "Death to ..." is the degree to which it can be argued it is a figurative flourish of speech as opposed to a practical exhortation to violence against a person or persons. "Death to the West" is less practical than, say, "Death to Muslims" which is less specifically violent than "Death to Salman Rushdie".
As you say, given the slippery slope, "Death to the West" may - just - be on the right side of the line. I would argue that "Death to Christians" or "Death to Muslims" or "Death to Jews" is not.
Peter Spence ONS: UK exports grew faster than world exports in 2015, for the first time since 2006 EDIT The UK grew at double the pace of the US and the eurozone in the second quarter.
''Sorry, but if anyone expresses a wish that he should win, you are as repugnant as he is.''
What's repugnant is your asinine attempt to silence debate. PB is not a safe space, no matter how much you would like it to be.
Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable in the JCR, where your views won;t be challenged in the way they are on here.
Its your call.
It's an example of how the Left is going badly wrong. There's a fanatic need for moral purity. No jokes, no jibes allowed. No association with those deemed unsuitable. Free speech replaced by no-platforming. Dissent replaced by safe spaces and social shunning.
Where I disagree with some on PB is that it's my belief that everyone has the right to march with placards saying 'Death to the West'. They should only be arrested if they commit an offence. Free speech doesn't just mean people saying things I want to hear.
"Death to the West" may - just - be on the right side of the line of incitement to violence. But "Behead those who insult Islam" seems to me to be on the wrong side of that line. And yet people were permitted to march on the streets of London saying just that and worse. And people rightly object to that. When some people do incite violence, nothing is done - out of fear and cowardice. Long past the time for this to stop.
Surely the only difference between the various formats of "Death to ..." is the degree to which it can be argued it is a figurative flourish of speech as opposed to a practical exhortation to violence against a person or persons. "Death to the West" is less practical than, say, "Death to Muslims" which is less specifically violent than "Death to Salman Rushdie".
As you say, given the slippery slope, "Death to the West" may - just - be on the right side of the line. I would argue that "Death to Christians" or "Death to Muslims" or "Death to Jews" is not.
What about "Death to Jesus"?
Bit late for that. In any case, it didn't stick the first time!
"Corbynism is nothing like a New Politics. As Thompson argues Corbyn’s roots are in Vanguardism, the belief that politics is about “building hard left power and ultimately controlling the machine.” Thompson also quotes Ken Spours as arguing Corbynism is a “primitive political bloc.” This is true, and it may fragment. But not while the Parliamentary Labour Party is dominated by the ideas of New Labour, and making damaging mistakes like the legal challenge of Michael Foster."
Peter Spence ONS: UK exports grew faster than world exports in 2015, for the first time since 2006
EDIT
The UK grew at double the pace of the US and the eurozone in the second quarter.
Dare one mention the March of the makers? I miss Osborne.
The pink book makes for truly dire reading. British businesses should read it and weep for all the lost opportunity. Foreign companies investing in the UK see better returns than they do in their own countries and British businesses investment is still a complete embarrassment.
I'm hearing reports that John O has successfully found his way to San Jose. Unfortunately, so far, it's not working out too well. He's parking cars and pumping gas ......
With a dream in your heart you're never alone Dreams turn into dust and blow away And there you are without a friend
Peter Spence ONS: UK exports grew faster than world exports in 2015, for the first time since 2006
EDIT
The UK grew at double the pace of the US and the eurozone in the second quarter.
Dare one mention the March of the makers? I miss Osborne.
The pink book makes for truly dire reading. British businesses should read it and weep for all the lost opportunity. Foreign companies investing in the UK see better returns than they do in their own countries and British businesses investment is still a complete embarrassment.
"The online and television media showed “clear and consistent bias” against Jeremy Corbyn at the start of the Labour leadership coup, according to new research, which also accuses the BBC of giving twice as much airtime to Corbyn’s critics than to his supporters on some programmes during the crisis.
The exclusive study from The Media Reform Coalition and Birkbeck, University of London, analysed TV and online news during the 10 days after the wave of resignations from Corbyn’s shadow cabinet following the Brexit vote in late June."
I'm hearing reports that John O has successfully found his way to San Jose. Unfortunately, so far, it's not working out too well. He's parking cars and pumping gas ......
With a dream in your heart you're never alone Dreams turn into dust and blow away And there you are without a friend
Yes. All those broken dreams turned to dust. Now he'll find that
Yep. McGarry the SNP's former in-house purveyor of Scottish Council Houses to English investors is still in the Commons...
McGarry was involved in property? That's a new one.
If you're going to whine impotently about the EssEnnPee you should at least get the names right, otherwise it just increases the impotence quotient.
You have me there, Mr Divvie.
Apologies to Ms McGarry for attaching her to the wrong scandal.
The supplier of former Council Houses to the English and gaining approval to be an SNP candidate via there due dilligence process was one of the others - Michelle Thomson.
McGarry is the one with:
- The seemingly absent £30k at Women for Independence. - Falsely branding the head of Scotland in Union as a holocaust denier. Followed by apology, legal costs, charitable donation. - Various spats with various people. - Now on - I think - her second police investigation. Said the Guardian 2 months ago.
With so many dodgy EssEnnPee personalities everywhere it is difficult to keep track :-) ;
If you don't want people to point out questionable SNP activities, then they should stop doing them. Putting the nationalist head in a bucket and whistling loudly does not work.
One of the factors in the spread of the least tolerant strands of Islam is the Saudi funding of Schools and Marassas in places like Pakistan. The option for many is a Salafist education or none at all.
Peter Spence ONS: UK exports grew faster than world exports in 2015, for the first time since 2006 EDIT The UK grew at double the pace of the US and the eurozone in the second quarter.
Must be due to Brexit?
Good afternoon all.
Today's favourite Brexitery is the following passage. You can almost hear the mental crunch of gears shifting as he realises that the reflexive link isn't going to stand up:
"Given the state of the stagnant French GDP figures this morning the Eurozone will likely take the 0.3pc growth it managed in the second quarter. That is, however, half of what it produced in Q1, suggesting that either the region was impacted by the run-up to Brexit or, more likely considering how the UK avoided a pre-referendum slump, has more than a few problems of its own to contend with."
''Sorry, but if anyone expresses a wish that he should win, you are as repugnant as he is.''
What's repugnant is your asinine attempt to silence debate. PB is not a safe space, no matter how much you would like it to be.
Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable in the JCR, where your views won;t be challenged in the way they are on here.
Its your call.
You can say what the hell you want, it's only through such freedom that we can see people's true colours. Do you support the thug then?
Do you support the crook then?
Honestly, the candidates that the two parties have put up make me wonder how anyone can seriously support either. It's like London mayor writ large.
What was the O'Rourke quote about being objectionable within 'normal parameters'?
Yeah, it doesn't lead to vociferous support such as you have been giving...
Pretty much all my comments are anti Trump. I suppose some could see that as vociferous support but look again.
You've been acting like a DNC spinner.
Trump is a danger to us, the only other game in town is the Democrats. The equation from that point on is easy. Sanders would be beyond the pale for me but I can cope with Clinton.
On the other hand, anyone promoting Trump as a decent candidate I look on, not as a conservative, but as an enabler for the far right. As I was a Cameron fan (and, so far, a May devotee) what else do you expect?
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Newlyn & Goonhavern result:
LDEM: 24.4% (+24.4)
CON: 23.1% (-23.0)
IND: 16.1% (+16.1)
MK: 15.9% (-28.1)
LAB: 7.6% (-2.2)
IND: 7.4%
IND: 5.3%
Otherwise Con Lab and Lib Dem holds in yesterday's local by-elections.
Edit: actually I do the Americans an injustice. The figures are about the same, it seems:
https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43869.pdf
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/353a6ace-356d-11e5-b05b-b01debd57852.html
I was watching Alpha House the other day, the comedy about Republican Senators, and even as someone who disagrees with a great many of Republican positions, especially social positions, you can tell at times the writers just couldn't help themselves from not just using the characters, who obviously it wants you to like to some degree, to illustrate and poke fun at modern Republicanism (something it does fairly well much of the time), but just had to throw in completely unsubtle out of place and out of character lines directly pointing out how stupid Repubicanism was, in case anyone didn't get it. I don't know if it is written by Democrats or just people in despair at recent Republicans, but it undermines its own effectiveness and comedic value by putting in those moments of too much earnestness in the wrong place.
"He’s trying to tell us he cares about the middle class? Give me a break! That’s a bunch of malarkey !"
I really wonder whether there were a lot of delegates wondering why the hell he wasn't the candidate.
What's repugnant is your asinine attempt to silence debate. PB is not a safe space, no matter how much you would like it to be.
Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable in the JCR, where your views won;t be challenged in the way they are on here.
Its your call.
Surprising so few spectators turn up to a race in Germany.
Everybody accepts there are good muslims. Are the benefits worth the risk of what we're seeing in France and Germany? or Syria and Iraq?
That's what voters around the world are weighing up. And they are perfectly correct to do so.
You should buy him TA Dodge's Hannibal biography/history (simply entitled 'Hannibal', but do be careful you buy a full version rather than the [perhaps unlabelled] abridged version which seems to have popped up).
The first thing we should have done and ought to do now is to be firm in standing up for our own culture. Allowing thousand to march with placards calling for Death to the West was rampant cowardice.
Jesus and Mo's cartoonist shouldn't be the subject of interrogation by Paxman but afforded support by media and politicians.
I don't mind her shoes, it's her trademark that let's her personality leak out - however, I hope she resists her previous temptations to wear Star Fleet uniforms. She's a few in her wardrobe. I'm rather fond of Dr No jackets - but I'm not playing the same game.
If you want to get worked up about something, look up the few times he did say things like, "I'd like to punch him in the face," about protesters.
http://tinyurl.com/h234xpw
Somehow, Vettel and other German drivers haven't captured the imagination of the German public in the same way that that cheating scumbag did. Apparently it's because Schumacher was seen as the working class hero and represented the confidence that the reunified Germany had.
Mr Morris in an ideal Western world it would be possible both for Monty Python to make a 'life of MO' satire, and for people to protest peacefully against it outside cinemas.
I don;t see it happening, somehow. Not now, and not in the future.
Safest of safe space.
Honestly, the candidates that the two parties have put up make me wonder how anyone can seriously support either. It's like London mayor writ large.
F1: bad news. The standing wet starts aren't as good as they sound.
"Looking at 2017, two new rules will be introduced - there will be standing re-starts after a safety car start in wet conditions; and during a race stoppage, teams will no longer be able to change their cars or tyres."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/formula1/36684756
I was going to repeat a popular meme about convicts getting sentence commutation for military service and checked Google - I couldn't find any recent evidence for it. Past felon waivers aren't massive either
"Data released by the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform showed the number of soldiers admitted to the Army with felony records doubled from 249 in 2006 to 511 in 2007. The number of Marines with felonies rose from 208 to 350. According to the U.S. Army, 15 percent of recruits needed waivers in the 12-month period ending on September 30, 2006; 18 percent of the recruits needed them in the fiscal year ending September 30, 2007. The total number of sailors who received felony waivers was 48 in 2006 and 42 in 2007. There were no Air Force recruits with waivers for felony convictions in 2007.[4]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_waiver
Have the rules changed since 2006/7 ? The top Google results for both are all about ten yrs old.
I quite like May's look though it isn't always entirely successful. I admire boldness and strong colours and patterns. Women over a certain age should not fade into invisibility. If anything they can be much more striking and elegant than when younger.
A well dressed woman or man is a wonderful sight.
Its funny. Being a middle aged person I remember going to see LIfe of Brian. You had to travel to see it, because it was banned in some parts of Wales.
Imagine a movie like that satirizing islam in the UK now?
I've got news for you. We have already given up our values. What we have to decide now is whether we want to live with the current wretched accommodation.
Where I disagree with some on PB is that it's my belief that everyone has the right to march with placards saying 'Death to the West'. They should only be arrested if they commit an offence. Free speech doesn't just mean people saying things I want to hear.
Quite. Now people grovel about a cartoon character slipping on a religious text, over in the blink of an eye.
A populist wins over the masses by exploiting one or more predicaments the masses face by asserting that the predicament is not their own fault - they bear no responsibility for it - and so it must be the fault of the others, the them.
Thus the populist must offer hope that the masses' predicament can be alleviated, which in turn requires expounding solutions, even if these are negative solutions (end immigration to prevent them taking our jobs, smash the power of the Jewish financiers) and even if these 'solutions' are unworkable fantasies based on lies, racism and/or character assassinations.
The standard must be applied equally. There's a valid argument over where to draw the line, but it must treat all equally.
Do you think I should tell him he should be deported because a handful of people who share his religion have carried out some despicable criminal acts?
The restart rule sounds stupid - why not just delay the start of the race? I'd prefer a rolling start in the wet rather waiting for it to dry out. I was at Silverstone this year and it was a joke how long they stayed behind the safety car.
The product, as it were, needs improvement. Stripping away fripperies (DRS should be tossed overboard) and getting a better track designer would be a good start.
Anyway, I'm off for a bit.
Calling for the death of an abstraction ('The West') is fine. So would 'Down with the UK'. Your example seems to be eminently arrest-worthy. Ditto 'Death to Muslims'.
When we have laws that are not enforced due to cultural relativism (or any other reason for that matter), it's unacceptable. There is a world of difference between tolerance and pandering.
As I've said previously, I bid adieu to moral and cultural relativism some time ago. As I have no political power, sadly, this means precisely nothing in the great scheme of things.
If Hillary Clinton becomes President, she'll have to sit behind the same desk that Monica Lewinsky sat under
#ThoughtOfTheDay
Droitwich West (Wychavon) result:
CON: 41.9% (-1.8)
LAB: 24.0% (-14.6)
UKIP: 19.7% (+19.7)
LDEM: 14.5% (+14.5)
Con HOLD.
It can't be your fault that you are so badly educated and wrong about (literally) everything.
As you say, given the slippery slope, "Death to the West" may - just - be on the right side of the line. I would argue that "Death to Christians" or "Death to Muslims" or "Death to Jews" is not.
'No, I don't. '
I don;t believe any sensible person has ever suggested deportations, ever, and I certainly wouldn;t.
http://labourlist.org/2016/07/corbyn-campaign-looks-to-mobilise-thousands-in-the-north/
"Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership campaign hopes that events in York, Leeds, Hull and Liverpool over the weekend will mobilise large numbers of the grassroots membership as he aims to replicate the successful nationwide speaking tour in last year’s contest.
Corbyn will be joined by fellow MPs Richard Burgon and Imran Hussain as well as local councillors in each of the cities."
But, if you walked round inner city Bradford with a placard saying "Death to Islam" or round a WWC council estate with a placard saying "Behead all British soldiers" and got kicked the shit out of by the locals, you wouldn't get any sympathy from me.
ONS: UK exports grew faster than world exports in 2015, for the first time since 2006
EDIT
The UK grew at double the pace of the US and the eurozone in the second quarter.
It's this sort of double standards that drives ordinary people wild.
http://labour-uncut.co.uk/2016/07/29/labours-much-changed-leadership-rules-are-a-case-study-for-the-law-of-unintended-consequences/#more-21015
"Corbynism is nothing like a New Politics. As Thompson argues Corbyn’s roots are in Vanguardism, the belief that politics is about “building hard left power and ultimately controlling the machine.” Thompson also quotes Ken Spours as arguing Corbynism is a “primitive political bloc.” This is true, and it may fragment. But not while the Parliamentary Labour Party is dominated by the ideas of New Labour, and making damaging mistakes like the legal challenge of Michael Foster."
Dreams turn into dust and blow away
And there you are without a friend
They've got a lot of space.
There'll be a place where he can stay.
So, @OwenJones84 gives @jeremycorbyn a no-holds-barred, Paxman-style grilling. Oh sorry, no, he doesn't. https://t.co/OneucEw8qZ
Short urls miss all the fun
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2016/jul/29/jeremy-corbyn-im-very-optimistic-video-interview
"The online and television media showed “clear and consistent bias” against Jeremy Corbyn at the start of the Labour leadership coup, according to new research, which also accuses the BBC of giving twice as much airtime to Corbyn’s critics than to his supporters on some programmes during the crisis.
The exclusive study from The Media Reform Coalition and Birkbeck, University of London, analysed TV and online news during the 10 days after the wave of resignations from Corbyn’s shadow cabinet following the Brexit vote in late June."
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_579a3cd7e4b06d7c426edff0?edition=uk&utm_hp_ref=uk
Separately you are aware of how much more the world as a whole exports compared to what it imports...
Man, this 25-year effort to humanize Hillary is the most expensive public works project since the Hoover Dam.
Weeks turn into years.
How quick they pass.
If he'd only made ermine.
Apologies to Ms McGarry for attaching her to the wrong scandal.
The supplier of former Council Houses to the English and gaining approval to be an SNP candidate via there due dilligence process was one of the others - Michelle Thomson.
McGarry is the one with:
- The seemingly absent £30k at Women for Independence.
- Falsely branding the head of Scotland in Union as a holocaust denier. Followed by apology, legal costs, charitable donation.
- Various spats with various people.
- Now on - I think - her second police investigation. Said the Guardian 2 months ago.
With so many dodgy EssEnnPee personalities everywhere it is difficult to keep track :-) ;
If you don't want people to point out questionable SNP activities, then they should stop doing them. Putting the nationalist head in a bucket and whistling loudly does not work.
Today's favourite Brexitery is the following passage. You can almost hear the mental crunch of gears shifting as he realises that the reflexive link isn't going to stand up:
"Given the state of the stagnant French GDP figures this morning the Eurozone will likely take the 0.3pc growth it managed in the second quarter. That is, however, half of what it produced in Q1, suggesting that either the region was impacted by the run-up to Brexit or, more likely considering how the UK avoided a pre-referendum slump, has more than a few problems of its own to contend with."
On the other hand, anyone promoting Trump as a decent candidate I look on, not as a conservative, but as an enabler for the far right. As I was a Cameron fan (and, so far, a May devotee) what else do you expect?