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imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » After another massive political 7 days in the UK & US it’s time to reflect with the latest PB/Polling Matters TV Show

The scale and pace of political events is simply breath-taking with PM May’s first PMQs, the LAB leadership race now down to two with campaigning just ratcheting up and, of course, the Republican Convention in Cleveland, Ohio.

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  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,629
    First!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,629
    Thanks for the second chance OGH :) Cheque is in the post!
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    FPT:

    21st March 2013. That's the earliest date when you can see comments on archived PB threads. I'm guessing that's when Vanilla replaced Disqus. Still, it's a pity you can't see comments before then, apart from perhaps on the WaybackMachine site.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    It's really odd but a new PM and the GOP Convention feels like a quiet week in 2016 politics.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    edited July 2016
    "Win or lose, (and it is very probably LOSE), the Tories need a culling of the poshos.

    NO. MORE. ETONIANS.

    Ever. The main reason they are likely to lose (despite being modestly competent) is because they are seen as the party of the privileged. So bad is this perception, they are likely to lose to to the Worst Labour Leader since Michael Foot.

    The next Tory leader has to be 1, working or lower middle class, and/or 2. a woman/ethnic minority. Better still, three out of four.

    And they need to repeat this for a generation. No more Etonians. EVAH.    "

    - SeanT, 6 May 2015

    Well Sean, it may be a year late but you've got your wish.
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    Why Labour deserve their problems:

    Flag Quote · Off Topic
    Tony_MTony_M Posts: 55
    May 2015
    Just bumped into one of my neighbours at the local Morrisons on Sheppey. Matt is an elderly Labour activist. He told me he'd been telling at one of the local polling stations.

    I enquired as to activity and he said voting had been brisk (I was told the same at the station I voted in). I enquired as to how it was going for his bloke and he just shrugged and said "ok". He then added they thought they may trail in 3rd behind the Tories and UKIP. Must admit I was surprised to hear that.

    As an aside I told him I dreaded the thought of a Miliband led government. His response; "he's just an ordinary, comprehensive schooled bloke, just like us". I clearly looked shocked, as he asked why I'd pulled the face. I explained I didn't think living in a £2M house was particularly ordinary. His respone; "you're talking rubbish, son".

    They clearly don't like facts in the Labour party....
  • Charlie_FalconerCharlie_Falconer Posts: 9
    Remember me?
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Is PB running it's own readership contest - which of the two new threads will win?!
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    edited July 2016
    Mr Pedley, try a more balanced panel, you are not the BBC :lol:
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    RobD said:

    First!

    Is it safe to come out now?
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    edited July 2016
    I see Melaina Trumps speech writer has admitted making a mistake and offered resignation which was refused.

    Sky news
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 63,862
    Keiran has caught the sun.
  • peter_from_putneypeter_from_putney Posts: 6,956
    nunu said:

    Why Labour deserve their problems:

    Flag Quote · Off Topic
    Tony_MTony_M Posts: 55
    May 2015
    Just bumped into one of my neighbours at the local Morrisons on Sheppey. Matt is an elderly Labour activist. He told me he'd been telling at one of the local polling stations.

    I enquired as to activity and he said voting had been brisk (I was told the same at the station I voted in). I enquired as to how it was going for his bloke and he just shrugged and said "ok". He then added they thought they may trail in 3rd behind the Tories and UKIP. Must admit I was surprised to hear that.

    As an aside I told him I dreaded the thought of a Miliband led government. His response; "he's just an ordinary, comprehensive schooled bloke, just like us". I clearly looked shocked, as he asked why I'd pulled the face. I explained I didn't think living in a £2M house was particularly ordinary. His respone; "you're talking rubbish, son".

    They clearly don't like facts in the Labour party....

    Probably just as well you didn't get around to talking about the second kitchen!
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    Love this country. Lord Pannick informs us that Liz Truss is not the first female chancellor. Apparently Eleanor of Provence stepped in for Henry III in 1253. So much history.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    Moses_ said:

    I see Melaina Trumps speech writer has admitted making a mistake and offered resignation which was refused.

    Sky news

    Kind of blamed the current Mrs Trump though too.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Moses_ said:

    I see Melaina Trumps speech writer has admitted making a mistake and offered resignation which was refused.

    Sky news

    @steakhousegirl: Does Meredith McIver (Melania speechwriter) exist? She has a FB page with no friends that was created today. https://t.co/DS9SIIPUwY
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    Sun headline: The mummy returns?
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    Scott_P said:

    Moses_ said:

    I see Melaina Trumps speech writer has admitted making a mistake and offered resignation which was refused.

    Sky news

    @steakhousegirl: Does Meredith McIver (Melania speechwriter) exist? She has a FB page with no friends that was created today. https://t.co/DS9SIIPUwY
    So as well as making things up Trump is making people up now?
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Egret Wilders on Sky

    "If you follow our laws you are welcome but if you practise Sharia then you are not welcome in a free society ."

    He also says he had a chat in a burger joint and stated he would not give the name of the company but said that the lady that gave me the Big Mac told me this ...... :lol:
  • peter_from_putneypeter_from_putney Posts: 6,956
    SimonStClare said:

    Mr Pedley, try a more balanced panel, you are not the BBC :lol:

    I guess it's Pedley's (and Mike's?) TV show so they can have on whoever they like as guests. That said if it's packed with lefties every week, it's likely to wither on the vine before very long.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    PlatoSaid said:

    Is PB running it's own readership contest - which of the two new threads will win?!

    What was the last new thread about ?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,629
    Speedy said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Is PB running it's own readership contest - which of the two new threads will win?!

    What was the last new thread about ?
    Nothing to see here.. move along :D
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,000
    John_M said:

    Love this country. Lord Pannick informs us that Liz Truss is not the first female chancellor. Apparently Eleanor of Provence stepped in for Henry III in 1253. So much history.

    Excellent.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    edited July 2016
    Speedy said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Is PB running it's own readership contest - which of the two new threads will win?!

    What was the last new thread about ?
    Something to so with post redaction of information that had already been placed in the public domain
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,629
    DavidL said:

    John_M said:

    Love this country. Lord Pannick informs us that Liz Truss is not the first female chancellor. Apparently Eleanor of Provence stepped in for Henry III in 1253. So much history.

    Excellent.
    Someone needs to update wikipedia....
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    Uh oh. Erdogan "There might be other countries involved in Friday's attempted coup".
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,022
    That's Sir Lynton Crosby to you. Seriously Labour are fecked if this what their ex MPs are coming out with?

    https://twitter.com/nedsimons/status/755845502097321984
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 56,000
    ToryJim said:

    Scott_P said:

    Moses_ said:

    I see Melaina Trumps speech writer has admitted making a mistake and offered resignation which was refused.

    Sky news

    @steakhousegirl: Does Meredith McIver (Melania speechwriter) exist? She has a FB page with no friends that was created today. https://t.co/DS9SIIPUwY
    So as well as making things up Trump is making people up now?
    Bit like Labour membership really. Seem to recall that some of them were cats and dogs the last time (which in fairness probably helped the average IQ).
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,314
    John_M said:

    Uh oh. Erdogan "There might be other countries involved in Friday's attempted coup".

    Asked about Kerry's warning that Turkish membership of NATO could be under threat, Erdogan says "NATO has made it very clear it is with us."

    I don't think so matey.
  • peter_from_putneypeter_from_putney Posts: 6,956
    TheWhiteRabbit said:

    "Win or lose, (and it is very probably LOSE), the Tories need a culling of the poshos.

    NO. MORE. ETONIANS.

    Ever. The main reason they are likely to lose (despite being modestly competent) is because they are seen as the party of the privileged. So bad is this perception, they are likely to lose to to the Worst Labour Leader since Michael Foot.

    The next Tory leader has to be 1, working or lower middle class, and/or 2. a woman/ethnic minority. Better still, three out of four.

    And they need to repeat this for a generation. No more Etonians. EVAH.    "

    - SeanT, 6 May 2015

    Well Sean, it may be a year late but you've got your wish.

    (Leaving aside Boris of course).
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,232
    John_M said:

    Uh oh. Erdogan "There might be other countries involved in Friday's attempted coup".

    Of course. Hell, maybe he's right, although I imagine its irrelevant as far as he's concerned.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,232
    Speedy said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Is PB running it's own readership contest - which of the two new threads will win?!

    What was the last new thread about ?
    How Corbyn was doing even worse than Ed M at this stage.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,455
    RobD said:

    DavidL said:

    John_M said:

    Love this country. Lord Pannick informs us that Liz Truss is not the first female chancellor. Apparently Eleanor of Provence stepped in for Henry III in 1253. So much history.

    Excellent.
    Someone needs to update wikipedia....
    Interestingly she was very much "Lady Chancellor" not "Lord Chancellor"...
  • HaroldOHaroldO Posts: 1,185
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    That's Sir Lynton Crosby to you. Seriously Labour are fecked if this what their ex MPs are coming out with?

    https://twitter.com/nedsimons/status/755845502097321984

    Do they say "Hail Hydra!" when they meet up?
  • BigIanBigIan Posts: 198
    Speedy said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Is PB running it's own readership contest - which of the two new threads will win?!

    What was the last new thread about ?
    https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/755844322025549824
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited July 2016
    Moses_ said:

    Speedy said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Is PB running it's own readership contest - which of the two new threads will win?!

    What was the last new thread about ?
    Something to so with post redaction of information that had already been placed in the public domain
    Found it.
    http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/07/20/how-lab-under-corbyn-is-doing-compared-with-ed-miliband-at-this-same-stage/

    From the title it doesn't appear to be that controversial, why it was deleted ?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,232
    ToryJim said:

    Scott_P said:

    Moses_ said:

    I see Melaina Trumps speech writer has admitted making a mistake and offered resignation which was refused.

    Sky news

    @steakhousegirl: Does Meredith McIver (Melania speechwriter) exist? She has a FB page with no friends that was created today. https://t.co/DS9SIIPUwY
    So as well as making things up Trump is making people up now?
    Not the first time - wasn't there that odd episode where 10 years ago or so he'd pretended to be his own spokesperson over the phone to people, and there were recordings of him talking about himself?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,314
    ToryJim said:

    Scott_P said:

    Moses_ said:

    I see Melaina Trumps speech writer has admitted making a mistake and offered resignation which was refused.

    Sky news

    @steakhousegirl: Does Meredith McIver (Melania speechwriter) exist? She has a FB page with no friends that was created today. https://t.co/DS9SIIPUwY
    So as well as making things up Trump is making people up now?
    There was a bizarre revelation during the primary campaign that Trump used to pose as his own fictional PR guy. One of the magazines still had audio from a 90s interview in which Trump, as the PR guy, spoke at length about his relationship with Carla Bruni.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,022
    Speedy said:

    Moses_ said:

    Speedy said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Is PB running it's own readership contest - which of the two new threads will win?!

    What was the last new thread about ?
    Something to so with post redaction of information that had already been placed in the public domain
    Found it.
    http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/07/20/how-lab-under-corbyn-is-doing-compared-with-ed-miliband-at-this-same-stage/

    From the title it doesn't appear to be that controversial, why was it deleted ?
    Because Mike wanted to give priority to the TV show
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,629
    Speedy said:

    Moses_ said:

    Speedy said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Is PB running it's own readership contest - which of the two new threads will win?!

    What was the last new thread about ?
    Something to so with post redaction of information that had already been placed in the public domain
    Found it.
    http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/07/20/how-lab-under-corbyn-is-doing-compared-with-ed-miliband-at-this-same-stage/

    From the title it doesn't appear to be that controversial, why was it deleted ?
    Sometimes the order in which things get posted change, although in this case I suspect the scheduled podcast post was forgotten about.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,838
    AndyJS said:

    FPT:

    21st March 2013. That's the earliest date when you can see comments on archived PB threads. I'm guessing that's when Vanilla replaced Disqus. Still, it's a pity you can't see comments before then, apart from perhaps on the WaybackMachine site.

    Ahhh yes, I was in a Starbucks in Seattle, and the PB mob was howling for Disqus to be replaced (as it had just implemented compulsory threading).

    I made the change and all was well. And made my next meeting :)

    The old comments are actually in the Wordpress database. If I didn't have a very serious job, and a lack of 20 hours to do the work, I'd write a little web app to allow old browsing of comments...

    Hmmm...
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,838
    Scott_P said:

    Moses_ said:

    I see Melaina Trumps speech writer has admitted making a mistake and offered resignation which was refused.

    Sky news

    @steakhousegirl: Does Meredith McIver (Melania speechwriter) exist? She has a FB page with no friends that was created today. https://t.co/DS9SIIPUwY
    That would be hilarious. And entirely believable. Blame a non-existent speech writer.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,629
    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    FPT:

    21st March 2013. That's the earliest date when you can see comments on archived PB threads. I'm guessing that's when Vanilla replaced Disqus. Still, it's a pity you can't see comments before then, apart from perhaps on the WaybackMachine site.

    Ahhh yes, I was in a Starbucks in Seattle, and the PB mob was howling for Disqus to be replaced (as it had just implemented compulsory threading).

    I made the change and all was well. And made my next meeting :)

    The old comments are actually in the Wordpress database. If I didn't have a very serious job, and a lack of 20 hours to do the work, I'd write a little web app to allow old browsing of comments...

    Hmmm...
    I remember the brief period when we had nested comments. Disgusting.

    Although quite possible I'm misremembering using Disqus on other sites.
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,487
    Turns out it's very easy to get onto the air on LBC. I feel a new addiction coming on!

    New quest, use the phrase 'Vapid Bilge' on radio
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,838
    I think Meredith does exist: see http://time.com/4415378/meredith-mciver-donald-trump-speech/
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,022
    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    FPT:

    21st March 2013. That's the earliest date when you can see comments on archived PB threads. I'm guessing that's when Vanilla replaced Disqus. Still, it's a pity you can't see comments before then, apart from perhaps on the WaybackMachine site.

    Ahhh yes, I was in a Starbucks in Seattle, and the PB mob was howling for Disqus to be replaced (as it had just implemented compulsory threading).

    I made the change and all was well. And made my next meeting :)

    The old comments are actually in the Wordpress database. If I didn't have a very serious job, and a lack of 20 hours to do the work, I'd write a little web app to allow old browsing of comments...

    Hmmm...
    I remember the brief period when we had nested comments. Disgusting.

    Although quite possible I'm misremembering using Disqus on other sites.
    It was nesting here. I think Disqus gave Mike 5 days notice that we were switching to nested comments.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,022
    Another enjoyable TV show, did like the idea that a prospect of an early general election might focus the minds of Labour members and work to the benefit of Owen Smith
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,629
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    FPT:

    21st March 2013. That's the earliest date when you can see comments on archived PB threads. I'm guessing that's when Vanilla replaced Disqus. Still, it's a pity you can't see comments before then, apart from perhaps on the WaybackMachine site.

    Ahhh yes, I was in a Starbucks in Seattle, and the PB mob was howling for Disqus to be replaced (as it had just implemented compulsory threading).

    I made the change and all was well. And made my next meeting :)

    The old comments are actually in the Wordpress database. If I didn't have a very serious job, and a lack of 20 hours to do the work, I'd write a little web app to allow old browsing of comments...

    Hmmm...
    I remember the brief period when we had nested comments. Disgusting.

    Although quite possible I'm misremembering using Disqus on other sites.
    It was nesting here. I think Disqus gave Mike 5 days notice that we were switching to nested comments.
    He should have got Cameron to raise an urgent question in Parliament! :p
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,487
    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    FPT:

    21st March 2013. That's the earliest date when you can see comments on archived PB threads. I'm guessing that's when Vanilla replaced Disqus. Still, it's a pity you can't see comments before then, apart from perhaps on the WaybackMachine site.

    Ahhh yes, I was in a Starbucks in Seattle, and the PB mob was howling for Disqus to be replaced (as it had just implemented compulsory threading).

    I made the change and all was well. And made my next meeting :)

    The old comments are actually in the Wordpress database. If I didn't have a very serious job, and a lack of 20 hours to do the work, I'd write a little web app to allow old browsing of comments...

    Hmmm...
    I remember the brief period when we had nested comments. Disgusting.

    Although quite possible I'm misremembering using Disqus on other sites.
    I think that did happen briefly.
    The demise of the site was predicted many times but we made it through to the beautiful sunny uplands of Vanilla
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,022
    RobD said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    FPT:

    21st March 2013. That's the earliest date when you can see comments on archived PB threads. I'm guessing that's when Vanilla replaced Disqus. Still, it's a pity you can't see comments before then, apart from perhaps on the WaybackMachine site.

    Ahhh yes, I was in a Starbucks in Seattle, and the PB mob was howling for Disqus to be replaced (as it had just implemented compulsory threading).

    I made the change and all was well. And made my next meeting :)

    The old comments are actually in the Wordpress database. If I didn't have a very serious job, and a lack of 20 hours to do the work, I'd write a little web app to allow old browsing of comments...

    Hmmm...
    I remember the brief period when we had nested comments. Disgusting.

    Although quite possible I'm misremembering using Disqus on other sites.
    It was nesting here. I think Disqus gave Mike 5 days notice that we were switching to nested comments.
    He should have got Cameron to raise an urgent question in Parliament! :p
    They said it would be an improvement
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,629
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RobD said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    FPT:

    21st March 2013. That's the earliest date when you can see comments on archived PB threads. I'm guessing that's when Vanilla replaced Disqus. Still, it's a pity you can't see comments before then, apart from perhaps on the WaybackMachine site.

    Ahhh yes, I was in a Starbucks in Seattle, and the PB mob was howling for Disqus to be replaced (as it had just implemented compulsory threading).

    I made the change and all was well. And made my next meeting :)

    The old comments are actually in the Wordpress database. If I didn't have a very serious job, and a lack of 20 hours to do the work, I'd write a little web app to allow old browsing of comments...

    Hmmm...
    I remember the brief period when we had nested comments. Disgusting.

    Although quite possible I'm misremembering using Disqus on other sites.
    It was nesting here. I think Disqus gave Mike 5 days notice that we were switching to nested comments.
    He should have got Cameron to raise an urgent question in Parliament! :p
    They said it would be an improvement
    Pshaw!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,232
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RobD said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    FPT:

    21st March 2013. That's the earliest date when you can see comments on archived PB threads. I'm guessing that's when Vanilla replaced Disqus. Still, it's a pity you can't see comments before then, apart from perhaps on the WaybackMachine site.

    Ahhh yes, I was in a Starbucks in Seattle, and the PB mob was howling for Disqus to be replaced (as it had just implemented compulsory threading).

    I made the change and all was well. And made my next meeting :)

    The old comments are actually in the Wordpress database. If I didn't have a very serious job, and a lack of 20 hours to do the work, I'd write a little web app to allow old browsing of comments...

    Hmmm...
    I remember the brief period when we had nested comments. Disgusting.

    Although quite possible I'm misremembering using Disqus on other sites.
    It was nesting here. I think Disqus gave Mike 5 days notice that we were switching to nested comments.
    He should have got Cameron to raise an urgent question in Parliament! :p
    They said it would be an improvement
    Nesting comments an improvement?! The insanity of it.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    That's Sir Lynton Crosby to you. Seriously Labour are fecked if this what their ex MPs are coming out with?

    https://twitter.com/nedsimons/status/755845502097321984

    Wow, is he for real?
  • MTimTMTimT Posts: 7,034
    BigIan said:

    Speedy said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Is PB running it's own readership contest - which of the two new threads will win?!

    What was the last new thread about ?
    https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/755844322025549824
    LOL. How does swingback work when an opposition party does worse as the parliamentary term goes on? :)
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @realDonaldTrump: Good news is Melania's speech got more publicity than any in the history of politics especially if you believe that all press is good press!

    @StigAbell: "History of politics" includes...
    MLK: I had a dream.
    Lincoln: Gettysburg Address.
    JFK: Ask not what your country. https://t.co/lPsvlIdbSr
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,314
    ToryJim said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    That's Sir Lynton Crosby to you. Seriously Labour are fecked if this what their ex MPs are coming out with?

    https://twitter.com/nedsimons/status/755845502097321984

    Wow, is he for real?
    It's slightly more rational than calling it a Jewish conspiracy.
  • ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    RobD said:

    Speedy said:

    Moses_ said:

    Speedy said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Is PB running it's own readership contest - which of the two new threads will win?!

    What was the last new thread about ?
    Something to so with post redaction of information that had already been placed in the public domain
    Found it.
    http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/07/20/how-lab-under-corbyn-is-doing-compared-with-ed-miliband-at-this-same-stage/

    From the title it doesn't appear to be that controversial, why was it deleted ?
    Sometimes the order in which things get posted change, although in this case I suspect the scheduled podcast post was forgotten about.
    That's happened before, usually the disappearing thread gets reactivated later.

    Assuming nothing major happens in the meantime...!
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    kle4 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RobD said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    FPT:

    21st March 2013. That's the earliest date when you can see comments on archived PB threads. I'm guessing that's when Vanilla replaced Disqus. Still, it's a pity you can't see comments before then, apart from perhaps on the WaybackMachine site.

    Ahhh yes, I was in a Starbucks in Seattle, and the PB mob was howling for Disqus to be replaced (as it had just implemented compulsory threading).

    I made the change and all was well. And made my next meeting :)

    The old comments are actually in the Wordpress database. If I didn't have a very serious job, and a lack of 20 hours to do the work, I'd write a little web app to allow old browsing of comments...

    Hmmm...
    I remember the brief period when we had nested comments. Disgusting.

    Although quite possible I'm misremembering using Disqus on other sites.
    It was nesting here. I think Disqus gave Mike 5 days notice that we were switching to nested comments.
    He should have got Cameron to raise an urgent question in Parliament! :p
    They said it would be an improvement
    Nesting comments an improvement?! The insanity of it.
    A few months ago a change was made to the site and after looking back more than on page I get all nested comments. Really hard to read.
    Never been able to solve it despite help from other PBers
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,265
    ToryJim said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    That's Sir Lynton Crosby to you. Seriously Labour are fecked if this what their ex MPs are coming out with?

    https://twitter.com/nedsimons/status/755845502097321984

    Wow, is he for real?
    Well if he was right it'd somehow top everything else that has happened this year. But since he isn't, that's just amazing, he's properly lost any grip on reality.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,022
    kle4 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RobD said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    FPT:

    21st March 2013. That's the earliest date when you can see comments on archived PB threads. I'm guessing that's when Vanilla replaced Disqus. Still, it's a pity you can't see comments before then, apart from perhaps on the WaybackMachine site.

    Ahhh yes, I was in a Starbucks in Seattle, and the PB mob was howling for Disqus to be replaced (as it had just implemented compulsory threading).

    I made the change and all was well. And made my next meeting :)

    The old comments are actually in the Wordpress database. If I didn't have a very serious job, and a lack of 20 hours to do the work, I'd write a little web app to allow old browsing of comments...

    Hmmm...
    I remember the brief period when we had nested comments. Disgusting.

    Although quite possible I'm misremembering using Disqus on other sites.
    It was nesting here. I think Disqus gave Mike 5 days notice that we were switching to nested comments.
    He should have got Cameron to raise an urgent question in Parliament! :p
    They said it would be an improvement
    Nesting comments an improvement?! The insanity of it.
    This is the opening part of the email they sent Mike

    Dear MikeSmithson,

    Just a reminder — your site will be updated to the newest version of Disqus on Wednesday, March 13th. You’re still using an older, less cool version of Disqus on your site, but don’t worry; the update is painless. It requires no work (or website changes) on your end. You can also adjust your community settings here.
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Moses_ said:

    kle4 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RobD said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    FPT:

    21st March 2013. That's the earliest date when you can see comments on archived PB threads. I'm guessing that's when Vanilla replaced Disqus. Still, it's a pity you can't see comments before then, apart from perhaps on the WaybackMachine site.

    Ahhh yes, I was in a Starbucks in Seattle, and the PB mob was howling for Disqus to be replaced (as it had just implemented compulsory threading).

    I made the change and all was well. And made my next meeting :)

    The old comments are actually in the Wordpress database. If I didn't have a very serious job, and a lack of 20 hours to do the work, I'd write a little web app to allow old browsing of comments...

    Hmmm...
    I remember the brief period when we had nested comments. Disgusting.

    Although quite possible I'm misremembering using Disqus on other sites.
    It was nesting here. I think Disqus gave Mike 5 days notice that we were switching to nested comments.
    He should have got Cameron to raise an urgent question in Parliament! :p
    They said it would be an improvement
    Nesting comments an improvement?! The insanity of it.
    A few months ago a change was made to the site and after looking back more than on page I get all nested comments. Really hard to read.
    Never been able to solve it despite help from other PBers
    Ha! This comment just completely nested. Vanilla strikes back
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,232
    Scott_P said:

    @realDonaldTrump: Good news is Melania's speech got more publicity than any in the history of politics especially if you believe that all press is good press!

    @StigAbell: "History of politics" includes...
    MLK: I had a dream.
    Lincoln: Gettysburg Address.
    JFK: Ask not what your country. https://t.co/lPsvlIdbSr

    All of those got a lot less traffic on Twitter, so in one sense he might be right.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 28,667
    Fpt Merkel's mum was an English teacher...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 55,534
    BigIan said:

    Speedy said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    Is PB running it's own readership contest - which of the two new threads will win?!

    What was the last new thread about ?
    https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/755844322025549824
    So Corbybn the Infallible has lost a third of Miliband's vote.

    That is Ed Miliband. Of Ed-Stone fame. The man who couldn't even eat a bacon sandwich in public without ridicule.

    A third of Labour's voters have left compared to that Titan?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,232
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    kle4 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RobD said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    FPT:

    21st March 2013. That's the earliest date when you can see comments on archived PB threads. I'm guessing that's when Vanilla replaced Disqus. Still, it's a pity you can't see comments before then, apart from perhaps on the WaybackMachine site.

    Ahhh yes, I was in a Starbucks in Seattle, and the PB mob was howling for Disqus to be replaced (as it had just implemented compulsory threading).

    I made the change and all was well. And made my next meeting :)

    The old comments are actually in the Wordpress database. If I didn't have a very serious job, and a lack of 20 hours to do the work, I'd write a little web app to allow old browsing of comments...

    Hmmm...
    I remember the brief period when we had nested comments. Disgusting.

    Although quite possible I'm misremembering using Disqus on other sites.
    It was nesting here. I think Disqus gave Mike 5 days notice that we were switching to nested comments.
    He should have got Cameron to raise an urgent question in Parliament! :p
    They said it would be an improvement
    Nesting comments an improvement?! The insanity of it.
    This is the opening part of the email they sent Mike

    Dear MikeSmithson,

    Just a reminder — your site will be updated to the newest version of Disqus on Wednesday, March 13th. You’re still using an older, less cool version of Disqus on your site, but don’t worry; the update is painless. It requires no work (or website changes) on your end. You can also adjust your community settings here.
    older, less cool version

    Seriously? It's like some desperate attempt to sound hip.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,265
    williamglenn said:

    ToryJim said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    That's Sir Lynton Crosby to you. Seriously Labour are fecked if this what their ex MPs are coming out with?

    https://twitter.com/nedsimons/status/755845502097321984

    Wow, is he for real?
    It's slightly more rational than calling it a Jewish conspiracy.
    Maybe he didn't mention the Jews because he thought that their involvement goes without saying?
  • Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    John_M said:

    Uh oh. Erdogan "There might be other countries involved in Friday's attempted coup".

    Step forward Russia?
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,107
    The Elite simply don't understand Corbyn. He is reshaping politics. He represents the 99% and will win for them
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    williamglenn said:

    ToryJim said:

    Scott_P said:

    Moses_ said:

    I see Melaina Trumps speech writer has admitted making a mistake and offered resignation which was refused.

    Sky news

    @steakhousegirl: Does Meredith McIver (Melania speechwriter) exist? She has a FB page with no friends that was created today. https://t.co/DS9SIIPUwY
    So as well as making things up Trump is making people up now?
    There was a bizarre revelation during the primary campaign that Trump used to pose as his own fictional PR guy. One of the magazines still had audio from a 90s interview in which Trump, as the PR guy, spoke at length about his relationship with Carla Bruni.
    Trump actually leaked the audio himself to the Washington Post a few months ago.
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Britain targeted with more than 100 terror attacks in just ONE YEAR amid fears over rise in extremism across Europe

    Report from Europol reveals 103 UK attacks carried out or foiled last year
    Six member states reported 211 plots in total during 2015, with 151 killed
    Figures significantly up on 2014 according to the assessment

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3699533/Britain-targeted-100-terror-attacks-just-ONE-YEAR-amid-fears-rise-extremism-Europe.html#ixzz4EytYRYI8

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,232
    Jonathan said:

    The Elite simply don't understand Corbyn. He is reshaping politics. He represents the 99% and will win for them

    'Represents', not 'will be supported by' the 99%. Twas ever thus.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,022
    kle4 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    kle4 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RobD said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    RobD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    FPT:

    21st March 2013. That's the earliest date when you can see comments on archived PB threads. I'm guessing that's when Vanilla replaced Disqus. Still, it's a pity you can't see comments before then, apart from perhaps on the WaybackMachine site.

    Ahhh yes, I was in a Starbucks in Seattle, and the PB mob was howling for Disqus to be replaced (as it had just implemented compulsory threading).

    I made the change and all was well. And made my next meeting :)

    The old comments are actually in the Wordpress database. If I didn't have a very serious job, and a lack of 20 hours to do the work, I'd write a little web app to allow old browsing of comments...

    Hmmm...
    I remember the brief period when we had nested comments. Disgusting.

    Although quite possible I'm misremembering using Disqus on other sites.
    It was nesting here. I think Disqus gave Mike 5 days notice that we were switching to nested comments.
    He should have got Cameron to raise an urgent question in Parliament! :p
    They said it would be an improvement
    Nesting comments an improvement?! The insanity of it.
    This is the opening part of the email they sent Mike

    Dear MikeSmithson,

    Just a reminder — your site will be updated to the newest version of Disqus on Wednesday, March 13th. You’re still using an older, less cool version of Disqus on your site, but don’t worry; the update is painless. It requires no work (or website changes) on your end. You can also adjust your community settings here.
    older, less cool version

    Seriously? It's like some desperate attempt to sound hip.
    Genuine
  • runnymederunnymede Posts: 2,536
    Chameleon said:

    williamglenn said:

    ToryJim said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    That's Sir Lynton Crosby to you. Seriously Labour are fecked if this what their ex MPs are coming out with?

    https://twitter.com/nedsimons/status/755845502097321984

    Wow, is he for real?
    It's slightly more rational than calling it a Jewish conspiracy.
    Maybe he didn't mention the Jews because he thought that their involvement goes without saying?
    wibble
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    Scott_P said:

    @realDonaldTrump: Good news is Melania's speech got more publicity than any in the history of politics especially if you believe that all press is good press!

    @StigAbell: "History of politics" includes...
    MLK: I had a dream.
    Lincoln: Gettysburg Address.
    JFK: Ask not what your country. https://t.co/lPsvlIdbSr

    Pericles funeral oration probably part of the history of politics. Cicero's epic denunciation of Cataline too. That's before we even get out of classical history!
  • Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    Freggles said:

    Turns out it's very easy to get onto the air on LBC. I feel a new addiction coming on!

    New quest, use the phrase 'Vapid Bilge' on radio

    I once managed to get an email in which I waxed lyrical about the perils of International Trottofascism read out on the BBC three counties breakfast show....
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 56,314
    ToryJim said:

    Scott_P said:

    @realDonaldTrump: Good news is Melania's speech got more publicity than any in the history of politics especially if you believe that all press is good press!

    @StigAbell: "History of politics" includes...
    MLK: I had a dream.
    Lincoln: Gettysburg Address.
    JFK: Ask not what your country. https://t.co/lPsvlIdbSr

    Pericles funeral oration probably part of the history of politics. Cicero's epic denunciation of Cataline too. That's before we even get out of classical history!
    To be fair I would infer that he's only talking about speeches by presumptive First Ladies.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @thhamilton: Why did former Labour MP Chris Williamson lose his seat in 2015? Let's ask him! https://t.co/yucLsoRNdy
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 99,232
    Scott_P said:

    @thhamilton: Why did former Labour MP Chris Williamson lose his seat in 2015? Let's ask him! https://t.co/yucLsoRNdy

    What does he mean when he says opinion polls cost him his seat? I genuinely don't get it.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 60,838
    edited July 2016
    Jonathan said:

    The Elite simply don't understand Corbyn. He is reshaping politics. He represents the 99% and will win for them

    I think it's the .99%
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    John_M said:

    Uh oh. Erdogan "There might be other countries involved in Friday's attempted coup".

    Step forward Russia?
    I think he referred to america, whose military base the coup plotters used and where Gulen is living.

    There is plenty of material for Erdogan to accuse the americans, and members of his government have already accused the USA.

    But as time passes the more I believe that Erdogan staged the coup himself.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    williamglenn said:

    ToryJim said:

    Scott_P said:

    @realDonaldTrump: Good news is Melania's speech got more publicity than any in the history of politics especially if you believe that all press is good press!

    @StigAbell: "History of politics" includes...
    MLK: I had a dream.
    Lincoln: Gettysburg Address.
    JFK: Ask not what your country. https://t.co/lPsvlIdbSr

    Pericles funeral oration probably part of the history of politics. Cicero's epic denunciation of Cataline too. That's before we even get out of classical history!
    To be fair I would infer that he's only talking about speeches by presumptive First Ladies.
    Next week the auditioning first spouse will probably do a damn sight better job.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    My current US Presidential Book
    Trump: 0
    Johnson: 1250
    The Field: 20
  • PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    Freggles said:

    Turns out it's very easy to get onto the air on LBC. I feel a new addiction coming on!

    New quest, use the phrase 'Vapid Bilge' on radio

    I once managed to get an email in which I waxed lyrical about the perils of International Trottofascism read out on the BBC three counties breakfast show....
    :lol:
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    Jonathan said:

    The Elite simply don't understand Corbyn. He is reshaping politics. He represents the 99% and will win for them

    Definetly satire......
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,265
    Speedy said:

    Paul_Bedfordshire said:

    John_M said:

    Uh oh. Erdogan "There might be other countries involved in Friday's attempted coup".

    Step forward Russia?
    I think he referred to america, whose military base the coup plotters used and where Gulen is living.

    There is plenty of material for Erdogan to accuse the americans, and members of his government have already accused the USA.

    But as time passes the more I believe that Erdogan staged the coup himself.
    I believe that the plot was genuine, but he pushed it into happening before it was ready.
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    kle4 said:

    Scott_P said:

    @thhamilton: Why did former Labour MP Chris Williamson lose his seat in 2015? Let's ask him! https://t.co/yucLsoRNdy

    What does he mean when he says opinion polls cost him his seat? I genuinely don't get it.
    He'd have been elected if it wasn't for those pesky kids. I think it's called 'flailing around and trying to pin the blame on everyone else'. Presumably the polls were inaccurate which meant his supporters carried on watching Corrie instead of voting.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    kle4 said:

    What does he mean when he says opinion polls cost him his seat? I genuinely don't get it.

    I am not sure he does either
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 86,197
    edited July 2016
    Re latest show.... disgraceful not a suit & tie in sight!

    My mother would say, “Put on a proper suit, do up your tie, and sing the national anthem!”
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    Was on a flight today. How did PMQs go?
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    kle4 said:

    Scott_P said:

    @thhamilton: Why did former Labour MP Chris Williamson lose his seat in 2015? Let's ask him! https://t.co/yucLsoRNdy

    What does he mean when he says opinion polls cost him his seat? I genuinely don't get it.
    I suspect he's trying to say that if the polls had shown the election closer people would have been more inclined to vote for him. It's the point of a sore loser in essence.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,022
    edited July 2016
    kle4 said:

    Scott_P said:

    @thhamilton: Why did former Labour MP Chris Williamson lose his seat in 2015? Let's ask him! https://t.co/yucLsoRNdy

    What does he mean when he says opinion polls cost him his seat? I genuinely don't get it.
    He believed if the polls had accurately shown the Tories on course for a majority, then the soft left like the Greens would have voted for him to stop the Tories.

    IIRC he lost by 40 odd votes whilst the Greens polled over 1,600 votes
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    Charles said:

    Was on a flight today. How did PMQs go?

    May crushed Corbyn like a bug.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    kle4 said:

    Scott_P said:

    @realDonaldTrump: Good news is Melania's speech got more publicity than any in the history of politics especially if you believe that all press is good press!

    @StigAbell: "History of politics" includes...
    MLK: I had a dream.
    Lincoln: Gettysburg Address.
    JFK: Ask not what your country. https://t.co/lPsvlIdbSr

    All of those got a lot less traffic on Twitter, so in one sense he might be right.
    Well Trump accounts for 1/5 to 1/4 of all Twitter traffic since he announced his candidacy a year ago.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,265
    ToryJim said:

    kle4 said:

    Scott_P said:

    @thhamilton: Why did former Labour MP Chris Williamson lose his seat in 2015? Let's ask him! https://t.co/yucLsoRNdy

    What does he mean when he says opinion polls cost him his seat? I genuinely don't get it.
    I suspect he's trying to say that if the polls had shown the election closer people would have been more inclined to vote for him. It's the point of a sore loser in essence.
    By what he's saying about Crosby's sleepers, its probably best that he got the boot.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    Charles said:

    Was on a flight today. How did PMQs go?

    Saint Theresa vanquished the diabolical Corbyn.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 123,022
    Charles said:

    Was on a flight today. How did PMQs go?

    It was a tribute to the battle of Zama, with Theresa May playing the role of Scipio Africanus and Jeremy Corbyn playing the role of Hannibal
  • CornishBlueCornishBlue Posts: 840
    rcs1000 said:

    Jonathan said:

    The Elite simply don't understand Corbyn. He is reshaping politics. He represents the 99% and will win for them

    I think it's the .99%
    If that.
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    This is fun.

    May: Hulk, Corbyn: puny human.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,193
    Chameleon said:

    ToryJim said:

    kle4 said:

    Scott_P said:

    @thhamilton: Why did former Labour MP Chris Williamson lose his seat in 2015? Let's ask him! https://t.co/yucLsoRNdy

    What does he mean when he says opinion polls cost him his seat? I genuinely don't get it.
    I suspect he's trying to say that if the polls had shown the election closer people would have been more inclined to vote for him. It's the point of a sore loser in essence.
    By what he's saying about Crosby's sleepers, its probably best that he got the boot.
    Oh doubtless
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Charles said:

    Was on a flight today. How did PMQs go?

    @edcumming: If you enjoyed that scene in Jurassic Park where the cow is lowered into the velociraptor enclosure, you will enjoy the next few PMQ's
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