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Mr. Pulpstar, I believe in the equality of all Britons. This idea of Scottish supremacy via a veto over the majority is as mad as Honorius' approach to governing.0
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Uncle Len's intv http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/22/intelligence-services-using-dark-practices-against-jeremy-corbyn
“We found out just a couple of years ago that the chair of my union then, the Transport and General Workers Union, was an MI5 informant at the time that there was a strike taking place that I personally as a worker was involved in. [In] 1972, I was on strike for six weeks. And 30 years later it comes out that the chair of my union at that time was an MI5 informant.”0 -
Does Unite represent Tin Foil Hat Makers?0
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The big polling leads for Clinton have mostly disappeared:
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One wonders, on what topic will our friends turn out to be so badly wrong, next time?MP_SE said:
Embarrassing stuff.runnymede said:Remember how the PB Remainers kept telling us how useless the LEAVE campaign was compared to the PR geniuses behind REMAIN?
Titter....
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Probably just a traditional Middle Eastern wedding.ThreeQuidder said:Here we go again...
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Visa restrictions on Turkey still set to be diminished, according to Neil:
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Without all those main articles on the uselessness of the LEAVE campaign.... what would we have done with our time?runnymede said:Remember how the PB Remainers kept telling us how useless the LEAVE campaign was compared to the PR geniuses behind REMAIN?
Titter....
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/epicfail-how-britain-stronger-europe-blew-basics-pr-marketing-hind
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Imagine any of the old fashioned satirical shows back this year. Mock the Week isn't really a substitute!rottenborough said:I'll say this, after today's events in Labour I really, really miss Spitting Image.
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Mr. Betting, we could've spent it productively, discussing which of the Diadochi was best.0
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Welsh Labour are trying hard to lose a large chunk of their supporters. They are close to the tipping point when they would lose many seats.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. P, unsurprising (amused at the Welsh, though).
May should tell them to piss off. I think a UK-wide vote is debatable. One part of the country (or three parts) having veto power over the majority is indefensible.0 -
Mr. Betting, are UKIP in a position to take advantage, or would such seats drift to the Conservatives?0
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Here we go again.....0
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There was definitely a bit of this about - things that happened in the past will have shaped McCluskey's thought processes. But leave him looking rather ridiculous today.PlatoSaid said:Uncle Len's intv http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/22/intelligence-services-using-dark-practices-against-jeremy-corbyn
“We found out just a couple of years ago that the chair of my union then, the Transport and General Workers Union, was an MI5 informant at the time that there was a strike taking place that I personally as a worker was involved in. [In] 1972, I was on strike for six weeks. And 30 years later it comes out that the chair of my union at that time was an MI5 informant.”
Father of a friend of mine was an informant on union activity for an intelligence agency back in the 80s, FWIW.0 -
At least it would not be about Hannibal. This website's main writers became part of the establishment for 4 months. Not good for contrarian thinking.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Betting, we could've spent it productively, discussing which of the Diadochi was best.
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Local German media saying multiple deaths. Sky.0
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When is this going to end.0
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Given the demographic changes in Germany. Never.MaxPB said:When is this going to end.
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Mr. Betting, I have a soft spot for Antigonus Monopthalmus, who seemed to be almost the only Diadochus [if I got the singular right] who got on really well with his son.
Slightly frustratingly, of the three books I've read there has been quite a lot of overlap and each offers something the others don't, but none was quite the comprehensive work I'd like.
[There is one I don't own called Dividing the Spoils, but the author uses Common Era. I'm somewhat wary of an author who wishes to impose revisionist tosh on the calendar].0 -
When I moved into the Monmouth constituency it was a Labour marginal (384 maj). It's solidly back to Conservative (c. 11k maj). It's a traditionally Conservative seat mind, but the sitting MP has improved his majority twice.TCPoliticalBetting said:
Welsh Labour are trying hard to lose a large chunk of their supporters. They are close to the tipping point when they would lose many seats.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. P, unsurprising (amused at the Welsh, though).
May should tell them to piss off. I think a UK-wide vote is debatable. One part of the country (or three parts) having veto power over the majority is indefensible.0 -
Worth waiting for confirmation, even if the first assumption about Munich may well be right. Could be a Breivik-type scenario.0
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UKIP are showing signs of falling apart with Mr Hamilton but a new national Leader may fix things. The Welsh Conservatives under a Brexit Leader are ideally placed. Two parties chasing the majority LEAVE vote and 3-4 parties chasing the REMAIN vote.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Betting, are UKIP in a position to take advantage, or would such seats drift to the Conservatives?
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Please, not again.0
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Yokel on here has said on multiple occasions (including after the train slashing) that was small fry & IS have big plans for Germany.SouthamObserver said:Please, not again.
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Mr. Betting, ah, sounds a bit like Scotland writ small. Cheers for the concise explanation.0
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Couldn't agree more.rottenborough said:I'll say this, after today's events in Labour I really, really miss Spitting Image.
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Totally off topic. Lancaster bomber just flew over0
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Mr. 64, they're a bit late...0
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It's easy to assume that if the attacks are not that close together then they probably haven't got that many people. If they start to become more frequent, the pressure on governments to act will grow immensely.FrancisUrquhart said:
Yokel on here has said on multiple occasions (including after the train slashing) that was small fry & IS have big plans for Germany.SouthamObserver said:Please, not again.
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There's the convention bounce...?AndyJS said:The big polling leads for Clinton have mostly disappeared:
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#BREAKING More than 10,000 passports cancelled due to flight risk: Turkish minister0
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They over looked one obvious thing- why the Leave Vote campaign was red.runnymede said:Remember how the PB Remainers kept telling us how useless the LEAVE campaign was compared to the PR geniuses behind REMAIN?
Titter....
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/epicfail-how-britain-stronger-europe-blew-basics-pr-marketing-hind0 -
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UPDATE: One dead, 10 injured in shooting at #Munich shopping centre: police source - AFP0 -
Heading towards scotland.....Morris_Dancer said:Mr. 64, they're a bit late...
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Mr. Jim, given 60,000 or so people have been arrested, fired or suspended, 10,000 cancelled passports seems a little on the low side.0
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That's mentioned in one of the other articles linked to at the bottom: https://www.creativereview.co.uk/cr-blog/2016/july/brexit-how-design-made-the-difference/ ("Seeing red").nunu said:
They over looked one obvious thing- why the Leave Vote campaign was red.runnymede said:Remember how the PB Remainers kept telling us how useless the LEAVE campaign was compared to the PR geniuses behind REMAIN?
Titter....
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/epicfail-how-britain-stronger-europe-blew-basics-pr-marketing-hind0 -
This seems peculiar to me.
Anti-terror police in France have had a request of theirs rejected. That request? The deletion of footage of the Nice attack. City authorities have refused, on the rather reasonable grounds it may be evidence:
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I'm not sure what dating convention was used by the Hellenistic Greeks. AUC would obviously be an anachronism.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Betting, I have a soft spot for Antigonus Monopthalmus, who seemed to be almost the only Diadochus [if I got the singular right] who got on really well with his son.
Slightly frustratingly, of the three books I've read there has been quite a lot of overlap and each offers something the others don't, but none was quite the comprehensive work I'd like.
[There is one I don't own called Dividing the Spoils, but the author uses Common Era. I'm somewhat wary of an author who wishes to impose revisionist tosh on the calendar].0 -
He seems to know a lot..........FrancisUrquhart said:
Yokel on here has said on multiple occasions (including after the train slashing) that was small fry & IS have big plans for Germany.SouthamObserver said:Please, not again.
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Is there a coup on ?paulyork64 said:Totally off topic. Lancaster bomber just flew over
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Indeed, quite extraordinary, or has it just been a witch hunt in Lagarde's case?Carolus_Rex said:I suppose we shouldn't prejudge the outcome of the Lagarde case but taking this together with the circumstances in which her predecessor had to step down, you have to wonder what kind of recruitment process the IMF uses for its senior staff.
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Given previous form over the centuries when that lot have taken exception to minorities, I fear for the future in a rather different way. Enough of this and Germany's version of Fronte Nationale will start harvesting votes in a big way, although I can't see such a party getting a majority ( that said, Hitler didn't get one either he basically staged a coup after becoming the largest party but well short of a majority)FrancisUrquhart said:
Given the demographic changes in Germany. Never.MaxPB said:When is this going to end.
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We know that more recently, police pretended to be environmental activists and maintained intimate relations with women activists for a decade. Again, infiltration by state security and safety forces seems to be par for the course in trade unions and left activism. Probably not in investment banks, though.MyBurningEars said:
There was definitely a bit of this about - things that happened in the past will have shaped McCluskey's thought processes. But leave him looking rather ridiculous today.PlatoSaid said:Uncle Len's intv http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/22/intelligence-services-using-dark-practices-against-jeremy-corbyn
“We found out just a couple of years ago that the chair of my union then, the Transport and General Workers Union, was an MI5 informant at the time that there was a strike taking place that I personally as a worker was involved in. [In] 1972, I was on strike for six weeks. And 30 years later it comes out that the chair of my union at that time was an MI5 informant.”
Father of a friend of mine was an informant on union activity for an intelligence agency back in the 80s, FWIW.0 -
Reports claim the shooting is over, - 1 dead and 10 injured, no detail so far on the perp.0
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Mr. Lilburne, I'm not sure either. May have varied from city to city.
[Although the Diadochi were, of course, Macedonian (excepting if you count Eumenes of Cardia) it was Greeks who wrote the history, primarily Hieronymus of Cardia].0 -
Obama on Trump - "This vision of violence and chaos everywhere doesn't jibe with most people's experience."
Bad timing for that remark...0 -
I expect a poster here is one of the Queens Men, along with most forums.EPG said:
We know that more recently, police pretended to be environmental activists and maintained intimate relations with women activists for a decade. Again, infiltration by state security and safety forces seems to be par for the course in trade unions and left activism. Probably not in investment banks, though.MyBurningEars said:
There was definitely a bit of this about - things that happened in the past will have shaped McCluskey's thought processes. But leave him looking rather ridiculous today.PlatoSaid said:Uncle Len's intv http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/22/intelligence-services-using-dark-practices-against-jeremy-corbyn
“We found out just a couple of years ago that the chair of my union then, the Transport and General Workers Union, was an MI5 informant at the time that there was a strike taking place that I personally as a worker was involved in. [In] 1972, I was on strike for six weeks. And 30 years later it comes out that the chair of my union at that time was an MI5 informant.”
Father of a friend of mine was an informant on union activity for an intelligence agency back in the 80s, FWIW.0 -
Mr Dancer, the French have always been peculiar.Morris_Dancer said:This seems peculiar to me.
Anti-terror police in France have had a request of theirs rejected. That request? The deletion of footage of the Nice attack. City authorities have refused, on the rather reasonable grounds it may be evidence:
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Yes, but it was always going to have a limited scope. Applied to about 1.5m people who would have been awarded visas anyway.Morris_Dancer said:Visa restrictions on Turkey still set to be diminished, according to Neil:
https://twitter.com/afneil/status/756521086079172608
In any case, what options do the EU have ? If they renege on their commitment, Turkey could take away the naval ships and the coast guards !0 -
What a disaster. Election being decided by people rather than archaic maths that gives votes to farmland..ThreeQuidder said:
I'm not sure that would help much, it would likely switch the campaigning from perceived swing states to big metropolitan areas. A quarter of the US population live in just 10 conurbations (NY, LA, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Washington, Philly, Miami, Atlanta, Boston) - and half in the top 44 (some of which really are merged, such as SF and San Jose).NeilVW said:
That would be logical and much preferable in my opinion. You might be interested in this:Thrak said:
Its no wonder they get such poor turnout figures, given how so much of the count is alreadyHYUFD said:With Trump clearly pitching for the white blue collar vote in a tight national race he probably wins Ohio and North Carolina and Florida and maybe NH and Hillary needs to win Iowa, Nevada and Colorado and Virginia, hence she picks Kaine. The election is then decided in Pennsylvania and Philadelphia and its suburbs v the more rural, rustbelt parts of the state
decided. Why not switch to the winner of the national vote?
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Wasn't Strauss-Kahn the victim of a witch hunt too?peter_from_putney said:
Indeed, quite extraordinary, or has it just been a witch hunt in Lagarde's case?Carolus_Rex said:I suppose we shouldn't prejudge the outcome of the Lagarde case but taking this together with the circumstances in which her predecessor had to step down, you have to wonder what kind of recruitment process the IMF uses for its senior staff.
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Mr. B, you may very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.0
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They won't do that now. Otherwise the people who have had their passports confiscated will all be heading for Greek Islands of the Turkish coast...surbiton said:
Yes, but it was always going to have a limited scope. Applied to about 1.5m people who would have been awarded visas anyway.Morris_Dancer said:Visa restrictions on Turkey still set to be diminished, according to Neil:
https://twitter.com/afneil/status/756521086079172608
In any case, what options do the EU have ? If they renege on their commitment, Turkey could take away the naval ships and the coast guards !0 -
The people it will apply to probably won't have passports much longer anyway so it may be academic.surbiton said:
Yes, but it was always going to have a limited scope. Applied to about 1.5m people who would have been awarded visas anyway.Morris_Dancer said:Visa restrictions on Turkey still set to be diminished, according to Neil:
https://twitter.com/afneil/status/756521086079172608
In any case, what options do the EU have ? If they renege on their commitment, Turkey could take away the naval ships and the coast guards !0 -
Chris Ship
Germany's @Abendzeitung reports up to 15 killed in the Muncich shooting0 -
Mr. Surbiton, well, quite.
Once someone dons the gimp suit and is chained to the radiator, their negotiating leverage declines to a remarkable extent.0 -
Given what is on twitter, that looks sadly believable.PlatoSaid said:Chris Ship
Germany's @Abendzeitung reports up to 15 killed in the Muncich shooting0 -
The only coups in yorkshire are from the pigeons.surbiton said:
Is there a coup on ?paulyork64 said:Totally off topic. Lancaster bomber just flew over
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Is that the reason why we are spending £200 bn to build 40 large tubes ?Paul_Bedfordshire said:
Given previous form over the centuries when that lot have taken exception to minorities, I fear for the future in a rather different way. Enough of this and Germany's version of Fronte Nationale will start harvesting votes in a big way, although I can't see such a party getting a majority ( that said, Hitler didn't get one either he basically staged a coup after becoming the largest party but well short of a majority)FrancisUrquhart said:
Given the demographic changes in Germany. Never.MaxPB said:When is this going to end.
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?surbiton said:
Is that the reason why we are spending £200 bn to build 40 large tubes ?Paul_Bedfordshire said:
Given previous form over the centuries when that lot have taken exception to minorities, I fear for the future in a rather different way. Enough of this and Germany's version of Fronte Nationale will start harvesting votes in a big way, although I can't see such a party getting a majority ( that said, Hitler didn't get one either he basically staged a coup after becoming the largest party but well short of a majority)FrancisUrquhart said:
Given the demographic changes in Germany. Never.MaxPB said:When is this going to end.
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Haven't the police just said 1 dead and 10 wounded? Are the local press are wrong or are the police not being truthful?0
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Michael Smith
#MUNICH Video of scene of attack is being spread on IS-linked Telegram channels https://t.co/tFB0oaRmT90 -
Their over analysing it. You can't have blue in a campaign dominated by the Tories, you need Labour red to appeal to wwc. That's it. Lol.ThreeQuidder said:
That's mentioned in one of the other articles linked to at the bottom: https://www.creativereview.co.uk/cr-blog/2016/july/brexit-how-design-made-the-difference/ ("Seeing red").nunu said:
They over looked one obvious thing- why the Leave Vote campaign was red.runnymede said:Remember how the PB Remainers kept telling us how useless the LEAVE campaign was compared to the PR geniuses behind REMAIN?
Titter....
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/epicfail-how-britain-stronger-europe-blew-basics-pr-marketing-hind0 -
AFP is reporting the 1 dead and 10 wounded as well.The_Apocalypse said:Haven't the police just said 1 dead and 10 wounded? Either way the local press are wrong or the police aren't being truthful.
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Alas the police won't state anything other than officially confirmed deaths, ie certified by a doctor. That takes time.The_Apocalypse said:Haven't the police just said 1 dead and 10 wounded? Either way the local press are wrong or the police aren't being truthful.
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Trident.Paul_Bedfordshire said:
?surbiton said:
Is that the reason why we are spending £200 bn to build 40 large tubes ?Paul_Bedfordshire said:
Given previous form over the centuries when that lot have taken exception to minorities, I fear for the future in a rather different way. Enough of this and Germany's version of Fronte Nationale will start harvesting votes in a big way, although I can't see such a party getting a majority ( that said, Hitler didn't get one either he basically staged a coup after becoming the largest party but well short of a majority)FrancisUrquhart said:
Given the demographic changes in Germany. Never.MaxPB said:When is this going to end.
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They won't be academics for long...williamglenn said:
The people it will apply to probably won't have passports much longer anyway so it may be academic.surbiton said:
Yes, but it was always going to have a limited scope. Applied to about 1.5m people who would have been awarded visas anyway.Morris_Dancer said:Visa restrictions on Turkey still set to be diminished, according to Neil:
https://twitter.com/afneil/status/756521086079172608
In any case, what options do the EU have ? If they renege on their commitment, Turkey could take away the naval ships and the coast guards !0 -
Thats the figure CND have come up with.surbiton said:
Trident.Paul_Bedfordshire said:
?surbiton said:
Is that the reason why we are spending £200 bn to build 40 large tubes ?Paul_Bedfordshire said:
Given previous form over the centuries when that lot have taken exception to minorities, I fear for the future in a rather different way. Enough of this and Germany's version of Fronte Nationale will start harvesting votes in a big way, although I can't see such a party getting a majority ( that said, Hitler didn't get one either he basically staged a coup after becoming the largest party but well short of a majority)FrancisUrquhart said:
Given the demographic changes in Germany. Never.MaxPB said:When is this going to end.
Real figure is £25-31 billion
Compared with Hinkley Point it looks good value...
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Twitter poster now claiming unconfirmed reports of a second shooting in Munich and people still in shopping centre.
Looks grim.0 -
Last five days - French mother and daughters stabbed, axe attack, RAF attempted kidnapping and now this.0
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I suppose with ISIS controlled territory being slowly taken back in Iraq by Iraq army with US support and in Syria by Syrian army with Russian support and now getting to the stage where complete overrun of Isis in Iraq and Syria is inevitable, it was fairly likely that this sort of Gotterdamerung strategy would ensure.PlatoSaid said:Last five days - French mother and daughters stabbed, axe attack, RAF attempted kidnapping and now this.
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Miss Plato, I was surprised the stabbing didn't make the evening news that day (BBC).
I wonder if Merkel's as guaranteed for re-election as people think.0 -
#Breaking Video of suspect shooting in #Munich : Unverified https://t.co/Du467cjYTd0
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I'd be surprised if there was much active surveillance of the trade unions today, but wouldn't surprise me if the SWP and some other members of the "revolutionary" left still had an eye kept on them from the inside.EPG said:
We know that more recently, police pretended to be environmental activists and maintained intimate relations with women activists for a decade. Again, infiltration by state security and safety forces seems to be par for the course in trade unions and left activism. Probably not in investment banks, though.MyBurningEars said:
There was definitely a bit of this about - things that happened in the past will have shaped McCluskey's thought processes. But leave him looking rather ridiculous today.PlatoSaid said:Uncle Len's intv http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/22/intelligence-services-using-dark-practices-against-jeremy-corbyn
“We found out just a couple of years ago that the chair of my union then, the Transport and General Workers Union, was an MI5 informant at the time that there was a strike taking place that I personally as a worker was involved in. [In] 1972, I was on strike for six weeks. And 30 years later it comes out that the chair of my union at that time was an MI5 informant.”
Father of a friend of mine was an informant on union activity for an intelligence agency back in the 80s, FWIW.0 -
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She might not survive the weekend.Morris_Dancer said:Miss Plato, I was surprised the stabbing didn't make the evening news that day (BBC).
I wonder if Merkel's as guaranteed for re-election as people think.0 -
Allegedly might be more than 1 gunman and multiple deaths
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Munich: Reports now of second shooting at Stachus/Karlsplatz.0
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Reuters
BREAKING: Multiple people injured and killed in Munich shopping center shooting - German police
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SKY - Germany a big target for terrorism as they are so tolerant........
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Nonsense, nothing will change.tlg86 said:
She might not survive the weekend.Morris_Dancer said:Miss Plato, I was surprised the stabbing didn't make the evening news that day (BBC).
I wonder if Merkel's as guaranteed for re-election as people think.0 -
She's very likely to head the largest party/pact but there has to be a real risk that CDU/CSU-SDP-FDP end up sub-50%.Morris_Dancer said:Miss Plato, I was surprised the stabbing didn't make the evening news that day (BBC).
I wonder if Merkel's as guaranteed for re-election as people think.0 -
Social and various News Media outlets will be just getting in initial reports and reporting it as ‘real time’, - this will often conflict/contradict with those agencies reporting information more up to date. - That's a fingers crossed it is.PlatoSaid said:Reuters
BREAKING: Multiple people injured and killed in Munich shopping center shooting - German police0 -
2nd shooting at metro station allegedly0
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Mr. Herdson, cheers for that answer.0
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''Last five days - French mother and daughters stabbed, axe attack, RAF attempted kidnapping and now this.''
Europe is being run lunatics.
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I fear this is rather like early reports of major earthquakes that report two dead and some damage and we later discover a city has been flattened.0
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The vicious circle of our modern times:
https://twitter.com/NoughtPointFour/status/7565421275182202880