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Vegas was best described to me as like a car crash on the other side of the highway, you can't help but slow down & peak at what is going on, but then having seen a seriously injured person you spend the rest of the day feeling morally dirty.0
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Yes, an interesting dynamic.MaxPB said:
It doesn't matter, the commission are being sidelined, the Council has already chosen a Belgian diplomat to lead the talks. This is Juncker desperately playing catch up to try and keep his job.TheWhiteRabbit said:
UMP > EPP > Commission.TheScreamingEagles said:AFP: Juncker names France's Michel Barnier to lead Brexit talks: official
Could be worse.0 -
The humidity in Florida, and bugs big enough to fly home on too...SandyRentool said:
Dubai in August? Brave choice!TheScreamingEagles said:
I really wanted to do Las Vegas again, alas I have children and my parents with me, I don't think my mother could cope with me enjoying Las Vegas.stodge said:
Mrs Stodge and I are considering Florida for our winter break. You can be assured Disneyworld won't be on the list. We like the look of Fort Lauderdale for a few days followed by a short cruise on one of the big Royal Caribbean ships followed by a few more days in Fort Lauderdale or Miami before heading home.TheScreamingEagles said:
I shall be in Disneyworld Florida enjoying the weather (!).
I normally don't celebrate minor battles, the most important and impressive battle to be fought on August the 2nd is the Battle of Chaeronea.
I'd rather do Las Vegas or Palm Springs again but Mrs Stodge has vetoed that.
We're doing 5 days in Florida, then a few days in New York, then fly back to the UK, then head to Dubai.
I really need this holiday.
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Only in the live blog, I don't think there was proper coverage.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm fairly certain they covered the ICM poll yesterdayWulfrun_Phil said:
Besides which they only report opinion poll findings that they themselves commission, leaving their target audience none the wiser that Labour is up to 16% behind in the polls unless they tap in to another news source.MaxPB said:https://uploads.guim.co.uk/2016/07/27/GMG_Group_&_Company_Accounts_2016.pdf
Full results from The Guardian. Summary - fucked.
Revenue down, digital revenue down, subscriber growth is poor and overall they have no strategy to properly monetise the audience they have cultivated (young people and socialists).
Highlights.
Operating costs increased(!) from £257.3m to £278.2m, while revenue fell from £217.5m to £209.5m, a truly lefty business plan, let's spend our way out of trouble!
This time last year they had cash and equivalents of £841.9m, this year that figure stands at £771.3m, they have also written down their stake in Ascential from £319m to £206.2m.
Another couple of years like this and the model becomes unsustainable, I wouldn't be surprised if they try and flog themselves to the NYTimes.0 -
What the worst thing they do at some of the casinos is they give you free drinks if you keep on playing at the tables, that's a disaster waiting to happen, fortunately, as a good Muslim boy, I turned down the drinks.FrancisUrquhart said:Vegas was best described to me as like a car crash on the other side of the highway, you can't help but slow down & peak at what is going on, but then having seen a seriously injured person you spend the rest of the day feeling morally dirty.
It was the sheer number of high class hookers in Vegas there that surprised me.0 -
Quelle surprise....... NotTheScreamingEagles said:AFP: Juncker names France's Michel Barnier to lead Brexit talks: official
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They have given proper coverage to polls in the past though...MaxPB said:
Only in the live blog, I don't think there was proper coverage.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm fairly certain they covered the ICM poll yesterdayWulfrun_Phil said:
Besides which they only report opinion poll findings that they themselves commission, leaving their target audience none the wiser that Labour is up to 16% behind in the polls unless they tap in to another news source.MaxPB said:https://uploads.guim.co.uk/2016/07/27/GMG_Group_&_Company_Accounts_2016.pdf
Full results from The Guardian. Summary - fucked.
Revenue down, digital revenue down, subscriber growth is poor and overall they have no strategy to properly monetise the audience they have cultivated (young people and socialists).
Highlights.
Operating costs increased(!) from £257.3m to £278.2m, while revenue fell from £217.5m to £209.5m, a truly lefty business plan, let's spend our way out of trouble!
This time last year they had cash and equivalents of £841.9m, this year that figure stands at £771.3m, they have also written down their stake in Ascential from £319m to £206.2m.
Another couple of years like this and the model becomes unsustainable, I wouldn't be surprised if they try and flog themselves to the NYTimes.
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I went for work related reasons a few summers ago.SandyRentool said:
Dubai in August? Brave choice!TheScreamingEagles said:
I really wanted to do Las Vegas again, alas I have children and my parents with me, I don't think my mother could cope with me enjoying Las Vegas.stodge said:
Mrs Stodge and I are considering Florida for our winter break. You can be assured Disneyworld won't be on the list. We like the look of Fort Lauderdale for a few days followed by a short cruise on one of the big Royal Caribbean ships followed by a few more days in Fort Lauderdale or Miami before heading home.TheScreamingEagles said:
I shall be in Disneyworld Florida enjoying the weather (!).
I normally don't celebrate minor battles, the most important and impressive battle to be fought on August the 2nd is the Battle of Chaeronea.
I'd rather do Las Vegas or Palm Springs again but Mrs Stodge has vetoed that.
We're doing 5 days in Florida, then a few days in New York, then fly back to the UK, then head to Dubai.
I really need this holiday.
Enjoy!
I just about coped. Is only for a few days.0 -
It is the debates that will be most enjoyable to watch.david_herdson said:
This is a 12% lead in mid-term (albeit during a PM-change honeymoon). What it would be after four weeks of Corbyn leading Labour during a general election campaign is another matter.TheScreamingEagles said:ICYMI
Times/YouGov poll. Changes since last week. Con 40% (nc) Lab 28% (-1) UKIP 13% (+1) LD: 9% (nc)
Loving how some Corbynistas are spinning a 12% deficit as good news, 'shows ICM is an outlier' that kinda stuff.
As if a 12% lead wouldn't see Labour get smashed like the Bulgars at the battle of Kleidon
I suspect Theresa May will be quoting some of Corbyn's back catalogue to him.0 -
Reading accounts of the time, it's astonishing how atrophied the Conservative Party had become in 1997 and how much by contrast Labour had modernised.david_herdson said:Though Hague got this from Day One. His problem was that he simply wasn't strong enough to challenge Blair on the centre ground at the time and had he continued with the preemptive modernisation project he began, the Tories would have been smashed in the centre because he'd have been a second-rate version of Blair, and would also have crumbled on the right as they wouldn't have supported what he was putting forward. Hence what ultimately turned into a very defensive campaign in 2001.
What Hague did do as leader, which was of lasting benefit, was to reform the Conservatives' internal structures and make them fit for the 21st century rather than the 1950s.
I think this is key - opposition gives parties the opportunity to internally modernise, overhaul organisation and campaigning structures and generally re-invent the wheel. The problem is the time it takes for that realisation and the internal willingness to make it happen.
Labour, arguably, began the process in 1983 with the election of Kinnock just as the Conservatives did with the election of Hague in 1997. It's not a straight line or easily quantifiable process and there are plenty of variables. It's not a damascene moment, more a series of steps.
For Labour now, as I've said for some time, the question should be how to define Britain in the 2020s and to have a series of policies to provide stable, effective Government to the benefit of the people.0 -
Yeah, Andrew Sparrow blogs all polls, top bloke.MaxPB said:
Only in the live blog, I don't think there was proper coverage.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm fairly certain they covered the ICM poll yesterdayWulfrun_Phil said:
Besides which they only report opinion poll findings that they themselves commission, leaving their target audience none the wiser that Labour is up to 16% behind in the polls unless they tap in to another news source.MaxPB said:https://uploads.guim.co.uk/2016/07/27/GMG_Group_&_Company_Accounts_2016.pdf
Full results from The Guardian. Summary - fucked.
Revenue down, digital revenue down, subscriber growth is poor and overall they have no strategy to properly monetise the audience they have cultivated (young people and socialists).
Highlights.
Operating costs increased(!) from £257.3m to £278.2m, while revenue fell from £217.5m to £209.5m, a truly lefty business plan, let's spend our way out of trouble!
This time last year they had cash and equivalents of £841.9m, this year that figure stands at £771.3m, they have also written down their stake in Ascential from £319m to £206.2m.
Another couple of years like this and the model becomes unsustainable, I wouldn't be surprised if they try and flog themselves to the NYTimes.0 -
I really don’t see a long-term market for paid-for print NEWSpapers. Or even a medium term one, unless they’re “quick and easy", like the i. Magazines are possibly safer, and possibly, too, the big weekend editions with lots of specialist sections.TCPoliticalBetting said:
"The Guardian retains cash and investments of £765m, down from £838.3m last year, and its stake in Ascential was worth £206m in April following the writedown."PlatoSaid said:Yowser
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jul/27/guardian-losses-members
Guardian's losses hit £69m but it gains more than 50,000 paying members
I remember when annual losses in the operating business was £50m a year and they promised to cut that back. Last year they lost £69m. This cash mountain is falling quickly. I wonder when they will end printing.
It’s finding the alternative financial model that’s tricky. How are the on-line subscription papers doing?0 -
After the crowning will Monica parade in THAT DRESS?
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MikeK said:
After the crowning will Monica parade in THAT DRESS?
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TSE.Casino_Royale said:
Who?TCPoliticalBetting said:
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I thought Monica IS American. Or does she mean job-share?TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
.....and if she does, where will she parade it? (see 10:16am)
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So you have been and are one of the most vociferous opponents on this site of the U.K people determining its own future and how it is governed .felix said:
Oh dear - if you think the damage will be limited to Europe you're in for a nasty shock - but it wasfunny to see you referring to constipation. Here in Spain almost all problems can be borne with 325 sunny days and prices even now 30% less than the UK.MonikerDiCanio said:
I don't know what you mean by "we", I've never even visited Spain.felix said:
It's true we're gonna be crapped on for the next few years.MonikerDiCanio said:
Amazing what's possible post-Brexit. The great national constipation is being purged.PlatoSaid said:Been a long time coming, but good news
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/america-to-end-ban-on-british-meat-h9nqwm39j
Now you openly admit you live in Spain ???You don't even live in this country???
M'kay0 -
I only ever have a soft drink if I'm playing the tables - I've seen too many idiots getting drunk and you know they're going to lose their shirts and a whole lot else. Even when I'm at the racecourse, I don't drink alcohol. Nothing to do with religion - I just find sound judgement and alcohol don't mix. If you want to drink and gamble, play the slots.TheScreamingEagles said:
What the worst thing they do at some of the casinos is they give you free drinks if you keep on playing at the tables, that's a disaster waiting to happen, fortunately, as a good Muslim boy, I turned down the drinks.
It was the sheer number of high class hookers in Vegas there that surprised me.
As for the hookers, Mrs Stodge has told me in no uncertain terms what will happen if I take a card from one of the Hispanic gentlemen offering them on the sidewalk. I find Vegas "adult" but not sleazy especially on the Strip but during the day it's perfectly fine for families though being parted from your cash by your children wanting to have their picture taken with someone dressed as a minion is to be expected.
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http://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/times-newspapers-profits-near-11-million-paywall-offsets-ad-decline/1388802#OldKingCole said:
I really don’t see a long-term market for paid-for print NEWSpapers. Or even a medium term one, unless they’re “quick and easy", like the i. Magazines are possibly safer, and possibly, too, the big weekend editions with lots of specialist sections.TCPoliticalBetting said:
"The Guardian retains cash and investments of £765m, down from £838.3m last year, and its stake in Ascential was worth £206m in April following the writedown."PlatoSaid said:Yowser
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jul/27/guardian-losses-members
Guardian's losses hit £69m but it gains more than 50,000 paying members
I remember when annual losses in the operating business was £50m a year and they promised to cut that back. Last year they lost £69m. This cash mountain is falling quickly. I wonder when they will end printing.
It’s finding the alternative financial model that’s tricky. How are the on-line subscription papers doing?0 -
Yes, I know a few farmers and they are well known to always have something to grumble about! It is a curious asset rich/income poor lifestyle. One friend owns 2 000 acres of mixed arable farm, which he works with his son and earns about £25 000 income per year (though outgoings are low as he lives on the farm and spends nearly nothing on food).TheWhiteRabbit said:
Trust me, farmers complain whatever the weather. If it's good for wheat, it may not be good for a winter planting. Or for maize, or beet, etc etcfoxinsoxuk said:
I was chatting to an old farmer patient yesterday still working at age 81 ("I would rather wear out than rust out" he said to me a few years back).tlg86 said:GDP up 0.6% in Q2
Construction down 0.4%, agriculture down 1.0%.
The wheat harvest is going to be really poor because of the cold wet weather this year. On the other hand he has done well on his lambs exported to France due to the devaluation of Sterling.
He voted Brexit because of democratic deficit, but forecasting gloom for British farming as a result.
Apparently about 60% of British Lamb is exported to the EU, so selling well, but other produce less well. The problem with farming is that when it is a good year for harvest then it is a good year for others too, so the price falls, and in a poor year others do badly too and the price goes up. There is a certain amount of built in stabilisation.
The emphasis in CAP on environment compared to price support does mean that any post Brexit government is going to have to continue some acgricultural subsidies if it wants to maintain a green and pleasant countryside.0 -
I know but like you, I've seen far too many people get drunk and lose more money than they can't afford.stodge said:
I only ever have a soft drink if I'm playing the tables - I've seen too many idiots getting drunk and you know they're going to lose their shirts and a whole lot else. Even when I'm at the racecourse, I don't drink alcohol. Nothing to do with religion - I just find sound judgement and alcohol don't mix. If you want to drink and gamble, play the slots.TheScreamingEagles said:
What the worst thing they do at some of the casinos is they give you free drinks if you keep on playing at the tables, that's a disaster waiting to happen, fortunately, as a good Muslim boy, I turned down the drinks.
It was the sheer number of high class hookers in Vegas there that surprised me.
As for the hookers, Mrs Stodge has told me in no uncertain terms what will happen if I take a card from one of the Hispanic gentlemen offering them on the sidewalk. I find Vegas "adult" but not sleazy especially on the Strip but during the day it's perfectly fine for families though being parted from your cash by your children wanting to have their picture taken with someone dressed as a minion is to be expected.
Being an innocent type, on my first visit, I accidentally took one of those flyers, thinking it was offering places to eat/party/spend time, not realising it was for ladies of the night.0 -
You'll find that some of the grumpiest Remainers on this site are domiciled abroad, with income denominated in Sterling. Hence the saltiness.Moses_ said:
So you have been and are one of the most vociferous opponents on this site of the U.K people determining its own future and how it is governed .felix said:
Oh dear - if you think the damage will be limited to Europe you're in for a nasty shock - but it wasfunny to see you referring to constipation. Here in Spain almost all problems can be borne with 325 sunny days and prices even now 30% less than the UK.MonikerDiCanio said:
I don't know what you mean by "we", I've never even visited Spain.felix said:
It's true we're gonna be crapped on for the next few years.MonikerDiCanio said:
Amazing what's possible post-Brexit. The great national constipation is being purged.PlatoSaid said:Been a long time coming, but good news
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/america-to-end-ban-on-british-meat-h9nqwm39j
Now you openly admit you live in Spain ???You don't even live in this country???
M'kay0 -
Somewhere I’ve seen a cynical version of the Beaufort Scale for farmers; something about two days rain, farmers complain of ruined crop’s, two days drought, farmers complain of drought.foxinsoxuk said:
Yes, I know a few farmers and they are well known to always have something to grumble about! It is a curious asset rich/income poor lifestyle. One friend owns 2 000 acres of mixed arable farm, which he works with his son and earns about £25 000 income per year (though outgoings are low as he lives on the farm and spends nearly nothing on food).TheWhiteRabbit said:
Trust me, farmers complain whatever the weather. If it's good for wheat, it may not be good for a winter planting. Or for maize, or beet, etc etcfoxinsoxuk said:
I was chatting to an old farmer patient yesterday still working at age 81 ("I would rather wear out than rust out" he said to me a few years back).tlg86 said:GDP up 0.6% in Q2
Construction down 0.4%, agriculture down 1.0%.
The wheat harvest is going to be really poor because of the cold wet weather this year. On the other hand he has done well on his lambs exported to France due to the devaluation of Sterling.
He voted Brexit because of democratic deficit, but forecasting gloom for British farming as a result.
Apparently about 60% of British Lamb is exported to the EU, so selling well, but other produce less well. The problem with farming is that when it is a good year for harvest then it is a good year for others too, so the price falls, and in a poor year others do badly too and the price goes up. There is a certain amount of built in stabilisation.
The emphasis in CAP on environment compared to price support does mean that any post Brexit government is going to have to continue some acgricultural subsidies if it wants to maintain a green and pleasant countryside.
Must be on the web somewhere but I can’t find it!0 -
Some of the most fervent PB Brexiteers also do not live in Blighty.John_M said:
You'll find that some of the grumpiest Remainers on this site are domiciled abroad, with income denominated in Sterling. Hence the saltiness.Moses_ said:
So you have been and are one of the most vociferous opponents on this site of the U.K people determining its own future and how it is governed .felix said:
Oh dear - if you think the damage will be limited to Europe you're in for a nasty shock - but it wasfunny to see you referring to constipation. Here in Spain almost all problems can be borne with 325 sunny days and prices even now 30% less than the UK.MonikerDiCanio said:
I don't know what you mean by "we", I've never even visited Spain.felix said:
It's true we're gonna be crapped on for the next few years.MonikerDiCanio said:
Amazing what's possible post-Brexit. The great national constipation is being purged.PlatoSaid said:Been a long time coming, but good news
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/america-to-end-ban-on-british-meat-h9nqwm39j
Now you openly admit you live in Spain ???You don't even live in this country???
M'kay
Rather like the patriotic Irish and Scots you meet in their diasporas. Love their homeland but not crazy enough to actually want to live there.0 -
Yep, just as Mr Knopfler once reminded us "money for nothing and the drinks for free". The casinos don't mind you winning small and winning often - they have enough losers to be able to cope with the few winners.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know but like you, I've seen far too many people get drunk and lose more money than they can afford.
Being an innocent type, on my first visit, I accidentally took one of those flyers, thinking it was offering places to eat/party/spend time, not realising it was for ladies of the night.
I've always done well in Vegas - I start with a betting bank of $1000 and any profits go into food and shopping money for Mrs Stodge. Yes, it's been the Food Court on the odd occasion when it hasn't gone well but I can normally win enough for decent restaurants and Mrs Stodge sorts out any bookings for evening shows if we have a good session albeit at the half price ticket booths.
I'm not averse to buffets though there aren't many really good ones in my view. I do enjoy a good breakfast and there are three or four wonderful places I always visit - my favourite currently is the Terrace Pointe Café in The Wynn, a little on from the main buffet.
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So PBers, what's the absolute minimum number of seats Labour needs to win in 2020 to have a realistic chance of winning a small majority (say 20 seat majority) in 2025.
I'm assuming 600 seat parliament from 2020 onwards.0 -
Discovered something interesting on the ONS site. Only 15.2% of all UK companies do any international trade of any sort, either EU or RoW.
Only 40% of large (>250 folk) companies export. For small businesses (<50 folk) the ratio is even lower, just 10.2%.0 -
Thanks. Mixed picture, isn’t it! Wonder whether the run-up to the General Election had an effect.TCPoliticalBetting said:
http://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/times-newspapers-profits-near-11-million-paywall-offsets-ad-decline/1388802#OldKingCole said:
I really don’t see a long-term market for paid-for print NEWSpapers. Or even a medium term one, unless they’re “quick and easy", like the i. Magazines are possibly safer, and possibly, too, the big weekend editions with lots of specialist sections.TCPoliticalBetting said:
"The Guardian retains cash and investments of £765m, down from £838.3m last year, and its stake in Ascential was worth £206m in April following the writedown."PlatoSaid said:Yowser
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jul/27/guardian-losses-members
Guardian's losses hit £69m but it gains more than 50,000 paying members
I remember when annual losses in the operating business was £50m a year and they promised to cut that back. Last year they lost £69m. This cash mountain is falling quickly. I wonder when they will end printing.
It’s finding the alternative financial model that’s tricky. How are the on-line subscription papers doing?0 -
200TheScreamingEagles said:So PBers, what's the absolute minimum number of seats Labour needs to win in 2020 to have a realistic chance of winning a small majority (say 20 seat majority) in 2025.
I'm assuming 600 seat parliament from 2020 onwards.0 -
A peanut farmer won a bit longer ago. However 'Bernie' lost while Trump won. (Usual occupation of POTUS is a Lawyer - at least recently, initially they tended to be farmers/ plantation owners.)CD13 said:The refrain on here is that Trump is absurd, idiotic, or straight forward mad. Although I'm no expert on US politics, my view is that he's none of those. He is a good politician, he knows what works with his voters. HRC is a poor politician, riding on the coat tails of connections and money.
Incidentally, I don't regard being a good politician as a compliment, but it's easy to make the old mistake of thinking that people who disagree with you must be wrong and/or stupid (the default setting for the "elite").
Trumps actual policies aren't extreme for the Republican party, it's only his manner and some of his pubic utterances that are designed to set up howls of rage from the that same elite. He's playing them like a violin.
He might win, he probably won't, but he's the Bernie of the GOP. And the public current mood in many countries is for an "outsider".
If he's elected, I suspect he'll be far more sensible than some think.
An actor won big not long ago. No one expected that either.
Edit: "If he's elected, I suspect he'll be far more sensible than some think." I wish I could say the same about Jezza.0 -
Small businesses is not surprising: how many cornershops are going to trade internationally?John_M said:Discovered something interesting on the ONS site. Only 15.2% of all UK companies do any international trade of any sort, either EU or RoW.
Only 40% of large (>250 folk) companies export. For small businesses the ratio is even lower, just 10.2%.0 -
This is why the nation is not going to completely fade away outside of the EU.John_M said:Discovered something interesting on the ONS site. Only 15.2% of all UK companies do any international trade of any sort, either EU or RoW.
Only 40% of large (>250 folk) companies export. For small businesses the ratio is even lower, just 10.2%.0 -
He said "chicks for free" actually, very much not the case in Las Vegas aiui.stodge said:
Yep, just as Mr Knopfler once reminded us "money for nothing and the drinks for free". The casinos don't mind you winning small and winning often - they have enough losers to be able to cope with the few winners.TheScreamingEagles said:
I know but like you, I've seen far too many people get drunk and lose more money than they can afford.
Being an innocent type, on my first visit, I accidentally took one of those flyers, thinking it was offering places to eat/party/spend time, not realising it was for ladies of the night.
I've always done well in Vegas - I start with a betting bank of $1000 and any profits go into food and shopping money for Mrs Stodge. Yes, it's been the Food Court on the odd occasion when it hasn't gone well but I can normally win enough for decent restaurants and Mrs Stodge sorts out any bookings for evening shows if we have a good session albeit at the half price ticket booths.
I'm not averse to buffets though there aren't many really good ones in my view. I do enjoy a good breakfast and there are three or four wonderful places I always visit - my favourite currently is the Terrace Pointe Café in The Wynn, a little on from the main buffet.0 -
Think they'd need to be at most 90 behind that scenario which would be 220. Given the boundary changes that would imply gains on the current position.TheScreamingEagles said:So PBers, what's the absolute minimum number of seats Labour needs to win in 2020 to have a realistic chance of winning a small majority (say 20 seat majority) in 2025.
I'm assuming 600 seat parliament from 2020 onwards.0 -
One thing I note about farmers is how much they love the life. They slow down but rarely truly retire.OldKingCole said:
Somewhere I’ve seen a cynical version of the Beaufort Scale for farmers; something about two days rain, farmers complain of ruined crop’s, two days drought, farmers complain of drought.foxinsoxuk said:
Yes, I know a few farmers and they are well known to always have something to grumble about! It is a curious asset rich/income poor lifestyle. One friend owns 2 000 acres of mixed arable farm, which he works with his son and earns about £25 000 income per year (though outgoings are low as he lives on the farm and spends nearly nothing on food).TheWhiteRabbit said:
Trust me, farmers complain whatever the weather. If it's good for wheat, it may not be good for a winter planting. Or for maize, or beet, etc etcfoxinsoxuk said:
I was chatting to an old farmer patient yesterday still working at age 81 ("I would rather wear out than rust out" he said to me a few years back).tlg86 said:GDP up 0.6% in Q2
Construction down 0.4%, agriculture down 1.0%.
The wheat harvest is going to be really poor because of the cold wet weather this year. On the other hand he has done well on his lambs exported to France due to the devaluation of Sterling.
He voted Brexit because of democratic deficit, but forecasting gloom for British farming as a result.
Apparently about 60% of British Lamb is exported to the EU, so selling well, but other produce less well. The problem with farming is that when it is a good year for harvest then it is a good year for others too, so the price falls, and in a poor year others do badly too and the price goes up. There is a certain amount of built in stabilisation.
The emphasis in CAP on environment compared to price support does mean that any post Brexit government is going to have to continue some acgricultural subsidies if it wants to maintain a green and pleasant countryside.
Must be on the web somewhere but I can’t find it!
I remember treating one old farmer when I was working in Truro that in 85 years had only left Cornwall once. He went to an agricultural show in Somerset, but couldn't enjoy it as he was worried about his cows and wanted to get back as quickly as possible. I am jealous in some ways of someone so attached to place and land.0 -
I doubt the next non Conservative Gov't will be a Labour majority actually !TheScreamingEagles said:So PBers, what's the absolute minimum number of seats Labour needs to win in 2020 to have a realistic chance of winning a small majority (say 20 seat majority) in 2025.
I'm assuming 600 seat parliament from 2020 onwards.
Also we could have a 451541 parliament in 2025..0 -
A corner shop is a micro business. Small companies are up to 50 employees. SME's account for about 60% of the private sector workforce.TheWhiteRabbit said:
Small businesses is not surprising: how many cornershops are going to trade internationally?John_M said:Discovered something interesting on the ONS site. Only 15.2% of all UK companies do any international trade of any sort, either EU or RoW.
Only 40% of large (>250 folk) companies export. For small businesses the ratio is even lower, just 10.2%.0 -
They aren't hookers in Vegas, they are just extremely friendly ladies who need help paying for college.0
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Prostitution is illegal in Las Vegas, and therefore by definition cannot happen there. But there are licensed brothels just down the road in the attractively named Pahrump.FrancisUrquhart said:They aren't hookers in Vegas, they are just extremely friendly ladies who need help paying for college.
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M. Wiggy takes on the Brits.Casino_Royale said:
Interesting choice. He was Commissioner for Internal Market and Services for years, and knows a lot about financial services, banking union and digital markets.TheScreamingEagles said:AFP: Juncker names France's Michel Barnier to lead Brexit talks: official
Trouble is: he's French, and EPP. Which means (a) he'll probably be very tough on the UK and (b) his sympathies will be very federalist.
I can see why Juncker would like him.
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Your honour, she's not a hooker, she's a condom seller who was giving me a demonstration on how to use her product.FrancisUrquhart said:They aren't hookers in Vegas, they are just extremely friendly ladies who need help paying for college.
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"Ladies of negotiable affection" as the great pterry put it.FrancisUrquhart said:They aren't hookers in Vegas, they are just extremely friendly ladies who need help paying for college.
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Interesting.Pulpstar said:
I doubt the next non Conservative Gov't will be a Labour majority actually !TheScreamingEagles said:So PBers, what's the absolute minimum number of seats Labour needs to win in 2020 to have a realistic chance of winning a small majority (say 20 seat majority) in 2025.
I'm assuming 600 seat parliament from 2020 onwards.
Also we could have a 451541 parliament in 2025..
Thanks to Jonathan and ToryJim for their thoughts too.0 -
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I like counter-factuals. It genuinely surprised me.MaxPB said:
This is why the nation is not going to completely fade away outside of the EU.John_M said:Discovered something interesting on the ONS site. Only 15.2% of all UK companies do any international trade of any sort, either EU or RoW.
Only 40% of large (>250 folk) companies export. For small businesses the ratio is even lower, just 10.2%.
It's like the arguments about freedom of movement. When you look at the numbers it's a minority pursuit. 1.8% of Brits live in the EU27 (that's fewer than Brits in Oz). 3.6% of the EU live in other member states (and that's double counting the Brits). When we leave it'll drop to 3.5%.0 -
Would be a good place for you to clear some of your cra..constipation.MonikerDiCanio said:
I hear the Sahara is even sunnier and cheaper. Check it out.felix said:
Oh dear - if you think the damage will be limited to Europe you're in for a nasty shock - but it wasfunny to see you referring to constipation. Here in Spain almost all problems can be borne with 325 sunny days and prices even now 30% less than the UK.MonikerDiCanio said:
I don't know what you mean by "we", I've never even visited Spain.felix said:
It's true we're gonna be crapped on for the next few years.MonikerDiCanio said:
Amazing what's possible post-Brexit. The great national constipation is being purged.PlatoSaid said:Been a long time coming, but good news
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/america-to-end-ban-on-british-meat-h9nqwm39j0 -
Mr Kinnock's eldest daughter Johanna attended Atlantic College, near Llantwit Major, in the Vale of Glamorgan from 2013 to 2015. He said her study was "partly funded by a standard Danish state scholarship".
When in a hole, stop digging.0 -
Nothing Fox says can be taken at face value because he is going to spin everything positively for Brexit.TheScreamingEagles said:
Liam Fox isn't exactly inspiring confidence at the moment.alex. said:
"might want to do immediately after that"TheScreamingEagles said:Betting related post, in a Times article, headlined
'We won’t talk about trade until after Brexit, says US'
Liam Fox says this
Speaking in Washington, Dr Fox appeared to tone down his earlier optimistic rhetoric on trade, saying that “we cannot negotiate any new trade deals as long as we are part of the EU, which we will be for probably the next two years, with an exit in early 2019. We want to have discussions and to scope out any possible deals that we might want to do immediately after that.”
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/us-spurns-offer-of-trade-talks-wsk6gc5wx
Might want to begin to negotiate immediately after that...
However, Canada corrected Dr Fox after he suggested that “very fruitful” bilateral trade talks with Ottowa had begun. Chrystia Freeland, the international trade minister, said that the talks were “positive” but they were largely about Canada’s deal with the EU as a whole.0 -
Labour will need a minimum of 210 seats to have a shot at a majority in 2025. Dave made 96 gains at the end of 13 years of Labour government with the boundaries against him and he was a strong leader vs a weak one. I don't see how, under the new boundaries, Labour could hope to beat that even if everything went right and Brexit turns out to be an absolutely disaster with thr blame resting on the Tories. The other problem is that Labour will more than likely need direct Con -> Lab gains because I don't see the SNP losing more than a handful of seats in 2020 and the Lib Dems won't gain many either. The Tories won in 2015 by hollowing out rhe Lib Dems and holding the line against Labour. Labour don't have that easier option and must beat the Tories directly.0
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You have to remember that Canada wants to complete the CETA as soon as possible. It probably doesn't help them for Fox to be going around saying that they have opened up talks with the UK which the EU views as illegitimate given that we haven't left yet.OllyT said:
Nothing Fox says can be taken at face value because he is going to spin everything positively for Brexit.TheScreamingEagles said:
Liam Fox isn't exactly inspiring confidence at the moment.alex. said:
"might want to do immediately after that"TheScreamingEagles said:Betting related post, in a Times article, headlined
'We won’t talk about trade until after Brexit, says US'
Liam Fox says this
Speaking in Washington, Dr Fox appeared to tone down his earlier optimistic rhetoric on trade, saying that “we cannot negotiate any new trade deals as long as we are part of the EU, which we will be for probably the next two years, with an exit in early 2019. We want to have discussions and to scope out any possible deals that we might want to do immediately after that.”
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/us-spurns-offer-of-trade-talks-wsk6gc5wx
Might want to begin to negotiate immediately after that...
However, Canada corrected Dr Fox after he suggested that “very fruitful” bilateral trade talks with Ottowa had begun. Chrystia Freeland, the international trade minister, said that the talks were “positive” but they were largely about Canada’s deal with the EU as a whole.0 -
I remain a UK citizen and pay most of my taxes in the UK and vote in Uk elections.. It has never been a secret that I live in Spain. Why on earth would that be a problem for a non-bigot?Moses_ said:
So you have been and are one of the most vociferous opponents on this site of the U.K people determining its own future and how it is governed .felix said:
Oh dear - if you think the damage will be limited to Europe you're in for a nasty shock - but it wasfunny to see you referring to constipation. Here in Spain almost all problems can be borne with 325 sunny days and prices even now 30% less than the UK.MonikerDiCanio said:
I don't know what you mean by "we", I've never even visited Spain.felix said:
It's true we're gonna be crapped on for the next few years.MonikerDiCanio said:
Amazing what's possible post-Brexit. The great national constipation is being purged.PlatoSaid said:Been a long time coming, but good news
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/america-to-end-ban-on-british-meat-h9nqwm39j
Now you openly admit you live in Spain ???You don't even live in this country???
M'kay0 -
@foxinsox
"The emphasis in CAP on environment compared to price support does mean that any post Brexit government is going to have to continue some acgricultural subsidies if it wants to maintain a green and pleasant countryside."
You are probably correct, Doc, and I wouldn't have a problem with that as long as the subsidies are properly targeted. At present around here we currently have prime agricultural land left fallow whilst agribusinesses continue to plough up the tops of the South Downs to the point that there is very little soil left and the crops (mainly non-food crops) can only grow because of the chemicals they spread on the land. There aren't many farmers in West Sussex who have the sense of place of your Cornish dairy farmer.
Does anyone know how well the countryside is managed in New Zealand? They weaned their farmers of subsidies decades ago.0 -
Many small businesses also grow online but the EU is so far behind the UK in developing the web model it makes it slower to progress, not to mention all the language and logistics problems.TheWhiteRabbit said:
Small businesses is not surprising: how many cornershops are going to trade internationally?John_M said:Discovered something interesting on the ONS site. Only 15.2% of all UK companies do any international trade of any sort, either EU or RoW.
Only 40% of large (>250 folk) companies export. For small businesses the ratio is even lower, just 10.2%.
Overseas mail/parcel delivery is often dreadful when in the hands of national couriers. Our model is surprisingly good.0 -
Lol - fair point but I'm not so grumpy and will cope very well in the future living here. not the case for all 'expats' though. Many are elderly, frail and on quite limited incomes - if they are forced to return they'd be a huge burden on the UK health and benefit system.John_M said:
You'll find that some of the grumpiest Remainers on this site are domiciled abroad, with income denominated in Sterling. Hence the saltiness.Moses_ said:
So you have been and are one of the most vociferous opponents on this site of the U.K people determining its own future and how it is governed .felix said:
Oh dear - if you think the damage will be limited to Europe you're in for a nasty shock - but it wasfunny to see you referring to constipation. Here in Spain almost all problems can be borne with 325 sunny days and prices even now 30% less than the UK.MonikerDiCanio said:
I don't know what you mean by "we", I've never even visited Spain.felix said:
It's true we're gonna be crapped on for the next few years.MonikerDiCanio said:
Amazing what's possible post-Brexit. The great national constipation is being purged.PlatoSaid said:Been a long time coming, but good news
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/america-to-end-ban-on-british-meat-h9nqwm39j
Now you openly admit you live in Spain ???You don't even live in this country???
M'kay0 -
Original Deleted..not worth a replyfelix said:
I remain a UK citizen and pay most of my taxes in the UK and vote in Uk elections.. It has never been a secret that I live in Spain. Why on earth would that be a problem for a non-bigot?Moses_ said:
So you have been and are one of the most vociferous opponents on this site of the U.K people determining its own future and how it is governed .felix said:
Oh dear - if you think the damage will be limited to Europe you're in for a nasty shock - but it wasfunny to see you referring to constipation. Here in Spain almost all problems can be borne with 325 sunny days and prices even now 30% less than the UK.MonikerDiCanio said:
I don't know what you mean by "we", I've never even visited Spain.felix said:
It's true we're gonna be crapped on for the next few years.MonikerDiCanio said:
Amazing what's possible post-Brexit. The great national constipation is being purged.PlatoSaid said:Been a long time coming, but good news
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/america-to-end-ban-on-british-meat-h9nqwm39j
Now you openly admit you live in Spain ???You don't even live in this country???
M'kay0 -
Special interests always shout loudly, to make them seem less 'special'.John_M said:
I like counter-factuals. It genuinely surprised me.MaxPB said:
This is why the nation is not going to completely fade away outside of the EU.John_M said:Discovered something interesting on the ONS site. Only 15.2% of all UK companies do any international trade of any sort, either EU or RoW.
Only 40% of large (>250 folk) companies export. For small businesses the ratio is even lower, just 10.2%.
It's like the arguments about freedom of movement. When you look at the numbers it's a minority pursuit. 1.8% of Brits live in the EU27 (that's fewer than Brits in Oz). 3.6% of the EU live in other member states (and that's double counting the Brits). When we leave it'll drop to 3.5%.0 -
There's something rotten in standard Danish state scholarships.FrancisUrquhart said:Mr Kinnock's eldest daughter Johanna attended Atlantic College, near Llantwit Major, in the Vale of Glamorgan from 2013 to 2015. He said her study was "partly funded by a standard Danish state scholarship".
When in a hole, stop digging.0 -
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Oh dear! I have a teacher's pension - wholly taxed in the UK. I have a private pension wholly taxed in Spain exactly as required by the double tax treaty. I have savings in both with taxes fully paid in both. I pay for private healthcare and claim no benefits either in Spain or the UK.Moses_ said:
Original Deleted..not worth a replyfelix said:
I remain a UK citizen and pay most of my taxes in the UK and vote in Uk elections.. It has never been a secret that I live in Spain. Why on earth would that be a problem for a non-bigot?Moses_ said:
So you have been and are one of the most vociferous opponents on this site of the U.K people determining its own future and how it is governed .felix said:
Oh dear - if you think the damage will be limited to Europe you're in for a nasty shock - but it wasfunny to see you referring to constipation. Here in Spain almost all problems can be borne with 325 sunny days and prices even now 30% less than the UK.MonikerDiCanio said:
I don't know what you mean by "we", I've never even visited Spain.felix said:
It's true we're gonna be crapped on for the next few years.MonikerDiCanio said:
Amazing what's possible post-Brexit. The great national constipation is being purged.PlatoSaid said:Been a long time coming, but good news
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/america-to-end-ban-on-british-meat-h9nqwm39j
Now you openly admit you live in Spain ???You don't even live in this country???
M'kay
You really are making a tit of yourself.0 -
When you need to scroll halfway down a live blog to find a passing mention, you might as well come here for your news. I tried searching using their search engine and it still throws up nothing. And besides, going back to where we started regarding their business model, it still leaves anyone who shells out cash for the Guardian printed product none the wiser on the latest polling.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yeah, Andrew Sparrow blogs all polls, top bloke.MaxPB said:
Only in the live blog, I don't think there was proper coverage.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm fairly certain they covered the ICM poll yesterdayWulfrun_Phil said:
Besides which they only report opinion poll findings that they themselves commission, leaving their target audience none the wiser that Labour is up to 16% behind in the polls unless they tap in to another news source.MaxPB said:https://uploads.guim.co.uk/2016/07/27/GMG_Group_&_Company_Accounts_2016.pdf
Full results from The Guardian. Summary - fucked.
Revenue down, digital revenue down, subscriber growth is poor and overall they have no strategy to properly monetise the audience they have cultivated (young people and socialists).
Highlights.
Operating costs increased(!) from £257.3m to £278.2m, while revenue fell from £217.5m to £209.5m, a truly lefty business plan, let's spend our way out of trouble!
This time last year they had cash and equivalents of £841.9m, this year that figure stands at £771.3m, they have also written down their stake in Ascential from £319m to £206.2m.
Another couple of years like this and the model becomes unsustainable, I wouldn't be surprised if they try and flog themselves to the NYTimes.0 -
I tried to make the observation as neutral as I couldfelix said:
Lol - fair point but I'm not so grumpy and will cope very well in the future living here. not the case for all 'expats' though. Many are elderly, frail and on quite limited incomes - if they are forced to return they'd be a huge burden on the UK health and benefit system.John_M said:
You'll find that some of the grumpiest Remainers on this site are domiciled abroad, with income denominated in Sterling. Hence the saltiness.Moses_ said:
So you have been and are one of the most vociferous opponents on this site of the U.K people determining its own future and how it is governed .felix said:
Oh dear - if you think the damage will be limited to Europe you're in for a nasty shock - but it wasfunny to see you referring to constipation. Here in Spain almost all problems can be borne with 325 sunny days and prices even now 30% less than the UK.MonikerDiCanio said:
I don't know what you mean by "we", I've never even visited Spain.felix said:
It's true we're gonna be crapped on for the next few years.MonikerDiCanio said:
Amazing what's possible post-Brexit. The great national constipation is being purged.PlatoSaid said:Been a long time coming, but good news
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/america-to-end-ban-on-british-meat-h9nqwm39j
Now you openly admit you live in Spain ???You don't even live in this country???
M'kay
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At this point, I'm just going to play the cards as they are dealt. If Spain decides that it is in its national interest to repatriate British citizens, or elderly Brits desire to return home due to impoverishment, we'll take it from there. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof and all that.0 -
Reagan is interesting.weejonnie said:
A peanut farmer won a bit longer ago. However 'Bernie' lost while Trump won. (Usual occupation of POTUS is a Lawyer - at least recently, initially they tended to be farmers/ plantation owners.)CD13 said:The refrain on here is that Trump is absurd, idiotic, or straight forward mad. Although I'm no expert on US politics, my view is that he's none of those. He is a good politician, he knows what works with his voters. HRC is a poor politician, riding on the coat tails of connections and money.
Incidentally, I don't regard being a good politician as a compliment, but it's easy to make the old mistake of thinking that people who disagree with you must be wrong and/or stupid (the default setting for the "elite").
Trumps actual policies aren't extreme for the Republican party, it's only his manner and some of his pubic utterances that are designed to set up howls of rage from the that same elite. He's playing them like a violin.
He might win, he probably won't, but he's the Bernie of the GOP. And the public current mood in many countries is for an "outsider".
If he's elected, I suspect he'll be far more sensible than some think.
An actor won big not long ago. No one expected that either.
Edit: "If he's elected, I suspect he'll be far more sensible than some think." I wish I could say the same about Jezza.
An actor and President of the Screen Actors Guild. He was also a motivational speaker (says Wiki) in the 1950s.
But he did not switch from Democrat to Republican until he was in his 50s, and became Governor of Cali only 4 years later.
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It is of course historic that for the first time and a mere 41 years after the Tories elected their first woman leader that a US political party has nominated a woman as Presidential candidate.
I can't help feeling two things though:-
1. Hilary's desire for the Presidency seems at times to be part of the psychodrama of her marriage to Bill, as if she is entitled to this as some sort of reward for Bill's philandering.
2. Every time Bill speaks, I can't help feeling that the wrong Clinton has been chosen.
Ah well. She's probably better than Trump.
Still what a choice. At a time when real leadership across the Western world is needed, those in power or seeking power are third rate nonentities with no real leadership skills or all too willing to inflame passions and damn the consequences if it will bring them power.
We badly need good leaders.0 -
That would have the requiring 91 gains to teeter over the line. I agree SNP won't relinquish seats easily so you are looking at 80+ lab to con switches in circumstances where that will be harder. Labour have already lost 2 elections if they head markedly backwards at the next one it isn't the extra seats they lose that are the problem but those that have already gone down that become progressively harder to eat into. There are probably already 230-240 seats the Tories are highly unlikely to lose in one go, that will nudge towards 280-290 under current polling which should have Labour minds focused. That it doesn't is staggering!MaxPB said:Labour will need a minimum of 210 seats to have a shot at a majority in 2025. Dave made 96 gains at the end of 13 years of Labour government with the boundaries against him and he was a strong leader vs a weak one. I don't see how, under the new boundaries, Labour could hope to beat that even if everything went right and Brexit turns out to be an absolutely disaster with thr blame resting on the Tories. The other problem is that Labour will more than likely need direct Con -> Lab gains because I don't see the SNP losing more than a handful of seats in 2020 and the Lib Dems won't gain many either. The Tories won in 2015 by hollowing out rhe Lib Dems and holding the line against Labour. Labour don't have that easier option and must beat the Tories directly.
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A 541 parly is very unlikely under PM May.Pulpstar said:
I doubt the next non Conservative Gov't will be a Labour majority actually !TheScreamingEagles said:So PBers, what's the absolute minimum number of seats Labour needs to win in 2020 to have a realistic chance of winning a small majority (say 20 seat majority) in 2025.
I'm assuming 600 seat parliament from 2020 onwards.
Also we could have a 451541 parliament in 2025..
And hence very unlikely to be a factor in the 2025 GE.0 -
As I recall Labour in 2015 in England made a handful of net gains, the losses being in Scotland. The other component of the Tory majority was the near wipeout of the LDs across much of the UK.MaxPB said:Labour will need a minimum of 210 seats to have a shot at a majority in 2025. Dave made 96 gains at the end of 13 years of Labour government with the boundaries against him and he was a strong leader vs a weak one. I don't see how, under the new boundaries, Labour could hope to beat that even if everything went right and Brexit turns out to be an absolutely disaster with thr blame resting on the Tories. The other problem is that Labour will more than likely need direct Con -> Lab gains because I don't see the SNP losing more than a handful of seats in 2020 and the Lib Dems won't gain many either. The Tories won in 2015 by hollowing out rhe Lib Dems and holding the line against Labour. Labour don't have that easier option and must beat the Tories directly.
I did some sums on Electoral Calculus and even with Labour on 15% it still gave over 100 seats on current boundaries. The obliteration of Labour will be quite difficult. I can see perhaps 150 seats out of 600 under Jezza in 2020, but more significantly the entrenchment Momentum meaning that nobreturn to a parliamentary majority possible for decades.0 -
They would not be a huge burden at all, there are far to few of them for it to matter much.felix said:
Lol - fair point but I'm not so grumpy and will cope very well in the future living here. not the case for all 'expats' though. Many are elderly, frail and on quite limited incomes - if they are forced to return they'd be a huge burden on the UK health and benefit system.John_M said:
You'll find that some of the grumpiest Remainers on this site are domiciled abroad, with income denominated in Sterling. Hence the saltiness.Moses_ said:
So you have been and are one of the most vociferous opponents on this site of the U.K people determining its own future and how it is governed .felix said:
Oh dear - if you think the damage will be limited to Europe you're in for a nasty shock - but it wasfunny to see you referring to constipation. Here in Spain almost all problems can be borne with 325 sunny days and prices even now 30% less than the UK.MonikerDiCanio said:
I don't know what you mean by "we", I've never even visited Spain.felix said:
It's true we're gonna be crapped on for the next few years.MonikerDiCanio said:
Amazing what's possible post-Brexit. The great national constipation is being purged.PlatoSaid said:Been a long time coming, but good news
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/america-to-end-ban-on-british-meat-h9nqwm39j
Now you openly admit you live in Spain ???You don't even live in this country???
M'kay
Not that I think there is the slightest chance of them being forced to return. Elderly Brits lived abroad before 1973.0 -
Didn't Nick-Nack Paddywhack just do that?BannedInParis said:
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@BBCPhilipSim: Lord Turnbull has ruled against the #IndyCamp; he says it would not breach campers human rights for @ScotParl to evict them.
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I think the point is that British emigrés have had their income cut by ~8% due to the fall against the Euro, with likely more to come.HurstLlama said:
They would not be a huge burden at all, there are far to few of them for it to matter much.felix said:
Lol - fair point but I'm not so grumpy and will cope very well in the future living here. not the case for all 'expats' though. Many are elderly, frail and on quite limited incomes - if they are forced to return they'd be a huge burden on the UK health and benefit system.John_M said:
You'll find that some of the grumpiest Remainers on this site are domiciled abroad, with income denominated in Sterling. Hence the saltiness.Moses_ said:
So you have been and are one of the most vociferous opponents on this site of the U.K people determining its own future and how it is governed .felix said:
Oh dear - if you think the damage will be limited to Europe you're in for a nasty shock - but it wasfunny to see you referring to constipation. Here in Spain almost all problems can be borne with 325 sunny days and prices even now 30% less than the UK.MonikerDiCanio said:
I don't know what you mean by "we", I've never even visited Spain.felix said:
It's true we're gonna be crapped on for the next few years.MonikerDiCanio said:
Amazing what's possible post-Brexit. The great national constipation is being purged.PlatoSaid said:Been a long time coming, but good news
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/america-to-end-ban-on-british-meat-h9nqwm39j
Now you openly admit you live in Spain ???You don't even live in this country???
M'kay
Not that I think there is the slightest chance of them being forced to return. Elderly Brits lived abroad before 1973.
It's interesting that there are 100k fewer Brits in Spain now than in 2012.0 -
Apparently Owen Smith is giving a "major" speech...
https://twitter.com/sean_kemp/status/7582450660497489920 -
@SophyRidgeSky: Owen Smith says he wants to "smash austerity" & replace the Dpt of Work & Pensions with a Ministry of Labour https://t.co/MAr9CZxXqh0
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Off topic: I noticed from last night's thread a lot of good natured sneering at the backward state of the Southern Italian economy and its politics. All very true, no doubt.
And yet, remember, that the vast corruption uncovered in the 1990's by Operazione Mani Pulite was found in Milan and spread its tentacles all across the business and political establishment of the oh-so-superior North.
Those in glasshouses etc.......0 -
I'd like to know what the actual fuck 'privatising the national debt' is supposed to mean.Scott_P said:@SophyRidgeSky: Owen Smith says he wants to "smash austerity" & replace the Dpt of Work & Pensions with a Ministry of Labour https://t.co/MAr9CZxXqh
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One hopes that both sides will be sensible. Spain may try to be silly by involving Gibraltar in the discussions [ mind you if you've been there, apart from the weather its a pretty naff dump!] while the UK has David Davis - although to be fair so far he's still sounding mostly sane.John_M said:
I tried to make the observation as neutral as I couldfelix said:
Lol - fair point but I'm not so grumpy and will cope very well in the future living here. not the case for all 'expats' though. Many are elderly, frail and on quite limited incomes - if they are forced to return they'd be a huge burden on the UK health and benefit system.John_M said:
You'll find that some of the grumpiest Remainers on this site are domiciled abroad, with income denominated in Sterling. Hence the saltiness.Moses_ said:
So you have been and are one of the most vociferous opponents on this site of the U.K people determining its own future and how it is governed .felix said:
Oh dear - if you think the damage will be limited to Europe you're in for a nasty shock - but it wasfunny to see you referring to constipation. Here in Spain almost all problems can be borne with 325 sunny days and prices even now 30% less than the UK.MonikerDiCanio said:
I don't know what you mean by "we", I've never even visited Spain.felix said:
It's true we're gonna be crapped on for the next few years.MonikerDiCanio said:
Amazing what's possible post-Brexit. The great national constipation is being purged.PlatoSaid said:Been a long time coming, but good news
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/america-to-end-ban-on-british-meat-h9nqwm39j
Now you openly admit you live in Spain ???You don't even live in this country???
M'kay.
At this point, I'm just going to play the cards as they are dealt. If Spain decides that it is in its national interest to repatriate British citizens, or elderly Brits desire to return home due to impoverishment, we'll take it from there. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof and all that. 0 -
Although those datasets should be treated with a large degree of caution. Let me give you an example. When I worked at Goldman Sachs, I was technically an employee of Goldman Sachs Services Ltd, on secondment to another company (who's name I forget). There were literally hundreds of companies under the Goldman Sachs International Ltd umbrella. And most of them didn't export.John_M said:Discovered something interesting on the ONS site. Only 15.2% of all UK companies do any international trade of any sort, either EU or RoW.
Only 40% of large (>250 folk) companies export. For small businesses (<50 folk) the ratio is even lower, just 10.2%.</p>
(Why so many firms? My guess was to use limited liability cover to ensure that problems in one part might be firewalled. But that's only a guess.)0 -
Just as a gazillion US flags & a mega screen 'is' Trump, this backdrop just screams Owen Smith.Scott_P said:Apparently Owen Smith is giving a "major" speech...
https://twitter.com/sean_kemp/status/7582450660497489920 -
His brief speech at the convention after losing the nomination in 76 was one of those moments when people realised they picked the wrong man.MattW said:
Reagan is interesting.weejonnie said:
A peanut farmer won a bit longer ago. However 'Bernie' lost while Trump won. (Usual occupation of POTUS is a Lawyer - at least recently, initially they tended to be farmers/ plantation owners.)CD13 said:The refrain on here is that Trump is absurd, idiotic, or straight forward mad. Although I'm no expert on US politics, my view is that he's none of those. He is a good politician, he knows what works with his voters. HRC is a poor politician, riding on the coat tails of connections and money.
Incidentally, I don't regard being a good politician as a compliment, but it's easy to make the old mistake of thinking that people who disagree with you must be wrong and/or stupid (the default setting for the "elite").
Trumps actual policies aren't extreme for the Republican party, it's only his manner and some of his pubic utterances that are designed to set up howls of rage from the that same elite. He's playing them like a violin.
He might win, he probably won't, but he's the Bernie of the GOP. And the public current mood in many countries is for an "outsider".
If he's elected, I suspect he'll be far more sensible than some think.
An actor won big not long ago. No one expected that either.
Edit: "If he's elected, I suspect he'll be far more sensible than some think." I wish I could say the same about Jezza.
An actor and President of the Screen Actors Guild. He was also a motivational speaker (says Wiki) in the 1950s.
But he did not switch from Democrat to Republican until he was in his 50s, and became Governor of Cali only 4 years later.
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Hmm - there are several hundred thousand in Spain alone - I didn't realise the NHS was quite so unburdened or local council care homes.HurstLlama said:
They would not be a huge burden at all, there are far to few of them for it to matter much.felix said:
Lol - fair point but I'm not so grumpy and will cope very well in the future living here. not the case for all 'expats' though. Many are elderly, frail and on quite limited incomes - if they are forced to return they'd be a huge burden on the UK health and benefit system.John_M said:
You'll find that some of the grumpiest Remainers on this site are domiciled abroad, with income denominated in Sterling. Hence the saltiness.Moses_ said:
So you have been and are one of the most vociferous opponents on this site of the U.K people determining its own future and how it is governed .felix said:
Oh dear - if you think the damage will be limited to Europe you're in for a nasty shock - but it wasfunny to see you referring to constipation. Here in Spain almost all problems can be borne with 325 sunny days and prices even now 30% less than the UK.MonikerDiCanio said:
I don't know what you mean by "we", I've never even visited Spain.felix said:
It's true we're gonna be crapped on for the next few years.MonikerDiCanio said:
Amazing what's possible post-Brexit. The great national constipation is being purged.PlatoSaid said:Been a long time coming, but good news
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/america-to-end-ban-on-british-meat-h9nqwm39j
Now you openly admit you live in Spain ???You don't even live in this country???
M'kay
Not that I think there is the slightest chance of them being forced to return. Elderly Brits lived abroad before 1973.0 -
Vintage David BrentTheuniondivvie said:Just as a gazillion US flags & a mega screen 'is' Trump, this backdrop just screams Owen Smith.
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Idiot - thankfully he will be returned to obscurity come the end of September.Scott_P said:@SophyRidgeSky: Owen Smith says he wants to "smash austerity" & replace the Dpt of Work & Pensions with a Ministry of Labour https://t.co/MAr9CZxXqh
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@PeterMannionMP: Owen Smith says he'd create a new 'Shadow Secretary of State for Labour' ..or it might have been 'Shadow Secretary for State of Labour'.0
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He's going to give hope to middle managers everywhere that one day we might run the countryTheuniondivvie said:
Just as a gazillion US flags & a mega screen 'is' Trump, this backdrop just screams Owen Smith.Scott_P said:Apparently Owen Smith is giving a "major" speech...
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The reason the press is dying is simple. There is very little in most newspapers which is worth reading, let alone paying for. Most of the articles are superficial and uninteresting. And the columnists, with one or two exceptions, are dire.OldKingCole said:
Thanks. Mixed picture, isn’t it! Wonder whether the run-up to the General Election had an effect.TCPoliticalBetting said:
http://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/times-newspapers-profits-near-11-million-paywall-offsets-ad-decline/1388802#OldKingCole said:
I really don’t see a long-term market for paid-for print NEWSpapers. Or even a medium term one, unless they’re “quick and easy", like the i. Magazines are possibly safer, and possibly, too, the big weekend editions with lots of specialist sections.TCPoliticalBetting said:
"The Guardian retains cash and investments of £765m, down from £838.3m last year, and its stake in Ascential was worth £206m in April following the writedown."PlatoSaid said:Yowser
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jul/27/guardian-losses-members
Guardian's losses hit £69m but it gains more than 50,000 paying members
I remember when annual losses in the operating business was £50m a year and they promised to cut that back. Last year they lost £69m. This cash mountain is falling quickly. I wonder when they will end printing.
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On the point with regard to pre-1973 I think the past 20 years have seen many more relatively poorer Brits emigrating to Europe most of whom, eg currently access the Spanish NHS. The comparison is really not valid in terms of numbers or type.HurstLlama said:
They would not be a huge burden at all, there are far to few of them for it to matter much.felix said:
Lol - fair point but I'm not so grumpy and will cope very well in the future living here. not the case for all 'expats' though. Many are elderly, frail and on quite limited incomes - if they are forced to return they'd be a huge burden on the UK health and benefit system.John_M said:
You'll find that some of the grumpiest Remainers on this site are domiciled abroad, with income denominated in Sterling. Hence the saltiness.Moses_ said:
So you have been and are one of the most vociferous opponents on this site of the U.K people determining its own future and how it is governed .felix said:
Oh dear - if you think the damage will be limited to Europe you're in for a nasty shock - but it wasfunny to see you referring to constipation. Here in Spain almost all problems can be borne with 325 sunny days and prices even now 30% less than the UK.MonikerDiCanio said:
I don't know what you mean by "we", I've never even visited Spain.felix said:
It's true we're gonna be crapped on for the next few years.MonikerDiCanio said:
Amazing what's possible post-Brexit. The great national constipation is being purged.PlatoSaid said:Been a long time coming, but good news
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/america-to-end-ban-on-british-meat-h9nqwm39j
Now you openly admit you live in Spain ???You don't even live in this country???
M'kay
Not that I think there is the slightest chance of them being forced to return. Elderly Brits lived abroad before 1973.0 -
Isn't the national debt always privatised? In sense that individuals or pension schemes buy gilts.John_M said:
I'd like to know what the actual fuck 'privatising the national debt' is supposed to mean.Scott_P said:@SophyRidgeSky: Owen Smith says he wants to "smash austerity" & replace the Dpt of Work & Pensions with a Ministry of Labour https://t.co/MAr9CZxXqh
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In fairness, I treat most data with caution, because we're not seeing the raw inputs.rcs1000 said:
Although those datasets should be treated with a large degree of caution. Let me give you an example. When I worked at Goldman Sachs, I was technically an employee of Goldman Sachs Services Ltd, on secondment to another company (who's name I forget). There were literally hundreds of companies under the Goldman Sachs International Ltd umbrella. And most of them didn't export.John_M said:Discovered something interesting on the ONS site. Only 15.2% of all UK companies do any international trade of any sort, either EU or RoW.
Only 40% of large (>250 folk) companies export. For small businesses (<50 folk) the ratio is even lower, just 10.2%.</p>
(Why so many firms? My guess was to use limited liability cover to ensure that problems in one part might be firewalled. But that's only a guess.)
ONS data is based on the Annual Business Survey, which is based on a sample of 64k companies. Considering there are 5.4 million registered businesses (4.1 million of whom are one-man bands or partnerships), it's a pretty small sample.
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@BBCVickiYoung: And @OwenSmith_MP pledges to "fix NHS" by spending an extra 4% a year, paid for by 50p top tax rate, wealth tax & no more cuts to corp tax
Clearly he thinks a 16 point Tory lead in the polls is too low...0 -
What is a 541 Party svp0
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Yes - the 2008 property crash has had a big impact - especially for those working abroad. Pensioners have been more insulated although very low sterling rates 2008-12 made life tough for many of them too. The 'real' figures are quite difficult as many never register as either leaving the UK or becoming resident in Spain!John_M said:
I think the point is that British emigrés have had their income cut by ~8% due to the fall against the Euro, with likely more to come.HurstLlama said:
They would not be a huge burden at all, there are far to few of them for it to matter much.felix said:
Lol - fair point but I'm not so grumpy and will cope very well in the future living here. not the case for all 'expats' though. Many are elderly, frail and on quite limited incomes - if they are forced to return they'd be a huge burden on the UK health and benefit system.John_M said:
You'll find that some of the grumpiest Remainers on this site are domiciled abroad, with income denominated in Sterling. Hence the saltiness.Moses_ said:
So you have been and are one of the most vociferous opponents on this site of the U.K people determining its own future and how it is governed .felix said:
Oh dear - if you think the damage will be limited to Europe you're in for a nasty shock - but it wasfunny to see you referring to constipation. Here in Spain almost all problems can be borne with 325 sunny days and prices even now 30% less than the UK.MonikerDiCanio said:
I don't know what you mean by "we", I've never even visited Spain.felix said:
It's true we're gonna be crapped on for the next few years.MonikerDiCanio said:
Amazing what's possible post-Brexit. The great national constipation is being purged.PlatoSaid said:Been a long time coming, but good news
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/america-to-end-ban-on-british-meat-h9nqwm39j
Now you openly admit you live in Spain ???You don't even live in this country???
M'kay
Not that I think there is the slightest chance of them being forced to return. Elderly Brits lived abroad before 1973.
It's interesting that there are 100k fewer Brits in Spain now than in 2012.0 -
541 Parly if Scotland gets Indy.SquareRoot said:What is a 541 Party svp
Which isn't happening any time soon.0 -
I'm baffled. I'm not trying to make any particular point. I can parse the sentence but my brain just goes 'wtf?'.rottenborough said:
Isn't the national debt always privatised? In sense that individuals or pension schemes buy gilts.John_M said:
I'd like to know what the actual fuck 'privatising the national debt' is supposed to mean.Scott_P said:@SophyRidgeSky: Owen Smith says he wants to "smash austerity" & replace the Dpt of Work & Pensions with a Ministry of Labour https://t.co/MAr9CZxXqh
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Back to the 40's with Labour - what a shambles.SimonStClare said:
Idiot - thankfully he will be returned to obscurity come the end of September.Scott_P said:@SophyRidgeSky: Owen Smith says he wants to "smash austerity" & replace the Dpt of Work & Pensions with a Ministry of Labour https://t.co/MAr9CZxXqh
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Not saying much then?felix said:
One hopes that both sides will be sensible. Spain may try to be silly by involving Gibraltar in the discussions [ mind you if you've been there, apart from the weather its a pretty naff dump!] while the UK has David Davis - although to be fair so far he's still sounding mostly sane.John_M said:
I tried to make the observation as neutral as I couldfelix said:
Lol - fair point but I'm not so grumpy and will cope very well in the future living here. not the case for all 'expats' though. Many are elderly, frail and on quite limited incomes - if they are forced to return they'd be a huge burden on the UK health and benefit system.John_M said:
You'll find that some of the grumpiest Remainers on this site are domiciled abroad, with income denominated in Sterling. Hence the saltiness.Moses_ said:
So you have been and are one of the most vociferous opponents on this site of the U.K people determining its own future and how it is governed .felix said:
Oh dear - if you think the damage will be limited to Europe you're in for a nasty shock - but it wasfunny to see you referring to constipation. Here in Spain almost all problems can be borne with 325 sunny days and prices even now 30% less than the UK.MonikerDiCanio said:
I don't know what you mean by "we", I've never even visited Spain.felix said:
It's true we're gonna be crapped on for the next few years.MonikerDiCanio said:
Amazing what's possible post-Brexit. The great national constipation is being purged.PlatoSaid said:Been a long time coming, but good news
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/america-to-end-ban-on-british-meat-h9nqwm39j
Now you openly admit you live in Spain ???You don't even live in this country???
M'kay.
At this point, I'm just going to play the cards as they are dealt. If Spain decides that it is in its national interest to repatriate British citizens, or elderly Brits desire to return home due to impoverishment, we'll take it from there. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof and all that.0 -
I really want Woolfe to be ineligible now
@JamieRoss7:Coburn says he WILL stand for UKIP leader if Steven Woolfe can't, but says reports Woolfe is ineligible are probably "absolute nonsense".0 -
Indeed Smith sounds a bit clueless to me.rottenborough said:
Isn't the national debt always privatised? In sense that individuals or pension schemes buy gilts.John_M said:
I'd like to know what the actual fuck 'privatising the national debt' is supposed to mean.Scott_P said:@SophyRidgeSky: Owen Smith says he wants to "smash austerity" & replace the Dpt of Work & Pensions with a Ministry of Labour https://t.co/MAr9CZxXqh
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One has to be kind - he went through a pretty odd phase a few years back.DavidL said:
Not saying much then?felix said:
One hopes that both sides will be sensible. Spain may try to be silly by involving Gibraltar in the discussions [ mind you if you've been there, apart from the weather its a pretty naff dump!] while the UK has David Davis - although to be fair so far he's still sounding mostly sane.John_M said:
I tried to make the observation as neutral as I couldfelix said:
Lol - fair point but I'm not so grumpy and will cope very well in the future living here. not the case for all 'expats' though. Many are elderly, frail and on quite limited incomes - if they are forced to return they'd be a huge burden on the UK health and benefit system.John_M said:
You'll find that some of the grumpiest Remainers on this site are domiciled abroad, with income denominated in Sterling. Hence the saltiness.Moses_ said:
So you have been and are one of the most vociferous opponents on this site of the U.K people determining its own future and how it is governed .felix said:
Oh dear - if you think the damage will be limited to Europe you're in for a nasty shock - but it wasfunny to see you referring to constipation. Here in Spain almost all problems can be borne with 325 sunny days and prices even now 30% less than the UK.MonikerDiCanio said:
I don't know what you mean by "we", I've never even visited Spain.felix said:
It's true we're gonna be crapped on for the next few years.MonikerDiCanio said:
Amazing what's possible post-Brexit. The great national constipation is being purged.PlatoSaid said:Been a long time coming, but good news
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/america-to-end-ban-on-british-meat-h9nqwm39j
Now you openly admit you live in Spain ???You don't even live in this country???
M'kay.
At this point, I'm just going to play the cards as they are dealt. If Spain decides that it is in its national interest to repatriate British citizens, or elderly Brits desire to return home due to impoverishment, we'll take it from there. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof and all that. 0 -
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@SophyRidgeSky: Owen Smith says of Theresa May that it "pained" him Labour didn't have the power "to smash her back on her heels"
@paulwaugh: Looks like the 'smash her back on her heels' line re Theresa May was not in the speech text, Smith went off-script for that one.
How long until he has to "clarify" that one...0
